RE: CS>First Batch of CS
Hi Chris,
I'd better establish first that I am not criticising those bells and whistle
units, just my choice not to use one. I get into trouble quite easily
regarding my personal viewpoints on here . I had considered having a go at
making one of those, but decided not to.
I can't recommend any particular unit cos I make my own units {not for sale
though, just for family members} and I include a small resistor to
limit/control current. When I walk away from my setup I take a timer with me
so when it goes off at the 30 minute mark I am straight back to the setup to
clean the electrodes and swap them over manually to maintain even wear on both
electrodes.
When brewing ANY volume over 250-300ml { a drinking glass} I ALWAYS use my home
made magnetic stirrer. A form of stirring method is of utmost importance to me
for any volume over and above that amount, and I will ONLY use a magnetic
stirrer, not a bubbler or whatever else people use, that's just my personal and
preferred choice of stirring method {possible introduction of contaminants into
the solution from the atmosphere, besides, I'm either making toast or smoking
while in production }.
Time is dependant on several things so that is not a major concern, however,
I'm not prepared to wait that long, but again, that's personal preference.
I usually produce just over 1 litre to 1200ml {believe that's around 33.8 US
ounces or more} at a time and it takes around 1 1/2 to 2 hours using either a 4
electrode setup or a two loop electrode setup. My solution can sometimes turn
yellow after being in storage for a time, but that doesn't phase me...*AT ALL*.
The thing I place most importance on is visual observation of solution over
days/weeks or months whilst in storage and NEVER detecting anything laying on
the bottom of the storage vessel, or floating on the water surface, or anything
else doing water aerobics in the solution.
I just wipe my storage vessel out with paper towel and it's good to go for the
next brew. Occasionally I THINK I can see a minute discolouration on paper
towel, can't be precise about that cos it's so minimal that it could be just
silver which has collected on any impurities like fibres or something which had
been present in the DW from manufacture, or has fell in from the atmosphere
whilst brewing and the weight has pulled it to the bottom {vessel is not sealed
while brewing}. I don't consider this as coming from the production process
itself, more it's silver ions collected among those fine fibres or whatever.
Whatever it is, it's hardly distinguishable which is different from what others
say about decanting or leaving it behind in the vessel, I *never* get that.
The time frame you refer to is probly quite normal, it just doesn't suit me
that's all.
Remember, anything I say is my personal opinion only {not advice} when it comes
to EIS production . Everybody to their own with regard to this subject.
There are folk here who are far more savvy about this game than me. I do
things my own way from MUCH published material I have studied over the
years...Not forgetting, that includes some information from those who are very
savvy here I hasten to add .
N.
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:08:26 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS
From: ch...@saucyenterprizes.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Hi Neville,
Being new to CS making, I am detecting that I have purchased a a “bells and
whistles” machine. What type of machine do you recommend, or build yourself? I
am fine staying with the production and cleaning the electrodes. My first batch
took far longer than I thought it would, and I was watching it until I went to
sleep. When I awoke a few hours later the batch was done.
How long should a batch take? I am making mine in a squared off 24oz Ball
canning jar.
Thanks for the continued advice,
CT
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Hi Jaxi,
This was my thinking exactly, but was just wanting to hear other
experiences. I am not afraid of any of the flakey top-floaters. I agree,
that in the process of cleaning the electrodes you actually introduce more
sludge into the water in removing the rods. I am using a 24oz jar of
distilled water (via H20Labs [ http://www.h2olabs.com/ ]) and it does take a
long time. I am making my second batch now and I am being more diligent
cleaning the electrodes more often.
Thanks for your response,
CT
> The purer your starting water and the more water in the container the longer
> it takes. I do a quart at a time with distilled water and it typically takes
> more than 12 hrs and less than 18 hrs on polarity switching auto shut off. I
> don't watch it. I don't pull it out mid cycle and wipe off the silver rods -
> which is more likely to introduce contaminants into the process in my
> opinion. Some people "prime the pump" so to speak by putting some of their
> last batch into the jar so that it will process faster - your choice.
>
> Yes, a little bit of the stuff that builds on the silver rods (I forget the
> technical name) will escape into the EIS, but at least for me it is really a
> tiny amount. And it will also settle to the bottom of the container so if you
> don't want to drink it, don't - use that for topical or other application.
> Personally I am just not that worried about that stuff, I have a hard time
> believing it will harm me in any way if I swallow some of it. But if you are
> bothered by it just run your finished product through a coffee filter.
>
> Peace,
>
> Jaxi
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM, CT wrote:
>> Hi Neville,
>>
>> Being new to CS making, I am detecting that I have purchased a a ³bells and
>> whistles² machine. What type of machine do you recommend, or build yourself?
>> I am fine staying with the production and cleaning the electrodes. My first
>> batch took far longer than I thought it would, and I was watching it until I
>> went to sleep. When I awoke a few hours later the batch was done.
>>
>> How long should a batch take? I am making mine in a squared off 24oz Ball
>> canning jar.
>>
>> Thanks for the continued advice,
>> CT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I take 30ml {1 ounce I believe} every morning before breakfast when the
>>> mouth is driest, been doing this for several years. If I feel some issue
>>> coming on, like cold or flu or whatever, I up that dose to a 250ml glass {8
>>> ounces I believe}, and I may do that for a couple of days.
>>>
>>> And I'd be removing those electrodes every 30 minutes to clean them, if you
>>> think they need cleaning or not, regardless if the unit has auto shutoff or
>>> polarity reversal or whatever. Mid cycle over 6 hours is nowhere near good
>>> enough for me [opinion].
>>>
>>> All that polarity reversal will do is blow any stuff off the electrode
>>> straight back into the water, hence decanting or skimming or whatever will
>>> be required to clean the solution up. Between the time frames for polarity
>>> reversal there WILL be some buildup on the electrode {no matter how minute
>>> that buildup may be}, and after continual polarity reversal over a given
>>> time frame that buildup blown off the electrode at each time frame will
>>> accumulate and end up in the solution, hence the need for decanting or
>>> whatever.
>>>
>>> Some things just don't work satisfactorily for my liking, diligence and
>>> attention to the production process means more to me than 'setting and
>>> forgetting'. If I was on dialysis I'd have to remain in one place for the
>>> duration, can't set it up and then go shopping, or go to bed during the
>>> process.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I got nothing against those units with the bells and whistles
>>> by the way, that's personal choice...but I won't own or use one, for the
>>> reasons you quoted.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:26:29 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS
>>> From: ch...@saucyenterprizes.com <http://ch...@saucyenterprizes.com>
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <http://silver-list@eskimo.com>
>>>
>>> Re: CS>First Batch of CS Thanks for the response Asif,
>>>
>>> I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think,
>>> all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first ³swallow²
>>> this morning. I took about 1/
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
The purer your starting water and the more water in the container the
longer it takes. I do a quart at a time with distilled water and it
typically takes more than 12 hrs and less than 18 hrs on polarity switching
auto shut off. I don't watch it. I don't pull it out mid cycle and wipe
off the silver rods - which is more likely to introduce contaminants into
the process in my opinion. Some people "prime the pump" so to speak by
putting some of their last batch into the jar so that it will process
faster - your choice.
Yes, a little bit of the stuff that builds on the silver rods (I forget the
technical name) will escape into the EIS, but at least for me it is really
a tiny amount. And it will also settle to the bottom of the container so
if you don't want to drink it, don't - use that for topical or other
application. Personally I am just not that worried about that stuff, I
have a hard time believing it will harm me in any way if I swallow some of
it. But if you are bothered by it just run your finished product through a
coffee filter.
Peace,
Jaxi
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM, CT wrote:
> Hi Neville,
>
> Being new to CS making, I am detecting that I have purchased a a “bells
> and whistles” machine. What type of machine do you recommend, or build
> yourself? I am fine staying with the production and cleaning the
> electrodes. My first batch took far longer than I thought it would, and I
> was watching it until I went to sleep. When I awoke a few hours later the
> batch was done.
>
> How long should a batch take? I am making mine in a squared off 24oz Ball
> canning jar.
>
> Thanks for the continued advice,
> CT
>
>
>
>
> I take 30ml {1 ounce I believe} every morning before breakfast when the
> mouth is driest, been doing this for several years. If I feel some issue
> coming on, like cold or flu or whatever, I up that dose to a 250ml glass {8
> ounces I believe}, and I may do that for a couple of days.
>
> And I'd be removing those electrodes every 30 minutes to clean them, if
> you think they need cleaning or not, regardless if the unit has auto
> shutoff or polarity reversal or whatever. Mid cycle over 6 hours is
> nowhere near good enough for me [opinion].
>
> All that polarity reversal will do is blow any stuff off the electrode
> straight back into the water, hence decanting or skimming or whatever will
> be required to clean the solution up. Between the time frames for polarity
> reversal there WILL be some buildup on the electrode {no matter how minute
> that buildup may be}, and after continual polarity reversal over a given
> time frame that buildup blown off the electrode at each time frame will
> accumulate and end up in the solution, hence the need for decanting or
> whatever.
>
> Some things just don't work satisfactorily for my liking, diligence and
> attention to the production process means more to me than 'setting and
> forgetting'. If I was on dialysis I'd have to remain in one place for the
> duration, can't set it up and then go shopping, or go to bed during the
> process.
>
> Disclaimer: I got nothing against those units with the bells and whistles
> by the way, that's personal choice...but I won't own or use one, for the
> reasons you quoted.
>
> N.
> --
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:26:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS
> From: ch...@saucyenterprizes.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Re: CS>First Batch of CS Thanks for the response Asif,
>
> I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I
> think, all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first
> “swallow” this morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth
> for about 5 min and then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart
> on one finger that I will be watching as sort of the “test results area.” I
> am generally healthy however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage
> I should go on. I was planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night).
> Any thoughts or suggestions on this?
>
> Thanks again to all,
> CT
>
>
>
> I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge
> starts pouring out.
> I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem
> Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that
> the sludge is at a minimum
> If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your
> current a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared
> maximum.
> For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma
> roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however
> whenever
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Hi Neville,
Being new to CS making, I am detecting that I have purchased a a ³bells and
whistles² machine. What type of machine do you recommend, or build yourself?
I am fine staying with the production and cleaning the electrodes. My first
batch took far longer than I thought it would, and I was watching it until I
went to sleep. When I awoke a few hours later the batch was done.
How long should a batch take? I am making mine in a squared off 24oz Ball
canning jar.
Thanks for the continued advice,
CT
> I take 30ml {1 ounce I believe} every morning before breakfast when the mouth
> is driest, been doing this for several years. If I feel some issue coming on,
> like cold or flu or whatever, I up that dose to a 250ml glass {8 ounces I
> believe}, and I may do that for a couple of days.
>
> And I'd be removing those electrodes every 30 minutes to clean them, if you
> think they need cleaning or not, regardless if the unit has auto shutoff or
> polarity reversal or whatever. Mid cycle over 6 hours is nowhere near good
> enough for me [opinion].
>
> All that polarity reversal will do is blow any stuff off the electrode
> straight back into the water, hence decanting or skimming or whatever will be
> required to clean the solution up. Between the time frames for polarity
> reversal there WILL be some buildup on the electrode {no matter how minute
> that buildup may be}, and after continual polarity reversal over a given time
> frame that buildup blown off the electrode at each time frame will accumulate
> and end up in the solution, hence the need for decanting or whatever.
>
> Some things just don't work satisfactorily for my liking, diligence and
> attention to the production process means more to me than 'setting and
> forgetting'. If I was on dialysis I'd have to remain in one place for the
> duration, can't set it up and then go shopping, or go to bed during the
> process.
>
> Disclaimer: I got nothing against those units with the bells and whistles by
> the way, that's personal choice...but I won't own or use one, for the reasons
> you quoted.
>
> N.
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:26:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS
> From: ch...@saucyenterprizes.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Re: CS>First Batch of CS Thanks for the response Asif,
>
> I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think,
> all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first ³swallow² this
> morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 min and
> then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger that I
> will be watching as sort of the ³test results area.² I am generally healthy
> however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go on. I was
> planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts or
> suggestions on this?
>
> Thanks again to all,
> CT
>
>
>
>> I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts
>> pouring out.
>> I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem
>> Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the
>> sludge is at a minimum
>> If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current
>> a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum.
>> For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma
>> roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however
>> whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour
>> slightly towards amber.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" > <http://chris%40saucyenterprizes.com> > wrote:
>>
>>> First Batch of CS Hello all,
>>>
>>> I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I
>>> am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of
>>> my jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I
>>> don¹t have any ³approved² filtration method in place and I would like to
>>> decant the liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid
>>> to remove the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the
>>> bottom sludge into the new container.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be very appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris Thomas
>>
>
>
RE: CS>First Batch of CS
I take 30ml {1 ounce I believe} every morning before breakfast when the mouth
is driest, been doing this for several years. If I feel some issue coming on,
like cold or flu or whatever, I up that dose to a 250ml glass {8 ounces I
believe}, and I may do that for a couple of days.And I'd be removing those
electrodes every 30 minutes to clean them, if you think they need cleaning or
not, regardless if the unit has auto shutoff or polarity reversal or whatever.
Mid cycle over 6 hours is nowhere near good enough for me [opinion].All that
polarity reversal will do is blow any stuff off the electrode straight back
into the water, hence decanting or skimming or whatever will be required to
clean the solution up. Between the time frames for polarity reversal there
WILL be some buildup on the electrode {no matter how minute that buildup may
be}, and after continual polarity reversal over a given time frame that buildup
blown off the electrode at each time frame will accumulate and end up in the
solution, hence the need for decanting or whatever.Some things just don't work
satisfactorily for my liking, diligence and attention to the production process
means more to me than 'setting and forgetting'. If I was on dialysis I'd have
to remain in one place for the duration, can't set it up and then go shopping,
or go to bed during the process.Disclaimer: I got nothing against those units
with the bells and whistles by the way, that's personal choice...but I won't
own or use one, for the reasons you quoted.N.Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:26:29
-0500
Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS
From: ch...@saucyenterprizes.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Thanks for the response Asif,
I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think,
all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first “swallow” this
morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 min and
then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger that I will
be watching as sort of the “test results area.” I am generally healthy however
and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go on. I was planning
on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts or suggestions on this?
Thanks again to all,
CT
I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts
pouring out.
I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem
Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the
sludge is at a minimum
If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current a
bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum.
For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma
roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however
whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour
slightly towards amber.
Sent from my iPhone
On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" wrote:
First Batch of CS Hello all,
I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I am
left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my jar
and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don’t have
any “approved” filtration method in place and I would like to decant the
liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove the
flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom sludge
into the new container.
Any advice would be very appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris Thomas
Re: CS>First Batch of CS/warts
Re: CS>First Batch of CSThuja tincture soaked dressing covered with a light & waterproof tape for 6 weeks usually works & possibly Biotin will also work removing warts. Jane - Original Message - From: Asif Nathekar To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:01 AM Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS There are various treatments for warts which have been discussed previously including electrical based devices. Worth a look through the archives On 10 Mar 2012, at 17:26, CT wrote: Thanks for the response Asif, I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think, all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first “swallow” this morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 min and then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger that I will be watching as sort of the “test results area.” I am generally healthy however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go on. I was planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts or suggestions on this? Thanks again to all, CT I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts pouring out. I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the sludge is at a minimum If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum. For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour slightly towards amber. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" wrote: First Batch of CS Hello all, I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don’t have any “approved” filtration method in place and I would like to decant the liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom sludge into the new container. Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks, Chris Thomas No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4862 - Release Date: 03/10/12
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
There are various treatments for warts which have been discussed previously including electrical based devices. Worth a look through the archives On 10 Mar 2012, at 17:26, CT wrote: > Thanks for the response Asif, > > I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think, > all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first “swallow” this > morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 min and > then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger that I > will be watching as sort of the “test results area.” I am generally healthy > however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go on. I was > planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts or > suggestions on this? > > Thanks again to all, > CT > > > > I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts > pouring out. > I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem > Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the > sludge is at a minimum > If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current > a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum. > For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma > roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however > whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour > slightly towards amber. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" wrote: > > First Batch of CS Hello all, > > I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I > am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my > jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don’t > have any “approved” filtration method in place and I would like to decant the > liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove > the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom > sludge into the new container. > > Any advice would be very appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chris Thomas >
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Thanks for the response Asif, I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think, all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first ³swallow² this morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 min and then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger that I will be watching as sort of the ³test results area.² I am generally healthy however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go on. I was planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts or suggestions on this? Thanks again to all, CT > I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts > pouring out. > I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem > Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the > sludge is at a minimum > If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current > a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum. > For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma > roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however > whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour > slightly towards amber. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" wrote: > >> First Batch of CS Hello all, >> >> I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I >> am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my >> jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don¹t >> have any ³approved² filtration method in place and I would like to decant the >> liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove >> the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom >> sludge into the new container. >> >> Any advice would be very appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Chris Thomas >
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
Hi JP, Thanks for responding. I was using Trem¹s SG6 at about 8ppm. It took over 6 hours (woke up this morning to find it done) to get a 24oz container to complete. The generator is supposed to provide smooth voltage. Is some top-float particulate normal? I will look into filtration if this top floating particulate is the norm. If not, I will work on my settings/environment. Thanks, CT > easy enough to fixx. Just run it through a coffee filter. Better check your > timing, and voltage. > JP > > > > > > > From: CT > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:43 AM > Subject: CS>First Batch of CS > > > First Batch of CS > Hello all, > > I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I > am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my > jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don¹t > have any ³approved² filtration method in place and I would like to decant the > liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove > the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom > sludge into the new container. > > Any advice would be very appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chris Thomas > > > > > >
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts pouring out. I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that the sludge is at a minimum If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your current a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared maximum. For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour slightly towards amber. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" wrote: > Hello all, > > I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I > am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my > jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don’t > have any “approved” filtration method in place and I would like to decant the > liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove > the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom > sludge into the new container. > > Any advice would be very appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chris Thomas
Re: CS>First Batch of CS
easy enough to fixx. Just run it through a coffee filter. Better check your timing, and voltage. JP From: CT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: CS>First Batch of CS First Batch of CS Hello all, I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now I am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom of my jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. I don’t have any “approved” filtration method in place and I would like to decant the liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the liquid to remove the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting any of the bottom sludge into the new container. Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks, Chris Thomas
Re: CS>first batch of CS
> i just made my first batch of CS with my made-at home generator. > i'd like to know a couple of things from the group: should my CS > have a "bitter" taste? Possibly. One, everybody seems to respond differently to the taste. I hardly notice it, while my wife and kids complain. Two, if you're driving it too hard and long, or stirring in the "fluffy" deposits, you could make it taste worse than it should. > should i see wispy clouds "falling" from my electrodes? If you're not using current limiting, yes you will. You need to tell us the recipe you're using so we can compare notes. Of course, once you've got some success with this you can introduce some of the other bells and whistles that Bob, Bob, James, Fred, Ivan, myself and others are chomping at the bit to tell you!!! In the meantime, congratulations! You're on your way. > should i stir in the small amount of sediment from the > bottom of my jar? No. You should try to leave the sediment undisturbed. It can usually be removed with the electrodes and wiped off a few times during your brewing session at the same time you stir. Afterward, let it settle and pour off the liquid, leaving the sediment behind. > thank you all for any help you can give me, 'cause > i'm certain that i need involvement in this healing liquid. Don't push for high ppm with an ultra-simple unit. Just make and take more. When you are ready, look at stirring, current limiting, and all the other suggestions you'll get. Let us know how you're doing. > i also have a p.s. for anyone who saw the web page that was with my > message a few days ago...my four kids built that page, AND > published it, and after i got over laughing 'til i cried, i > certainly couldn't fault Ivan for asking me what i was on! That explains a lot!!! :^} Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>first batch of cs
- Original Message - From: ROMEO RAABE Need a bit more info Romeo. What is the open circuit voltage of your recharger, I'm guessing about 15V? What is the wetted depth of your electrodes, and what distance are they apart? How much water? The 'cobwebs', in the water or floating on the water? Had you disturbed the electrodes, withdrawn and replaced them, stirred the water? Was there a build up of 'sludge' or 'trees' on the negative electrode. You will not necessarily see anything during generation, and the solution may be clear and may or may not gain a yellow colour some hours after the power is turned off. If you had kept going you may have found the solution gaining a yellow or gold colour. Clear CS has a smaller particle size than gold. A good idea is to obtain a cheap laser pointer to shine through the colloid, the particles of silver will show up as a beam of light. Regards - Ivan > I got my wires today and am making my first batch of cs. I'm using > distilled water andpowering it with my cell phone recharger. It is 12V > at 300ma. After one hour, there appears to be black cobwebs floating in > the water. Is this normal? I was waiting for a "cloud" and for the > solution to turn gold - what gives? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
