Re: DynBat ...
Hi Mark, at 9:37 AM (my time) on Saturday 12/2/05 you wrote: MP I only took a quick look at the page (didn't try DynBat), but, unless I am MP mistaken, it writes to the registry (it doesn't overwrite regular TB!'s MP keys). This isn't clear from the Googlised translation, you're right. Page three of the DynaBat details seems to give a pretty clear outline of what it does when it opens and closes, however. We need a more intelligent translation ; ) Page 1 of the DynBat details page (here in original): http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=120 says of the benefits of DynBat over The Batch: * DynBat bring along its own Registry * DynBat secures existing Registryinformationen * DynBat does not overwrite existing TheBat! Registrierungsinformationen Somt can be used USB stick an installation also at a PC, on that already TheBat! one installed. Perhaps that answers your question. MP What happens when you use the USB-stick on another computer, then? Does it MP leave traces in the registry there too? The page mentioned above (in Google-speak) says: Which procedures run off, after TheBat! one terminated? * The Registry safety devices become rotary secured * from tb4.reg tb5.reg becomes. * from tb3.reg tb4.reg becomes * etc. etc.. * the same applies to the BayesFilter Registry files (bf4.reg becomes bf5.reg, etc..) * The Registry of TheBat! to tb1.reg one exports * The Registry of BayesFilter is exported to bf1.reg * The two Registry keys are removed * If safety devices of existing Registry keys were made before these are now repaired. * DynBat is terminated now likewise. The Batch also deletes its traces (from the readme file): After installing The Batch!, when you want to run The Bat!, you double-click on thebatch.exe and that loads your The Bat! settings from 1.reg to the registry and starts thebat.exe. When you exit The Bat! the loader saves the settings to 1.reg and deletes the settings in the registry, leaving the computer without trails of The Bat! (unless you made The Bat! the default email manager). But 'The Batch', according to Thomas, doesn't have the functionality of DYnBat in terms of BayesIT, and various registry details I don't understand (see the details page of dynbat). Though it seems you can have a local version to TB installed on the machine you run DynBat without it interfering. Would be good to hear from someone who's using it ? -- DB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. - Rumi Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
DynBat ...
Has anyone any on the list any experience of using TB! from a USB drive using Thomas's DynBat? My German isn't great and I wanted to be sure before I try it out. see here for a translated page http://tinyurl.com/5cdpm or here for the original http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=120 Basically you have a full installation on the USB drive yes? and I guess you need to synchronise between the home installation and the USB, assuming of course you wanted two. So what does DynBat actually do? Does TB maintain full functionality? -- DB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Carbon dioxide levels are the highest for 55 million years, when no ice was present on the planet and sea levels were 110 mtrs higher. - Sir David King, UK chief scientific adviser (Guardian Weekly 23/7/04) Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recycle Bin in TB directory ??
Can anyone tell me how the 'recycle bin' in TB Program Directory works? Only just noticed it exists. It is used for attachments (in mine, mainly sent msgs attachments), but how do these get here and why? And how long do they stay? TIA -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recycle Bin in TB directory ??
Hello Mary,
you wrote:
MB I scoured the whole thing--looked under MAIL, looked under the
MB separate accounts. Just don't see it.
The folder is in my _Program Directory_ (Program Files|The Bat|Recycle
Bin) no the mail directory, if this is different for you. I have very
different locations for my mail directory and program directory
MB I have no idea how this got configured in this way for you.
Actually I think I may do. I was experimenting with test filters some
time ago that attempted to send old attachments from my 'sent mail'
archive folder to the recycle bin. I don't know how, but the filter
must have created this folder ... all the files were moved there
('modified') on the same date, suggesting this is the case.
The sorting office does allow you to select the Recycle Bin as target
for extracted attachments from messages, yet running the filter
'catches' messages without actually moving the attachments to the
recycle bin. They remain with the messages and don't appear in the RB.
I just ran the filter manually again and this is what happened ... no
more files were sent to the TB Program Dir Recycle Bin though, so
perhaps that came in to existence when I was first mucking around with
the filter set up.
The messages filtered have had attachments stored separate from
message bodies. I've since swapped back to embedding.
ANy thoughts on all of this would be appreciated...
--
David
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Re: Programing post of a mail...
Hi WilWilWil, you wrote: W Example : I write an email today but want that this mail is W sent to the person it is addressed to the wednesday 27 October at W 8:00 AM ! Of course the scheduler allows you to do this, though you would have to either put the message in a QT or create a special template inside the scheduler, as far as I know ... -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recycle Bin in TB directory ??
Hi Mary, you wrote: MB Good. That probably will solve any problems you were having. Yes I hoped it will. Thanks Mary... -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
column settings that don't set
This is a dead annoying problem: My column settings in the message list window won't stay how I set them. Inboxes from which I've banished the TO field have it return and instead the FROM field disappears; an account in which a few folders are threaded also threads the TRASH folder and INBOX which have not been set to thread; folders that have been customised return to default column settings. I have tried several times going through all my folders and resetting the columns the way I want them, but the problem reoccurs. I've also tried using the 'copy column settings to' feature with unpredictable results. This problem has been around since V2.11, from memory, and hasn't resolved with the new versions. Is there likely to be a corrupted file or a 'create random column settings at startup' checkbox that I've missed somewhere in prefs? Any assistance would be appreciated. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: column settings that don't set
Hi Marck,
you wrote:
MDP All of the settings you are trying to affect are governed by view
MDP modes.
Ah, so it's the 'No View Mode' / 'Set-up columns ...' method that
doesn't work. ('Set-up columns' is in the right click menu of the
column headers in the message list window).
My columns are nicely set now, thankyou Marck. I hope that unlike Mary
pre V3 the view modes work for me. But this is still a bug, yes? or
does the 'set-up columns' feature have a different purpose?
--
David
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Re: column settings that don't set
Hi Mary, you wrote: MB Depends. Are you running v. 3.0 or v. 3.01 (v. 3.0.1.33)? V 3.0.1.33, so my signature tells me : ) -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: column settings that don't set
Hi Mary, you wrote: MB Please support my report to BugTracker on this problem at: MB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3962 I'm not registered to use BugTracker. When I have time I'll try and remember to do so... -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ fossil fuels are SO twentieth century Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: column settings that don't set
Hi Mary, you wrote: MB There's no use for future new users of The Bat! to be plagued by MB this behavior. Indeed. I admire your drive ... I'll do my best to remember ... -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Using V 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: scheduling the running of filters
Hi Allie, you wrote: AM It remains manual for now. It occurred to me I could schedule sending myself a regular 'trigger' message and have the receipt of it trigger the running of a filter ... at least in theory ... yet to try ... IMAP filters I _still_ find unpredictable. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The UN estimates that the world's poorest countries are denied $700 billion because of unfair trade rules. (source: Christian Aid) http://kickaas.typepad.com http://www.maketradefair.com Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
scheduling the running of filters
Hello All, Would I be right in assuming that there is no way to _schedule_ the running of a manual filter? My IMAP trash folder needs occasional purging, and this occurred to me as a way of doing it. TB scheduler doesn't seem to support running a filter. Interested if anyone else has a way of doing the above ... also occasionally moving (according to age) messages from an IMAP folder into a (common) local folder, without having to run a manual filter, that is. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Naked people have little or no influence in society. - Mark Twain Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins
Hi Feli others, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: FW have a look at http://www.batworld.de/ or FW http://www.thebatworld.de/ um, my German isn't what it used to be ... how comes there isn't an equivalent site in English? could the authors stretch to a translated page? -- David ___ Indigenous Australian infants die at almost three times the rate of other Australian infants. (source: ANTaR 2004) http://www.antar.org.au/ Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
lost key and checksum codes
After trying to upgrade to v2.11.02 from v2.11 TB started playing up, so I've gone back to v2.11 Trouble is my registration details have been re-set, and TB is telling me I'm on a trial period. I've lost my archived message telling me the new key and key checksum codes for v2.??(I think due to losing archived messages through TB IMAP filtering problems), and my hard copy is on the other side of the world. Is anyone aware how to get these codes back electronically, either from RitLabs or from my hard drive? with thanks, -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.11, IMAP auto-filtering
Hi Christopher others, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: CB ...But the message is NOT moved to the destination folder. It CB simply stays where it is, and is not marked as read. Yes can confirm filtering is still not working properly in v2.11 IMAP. Although messages filtered from my IMAP folders seem to disappear entirely! 'Re-filtering' my IMAP trash folder into a common trash folder with the filter below: BeginFilter Name: Purge Trash Active: 1 Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Target: \\\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faDelServer,faoAdvOlder AgeOlder: 5 EndFilter Does 'catch' them, though they are not moved but simply dissappear from TB and are marked as deleted on the server. This has been the case with two other test filters designed to move messages from IMAP folders into common 'Archive' folders. NB filter did not 'catch' anything at all when synchorisation method was 'headers only'. Only fully synchronised messages seem to be caught in filter. This mirrors other behaviour in TB IMAP, when, for example, trying to move a message manually between folders or delete it (at least on my machine) the message needs to be fully downloaded. Could this be a factor in your filter not moving messages? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ If you would know what the Lord God thinks of money, you have only to look at those to whom he gave it. - Morris Bearing Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (
Hi Antje, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 12:55 PM (my time) on Friday 21/11/03 you wrote: AL However, as soon as I have the filter for the autoresponders process AL these mails to open the several browser windows following the links AL provided in each of the mails, each browser window displays the same AL content, ie. each is only processing the first spam mail of all that I AL had submitted. Strangely enough, this also happens when I manually AL open the links provided in the SpamCop mails. This is also what happens at this end. Now I wonder if it is a Mozilla problem rather than a TB problem ... I think you're using Mozilla aren't you? I have noticed this kind of behaviour elsewhere with Mozilla, though I haven't looked into it yet. For the sake of completion ... the issues which began this thread have been resolved. For a reason unknown to me the filters I had set up (both the account based one and the common folder based one) kicked in straight away when TB started the next day. Both filters are now working perfectly except for the problem above. I don't have a DOS window problem. AL I really think SpamCop is a great thing, so I do want this to work AL ;-)) Yes and so are these filters ... thanks Marck! -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-SPAM plug-in learning engine
Hi Phil, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 10:02 AM (my time) on Tuesday 18/11/03 you wrote: P I don't seem to be able to find this thread! OK here it is ... a little hidden if you were looking for 'spam plugins' or similar. The thread is called 'IMAP status, Bayesit alternatives' http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=tbudl_thebat_dutaint_comrestrict=exclude=words=%22IMAP+status%2C+Bayesit+alternatives%22 You may need to manipulate this link to get it on one line. Basically, a Bayes spam filter can be downloaded from http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download/bayesfilter.zip The read me file gives instructions on how to install it in TB. (You only need the TBB file from the ZIP file (TBB is the file extension for TB plugins) ... the rest can be discarded, apart from the read me file, of course. If you want more help follow the link above to the archive thread. hope this helps -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Our intellect is a feeble and dependent thing, a plaything ... of our impulses and emotions. - Freud Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Marck's SpamCop filters : (
I have been trying to set up Marck's SpamCop filters to automatically submit mail to SpamCop on a hotkey command. Trouble is I can't get it to create a message. The spam gets exported, is sitting there in the temp folder, and the original message moved to the trash folder, but no message is created. I've tried using the filter in an account-based Junk mail folder, and in a common folder (using the 'active account' macro in the 'create message' template) but with no joy in either case. Is there not an issue in that the option to 'export the message to a file' option in the sorting office is /after/ the 'create message for' option? Below are the filters I'm using. I would be grateful if someone with this working could have a look. Thanks. David This is the filter from the account-based sorting office: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\accountname\Inbox Target: \\accountname\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: submit...snip[EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49375 IsOfColour: default EndFilter and this is the filter from the common folder: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\\$JUNK$ Target: \\\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: submit...snip[EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %account\3D\22username@domain.com\22\0D\0A%put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49375 IsOfColour: default EndFilter -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete from Server
Hi Stuart, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 2:17 PM (my time) on Tuesday 18/11/03 you wrote: SC I would like to be able to set it up so that the spam I receive SC when I am reading email with The Bat! will be deleted from the SC server after it is marked read in the Junk folder. SC I have tried using a filter, but have had no luck. Any ideas. Have you tried using a filter evoked from a hotkey that filters for a @ in the kludges from your junk mail folder? I haven't tried it, but can't see why this wouldn't work. What filter have you tried? -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The Israeli soldiers came and opened fire in our neighbourhood. The younger children were screaming so we tried to get away. When we went back there was nothing left of my house. There was nothing left of my neighbourhood. - Ehad Abu Taha after Israeli incursion into Rafah refugee camp 10/03 (source: Guardian Weekly) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (
Hi Marck, Thanks for your reply. in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 8:27 PM (my time) on Tuesday 18/11/03 you wrote: MDP I just tested it here and it seems to work well. Hmmm MDP And this filter is in the sorting office of the appropriate MDP account? This looks very much like what I have here and a quick test MDP shows mine still working. Yes, I have the filter in 'read messages' and the source folder is the 'junk mail' folder within this account. (I have been testing the filter on previously received junk that I have moved back to the inbox and re-marked as junk [and read]) There are some check boxes I don't understand in the 'options' tab of the sorting office... like Check the selected message against this rule and Regular expressions, both of which are unchecked. MDP While the contents of this filter look right, it's not going to MDP work. Common folders do not have an associated sorting office from MDP which to summon a hotkey sorting office filter. Well I have a sorting office for common folders into which I pasted the filter I listed in my last post, and it worked i.e. it caught the selected message from my common junk folder, wrote it to the 'export.txt' file, and then moved the original message to my common trash folder. And it did it on a hotkey : ) Is this unexpected? As I said I just can't get it to create a message. Just been playing with filter settings to try to get it to work and no joy. Here is the latest copy of the filter from the /account/ sorting office: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\accountname\$JUNK$ Target: \\accountname\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: submit.snip@spam.spamcop.net NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49375 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: \0D\0A SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The United States produces one quarter of the world's carbon dioxide emissions. (source: Guardian Weekly) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
Hi Simon, at 9:41 AM on Monday 17/11/03 you wrote: MID: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S And after this explanation I've just realised that what you were S asking me to explain was an error. Doh! Ah well, I'll send this S anyway. Someone else might find it useful...well you never know. Yes I found it helpful Simon. I can't keep up with TB's keyboard shortcuts. BTW are you using Xray to edit your headers ... just curious -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-SPAM plug-in learning engine
Hi Phil, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 12:41 PM on Monday 17/11/03 you wrote: P I've just upgraded to V2.01.3. The help file mentions Anti-SPAM P plug-in learning engine but doesn't appear to give any further P details - like where is it, how does one use it, etc.? You can find an answer to your questions in the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ There was discussion about a week or two ago concerning the BayesIT plugin which works well at this end. The thread also contained instructions on how to get the plugin working. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ More than one in four of the world's adults cannot read or write ... 2/3's of these are women. (source: http://actionaid.org) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayes spamcop
Hi Paul, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 12:39 PM on Sunday 16/11/03 you wrote: PC JUNK folder, it is so easy to just open that folder and CTRL-ALT-S the PC messages to spamcop all at once. What does the above shortcut do for you? and how have you configured TB to send mail to SpamCop? -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ 16% of the world's population control 80% of the world's GDP (gross domestic product). (source: World Bank, UNHDR 2003) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayes spamcop
Hi Paul, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] at 7:03 PM (my time) on Monday 17/11/03 you wrote: PC here is the spamcop filter web page, just copy paste into your PC filters, making the appropriate modifications for accounts folders.. PC http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#spamcop+submission Thanks. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The UN estimates that the world's poorest countries are denied $700 billion because of unfair trade rules. (source: Christian Aid) http://kickaas.typepad.com http://www.maketradefair.com Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %WRAPPED macro question
Hello Chris, C You really should use a right angle bracket (). It is standard C across e-mail clients and operation systems. Thanks but I'm asking about TB's macro's rather than about standards for reply prefixing. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %WRAPPED macro question
Hi Robin, RA%_Wrap_Text=%QInclude(your_QT)%- RA%_Wrap_Limit=70%- RA%Prefix(: ,%QInclude(wrap))%- Yes that works an absolute treat thankyou! ps I have not come across the %_Wrap_Text= macro before ... I have the complete list of macros where is that one hidden? -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] He whose face gives no light, shall never become a star. - William Blake Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%WRAPPED macro question
Can anyone tell me: I'm trying to set up a top-posting reply template that wraps original text and adds a ': ' prefix before each line. Like this : sample text I am using Andrew Perevodchik's macro plug-in and this is the expression I've come up with: %WRAPPED=%PREFIX(: ,%TRIM(path to QT that strips text of tags etc)) the PREFIX TRIM macros are Andrew's Now, everything works fine except that the prefix is inserted before each line of the /original/ message, not the newly wrapped message. Can anyone tell me how to get it before each line of the newly wrapped message? Also I can't get the %WRAPPED macro to work otherwise. The expression %WRAPPED=path to QT that strips text of tags etc just doesn't wrap the text Am I doing something wrong? -- TIA, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] More than 3.5 million children across sub-Saharan Africa have lost both parents to AIDS (source: UN 2003) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi tb, tko First, Is TB IMAP known to be buggy? I've done a small amount of tko testing and there has been erratic behaviour, TB freezing and confusion. Yes the IMAP at my end, while not exactly buggy, is nevertheless unsatisfactory, at least in terms of the regular filtering functions (they don't work) and maintenance options which don't seem to be fully operational (yet). It took me a little while to get it going right and it still occasionally plays up. I have experienced once or twice a kind of freezing, but restarting TB fixed it straight away. tko I dropped K9 in favor of BayesIt (because I was going to use IMAP), but have tko learned I did so prematurely. I like the idea of an integrated plugin, but tko BayesIt is not ready for my use (blank dialogs, freezing, bugs). And yes I also had freezing problems with the Bayesit plugin and had to drop it. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exhange/IMAP and mail management
Hi Peter, on 10/11/03 you wrote: PF * TB wants to save drafts in the IMAP Outbox folder which leads to PF problems, as Exchange cannot seam to handle that. I cannot specify PF a Drafts folder in TB. I have the Drafts folder on my server set to synchronise with the Outbox in TB which works fine for me (well, apart from the usual IMAP issues with TB) PF * TB does not seem to update and compress the folders continously, I PF need to do that manually to get rid of ghost messages. PF * I cannot get filters to work. There is no problem when I PF re-filterbut the Inbox filters do not work automatically. Yes both these issues are just the way it is with TB and IMAP at the mo, sorry to say. I hope they will be rectified in future versions. Any news on this from the Betas? -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exhange/IMAP and mail management
Hi Peter, on 10/11/03 you wrote: PF Since I don't have access to the server, I need to make TB behave with PF the Exchange server and not the other way round. PF Hints? Sorry no. Out of my depth now, I'm afraid. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
Hi Steve, on 22/10/03 you wrote: ST Two questions: 1) what do these numbers mean? 2) How do I purge ST messages marked for deletion? The 1st number is the number of messages in the folder on the server. The second angle bracketed number is the number of messages in the folder on The Bat! Yes, I'd also have thought they'd be the other way 'round. It seems IMAP doesn't 'delete' messages from folders in the same way as we expect. Deleting a message leaves it in the folder but marks it for deletion. It is only removed when the Trash folder on the server is emptied, or the folder is purged in the Bat (see next paragraph). In the Bat the option FolderPurge Compress works for me to put these numbers right, if you know what I mean ... to fully synchronise and purge messages marked for deletion on the server. A week or so ago I was asking if this purging could be automated and by the looks of it it can't yet : ( FYI... the FAQs at Fastmail have a wealth of information about IMAP. They are also a magnificent mail server, with filtering options the likes of which are only bettered by TB. This means that all your basic filtering can be done well enough on the server, getting round at least some of the filtering probs you mentioned earlier. http://www.fastmail.fm/ -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] More than 3.5 million children across sub-Saharan Africa have lost both parents to AIDS (source: UN 2003) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
Hi Steve, on 20/10/03 you wrote: ST Where is it? I installed the new version but for some reason the old the_bat.exe was left in the folder. I manually extracted the new exe and replaced in the program file and v2.01.3 now works fine -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] More than 3.5 million children across sub-Saharan Africa have lost both parents to AIDS (source: UN 2003) Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP purging compressing
Hello Jonathan, JA Account, Properties, then Mail Management, then IMAP Fine-Tune then JA check the box compress folders when switching to another folder. Yes, I'm unsure exactly what that does because it has no noticeable effect ... it certainly doesn't purge the folders, which is what I'm after -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.01 crash burn
For the sake of completeness there was a corrupted IMAP account. It became corrupted when trying to rename it. Seems a more complicated procedure than for POP accounts -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP purging compressing
Hi TBUDL, I'm busy exploring the nuances and virtues of IMAP and TB! Is it true that there is no way to have all folders purged compressed automatically while one is working in an IMAP account? As messages are deleted and moved between folders on TB! it gets difficult to know exactly what's actually in them! I've tried all apparent automatic settings in the account properties and folder properties but nothing seems to have the same functionality as 'purge compress' in the folder menu -- with thanks, David Boggon Using The Bat! 2.01 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2.01 crash burn
Hello Roelof, RO Try to disable the corrupted IMAP account in the registry. I don't know how to do that, but I managed to sort it out by juggling backups that I had made regularly while reconfiguring, restaring TB firstly with the data folder removed. When I renamed my IMAP account it seems the account mail store wasn't renamed properly, which caused it to get confused. Incidently, how does one disable an account from the registry? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP purging compressing
Hello John, JM What is IMAP, how does one happen to get this type of email account JM instead of a regular pop account? I'm sure many people on this list could explain IMAP better than I. I've also read helpful introductions to IMAP on the web by typing in IMAP POP3 compared into google. Basically IMAP is a protocol which, rather than simply allowing a single-stream download from an inbox to a mail client, allows you to maintain the same folder structure, and exactly the same message store, between your mail client and your mail server. This basically means that your account as it appears on the bat will be replicated on the server so that when you log into its web-interface you will have things exactly the same as at home. One can also easily just download message headers, etc phew I have just switched to Fastmail, which looks impressivly reliable as a mail server, but I know myrealbox also hosts IMAP accounts. I guess it's most helpful if you need to use the web interface of your server a lot. Otherwise things aren't quite as smooth and seamless in the bat as with POP3, (as far as I'm concerned after a few days) mainly because of the synchronisation process, and, as I said in my original post, IMAP accounts need to be purged for moved and deleted mesages on the server to be finally sorted out of the folders they are coming from. AT the moment I can have up to 5 numbers in the Unread and Total columns combined of the message tree because the tree tells you how many messages in the folder on the bat and on the server. These figures don't match (between the bat and the server) until you purge the folder. But I hope the bat's IMAP will improve ... being the new protocol it will doubtless become more widely used. It has already improved a great deal in v2.01. It is now fully functional, it could just do with some refining. phew -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: IMAP purging compressing
DB Otherwise things aren't quite as smooth and seamless in DB the bat as with POP3, (as far as I'm concerned after a few days) DB mainly because of the synchronisation process I also can't get a simple message filter to work properly. A move filter to take particular messages to the inbox of another account is simply creating a double of the message in the IMAP account (and not moving it) Does this sound like a (reportable) bug? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: thebat.exe 100% CPU usage ... please help!
Hi Mark, MW the real problem was the OS. Thanks for your reply. Interesting to hear it was the OS. For the record, I dumped the Bayesit SPAM plugin and TB came good. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
thebat.exe 100% CPU usage ... please help!
thebat.exe has been using close to 100% CPU for a few days now. I have no idea how to go about remedying this. Have tried going to v2.00.6 from v2.00 and there has been no change. This is also on the back of one of my accounts suddenly refusing to create messages a few days ago (the command causing the bat to hang and 100% CPU usage). The account issue has been resolved by starting the account from scratch. I would be grateful for advice. v2.00 was behaving just fine for a few weeks, then this. Should I try re-installing? ... or go back to v1.62? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
account suddenly won't create messages
Grateful for help One of my 6 accounts suddenly refuses to create messages (new, reply, forward, redirect). I have: run the maintenance centre purged and compressed the folders deleted and restored the account (using v. recent settings) tried using blank templates and no success !? any suggestions to save me from having to start from scratch? -- many thanks, David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] When we feel strongly about something we will lead, even if no one is following us - US Secretary of State Colin Powell (Wall Street Journal 27/01/03) Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account suddenly won't create messages
ps that includes creating a message in another account and then switching the active account through the options menu. The Bat! just freezes, and the hard drive starts running. This account has worked flawlessly for 5 months since creation. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hi Rene, on 16/9/03 you wrote: CT Please note that the specials only work if there is an anti CT spam plugin active in the bat ( options / preferences / anti spam CT ...) Does that include Bayesit? There is no info in the help file about the 'mark as junk' setting. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developed nations constitute only 20% of the world's population, yet consume 86% of the world's goods. (source: UNHDR 2000/2001) Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
wrapping cookies problem
Trying to wrap cookies using the following macro: %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt' but all I get is the following where the cookie should be: Cannot open file C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt Take away the [%WRAPPED=''] and it works fine. can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong... following Gerd's advice on the archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg57790.html -- thanks in advance, David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: wrapping cookies problem
Hi Mark, you wrote: MA Try with the quotes the other way round! MA %WRAPPED=%COOKIE='t:\the bat\quotes.txt' yes have ... Just found the problem ... the file-path had run on to 2 lines ... putting it back solved the problem. -- regards, David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Am I missing something, or is it not possible for the HTML editor in v2.00 to be set as the default? I was expecting much fuller HTML editing support in v2.00 ... i.e. HTML default editor HTML templates. I don't want to open a can of worms here (or maybe I do) but what is wrong with using HTML in email? what is behind TB's relegation of HTML to the backburner? I've heard the purists talk of 'bloatmail'/bandwidth issues, but why is this such an issue? Surely the enormous formatting flexibility available with HTML email outweighs the bandwidth issue. After all, we're not on the brink of bandwidth rationing, are we? I appreciate some of us pay for the bandwidth we use, but text only HTML emails will use a negligible amount of extra bandwidth compared to plain text ones. Isn't this correct? Is it a reaction to the practices of spammers the influence of MS? or something more technical? I can make plain text messages look OK in TB! but I'm aware whenever I send mail that the P.T. usually looks pretty dreadful on recipient's machines. woops! ... gone a bit OT. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] The International Centre for Nonviolent Communication: http://www.cnvc.org Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Hi Allie, DB I can make plain text messages look OK in TB! but I'm aware whenever I DB send mail that the P.T. usually looks pretty dreadful on recipient's DB machines. AM Would you explain this further? I was thinking back to my Outlook Express days ... plain text messages looked, well, plain. I either didn't know or didn't care that I could configure the display font, and the different colours for lines of reply which TB is capable of was not so in OE, for instance. Many end users don't know enough/have enough time/have the inclination to delve into the plain text display settings of their client, and so plain text messages with fixed width fonts and no bold italics and font sizes/colours look very plain indeed beside their HTML counterparts. AM The problem with HTML mail is its overwhelming abuse. The ability to AM make it the default editor encourages such abuse. Hmmm. While some people who use HTML mail may abuse it, it is the spammers etc themselves who are at fault, not HTML, I think. AM I hate when HTML mail forces me to read it with a particular font and font AM size. Well yes, that's precisely my point. TB too makes it difficult for people to exercise the choice of HTML over plain text, for those prefering HTML who are also responsible users. But this is a political issue as well as a preferential one. Having said all this, if it really is an issue of principle, I applaude TB! for not selling out. The purist attitude to me does seem a little groupy, though ... and I wonder how sustainable it is in reality. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Narcissism is a necessary transitional phase during the consolidation of the ego. - Eric Neumann Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Hi Marck, on 9/9/03 we wrote: AM I hate when HTML mail forces me to read it with a particular AM font and font size. MDP Precisely. D Well yes, that's precisely my point. MDP It's not. It's the opposite of your point! My point is freedom of choice D TB too makes it difficult for people to exercise the choice of D HTML over plain text, for those prefering HTML who are also D responsible users. MDP On the whole, no. Most people who write HTML mail do so to impose MDP formatting and presentation on the recipient. That is already an MDP abuse of responsibility. With respect, the way a thing is presented is never usually the responsibility of the person to whom it is presented. We are always presenting ourselves and what we do in a particular way, whether we (or anyone else) likes it or not. The power the recipient has is in choosing to receive it or not. This seems like a complex issue, and I appreciate the technical background to it, but the widespread usage and general appeal of HTML messaging means it isn't going to go away in a hurry. The more relevant question, which Allie has just alluded to, seems to me how we can make HTML-type mailing better, addressing the issues some of us have raised here. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Hi Thomas, on 9/9/03 you wrote: My point is freedom of choice TF Your choice is costing me money. And exactly how much extra is it costing you? TF so why do you advocate HTML mails? I never said I did. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] The UN estimates that the world's poorest countries are denied $700 billion because of unfair trade rules. (source: Christian Aid) http://kickaas.typepad.com http://www.maketradefair.com Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
TF Your choice is costing me money. D And exactly how much extra is it costing you? BBTE Does it matter? Doing something that you know costs someone else money is BBTE rude, even if it's no more than one cent. I regret the tone of my reply (D) above. Certainly in some parts of the world this may be a very real issue. I wanted to defend myself against TF who seemed to be accusing me of costing him money, which I am not. My point was that one should look at the facts, and discern the best course of action to take based on those facts, rather than evoking arguments to rationalise one's prejudicial viewpoint. As my last contribution to this thread, I just want to say I have found the discussion informative, but that I do not wish to be identified (demonised) as someone who advocates HTML...I sense a lot of strong feeling on the list about this. I do advocate informed choice. Since coming to TB! I have been somewhat converted to plain text myself, and like many who have contributed, find it more than adequate for most of my mail. It still seems obvious to me that Ritlabs is making a judgement about HTML in the way it has configured TB!, and if this is a considered stance based on the principal of the thing, I applaud it wholeheartedly. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developed nations constitute only 20% of the world's population, yet consume 86% of the world's goods. (source: UNHDR 2000/2001) Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adding attachments list on msg send
Is there a way to add a quick template to a message at the time it is sent to the outbox (ie after the message has been finished)? I want to use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list attached files automatically, but I don't attach files until I'm just about to send them. Outgoing mail filters don't seem to provide that functionality. -- thanks in advance, David Boggon Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding attachments list on msg send
Hi Joseph, Thanks for your reply. on 8/9/03 you wrote: JN the next best thing I've found is to create a short QT JN that can be typed in the message at the end, before sending. Yes of course. I had not thought of adding the text to the macro, though. JN %IF:%ATTACHMENTS!=none:Attached file(s): %ATTACHMENTS. There is a much longer QT on the FAQ page: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#attachments+listing which purports to do the same thing. I don't really understand regex and so I can't decipher the difference. JN unless there is a way to do exactly what you--and I and no doubt others--are JN looking for ... I guess, theoretically at least, one could set up an outgoing mail filter that intercepted the message and created a new one adding the ATTACHMENTS macro onto the original mail. Do the outgoing mail filters ~catch~ mail before they are sent? Has anyone ever tried this? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tyranny cuts off the singer's hand But the voice from the bottom of the well Returns to the secret springs of the earth - Pablo Neruda Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two thougths
Hi Joan, on 8/9/03 you wrote: JJ The release of v2 seems premature. Should the name be changed to JJ The Bug? I suspect you're seeing a disproportionate number of bug messages. The upgrade functionality has not really impacted on my usage of the bat to justify the upgrade cost, however. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System tray icon
Hi Günter, on 7/9/03 you wrote: GM Since installing V2, the system try icon is no longer GM animated when there's unread mail - I'm sure the bat used to flap GM in V1.62. I had a similar problem with v1.62. The icon was unpredictable in its behaviour, sometimes working, sometimes not, when it should have been. It started out of the blue, I must say, and seemed to largely resolve itself toward the end of my 1.62 days. V2.00 has been fine so far. Good Luck! -- David Boggon Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mailto: execute malfunction
nMake sure that you have enabled one account as being the default one for nmailto: URLs (Account, Properties, General, on the bottom is a checkbox, nenable it). Yes I have one account set as mailto: default however the problem persists Dajabo Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virus Scan msg on mail check - Exploit-MIME.gen.exe
Hi Daniel DWhich version of McAfee Virus Scan are you using? 6.02.3000.1 Thanks for the info. I've found the message on my server and deleted it. Won't excluding the bat*.temp files within McAffee cause an infection if I do receive dodgy mail? David Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
