Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.totalizm.nazwa.pl/boiler.htm

This reference contains technical details of the boiler invented by Mr
Peter Daysh Davey which is the basis of the design discussed in this thread.


Cheers:   Axil

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM,  wrote:

> Courtesy of pesn.com -
>
> Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion
>
> Jones is experimenting with a bell electrode setup that strongly evidences
> excess (xs) energy and has similarities to the cell presented by Pons and
> Fleischmann. He says that there are at least two distinct phenomena in
> these experiments and that "fusion" is not what most of these "CF" or
> "LENR" types of arrangements exhibit
>
>
> http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischmann_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I thought the article was incoherent enough that I'd be afraid to guess
what the author really thinks his own point is. Ymmv.
Jeff


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Eric Walker  wrote:

> Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's
> recent research:
>
> 1. There is piezonuclear fusion.  Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was
> not this.
> 2. There is metal-assisted d-d fusion.  Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery
> was also not this.
> 3. There is anamalous xs heat, or "Freedom Energy," which is what
> Fleischmann and Pons investigated.  They did not discover it.  Peter Davey,
> in the 1940s, also researched it.  People do not know what goes
> into anomalous xs heat, but to call it "fusion"
> 3a. confuses the issue, because people want to see radiation if there is
> fusion.
> 3b. is incorrect.
>
> I couldn't tell whether Jones insisted on (3b) or was just emphasizing
> (3a).
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jeff Berkowitz  wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a really weird article. It starts off with this title:
>> Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Eric Walker
Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's
recent research:

1. There is piezonuclear fusion.  Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was
not this.
2. There is metal-assisted d-d fusion.  Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery
was also not this.
3. There is anamalous xs heat, or "Freedom Energy," which is what
Fleischmann and Pons investigated.  They did not discover it.  Peter Davey,
in the 1940s, also researched it.  People do not know what goes
into anomalous xs heat, but to call it "fusion"
3a. confuses the issue, because people want to see radiation if there is
fusion.
3b. is incorrect.

I couldn't tell whether Jones insisted on (3b) or was just emphasizing (3a).

Eric


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jeff Berkowitz  wrote:

>
> It's a really weird article. It starts off with this title:
> Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion
>


Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
It's a really weird article. It starts off with this title:
Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion
Then the author (Allen) goes on to quote Jones as follows:

"... there is a confirmed and published effect showing products of d-d
[deuterium-deuterium] fusion at low levels. This is true 'cold fusion' ..."

But then author Allen goes on to summarize:

"Jones has adamantly stated that the P&F reactions, while producing excess
heat, are not due to fusion."

(wtf!?) and

"The problem with calling it "fusion" when it is not ..."

(wtf again!?)

So it seems to me the larger problem here is that Allen's article is
incoherent, quoting Jones as saying one thing and then summarizing him (and
titling the article!) by saying exactly the opposite.

Jeff

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Gad. What a jerk. Was, is, remains.
>
> - Jed
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Frequency of Carrington-type solar storms + new preprints

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
With about the same frequency that three large comets (2 long period and 1
short period) visit the inner solar system...  Panstarrs visits once every
110,000 years.  I hope the sun does not have a bad spell

The other thing that occurs approx once every 500 years as found in ice
cores is:

Ice cores  contain thin nitrate-rich
layers that can be analyzed to reconstruct a history of past events before
reliable observations; the data from Greenland ice cores was gathered
by Kenneth
G. McCracken 
[9]
and
others. These show evidence that events of this magnitude—as measured
by *high-energy
proton radiation*, not geomagnetic effect—occur approximately once per 500
years, with events at least one-fifth as large occurring several times per
century.[10]
Less
severe storms have occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio
disruption was reported.

If I am right about Comets and dark matter, through beta decay they should
create a massive number of protons, electrons and neutrinos in their path,
which as I said earlier is very bad for DNA as well as IPADS and Power Grids

If you don’t see the comet this time around, you’ll have to wait 7 years
for its return. Hergenrother is a *short* ***period*  or *periodic* comet –
one that orbits the sun in fewer than 200 years. That’s what the “P”
 stands for in its name. Since its discovery in 1998 by American astronomer
Carl Hergenrother, this feathery visitor is making its third observed trip.
About 265 numbered periodic comets have been discovered to date. Unnumbered
periodic comets number nearly 250.

Next in our comet lineup is comet *C/2011 L4
PANSTARRS*.
 The “C” indicates a long-period comet or one that orbits the sun in more
than 200 years. Two hundred? That’s nothing. L4 Pan-STARRS’s period is
estimated at 110,000 years. Seeing it’s a once-in-a-lifetime experience for
sure.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:13 PM,  wrote:

>
> How often do Carrington-type solar storms occur?
> "Occurrence rate of extreme magnetic storms"
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.4417
>
>
> Possibility of transient room-temp superconductivity
> "Superradiant Superconductivity"
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.4567
>
>
> Nanoparticles may focus fields to arbitrarily high strengths
> "The Physics of Unbounded, Broadband Absorption/Gain Efficiency in
> Plasmonic Nanoparticles"
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.3797
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Gad. What a jerk. Was, is, remains.

- Jed


[Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-19 Thread pagnucco
Courtesy of pesn.com -

Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion

Jones is experimenting with a bell electrode setup that strongly evidences
excess (xs) energy and has similarities to the cell presented by Pons and
Fleischmann. He says that there are at least two distinct phenomena in
these experiments and that "fusion" is not what most of these "CF" or
"LENR" types of arrangements exhibit

http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischmann_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/





[Vo]:Frequency of Carrington-type solar storms + new preprints

2012-11-19 Thread pagnucco

How often do Carrington-type solar storms occur?
"Occurrence rate of extreme magnetic storms"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.4417


Possibility of transient room-temp superconductivity
"Superradiant Superconductivity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.4567


Nanoparticles may focus fields to arbitrarily high strengths
"The Physics of Unbounded, Broadband Absorption/Gain Efficiency in
Plasmonic Nanoparticles"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.3797




Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:51:20 -0800:
Hi,

1. More energetic neutrinos react more strongly with matter.
2. A massive localized fusion reaction somewhere below the surface of the Sun
might take a day or so for the energy to reach the surface, and produce a CME.
3. Neutrinos produced during such a reaction would need to be more energetic
than those from the p-p reaction, resulting in such neutrinos being more
effective at triggering decay reactions on Earth (see #1).
4. Due to their low reaction rate with matter, neutrinos are barely restricted
by the mass of the Sun, and reach the Earth just minutes after being created at
the locality of the fusion reaction, thus providing a "real time" indication
that the fusion reaction is taking place.
5. I once saw an estimate that it takes 1 years for fusion energy from the
core to reach the surface. In which case the fusion reaction I posit here would
need to be fairly shallow to reach the surface in just a day.
6. Such a fusion reaction would need to involve heavier elements than Hydrogen
to explain the more energetic neutrinos. The Carbon cycle might be a reasonable
candidate. (Both 13N & 15O have fairly short half lives, so the cycle could
proceed rapidly if the starting materials were present - especially if a supply
of shrunken Hydrinos were on hand to reduce the tunneling time).


>   
>   This story from Purdue is of interest for several
>unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
>Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
>accelerates nuclear decay rates. 
>http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
>ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html 
>   A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
>neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be detected
>or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount. 
>
>   The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
>precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a massive
>flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
>anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
>finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
>neutrinos more active (absorbable)? 
>   I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
>the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
>sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs). 
>   To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
>flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
>absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
>radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced in
>LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
>corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
>   In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
>effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect to
>charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
>QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
>seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
>preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
>value."
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
The other thing to note is the particle is in a decaying Earth orbit, not
your silly ass Wolfram 1st grade example.


On Monday, November 19, 2012, James Bowery wrote:

> I'm sorry, that answer is only a little better than "Its in the library
> somewhere."
>
> You get an F.
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:53 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
> Read my blog
>
>
> On Monday, November 19, 2012, James Bowery wrote:
>
> Pop quiz!
>
> Kepler is famous for having solved calculus derivation of minima and
> maxima of a curve when presented with the challenge of finding the optimum
> shape for a barrel of dill pickles to go with the tasty char broiled
> hamburgers that history now recognizes as the inspiration for flavour in
> physics.
>
> Kepler is also famous for having found the closed form solution to the two
> body orbital problem where the mass and velocities of two co-orbiting
> bodies is known.
>
> Given the mass of the earth and the purported orbital speed of the gremlin
> of thousands of kilometers per second, what is the minimum mass of a
> gremlin that can result in a maximal orbital velocity of just 1000
> kilometers per second?
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> Notice Woflram does not show you the particle mass.  Orbits depend on more
> than just velocity.  Also notice that the research does not place a lower
> limit on mass:
>
> "If the WIMP is heavy even with optimistic assumptions and large exposures
> it will only be possible to place a lower limit on its mass"
>
> Also notice that two body Kepler orbits do not necessarily orbit around
> the center of mass of either object they orbit a barycenter, which may
> place their orbit above and below the surface of matter that they weakly
> interact with.
>
> Also notice that if a good portion of your orbit is through a mass that
> you interact gravitationally with it will attempt to lock you in as opposed
> to an orbiting satellite in space.  Just like the moving ocean mass will
> attempt to steer you gravitationally.
>
> Also notice that your hamburger just disappeared thru beta decay while you
> were not watching and listening to me.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
> My, Goodness!
>
> You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside
> Earth
>
> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/
>
> And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger helper
> physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s rather
> than km/s!
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
> knowledge
>
> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>
> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
> particle
>
> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
> distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
> than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
> at speeds orders of magnitude above escape
>
>


Re: [Vo]:New article just crying for rebuttal

2012-11-19 Thread Eric Walker
I thought the post was kind of funny. The complaints are the usual ones -- no 
radiation, lack of reproducibility, not following the scientific method, etc. I 
think the post is harmless.

Eric


On Nov 19, 2012, at 10:33, David L Babcock  wrote:

> Anybody up for this?  At least go read it...
> 
> Ol' Bab  (Dave Babcock)
> 



Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread James Bowery
I'm sorry, that answer is only a little better than "Its in the library
somewhere."

You get an F.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:53 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> Read my blog
>
>
> On Monday, November 19, 2012, James Bowery wrote:
>
>> Pop quiz!
>>
>> Kepler is famous for having solved calculus derivation of minima and
>> maxima of a curve when presented with the challenge of finding the optimum
>> shape for a barrel of dill pickles to go with the tasty char broiled
>> hamburgers that history now recognizes as the inspiration for flavour in
>> physics.
>>
>> Kepler is also famous for having found the closed form solution to the
>> two body orbital problem where the mass and velocities of two co-orbiting
>> bodies is known.
>>
>> Given the mass of the earth and the purported orbital speed of the
>> gremlin of thousands of kilometers per second, what is the minimum mass of
>> a gremlin that can result in a maximal orbital velocity of just 1000
>> kilometers per second?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Notice Woflram does not show you the particle mass.  Orbits depend on
>> more than just velocity.  Also notice that the research does not place a
>> lower limit on mass:
>>
>> "If the WIMP is heavy even with optimistic assumptions and large exposures
>> it will only be possible to place a lower limit on its mass"
>>
>> Also notice that two body Kepler orbits do not necessarily orbit around
>> the center of mass of either object they orbit a barycenter, which may
>> place their orbit above and below the surface of matter that they weakly
>> interact with.
>>
>> Also notice that if a good portion of your orbit is through a mass that
>> you interact gravitationally with it will attempt to lock you in as opposed
>> to an orbiting satellite in space.  Just like the moving ocean mass will
>> attempt to steer you gravitationally.
>>
>> Also notice that your hamburger just disappeared thru beta decay while
>> you were not watching and listening to me.
>>
>> Stewart
>> darkmattersalot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>>
>> My, Goodness!
>>
>> You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside
>> Earth
>>
>> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/
>>
>> And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger
>> helper physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s
>> rather than km/s!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
>> knowledge
>>
>> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
>> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>>
>> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
>> particle
>>
>> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
>> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
>> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
>> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>
>> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
>> distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
>> than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
>> at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to avoid
>> escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also explains why
>> this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation of the earth
>> so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the surface of the
>> earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital system but
>> geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth because those
>> orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot enjoy the
>> sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger that has
>> benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart <
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
Read my blog

On Monday, November 19, 2012, James Bowery wrote:

> Pop quiz!
>
> Kepler is famous for having solved calculus derivation of minima and
> maxima of a curve when presented with the challenge of finding the optimum
> shape for a barrel of dill pickles to go with the tasty char broiled
> hamburgers that history now recognizes as the inspiration for flavour in
> physics.
>
> Kepler is also famous for having found the closed form solution to the two
> body orbital problem where the mass and velocities of two co-orbiting
> bodies is known.
>
> Given the mass of the earth and the purported orbital speed of the gremlin
> of thousands of kilometers per second, what is the minimum mass of a
> gremlin that can result in a maximal orbital velocity of just 1000
> kilometers per second?
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> Notice Woflram does not show you the particle mass.  Orbits depend on more
> than just velocity.  Also notice that the research does not place a lower
> limit on mass:
>
> "If the WIMP is heavy even with optimistic assumptions and large exposures
> it will only be possible to place a lower limit on its mass"
>
> Also notice that two body Kepler orbits do not necessarily orbit around
> the center of mass of either object they orbit a barycenter, which may
> place their orbit above and below the surface of matter that they weakly
> interact with.
>
> Also notice that if a good portion of your orbit is through a mass that
> you interact gravitationally with it will attempt to lock you in as opposed
> to an orbiting satellite in space.  Just like the moving ocean mass will
> attempt to steer you gravitationally.
>
> Also notice that your hamburger just disappeared thru beta decay while you
> were not watching and listening to me.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
> My, Goodness!
>
> You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside
> Earth
>
> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/
>
> And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger helper
> physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s rather
> than km/s!
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
> knowledge
>
> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>
> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
> particle
>
> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
> distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
> than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
> at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to avoid
> escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also explains why
> this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation of the earth
> so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the surface of the
> earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital system but
> geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth because those
> orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot enjoy the
> sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger that has
> benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart <
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread James Bowery
Pop quiz!

Kepler is famous for having solved calculus derivation of minima and maxima
of a curve when presented with the challenge of finding the optimum shape
for a barrel of dill pickles to go with the tasty char broiled hamburgers
that history now recognizes as the inspiration for flavour in physics.

Kepler is also famous for having found the closed form solution to the two
body orbital problem where the mass and velocities of two co-orbiting
bodies is known.

Given the mass of the earth and the purported orbital speed of the gremlin
of thousands of kilometers per second, what is the minimum mass of a
gremlin that can result in a maximal orbital velocity of just 1000
kilometers per second?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> Notice Woflram does not show you the particle mass.  Orbits depend on more
> than just velocity.  Also notice that the research does not place a lower
> limit on mass:
>
> "If the WIMP is heavy even with optimistic assumptions and large exposures
> it will only be possible to place a lower limit on its mass"
>
> Also notice that two body Kepler orbits do not necessarily orbit around
> the center of mass of either object they orbit a barycenter, which may
> place their orbit above and below the surface of matter that they weakly
> interact with.
>
> Also notice that if a good portion of your orbit is through a mass that
> you interact gravitationally with it will attempt to lock you in as opposed
> to an orbiting satellite in space.  Just like the moving ocean mass will
> attempt to steer you gravitationally.
>
> Also notice that your hamburger just disappeared thru beta decay while you
> were not watching and listening to me.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> My, Goodness!
>>
>> You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside
>> Earth
>>
>> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/
>>
>> And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger
>> helper physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s
>> rather than km/s!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
>>> knowledge
>>>
>>> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
>>> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>>>
>>> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
>>> particle
>>>
>>> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
>>> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
>>> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
>>> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>>
 iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at
 a distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater
 force than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin
 travelling at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to
 avoid escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also
 explains why this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation
 of the earth so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the
 surface of the earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital
 system but geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth
 because those orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot
 enjoy the sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger
 that has benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:

> Weak interactions are most noticeable when particles undergo beta
> decay , and in the
> production of deuterium and then helium from hydrogen that powers the 
> sun's
> thermonuclear process.  At the center of every Sun and planet is dark
> matter.  The only difference between a Sun and a planet is the size and
> gravitational pull of the dark matter nucleus.  A sun's pull is great
> enough to initiate Nuclear Fusion on a grand scale.  The gas giants in our
> solar system all have a dark matter nucleus/LENR reactor at their center
> creating Hydrogen, Helium and Deuterium, etc.  Mercury, Venus, Earth and
> Mars' reactor is tuckered out from ages of dark matter annihilation from
> being closer to the sun and getting pelted.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
>> *weakly interacting massive particles* or *WIMPs*, are particles
>> serving as one possible solution to the dark 
>> matter<

Re: [Vo]:Armageddon outta here

2012-11-19 Thread Terry Blanton
Here's a web site to get you through it:

http://deoxy.org/

You'll find it to be multi-dimensional and hence, better than the HHGttG.

Bring a towel.


Re: [Vo]:Armageddon outta here

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
If Armageddon were linked to Mideast violence we would all be long gone.

I think the technology is close.

With 3 comets in the inner solar system we might be dodging dark matter for
awhile.  For the next year we will be living dangerously close to those
intersecting points on a Feynman particle diagram, with 3 times ? nuclei
comet particles orbiting near our sun's particle orbit all intersecting in
our part of the galaxy in the span of less than a year.

Dark matter annihilates(each other).  Lots of carpet bombing of the sun
nuclei will chill its dark matter nucleus and cool things off but unleash
nasty CMEs.  Lot's of carpet bombing of the Earth will create beta decay
swiss cheese of matter and lots of atmospheric and Earthly uncertainty...

Should be interesting times in the next year or two either way.

Stewart
darkmattersalot.com


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Roarty, Francis X <
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:

>  With the middle east violence escalating on schedule to coincide with
> the end of the Mayan calendar I gotta wonder when the proof of LENR will be
> released so the aliens and illuminatti can finally reveal themselves, for
> myself I feel the end of the Mayan calendar may only be a side effect of
> the technology about to be understood where calendars will have to be
> revamped to include temporal navigation :_) Happy Holidays!
>
> Fran
>


[Vo]:Armageddon outta here

2012-11-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
With the middle east violence escalating on schedule to coincide with the end 
of the Mayan calendar I gotta wonder when the proof of LENR will be released so 
the aliens and illuminatti can finally reveal themselves, for myself I feel the 
end of the Mayan calendar may only be a side effect of the technology about to 
be understood where calendars will have to be revamped to include temporal 
navigation :_) Happy Holidays!
Fran


Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
Notice Woflram does not show you the particle mass.  Orbits depend on more
than just velocity.  Also notice that the research does not place a lower
limit on mass:

"If the WIMP is heavy even with optimistic assumptions and large exposures
it will only be possible to place a lower limit on its mass"

Also notice that two body Kepler orbits do not necessarily orbit around the
center of mass of either object they orbit a barycenter, which may place
their orbit above and below the surface of matter that they weakly interact
with.

Also notice that if a good portion of your orbit is through a mass that you
interact gravitationally with it will attempt to lock you in as opposed to
an orbiting satellite in space.  Just like the moving ocean mass will
attempt to steer you gravitationally.

Also notice that your hamburger just disappeared thru beta decay while you
were not watching and listening to me.

Stewart
darkmattersalot.com








On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, James Bowery  wrote:

> My, Goodness!
>
> You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside
> Earth
>
> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/
>
> And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger helper
> physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s rather
> than km/s!
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
>> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
>> knowledge
>>
>> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
>> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>>
>> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
>> particle
>>
>> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
>> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
>> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
>> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>
>>> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at
>>> a distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater
>>> force than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin
>>> travelling at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to
>>> avoid escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also
>>> explains why this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation
>>> of the earth so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the
>>> surface of the earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital
>>> system but geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth
>>> because those orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot
>>> enjoy the sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger
>>> that has benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>>
 Weak interactions are most noticeable when particles undergo beta 
 decay,
 and in the production of deuterium and then helium from hydrogen that
 powers the sun's thermonuclear process.  At the center of every Sun and
 planet is dark matter.  The only difference between a Sun and a planet is
 the size and gravitational pull of the dark matter nucleus.  A sun's pull
 is great enough to initiate Nuclear Fusion on a grand scale.  The gas
 giants in our solar system all have a dark matter nucleus/LENR reactor at
 their center creating Hydrogen, Helium and Deuterium, etc.  Mercury, Venus,
 Earth and Mars' reactor is tuckered out from ages of dark matter
 annihilation from being closer to the sun and getting pelted.

 Stewart
 darkmattersalot.com



 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:

> *weakly interacting massive particles* or *WIMPs*, are particles
> serving as one possible solution to the dark 
> matter problem.
> These particles interact through the weak 
> force
>  and gravity , and possibly
> through other interactions no stronger than the weak force. Because they 
> do
> not interact with electromagnetism they cannot be seen directly, and
> because they do not interact with the strong nuclear 
> force they
> do not react strongly with atomic nuclei.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
>> They weakly react via gravity, that is all they need.  You can keep
>> the hamburgers.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>
>>> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with th

[Vo]:New article just crying for rebuttal

2012-11-19 Thread David L Babcock
At Resilience.org (was Energy Bulletin), the article "Science's Evil 
Twin" by Ugo Bardi.  This piece of trash takes the 'toxic science' approach:


http://www.resilience.org/stories/2012-11-19/science-s-evil-twin

I have enormous respect for the many contributors at Resilience, but 
this guy does damage to their image.


I dearly want to reply myself but I don't have the depth to pull it off 
-I am sure I would just look like a demented juvenile fan, and make it 
worse!


Oddly, I am quite sympathetic with the real problem CF will present to 
the whole (resilience, peak oil, peak everything, de-growth) scene.  By 
re-enabling the endless growth paradigm, CF will hasten (okay, may well 
hasten) the utter collapse of our civilization.  And maybe Dr. Badi sees 
that.  Or maybe he's just another Denier.


Anybody up for this?  At least go read it...

Ol' Bab  (Dave Babcock)



Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread James Bowery
My, Goodness!

You'd better get over there to Wolfram's model of WIMP Orbiting Inside Earth

http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/WIMPOrbitingInsideEarth/

And tell them to fix their units labeling.  If one were a hamburger helper
physicist, one might be led to believe that the speed unit was m/s rather
than km/s!


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
> knowledge
>
> local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
> http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf
>
> fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
> particle
>
> I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
> you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
> that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
> cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.
>


>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
>> distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
>> than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
>> at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to avoid
>> escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also explains why
>> this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation of the earth
>> so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the surface of the
>> earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital system but
>> geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth because those
>> orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot enjoy the
>> sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger that has
>> benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> Weak interactions are most noticeable when particles undergo beta 
>>> decay,
>>> and in the production of deuterium and then helium from hydrogen that
>>> powers the sun's thermonuclear process.  At the center of every Sun and
>>> planet is dark matter.  The only difference between a Sun and a planet is
>>> the size and gravitational pull of the dark matter nucleus.  A sun's pull
>>> is great enough to initiate Nuclear Fusion on a grand scale.  The gas
>>> giants in our solar system all have a dark matter nucleus/LENR reactor at
>>> their center creating Hydrogen, Helium and Deuterium, etc.  Mercury, Venus,
>>> Earth and Mars' reactor is tuckered out from ages of dark matter
>>> annihilation from being closer to the sun and getting pelted.
>>>
>>> Stewart
>>> darkmattersalot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>>
 *weakly interacting massive particles* or *WIMPs*, are particles
 serving as one possible solution to the dark 
 matter problem.
 These particles interact through the weak 
 force
  and gravity , and possibly
 through other interactions no stronger than the weak force. Because they do
 not interact with electromagnetism they cannot be seen directly, and
 because they do not interact with the strong nuclear 
 force they
 do not react strongly with atomic nuclei.



 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:

> They weakly react via gravity, that is all they need.  You can keep
> the hamburgers.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>
>> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with this dark matter
>> stuff.  Clearly, the only substance that can orbit the earth at a 
>> velocity
>> orders of magnitude above escape velocity, as you posit it must, is
>> hamburger.  Why do I say this?  Because in order to overcome the tendency
>> to take off on a hyperbolic trajectory, the substance must have a helper.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> Axil,
>>>
>>> One thing I have noticed in my dark matter model for a particle is
>>> that when a dark matter nucleus is subject to more dense matter on one 
>>> side
>>> of it (i.e. water), it converts the matter to energy and shoots it out 
>>> the
>>> opposite side in order to have equilibrium on both sides, like a...comet
>>> nucleus does with it's ion tail.  That bow/shock wave is also what I
>>> believe is leading to many massive fish/mammal kills underwater by these
>>> particles when they are orbiting around us and into the Earth.
>>>
>>> Lastly, there is a crazy guy on his blog saying that he solved the
>>> B

Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread Axil Axil
In the early 1990's, physicist Ken Shoulders received five patents for his
discovery of the High Density Charge Cluster (HDCC), "a relatively
discrete, self-contained, negatively-charged, high-density state of matter
(a bundle of electrons that) appears to be produced by the application of a
high electrical field between a cathode and an anode (i.e. 2-10 kV at the
tip of a sharply pointed electrode)." It can also be described as 'a
spherical mono pole oscillator'. Shoulders has given it the name 'Electrum
Validium' (EV), meaning strong electron. EVs have been credited with
accomplishing CF transmutations. Ken Shoulders invented also a method of
Plasma-Injected Transmutation for the remediation of nuclear waste by EVs,
and has demonstrated the complete elimination of radioactivity in
high-level nuclear material. See: Kenneth Shoulders, US Patents #5018180,
#5054047, #5123039 and #5148461

EVs apparently function as a collective accelerator with sufficient energy
to inject a large group of nuclei into a target and promote nuclear cluster
reactions. The composition of EVs allows for the inclusion of some
1,000,000 nuclides. Ions can be added to EVs until the net charge becomes
positive. Such EVs are called Nuclide-EVs (NEVs). According to shoulders:
"The NEV acts as an ultra-massive, negative ion with high charge-to-mass
ratio. This provides the function of a simple nuclear accelerator. Such
nuclear reactions are fundamentally an event involving large numbers, and
not one of widely isolated events working at an atomic level." Shoulders
offers an ad hoc explanation of these results as being "due largely to a
nuclear cluster reaction having an unknown form of coherence."

Ed Storms crack experiment may be forming high charge separation within the
crack near or at the site of transmutation that will accelerate nuclear
reactions rates.



Cheers:axil

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:

>
> This story from Purdue is of interest for several
> unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
> Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
> accelerates nuclear decay rates.
>
> http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
> ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html
> A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
> neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be
> detected
> or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount.
>
> The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
> precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a
> massive
> flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
> anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
> finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
> neutrinos more active (absorbable)?
> I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
> the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
> sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs).
> To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
> flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
> absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
> radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced
> in
> LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
> corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
> In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
> effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect
> to
> charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
> QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
> seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
> preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
> value."
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
Stick to cooking hamburgers.  You make much more sense in your field of
knowledge

local WIMP speed distribution is known (Maxwellian with vc=220 km/s)
http://conferences.fnal.gov/dmwksp/Talks/AGreen.pdf

fits great with my orbital model speed and mass of a massive collapsed
particle

I have supplied plenty of predictions as to location and detection for
you/others to prove me wrong. I have also supplied plenty of observations
that fit.  I suggest you camp out near an actively growing sinkhole and
cook your hamburgers on your beta decay grill.





On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, James Bowery  wrote:

> iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
> distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
> than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
> at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to avoid
> escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also explains why
> this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation of the earth
> so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the surface of the
> earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital system but
> geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth because those
> orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot enjoy the
> sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger that has
> benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
>> Weak interactions are most noticeable when particles undergo beta 
>> decay,
>> and in the production of deuterium and then helium from hydrogen that
>> powers the sun's thermonuclear process.  At the center of every Sun and
>> planet is dark matter.  The only difference between a Sun and a planet is
>> the size and gravitational pull of the dark matter nucleus.  A sun's pull
>> is great enough to initiate Nuclear Fusion on a grand scale.  The gas
>> giants in our solar system all have a dark matter nucleus/LENR reactor at
>> their center creating Hydrogen, Helium and Deuterium, etc.  Mercury, Venus,
>> Earth and Mars' reactor is tuckered out from ages of dark matter
>> annihilation from being closer to the sun and getting pelted.
>>
>> Stewart
>> darkmattersalot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> *weakly interacting massive particles* or *WIMPs*, are particles
>>> serving as one possible solution to the dark 
>>> matter problem.
>>> These particles interact through the weak 
>>> force
>>>  and gravity , and possibly
>>> through other interactions no stronger than the weak force. Because they do
>>> not interact with electromagnetism they cannot be seen directly, and
>>> because they do not interact with the strong nuclear 
>>> force they
>>> do not react strongly with atomic nuclei.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>>
 They weakly react via gravity, that is all they need.  You can keep the
 hamburgers.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, James Bowery wrote:

> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with this dark matter
> stuff.  Clearly, the only substance that can orbit the earth at a velocity
> orders of magnitude above escape velocity, as you posit it must, is
> hamburger.  Why do I say this?  Because in order to overcome the tendency
> to take off on a hyperbolic trajectory, the substance must have a helper.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>>
>> One thing I have noticed in my dark matter model for a particle is
>> that when a dark matter nucleus is subject to more dense matter on one 
>> side
>> of it (i.e. water), it converts the matter to energy and shoots it out 
>> the
>> opposite side in order to have equilibrium on both sides, like a...comet
>> nucleus does with it's ion tail.  That bow/shock wave is also what I
>> believe is leading to many massive fish/mammal kills underwater by these
>> particles when they are orbiting around us and into the Earth.
>>
>> Lastly, there is a crazy guy on his blog saying that he solved the
>> Bermuda Triangle mystery, something about orbiting weakly interacting
>> massive particles, contrails and sucking in airplanes.
>>
>> http://darkmattersalot.com
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>>> “In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining 
>>> effect,
>>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forc

Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
Big brother

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weakly_interacting_massive_particles

On Monday, November 19, 2012, Jones Beene wrote:

>  Hi - I’m confused by your references. These two citations appear to be
> incompatible. The Berkeley paper suggests neutrinos and dark matter are
> identical or else neutrinos are an energetic subset of dark matter.
> However, neutrinos cannot “orbit” anything since they have no charge or
> magnetic susceptibility and only miniscule mass. Presumably, they move in a
> near straight line at c. most of the time.
>
> ** **
>
> How can a massive “particle” be composed of nearly mass-less neutrinos,
> and how could they orbit anything or appear to have a very large collective
> mass? 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com  'cvml', 'cheme...@gmail.com');>]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 9:04 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com  'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?
>
> ** **
>
> Jones,
>
> ** **
>
> I believe the Elliptical CMEs you see on the sun are made up of orbiting
> dark matter around the nucleus of the sun, which is also dark matter.  They
> trigger beta decay in their surroundings, breaking up the hydrogen into
> protons, electrons and creating neutrinos.  The elliptical CME arc at the
> sun is the same orbital arc the particles create on Earth while orbiting
> and creating low pressure systems in the atmosphere and beta decay in the
> Earth.  Hurricane Sandy was an orbiting particle with a mass of approx
> 1x10e17 kg.  Its beta decay triggered the large sinkhole in the Erie Canal
> as did Hurricane Isaac particle and the Bayou Corne sinkhole.
>
> ** **
>
> http://astro.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/hdm.html
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4165
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> 
>
>
> This story from Purdue is of interest for several
> unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
> Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
> accelerates nuclear decay rates.
>
> http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
> ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html
> A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
> neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be
> detected
> or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount.
>
> The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
> precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a
> massive
> flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
> anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
> finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
> neutrinos more active (absorbable)?
> I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
> the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
> sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs).
> To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
> flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
> absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
> radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced
> in
> LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
> corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
> In short, this mystery radiation would opera
>


Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes

2012-11-19 Thread James Bowery
iYes, of course!  The weak interaction, which essentially disappears at a
distance of around 10^-17m, provides many orders of magnitude greater force
than does gravitation at scales of 10^3m.  This is why a gremlin travelling
at speeds orders of magnitude above escape velocity, is able to avoid
escape from the earth as it orbits through the earth.  It also explains why
this "Kepler orbit" of the gremlin is locked to the rotation of the earth
so as to keep the geographic intersection points to the surface of the
earth effects more or less constant.  No other orbital system but
geostationary orbit is so locked to the rotation of the earth because those
orbits are more than 10^-17m from earth and therefore cannot enjoy the
sizzling juicy smoked flavor, dare I say "charm" of hamburger that has
benefitted from helpers such fermionic fiesta cheese sauce.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> Weak interactions are most noticeable when particles undergo beta 
> decay,
> and in the production of deuterium and then helium from hydrogen that
> powers the sun's thermonuclear process.  At the center of every Sun and
> planet is dark matter.  The only difference between a Sun and a planet is
> the size and gravitational pull of the dark matter nucleus.  A sun's pull
> is great enough to initiate Nuclear Fusion on a grand scale.  The gas
> giants in our solar system all have a dark matter nucleus/LENR reactor at
> their center creating Hydrogen, Helium and Deuterium, etc.  Mercury, Venus,
> Earth and Mars' reactor is tuckered out from ages of dark matter
> annihilation from being closer to the sun and getting pelted.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
>> *weakly interacting massive particles* or *WIMPs*, are particles serving
>> as one possible solution to the dark 
>> matter problem.
>> These particles interact through the weak 
>> force
>>  and gravity , and possibly
>> through other interactions no stronger than the weak force. Because they do
>> not interact with electromagnetism they cannot be seen directly, and
>> because they do not interact with the strong nuclear 
>> force they
>> do not react strongly with atomic nuclei.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> They weakly react via gravity, that is all they need.  You can keep the
>>> hamburgers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>>
 I still think you're barking up the wrong tree with this dark matter
 stuff.  Clearly, the only substance that can orbit the earth at a velocity
 orders of magnitude above escape velocity, as you posit it must, is
 hamburger.  Why do I say this?  Because in order to overcome the tendency
 to take off on a hyperbolic trajectory, the substance must have a helper.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:

> Axil,
>
> One thing I have noticed in my dark matter model for a particle is
> that when a dark matter nucleus is subject to more dense matter on one 
> side
> of it (i.e. water), it converts the matter to energy and shoots it out the
> opposite side in order to have equilibrium on both sides, like a...comet
> nucleus does with it's ion tail.  That bow/shock wave is also what I
> believe is leading to many massive fish/mammal kills underwater by these
> particles when they are orbiting around us and into the Earth.
>
> Lastly, there is a crazy guy on his blog saying that he solved the
> Bermuda Triangle mystery, something about orbiting weakly interacting
> massive particles, contrails and sucking in airplanes.
>
> http://darkmattersalot.com
>
> Stewart
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> “In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining 
>> effect,
>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>
>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface
>> is important for this second effect to be self sustaining. It appears 
>> that
>> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
>> the metal or leaving the metal surface. I feel there is a clue here
>> somewhere”
>>
>> The self-sustaining structure that preserves the positive water ionic
>> crystal is a plasmoid.
>>
>> A plasmoid is a coil of negative and positive electric currents that
>> form a ball with the positive ions on the inside and the negative 
>> elect

RE: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread Jones Beene
Hi - I'm confused by your references. These two citations appear to be
incompatible. The Berkeley paper suggests neutrinos and dark matter are
identical or else neutrinos are an energetic subset of dark matter. However,
neutrinos cannot "orbit" anything since they have no charge or magnetic
susceptibility and only miniscule mass. Presumably, they move in a near
straight line at c. most of the time.

 

How can a massive "particle" be composed of nearly mass-less neutrinos, and
how could they orbit anything or appear to have a very large collective
mass? 

 

 

From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:04 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

 

Jones,

 

I believe the Elliptical CMEs you see on the sun are made up of orbiting
dark matter around the nucleus of the sun, which is also dark matter.  They
trigger beta decay in their surroundings, breaking up the hydrogen into
protons, electrons and creating neutrinos.  The elliptical CME arc at the
sun is the same orbital arc the particles create on Earth while orbiting and
creating low pressure systems in the atmosphere and beta decay in the Earth.
Hurricane Sandy was an orbiting particle with a mass of approx 1x10e17 kg.
Its beta decay triggered the large sinkhole in the Erie Canal as did
Hurricane Isaac particle and the Bayou Corne sinkhole.

 

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/hdm.html

http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4165

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:


This story from Purdue is of interest for several
unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
accelerates nuclear decay rates.
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
 
ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html
A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be detected
or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount.

The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a massive
flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
neutrinos more active (absorbable)?
I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs).
To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced in
LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect to
charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
value."

 



RE: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, this is exactly the point. The solar neutrino rate does not vary
noticeably due to flares. Instead another kind of radiation precedes flares,
and is measureable on earth as accelerated decay rates. 

 

This new kind of radiation could possibly correspond to what Storms
describes. 

 

The radiation itself would not need to be measureable in its own right -
only its effect on the neutrino flux. Thus, the close analogy to the
Aharonov-Bohm effect.

 

From: David Roberson 

 

Jones, do you have an estimate of the actual per cent increase of the total
neutrino flux that occurs during a flare as compared to the normal flux?  I
would expect the increase to be virtually un measurable unless there is
something interesting going on within the Sun's center where copious amounts
of neutrinos are produced. 

 

Is a solar flare more than a very tiny disruption of the average solar
environment?

 

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene

 This story from Purdue is of interest for several
unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
accelerates nuclear decay rates. 
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html 
 A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be detected
or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount. 
 
 The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a massive
flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
neutrinos more active (absorbable)? 
 I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs). 
 To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced in
LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
 In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect to
charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
value."
 


Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jones,

I believe the Elliptical CMEs you see on the sun are made up of orbiting
dark matter around the nucleus of the sun, which is also dark matter.  They
trigger beta decay in their surroundings, breaking up the hydrogen into
protons, electrons and creating neutrinos.  The elliptical CME arc at the
sun is the same orbital arc the particles create on Earth while orbiting
and creating low pressure systems in the atmosphere and beta decay in the
Earth.  Hurricane Sandy was an orbiting particle with a mass of approx
1x10e17 kg.  Its beta decay triggered the large sinkhole in the Erie Canal
as did Hurricane Isaac particle and the Bayou Corne sinkhole.

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/hdm.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4165





On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:

>
> This story from Purdue is of interest for several
> unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
> Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
> accelerates nuclear decay rates.
>
> http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
> ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html
> A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
> neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be
> detected
> or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount.
>
> The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
> precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a
> massive
> flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
> anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
> finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
> neutrinos more active (absorbable)?
> I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
> the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
> sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs).
> To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
> flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
> absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
> radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced
> in
> LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
> corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
> In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
> effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect
> to
> charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
> QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
> seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
> preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
> value."
>
>


Re: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread David Roberson
Jones, do you have an estimate of the actual per cent increase of the total 
neutrino flux that occurs during a flare as compared to the normal flux?  I 
would expect the increase to be virtually un measurable unless there is 
something interesting going on within the Sun's center where copious amounts of 
neutrinos are produced.


Is a solar flare more than a very tiny disruption of the average solar 
environment?


Dave



-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 11:51 am
Subject: [Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?



This story from Purdue is of interest for several
unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
accelerates nuclear decay rates. 
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html 
A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be detected
or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount. 

The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a massive
flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
neutrinos more active (absorbable)? 
I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs). 
To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced in
LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect to
charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
value."


 


[Vo]:A clue about Storms' mystery radiation?

2012-11-19 Thread Jones Beene

This story from Purdue is of interest for several
unexplained energy phenomenon, including LENR and the recent disclosure of
Ed Storms. That disclosure is suggestive a hidden kind of radiation which
accelerates nuclear decay rates. 
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2012/Q3/new-system-could-predict-sol
ar-flares,-give-advance-warning.html 
A known variety of radiation which can alter decay rates is
neutrinos, except for the huge problem that neutrinos should not be detected
or absorbed in anywhere close to the needed amount. 

The undefined radiation is associated with solar flares but
precedes the flare. However, since neutrinos are always present in a massive
flux that is relatively independent of flares, but would not be absorbed in
anything like the proportions which are required to alter decay- does this
finding not specifically suggest a new kind of radiation which renders
neutrinos more active (absorbable)? 
I think that it does suggest this or something similar, but
the University Researchers involved will not go that far. (as Mel Brooks
sez: we have to protect our phony baloney jobs). 
To me, this finding suggests that the standard neutrino
flux, which is a given, can be modulated or altered somehow, so as to be
absorbed at many or orders of magnitude higher rates, when the mystery
radiation is present (compared to normal). That radiation can be produced in
LENR apparently, as well as in the solar corona. (note: the flare is a
corona feature, which is a bit different than a solar feature).
In short, this mystery radiation would operate like the A-B
effect - except with respect to the neutrino flux instead of with respect to
charged particles. It could even be called a neutrino Aharonov-Bohm effect.
QUOTE: Researchers have recorded data during 10 solar flares since 2006,
seeing the same pattern"We have repeatedly seen a precursor signal
preceding a solar flare," Fischbach said. "We think this has predictive
value."

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