[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

The problem is that demo_* must be carefully made not to allow users
to edit files (they are demo and must look the same to all users).
This would required a modified plugin_wiki.

On Nov 6, 9:17 pm, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to
> demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works.
>
> 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha 
>
> > what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers?
>
> >http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py
>
> > This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

good idea.

On Nov 6, 9:15 pm, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers?
>
> http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py
>
> This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

This link: [shell] http://web2py.com/demo_admin/shell/index/demo_app2 does
not work on demo_admin.

So, I think it is better to hide it from demo_apps or popup a message
"Disabled in demo mode"

Some people could think it is a bug.

(I am still trying to make the online shell to work as a try sandbox on GAE)

(Sorry for sending too much mails to this thread)

2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha 

> In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to
> demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works.
>
> 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha 
>
>> what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers?
>>
>> http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py
>>
>> This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to
demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works.

2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha 

> what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers?
>
> http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py
>
> This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality
>



-- 

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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers?

http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py

This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

I think it was mentioned a few times that orange is not very readable.
I tend to agree with that, too. Anyone else had that problem?

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> I like white background and neutral colors (like grey buttons, black
> header, etc.) and orange for links and edit buttons.
>
> On Nov 5, 11:38 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta  wrote:
>> > also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse
>> > trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it
>>
>> These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by
>> patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is
>> reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a
>> new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the
>> supercomputing conference presentation. ;)
>>
>> As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline
>> images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an
>> alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without
>> hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you
>> want.
>>
>> Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something
>> like this on mind:
>>
>> http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png
>>
>> Clean with just orange.  Another option would be a dark theme:
>>
>> http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg
>>
>> Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark
>> themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I
>> don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes
>> for a long time.
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I like white background and neutral colors (like grey buttons, black
header, etc.) and orange for links and edit buttons.

On Nov 5, 11:38 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta  wrote:
> > also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse
> > trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it
>
> These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by
> patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is
> reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a
> new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the
> supercomputing conference presentation. ;)
>
> As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline
> images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an
> alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without
> hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you
> want.
>
> Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something
> like this on mind:
>
> http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png
>
> Clean with just orange.  Another option would be a dark theme:
>
> http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg
>
> Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark
> themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I
> don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes
> for a long time.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

My vote is for a light-ish theme.

--
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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta  wrote:
> > also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse
> > trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it
>
> These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by
> patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is
> reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a
> new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the
> supercomputing conference presentation. ;)
>
> As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline
> images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an
> alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without
> hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you
> want.
>
> Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something
> like this on mind:
>
> http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png
>
> Clean with just orange.  Another option would be a dark theme:
>
> http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg
>
> Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark
> themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I
> don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes
> for a long time.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta  wrote:
> also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse
> trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it

These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by
patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is
reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a
new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the
supercomputing conference presentation. ;)

As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline
images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an
alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without
hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you
want.

Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something
like this on mind:

http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png

Clean with just orange.  Another option would be a dark theme:

http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg

Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark
themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I
don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes
for a long time.

-- 
Branko Vukelić

bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com

Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny

Gimp Brushmakers Guild
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[selecta]

I like the new design

small things:
in the online editor the save icon is quite different from the rest of
the simplistic icons, it confused me.
also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse
trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

The corners are way too rounded. Looks good!

--
Thadeus




On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Christopher Steel wrote:

> Nice work, looks great!
>
> I really like the flow that is starting to happen when resizing the
> browser window. Makes me want to try it from my iphone...
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Nov 1, 10:12 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
> >
> > Massimo
> >
> > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> >
> > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> >
> > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > > other people think?
> >
> > > > Massimo
> >
> > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Massimo,
> >
> > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files.
> Would
> > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's
> attached,
> > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > > > (icons).
> >
> > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll
> do
> > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
> >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea?
> Failing
> >
> > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > >  folder.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > > 21KViewDownload
> >
> >
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Christopher Steel]

Nice work, looks great!

I really like the flow that is starting to happen when resizing the
browser window. Makes me want to try it from my iphone...

Chris


On Nov 1, 10:12 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
>
> > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>
> > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>
> > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > other people think?
>
> > > Massimo
>
> > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > > > Massimo,
>
> > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > > (icons).
>
> > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
> > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
> > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > > --
> > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > >  folder.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > 21KViewDownload
>
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

The conference talk is not on web2py but I will run examples using
web2py. Because of that I would like to release 1.89.1 next week. That
does not prevent us from making any more changes later. Yet, I would
not like to release something that is very different from the previous
version and too far from definitive. It will confuse new users.

On Nov 4, 2:38 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> > Branko,
>
> > Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your
> > points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of
> > this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've
> > already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so
> > anything further is just icing on the cake.
>
> I've got word from Massimo that this has to be ready for the
> superocmputing 2010 presentation, so I won't go into anything
> intricate unless it's needed. I'll discuss with Massimo what the goals
> for the conference-worthiness might be. Cleaning up the HTML will be
> my primary goal, and then we'll get something done for the show.
>
> I've bookmarked this topic, and I'll most certainly come back to
> review it once we are done with superocmputing 2010. :)
>
> > Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I
>
> Well, yeah. The structured process would involve using the app for a
> while, and start with fixing the real problems. It's just like trying
> to develop something in web2py in order to see if everything works. If
> something really itches, ask for it to be scratched. If you can get
> used to it, and it works, then it's probably not a problem to begin
> with. And THEN we can talk about icing.
>
> For example, if you find yourself clicking the delete button over and
> over again, then you know for sure it's in a bad location. If it just
> doesn't agree with your sense of aesthetics, well, I'll make it
> prettier after the conference. :)
>
> > think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant
> > feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread
> > going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a
> > month from now after something is released. I suppose this could
> > change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it.
>
> Yes, we can think of a way, sure. Gimp guys have an UI brainstorm
> site, so we could probably make something like that for web2py.
> Collecting user stories (descriptions of how people use the app) would
> be most welcome, too. I've asked a few questions earlier in one of the
> topics, but never got a reply.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> Branko,
>
> Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your
> points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of
> this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've
> already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so
> anything further is just icing on the cake.

I've got word from Massimo that this has to be ready for the
superocmputing 2010 presentation, so I won't go into anything
intricate unless it's needed. I'll discuss with Massimo what the goals
for the conference-worthiness might be. Cleaning up the HTML will be
my primary goal, and then we'll get something done for the show.

I've bookmarked this topic, and I'll most certainly come back to
review it once we are done with superocmputing 2010. :)

> Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I

Well, yeah. The structured process would involve using the app for a
while, and start with fixing the real problems. It's just like trying
to develop something in web2py in order to see if everything works. If
something really itches, ask for it to be scratched. If you can get
used to it, and it works, then it's probably not a problem to begin
with. And THEN we can talk about icing.

For example, if you find yourself clicking the delete button over and
over again, then you know for sure it's in a bad location. If it just
doesn't agree with your sense of aesthetics, well, I'll make it
prettier after the conference. :)

> think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant
> feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread
> going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a
> month from now after something is released. I suppose this could
> change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it.

Yes, we can think of a way, sure. Gimp guys have an UI brainstorm
site, so we could probably make something like that for web2py.
Collecting user stories (descriptions of how people use the app) would
be most welcome, too. I've asked a few questions earlier in one of the
topics, but never got a reply.

-- 
Branko Vukelić

bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com

Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny

Gimp Brushmakers Guild
http://bit.ly/gbg-group

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Anthony]

Branko,

Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your
points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of
this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've
already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so
anything further is just icing on the cake.

Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I
think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant
feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread
going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a
month from now after something is released. I suppose this could
change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it.

Anthony

On Nov 4, 12:36 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than
> just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what
> works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never
> finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic
> design. Someone says "Wouldn't A be greater than B?" And we do A. Then
> someone else comes along and says "I liked B better than A." Yet
> another person comes up with "But have you guys seen C?" And we get a
> few "Let's do X like Z does!" Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The
> product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to
> release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be
> used for other issues...
>
> ...like the HTML?
>
> The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file
> lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much
> abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to
> time.  For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the
> in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you
> tell a difference between the  in tickets section, and the 
> within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits
> that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most
> block elements are omitted, and  is used for spacing. That's
> just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently
> inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do
> much more once HTML starts to make more sense.
>
> I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point
> is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then
> we can talk more design.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Point taken. If you feel you have the time to work a better html, I
fully support that.

On Nov 4, 11:36 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than
> just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what
> works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never
> finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic
> design. Someone says "Wouldn't A be greater than B?" And we do A. Then
> someone else comes along and says "I liked B better than A." Yet
> another person comes up with "But have you guys seen C?" And we get a
> few "Let's do X like Z does!" Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The
> product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to
> release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be
> used for other issues...
>
> ...like the HTML?
>
> The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file
> lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much
> abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to
> time.  For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the
> in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you
> tell a difference between the  in tickets section, and the 
> within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits
> that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most
> block elements are omitted, and  is used for spacing. That's
> just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently
> inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do
> much more once HTML starts to make more sense.
>
> I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point
> is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then
> we can talk more design.
>
> --
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>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> Point taken. If you feel you have the time to work a better html, I
> fully support that.

Great. :)

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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

There is a validation check but on a separate page. We can turn it
into a popup.

On Nov 4, 12:28 pm, Richard Vézina 
wrote:
> Since we are in this process.
>
> I would propose something, just a basic rule in design. I am not defending a
> point here.
>
> Having side by side edit and delete buttons is a bad design.
>
> 2 solutions :
>
> 1) Put a validation question on delete clic (ex.: would you really delete
> the file XX).
> 2) No validation = put the delete button somewhere else where the user will
> go just for this purpose.
>
> So no risk to delete a file inadvertently.
>
> I know there is the file.bak.
>
> Richard

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Richard Vézina]

Since we are in this process.

I would propose something, just a basic rule in design. I am not defending a
point here.

Having side by side edit and delete buttons is a bad design.

2 solutions :

1) Put a validation question on delete clic (ex.: would you really delete
the file XX).
2) No validation = put the delete button somewhere else where the user will
go just for this purpose.

So no risk to delete a file inadvertently.

I know there is the file.bak.

Richard

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than
just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what
works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never
finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic
design. Someone says "Wouldn't A be greater than B?" And we do A. Then
someone else comes along and says "I liked B better than A." Yet
another person comes up with "But have you guys seen C?" And we get a
few "Let's do X like Z does!" Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The
product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to
release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be
used for other issues...

...like the HTML?

The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file
lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much
abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to
time.  For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the
in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you
tell a difference between the  in tickets section, and the 
within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits
that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most
block elements are omitted, and  is used for spacing. That's
just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently
inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do
much more once HTML starts to make more sense.

I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point
is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then
we can talk more design.

-- 
Branko Vukelić

bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com

Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Anthony]

Looks good. A few comments:
- At least on my screen, the orange text on white background is a bit
too light for comfortable reading (the same text actually looks a bit
too dark in the header, though sounds like we might change that
anyway).
- Need to work on the behavior and labeling of the "collapse" button.
It currently works as a toggle that reverses the current state of each
section (i.e., whichever sections are expanded collapse, and whichever
are collapsed expand). It would probably be better to have "collapse
all" and "expand all" behavior instead (i.e., regardless of the
current state of each section). In that case, the button text should
switch from "collapse" to "expand".
- When I click one of the buttons at the top of the design view for a
section that is not currently expanded, I expect it to expand (and
jump to) that section -- but it doesn't do the expanding, which makes
it appear to be non-functional.
- The "test" icon looks like a "danger" icon. Is that icon commonly
used to indicate testing? Maybe consider alternatives, or at least
include a tooltip to make it clear.
- That's a lot of bold red X's. What about replacing the delete and
test icons with small light-background text buttons (i.e., smaller
than the edit button)? Might look a little lighter.
- In the file lists, maybe consider listing all the subfolders either
at the top or the bottom (i.e., like a typical file explorer) rather
than interspersed alphabetically with the files. Also, when expanded,
maybe indent a bit to make it easier to see which files are in the
subfolder.

Thanks.

Anthony


On Nov 3, 11:21 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
>    http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> (also in trunk)
>
> This is the older one
>
>    http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> My edits are:
> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> version)
> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> alignment is cleaner
> 4) moved all green links to right
>
> TODO:
> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> I really like this new admin.

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Martín Mulone]

+1 I just remove the header background with firebug, look very good without
the green.

For the submit button you can also use how is in the new welcome

input[type=submit], input[type=button], button {
margin: 0px;
/*width: 85px;*/
height: 22px;
background: #eaeaea;
color: #555;
border: 1px solid #dedede;
-moz-border-radius: 2px;
-webkit-border-radius: 2px;
border-radius: 2px;
}


2010/11/4 mdipierro 

> Just a tought...
>
> How about we make ALL sounded corners 3px and we use the button colors
> of stack overflow (edit in white/orange, site buttons in black/white,
> other buttons in white/gray)? We can also make the top bar gray as
> they do which is un-intrusive. We do not need a logo. People know
> where they are.
>
> Please no more changes to *.html (unless to fix bugs), only to
> style.css.
>
> Massimo
>
>
> On Nov 4, 7:18 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone 
> wrote:
> > > Thanks branko look very good.
> >
> > > Some little things
> >
> > > -less rounded in title headers?
> >
> > Maybe?
> >
> > > -the orange in "button edit" still killing my eyes?
> >
> > Maybe?
> >
> > > -"submit" button has no margins
> >
> > Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but
> > yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the
> > admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone
> > could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the
> > design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes
> > more pleasant to work with.
> >
> > > -Why not by default in edit => all collapsed ?
> >
> > Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening
> > the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too.
> >
> > > -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not
> > > getting well, you tried with font white ?
> >
> > Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway,
> > orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of
> > taste. Another "Maybe." Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to
> > wait for HTML to be reworked.
> >
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:07 AM, mdipierro wrote:
> 
> This was my mistake since I had to appply Branko's patch manuallay.
> Now fixed:
> 
> http://www.web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site

The scale of the buttons is good now. That's a lot better than it was.

But expand the page in Mac Safari (cmd+) and watch what happens to the compile 
button.

> 
> On Nov 4, 12:07 am, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
>> On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>> 
>> This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>  http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>> 
>>> (also in trunk)
>> 
>>> This is the older one
>> 
>>>  http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>> 
>>> My edits are:
>>> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
>>> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
>>> version)
>>> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
>>> alignment is cleaner
>>> 4) moved all green links to right
>> 
>>> TODO:
>>> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
>>> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>> 
>>> I really like this new admin.
>> 
>> 

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Just a tought...

How about we make ALL sounded corners 3px and we use the button colors
of stack overflow (edit in white/orange, site buttons in black/white,
other buttons in white/gray)? We can also make the top bar gray as
they do which is un-intrusive. We do not need a logo. People know
where they are.

Please no more changes to *.html (unless to fix bugs), only to
style.css.

Massimo


On Nov 4, 7:18 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone  
> wrote:
> > Thanks branko look very good.
>
> > Some little things
>
> > -less rounded in title headers?
>
> Maybe?
>
> > -the orange in "button edit" still killing my eyes?
>
> Maybe?
>
> > -"submit" button has no margins
>
> Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but
> yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the
> admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone
> could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the
> design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes
> more pleasant to work with.
>
> > -Why not by default in edit => all collapsed ?
>
> Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening
> the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too.
>
> > -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not
> > getting well, you tried with font white ?
>
> Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway,
> orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of
> taste. Another "Maybe." Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to
> wait for HTML to be reworked.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

This was my mistake since I had to appply Branko's patch manuallay.
Now fixed:

http://www.web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site

On Nov 4, 12:07 am, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
> This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> > (also in trunk)
>
> > This is the older one
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> > My edits are:
> > 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> > 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> > version)
> > 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> > alignment is cleaner
> > 4) moved all green links to right
>
> > TODO:
> > - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> > - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> > I really like this new admin.
>
>

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone  wrote:
> Thanks branko look very good.
>
> Some little things
>
> -less rounded in title headers?

Maybe?

> -the orange in "button edit" still killing my eyes?

Maybe?

> -"submit" button has no margins

Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but
yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the
admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone
could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the
design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes
more pleasant to work with.

> -Why not by default in edit => all collapsed ?

Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening
the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too.

> -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not
> getting well, you tried with font white ?

Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway,
orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of
taste. Another "Maybe." Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to
wait for HTML to be reworked.

-- 
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bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com

Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Martin.Mulone]

Thanks branko look very good.

Some little things

-less rounded in title headers?
-the orange in "button edit" still killing my eyes?
-"submit" button has no margins
-Why not by default in edit => all collapsed ?
-The font color in top menu orange with green background is not
getting well, you tried with font white ?

The appadmin is going to have the same theme no?.


On 4 nov, 02:07, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
> This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> > (also in trunk)
>
> > This is the older one
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> > My edits are:
> > 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> > 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> > version)
> > 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> > alignment is cleaner
> > 4) moved all green links to right
>
> > TODO:
> > - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> > - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> > I really like this new admin.

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote:
> 
> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):

This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. 

> 
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin
> 
> (also in trunk)
> 
> This is the older one
> 
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
> 
> My edits are:
> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> version)
> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> alignment is cleaner
> 4) moved all green links to right
> 
> TODO:
> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
> 
> I really like this new admin.

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

This is now better in trunk. Please check it there.

On Nov 3, 10:53 pm, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> in this 
> pagehttp://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/edit/demo_app1/controllers/defau...
>
> too much space used above the edit area, intead having 'save' and 'versions'
> below, this could be aside, or within a toggle/accordion space. space
> matters when editing files in admin.
>
> 2010/11/4 mdipierro 
>
>
>
> > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> > (also in trunk)
>
> > This is the older one
>
> >  http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> > My edits are:
> > 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> > 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> > version)
> > 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> > alignment is cleaner
> > 4) moved all green links to right
>
> > TODO:
> > - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> > - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> > I really like this new admin.
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

in this page
http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/edit/demo_app1/controllers/default.py

too much space used above the edit area, intead having 'save' and 'versions'
below, this could be aside, or within a toggle/accordion space. space
matters when editing files in admin.

2010/11/4 mdipierro 

> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> (also in trunk)
>
> This is the older one
>
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> My edits are:
> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> version)
> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> alignment is cleaner
> 4) moved all green links to right
>
> TODO:
> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> I really like this new admin.
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

The Edit button is pointing to /peek

2010/11/4 Bruno Rocha 

> I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the
> same rounded degree as buttons have.
>
>
>
> 2010/11/4 mdipierro 
>
> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>>
>>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>>
>> (also in trunk)
>>
>> This is the older one
>>
>>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>>
>> My edits are:
>> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
>> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
>> version)
>> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
>> alignment is cleaner
>> 4) moved all green links to right
>>
>> TODO:
>> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
>> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>>
>> I really like this new admin.
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the same
rounded degree as buttons have.



2010/11/4 mdipierro 

> Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):
>
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin
>
> (also in trunk)
>
> This is the older one
>
>   http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween
>
> My edits are:
> 1) I have made all edit buttons orange
> 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
> version)
> 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
> alignment is cleaner
> 4) moved all green links to right
>
> TODO:
> - I would prefer no shadow under icons.
> - Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.
>
> I really like this new admin.
>



-- 

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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me):

   http://web2py.com/demo_admin

(also in trunk)

This is the older one

   http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween

My edits are:
1) I have made all edit buttons orange
2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original
version)
3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since
alignment is cleaner
4) moved all green links to right

TODO:
- I would prefer no shadow under icons.
- Text like "No models" under design does not appear aligned properly.

I really like this new admin.

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[joeriks]

I'm new to Web2Py and like it a lot. I must say I was rather lost in
the admin UI at first. And still find it a bit slow to navigate
within. One thing I would like is to be able to have each section
(models/controllers/views et.c) on separate pages. In that case one
could easily open each one in a browser tab and switch between them
easily (with the tab named accordingly). I using that approach in
other web apps.

I like the bright greenish colors btw. :-)

Regards
Jonas Eriksson

On 3 Nov, 11:03, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Sorry, I meant more in the way of how it works, rather than how you
> like it. Since my initial idea was to solve the problem of
> readability, rather than just cosmetic.
>
> Once the whole template is done, we can discuss other aspects, sure.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Anthony  wrote:
> > OK, point taken. But you did specifically ask what people thought of
> > the color scheme. That's my answer (I don't like reddish oranges with
> > that green).
>
> > Anyway, I really appreciate all your efforts.
>
> > Best,
> > Anthony
>
> > On Nov 2, 6:58 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >> Bike shed![1]
>
> >> [1]http://bikeshed.com/
>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> >> > I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with
> >> > the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to
> >> > the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with 
> >> > oranges
> >> > that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow
> >> > (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color 
> >> > substitution in
> >> > the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the
> >> > shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a 
> >> > little
> >> > better to me.
>
> >> > Anthony
>
> >> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> >> From: Branko Vukelic 
> >> >> Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm
> >> >> Subject: new admin layout
> >> >> To: web2py-users
>
> >> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> >> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> >> >> and pieces.
>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>
> >> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> >> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> >> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> >> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> >> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Branko Vukelić
>
> >> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> >> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> >> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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>
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>
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> >> >> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Sorry, I meant more in the way of how it works, rather than how you
like it. Since my initial idea was to solve the problem of
readability, rather than just cosmetic.

Once the whole template is done, we can discuss other aspects, sure.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Anthony  wrote:
> OK, point taken. But you did specifically ask what people thought of
> the color scheme. That's my answer (I don't like reddish oranges with
> that green).
>
> Anyway, I really appreciate all your efforts.
>
> Best,
> Anthony
>
>
> On Nov 2, 6:58 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> Bike shed![1]
>>
>> [1]http://bikeshed.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony  wrote:
>> > I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with
>> > the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to
>> > the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges
>> > that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow
>> > (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution 
>> > in
>> > the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the
>> > shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little
>> > better to me.
>>
>> > Anthony
>>
>> >> -- Forwarded message --
>> >> From: Branko Vukelic 
>> >> Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm
>> >> Subject: new admin layout
>> >> To: web2py-users
>>
>> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
>> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
>> >> and pieces.
>>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
>> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>>
>> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
>> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
>> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
>> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
>> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Branko Vukelić
>>
>> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> >> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> >> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> >> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> >> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
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>> >> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>> >> --
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>>
>> >> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> >> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> >> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> >> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[annet]

Yes, especially when you have a look at how this thread started ...
LOL


Kind regards,

Annet

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

LOL. How true.

On Nov 2, 5:58 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Bike shed![1]
>
> [1]http://bikeshed.com/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> > I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with
> > the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to
> > the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges
> > that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow
> > (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in
> > the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the
> > shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little
> > better to me.
>
> > Anthony
>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: Branko Vukelic 
> >> Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm
> >> Subject: new admin layout
> >> To: web2py-users
>
> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> >> and pieces.
>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>
> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Branko Vukelić
>
> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> >> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> >> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> >> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> >> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> >> --
> >> Branko Vukelić
>
> >> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> >> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> >> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Anthony]

OK, point taken. But you did specifically ask what people thought of
the color scheme. That's my answer (I don't like reddish oranges with
that green).

Anyway, I really appreciate all your efforts.

Best,
Anthony


On Nov 2, 6:58 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Bike shed![1]
>
> [1]http://bikeshed.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> > I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with
> > the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to
> > the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges
> > that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow
> > (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in
> > the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the
> > shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little
> > better to me.
>
> > Anthony
>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: Branko Vukelic 
> >> Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm
> >> Subject: new admin layout
> >> To: web2py-users
>
> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> >> and pieces.
>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>
> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Branko Vukelić
>
> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> >> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> >> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> >> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> >> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> >> --
> >> Branko Vukelić
>
> >> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> >> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> >> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
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> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Bike shed![1]

[1] http://bikeshed.com/

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with
> the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to
> the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges
> that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow
> (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in
> the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the
> shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little
> better to me.
>
> Anthony
>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Branko Vukelic 
>> Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm
>> Subject: new admin layout
>> To: web2py-users
>>
>>
>> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
>> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
>> and pieces.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
>> > wrote:
>> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
>> >> this as simple as spossible.
>>
>> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
>> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
>> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
>> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
>> > what you're looking for with ease.
>>
>> > --
>> > Branko Vukelić
>>
>> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
>> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Anthony  wrote:
> I'm not sure I like the filenames inside buttons, especially such dark
> buttons. It ends up looking very stark and heavy. It's not too bad
> with just the 3 files in this mockup, but may be a bit much when
> viewing a full page with dozens of files listed. I think the filenames
> may look better as just text -- but then you have to worry about the
> icons looking too prominent relative to the filenames. I think the
> problem there was not just icon size, but the fact that they're so
> colorful and really grab your attention. To really get a handle on
> this, it may help to see what a full page of filenames/icons looks
> like -- what looks good in this abbreviated mockup may get annoying
> when covering a full screen.

Yes, we'll see how it goes after this is implemented, and we can then
adjust. It's a matter of removing or changing a few classes here and
there, so it's not an expensive experiment. A lighter background color
is also an option I'm considering.

> Also, should we slightly indent files that are in a subfolder when the
> folder is expanded?

I don't think so. Since the leading directory name is not a button, it
will look indented anyway.


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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Anthony]

I'm not sure I like the filenames inside buttons, especially such dark
buttons. It ends up looking very stark and heavy. It's not too bad
with just the 3 files in this mockup, but may be a bit much when
viewing a full page with dozens of files listed. I think the filenames
may look better as just text -- but then you have to worry about the
icons looking too prominent relative to the filenames. I think the
problem there was not just icon size, but the fact that they're so
colorful and really grab your attention. To really get a handle on
this, it may help to see what a full page of filenames/icons looks
like -- what looks good in this abbreviated mockup may get annoying
when covering a full screen.

Also, should we slightly indent files that are in a subfolder when the
folder is expanded?

Anthony

On Nov 2, 5:12 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because
> > these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make
> > them smaller.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:31 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> I am ok with this but not too may icons I guess iconds for folder,
> edit, delete are ok. If we have more icons we may need tooltips to
> explain them.

As far as I can see, those are the only icons we need at this time.
Maybe later I might do icons for "database", "modules", "controllers",
etc, but that's purely cosmetic.


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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I am ok with this but not too may icons I guess iconds for folder,
edit, delete are ok. If we have more icons we may need tooltips to
explain them.



On Nov 2, 4:12 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because
> > these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make
> > them smaller.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
>  alt_mockup_files2.png
> 39KViewDownload

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because
> these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make
> them smaller.



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because
these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make
them smaller.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:02 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> I like it but, I prefer lines to gradients. gradients look like dirt
> on some browsers.
> Also please make the icons smaller and do not use fonts that exceed
> 16px, except for perhaps the logo.
> Big fonts push everything down and things are less likely to fit in a
> page.
>
> On Nov 2, 2:55 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more
>> interested in feedback about the colors alone. :)
>>
>> What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or
>> something else?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
>> > I Like it better than the orange/brown one
>> > I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better 
>> > if
>> > can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller.
>>
>> > 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 
>>
>> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
>> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
>> >> and pieces.
>>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
>> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>>
>> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
>> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
>> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
>> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
>> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>>
>> >> > --
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>>
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>> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
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>>
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I like it but, I prefer lines to gradients. gradients look like dirt
on some browsers.
Also please make the icons smaller and do not use fonts that exceed
16px, except for perhaps the logo.
Big fonts push everything down and things are less likely to fit in a
page.

On Nov 2, 2:55 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more
> interested in feedback about the colors alone. :)
>
> What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or
> something else?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> > I Like it better than the orange/brown one
> > I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if
> > can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller.
>
> > 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 
>
> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> >> and pieces.
>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
>
> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Branko Vukelić
>
> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> >> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Martín Mulone]

For me this last mockup look really nice.

2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 

> Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon
> size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I
> want.
>
> Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should
> make it easier to click.
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Thadeus Burgess 
> wrote:
> > Smaller icons, or bigger text.
> >
> > --
> > Thadeus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha 
> wrote:
> >> > I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this
> will
> >> > be
> >> > unique for opened and closed folders.
> >>
> >> Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that
> >> is used for major application layers, and applications themselves.
> >>
> >> > if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an
> >> > opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes.
> >> > I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of
> >> > web2py
> >> > main site.
> >>
> >> That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add
> >> comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow
> >> that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would
> >> help me align myself with your line of thought.
> >>
> >> Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list.
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon
size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I
want.

Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should
make it easier to click.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
> Smaller icons, or bigger text.
>
> --
> Thadeus
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
>> > I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will
>> > be
>> > unique for opened and closed folders.
>>
>> Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that
>> is used for major application layers, and applications themselves.
>>
>> > if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an
>> > opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes.
>> > I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of
>> > web2py
>> > main site.
>>
>> That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add
>> comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow
>> that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would
>> help me align myself with your line of thought.
>>
>> Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list.
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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>
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

Smaller icons, or bigger text.

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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> > I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will
> be
> > unique for opened and closed folders.
>
> Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that
> is used for major application layers, and applications themselves.
>
> > if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an
> > opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes.
> > I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of
> web2py
> > main site.
>
> That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add
> comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow
> that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would
> help me align myself with your line of thought.
>
> Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be
> unique for opened and closed folders.

Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that
is used for major application layers, and applications themselves.

> if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an
> opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes.
> I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py
> main site.

That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add
comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow
that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would
help me align myself with your line of thought.

Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list.

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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be
unique for opened and closed folders.

if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an
opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes.

I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py
main site.

2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 

> Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more
> interested in feedback about the colors alone. :)
>
> What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or
> something else?
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> > I Like it better than the orange/brown one
> > I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better
> if
> > can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller.
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 
> >>
> >> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> >> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> >> and pieces.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> >> this as simple as spossible.
> >> >
> >> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> >> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> >> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> >> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> >> > what you're looking for with ease.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Branko Vukelić
> >> >
> >> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> >> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >> >
> >> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> >> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Branko Vukelić
> >>
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> >> stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >>
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> >
>
>
>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

This is much better. Not sure about the gradient on the apps listing
however.

Try some more subtle rounded corners?

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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:

> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> and pieces.
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> wrote:
> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> this as simple as spossible.
> >
> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> > what you're looking for with ease.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more
interested in feedback about the colors alone. :)

What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or
something else?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> I Like it better than the orange/brown one
> I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if
> can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller.
>
>
> 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 
>>
>> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
>> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
>> and pieces.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
>> > wrote:
>> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
>> >> this as simple as spossible.
>> >
>> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
>> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
>> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
>> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
>> > what you're looking for with ease.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> > http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
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>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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>
>
>
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>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

I Like it better than the orange/brown one

I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if
can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller.



2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic 

> What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors
> that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits
> and pieces.
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro 
> wrote:
> >> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> >> this as simple as spossible.
> >
> > I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
> > text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
> > lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
> > end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
> > what you're looking for with ease.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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> >
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> > http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
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>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
> this as simple as spossible.

I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold
text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a
lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the
end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find
what you're looking for with ease.


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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need
this as simple as spossible.

On Nov 2, 11:54 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina
>
>  wrote:
> > I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary
> > color.
>
> The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for
> the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the
> underlying functionality too much.
>
> If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I
> have some ideas, too.
>
> > The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space
> > to display essentially the same content.
>
> Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern?
>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Richard Vézina]

I just note that the font weight of the text is bolder then it was and It
use that way more screen space.

Richard

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina
>  wrote:
> > I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google =
> elementary
> > color.
>
> The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for
> the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the
> underlying functionality too much.
>
> If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I
> have some ideas, too.
>
> > The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen
> space
> > to display essentially the same content.
>
> Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern?
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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>
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>

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina
 wrote:
> I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary
> color.

The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for
the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the
underlying functionality too much.

If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I
have some ideas, too.

> The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space
> to display essentially the same content.

Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern?

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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Richard Vézina]

Maybe we could have a button to select old school layout???

I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary
color.

The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space
to display essentially the same content.

Nice initiative.

Richard

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:37 AM, mdipierro  wrote:

> :-)
>
>
> On Nov 2, 9:25 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro 
> wrote:
> > > Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant
> > > goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original
> > > version) we just reworked the css.
> >
> > Ok.
> >
> > > Things we should like:
> > > * background and rounded corner around them
> >
> > What do you mean by 'background'?
> >
> > > @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background)
> > > I think most people will like it better.
> >
> > Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only
> > requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for
> > something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely
> > improve UX.
> >
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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> >
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>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

:-)


On Nov 2, 9:25 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> > Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant
> > goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original
> > version) we just reworked the css.
>
> Ok.
>
> > Things we should like:
> > * background and rounded corner around them
>
> What do you mean by 'background'?
>
> > @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background)
> > I think most people will like it better.
>
> Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only
> requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for
> something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely
> improve UX.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant
> goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original
> version) we just reworked the css.

Ok.

> Things we should like:
> * background and rounded corner around them

What do you mean by 'background'?

> @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background)
> I think most people will like it better.

Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only
requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for
something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely
improve UX.


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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant
goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original
version) we just reworked the css.

Things we should like:
* background and rounded corner around them
* white background except for boxes in /site
* more soft colors
* edit links in different color than other links/buttons
* a folder icon in the same place where it is now.

@Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background)
I think most people will like it better.



On Nov 2, 4:51 am, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Marko  wrote:
> > I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color
> > backgrounds, quite heavy ...
>
> Yes, I agree to this as well (despite the fact that I proposed it
> myself). I'll keep working on this, so I'm sure we'll reach a solution
> that most of you feel happy about.
>
> I have some questions first (for now regarding only the site and design 
> views).
>
> 1. How often do you use the "exposes" functionality (the links that is)?
> 2. How often do you click on web2py logo in the upper left corner to
> visit the web2py homepage?
> 3. How often do you use the jump-to links in the design page (the ones
> that list the section names in upper right corner)?
> 4. Would you have anything hidden by default?
>
> Please answer the above questions before reading on.
>
> My ideas are these:
>
> * Loose the header altogether and keep the tabs only. The tabs would
> be simple buttons that highlight when you visit an appropriate
> section.
> * Add a large button in upper left corner that does different things
> depending on context. For example, in design view, it goes to the site
> view, in site view, it does nothing, in edit view, it goes to design
> view... etc (in any case we can discuss what this button will do)
> * Hide 'exposes' (slide it up or somehow tuck it in)
> * Reorganize the file list so it's easier to navigate
> * Add searching functionality to the file lists (I actually have a
> very cool solution that won't require any hacking of the template
> except adding a text input box.
> * Collapse app sections by default.
> * And yeah, maybe keep the main area white.
>
> I'll also work on an alternative color scheme. I thought black-orange
> was a done deal, so I stuck to it, but if I can change it, it'd be
> great.
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Marko  wrote:
> I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color
> backgrounds, quite heavy ...

Yes, I agree to this as well (despite the fact that I proposed it
myself). I'll keep working on this, so I'm sure we'll reach a solution
that most of you feel happy about.

I have some questions first (for now regarding only the site and design views).

1. How often do you use the "exposes" functionality (the links that is)?
2. How often do you click on web2py logo in the upper left corner to
visit the web2py homepage?
3. How often do you use the jump-to links in the design page (the ones
that list the section names in upper right corner)?
4. Would you have anything hidden by default?

Please answer the above questions before reading on.

My ideas are these:

* Loose the header altogether and keep the tabs only. The tabs would
be simple buttons that highlight when you visit an appropriate
section.
* Add a large button in upper left corner that does different things
depending on context. For example, in design view, it goes to the site
view, in site view, it does nothing, in edit view, it goes to design
view... etc (in any case we can discuss what this button will do)
* Hide 'exposes' (slide it up or somehow tuck it in)
* Reorganize the file list so it's easier to navigate
* Add searching functionality to the file lists (I actually have a
very cool solution that won't require any hacking of the template
except adding a text input box.
* Collapse app sections by default.
* And yeah, maybe keep the main area white.

I'll also work on an alternative color scheme. I thought black-orange
was a done deal, so I stuck to it, but if I can change it, it'd be
great.

-- 
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stu...@brankovukelic.com

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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[David Marko]

I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color
backgrounds, quite heavy ...

David

On 2 lis, 08:25, annet  wrote:
> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>
> That's what I thought, so I agree with Thadeus.
>
> Annet.

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[annet]

> I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
> same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.

That's what I thought, so I agree with Thadeus.


Annet.

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Anthony]

First, thank you to Branko and whoever created the first version of
the new layout from earlier today. These are great ideas and really
helping to move web2py to a more updated look. I think this is a real
improvement over the previous admin layout, though perhaps not quite
ready as is. Some comments:

- I think it looks better if we can keep most of the background white
instead of these massive blocks of gray. The first new layout from
earlier today looked better in that regard, though the orange text on
white background was a bit hard to read, and I wasn't crazy about the
gray buttons (at least in some places).

- We could also perhaps do without the black heading bars, though if
we keep them, they would look less stark if they were closer to the
color of the page header (i.e., more of a "carbon" color).

- The orange buttons with white text look fine when there's just one
or two in isolation, but large groups of them bunched together starts
to look a bit overwhelming.

- On the edit application page, the file names should be focal, but
they are now the least prominent elements, with all the edit and
delete buttons standing out instead (since edit and delete are
repeated for every file, there's no reason for them to be so
prominent).

- Due to lack of border-radius support, the buttons don't look that
great in IE (not too big a deal, but in case anyone cares).

Thanks.

Anthony

On Nov 1, 11:30 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> For now the only decision we need to make is whether this is better
> than the one we had until a day ago. Because if I need to revert, I'd
> prefer to do it before there are more changes to the code.
>
> It does not need to be a long term solution.
>
> What kind of changes would you like to see?
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 10:17 pm, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
>
> > > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the 
> > > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>
> > I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. 
> > I'm with Thadeus on the "everything looks exactly the same" problem. (And 
> > I'm a Giants fan...)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

worth a try to change it for greenish color scheme, following main site
http://web2py.com/

brown -> darkGreen
orange -> lightGreen
black -> gray

Keeping the same objects, buttons and boxes (I like buttons more than links)


2010/11/2 Thadeus Burgess 

> The version web2py has had for over a year.
>
> The new one is busy/confusing. I didn't know where to look at first glance.
> It feels Halloween-ish... I halfway expect a pumpkin somewhere on the page.
>
> There are too many "buttons" which are actually "hyperlinks".
>
> Sooo many buttons
>
> --
> Thadeus
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
>
>> Thadeus,
>>
>> Why more busy?
>>
>> There are no more links/text that before but while before links were
>> separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which
>> prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a
>> different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they
>> same). Branko added the folder icons.
>>
>> As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder
>> icons.
>>
>> By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version
>> available until yesterday?
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>> On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
>> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly
>> the
>> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thadeus
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro 
>> wrote:
>> > > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
>> >
>> > > Massimo
>> >
>> > > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
>> > > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>> >
>> > > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
>> > > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What
>> do
>> > > > > other people think?
>> >
>> > > > > Massimo
>> >
>> > > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > Massimo,
>> >
>> > > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files.
>> Would
>> > > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's
>> attached,
>> > > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary
>> assets
>> > > > > > (icons).
>> >
>> > > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work.
>> I'll
>> > > do
>> > > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>> >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic <
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
>> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea?
>> Failing
>> >
>> > > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>> >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> > > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder_current.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder_sm.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  heading_bg.png
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  new_admin.diff
>> > > > > > 21KViewDownload
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>


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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

The version web2py has had for over a year.

The new one is busy/confusing. I didn't know where to look at first glance.
It feels Halloween-ish... I halfway expect a pumpkin somewhere on the page.

There are too many "buttons" which are actually "hyperlinks".

Sooo many buttons

--
Thadeus




On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM, mdipierro  wrote:

> Thadeus,
>
> Why more busy?
>
> There are no more links/text that before but while before links were
> separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which
> prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a
> different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they
> same). Branko added the folder icons.
>
> As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder
> icons.
>
> By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version
> available until yesterday?
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
> >
> > --
> > Thadeus
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro 
> wrote:
> > > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
> >
> > > Massimo
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> > > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
> >
> > > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> >
> > > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > > > other people think?
> >
> > > > > Massimo
> >
> > > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Massimo,
> >
> > > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files.
> Would
> > > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's
> attached,
> > > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary
> assets
> > > > > > (icons).
> >
> > > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work.
> I'll
> > > do
> > > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
> >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> bg.bra...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea?
> Failing
> >
> > > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
> >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > > >  folder.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > > > 21KViewDownload
> >
> >
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

For now the only decision we need to make is whether this is better
than the one we had until a day ago. Because if I need to revert, I'd
prefer to do it before there are more changes to the code.

It does not need to be a long term solution.

What kind of changes would you like to see?

Massimo

On Nov 1, 10:17 pm, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
>
> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the 
> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>
> I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm 
> with Thadeus on the "everything looks exactly the same" problem. (And I'm a 
> Giants fan...)

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
> I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the 
> same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.

I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm 
with Thadeus on the "everything looks exactly the same" problem. (And I'm a 
Giants fan...)

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

"Collapse" on the top menu, should change for 'Expand' when collapsed

2010/11/2 Bruno Rocha 

> I think this "Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I
> would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose
> that as my admin theme.
>
> 2010/11/2 mdipierro 
>
> Thadeus,
>>
>> Why more busy?
>>
>> There are no more links/text that before but while before links were
>> separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which
>> prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a
>> different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they
>> same). Branko added the folder icons.
>>
>> As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder
>> icons.
>>
>> By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version
>> available until yesterday?
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>> On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
>> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly
>> the
>> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thadeus
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro 
>> wrote:
>> > > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
>> >
>> > > Massimo
>> >
>> > > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
>> > > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>> >
>> > > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
>> > > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What
>> do
>> > > > > other people think?
>> >
>> > > > > Massimo
>> >
>> > > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > Massimo,
>> >
>> > > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files.
>> Would
>> > > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's
>> attached,
>> > > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary
>> assets
>> > > > > > (icons).
>> >
>> > > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work.
>> I'll
>> > > do
>> > > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>> >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic <
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
>> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea?
>> Failing
>> >
>> > > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>> >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> > > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder_current.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  folder_sm.gif
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  heading_bg.png
>> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>> >
>> > > > > >  new_admin.diff
>> > > > > > 21KViewDownload
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

I think this "Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I
would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose
that as my admin theme.

2010/11/2 mdipierro 

> Thadeus,
>
> Why more busy?
>
> There are no more links/text that before but while before links were
> separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which
> prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a
> different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they
> same). Branko added the folder icons.
>
> As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder
> icons.
>
> By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version
> available until yesterday?
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
> > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
> > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
> >
> > --
> > Thadeus
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro 
> wrote:
> > > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
> >
> > > Massimo
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> > > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
> >
> > > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> >
> > > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > > > other people think?
> >
> > > > > Massimo
> >
> > > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Massimo,
> >
> > > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files.
> Would
> > > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's
> attached,
> > > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary
> assets
> > > > > > (icons).
> >
> > > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work.
> I'll
> > > do
> > > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
> >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> bg.bra...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea?
> Failing
> >
> > > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
> >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > > >  folder.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > > > 21KViewDownload
> >
> >
>



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http://rochacbruno.com.br

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Thadeus,

Why more busy?

There are no more links/text that before but while before links were
separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which
prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a
different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they
same). Branko added the folder icons.

As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder
icons.

By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version
available until yesterday?

Massimo

On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess  wrote:
> I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
> same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.
>
> --
> Thadeus
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> > > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>
> > > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>
> > > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > > other people think?
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > > > > Massimo,
>
> > > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > > > (icons).
>
> > > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll
> > do
> > > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > > >  folder.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > > 21KViewDownload
>
>

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

Is it hard to have a Dropdown to select a desired theme?


2010/11/2 Luis Díaz 

> As I think I prefer the old style
>
> --
> Díaz Luis
> TSU Analisis de Sistemas
> Universidad de Carabobo
>
> http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/
> Facultad de 
> Odontología
>
>


-- 

http://rochacbruno.com.br

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Luis Díaz]

As I think I prefer the old style

-- 
Díaz Luis
TSU Analisis de Sistemas
Universidad de Carabobo

http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/
Facultad de 
Odontología

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Thadeus Burgess]

I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the
same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are.

--
Thadeus




On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro  wrote:

> I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> > Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
> >
> > On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> >
> > > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > > other people think?
> >
> > > Massimo
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >
> > > > Massimo,
> >
> > > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > > (icons).
> >
> > > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll
> do
> > > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
> >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic <
> bg.bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
> >
> > > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
> > > >  folder.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  folder_current.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  heading_bg.png
> > > > < 1KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  new_admin.diff
> > > > 21KViewDownload
> >
> >
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections.

Massimo

On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>
> On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>
> > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > other people think?
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > > Massimo,
>
> > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > (icons).
>
> > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
> > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > --
> > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > >  folder.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  folder_current.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  heading_bg.png
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  new_admin.diff
> > > 21KViewDownload
>
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

Here it is in demo mode:

http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site


On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"  wrote:
> Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.
>
> On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
>
> > For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> > minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> > other people think?
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > > Massimo,
>
> > > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > > (icons).
>
> > > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
> > > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > > --
> > > Branko Vukelić
>
> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > > Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> > >  folder.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  folder_current.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  folder_sm.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  heading_bg.png
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  new_admin.diff
> > > 21KViewDownload
>
>

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mr.freeze]

Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it.

On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro  wrote:
> For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
> minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
> other people think?
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > Massimo,
>
> > So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> > the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> > so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> > (icons).
>
> > It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
> > that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  
> > > wrote:
> > >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > > --
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>
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> > > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
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>
> > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
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>
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
>
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some
minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do
other people think?

Massimo

On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Massimo,
>
> So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
> the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
> so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
> (icons).
>
> It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
> that some other time, though. Too tired now.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> >> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> > I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
>
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
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> < 1KViewDownload
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> < 1KViewDownload
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Massimo,

So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would
the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached,
so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets
(icons).

It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do
that some other time, though. Too tired now.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
>
> I meant the 'Browse' button.
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing

I meant the 'Browse' button.


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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
> and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button".

Actually, most form controls on Ubuntu ARE rounded by default. :P

Anyway, I've implemented some 60% of the template. I really don't know
how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing
that, I'd have to leave text input boxes intact as well, so at least
everything looks consistent.

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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Oh, damn. My fingers faster than brain. Ok, I get it.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Is this snippet:
>
> {{if a==request.application:}}
>
> used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe
> between binary and source apps?
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
>>> It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
>>> and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button".
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
 I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
 well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.



 On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
 > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
 >> I like it better than the last.
 >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
 >> button:

 >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
 >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
 >> 3px;}

 >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
 >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
 >> 3px;}

 >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar

 > Yah, that's much nicer.

 > --
 > Branko Vukelić

 > bg.bra...@gmail.com
 > stu...@brankovukelic.com

 > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
 > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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 stu...@brankovukelic.com

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  admin_mockup.png
 230KViewDownload
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
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>>
>> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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>
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>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Is this snippet:

{{if a==request.application:}}

used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe
between binary and source apps?

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
>> It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
>> and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button".
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>>> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
>>> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
>>> >> I like it better than the last.
>>> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
>>> >> button:
>>>
>>> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
>>> >> 3px;}
>>>
>>> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
>>> >> 3px;}
>>>
>>> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>>>
>>> > Yah, that's much nicer.
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > Branko Vukelić
>>>
>>> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>>> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>>
>>> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>>> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>>> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>>> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>>
>>> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>>> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>>
>>> --
>>> Branko Vukelić
>>>
>>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>>
>>> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>>> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>>> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>>> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>>
>>> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>>
>>>  admin_mockup.png
>>> 230KViewDownload
>
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>



-- 
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro  wrote:
> It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
> and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button".
>
> On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
>> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
>> >> I like it better than the last.
>> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
>> >> button:
>>
>> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
>> >> 3px;}
>>
>> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
>> >> 3px;}
>>
>> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>>
>> > Yah, that's much nicer.
>>
>> > --
>> > Branko Vukelić
>>
>> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
>> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
>> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>>  admin_mockup.png
>> 230KViewDownload



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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button".

On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> >> I like it better than the last.
> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> >> button:
>
> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
>
> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
>
> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>
> > Yah, that's much nicer.
>
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
>
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
>  admin_mockup.png
> 230KViewDownload

[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[mdipierro]

I like this can you send me a patch that implements it.

It is important that admin, welcome, examples look different and not
the same. Even if the difference is just in the colors. This is
because new users may get confused on which is which.

massimo

On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> >> I like it better than the last.
> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> >> button:
>
> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
>
> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
>
> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>
> > Yah, that's much nicer.
>
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
>
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> >http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
>
>  admin_mockup.png
> 230KViewDownload

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

and, if web2py keeps the actual logo, this sticker
http://www.web2py.com/examples/static/img/Stickers5.png
can be used in the top/bottom of  /admin

2010/11/1 Bruno Rocha 

> It remembers the Ubuntu "Human" style, while ubuntu is chaging for some
> kind of "purple' theme, web2py can take "human" for admin, scaffold and etc
>
> 2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic 
>
> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
>> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic 
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
>> >> I like it better than the last.
>> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
>> >> button:
>> >>
>> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
>> >> 3px;}
>> >>
>> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
>> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
>> >> 3px;}
>> >>
>> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>> >
>> > Yah, that's much nicer.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Branko Vukelić
>> >
>> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
>> >
>> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> > I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>> >
>> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> > http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Branko Vukelić
>>
>> bg.bra...@gmail.com
>> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>>
>> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
>> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
>> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>>
>> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
>> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://rochacbruno.com.br
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

It remembers the Ubuntu "Human" style, while ubuntu is chaging for some kind
of "purple' theme, web2py can take "human" for admin, scaffold and etc

2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic 

> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> >> I like it better than the last.
> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> >> button:
> >>
> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
> >>
> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
> >>
> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
> >
> > Yah, that's much nicer.
> >
> >
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> > Branko Vukelić
> >
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> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
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> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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> >
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> > http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
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>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

WOW! Great! may be "welcome" app could be changed in the same way!

2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic 

> I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
> well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> >> I like it better than the last.
> >> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> >> button:
> >>
> >> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
> >>
> >> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> >> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> >> 3px;}
> >>
> >> #302D25 is the color of the top bar
> >
> > Yah, that's much nicer.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
> >
> > bg.bra...@gmail.com
> > stu...@brankovukelic.com
> >
> > Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> > Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> > I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
> >
> > Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> > http://bit.ly/gbg-group
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Bruno Rocha]

I Like it! much better than the old one, I agree that orange text is
difficult to read, orange fonts are working great in brown background, but
in white background brown fonts will work better.



2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic 

> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> > I like it better than the last.
> > I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> > button:
> >
> > -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> > height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> > 3px;}
> >
> > ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> > height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
> > 3px;}
> >
> > #302D25 is the color of the top bar
>
> Yah, that's much nicer.
>
>
> --
> Branko Vukelić
>
> bg.bra...@gmail.com
> stu...@brankovukelic.com
>
> Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
> Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
> Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/)
> I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny
>
> Gimp Brushmakers Guild
> http://bit.ly/gbg-group
>



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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Branko Vukelic]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose  wrote:
> I like it better than the last.
> I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
> button:
>
> -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> 3px;}
>
> ++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
> height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius:
> 3px;}
>
> #302D25 is the color of the top bar

Yah, that's much nicer.


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[web2py] Re: new admin layout

[Jose]

I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:

-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}

++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}

#302D25 is the color of the top bar

Jose