Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the 
ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.

UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


> MTI is damn good quality.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
>> I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
>> over.  Pays 10X in the long run.
>>
>> I prefer goo quality. :)
>>
>> I'll give it a look to be sure.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeremie Chism"
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
>> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
>>> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
>>> equipment that I don't have to go back to.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West">> micro.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
>>>> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
>>>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
>>>> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
>>>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
>>>> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
>>>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
>>>> quality if it's deserved.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Bob-
>>>>
>>>> The cheap SOB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Mike Hammett]

MTI is damn good quality.


-
Mike Hammett
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On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
> I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
> over.  Pays 10X in the long run.
>
> I prefer goo quality. :)
>
> I'll give it a look to be sure.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremie Chism"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
>
>> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
>> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
>> equipment that I don't have to go back to.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"> micro.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
>>> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
>>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
>>> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
>>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
>>> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>>>
>>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
>>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
>>> quality if it's deserved.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>> The cheap SOB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Tom DeReggi]

I'd argue that the Yagis would not have a narrow enough verticle beamwidth, 
and Downtilt would be hard to get right, and/or to much energy wasted 
getting directed in the wrong verticle directions, thus being less efficent 
than a panel. But I guess it would depend on the needs of where deploying.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


It's canopy - 8mhz channels.  He is using ONE radio for all three antennas.

Works like an omni and does a good job.

On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or
> not either.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz
> H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
> doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage
> with
>> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>>
>> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
>> on
>> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
>> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
>> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>
>> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
>> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
>> love
>>
>> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer...
> 1)
>> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar 
>> gain.
>> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
>> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
>> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
>> is
>>
>> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the
> ground
>> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>>
>> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
>> in
>>
>> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
>> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI 
>> antenna,
>> they really serve two different market segments.
>>
>> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
>> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
>> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
>> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the
> MTI
>> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
>> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>>
>> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
>> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop 
>> on
>> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats 
>> easy
>> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
>> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
>> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. 
>> I
>> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again,

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Tom DeReggi]

I'd advise against Yagi's as APs if you live anywhere there is even minor 
ICE buildup.
The last thing you want is your network going down every time there is 
freezing rain, when the antennas are up a tower.

Also more likely the Crows will use your Yagi as their hangout sitting spot.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz 
H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage 
> with
> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>
> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
> on
> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
> love
>
> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 
> 1)
> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
> is
>
> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the 
> ground
> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>
> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
> in
>
> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
> they really serve two different market segments.
>
> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the 
> MTI
> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>
> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
> (Thats
>
> not exact db spec)
>
> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>
> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal
> seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation 
> between
> each antenna.
>
> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the
> other
>
> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made
> that
>
> possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varyin

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Josh Luthman]

It's canopy - 8mhz channels.  He is using ONE radio for all three antennas.

Works like an omni and does a good job.

On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or
> not either.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz
> H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
> doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage
> with
>> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>>
>> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
>> on
>> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
>> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
>> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>
>> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
>> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
>> love
>>
>> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer...
> 1)
>> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
>> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
>> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
>> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
>> is
>>
>> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the
> ground
>> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>>
>> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
>> in
>>
>> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
>> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
>> they really serve two different market segments.
>>
>> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
>> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
>> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
>> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the
> MTI
>> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
>> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>>
>> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
>> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
>> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
>> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
>> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
>> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
>> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
>> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
>> (Thats
>>
>> not exact db spec)
>>
>> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
>> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
>> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>>
>> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
>> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
>> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
>> colocated without self interference (meaning 

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Kurt Fankhauser]

What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or
not either.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz
H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts."
--- Winston Churchill


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage
with
> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>
> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
> on
> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
> love
>
> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer...
1)
> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
> is
>
> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the
ground
> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>
> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
> in
>
> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
> they really serve two different market segments.
>
> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the
MTI
> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>
> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
> (Thats
>
> not exact db spec)
>
> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>
> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal
> seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation
between
> each antenna.
>
> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the
> other
>
> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made
> that
>
> possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying
> signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we
> recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.
>
>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

What about the front to back ratio with the yagis?  That's really gotta suck 
unless you're going with 5mhz channels.


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz 
H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage 
> with
> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>
> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
> on
> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
> love
>
> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 
> 1)
> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
> is
>
> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the 
> ground
> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>
> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
> in
>
> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
> they really serve two different market segments.
>
> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the 
> MTI
> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>
> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
> (Thats
>
> not exact db spec)
>
> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>
> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal
> seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation 
> between
> each antenna.
>
> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the
> other
>
> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made
> that
>
> possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying
> signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we
> recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Josh Luthman]

I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with
> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?
>
> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
> on
> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
> love
>
> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1)
> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain.
> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
> still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
> is
>
> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground
> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.
>
> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
> in
>
> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
> antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna,
> they really serve two different market segments.
>
> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
> antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI
> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.
>
> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on
> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy
> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
> good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I
> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also
> comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
> (Thats
>
> not exact db spec)
>
> There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
> the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using
> Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.
>
> When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
> colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
> With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
> colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
> fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal
> seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between
> each antenna.
>
> Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the
> other
>
> native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made
> that
>
> possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying
> signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we
> recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scottie Arnett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector
> Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> > To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I
> > have nev

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with
3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?

Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on
the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique 
patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love

to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) 
They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain. 
For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector 
antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and 
still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there is

a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground 
where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.

Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in

this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an 
antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, 
they really serve two different market segments.

MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass 
antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most 
cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of 
the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI 
makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the 
perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.

In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like 
them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on 
beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy 
to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find 
Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other 
good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I 
dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also 
comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats

not exact db spec)

There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use 
the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using 
Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.

When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to 
colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity 
colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), 
fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal 
seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between 
each antenna.

Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other

native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that

possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying 
signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we 
recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Scottie Arnett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


> To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I 
> have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 
> 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have 
> used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they

> are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first 
> and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better.
>
> Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I 
> have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. 
> On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles 
> away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is 
> set on my Moto 900 AP's.
>
> If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things 
> much cheaper. If y

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Tom DeReggi]

Note... Teletronics also makes/carries a Horizontal 900Mhz 120deg sector, 
priced competitively. We were in a crunch for antennas quickly, so since 
Teletronics was local to us, we gave them a try (instead of waiting for 
Tilteks). After all was said and done, the Teletronic antennas actually 
worked very well for us.  In that deployment, we had the antennas on 
opposite sides of large dirt hill, so I cant comment on their F/B isolation 
for colocating them. But it performed as spec'd and.was very durable.  These 
were a bit more sleak, meaning uniform shaped and not very deep, so 
cosmetically they were less noticeable.

Just another option to consider.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I
almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  
wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
> into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Tom DeReggi]

SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique 
patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love 
to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) 
They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar gain. 
For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector 
antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and 
still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there is 
a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground 
where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.

Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in 
this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an 
antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, 
they really serve two different market segments.

MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass 
antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most 
cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of 
the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI 
makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the 
perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.

In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like 
them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on 
beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy 
to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find 
Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other 
good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I 
dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also 
comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats 
not exact db spec)

There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use 
the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using 
Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.

When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to 
colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity 
colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), 
fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal 
seperation, maybe 3ft)  if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between 
each antenna.

Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other 
native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that 
possible.  But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying 
signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we 
recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Scottie Arnett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


> To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I 
> have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 
> 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have 
> used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they 
> are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first 
> and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better.
>
> Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I 
> have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. 
> On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles 
> away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is 
> set on my Moto 900 AP's.
>
> If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things 
> much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy 
> unless you expect less than 20 subs.
>
> Scott
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Robert West" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400
>
>>I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
>>antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
>>I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it 
>>works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new 
>>install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 mil

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[MDK]

I looked at what was out there, and decided that most were too expensive and 
worse...  Too large for some sites.

I've used the little  yagi's as "sectors" and really, for a cheap site, or a 
site you can't install the big antennas, they work reasonably well.Not 
very good front / back ratio, however.

For a site with all the clients in a 100 degree arc, I put up two.They 
don't seem to interfere with each other,  and more importantly, they are 
very small for a housetop access point, and at 6 feet vertical separation, 
they don't seem to have any issues even while using adjoining 5 mhz 
channels.

You get what you pay for, but sometimes that's just what you need.


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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:02 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
> I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it 
> works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new 
> install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, 
> ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[jp]

MTI is the shizz for this. MTI will give much better coverage than a 
superpass, more than enough coverage to be worth the extra money. The 
MTI's radiating/listening pattern is pretty neat too, whereas the 
Superpass will be kinda like a lopsided omni.

The pac-wireless hoz 900 sectors are actually good too in terms of 
operation. Their fiberglassing isn't quite as good as MTI's covering 
though.

Superpass is a step up over a $100 omni, but it's not functionally 
competitive for sectors.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:02:10PM -0400, Robert West wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
> I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if 
> it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new 
> install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path 
> but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
> 
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap 
> SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality 
> if it's deserved.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob-
> 
> The cheap SOB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Scottie Arnett]

To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have 
never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more 
Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree 
H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive 
I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the 
consequences later. I sleep better.

Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have 
used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the 
Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could 
have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 
AP's.

If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much 
cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you 
expect less than 20 subs.

Scott 

-- Original Message --
From: "Robert West" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400

>I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
>Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
>buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done 
>the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal 
>for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the 
>CPEs.
>
>I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
>it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
>deserved.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Bob-
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

Looks nice.  Bullets  But hopefully some RocketM's when the antennas 
are released.  I'll be all over that.

Is anyone on this list doing Beta tests with it yet?

I'd love to see a side by side comparison with Canopy.

Bob-



- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Bailey" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol 
SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19484

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:28 PM


Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live
without radio? Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been
promised?

Do tell! What's the scoop

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Bailey" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the
schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will
shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI
expensive..GET what you pay for.

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird  wrote:


From: Michael Baird 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM


There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse ,
> into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Jason Bailey]

http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19484

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:28 PM


Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live 
without radio?  Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been 
promised?

Do tell!  What's the scoop

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Bailey" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the 
schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will 
shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI 
expensive..GET what you pay for.

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird  wrote:


From: Michael Baird 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM


There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Bailey"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
> into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live 
without radio?  Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been 
promised?

Do tell!  What's the scoop

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Bailey" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the 
schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will 
shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI 
expensive..GET what you pay for.

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird  wrote:


From: Michael Baird 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM


There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
> into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[RickG]

I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I
almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). 
>  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
> buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've 
> done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent 
> signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to 
> the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
> it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

Maybe.


- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? 

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  
wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
> into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Jason Bailey]

I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the 
schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake 
the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason   For now,MTI expensive..GET 
what you pay for.

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird  wrote:


From: Michael Baird 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM


There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week 
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products 
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

Agreed.  But I prefer the julian calender explaination.

It's more confusing.


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Baird" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


> There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week
> they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products
> fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet 
> demand.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>>
>> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but 
>> nothing
>> solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jason Bailey"
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
>> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>>
>>
>> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
>> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Robert West
>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
>> healthcare, taxes or government related.
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>>
>>
>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
>> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
>> I've
>> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
>> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install 
>> needs
>> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
>> into
>> the trees to the CPEs.
>>
>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap 
>> SOB
>> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if 
>> it's
>> deserved.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>> The cheap SOB
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

I've been using the Comet 900 Omnis and they work great but not for much 
distance.  The Comet is heavy at all but pretty solid.

Bob-

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector 
Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I've had suggestions of MTI's.  They are very expensive anywhere, I
believe.  I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's
super super super super super heavy).

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West 
wrote:

> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...Hmmmm,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West 
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
> into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[RickG]

Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? 

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). 
>  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
> buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've 
> done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent 
> signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to 
> the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
> it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
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> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Michael Baird]

There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week 
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products 
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Josh Luthman]

I've had suggestions of MTI's.  They are very expensive anywhere, I
believe.  I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's
super super super super super heavy).

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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that counts.”
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West wrote:

> UBNT works on the Julian calendar.
>
> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.
>
> LOL!
>
> Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
> solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?
>
> Bob-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
>
>
> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert West 
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
> healthcare, taxes or government related.
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM
>
>
> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into
> the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
> deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and 
over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

I prefer goo quality. :)

I'll give it a look to be sure.

Bob-


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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
> equipment that I don't have to go back to.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"  micro.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
>> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
>> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
>> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>>
>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
>> quality if it's deserved.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

UBNT works on the Julian calendar.

It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.

LOL!

Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing 
solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?

Bob-

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From: "Jason Bailey" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second 
quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into 
the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Jeremie Chism]

Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no  
problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use  
equipment that I don't have to go back to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"  wrote:

> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector  
> antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just  
> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses  
> what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but  
> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4  
> miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.
>
> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a  
> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top  
> quality if it's deserved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob-
>
> The cheap SOB
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Jason Bailey]

Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter 
of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy 
these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done the 
Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 
to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Jason Bailey]

THANKS for changing the subjectCheck out MTI...worth the extra

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy 
these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done the 
Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 
to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

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[WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

[Robert West]

I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy 
these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done the 
Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 
to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Marco Coelho]

Testing to a dedicated Cogent server in California yielded the best
results; however, even testing to their pool of iperf servers provided
a transfer of 796 Mb/s.  The trick was to run multiple threads (50).

Marco Coelho


[r...@ns1 ~]# iperf  -c dca.iperf.cogentco.com -w 256000 -P 50 -C

Client connecting to dca.iperf.cogentco.com, TCP port 5001
TCP window size:   256 KByte (WARNING: requested   250 KByte)

[ 49] local 64.202.224.2 port 38472 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[  3] local 64.202.224.2 port 3 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 10] local 64.202.224.2 port 38426 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[  5] local 64.202.224.2 port 1 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[  4] local 64.202.224.2 port 5 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[  8] local 64.202.224.2 port 38428 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 11] local 64.202.224.2 port 7 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 16] local 64.202.224.2 port 9 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 18] local 64.202.224.2 port 38432 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[  6] local 64.202.224.2 port 38430 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 12] local 64.202.224.2 port 33341 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 17] local 64.202.224.2 port 38434 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 15] local 64.202.224.2 port 38436 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 14] local 64.202.224.2 port 33343 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 13] local 64.202.224.2 port 33345 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 20] local 64.202.224.2 port 38438 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 24] local 64.202.224.2 port 38439 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 27] local 64.202.224.2 port 33348 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 28] local 64.202.224.2 port 38442 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 23] local 64.202.224.2 port 33351 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 19] local 64.202.224.2 port 33349 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 29] local 64.202.224.2 port 38445 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 33] local 64.202.224.2 port 33352 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 21] local 64.202.224.2 port 33355 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 31] local 64.202.224.2 port 38448 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 44] local 64.202.224.2 port 33357 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 32] local 64.202.224.2 port 38446 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 30] local 64.202.224.2 port 38450 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 46] local 64.202.224.2 port 38451 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 47] local 64.202.224.2 port 33360 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 36] local 64.202.224.2 port 33362 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 51] local 64.202.224.2 port 33363 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 48] local 64.202.224.2 port 38456 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 40] local 64.202.224.2 port 38453 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 37] local 64.202.224.2 port 38458 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 26] local 64.202.224.2 port 33365 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 22] local 64.202.224.2 port 38460 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 43] local 64.202.224.2 port 38461 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 42] local 64.202.224.2 port 33367 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 52] local 64.202.224.2 port 38463 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 25] local 64.202.224.2 port 38464 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 38] local 64.202.224.2 port 33373 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 39] local 64.202.224.2 port 38467 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 50] local 64.202.224.2 port 38462 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 35] local 64.202.224.2 port 33374 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[  9] local 64.202.224.2 port 33378 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 41] local 64.202.224.2 port 33377 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ 45] local 64.202.224.2 port 33379 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[  7] local 64.202.224.2 port 38424 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001
[ 34] local 64.202.224.2 port 33375 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 19]  0.0-10.0 sec  37.2 MBytes  31.2 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 36]  0.0-10.0 sec  21.1 MBytes  17.7 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 32]  0.0-10.0 sec  43.3 MBytes  36.3 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 30]  0.0-10.0 sec  42.9 MBytes  35.9 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 40]  0.0-10.0 sec  44.1 MBytes  36.9 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 44]  0.0-10.0 sec  17.1 MBytes  14.3 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-10.0 sec  29.2 MBytes  24.5 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[ 26]  0.0-10.0 sec  

Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[RickG]

Good info Rubens. Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Rubens Kuhl  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, RickG  wrote:
>> Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says:
>> Actual tested throughput Ether1 <-> Ether2 = 1Gbps
>
> For large-large-large packets, as these boards are pps limited.
>
>> Ether2 <-> Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2
>
> That's because Ether 2 to 5 are connected to a single gigabit CPU
> port.  It should read 500 Mbps and not 650 Mbps, as 650 Mbps would
> imply a 1.3Gbps port.
>
>
>> Is the 750 the same?
>
> THe RB750 don't use the RB450G and RB750G switch chip.
> (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Switch_Chip_Features)
>
>> Also, what does "optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed
>> Gigabit throughput." mean?
>
> It means if you configure switching instead of CPU-forwarding on these
> ports, they will get wire speed throughput. But it will be limited
> layer-2 and may be tag insertion/removal, some L3/L4 ACLs if they are
> small.
>
>> This is interesting as well:
>> "Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but
>> a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps
>> throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets!"
>
> According to the page above RB750G doesn't have the "all-port-switch"
> option of RB450G, which suggests it only has one gigabit connection to
> the CPU. The fact that all RB750G ports have the same MTU
> (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards),
> when RB450G Ether1 has a slightly larger MTU than RB450G Ether2-5
> suggests that as well.
>
>
> Rubens
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Tom DeReggi]

Want to remind on the Latency factor versus window size that will limit the 
maximum speed possible to transfer per TCP session.
To test 1G, you really need to have a near by low latency site to test to, 
to get accurate result for a single session.
And may be impossible to fill capacity without multiple sessions.
You'll probably have to use UDP to test for capacity. Testing TCP quality 
will be a bit tougher.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open


> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
> see if it's up to snuff.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marco
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Philip Dorr]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Jon Auer  wrote:
> So, I have a friend that tried that once.
>
> It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system.
> Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc
> on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0 disk array, etc.
>
A RAM Disk should work.  Rather easy to setup in Linux to test with.

> On top of that the linux distributions didn't seem to have that much
> demand, relatively speaking (FTP mirror sites across peering seem to
> perform better for me).
> To actually get enough demand to drive the throughput we wanted we had
> to resort to unmentionable yet far more popular content.
>
Get a Linux Distro, like Ubuntu, on release day.

> But yes, quite fun to take something common and tune it to perform at
> uncommon loads.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>> Torrents will fill capacity much better.  Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora,
>> etc.  Share the wealth!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
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>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
>> that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
>>> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
>>> see if it's up to snuff.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marco C. Coelho
>>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>>> POB 875
>>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Jon Auer]

So, I have a friend that tried that once.

It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system.
Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc
on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0 disk array, etc.

On top of that the linux distributions didn't seem to have that much
demand, relatively speaking (FTP mirror sites across peering seem to
perform better for me).
To actually get enough demand to drive the throughput we wanted we had
to resort to unmentionable yet far more popular content.

But yes, quite fun to take something common and tune it to perform at
uncommon loads.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Torrents will fill capacity much better.  Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora,
> etc.  Share the wealth!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
>> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
>> see if it's up to snuff.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Marco
>>
>> --
>> Marco C. Coelho
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Rubens Kuhl]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, RickG  wrote:
> Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says:
> Actual tested throughput Ether1 <-> Ether2 = 1Gbps

For large-large-large packets, as these boards are pps limited.

> Ether2 <-> Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2

That's because Ether 2 to 5 are connected to a single gigabit CPU
port.  It should read 500 Mbps and not 650 Mbps, as 650 Mbps would
imply a 1.3Gbps port.


> Is the 750 the same?

THe RB750 don't use the RB450G and RB750G switch chip.
(http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Switch_Chip_Features)

> Also, what does "optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed
> Gigabit throughput." mean?

It means if you configure switching instead of CPU-forwarding on these
ports, they will get wire speed throughput. But it will be limited
layer-2 and may be tag insertion/removal, some L3/L4 ACLs if they are
small.

> This is interesting as well:
> "Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but
> a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps
> throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets!"

According to the page above RB750G doesn't have the "all-port-switch"
option of RB450G, which suggests it only has one gigabit connection to
the CPU. The fact that all RB750G ports have the same MTU
(http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards),
when RB450G Ether1 has a slightly larger MTU than RB450G Ether2-5
suggests that as well.


Rubens



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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[RickG]

Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says:
Actual tested throughput Ether1 <-> Ether2 = 1Gbps
Ether2 <-> Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2

Is the 750 the same?
Also, what does "optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed
Gigabit throughput." mean?
This is interesting as well:
"Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but
a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps
throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets!"

-RickG

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Dylan Bouterse  wrote:
> Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just
> did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something
> better.
>
> Dylan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
>
> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
> see if it's up to snuff.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marco
>
> --
> Marco C. Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
> POB 875
> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Marco Coelho]

I just pulled 780 between Texas and California

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dylan Bouterse  wrote:
> Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just
> did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something
> better.
>
> Dylan
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
>
> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
> see if it's up to snuff.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marco
>
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> Argon Technologies Inc.
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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Dylan Bouterse]

Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just
did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something
better.

Dylan

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
see if it's up to snuff.

Thanks in advance.

Marco

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Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Josh Luthman]

Torrents will fill capacity much better.  Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora,
etc.  Share the wealth!

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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that counts.”
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
> a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
> see if it's up to snuff.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marco
>
> --
> Marco C. Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
> POB 875
> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 903-455-5036
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[WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open

[Marco Coelho]

I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do
a few iperf tests against.  I just lit up some new fiber and want to
see if it's up to snuff.

Thanks in advance.

Marco

-- 
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Brad Belton]

Yah, yah, yahflog me, beat me...my mistake!  lol

"The Baltic Networks name and logo were inspired by the Baltic Sea region in
Eastern Europe."

I skimmed this and incorrectly read this as they were overseas!

Brad


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Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. 

Mike Goicoechea 

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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Mike Goicoechea]

Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. 

Mike Goicoechea 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Brad Belton]

Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Gino Villarini]

On the Mikrotik site, under the Made for Mikrotik Page, there are a
couple available

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:09 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Hello,

I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think
someone
makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?

Thanks!


Brad






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Josh Luthman]

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
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[WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

[Brad Belton]

Hello,

I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the
RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has these?

Thanks!


Brad





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Hello Bob,

DragonWave Support was very prompt and helpful.  They confirmed the outdoor
IDU is capable of the same IF cable lengths as the indoor IDU.  However,
both IDU style distances are ultimately limited by the firmware they are
running.  In my case about 202'.  Just FYI if anyone else ever runs into
this issue.

Thanks,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Just FYI...DragonWave Support has contacted me and is already on the case.
They promise an answer shortly.  Certainly acceptable response time.  Kudos
to DragonWave!

Brad




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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Thanks for the feedback Bob.  I just emailed DragonWave Support as well.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

I would think no BUT

Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with 
an outdoor modem unit.  The gain may be set real low and when you 
finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you 
may not work.  Call tech support to find out for sure.  It won't cost 
you anything and they will know for sure.  Or send them an e-mail:  
supp...@dragonwaveinc.com

Good Luck

-B-




Brad Belton wrote:
> Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send
me.
> Thanks again Tom!
>
> These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
> looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
> we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
> expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave
gear
> for new Trango gear.
>
> It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
> considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
> our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.
Does
> anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> Brad,
>
> I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.
>
> My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
> need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
> more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
> it's still workable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>   
>> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
>> 
> have
>   
>> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>>
>> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
>> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
>> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
>> side.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton
>> BelWave Communications
>> O:  817-737-3124 #101
>> F:  817-336-7031
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>> 
> feedback...
>   
>> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
>> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
>> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hello Randy,
>>>
>>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>>  
>>>   
&

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Just FYI...DragonWave Support has contacted me and is already on the case.
They promise an answer shortly.  Certainly acceptable response time.  Kudos
to DragonWave!

Brad




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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Thanks for the feedback Bob.  I just emailed DragonWave Support as well.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

I would think no BUT

Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with 
an outdoor modem unit.  The gain may be set real low and when you 
finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you 
may not work.  Call tech support to find out for sure.  It won't cost 
you anything and they will know for sure.  Or send them an e-mail:  
supp...@dragonwaveinc.com

Good Luck

-B-




Brad Belton wrote:
> Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send
me.
> Thanks again Tom!
>
> These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
> looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
> we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
> expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave
gear
> for new Trango gear.
>
> It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
> considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
> our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.
Does
> anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> Brad,
>
> I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.
>
> My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
> need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
> more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
> it's still workable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>   
>> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
>> 
> have
>   
>> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>>
>> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
>> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
>> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
>> side.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton
>> BelWave Communications
>> O:  817-737-3124 #101
>> F:  817-336-7031
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>> 
> feedback...
>   
>> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
>> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
>> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hello Randy,
>>>
>>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>>  
>>>   
>> side
>>
>> 
>>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>>
>>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the
>>>   
> 50'-200'
>   
>>>  
>>>   
>> of
>>
>> 
>>> LMR400

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Thanks for the feedback Bob.  I just emailed DragonWave Support as well.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

I would think no BUT

Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with 
an outdoor modem unit.  The gain may be set real low and when you 
finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you 
may not work.  Call tech support to find out for sure.  It won't cost 
you anything and they will know for sure.  Or send them an e-mail:  
supp...@dragonwaveinc.com

Good Luck

-B-




Brad Belton wrote:
> Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send
me.
> Thanks again Tom!
>
> These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
> looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
> we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
> expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave
gear
> for new Trango gear.
>
> It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
> considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
> our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.
Does
> anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> Brad,
>
> I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.
>
> My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
> need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
> more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
> it's still workable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>   
>> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
>> 
> have
>   
>> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>>
>> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
>> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
>> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
>> side.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton
>> BelWave Communications
>> O:  817-737-3124 #101
>> F:  817-336-7031
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>> 
> feedback...
>   
>> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
>> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
>> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hello Randy,
>>>
>>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>>  
>>>   
>> side
>>
>> 
>>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>>
>>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the
>>>   
> 50'-200'
>   
>>>  
>>>   
>> of
>>
>> 
>>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to
do?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
>&

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Bob Moldashel]

I would think no BUT

Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with 
an outdoor modem unit.  The gain may be set real low and when you 
finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you 
may not work.  Call tech support to find out for sure.  It won't cost 
you anything and they will know for sure.  Or send them an e-mail:  
supp...@dragonwaveinc.com

Good Luck

-B-




Brad Belton wrote:
> Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me.
> Thanks again Tom!
>
> These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
> looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
> we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
> expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear
> for new Trango gear.
>
> It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
> considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
> our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.  Does
> anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
>
> Brad,
>
> I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.
>
> My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
> need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
> more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
> it's still workable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>   
>> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
>> 
> have
>   
>> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>>
>> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
>> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
>> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
>> side.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton
>> BelWave Communications
>> O:  817-737-3124 #101
>> F:  817-336-7031
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>> 
> feedback...
>   
>> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
>> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
>> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hello Randy,
>>>
>>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>>  
>>>   
>> side
>>
>> 
>>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>>
>>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the
>>>   
> 50'-200'
>   
>>>  
>>>   
>> of
>>
>> 
>>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>>  
>>>   
>> feedback...
>>
>> 
>>> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>>>
>>> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet p

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Just put a call into DragonWave Support to ask about AirPair IF cable length
limitations.  It'll be interesting to see how well their call center system
works as compared to actually getting a live tech when calling Trango...

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:49 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me.
Thanks again Tom!

These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear
for new Trango gear.

It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.  Does
anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?

Thanks!


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Brad,

I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.

My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
it's still workable.

Randy


On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
have
> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>
> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
> side.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Brad Belton
> BelWave Communications
> O:  817-737-3124 #101
> F:  817-336-7031
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello Randy,
>>
>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>  
> side
>
>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>
>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the
50'-200'
>>  
> of
>
>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>  
> feedback...
>
>> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>>
>> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
>> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
>> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
>> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
>> and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
>> ethernet up on one cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello Kristian,
>>>
>>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
>>>
>>>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Correct.  I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me.
Thanks again Tom!

These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client
looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3.  In this case
we're good with a 100MB cable limitation.  Whenever their DS3 agreement
expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear
for new Trango gear.

It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses.  I'm
considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on
our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable.  Does
anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem?

Thanks!


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Brad,

I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.

My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
it's still workable.

Randy


On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to
have
> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>
> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
> side.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Brad Belton
> BelWave Communications
> O:  817-737-3124 #101
> F:  817-336-7031
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello Randy,
>>
>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>  
> side
>
>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>
>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the
50'-200'
>>  
> of
>
>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>  
> feedback...
>
>> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>>
>> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
>> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
>> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
>> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
>> and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
>> ethernet up on one cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello Kristian,
>>>
>>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
>>>
>>>
>> small
>>
>>  
>>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
>>>
>>>
>> some
>>
>>  
>>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
>>>
>>>
>> basic
>>
>>  
>>> field requirements.
>>>
>>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using
on
>>&

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Randy Cosby]

Brad,

I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.

My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
it's still workable.

Randy


On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have
> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?
>
> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
> cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
> side.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Brad Belton
> BelWave Communications
> O:  817-737-3124 #101
> F:  817-336-7031
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
>
> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello Randy,
>>
>> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
>>  
> side
>
>> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>>
>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
>> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&   operate the ODU over the 50'-200'
>>  
> of
>
>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>  
> feedback...
>
>> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>>
>> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
>> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
>> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
>> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
>> and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
>> ethernet up on one cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello Kristian,
>>>
>>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
>>>
>>>
>> small
>>
>>  
>>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
>>>
>>>
>> some
>>
>>  
>>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
>>>
>>>
>> basic
>>
>>  
>>> field requirements.
>>>
>>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on
>>>
>>>
>> a
>>
>>  
>>> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
>>> DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these
>>>
>>>
>> custom
>>
>>  
>>> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
>>> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>>
>>>
>> fee

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have
a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?

It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
side.

Thanks!



Brad Belton
BelWave Communications
O:  817-737-3124 #101
F:  817-336-7031




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another 
used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would 
think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.

Randy


On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello Randy,
>
> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
side
> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>
> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&  operate the ODU over the 50'-200'
of
> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>
> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
> and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
> ethernet up on one cable.
>
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello Kristian,
>>
>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
>>  
> small
>
>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
>>  
> some
>
>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
>>  
> basic
>
>> field requirements.
>>
>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on
>>  
> a
>
>> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
>> DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these
>>  
> custom
>
>> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!
>>
>> Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
>> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>  
> feedback...
>
>> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
>>> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.
>>>
>>>
>> We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
>> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
>> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
>> effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
>> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
>> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
>> get the latest firmware if you can.
>>
>>
>>  
>>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
>>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
>>> pr

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Randy Cosby]

We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another 
used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would 
think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.

Randy


On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello Randy,
>
> Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side
> of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?
>
> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
> inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
> proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power&  operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of
> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
>
> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...
>
> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
> and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
> ethernet up on one cable.
>
>
>
> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello Kristian,
>>
>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
>>  
> small
>
>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
>>  
> some
>
>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
>>  
> basic
>
>> field requirements.
>>
>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on
>>  
> a
>
>> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
>> DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these
>>  
> custom
>
>> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!
>>
>> Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
>> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
>>  
> feedback...
>
>> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
>>> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.
>>>
>>>
>> We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
>> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
>> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
>> effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
>> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
>> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
>> get the latest firmware if you can.
>>
>>
>>  
>>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
>>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
>>> prices on cable length options.
>>>
>>>
>> The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
>> Something along the lines of this...
>>
>> http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
>> 20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL
>>
>>
>>  
>>> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
>>> cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
> 
>
>> 
>> WISPA Want

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Hello Randy,

Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side
of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?

Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
Will the outdoor IDU be able to power & operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of
LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?

Thanks for the feedback!

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...

If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port 
inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.  
We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system 
- http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf  
and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power + 
ethernet up on one cable.



On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello Kristian,
>
> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
small
> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
some
> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
basic
> field requirements.
>
> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on
a
> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
> DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these
custom
> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!
>
> Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
feedback...
>
> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
>> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.
>>  
> We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
> effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
> get the latest firmware if you can.
>
>
>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
>> prices on cable length options.
>>  
> The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
> Something along the lines of this...
>
> http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
> 20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL
>
>
>> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
>> cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...
>>  
>
>
> -Kristian
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Randy Cosby]

Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...

If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port 
inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.  
We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system 
- http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf  
and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power + 
ethernet up on one cable.



On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello Kristian,
>
> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small
> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers some
> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic
> field requirements.
>
> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a
> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
> DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom
> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!
>
> Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
>
> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
>> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.
>>  
> We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
> effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
> get the latest firmware if you can.
>
>
>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
>> prices on cable length options.
>>  
> The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
> Something along the lines of this...
>
> http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
> 20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL
>
>
>> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
>> cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...
>>  
>
>
> -Kristian
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Hello Kristian,

Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small
for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers some
manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic
field requirements.

The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a
job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom
cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!

Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.

We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
get the latest firmware if you can.

> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
> prices on cable length options.

The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
Something along the lines of this...

http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL

> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
> cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...



-Kristian






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[WISPA] Looking for 5 Mb Ft Myers, FLA

[Bob Moldashel]

Looking for 5 Mb wholesale via wireless in Ft Myers area.  Anyone?




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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Kristian Hoffmann]

On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
> feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.

We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
get the latest firmware if you can.

> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
> prices on cable length options.

The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
Something along the lines of this...

http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL

> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
> cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...



-Kristian





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[WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

[Brad Belton]

Hello,

We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.

We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
prices on cable length options.

I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...

Thanks!


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[WISPA] Looking for BW on Mt. Vaca in Vacaville

[Jerry Richardson]

Looking for 20mbps wholesale bandwidth from virtually any tower on Mt.  
Vaca to a colo. With or without IP.

Thanks

Sent Mobile
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[WISPA] Looking for Orlando WISP

[Tom DeReggi]

I'm looking for an Orlando WISP to help with Broadband for an event in early 
march.

If interested Email me today with your contact info, and I'll get back to 
you within 24hours.

This will be for a high capacity link for a day or two, and provided on a 
wholesale basis.
I normally fly out and do these for a pre-defined rate. But I have a date 
conflict, and would prefer to refer it to a local, if compeitive.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Dylan Bouterse" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show


I live in Orlando so no, I'm not planning a family vacation but Orlando is 
one of the more popular conference spots in the US due to it's tourism 
industry. It may not be for everybody, but having the option of doing 
business/pleasure in one trip is attractive to some. Sorry if you took 
offense.

Dylan

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

You're wanting to go on a family vacation?  I thought this was to be a WISP
conference.  Like, for WISP operators.
I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets,
and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse wrote:

> Orlando!
>
> We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, 
> I-Drive
> area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines
> though. :oP
>
> Dylan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> Phoenix.  Dry and warm.
>
> *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel
> complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/
>
> I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the
> zip lines here at Gilly Hollow.  One of them is a terror at 750 feet.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> I'm the same.  If Vegas, I'd pass.  Having shows in Vegas isn't about the
> show, it's about Vegas.  The show is just the vehicle to use to get there.
> A show in Vegas has become a cliché.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting
>
> If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the 
> place -
> IMHO
>
> When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets
> for
> prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr
> Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place
> I
> would like to take my family on vacation.
>
> Disney sounds better ;-)
>
> Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia,
> Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer...
>
>
>
> 
> _
> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com
>  Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>
> > Next time, drive up to Mesquite  (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great
> > rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :)
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
> >> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up
> my
> >> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large
> conference.
> >> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close
> >> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was 
> >> no
> >> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and
> visited
> >> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't
> even
> >> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week.
> >> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler.
> >> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental
> minivan
> >> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the
> car
> >> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass
> >> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the
> hour.
> >> Yeah exactly the place

[WISPA] Looking for Trango 5830int

[Cliff Leboeuf]

I'm looking for used - working- Trango 5830INT subscribers.

 

If you nave any that you may want to part with, please send qty and
price off-line.

 

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[WISPA] Looking for an iDirect Partner

[Cliff Leboeuf]

Is anyone an iDirect Partner? I may have a lead. Contact me off-list.

- Cliff



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[WISPA] Looking for 2450 Advantage AP

[Andy Trimmell]

We're doing a build-out here soon and looking for 2-2450 Motorola
Advantage Access points. I thought I'd ask here, if anyone had a couple
they wanted to get rid of. I like to keep business between other ISPs
before I hit the vendors. Let me know!



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[WISPA] Looking For Fiber

[Robert West]

Anyone have or know about any fiber in Jeffersonville, Ohio?  We can reach
Time Warner but we already use them in the network and would like to use
this to add another gateway.  

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help

[Scott Carullo]

I didn't get a lot of bites on this so I'll as another question...  Those 
of you using MT or similar, what antennas are you selecting for your tower 
APs for approximate 40-90 deg coverage per radio.  I'd like to stay within 
those beam widths - less than 40 is not practical usually and more then 90 
is too noisy for here.  Thanks

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
> From: "Scott Carullo" 
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:20 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help
> 
> I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with 
> antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth 
> horizontally.  Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less.
> 
> Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern.  It would 
be 
> nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or 
so 
> beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus.
> 
> Anyone know where I can find one of these?
> 
> What are you all doing, external sector antennas?  I hate to go back to 
> running LMR again :)
> 
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help

[George Rogato]

I've seen those posted on one of these lists. Exactly the same as 
trango. From the same manufacturer. I think they are in Israel.
Can't remember the url or company, but I'm thinking it was an overseas 
wireless distributor that had them.
Anyways, hope that helps.

George



Scott Carullo wrote:
> I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with 
> antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth 
> horizontally.  Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less.
> 
> Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern.  It would be 
> nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so 
> beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus.
> 
> Anyone know where I can find one of these?
> 
> What are you all doing, external sector antennas?  I hate to go back to 
> running LMR again :)
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help

[Josh Luthman]

You can use a Pac or chinese DCE case and then attach a panel or
sector to it (drill, bolts).

On 7/31/09, Scott Carullo  wrote:
>
> I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with
> antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth
> horizontally.  Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less.
>
> Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern.  It would be
> nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so
> beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus.
>
> Anyone know where I can find one of these?
>
> What are you all doing, external sector antennas?  I hate to go back to
> running LMR again :)
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
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[WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help

[Scott Carullo]

I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with 
antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth 
horizontally.  Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less.

Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern.  It would be 
nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so 
beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus.

Anyone know where I can find one of these?

What are you all doing, external sector antennas?  I hate to go back to 
running LMR again :)

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102






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[WISPA] Looking for service on Tonganoxie Rd, Leavenworth, KS 66048

[D. Ryan Spott]

Looking for service in this area:



Does anyone service this area outside of Leavenworth/Lansing?

ryan



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Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I have one link.  I have taken if from the box and assembled it.  But it's 
never been powered up  Still have all 6 original boxes for it too.

marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:25 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios


> Hello,
>
> I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com
> links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that
> were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1
> models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or
> OC3 Pcom radios.
>
> Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me
> know.   Thanks!
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[Jayson Baker]

I have a complete link.  Can't remember anything about it, other than it's
-48VDC.  1' antennas, I believe.  Maybe 23GHz?  DS3.  IDU and ODU.  AFAIK,
they work.  Paid $500 for them.  Make me and offer.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com
> links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that
> were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1
> models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or
> OC3 Pcom radios.
>
> Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me
> know.   Thanks!
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[lakeland]

Good luck Matt. There is a ton of 38 GHz stuff out there but other nands are 
quite scarce
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-Original Message-
From: Matt Larsen - Lists 

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:25:14 
To: WISPA General List; ; 
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios


Hello,

I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com 
links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that 
were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 
models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or 
OC3 Pcom radios. 

Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me 
know.   Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[3-dB Networks]

Try American Communications... they should be able to get a hold of them for
you.

Also get a hold of the guys over at Skybeam (I'm sure you love the use of
that name ;-) Mesa has a bunch of P-Com links I think they are ripping out
for Dragonwave... I can't recall if they were 23GHz, 18GHz, or possibly
38GHz

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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>Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
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>Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
>
>Hello,
>
>I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com
>links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that
>were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1
>models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or
>OC3 Pcom radios.
>
>Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me
>know.   Thanks!
>
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>vistabeam.com
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[Ryan Ghering]

I have 4 IDU's and 2 ODU's on 23Ghz if your interested. MSG me offlist.

Ryan

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com
> links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that
> were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1
> models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or
> OC3 Pcom radios.
>
> Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me
> know.   Thanks!
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
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[WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Hello,

I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com 
links on them at a point in the nearby past.   I have the dishes that 
were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 
models.  My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or 
OC3 Pcom radios. 

Does anyone know of a good source for those radios?   Please let me 
know.   Thanks!

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com




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[WISPA] Looking for used Tranzeo 900 Series radios

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Hi there,

If you have some of the old Tranzeo 900 series radios that you are no 
longer using or would like to get rid of, let me know.   I have a 
project I'm working on and I'd like to come up with 5-10 of them.   Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[Tracy Tippett]

The incredible variety of IP cameras available on the market makes it tough to 
compare apples to apples.  There are low cost low res solutions, high cost low 
res, low frame rate, high frame rate, big dollars and little dollars indoor and 
outdoor, optimized for wireless, converted cctv, you could even probably find a 
diet - decaffinated version if you search long enough.

The important step to take in choosing video equipment is to understand what 
your customer's expectations are first and then to closely match the system 
capabilities to those expectations with budget following along as needed. With 
Hollywood showing everyday customers the incredible capabilities in movies like 
Eagle Eye and Enemy of the State, don't be surprised if your customer wants 
some pretty unreal capabilities.

Most times when a customer learns what all the bells and whistles will cost it 
gets them started thinking about what they really need vs what they want and 
this allows the budget back into reasonable territory.  Best of luck in your 
search.

Additionally as you are comparing camera types and models WATCH OUT for the 
equipment that does not include the software to run it.  This can be a 
tremendous expense.

If you would like to discuss the subject further I am always available offline

Tracy Tippett
Sales Director - North America
Inscape Data Corporation
The Wireless & IP Video Experts 


--Original Mail--
From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:44:20 -0600
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

I agree...

We stumbled into them looking for a tower monitoring solution.  Had a remote
site where someone was unplugging our equipment... stuff like that to cause
downtime (ended up being our competitor).

Put them head to head with most analog cameras and I think most people would
be impressed... 

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

We use them this way.  Not as easy to hide as radio cams etc.  But you get a

VERY good picture from them.

We replaced an ADT system with one.  The customer says that the image 
quality is much much better with this new system than it was with the old 
one.
marlon

- Original Message - 
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To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software


> My understanding of this situation was a webcam that the customer needs
> setup as a security camera in effect.
>
> Inscape does make some great cameras (we area reseller if you are
> interested... I promise our Vendor membership is pending!), but it doesn't
> seem like the right fit for this application.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>
> Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a computer 
> to
>
> do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the recording
> computer at a remote location.
>
> Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:12 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
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>
>> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
>> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
>> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>>
>> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
>> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>>
>> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote
>> location
>> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
>>
>> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
>>
>> Much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[3-dB Networks]

I agree...

We stumbled into them looking for a tower monitoring solution.  Had a remote
site where someone was unplugging our equipment... stuff like that to cause
downtime (ended up being our competitor).

Put them head to head with most analog cameras and I think most people would
be impressed... 

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

We use them this way.  Not as easy to hide as radio cams etc.  But you get a

VERY good picture from them.

We replaced an ADT system with one.  The customer says that the image 
quality is much much better with this new system than it was with the old 
one.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software


> My understanding of this situation was a webcam that the customer needs
> setup as a security camera in effect.
>
> Inscape does make some great cameras (we area reseller if you are
> interested... I promise our Vendor membership is pending!), but it doesn't
> seem like the right fit for this application.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>
> Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a computer 
> to
>
> do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the recording
> computer at a remote location.
>
> Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:12 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>
>
>> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
>> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
>> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>>
>> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
>> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>>
>> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote
>> location
>> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
>>
>> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
>>
>> Much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> - Original Message - >
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[D. Ryan Spott]

You will pay $$$ for them but mobotix is the best I have seen.

ryan


On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:06 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> We use them this way.  Not as easy to hide as radio cams etc.  But  
> you get a
> VERY good picture from them.
>
> We replaced an ADT system with one.  The customer says that the image
> quality is much much better with this new system than it was with  
> the old
> one.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>
>
>> My understanding of this situation was a webcam that the customer  
>> needs
>> setup as a security camera in effect.
>>
>> Inscape does make some great cameras (we area reseller if you are
>> interested... I promise our Vendor membership is pending!), but it  
>> doesn't
>> seem like the right fit for this application.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:58 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>>
>> Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a  
>> computer
>> to
>>
>> do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the  
>> recording
>> computer at a remote location.
>>
>> Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:12 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>>
>>
>>> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
>>> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever  
>>> motion is
>>> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>>>
>>> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence  
>>> collection (not
>>> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>>>
>>> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote
>>> location
>>> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under  
>>> investigation.
>>>
>>> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
>>>
>>> Much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> - Original Message - >
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[Marlon K. Schafer]

We use them this way.  Not as easy to hide as radio cams etc.  But you get a 
VERY good picture from them.

We replaced an ADT system with one.  The customer says that the image 
quality is much much better with this new system than it was with the old 
one.
marlon

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From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software


> My understanding of this situation was a webcam that the customer needs
> setup as a security camera in effect.
>
> Inscape does make some great cameras (we area reseller if you are
> interested... I promise our Vendor membership is pending!), but it doesn't
> seem like the right fit for this application.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
>
> Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a computer 
> to
>
> do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the recording
> computer at a remote location.
>
> Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
> marlon
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> - Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:12 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
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>> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
>> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
>> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>>
>> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
>> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>>
>> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote
>> location
>> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
>>
>> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
>>
>> Much appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[3-dB Networks]

My understanding of this situation was a webcam that the customer needs
setup as a security camera in effect.

Inscape does make some great cameras (we area reseller if you are
interested... I promise our Vendor membership is pending!), but it doesn't
seem like the right fit for this application.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a computer to

do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the recording 
computer at a remote location.

Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
marlon

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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software


> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>
> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>
> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote 
> location
> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
>
> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
>
> Much appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Inscape data has some nice cameras for this.  They do NOT need a computer to 
do it.  They have email ability built in.  Or you could use the recording 
computer at a remote location.

Touch base with EC/Hutton to get the cam.
marlon

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> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>
> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>
> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote 
> location
> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
>
> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
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> Much appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[Chuck McCown - 3]

One of the quickest and easiest ways is the Wilife system.  I think Logitech 
owns the company now.  It has relatively inexpensive but very smart cameras 
and some stealth cameras (clock radio camera) etc.  It communicates with the 
computer via the power line (homeplug).  Very simple to install.
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> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>
> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>
> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote 
> location
> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
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> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[Jeromie Reeves]

Mark, Im already working today but give me a ring. I should be heading
up to Boise too so service is iffy for a ways.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows
> computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is
> detected, and uploads it to a remote server.
>
> This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not
> sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.
>
> Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote location
> to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.
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> If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.
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[WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software

[reader]

I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows 
computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is 
detected, and uploads it to a remote server.

This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not 
sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence.

Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote location 
to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation.

If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this.

Much appreciated.







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[WISPA] Looking for Trango Fox 5300 Su's

[Tom Fadgen]

I am looking to purchase new or used Trango Fox 5300 Su's.

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for some things....

[Blair Davis]

Mark,

Thanks, I'd be willing to buy one just to find out.  Hit me off list 
with pricing and such?

Blair

Mark Nash wrote:
> Hi Blair... I don't know what board is inside them but we have about 30 
> Turbocell clients (Karlnet RSU's and mostly EtherAnt-Turbos).
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
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> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:39 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for some things
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>   
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Looking for a few things I need to buy...  hope someone might have a few
>> laying around to let go...
>>
>> TurboCell gear...
>>
>> KN-50/51 with or without radio card.
>> Avaya OR-1 with or without radio card.  Lucent OR firmware or TurcoCell
>> firmware
>> AP-500 with or without radio card. With or without TurboCell software.
>>
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>> I'm also looking for a single NanoStation 2 as my promised ship date
>> just slipped by 45 days on my order and I'd like one of them to test.
>>
>> Thanks,
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>> West Michigan Wireless ISP
>> 269-650-5749
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for some things....

[Mark Nash]

Hi Blair... I don't know what board is inside them but we have about 30 
Turbocell clients (Karlnet RSU's and mostly EtherAnt-Turbos).

Mark Nash
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for some things


> Hi all.
>
> Looking for a few things I need to buy...  hope someone might have a few
> laying around to let go...
>
> TurboCell gear...
>
> KN-50/51 with or without radio card.
> Avaya OR-1 with or without radio card.  Lucent OR firmware or TurcoCell
> firmware
> AP-500 with or without radio card. With or without TurboCell software.
>
>
> I'm also looking for a single NanoStation 2 as my promised ship date
> just slipped by 45 days on my order and I'd like one of them to test.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blair Davis
> West Michigan Wireless ISP
> 269-650-5749
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[WISPA] Looking for some things....

[Blair Davis]

Hi all.

Looking for a few things I need to buy...  hope someone might have a few 
laying around to let go...

TurboCell gear... 

KN-50/51 with or without radio card.
Avaya OR-1 with or without radio card.  Lucent OR firmware or TurcoCell 
firmware
AP-500 with or without radio card. With or without TurboCell software.


I'm also looking for a single NanoStation 2 as my promised ship date 
just slipped by 45 days on my order and I'd like one of them to test.

Thanks,

Blair Davis
West Michigan Wireless ISP
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

[Brad Belton]

Hello Bryan,

Ok, you have definitely shorter cable runs than we do.  The cable loss
settings may not be as important in your case, but why a split cable on Site
A?  Twice the chance of connector problems at Site A.  Any chance of
replacing the two cables at Site A with one LMR-400 cable?

I know this is a basic question, but have you confirmed the cables and all
RF connectors are good?

What power supplies are you using?  I'd also suggest upgrading firmware.  We
just upgraded ours today:

Site A:

(trango-view)# ver
Current Image Version
IDU FPGA version:   00100108
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D01110801
IDU FW version: 2p0r1D01110801
IDU PIC version:18
IDU Modem version:  40
ODU FW version: 07

Previous Image Version:
IDU FPGA version:   02080907
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D09120701
IDU FW version: 1p0r1D09120701
IDU PIC version:3
ODU FW version: 07
(trango-view)# cab
cable loss at 140 Mhz: 4.45 dB
cable loss at 315 Mhz: 6.76 dB
cable loss at 915 Mhz: 11.81 dB
(trango-view)#


Site B:

(trango-view)# ver
Current Image Version
IDU FPGA version:   00100108
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D01110801
IDU FW version: 2p0r1D01110801
IDU PIC version:18
IDU Modem version:  40
ODU FW version: 07

Previous Image Version:
IDU FPGA version:   02080907
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D09120701
IDU FW version: 1p0r1D09120701
IDU PIC version:3
ODU FW version: 07
(trango-view)# cab
cable loss at 140 Mhz: 5.34 dB
cable loss at 315 Mhz: 8.11 dB
cable loss at 915 Mhz: 14.17 dB
(trango-view)#


Best,



Brad



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Behalf Of Bryan Scott
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

Brad Belton wrote:

> If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.
Then
> provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
> notes between yours and ours.
> 
> What version are you running?

Side A - 50' of LMR400 + 17' of RG58 (or 59, whatever the 50 Ohm stuff is):

Cable Loss 140: 1.20

Cable Loss 315: 2.08

Cable Loss 915: 3.45


Side B - 54' of LMR400:

Cable Loss 140: 0.70

Cable Loss 315: 1.10

Cable Loss 915: 1.96

On Both:

ATPC: Off
Rate Shift: Off
ODU RXGain: On










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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

[Bryan Scott]

Brad Belton wrote:

> If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.  Then
> provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
> notes between yours and ours.
> 
> What version are you running?

Side A - 50' of LMR400 + 17' of RG58 (or 59, whatever the 50 Ohm stuff is):

Cable Loss 140: 1.20

Cable Loss 315: 2.08

Cable Loss 915: 3.45


Side B - 54' of LMR400:

Cable Loss 140: 0.70

Cable Loss 315: 1.10

Cable Loss 915: 1.96

On Both:

ATPC: Off
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

[Brad Belton]

If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.  Then
provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
notes between yours and ours.

What version are you running?  

Best,


Brad





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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:21 AM
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings
>> with
>> the manual's guidelines.
>> 
>> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved
>> for
>> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm
sure
>> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>> 

I've calculated the values according to Times Microwave's site and the
distances of the cable used, and it helped, but we're still seeing random
latency in ping tests across the thing.

I'll check the ATPC settings someone else mentioned; I know that we've got
rate shifting turned off.

-- Bryan






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

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> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings
>> with
>> the manual's guidelines.
>> 
>> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved
>> for
>> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
>> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>> 

I've calculated the values according to Times Microwave's site and the
distances of the cable used, and it helped, but we're still seeing random
latency in ping tests across the thing.

I'll check the ATPC settings someone else mentioned; I know that we've got
rate shifting turned off.

-- Bryan





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

[Chuck McCown - 2]

tnx
- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings 
> with
> the manual's guidelines.
>
> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved 
> for
> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
> I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky
> behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
> But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not
> configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys 
> have
>
> had a chance to exhaust their remedies.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
>> Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1
>> antenna
>> and radio per side, under 300mbps.
>> I was nothing but impressed with our units.
>>
>> Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all
>> the
>> freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
>> ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But
>> there
>> is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
>>
>> Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
>> several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are
>> fantastic.
>> Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only
>> negative
>> I found was no adaptive modulation)
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
>>> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my 
>>> hand
>>> the next day from Canada.
>>>
>>> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
>>> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>>>
>>> I have no experience with the trango.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
>>> To:"WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock
>>> solid.
>>> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
>>> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
>>> running well at all.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>>
>>>
>>>> Matt,
>>>>
>>>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>>>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>>>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>>>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an 
>>>> IDU/ODU
>>>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>>>
>>>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>>>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>>>
>>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

[Brad Belton]

Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings with
the manual's guidelines.  

Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved for
power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky 
behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not 
configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys have

had a chance to exhaust their remedies.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
> Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1 
> antenna
> and radio per side, under 300mbps.
> I was nothing but impressed with our units.
>
> Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all 
> the
> freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
> ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But 
> there
> is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
>
> Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
> several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are 
> fantastic.
> Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only 
> negative
> I found was no adaptive modulation)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> Matt
>>
>> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
>> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my hand
>> the next day from Canada.
>>
>> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
>> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>>
>> I have no experience with the trango.
>>
>> Bob
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
>> To:"WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock 
>> solid.
>> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
>> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
>> running well at all.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
>>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>>
>>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>>>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>>>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>>>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>>>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>>>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to 
>>>> be
>>>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>>