I agree with this.
Personally I think it switching to a digest would lesson the chances
of someone seeing a job that might apply to them. But guess that
opinion only applies if they subscribe to the CF Jobs list itself in
non-digest format.
Sent from my iPad Nano
On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:52 AM, "C
And without knowing anything about the applications it seems odd to me that
one could assume PHP is a step backwards. I looked at a "coldfusion
application" yesterday that was VERY simplistic and they were losing their
server/software. So I could have told them it will take X amount of hours
to
I do not blame the companies one bit. I think they are getting around the
H1B visa need here via just bringing them stateside briefly for training and
then shipping them back to their home countries to do the job. Perhaps I am
wrong on that though, I do not know much about how all the different
Or even themselves for the long run but in the shortrun it will make the
stock holders happy.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
>
> RobG wrote:
> > I like Ravi's positive outlook, but I have to somewhat disagree and say
> > that there are lots of companies that will, withou
>From what I gathered last week it is not just within their boarders. Like I
mentioned someone here is already looking into outsourcing work to an outfit
out of Brazil. About 7 years ago I worked on a project here that was with a
Brazilian. Shared an office with him for about a year before he m
Have you heard that Brazil is quickly becoming the next country to outsource
IT work to? I heard that just last week, it is something one manager here
is looking into even though it is not technically "east" but he likes the
idea of at least having people close to the same time zone he is in.
You
Interesting outlook although over here at least the CIO's message to
managers is move all development to the east(they are referring to India)
because "we are not an IT company". I had a meeting last week with a local
manager and he told me they are seeing a 50% drop in efficiency by moving
thing
I know the people I work for appreciate those real skills coming to this
country. They like the fact they can pay 50% or less for the skills v. what
local people want with the same skills.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Qasim Rasheed wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> I know your comments weren't directed
I know plenty of senior people making around that, some more and some less.
So do not see that out of the range of possibility, now if you lack a
college degree it becomes a good bit harder since the big companies that pay
that much for employees do want those pieces of paper. The vacation though,
I have been working with it since it basically came out in the 90s. I do
some OO and some procedural, it really depends on who I am doing work for.
For example some of the places I do work for have their own inhouse
frameworks and methodologies which are not OO but that is what you use when
you d
I am not looking for work and have not been in a long time but I still
continue to get contacted by places looking to hire people with my skill
set. To me it does not seem like the market has lesson any and perhaps has
even increased. I am sure that greatly depends on where someone is located
amo
They maybe have already evaluated and decided against it. Our big internal
collaboration tool was originally written in ColdFusion and they ultimately
finally migrated/re-wrote it all in a Java web-based solution. I do not
know their reasoning but I do know they looked into several options and
u
Yeah but your friend was hunting for a job and pushing/leading people
towards a resume and him. My question was more towards people who just have
their resumes sitting out there on their personal sites and in a completely
unprotected manner. I would guess that 90% of the blogs I randomly go to
th
What is so wrong with having publicly viewable resumes? I come across
people's personal websites all the time that have that. I could
understand how maybe having them viewable to lord and everyone else
and containing perhaps a home address might be a mistake.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Phi
will look
> into some other Masters programs though. I do think that the BSCS is
> probably not a good idea.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re:
The school I am going to for this CIS degree had some tracts similar to
those and one for databases. Unfortunately by the time I got to the point
where I could take those classes they did away with the tracts and actually
are talking about changing it from a CIS to an MIS degree. Actually would
p
I am not sold that getting a BS in Computer Science/Software Engineering
would be a huge stepping stone to management when you already have a 4 year
degree and regardless of what it is in. Reason I am not sold is in all my
years of doing IT work not one of my managers or their managers had an IT
r
I have a feeling it does not pay near what some would hope for.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Phillip Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Just to clear up some confusion, I'm not the one who posted the ad. I
> was mearly replying to 2 posts on the cf-jobs list.
>
> I have no idea what the pay
Yeah but the pay still should be relatively high. One of my friends, a
civilian, was working on ships that went in/out of there and he got hazard
pay even though he never was near anything considered a risk.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It isn' th
hah ... that is better than what my friend gets working for Blackwater out
of Baghdad, now if I only could find an IT management job in Dubi(sp?)
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Alex Puritche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PI> whats the pay like?
>
> $50K/mo I guess.
>
>
>
~
gt; ColdFusion Developer
>
> SSTWebworks
> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> (919) 874-6229 (home)
> (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:55 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
True, although when they get that trust lets just hope the trust also does
not direct them to just sending the work to a telecommuter who will work for
pennies on the dollar overseas. :)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> When proper life cycle developme
In the past couple of weeks one of the talk radio shows here in town was
talking about companies going to teleconferencing for meetings. One of the
points that was made in it was how one of the bigger companies(I forget its
name) had done a big switch to things because they felt there just was no
It takes a special type of person to be able to manage people they can not
see in person. Some people can manage that just fine and others can not.
Telecommuting is one of those things that is slowly picking up but I foresee
it taking a long time before it is more mainstream. My biggest hangup wi
Crud, guess I better take notepad off my resume ;)
Aren't most job descriptions written by people who typically are in
ignorance of how the work is actually done? Most of the descriptions that I
pay attention too certainly give me that impression at least.
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Jeffry
I am able to write off my commutes from my home office to clients and I do
the commute often times 5 or more times a week and the bulk of my work is
done for the same client. The CPA is the one who figured out how to apply
that and what I am able to write off is the cost of the commute. But just
take an estimate of the total mileage drove.
>
> Although I do have the records for repairs, oil changes, etc... I've
> always taken the mileage deduction for "business car expenses."
>
> Aaron Rouse wrote:
> > Yeah, but prior to this year my CPA said that a log b
scan or snap a digital shot of receipts and upload the
> images
> as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:48 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Consultant vs. Employee
>
> Yeah, but prior t
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Yes. You should have proof of everything you claim in case of an audit and
> OMG I hate those receipts that fade to nothing! They should be illegal.
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Aar
; up with the changes if you do your own taxes. I'd recommend an accountant
> of
> course.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:33 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Consultant vs. Employee
>
can
> verify with my cpa when i get one? ! Live in california,any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> william
>
> William Seiter (mobile)
>
> Have you ever read a book that changed your life?
> go to: http://www.winninginthemargins.com
> and use passcode: GoldenGrove
>
If you write off a home office, just keep in mind you have to pay back some
deductions if/when you go to sell your home. I do not know all the
specifics on it but have been warned by many so just passing on the same
warning. You can write off certain aspects of a car purchase as well
although the
I'd talk to a CPA about what you can and can not do in regards to taxes.
When I first made he switch, I made some assumptions based on my research
and almost got bit hard come tax time.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:39 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just finished reading this artic
I think that is normally the case, I am seeming to recall certain forms of
labor in some of our businesses we had to do sales tax on. One could maybe
debate if code is a "product" though.
On Feb 3, 2008 10:24 PM, s. isaac dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In fact, I'm probably treated a bi
Sorry, but when I first ran into it is when I was doing
network/hardware/software consulting which was a number of years ago,
probably over 10 and I have long since slept since then. All I remember at
the time was there were some specific things that as an IT person we are
treated different than o
Some collective representation for IT workers has its advantages and I am
sure disadvantages as well. One thing that has always annoyed me is how IT
workers are treated by the tax man vs some other occupations and I think a
collective representation could have the power in numbers to change things
Interesting, $40/hr is really not a ton cheaper than what a lot of U.S.
developers will work for. We have paid anywhere from $40-60/hr for CF
developers. I personally have worked for anywhere from $30-80/hr, just
depended on the job, my schedule, and many other factors.
I have had trouble with b
They are trying to outsource things to other countries here, something they
have tried in the past and failed at. I personally do not see how it is
cheaper when their current method includes hiring up 36 IT Architects to
help develop all the "paper work" that will be used to build things. After
p
ton Tea Party.
>
> Now we budget 30, 40, even 50% of everything we earn to a government,
> and we do it willingly without rioting. =P How times change huh?
>
> Warm regards,
> Jordan Michaels
> Vivio Technologies
> http://www.viviotech.net/
> BlueDragon Allianc
going to be about right (look at your
> paychecks). But, as an employee your employer is paying some additional
> percentage of your salary (I believe 7.5%) to social security.
>
> When you're self employed, you have to pay both the employee and
> employer portion of Social Secur
The only thing that sucks about that is 1/3rd goes to taxes, correct? That
really is not a whole lot of money when you break it down. I can understand
rates to compete with people who telecommute from other countries although
quite honestly I have never ran into the need to compete with them sin
Was not meant as an insult. I have two good friends who joined the armed
forces and later after leaving became programmers. One was just a couple
credits shy of having a degree upon leaving the military and other had one,
both done through the armed forces, I think both associates degrees Both
m
Join the military, just try not to join a branch that will make ya a bullet
stopper
On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Still, I think it is an expensive way to gain a focus. Surely there
> must be more cost effective ways?
>
>
is, couldn't you have learned those things without taking the
> > class? Rather, could someone else have learned those concepts outside a
> > classroom?
> >
> > Look folks, I'm sorry I started a major upset on the list. My point
> > comes down to a simple sta
ob should put college experience above work experience.
>
> Sorry if you don't agree. :)
>
> Aaron Rouse wrote:
> > I currently take night and weekend classes for a computer based degree
> and
> > most of the classes I have taken did not deal a whole lot with
&g
I currently take night and weekend classes for a computer based degree and
most of the classes I have taken did not deal a whole lot with computers. I
have learned a lot though that I have been able to apply to my daily work.
On 8/27/07, Phillip M. Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
l I
finish this degree and will then move on.
On 8/27/07, sherri sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow... if you have been contracting with them for 6 years only because
> you
> did not have your degree. Not cool. I would look into that
>
> On 8/27/07, Aaron Rouse <[
Most jobs I have applied for required a 4 degree and some did prefer a
masters. Seems to be happening more and more these days. Matter of fact
the sole reason I have been doing contract work for 6+ years for the same
company is because they require a 4 year degree and I am a year or two away
from
The government does allow telecommuting to some extent though for their
employees but maybe it is less likely to happen for contract programmers. I
know the GAO did a report(GAO-05-1055R) that gave a rough overview of
teleworking methodologies for several agencies in the Federal government.
I too
There also is the issue of managing telecommuters. A lot of managers feel
the need to see people working to know that things are being done. I have
been reading through a book titled, "Telework and Social Change" it brings
up a lot of interesting issues for both teleworkers and companies that
d
Why not just install Homesite+ off of a DWMX or DW8 CD?
On 12/27/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There was a CF5 Studio?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dick Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:14 PM
> > To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> > Subject:
I do not know what the cost of living is in SF these days but imagine it has
not gone down since I looked into it a couple years back. So that does seem
really low to me but it has been my experience that often time job postings
get one title/description when in fact the job itself is something en
Personally I'd rather see stronger CFC and less CSS or perhaps just stronger
CFC. For 99% of the companies I have done work for they had designers who
made all the CSS, graphics, etc then had the CFM people come in and work the
magic to make it all dynamic. So with that being the case knowing CSS
Same here, was amazed the first few times it happened that recruiting had
been outsourced like that. I tried to nicely tell the first couple I was
not interested but after rewording that statement a few times without them
understanding what I was saying I finally just gave up. Probably does not
h
I think ugly commutes should be factored in. You get the added expense of
maintaining a vehicle more so it lasts day to day. Plus the huge added
aggravation of dealing with the commute. For the past 5-6 years I have been
commuting an insane amount and primarily because the money was just so
good
I have a feeling there are a lot of people out there who may not be very
productive working from home. I personally get a lot more done when working
from home than coming into the office. I even get more done when working at
home and watching my 4 year old than when at the office. However most o
So have you found that "one" ring yet? :P
On 3/8/06, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is in the language of Mordor which I will not utter here. :)
>
> > So the S stands for Sherry?
>
>
~|
Message: http://www.ho
So the S stands for Sherry?
On 3/8/06, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heh. I've mentioned it on cf-community in the past. :) Actually I
> accidentally posted the story to cf-talk too...
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:5/threadid:
> 15629
>
> > Susan
Considering he works for Adobe and prior for MACR, I'd guess he was not
making enough to put food on the table solely off book sales.
On 2/14/06, Steve Blades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > There is no money in publishing. unless you have massive sales. There
> >aren't enough CF Developers to
Very true, I used to work for a decently sized private University and while
the pay was not all that great the benefits more than made up for it.
Unfortunately I left it because our department was not rock solid and was
uncertain where it was going at the same time a contracting company came
knocki
I think with it being quite commonly spelled both ways it might be good to
mix it up on resumes ;) That way it might make it through any automatic
filtering
On 1/25/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Also, as Beau points out, it's quite common to see it used both ways
> in j
When I was working through a recruiter or at least I guess that is what they
were called, I happened to get told one time what they were charging for me
and it was somewhere in the 200-300% range over what I was getting paid. I
typically stay away from those situations these days, more because of
At one of the places I do work at there are some people there who have been
doing CFM work for every bit of 5 years and have no idea what cfqueryparam
is amongst many other things. Then I know we have Lotus Notes people who
have similar "flaws"
On 1/11/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have been rather busy starting sometime around the begining of December.
I have been turning down a few new jobs since most of my existing network of
contacts has been keeping me busy. I know in my area of at least 1 full
time CFM job but not sure if any others.
On 1/5/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL
I have never been in the position to hire someone to do telecommuting work
for me. I have however done telecommuting work for several places and some
of which get on these lists. Hopefully some of these comments help.
I do not think for any of them there was something I'd label as a interview
p
Perhaps it is in Beta or Alpha or RC, of course talking about such things I
am sure is against an NDA
On 8/8/05, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Merrimack is not out yet and this person already has experience with it.
> S/he is truly an expert:-)
>
> Sorry, I don't mean to be mean, b
I think every person is different in their ability to learn things. I state
this because when I got around to learning CFCs I picked them up in no time
at all, probably a matter of days. I did not even use any online tutorials
or really even look much in the documents. What I did was looked at s
icSynthesis
> Tel: 240.498.8951
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.logicsynthesis.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:13 AM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Methods of contact
>
ces outside of work I have
> given
> >the number to. Did not dawn on me during the phone call to ask how they
> got
> >it, did email the person though asking them but never got a response.
> >
> >--
> >Aaron Rouse
> >http://www.happyhacker.com/
>
>
could count on one hand how many people/places outside of work I have given
the number to. Did not dawn on me during the phone call to ask how they got
it, did email the person though asking them but never got a response.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com
True, although from what I recall they wanted the person to be available for
a lot of hours per week. Almost too many for a student if I am remembering
the number right.
On 7/5/05, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Or a student who happened to start learning at a very early age and
gt; support you (and you think you get paid way too much for that job), we
> want you!
>
> I really like how the URL at the end refuses connections.
>
> On 7/4/05, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > By reading that job posting, ANY benifit would be considered d
By reading that job posting, ANY benifit would be considered decent. I know
what walmart offers is a lot better than the nothing I get right now.
On 7/4/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Decent benifits and Walmart don't go together...
>
> Adam H
>
There are some jobs with Walmart that pay more than $10/hr and offer some
decent benifits and take very little brain thought.
On 7/3/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yikes I know people that work in our stores' deli deptartments
> cutting slices of Meat that make more than that w
I just glanced at the first article but do any of them mention if there is
any relation between "certified workers" and job security?
On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Interesting read:
>
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/labor/story/0,10801,102324,0
Very true, also sometimes a CFUG will get contacted by a company directly
and then the posting is passed onto the members.
On 6/10/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd also try finding and getting involved in your local CFUG. Many
> (most?) of the best jobs are never posted
Which still does not return the unique identifier(the value of
SEQNAME.NEXTVAL) to the CFM page. The lack of returning a the unique
identifier was one of the big hang ups given against CFINSERT. A simple
trigger in the database and making sure form fields use the same names as
columns would mak
It is SEQNAME.NEXTVAL in Oracle and I'd like to see how you get that to work
in a single CFQUERY that returns NEWID to the CFM page. Using two CFQUERies
would at least avoid the need to "lock" anything.
On 5/12/05, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> with oracle vernacular the word
That syntax is not even valid for all databases. An example I am thinking of
is how to return the identity when using Oracle. I know the syntax to use if
just in a SQL client, tried it with a couple of versions of DB drivers with
CF and never had it work. Of course it could simple just be done w
CFQUERY will not return back a new identity either, well depending on the
database chosen it will not without a second cfquery. Just curious, not
implying anything wrong with it one bit, but what are your reasonings for
using almost all SPs for your DB work? Also curious the reasons for that
si
These two I seem to never come across, do many people come across code using
them?
On 5/11/05, Glenn Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm also not too fond of code that uses CFINSERT and CFUPDATE usage
> instead
> of calling a proc or doing it via cfquery.
>
>
>
~~
What I have seen some do is put URL and FORM into the REQUEST scope and then
reference that scope.
> On 5/9/05, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If a page can be accessed via both "url requests" and "form posts" how
> > does one handle a variable that may be in either scope? Do ya'l
I tend to scope these, it is not out of worry of me not knowing what I am
referencing or even of someone else coming in and not knowing. I think it is
more of just out of habbit and it just gets typed. I do know at one time I
came across a prior developers work who would be in a and they would
I agree 100% on this, there have been countless times where I was trying to
determine where #blah# came from. Of course it does not help when dealing
with someones code who could have #blah# coming from 3-4 different scopes,
just all depends on which method they took to load up the page.
On 5/9
This could be purposely done and part of someones style. I always do the
method but have seen the other route taken from
rather knowledgable people. At what point do you decide it would be easier
to follow some nested if's over one single long if statement. I can not
really think of an example
I am sure you can, however I am referring to the blatantly obvious places it
is not needed and does nothing more than slow down a page from loading. It
shows that someone does not fully understand what I would consider basic SQL
and CFM skills.
On 5/9/05, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
3. Queries inside of a cfloop or cfoutput (with the query attribute of
course) and could have easily been avoided with a simple join in their
original query.
On 5/9/05, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our
> w
I see, this explains why one of our senior developers matches your beginner
developer description.
On 5/6/05, Gregory Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Senior implies pure tenure IMHO...I figure you earn the title senior
> when you've been at your company longer than 75% of the developers th
Dang your guru definition makes several self-proclaimed CF gurus look like
near mid-level guys ;)
What is your definition of Senior? I'd assume that is in between mid and
guru or does it just jump straight to guru for you?
On 5/6/05, Gregory Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok my 2 cents.
. Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's crazy, the cost of running one of those vessels just can't be cost
> effective.
>
> Fred
>
> On Friday 29 April 2005 16:10, Aaron Rouse wrote:
> > Maybe they could put a ship out off the
Only 50+ ? Man, you should see some of the nightmares I have to support
here. One that I have been battling to get to work all week literally had at
least 200k(through loops). Have it down to 59k and one stored proc, which is
still ugly but was a choice of either get it working in CFMX or go bac
Perhaps what you think is mid-level, others think is jr level? What does a
Jr level CF person get in that area?
I once applied for a Sr level full time job here with this company I am at
now as a contractor. They never posted the pay range, I just assumed it
wouldbe around what everyone else pa
Maybe they could put a ship out off the coast near NYC
http://www.sea-code.com/
On 4/29/05, Kristopher Pilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You could outsource the spot? Probally cost you 1k per month for a guy
> in India.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PR
I took "advantage" of this last year since a 1099 and self-employed and
needed a new vehicle. I went out and bought a truck that was of the proper
weight class so was able to right off a huge chunk of its purchase price and
that helped me out enormously with taxes for 2004. Too bad I am thus far
I was curious about that as well. Right now I am doing 1099 and making my
quartly payments. I figure about 35% of my income towards taxes. When I look
at my paychecks I feel like a rich man, too bad once I pay taxes(on my own)
and deal with medical and so on, I am not really clearing a ton of mo
It is a specific site, I tried some random searches on google before
replying earlier. However as luck would have it, I can not find the thing
when I actually want to find it. Here is what I thought it was in reference
to, now that I found it maybe I am wrong since it is "experts exchange"
http
I believe it is in reference to a question/answer site online for technical
related issues. It used to always be one of the first links from google when
I would be searching on a specific thing.
On Apr 11, 2005 12:37 PM, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm confused...
> when you s
Guess it depends, I could see how learning a new language could be
called learning a new skill.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:07:21 -0500, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hear people say that a lot. I really don't know if I agree. Languages
> come and go, but the concepts behind the lang
t; larry
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> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:15:59 -0600, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there really such a thing as job security? :)
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:20:21 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
Is there really such a thing as job security? :)
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:20:21 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "...it needs to be made inefficient."
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> looking for job security Aaron?
>
> larry
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> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:04:48 -060
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