I've never scanned any music to work with in Finale, so I guess I was
envisioning more rhythm and pitch errors than the type that you mention. I
realize that if elements are showing up in the wrong tool ("ties
misinterpreted as slurs and tempo markings misinterpreted as song verse")
different prob
At 09:43 PM 2/9/2004, Don Hart wrote:
I would think that proofing by playback, at least in most cases, would
make
95% accuracy work pretty well, as opposed to reentering
everything. Even if
both methods were a wash timewise, scanning would break the routine, and
that can sometimes be its own ble
I would think that proofing by playback, at least in most cases, would make
95% accuracy work pretty well, as opposed to reentering everything. Even if
both methods were a wash timewise, scanning would break the routine, and
that can sometimes be its own blessing.
Don Hart
on 2/9/04 4:46 PM,
On 09 Feb 2004, at 06:59 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
There are some good reasons I can think of for his notation, for
example, if another instrument somewhere IS covering that last eighth
note triplet,
Nope.
I guess you know better than I do, but I would still go with the
triplet normally
At 6:07 PM -0500 2/09/04, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 09 Feb 2004, at 05:01 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
It looks to me that the difference between your first solution and this
quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: an eighth
note followed by a sixteenth note, half rest
is onl
On 09 Feb 2004, at 05:01 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
It looks to me that the difference between your first solution and this
quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: an eighth note
followed by a sixteenth note, half rest
is only the length of the last note. If you needed the la
At 8:06 AM -0500 2/09/04, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Okay,
In 4/4, one normally "shows" beat 3 of a measure when it contains
eighth note values or smaller.
However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following rhythm:
quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: two eighth
At 11:11 AM -0500 2/09/04, Darcy James Argue wrote:
There's still all of Sibelius's blatant claims along the lines of
"Finale can't do this," or "Sibelius is the *only* music notation
program that does that."
There are a couple of unique features that caught my eye when I saw
the Sibelius 2 d
On Feb 9, 2004, at 9:44 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
Note bene: I am not familiar with note scanning software.
I am _extremely_ familiar with character scanning software.
"95% accuracy" in scanning conversion to text produces a useless
document. It is more work to clean up that mess than to retype i
On 09 Feb 2004, at 03:55 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Feb 9, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
In 4/4, one normally "shows" beat 3 of a measure when it contains
eighth note values or smaller.
However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following
rhythm:
[...]
In other word
On Feb 9, 2004, at 4:28 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
There's actually FOUR kinds of lies, to paraphrase Mark Twain (I think
he originated it): 1) Lies, 2) Damn Lies, 3) Statistics and
4) Marketing.
The line appears in Twain's autobiography, but he himself attributes it
to Benjamin Disraeli. More
On Feb 9, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
In 4/4, one normally "shows" beat 3 of a measure when it contains
eighth note values or smaller.
However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following
rhythm:
[...]
In other words, an eighth-note triplet starting on the "and"
On Feb 9, 2004, at 6:12 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only
the final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth note?
Two eighth rests followed by the sixteenth note?
Four sixteenth
On 09.02.2004 12:45 Uhr, Matthew Naughtin wrote
> This has probably been discussed before, but I'll ask anyway:
> a composer I work with has some old files of a piece that was engraved using
> Score. Is there any way for me to translate these over into Finale?
Finale can import Score files. I hav
This has probably been discussed before, but I'll ask anyway:
a composer I work with has some old files of a piece that was engraved using
Score. Is there any way for me to translate these over into Finale?
Matt Naughtin
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Have you tried to tell automated Sprint "what the problem is" _Sometimes_,
that even works. Also, of course, tuners have become pretty discriminating.
The difference between all of these applications and a notation program,
though, is rhythm. Placing all of this in exact relation to meter is a
w
I have seen a quarter rest, followed by a sixteenth, with a bracket over
both, on occasion. As long as the bracket is obvious, it is clear enough.
Raymond Horton
Louisville Orchestra
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i'd prefer de original notation, that is a triplet starting at the second
half oh the second beat. i used that kind of rhythms a lot, and in my
experience the mentioned solution was the best one. i feel this applies to
moderate to fast tempi. if it's to slow, say m.m.40, probably your secon
Sure--Chord Tool, Chord Menu, choose 1-staff or 2-staff analysis. If
your score is one part per staff, then you will have to implode first.
I don't know how accurate it would be--I'm sure it depends on the
degree of correlation between the harmonies in the piece and the
contents of your chord
I believe he said 97%, but I don't recall the percentage with 100 %
accuracy, or something like that. All I know is my violist friend, who has
been using Finale for years, is now scanning rather than any of his other
note entry choices, when it comes to entering a clean printed work. Enough
said.
Isn't there a way to have fin2004 tell you the
names of chords by annalyzing a four part vocal score? I thought I read it
somewhere and now I can't find it.
I'm using winXP. Thanks
for any help.
George Ports
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I remember the old days when not even 8va signs
could playback correctly! Then I remember Tobias Giesen issuing string harmonics
with playback in TGTools. It's been great until HP in Fin2k4, but that's another
thing that's been discussed elsewhere.
Now I'm facing this difficulty: Some compo
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At 2/9/2004 12:17 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
>"Lies" is a strong word, and here, unjustified.
>
>But I would have agreed with you on the scanning until last week. A friend
>of mine (a viola player and user of WinFin2003) astounded me, just a few
>days ago, by telling me that he has been having gre
> > I do notice nobody has jumped in to defend Micnotator at all. :)
> >
> > David H. Bailey
You're right there. I know I am more certain of the keyboard than my voice,
so why shouldn't I assume Finale would be? (In other words, I've never
tried it.)
RH
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On 09 Feb 2004, at 10:58 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
I do notice nobody has jumped in to defend Micnotator at all. :)
It makes me wonder... if SmartMusic does a fairly decent job of
assessing student performance, why can't MicNotator render performances
with anything even approaching accuracy?
"Lies" is a strong word, and here, unjustified.
But I would have agreed with you on the scanning until last week. A friend
of mine (a viola player and user of WinFin2003) astounded me, just a few
days ago, by telling me that he has been having great success scanning.
After some trial and error, h
I just stumbled across this, and I thought I should share this info:
There is a very simple but effective booklet printing solution for MacOs X
available at
www.metaobject.com
it's not free, I think it costs around 50 $. Probably worth the price. I
only had a brief look at it but it seems to do
On 09.02.2004 16:58 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote
> It may be better, but not much better -- I just tried to scan a
> 24-staff, finale-printed score and smartscore won't accept it. Reading
> the documentation for Finale, it states right from the start, don't scan
> anything with more than 16-staves
David wrote:
I do notice nobody has jumped in to defend Micnotator at all. :)
I would have, except that I make it a matter of personal policy never to
defend something I don't know how to pronounce.
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On 9 Feb 2004 at 18:17, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
> > I do notice nobody has jumped in to defend Micnotator at all. :)
> >
> > David H. Bailey
>
> Ha! It's enough to try to develop error-free voice activated macros!
> Even that is basically impossible. Or have the technologies changed
> since
> I do notice nobody has jumped in to defend Micnotator at all. :)
>
> David H. Bailey
Ha! It's enough to try to develop error-free voice activated macros! Even
that is basically impossible. Or have the technologies changed since about
two years ago, when I tried this? Anybody using those?
Liuda
On 9 Feb 2004 at 10:16, Andrew Stiller wrote:
> >David W. Fenton écrit:
> >>Then why is 3/2 completely unacceptable?
> >
> >Well, it would involve cutting all the measures in two, and I don't
> >really see the point in it. The presence of a section in 6/4 isn't
> >the only reason against changing
On 09 Feb 2004, at 10:58 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
It may be better, but not much better -- I just tried to scan a
24-staff, finale-printed score and smartscore won't accept it.
Reading the documentation for Finale, it states right from the start,
don't scan anything with more than 16-staves
[Darcy James Argue:]
>> What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only the
>> final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
Is there a standard way? It seems sufficiently uncommon that I can't think
of any standard method.
[David H. Bailey:]
>I would put 4
It may be better, but not much better -- I just tried to scan a
24-staff, finale-printed score and smartscore won't accept it. Reading
the documentation for Finale, it states right from the start, don't scan
anything with more than 16-staves in it. So anybody who bought the
program hoping to
At 10:35 AM 2/9/04 -0500, David H. Bailey wrote:
>I would put 4 16th-rests so the rhythm of the quintuplet is readily
>apparent.
There's my opinion as well.
That's only for rests, though -- note groupings are an entirely different
matter, and sometimes tough to decode, whether composer, engraver
I would put 4 16th-rests so the rhythm of the quintuplet is readily
apparent.
David H. Bailey
Darcy James Argue wrote:
What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only the
final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth not
On 09.02.2004 13:28 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote
> Scanning, for instance -- Yes, it is possible to scan a perfectly
> printed version of Mary Had a Little Lamb (as melody only) into Finale,
> using its built-in scanning capability. However for any serious
> scanning of, say, a complex piano score
He's also the author of FinaleScript and the Text Search and Replace
plug-ins...
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David W. Fenton écrit:
Then why is 3/2 completely unacceptable?
Well, it would involve cutting all the measures in two, and I don't
really see the point in it. The presence of a section in 6/4 isn't
the only reason against changing the 6/2 to 6/4. We've discussed
this here already, and I (and ot
On 09 Feb 2004, at 10:08 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only
the final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth note?
Two eighth rests followed by the sixtee
Darcy James Argue wrote:
What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only
the final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth note?
Two eighth rests followed by the sixteenth note?
Four sixteenth rests followed by the sixtee
I sent a request in German to Klemm Musik and got a quick
and positive reply on the NOVEMBER font:
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(a rouch translation:)
Good day, Mr Story.
The font "November" will soon, probably in February, also be available
for OS X. The updater is already in house; we shall offer
What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only the
final note is played? What do you put under the bracket:
A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth note?
Two eighth rests followed by the sixteenth note?
Four sixteenth rests followed by the sixteenth note?
- Darcy
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At 08:06 AM 2/9/04 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following
>rhythm:
>quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: two eighth notes
>followed an eighth rest - eighth rest - quarter rest
>What say you all?
This doesn't strike m
You could always try a fine dotted barline with a small (3) in parenthesis
above it just to show that it is written as intended.
Liudas
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Either will be hard to read (and try to count) at first glance. So I
would probably just put the triplet there without any tie to show the
half-measure as probably being only slightly less confusing.
David H. Bailey
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Okay,
In 4/4, one normally "shows" beat 3 of a me
I think you can simply write the second eighth of the eighth note triplet as
a sixteenth tied to another sixteenth, and the second sixteenth will fall on
beat 3. Looks weird, but less weird than what you were suggesting.
Liudas
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Okay,
In 4/4, one normally "shows" beat 3 of a measure when it contains
eighth note values or smaller.
However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following
rhythm:
quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: two eighth notes
followed an eighth rest - eighth rest - qu
Finale has out and out lied, if you think that advertising a feature
that doesn't work very well constitutes a lie (I do.)
Scanning, for instance -- Yes, it is possible to scan a perfectly
printed version of Mary Had a Little Lamb (as melody only) into Finale,
using its built-in scanning capabi
On 09.02.2004 1:23 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>> Well, I don't know the piece in question, but you couldn't normally
>> notate a 6/8 piece in 3/8 either. The two are fundamentally different.
>
> Yes, but the question is one of whether or not the music can be
> conveyed in the modern meter in a fa
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