Good talk and tips, thank you all. I will test the mentioned methods soon.
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Em domingo, 13 de fevereiro de 2022 às 3:20 PM, Ray Davison
escreveu:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>
> > [GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
> >
> > > Using
Ray Davison wrote:
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
You just n
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
You just need a real boot mana
Yes, when booting to Freedos (or DrDos) it wll be C: and my W95 will be
D: and a logical partiton E:
booting to W95 it will be C: and freedos/drdos will be D: and te logical E:
booting to linux it will be on hd1 (swap on hda2 and backup on hda3) and
freedos on hb1 and drdos on hb2 and w95 on h
>> The problem with this approach is that the programs are almost
>> never on C:, and they may not be on D: either. The way I manage
>> that is to set myself up an S: ("System") drive which is where the
>> programs are located. I use whatever tools I have available in the
>> DOS I'm using to do t
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 01:52, Travis Siegel wrote:
>
> Not true.
Sometimes true.
> If both of the partitions are primary partitions, and the bootable flag is
> swapped from one to the other, then when one boots, the second will be drive
> d:, and vice versa.
It depends on the OSes in use.
Th
Hmm.
I have two primary partitions, Freedos and DrDos on a drive and only
the active one is visible.
I have 3 drives, first one has Damn Small Linux and LILO as boot
manager second has Freedos and Drdos and the third Windows 95 (with Lite
Step shell).
In DSL I can mount them all, bootin
Not true.
If both of the partitions are primary partitions, and the bootable flag
is swapped from one to the other, then when one boots, the second will
be drive d:, and vice versa. I used to use the fdisk method all the
time, I dual booted linux, and dos, so I see no reason why it wouldn't
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 00:28, Bret Johnson wrote:
>
> Even in Virtual machines, I always set up very small "boot drive" (usually
> only a few MB) as C:. It only contains the things required to boot and a few
> basic utilities (including a simple text editor).
Yep, when I was putting in Windows
> Small primary FAT16 partition with FreeDOS. Bigger primary FAT32
> partition with Win9x. Then an extended partition, with some logical
> drives in it, which will be visible to both.
Even in Virtual machines, I always set up very small "boot drive" (usually only
a few MB) as C:. It only contain
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 23:09, Björn Morell wrote:
>
> If you want to access one from the other you cannot as it will be hidden, for
> that to work you need separat drives
Not really, no.
Small primary FAT16 partition with FreeDOS. Bigger primary FAT32
partition with Win9x. Then an extended part
If you want to access one from the other you cannot as it will be
hidden, for that to work you need separat drives or the coplcated
method, if not xfdisk on a bootable floppy or usb will be handy while
installing.
Den 2022-02-11 kl. 22:14, skrev [GlassNerves] via Freedos-user:
Thanks for the
Thanks for the answers guys. I see i have a lot of options.
I don't wanna to install FreeDOS in the same partition of Windows 98 because
this is complicated as hell. I will make two partitions and will be using the
xfdisk method.
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 18:17, Bret Johnson wrote:
>
> I still have a computer (not hooked up to a keyboard or monitor any more)
> which uses an old commercial program called System Commander.
I remember that. It was pretty good, yeah.
I was a PowerQuest fan back in the day, so for many years I
I still have a computer (not hooked up to a keyboard or monitor any more) which
uses an old commercial program called System Commander. System Commander would
let you load several different versions of DOS on the same C: drive. I think I
have about 10 different versions of DOS on the same C: p
H !
How about making 2 partitions on the drive and use xfdisk to make the
partitions whitch have a boot manager that hide and shows desired
partition ? Install Freedos and xfdisk on the first and then hide it
and instal windows on the second.
Den 2022-02-11 kl. 09:40, skrev Eric Auer:
Hi!
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
It is possible, but not easy to install. Both Win98 and FreeDOS
can use the same FAT32 C: drive, so you need a boot sector side
boot menu such as my "metakern". You can also use a MBR style
boot menu which alternately hides o
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
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Hi Eric,
inspired by your mail (and also help from others in the list! Thank you,
folks!) I did the following:
- I made a simple check of booting times:
(startup when I hit the computers power button till the moment the
system is working)
FreeDOS starting from HD
Hi Thomas,
> A dual boot Windows+FreeDos would be absolutely my preferred system...
Can your Windows version resize itself? Can it create a FAT partition
for DOS in some other way? Then I think you should do that, maybe
already copy the contents of the DOS install disk there and boot
the DOS in
Hi Eric, thanks for the great reply (again!)
Yes, indeed, this sounds very interesting: (and maybe also to other folks, to
work with, try or get to know FreeDOS.)
> On Sun,20210418- week15, at 21:01, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> So depending on how much you want
> it, we could write some howto about
ne)
Anyway, for dual boot issues you will be better advised by more experienced
Freesdos members.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:52:48 +0100
From: stav...@gmail.com
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freedos-user] dual boot
Hello,
just created a FAT32 partition (alongside NTFS parti
Nils Stavlid composed on 2016-01-02 20:52 (UTC+0100):
,
> just created a FAT32 partition (alongside NTFS partition with windows xp
> installed) and installed FreeDOS 1.1 from CD on that partition. However,
> I´m unable to get to boot FreeDOS, win xp jumps in every time. Since I´m
> totaly newbie
Hello,
just created a FAT32 partition (alongside NTFS partition with windows xp
installed) and installed FreeDOS 1.1 from CD on that partition. However,
I´m unable to get to boot FreeDOS, win xp jumps in every time. Since I´m
totaly newbie I´m hoping for someone to help me out...
Best regards & Ha
> Maybe you should reread what I wrote previously:
Right, sorry. I didn't look into that.
> grub> root (hd0,0)
> grub> setup (hd0,0)
> grub> quit
I thought you were referring to how to *load* FreeDOS from within GRUB,
considering how that was the topic previously. But that's of course
instal
On 2012-09-19 02:21 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>> A:\> SYS C:
>> [...]
>> A:\> FDISK /MBR
> Yep, you successfully circumvented GRUB now =P
Maybe you should reread what I wrote previously:
grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0,0)
grub> quit
Grub doesn't need to be on the MBR, and I never p
> A:\> SYS C:
>
> [...]
>
> A:\> FDISK /MBR
Yep, you successfully circumvented GRUB now =P
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On 2012-09-19 02:05 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>> grub> root (hd0,0)
>> grub> setup (hd0,0)
>> grub> quit
>> Oh so difficult,
> That also requires the boot sector to /already/ be set up correctly, just
> in the partition itself this time =)
Another toughie:
A:\> SYS C:
Or, maybe you mean
> grub> root (hd0,0)
> grub> setup (hd0,0)
> grub> quit
>
> Oh so difficult,
That also requires the boot sector to /already/ be set up correctly, just
in the partition itself this time =)
> shenanigans, and 5-10 times the HD space sprawled across several
> directories and/or partitions, require
On 2012-09-19 00:58 (GMT+0200) C. Masloch composed:
>>> I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00 supports FreeDOS.
>> So does Grub Legacy, [...]
> As opposed to GRUB 2, it additionally needs setting up the correct boot
> sector file (to be chainloaded from GRUB for loading the kernel)
gru
>> I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00 supports FreeDOS.
>
> So does Grub Legacy, [...]
As opposed to GRUB 2, it additionally needs setting up the correct boot
sector file (to be chainloaded from GRUB for loading the kernel), which is
possible using FreeDOS's SYS.
There's a fork ca
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>Again, would dual boot be a good idea?
>
> I've been multibooting about 20 years, with DOS on a 1st HD primary included
> in most cases. It's really not difficult to set up or use any DOS version via
> multiboot.
Vista and 7 let y
On 2012-09-18 18:32 (GMT-0300) Marcos Favero Florence de Barros composed:
>And if DosEmu can't do it, would dual boot (Grub) be a
>good idea? I read the announcement in July that Grub 2.00
>supports FreeDOS.
So does Grub Legacy, which is much simpler to install, configure
> Is DosEmu actually capable of working with Portuguese
> diacritics and supporting a standard Brazilian keyboard in
> the first place?
It's probably possible, but it might require configuring dosemu more, or
maybe even patching dosemu's source.
> And if DosEmu can't do
Hi,
I have a couple of friends who would like to run DataPerfect
databases in their Linux and Windows computers.
-- Linux: I tried DosEmu, but could not make it work
correctly with the accents (diacritics) of the Portuguese
language. Don't know if the problem is keyboard- or
If you want to boot multiple OSs you should get real boot manager. For
years I ran System Commander. A couple years ago that started having
problems with OS/2 on some mother boards. Since then I have been using
Acronis OS Selector. It will run as many versions of DOS and W9X on a
single C p
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From: "kurt godel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Eric,
> actually, I tried to put the 98 on top of the FreeDos *both ways*, once from
> FreeDos, and another time with a
> bona fide 98 floppy boot image, which I had put on a cd (iso image, etc.).
> Th
Eric,
actually, I tried to put the 98 on top of the FreeDos *both ways*, once from
FreeDos, and another time with a
bona fide 98 floppy boot image, which I had put on a cd (iso image, etc.).
The latest thing I tried was to first
load the fdos to 'c', reboot, then reboot again off the 98 cd boot cd.
Hi,
you could use WinVista's bootloader.
two ways:
1a)install winvista on fat32 (first you have to install onto ntfs, then
copy to fat32 etc. google for it)
1b) or make 2 partitions, one with FAT32 and one with NTFS, install Vista
at the NTFS drive
2) boot into freedos (via CD) and type "sys
If you want to control your dual boot in depth it may pay you to
download the beta version of Vista boot pro at http://www.vistabootpro.org/
Hope this helps a little more :o)
Regards Geoff
Dr. Geoffrey West wrote:
> If you use Vista's partition program in the administrators mode it will
> arra
If you use Vista's partition program in the administrators mode it will
arrange the dual boot itself...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm going to be installing MS Vista on one of my computers soon.
>
> I'd like to also install freedos on the same machine. Can anyone recommend a
> dual
Hi All,
I'm going to be installing MS Vista on one of my computers soon.
I'd like to also install freedos on the same machine. Can anyone recommend a
dual boot program ?
Thanks,
Tim
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:47:58 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>It's probably time to update the screen snaps to the new version
>of gparted. The new version supposedly allows setting the "LBA"
>flag (partition type change) from within gparted instead of
>having to use the Linux fdisk, which will simpl
Hi Johnson:
It's probably time to update the screen snaps to the new version
of gparted. The new version supposedly allows setting the "LBA"
flag (partition type change) from within gparted instead of
having to use the Linux fdisk, which will simplify the procedure
if it works correctly.
The ne
Hi Mark,
Sorry, got lot of work.
Now I return to improve the document, but I don't have the screen
capture program, can you send me? And please teach me how to save the
captured screen on the root directory.
Thanks.
Rgds,
Johnson.
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Problem Solved !!
A Giant Thank You to Eric Auer and Kenneth J. Davis. Without a floppy
drive present, the drive numbering was wrong, giving the DJ Mechanism
failure message.
FreeDOS install done via ODIN 1.44 floppy, then kernel.sys replaced.
Both kernels listed below worked but I will stic
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:20:30 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
>There was a recent fix to the unstable kernel to better support
>floppyless systems. If possible please try a current 2035w from
>http://www.fdos.org/kernel/ and let me know if that makes a difference.
>Note: -W is the development [UNS
Robert Ralston wrote:
...
But with kernel 1.1.35w Build 2035w-unstable from the 1440 ODIN
distribution, everything works with a laptop *if and only if* there is
a floppy drive present. If there is a floppy drive either in a bay or
connected via USB, then the FreeDOS partition boots normally
We use FreeDOS on laptops for an easy software refresh procedure.
Hard drive is 2 primary partitions, 15 and 5 GB for example, with XP
on big one, FreeDOS on small one.
With Norton's scriptable gdisk32 on XP side, we can unhide and make
active the FreeDOS partition, run ghost from the FreeDOS
Gerry Hickman wrote:
This was perfect until head office upgraded to Windows Server 2003 and
now it doesn't work because FreeDOS can't use Kerberos, or sign the SMB
packets:(
Oops, as Eric Auer points out, it's not that FreeDOS can't use Kerberos,
but more a case of an updated network client
Hi Carl,
As far as I know SAMBA has begun to implement them, although there was
some dispute as to reliability last time it was discussed. I agree about
the porting too, I'm not even aware of a true FreeDOS network client,
let alone one with these facilities? I currently have to use Microsoft'
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 19:06 +, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> >> 1. LM authentication
> >> 2. SMB signing
>
> > Does Samba support those things? If so then at least there is hope that one
> > could port parts of the Samba code to DOS. I suppose the encryption code
> > may take up sign
Hi David,
1. LM authentication
2. SMB signing
Does Samba support those things? If so then at least there is hope that one
could port parts of the Samba code to DOS. I suppose the encryption code
may take up significantly more memory though?
As far as I know SAMBA has begun to implement th
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From: Gerry Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Mark,
>
>
> As you say, this sounds like a good reason to use a hard disk, although
> I'm somewhat confused as to why it can't use the memory and disk caching
> to achieve it's goal?
Well, no
Hi Mark,
just run your programs from there.
Actually, unfortunately not for the ham radio applications I use at
least. I need to be able to write to the hard disk while maintaining
real-time performance for sending morse code, so...The USB sticks are
too slow
As you say, this sounds like a
Hi Gerry,
> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:02:26 +
> From: Gerry Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> However, two recent changes to Windows networks have relegated FreeDOS
> to the recycle bin:
>
> 1. LM authentication is no longer enabled once a corporation moves to
> Windows Server 2003. No IT manager
Gerry Hickman wrote:
Hi Mark,
"I just got a brand new computer with WindowsXP. I want
to install FreeDOS on that computer but I don't
want to change my WindowsXP installation."
I've never really understood this.
1. Nearly anything you'd ever want to do in FreeDOS can be done without
goin
Hi Mark,
"I just got a brand new computer with WindowsXP. I want
to install FreeDOS on that computer but I don't
want to change my WindowsXP installation."
I've never really understood this.
1. Nearly anything you'd ever want to do in FreeDOS can be done without
going anywhere near a hard d
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:41:10 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>There is a nice Linux bootable CD which contains GParted
>and a few limited tools. I could take that CD, add
>FreeDOS and customize it a bit. (It is under the GPL).
>It is MUCH smaller than the Mutagenix image I suggest in
>the current dr
Hi Johnson:
I've been thinking about how to make this easier to do.
Again, the target of the dual boot is someone who says
"I just got a brand new computer with WindowsXP. I want
to install FreeDOS on that computer but I don't
want to change my WindowsXP installation."
The procedure I've writt
this happened at all.
Takes maybe 15 minutes after you've done it once! :-)
Mark
Schumacher, Gordon wrote:
Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500
# From: Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
# Subject: Re: [
Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500
# From: Mark Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
# Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers
needed
#
# I was thinking a bit more about aut
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:38:02 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>Not if the free alternatives work and are just as easy to use...
>and they are! Grab a new WindowsXP machine and do this
>procedure...you will be very happy with the result. :-)
Not exactly, don't estimate the stupidity of human, in my c
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:25:46 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed
>and configured. Often, people immediately add
>software and spend a lot of time configuring it...
>I sure do.
Yes, I did the same time consuming job, so I can understand adding
FreeDOS w
Hi Johnson:
Johnson Lam wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
> ...Partition Magic discussion...deleted
If it's 100% reliable, still worth to pay them, but it's not!
Not if the free alternatives work and are just as easy to use...
and they are! Grab a new Window
Hi Johnson:
The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed
and configured. Often, people immediately add
software and spend a lot of time configuring it...
I sure do.
My experience suggests that people would rather use an
old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing
WindowsXP. I h
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>possibly, SP 1). And, Partition Magic is expensive
>and has a restrictive license (use on one computer,
>blah, blah, blah...).
If it's 100% reliable, still worth to pay them, but it's not!
>Many of the Linux installers don't automate thi
Hi Johnson:
I was thinking a bit more about automating this. We
MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer
to automatically, under carefully defined conditions,
shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32
partition. AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all.
Partition Magic jus
Hi Johnson:
No, this is just an update to the procedure. Heck, I
can't even use the FreeDOS automated installers, since
they trash C: which is often a recovery partition.
I suppose someone more skilled than I could script the
Linux stuff and try to automate this.
Mark
Johnson Lam wrote:
On S
Oops, I thought this was a private reply. The FreeDOS
installer doesn't "trash" C:...it does automatically
install a very clever dual boot technique on C: if
it finds DOS (or possibly some versions of Windows)
on that partition, with reference to another partition
if you are installing there.
Th
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:41:12 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
>I am working on the next version of a procedure to add
>FreeDOS to almost any WindowsXP computer in a dual-boot
>configuration and WITHOUT destroying the WindowsXP
Great, on the Internet there're some guide to this, but all of them is
inst
Good day, all:
I am working on the next version of a procedure to add
FreeDOS to almost any WindowsXP computer in a dual-boot
configuration and WITHOUT destroying the WindowsXP
installation. When the computer boots, you can select
either WindowsXP or FreeDOS.
I'm using open source Linux tools t
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