Re: Linux on old laptop - still trying...

2006-06-05 Thread Tom Buskey
or is really broken.  This is not unusual.My Fedora 4 system disables ACPI checking on a pre 1999 BIOS.  I imagine a P150 laptop is 1997 era.I'd say Ubuntu needs a much more modern system with more power/ram/disk. What modern distributions will work well on P150 systems?Is it better to go retro w/ Redhat 7 era distributions?

Re: Linux on old laptop - still trying...

2006-06-05 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I found some reference to turning this off via a kernel parameter ... > > Yes. I think the syntax is "acpi=off". We've got grub kernel params of 'noapic', is there also a noacpi? A quick googling for noacpi yields 'pci=noacpi' references. -- Seeya, P

Re: Linux on old laptop - still trying...

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/5/06, Tech Writer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I started up the Ubunu install, but it got caught up at: ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP If I did my googling right, that means ... Yah. In short, ACPI isn't there or is really broken. This is not unusual. What is ACPI, you ask? It's a way

Re: Linux on old laptop - still trying...

2006-06-05 Thread Tech Writer
ink I'll try DSL next. Peg - Original Message - From: "Bill Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tech Writer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "GNHLUG User Group" Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages Ubuntu is

Re: Speed of Java (was: Linux on old laptop in two stages)

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/5/06, Richard Soule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got a 1.6GHz Pentium laptop with 2GB of ram and I'm able to run the below in quite a usable manner: Keep in mind the context of the original post was a 100 MHz laptop with 40 MB of RAM. Your video subsystem prolly h

Re: Speed of Java (was: Linux on old laptop in two stages)

2006-06-05 Thread Richard Soule
hey all want their tools to run fast. They wouldn't be happy with the kind of performance that you describe below. Not only that, but the developers who write the other tools at Oracle (Portal, XML Publisher, BPEL Designer, etc.) all use JDeveloper, many on Linux. My own personal experienc

Re: Speed of Java (was: Linux on old laptop in two stages)

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/5/06, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is also very possible that JVM's that run on Windows are more efficient than those that you typically see under Linux ... My personal experience is that the Sun Java VM is just as slow under Windows as it is under Linux, so I don't think

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Kevin D. Clark
A lot of the claims to the effect of "Java is much faster nowadays" are based on the fact that typical Java implementations nowadays include much better JIT (Just In Time) compilers. Translating an application's interpreted Java bytecode into native machine code can yield some very large performa

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Context is unnecessary if, for example, Java is unbearably slow compared to nearly everything. The only things I've seen that are slower than (aggregate of all Java apps I've seen and used) are e.g. field simulators or modal analysis simulation tools... and since they're doing a lot of hardcore m

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Dan Jenkins
pointer to the distributions that work well on old machines... I think I may try DSL once I figure out the best way to get this system loaded. Another option, which I've used in a past similar circumstance, was to remove the hard drive from the laptop, connect it to a standard desktop

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/4/06, Tech Writer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got an old Gateway Solo 2100 laptop with 150 MHz Pentium processor, 40MB RAM and 1.34 GB hard vdrive.  It's been sitting in the corner collecting dust, and still contains Windows-98.  Some of my son's friends h

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Neil Schelly
On Monday 05 June 2006 08:35 am, Paul Lussier wrote: > By what measurement do you determine that Java is slow, and compared > to what? Is it slower for developement, or just running it? Is it > slow compared to C, or Lisp, or Visual Basic? Are you doing systems > programming with it or distribut

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Peggy Harris
up" Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages Ubuntu is a great desktop Linux distro, but I'd suspect it's not going to perform nicely on an older laptop like that. There's a new "Xubuntu" derivative that is using Xfce windo

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Peggy Harris
Oh... and as a side note... I'm encouraged that there are four or five 14-year olds who want to learn more about Linux and Java, so I'd like to try to support them as much as possible... I've actually got a second old laptop (Toshiba Satellite Pro, Pentium MMX processor, 80 M

Speed of Java (was: Linux on old laptop in two stages)

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/5/06, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Be warned that Java may be unbearably slow on that system. (Given that it's irritatingly slow on much newer systems.) By what measurement do you determine that Java is slow ... My measurement is qualitative, not quantitative. Everything

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-05 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/4/06, Tech Writer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... 150 MHz Pentium ... 40MB RAM ... Some of my son's friends >> have decided to learn Java this summer ... > > Be warned that Java may be unbearably slow on that system. (Given > that it's irritating

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-04 Thread Bill Ricker
Ubuntu is a great desktop Linux distro, but I'd suspect it's not going to perform nicely on an older laptop like that. There's a new "Xubuntu" derivative that is using Xfce windowing for older hardware, will supposedly give you the best of both worlds -- light weight di

Re: Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-04 Thread Ben Scott
he FD and CD modules"? If so, that might be a workable solution. Most of the Linux install systems I've encountered load from floppy to memory and then don't touch the FD again. Another possibility is a network install. If the laptop has either onboard Ethernet, or you have a PCMCIA E

Linux on old laptop in two stages

2006-06-04 Thread Tech Writer
I've got an old Gateway Solo 2100 laptop with 150 MHz Pentium processor, 40MB RAM and 1.34 GB hard vdrive.  It's been sitting in the corner collecting dust, and still contains Windows-98.  Some of my son's friends have decided to learn Java this summer, so I was hoping I

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-06-03 Thread Jon maddog Hall
>> Today's laptops have become obese. Two-thirds of their software is >> used to manage the other third, which mostly does the same >> functions nine different ways. >I'm not sure it's less true of the typical Linux system than a Windows >system. I was in Boston yesterday for USENIX and I r

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-06-02 Thread James R. Van Zandt
> Nicholas Negroponte, chairman of One Laptop per Child, answers questions > on the initiative. ... I liked this part: > Today's laptops have become obese. Two-thirds of their software is > used to manage the other third, which mostly does the same > functions

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-02 Thread Paul Lussier
"Tom Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/1/06, Richard A Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I must say I agree with Ben, I did the same search through text books, >> manuals when I was bored, just to see what was there, I think that is >> missing in computer searches. >> >> > You've ne

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Puissante
Jeff Kinz wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:01:52PM -0400, Fred wrote: ... The original design called for a hand crank but it was determined that it would stress the frame too much. Current plans call for a foot pedal to produce power. None of the power plans require more than periodic "pow

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Puissante
Jon maddog Hall wrote: ... I am currently reading a book called "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared Diamond which shows how even some "isolated" societies collapsed when they did not take into account the "global" picture. The way of stopping illegal immigrants and to i

RE: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Richard A Sharpe
e you are." From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Buskey Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:00 PM To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge     On 6/1/06, Richard A Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I must say

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/1/06, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/1/06, Richard A Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I must say I agree with Ben, I did the same search through text books, manuals when I was bored, just to see what was there, I think that is missing in computer searches. You've never wander

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/1/06, Richard A Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I must say I agree with Ben, I did the same search through text books,manuals when I was bored, just to see what was there, I think that ismissing in computer searches.You've never wandered on Google?  Read a post & followed some random links t

RE: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Richard A Sharpe
o you, not because they are kind, but because you are." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Scott Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:33 PM To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge On 6/1/06, Jonath

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/1/06, Jonathan Linowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a key skill pretty unique to "computers" is learning through searching and discovery vs memorizing I disagree. Before computerized dictionaries came along, whenever I went to search through a dictionary to look up a word, I almost always

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Jonathan Linowes
a key skill pretty unique to "computers" is learning through searching and discovery vs memorizing Jonathan ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Jerry Feldman
A number of years ago, the issue of requiring each student have a laptop at a private school came up. While this is quite different from public schools in the US and in third world countries, some of the arguments are still very valid. Back at that time, some of the teachers objected because

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Michael Costolo
ometimes he wants to do it himself. I appreciate your thoughts. My response, though, is to the attitude that we *have* to get computers into the hands/laps of kids. Especially those who are "behind" (like Benson's laptop for kids program, for example). I have no problems with kid

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-06-01 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/31/06, Michael Costolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess my point is that computers aren't a magic pill.  Kids willlearn if their parents spend the time with them to teach them.  Itseems increasingly more common that parents (in this country at least)take to some sort of electronic substitute

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-31 Thread Michael Costolo
edit Reader Rabbit and Harry Potter between them for my daughter being literate. Of course, this is the daughter that likes Windows XP Home and fills the harddrive with WMA soundfiles to my shame, so there is a downside to Reader Rabbit. Which would be solved by the $100 laptop, no MS Windows ...

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-31 Thread Jeff Kinz
shame, so there is a downside > to Reader Rabbit. Which would be solved by the $100 laptop, no MS > Windows ... You could run reader rabbit under wine, but then the wma files might work too. :) -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Bill Ricker
literate. Of course, this is the daughter that likes Windows XP Home and fills the harddrive with WMA soundfiles to my shame, so there is a downside to Reader Rabbit. Which would be solved by the $100 laptop, no MS Windows ... -- Bill [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/30/06, Jeff Kinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And here in the US, the OLPC might -- hey, I said "might"! -- work to establish an affordable, de facto EdTech standard and break schools out of the marketing-driven/gee-whiz/gadget-minded mode that they've been in forever. No chance of that I

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
real potential is in "first" > and "second" world countries. > >Frankly, as Ben stated, I think it's pretty naive to think that laptop > wouldn't be used primarily as a source of light in that Cambodian > household They are hoping it will be. T

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Randy Edwards
Frankly, as Ben stated, I think it's pretty naive to think that laptop wouldn't be used primarily as a source of light in that Cambodian household -- or more likely just sold for cash. But somewhere like Mexico or some "second world" country that laptop could achiev

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:35:20PM -0400, Randy Edwards wrote: >This fundamentally is an area of economics. We've seen that all vibrant > economies since WWII have used exports to generate wealth. Japan, Germany, > the Asian tigers, Chile, China, etc. have all used exports to grow while >

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Randy Edwards
> >Or would the country's money be better spent buying the cheapest > > books possible (which could be produced in-country) and the difference > > invested in an electrical infrastructure? > Since the difference would be zero dollars (it would actually cost MORE > to provide the same texts

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Ben Scott
idered insignificant, though. More significant is the cost of the equipment (the "laptop"). If you only have one book, that means your book cost whatever the laptop cost -- which is about $130, I guess. That's an expensive textbook, even by US college standards. It isn't until yo

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:41:34PM -0400, Randy Edwards wrote: >In reading the posted FAQ I was amazed at this line: > > > In one Cambodian village where we have been working, there is no > > electricity, thus the laptop is, among other things, the brightest light >

Re: OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Randy Edwards
mazed at this line: > In one Cambodian village where we have been working, there is no > electricity, thus the laptop is, among other things, the brightest light > source in the home. Question: Does Cambodia really need to be spending its money on cheap but durable laptops import

$100 Laptop MYTHS De-Mythtefied

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
Great reading for people who think laptops are too expensive or will break or will need electricity http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/OLPC_myths -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. Speech Recognition Technology was used to create this e-mail

OLPC ($100 "laptop") FAQ

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS Nicholas Negroponte, chairman of One Laptop per Child, answers questions on the initiative. What is the $100 Laptop, really? The proposed $100 machine will be a Linux-based, with a dual-mode display- both a full-color, transmissive DVD mode, and a second display option

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:10:53AM -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > On 5/30/06, Jeff Kinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:26:22PM -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > > > I've never understood why giving laptops to kids who can't read or add > > > would make them better at readi

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Heather Brodeur
I've heard they bear very little resemblance to what most of us think of when we hear "laptop." - Heather ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Tom Buskey
Before anyone submits another message, please read about the OLPC.  Most of the thread comments against it don't seem to have read about it.http://laptop.media.mit.edu/ http://www.laptop.org/Or JFGI using the term OLPC.On a similar note on the usefulness of PCs in the classroom, some interesting th

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
air, the mouse > and keyboard are compromises. The cases are fragile and often have > proprietary form factors and parts, inhibiting inexpensive repairs. The > sole asset of a laptop is portability, which many college students have > found turns into a liability: they are one of the mos

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:32:04PM -0400, Richard A Sharpe wrote: > > I'd support this project if it were to get a laptop in every household in > the USA but third world I don't think so, let's start thinking about taking > care of our own first the rest of the worl

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
s, still > pretty useless in many parts of the world. And with the typical power > consumption of laptop CPUs, that's a lot of hand cranking. And I don't see > how you can keep the costs down to $100 if you have to include solar cells. The original design called for a hand

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Michael Costolo
On 5/30/06, Jeff Kinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:26:22PM -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > I've never understood why giving laptops to kids who can't read or add > would make them better at reading or math. Please go see "reader Rabbit" or "Math Blaster" in action with k

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
ree. Should the rest of the governors in the US do the same thing? Sure. http://www.fcw.com/article90958-09-29-05-Web " A laptop for every student BY Dibya Sarkar Published on Sept. 29, 2005 Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney wants every middle and high school stu

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-30 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:26:22PM -0400, Michael Costolo wrote: > I've never understood why giving laptops to kids who can't read or add > would make them better at reading or math. Please go see "reader Rabbit" or "Math Blaster" in action with kids who are in Kindergarten through fourth grade.

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-28 Thread Bill Ricker
The laptops of the MIT project don't have a lot of resemblance to the disposable, fragile, overpowered 1st-world toys you find for sale at the big box stores. Their design criteria lead them to choose the laptop form factor. I haven't followed the project in detail, but I'd sus

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-28 Thread Jon maddog Hall
> I'd support this project if it were to get a laptop in every household in the > USA but third world I don't think so, let's start thinking about taking care > of our own first the rest of the world. I have heard nothing about the OLPC project that targets the "

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-28 Thread David Ecklein
have seen very good solar-powered calculators sold at dollar stores. These might deliver much more educational bang for the buck than a crippled laptop costing between $100 and $300 as projected. As for other functions covered by laptops, cheap cell-phone service is spreading rapidly in develop

RE: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-28 Thread Richard A Sharpe
I agree about the laptops, they are not very upgradeable. I have for years been recycling used desktop PC's to places like Child and Family services, church groups and anyone who could not afford a pc. My objection to the laptop program was that they were going out of the country; take ca

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-28 Thread Ted Roche
board are compromises. The cases are fragile and often have proprietary form factors and parts, inhibiting inexpensive repairs. The sole asset of a laptop is portability, which many college students have found turns into a liability: they are one of the most stolen items on campus. The lapto

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-27 Thread David Ecklein
have proprietary form factors and parts, inhibiting inexpensive repairs. The sole asset of a laptop is portability, which many college students have found turns into a liability: they are one of the most stolen items on campus. IMHO, this laptop promotion is being done for reasons other than the benef

RE: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-27 Thread Richard A Sharpe
I'd support this project if it were to get a laptop in every household in the USA but third world I don't think so, let's start thinking about taking care of our own first the rest of the world. Rich Richard A Sharpe 8 Meadowview Lane Merrimack, NH 03054 "Treat everyone w

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-26 Thread Christopher Schmidt
; pretty useless in many parts of the world. And with the typical power > consumption of laptop CPUs, that's a lot of hand cranking. And I don't see > how you can keep the costs down to $100 if you have to include solar cells. Hand cranks or other similar alternative power op

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-26 Thread Bill Ricker
difference -- unless it can connect to the Internet. The MIT folks realize that. They designed them with the 3rd world environment in mind. Each laptop shares it's wireless connection with other laptops in range, so the laptops nearest the one network link at the school repeat it down the s

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-26 Thread Fred
connect to the Internet. Otherwise the "third world" will be limited to whatever content and software their respective governments will allow to be installed on those PCs. Oh, and unless these PCs can be run with a hand crank or solar cells, still pretty useless in many parts of the world

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-26 Thread Heather Brodeur
Bill McGonigle wrote: > There's a pledge going on here for folks who want to pledge $300 to > buy a "$100" OLPC laptop: > > http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop > I've been told that this pledge project is not directly affiliated with the OLPC project, and that

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-26 Thread kevin_d_clark
Paul Lussier writes: > Right. Benson, crazy though he is, was foolish enough to think we > should take care of people in our country before helping other > countries people who can't read and write. That whole "Charity begins > at home" thing is just so, well, un-PC :) Gosh, when you put it tha

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-25 Thread Paul Lussier
"Tom Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 8) He can entertain himself w/o needing mommy or daddy. I've got an almost 4 year old who's been doing that since pretty much day one, and has never really played with the computers in the house or watch TV. > Is a computer needed? Maybe not. But he m

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-25 Thread Thomas Charron
  I pledge at least 100$ to the laptop..  But the kid will probrably be me.  Heck!  Playing with a 100$ laptop in my livingroom helps a a child read AND write..  ME!  :-)  Thomas On 5/25/06, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's a pledge going on here for folks who want to

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-25 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/25/06, Michael Costolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never understood why giving laptops to kids who can't read or addwould make them better at reading or math.Hmm.. I have a 2.5 year old at home.  He's been playing with mommy's laptop since 18 months or so. 

Re: One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-25 Thread Michael Costolo
On 5/25/06, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's a pledge going on here for folks who want to pledge $300 to buy a "$100" OLPC laptop: http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop The idea is that your $300 purchase funds two additional laptops in the field. E

One Laptop Per Child pledge

2006-05-25 Thread Bill McGonigle
There's a pledge going on here for folks who want to pledge $300 to buy a "$100" OLPC laptop: http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop The idea is that your $300 purchase funds two additional laptops in the field. Even $300 seems like a pretty good deal on the hardware, thou

Re: coLinux Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-16 Thread Bill Ricker
Alternatively, you can run Knoppix from the Windows commandline if the ISO is saved on the NTFS. http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/13/1515258&from=rss -- Bill[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

coLinux Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-16 Thread Bill Ricker
> and I'd like to be > able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Assuming you mean real GNU/Linux and not Cygwin (GNU without Linux kernel), need real Windows not WINE, and want to avoid XEN/VMware/QEMU for whatever reasons ... The Ubuntu Hacks "Rough Cuts" that OReilly was handin

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-11 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/11/06, Darrell Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both products have betas that can be downloaded and used for no cost > (although the no-cost license may expire in the future) Given that Virtual PC is a Microsoft product now, you can replace "may" with "will" for that product. -- Ben _

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-11 Thread Darrell Michaud
ugh the no-cost license may expire in the future) For both, the VMs consume a lot of memory. Both my laptops are maxxed out at 2GB. Disk Space is also important for VMs, if you want to keep historical copies, multiple versions, etc. I picked up a 160GB high performance and silent seagate laptop dr

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Monday 10 April 2006 4:29 pm, Richard Soule wrote: > Add me to the VMWare crowd. I use it every time I do a demo. My laptop > came from Oracle with WinXP on it, I run Linux, WinXP and Win2K Server > VMs depending on which demo I want to run. I am planning on running Xen (SuSE 10.0 or

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Richard Soule
Add me to the VMWare crowd. I use it every time I do a demo. My laptop came from Oracle with WinXP on it, I run Linux, WinXP and Win2K Server VMs depending on which demo I want to run. Sometimes running the WinXP VM with Oracle EE database, Oracle EE Application Server, Oracle BPEL Server

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Mark Polhamus
SB devices to the guest and they seem to mostly work. -- Mark Polhamus Ted Roche wrote: > Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal > machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) > and Linux (more client work, home & hobby),

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Kjel Anderson
#x27;t have to connect to the internet with windows at all this way. Helps with security. Kjel On Monday 10 April 2006 12:39 pm, Ted Roche wrote: > Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal > machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Greg Rundlett
On 4/10/06, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal > machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client > work) and Linux (more client work, home & hobby), and I'd like to be > able

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread hewitt_tech
I'm running VmWare and have always been happy with it. Over time the workstation version has gotten progressively more powerful. For example I'm currently running VmWare on a Windows X64 (64bit) host laptop. The guest OS is a 64 bit Ubuntu system. With VmWare I can forget about the

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Kjel Anderson
#x27;t have to connect to the internet with windows at all this way. Helps with security. Kjel On Monday 10 April 2006 12:39 pm, Ted Roche wrote: > Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal > machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client

Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Charles Farinella
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 12:39, Ted Roche wrote: > Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal > machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client > work) and Linux (more client work, home & hobby), and I'd like to be > able

Laptop OS Virtualization?

2006-04-10 Thread Ted Roche
Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home & hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-29 Thread Paul Lussier
"Kenneth E. Lussier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Howdy all, > > I'm looking for an extremely Linux-friendly laptop to set up as a > traveling demo system. The laptop has to have a wireless card, as I will > need it to run in ad-hoc mode so that it can act

Re: Broadcom (was: Laptop Suggestions)

2005-08-25 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Benjamin Scott writes: > And they still haven't figured out how to release a proper Windoze > drivers (one that doesn't have syntax violations for the RIS INF > parser). What's that? (RIS INF parser) Goggling this tells me that it is some sort of Remote Installation Service, but more than that

Broadcom (was: Laptop Suggestions)

2005-08-24 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Aug 24 at 5:20pm, Dan Jenkins wrote: ... Apple "Airport Extreme" is a Broadcom chipset, and Broadcom doesn't play well with Open Source. The butthead mentality appears to be dominant at Broadcom, doesn't it? ... companies where that butthead mentality reigns (Broadcom being just one example

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Roger H. Goun
On 8/24/05, Kenneth E. Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for an extremely Linux-friendly laptop to set up as a > traveling demo system. The laptop has to have a wireless card, as I will > need it to run in ad-hoc mode so that it can act as a wireless AP for >

RE: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Brian Karas
I've had excellent results with FC on Thinkpads lately. Both on my older X20 (which recently died) and on my current T42. The t42 has built-in blootooth, wifi, NIC, 1400x1050 screen (yeah, odd resolution), etc. All supported very nicely under FC3. As well as dual-head support (laptop L

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Ted Roche
On Aug 24, 2005, at 3:25 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote: Yellow Dog Linux or Fedora Core 4 PPC or SuSE PPC might also be a candidate. Ubuntu, also. I've downloaded and played with their LiveCD on an iMac and it was pretty slick. ___ gnhlug-discuss mail

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Dan Jenkins
Michael ODonnell wrote: You'd have to get a PCMCIA wireless card if you go that route because the Apple "Airport Extreme" is a Broadcom chipset, and Broadcom doesn't play well with Open Source. The butthead mentality appears to be dominant at Broadcom, doesn't it? I've got an HP zd7000 s

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Michael ODonnell
> You'd have to get a PCMCIA wireless card if you go that route > because the Apple "Airport Extreme" is a Broadcom chipset, and > Broadcom doesn't play well with Open Source. The butthead mentality appears to be dominant at Broadcom, doesn't it? I've got an HP zd7000 series machine that's pret

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
e the iBook is about the best value in a rugged laptop to be had, but there's no PCMCIA slot (note: the 12" 'Powerbook' is really a full-metal-jacketed iBook, so don't look there either). -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread David Ecklein
--- From: "Greg Rundlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kenneth E. Lussier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Laptop Suggestions > On 8/24/05, Kenneth E. Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Howdy all, &

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Costolo
On 8/24/05, Kenneth E. Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howdy all,I'm looking for an extremely Linux-friendly laptop to set up as atraveling demo system. The laptop has to have a wireless card, as I willneed it to run in ad-hoc mode so that it can act as a wireless AP for other

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 12:39 -0400, David Ecklein wrote: > FWIW - A client brought in a Dell Inspiron 5160 that was hammered by a > virus - I cleared the HD, loaded only her WinXP and Norton Internet > Security - nothing else. This 2.8Gb-P4-256MB doorstop ran like a snail! I > was embarrassed to c

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:32:52 -0400 Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ThinkPads caught my eye, > as we're been very happy with them in the office for the past couple > of years. They seem to be pretty rugged. Same here. Almost daily trips to client sites, three (four??) years now.

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Ted Roche
On Aug 24, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: All suggestions are welcome. I'm currently looking at http://www.emperorlinux.com for pre-installed linux laptops, but if a thinkpad/dell/gateway/whatever is best, then that's what I'll go with There's a tradeoff between what you're willi

Re: Laptop Suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Greg Rundlett
On 8/24/05, Kenneth E. Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy all, > > I'm looking for an extremely Linux-friendly laptop to set up as a > traveling demo system. The laptop has to have a wireless card, as I will > need it to run in ad-hoc mode so that it can act as

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