Re: Best method

2008-07-06 Thread Thomas Kern
And if you want to use PIPELINE, look at the PIPESERV package from the IBM Downloads website. I have created Service Virtual Machines from both of these packages. They both work very well, you just have to pick your style of doing things. /Tom Kern /U.S. Dept of Energy /301-903-2211 Kris

Re: Best method

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Jones
Sure, Fran, not a problem. Here ya go Happy 4th, too. Fran Hensler wrote: Dave - I would like to snag a copy. Thanks, /Fran Francis J. Hensler, CCP Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock Software Support Specialist mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Info Systems

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Dodds, Jim
Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Jim, the documentation on how to use the vmserve package is included in the vmarc file. Look for the VMSERVE SCRIPT file. Dodds, Jim wrote: Is there any documentation on how to use

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Kris Buelens
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Jim, the documentation on how to use the vmserve package is included in the vmarc file. Look

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Dave Jones
] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Jim, the documentation on how to use the vmserve package is included in the vmarc file. Look for the VMSERVE SCRIPT file. Dodds, Jim wrote: Is there any documentation on how

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Dodds, Jim
, 2008 10:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Hi, Jim. Yes, it doesbut you're in luck.I have DCF here, and I will format the SCRIPT file and send you a copy. What output format do you prefer: LISTING or LIST3820? Hm..I might be able to convert it to PDF as well

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Dave Jones
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Hi, Jim. Yes, it doesbut you're in luck.I have DCF here, and I will format the SCRIPT

Re: Best method

2008-07-03 Thread Fran Hensler
Dave - I would like to snag a copy. Thanks, /Fran Francis J. Hensler, CCP Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock Software Support Specialist mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Info Systems Tech http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh Slippery Rock University of PA

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread Wakser, David
Subject: Re: Best method What if someone sends a vicious PROFILE EXEC to your server? you should check who sent something before blindly receiving it. Or check what was sent and only receive The do-loop checking rdr files can be made much simpler too: Check_Receive: 'EXECIO * CP (STEM AA. Q RDR

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:03:45AM -0700,Wakser, David Wrote: } Is there a method of also trapping the message that shows when } a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE } properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message } types to IUCV should

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 03:37:19PM -0500,Huegel, Thomas Wrote: } It all depends on what you want to do. } In some cases you may not want to wait forever for a file that may never arrive. } So you put the timer in. } If on the other hand the vm is totally driven by the arrival of a RDR file,

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread Kris Buelens
This is only required/useful when using WAKEUP in combination with a WAKEUP file. And, the exec using WAKEUP must be celver enough to use CP SLEEP or alike to effectively pass midnight. Here's what I wrote about the problem in our RxServer HTML documentation. *Midnight

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
has never written a program On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 07:10:26 -0700, Wakser, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old

Re: Best method

2008-07-02 Thread Wakser, David
Thanks, Dale. This was helpful. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method David, FWIW, here is a skeleton Exec

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2008-07-02 Thread Dodds, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Fisher Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Hi David Go to the VM download site http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ and get the vmserve package. It uses wakeup and will do just about anything you will ever

Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a do forever loop with a EXECIO * CP (STEM aa. STRING CP Q RDR * ALL command followed by a SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Hughes, Jim
10:10 AM =To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =Subject: Best method = =All: = = What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to =arrive in its reader? = = I have a (very old) EXEC that has a do forever loop with a =EXECIO * CP (STEM aa. STRING CP Q RDR * ALL command followed

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Bob Bates
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a do forever loop with a EXECIO

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
Thanks, Bob. I haven't used WAKEUP for many years, so I'll try it. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Thanks, Bob. I haven't used WAKEUP for many years, so I'll try it. David Wakser -Original

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
You would probably need to SET CPCONIO IUCV. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Bob

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
, 2008 12:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method If you have CA products available, check out KWAKEUP. It handles everything that WAKEUP does and does it better. For example, it gives you an option to put the information about the event causing the interrupt into REXX variables

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
Did that - it didn't help. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method You would probably need to SET CPCONIO IUCV. Regards

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Bob Bates
, 2008 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Bob: Is there a method of also trapping the message that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message types to IUCV should

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Huegel, Thomas
ON EXIT -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All: What

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method I believe you could do a 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' and trap that message as well off the WAKEUP. Could Piping a CP Q R or CP Q RDR ALL into a variable get you the information you need so you don't have to handle both interupts? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Did that - it didn't help. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method You

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Richard Troth
Is there a method of also trapping the message that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Well ... everyone was

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Hughes, Jim
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =Behalf Of Wakser, David =Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:19 PM =To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =Subject: Re: Best method = =Yes, I can try that - it just seemed that WAKEUP would handle the =message also. The SET IMSG didn't help. = =David Wakser = =-Original

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Querying the rdr and processing the responses is a better approach than asking WAKEUP to stack the reader arrived messages. As long as reader files exist in your reader, WAKEUP gets a single interrupt

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Hughes, Jim
. ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 Its kind of fun to do the impossible. (Walt Disney) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Richard Troth
Jim Hughes asked: How would the STARMSG pipeline detect someone typing a message at the console and hitting the ENTER key? Would it require another concurrent pipe running? Concurrent, yes. For console input, I would simply fan-in a CONSOLE stage. You can even fan-in TCP connections, if you

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Kris Buelens
' PURGE RDR SPNO EXIT: WAKEUP RESET SET MSG ON SET IMSG ON EXIT -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method To all readers thinking they'd nee to intercept the message of an arriving spool file: it leaves a hole: reader files sitting there before WAKEUP/PIPE/xxx were active remain in the reader until another RDR file arrives. WAKEUP hasn't that problem. And, you can save

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Huegel, Thomas
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Ugh, such ugly code. Have a look at the TCVM1 package to learn some REXX coding techniques. It is an HTML selfstudy. 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not many comments to explain the code but here is an example. WAKEUP RESET

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Mark Pace
. -Original Message- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Kris Buelens *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:59 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Best method Ugh, such ugly code. Have a look at the TCVM1 package to learn some REXX

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not pretty, but it has worked for a very long time. Sort of like an old horse she may not look like much, but she still plows the field. My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) I would

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
And definitely not at SHARE! :) Rob van der Heij wrote: My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Dave Jones
And to further muddy the waters here a bit, there is the RXWAIT package, available here: http://uvvm.uvic.ca/~freeware/ can do what WAKEUP does and much more as well. Both excellent documentation and the source code is provided. I can, however, understand David's desire to use only plain

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
Dave, Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do. You probably still do not go around showing it off, do you? Regards, Richard Schuh Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does your's do for you? :-) Happy Forth of July, too, and Canada Day as well.

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Kris Buelens
2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go recheck the RDR every so often. With WAKEUP (RDR, there is no need to add a timer interrupt too. WAKEUP will present RC=4 when a RDR file is available. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM

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2008-07-01 Thread Dave Jones
Absolutely not! My wife simply forbids it, even at the beach:-) Schuh, Richard wrote: Dave, Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do. You probably still do not go around showing it off, do you? Regards, Richard Schuh Rob, all my belly button does is collect

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I know a girl that has a diamond in hers she always shows it at the beach. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely not! My

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go recheck the RDR every so often. With WAKEUP (RDR, there is no need to add a timer interrupt too. WAKEUP will present RC=4 when

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel P. Martin
See, folks, this is the part where I come across like I'm all humor-deficient... I'm pretty sure that piercings and belly-button lint aren't terribly relevant to the stated topic of the list. It's all about the signal-to-noise ratio, kids. Please resist the urge to push this one back up the

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Huegel, Thomas
- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method And if you leave that RDR file in the queue without holding it, it will give you another interrupt immediately

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread David Boyes
Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does your's do for you? :-) That is way, *way* too much information.

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel P. Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method See, folks, this is the part where I come across like I'm all humor-deficient... I'm pretty sure that piercings and belly-button lint

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McBride, Catherine Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Lambasting another person's code when they were simply trying to help by sharing it didn't seem too relevant to the stated topic either, yet no one intervened

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2008-07-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
: Best method Cathy: I absolutely did say something at the time!

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Wakser, David
: Re: Best method Hi David Go to the VM download site http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ and get the vmserve package. It uses wakeup and will do just about anything you will ever want your service machine to do. I have used this for years and I am very happy with it. Cal Fisher My tour in the Navy

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Wakser, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WAKEUP +2 (RDR IUCVMSG QUIET /* Check for files every 2 minutes */ For what I understand of WAKEUP, this is still overkill. If you just want to wait for RDR files, you don't need to wakeup each time to check. When a RDR

Re: Best method

2008-07-01 Thread Kris Buelens
of DO when flag = X */ return -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Fisher Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Hi David Go to the VM download site http