This is the same machine that the guy was asking $1700 for. I don't
think he has come to his senses yet.
-Tim
On 6/29/2013 4:14 AM, curt george wrote:
Even though the 500 is very limited in its abilities, it dose have a
lead screw/rails and ... most of the parts that everyone wants.
Have
Probably a virus, Do not click on the link. The message has been deleted
from the google group site.
-Tim
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: How are you? Tim Sweely
>
> link: X
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It's a bout time Gary marked his spot on the map :-)!
Gary Moshofsky has added a marker to our guestmap.
Marker message: 1000EX
I know there are two other Oregonians and three Washingtonians that own
Legacy's equipment. What I don't know is how active any of them are. It's
been a while since I h
7297K18 is what Legacy used.
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From: robertobecerralo...@hotmail.com
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: HELP WITH THIS GEAR.
As gear that I recommended for rotary table, I could say please Tim?
McMaster-Carr, they are called bevel gears.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#bevel-gears/=n1ey50
-Tim
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From: robertobecerralo...@hotmail.com
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: HELP WITH THIS GEAR.
Hello f
the advice. I was wondering if it could handle a full size
router. I still may contact the person to see what he used it for and maybe
take my router to see if the unit can lift it up
Harvey
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Tim Krause wrote:
Well, the answer is maybe in my humble
Well, the answer is maybe in my humble opinion. I think 1/2" un-supported
rails is on the light side and the rails might deflect under a heavy cut and a
full sized router. Laminate trimmer or smaller 2 HP router might be ok. The
acme thread is probably 10-tpi so to go an inch you are cranking
There is a brass 1/2" diameter by 3/4" long piece that bolts to the acrylic in
the slot. There are two brackets that mount off the back side of the machine
that holds your template. This operation is covered in the training video.
Curt, can you make copies at this time of the training video
It's a model 1000 EXL.
-Tim
On 5/8/2013 1:05 AM, curt george wrote:
Hello Gary
I cant tell from the picture which model of Legacy this person is
selling, but from what I can see is,for a 72" Legacy, with floor
stand, table raiser and router. $1100 is a good price for what you get..
It would
That mandrel is not a legacy component. They offered a mandrel for the
models with mt2 mounts and one that worked on the model 200 and revo's.
They screwed into the spindles or mounted with a drill chuck if I
recall. What you pointed out is designed to work with normal stye lathes.
mt2 m
Out of this world! What's the diameter of the piece?
-Tim
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To: Legacy Google group
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:14 PM
Subject: Chatter wave
Hello everyone. This is todays play time expermant. Just wanted to know what
you all thoug
The last I heard from Andy, the machine was at the painters. That's all I know
at the moment on the Evo front.
As far as the photos, There's two issues that I'm working through. Terms of
use are for redistribution amongst members only of this group. This means
developing a login procedure ov
isnt seen anywhere out side the OT
world. Thank you for the idea.
C.A.G.
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 12:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Smokem,if youve got em.
First, that is
First, that is a neat wood. I've never heard of or it or seen it before.
Second, I know what you can do as a woodworker, and I think you need to do
something on the end of the gavel head. It looks too much like a mount with
the dimple in the middle. inset something in the end or smooth it of
Hello All,
I missed a few new markers on our map in January. The following members have
been added to our map. This gives us a total of 52 owners now listed.
Norm Baker has added a marker to our guestmap.
Marker message: Forney, TX Legacy 1200
and
Jerry Stone has added a marker to our gues
ID of your machine should be pretty easy. I have a hidden history page
here. http://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html . Also the missing
handle for the y-axis is available at several industrial suppliers but
McMaster-Carr is my preferred source for that part.
-Tim
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Welcome to the group Ron. You will find using your older machine is the
same principle as all the so called newer manual machines. Did you get any
training videos with the machine? If not, www.legacywoodworking.com has two
places that you should have seen already. The first place to get started
If you have a double locking collar, you can make an adapter like the ones I
sell with lovejoy connectors. Here's a hidden page with more information.
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/index.html
Here's a page with a few more ideas.
http://ornamentalmills.com/tu
There is a guy that has a video called spiral into control. It has a
cable driven system that allows a laminate trimmer to follow profiles.
It's something that could be adapted to the legacy I believe. There are
clips on youtube. I'm not in the position to give you any further info
at thi
I don't think it is possible to do this from the side because first wouldn't
you need a rope moulding cutter profile, and second the leading or trailing
edge will be cutting into the piece depending on the contour.
Even the cnc would have to pick the profile out. It would take a while and
nee
On 3/26/2013 8:45 PM, MAX LATHAM wrote:
I have been just using 300 grit Al2O3 paper, all you want to do is
create micro grooves in the last coat into which the next coat will bond.
max
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:59:37 -040
I paid $325 as well. I don't recall it going any higher.
The rotary table can be used for platters, rosettes, box tops, shallow
bowls, table tops, and more.
-Tim
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Rotary table on Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-Ornamental-Mill-Rotary-Indexing-Table-Milling-Router-Crafter-Free-Ship-/181105651112?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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I see leadscrew not rack and pinion. What makes you think it's a performance
machine? For the price I would assume turnkey.
-Tim
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: Legacy Mill
I recognize that machine from one of our group photos. It's an 1200, no metal
sides. I don't recall who the member is. The dust system is unique.
-Tim
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I had the compatibility problem when I bought my Craftsman router. No
one knew, but there where a couple message hidden on the net that hinted
towards it being manufactured by Bosch. I tried to get a hold of the
specification (tpi on the threads and taper angle) but I could not find
anything.
They will be available on the groups Web site (ornamentalmills.com). I'm still
working on putting a gallery together that makes navigational sense. I think
the vast majority of the photos are the same photos as seen in Legacy's online
gallery. There are some unique ones that are not posted th
re 20 mortises
and 20 tenons in the bed
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2fs9s1xtggv5gww/rrh764Ojkb
or
http://tinyurl.com/auvsofh
Regards to all
David - northern tier PA
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Tim Krause wrote:
Is there anyone out there building anything with their equipment?
I love when we learn a new word. So a slightly curving column is the
results? The key is milling from the side. You will only be able to create
coves, not ropes.
That's where Bill's side mounted router solved that problem.
http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html
It does s
Hi Curt, I use the 120v version (kb-120) in a lot of my simple 90v setups.
They are easy to find in the surplus world. KB Electronics has lot's of
suitable controllers. They are easy to find used and new on ebay. They are
simple to setup and documentation is freely available on the web.
You would be getting the updated z-axis with router, a linear drive motor,
stand and turntable?
900 - 1325
stand - 149
Z axis up - 480
PC router - 325
Lin Drive - 925
Turn - 325
These prices would be retail value of the package back in the day. So let's say
a $3500 retail package. Fair is
Hi Bill,
Sorry about the delayed answer, I think the motor is a little low on torque and
speed to drive the gear train through the screw. I see more than 5 motors
available on ebay right now that would work. It is just a matter of getting
all the components together and building a couple brac
Legacy used to sell a set of five indexing plates that gave you more
indexing options. They came in 28, 30, 32, 36, and 40 holes.
-Tim
On 2/16/2013 7:11 PM, mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote:
Any ideas about what they meanwith statement: "5 plate indexing"?
Does that mean that tey have only 5 of
How long is the machine time on those?
On 2/15/2013 11:39 AM, stormin...@snet.net wrote:
Posted same pic twice.
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Pictures
What / who is CCM?
Mac
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>To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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>Subject: Re: Pictures
>
>No rush, no one
No rush, no one else is posting either. I've got a table project from
CCM that I'm looking forward to showing.
-Tim
On 2/14/2013 9:52 AM, Brandon Khoury wrote:
Sorry that I haven't had a chance to post anything yet. Super busy at work,
14-16 hour days this week. But, I just wanted to clarif
Hang in there folks, it's going to take a little while to sort it out.
On 2/13/2013 1:16 AM, curt george wrote:
In Legacy's chat /web conference with us last week, I saw some
pictures of works that I had not seen before. They say a pictures is
worth 1000 words, I cant wait to see this new cha
That's the second part of the gear cover. The first part is barely shown in
the forth picture near the headstock.
-Tim
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From: Harvey Matyas
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: Legacy for sale
Is there anyone out there building anything with their equipment? I'd like to
update the groups home page with a new project. Please forward them to me or
post them in the group.
-Tim
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There will be some more details regarding manuals and videos soon. I've been
working since this summer gathering official Legacy training videos. My
intention was to have a Library where the DVD's could be checked out. Along
with this, I will be making copies of the manuals that I have availa
ng
that's been missing.
On Feb 6, 2013 9:39 AM, "Tim Krause" wrote:
I've encouraged cnc projects to be posted here since the beginning. I've
even allowed shopbot photos :-).
-Tim
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From: Stan
To: legacy-ornam
It's warmer in Australia, I say we meet at Bill's and raise his home and
shop :-)
-Tim
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From: "Cole Andrews"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Re - New toy
> lets all meet at Tim's for class! :)
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM, wrote:
I've encouraged cnc projects to be posted here since the beginning. I've even
allowed shopbot photos :-).
-Tim
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From: Stan
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: Thanks
Thanks for all who att
It's an Evo that they will be sending me. Maybe if it gets here fast enough
I'll be the first one to show a video of the chips flying :-).
I thought the conversation was good. For those have problems buying parts from
Legacy, take the advice given and speak with Andy directly or John. As long
Hello All,
I'm really looking forward to the live chat tommorow. I'm thinking with a
bunch of new guys trying to figure out the chat technology the agenda might
be a little ambitious. I would also hope to see a longer time spent on the
Evo.
Copied from the original message - The agenda for the
x/default.do?siteurl=legacycnc
C.A.G.
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From: Tim Krause
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Question for Legacy Chat 2-5-2013
Ron, would you like to reword this question?
Jo
Ron, would you like to reword this question?
John, I KNOW what you are saying, but I'm not going to censor the questions.
I also know Andy is receiving the messages from this group in his email so it's
really to late.
To All,
It was pointed out on Friday via my private email that all th
How did you find our Group on Google?
A. Google search
B. Ornamentalmills.com website
C. A forum
D. Legacy referral
E. Other
-Tim
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There is only one question at the moment for Legacy. Please add them to this
thread ASAP.
Question 1:
"What parts, component assemblies, and accessories do the Evolution and our
(legacy) manual mills share/have in common." (Even talking nuts, bolts, and
bearings here.)
I want to know what pa
Hello All,
We had a member join this week that owns a MA12, one of the original models. I
hope he is finding the information that he is looking for. We have what I
consider to be a real expert in this group on the Woodchuck models so if you
have any unanswered questions, I would highly encou
I still want to see the chips fly. Where's that video? A walk around is not
enough to satisfy my curiosity.
-Tim
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Hi Mac and Brandon,
This is one of those topics that can lead to armchair quarterback moments of us
telling them how to run their business. It's a topic I like to avoid. As far
as the cart being broken, it's been "Temporary Unavailable" for longer than I
can remember. To order anything from
Hello All,
I think the best bet on the .5x reduction gear is for me to install the gear on
your standard duplex gear. That way I know the gear works before you ever
install it on your machine. The gear will fit in a well padded medium rate
USPS flat rate box. The cost is not final, but I wo
It's Murphy law, on the slippage. It always works fine until the last cut
:-). The double locking collar is only available from Legacy.
http://legacywoodworking.com/products.cfm?product=82 . Here's the catch 22.
We don't own lathes. If you pound the drive center in the MT at least you
will have
The slipping in the piece is most likely the drive center rotating in the
morse taper. Do you own a double locking collar?
-Tim
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From: "Brandon Khoury"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Cutting Reeds on a Tapered Spindle
Tim- There's some
I would look into why your machine is not moving smoothly. Got DynaGlide? If
the guides are too tight in the first place, no amount of lube or adjusting
will fix them. Constantly check for dust build up in the rails. This will
cause binding.
-Tim
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Another complication in the mix is I need to offer two different reduction sets
since the 1000 and earlier models use a different tooth pattern on the main
gear.
-Tim
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This is a little off topic. Can you MAC guys really run PC programs that are
written for .NET? Here's the root of my question, I have a pet project that is
a program that helps calculate data important to how we use our machines. I've
often thought about making it a web only application so ev
I don't think I'd bother with the rounded end. Just remove some material for
clearance so the male slides into the female. Without making a jig, the
male portion on the legacy is tricky. Legacy has a video using the revo
that will give you an idea of how they did it.
http://legacywoodworking.com
Actually an 1000 with upgraded z-axis and aftermarket motor setup. I'd jump on
this if I was in the market.
-Tim
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From: Begat
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: 1200 for $1500 near St. Petersburg
I was going to pass on the question to you Stan. We have a lot of shy guys
that may not post questions in public and this is a way to encourage those
questions.
-Tim
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From: "Stan Shuford"
To:
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Discussion session
I'll take a list of anonymous questions for Legacy if you feel uncomfortable
asking. Just send them to my i...@ornamentalmills.com email address. Use the
subject "Discussion Questions".
-Tim
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From: mwfos...@earthlink.net
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegr
The y-axis is normally left open and the bearing follows the work. I'm
assuming you understand that you cut your reeds with the same taper angle
set as your piece. Depending on the size of the reeds or flute you use,
sometimes the bearing will fall into the last cut. This is where it's to
your a
I see a hint of the motor on the left side on one of the pictures. I think
you're ok there.
-Tim
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From: Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Steel 1800 in Cali
I
I'd ask to see the gears. I'm only seeing one in the photos. You probably
also know it's a 1500L and not an 1800 since you mentioned it's a steel frame,
but it probably does not matter for your needs. I also don't see any index
plates as the seller is pointing out.
-Tim
- Original Mes
I'm short on time, but this diagram might help. The router bit is turning
clockwise as seen by looking down on the router bit. To make a clean shoulder
on round stock on the left side (L), you would start from the backside of the
piece and move the y axis forward while you are turning the stoc
I'm assuming you counted me in :-)
-Tim
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From: Stan
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: Discussion session with Legacy
Yea!! We are at 24!! I'll get with John so we can get time and date.
Brandon,
You might be able to press the insert back into the plate. Use a vise and
pinch the insert into the plate. Just look at another one of the plates to
see how it goes, it's not exotic. Personally I would buy a new one. Get a
few extras, they come in handy for all sorts of things. Legac
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From: "Brandon Khoury"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Tail stock connection
Hey Curtis, yes the plate was installed incorrectly and the Zirt was between
the plate and the screws instead of on the opposite side of the plate. I
haven't taken
I deleted the Nevada Marker.
He Have Milt in Lebanon Oregon with a Model 1200, Jeff Becker with a 900 and an
Artisan in Kentucky and VA Oak with a Model 1000.
I know 4 other Oregonians that are not on the map, I'm going to start naming
them if they don't show their faces, we got more people o
Hi John,
There are very few people that I've met that own the model 800.
The Link to the Map:
http://ornamentalmills.com/map/usermap.html
Direction for placing your marker:
http://ornamentalmills.com/map/map_directions.html
-Tim
- Original Message -
From: John Becker
To:
I had caught up with him when I noticed him on another forum. He was trying to
make his own Legacy type machine. I'm really glad he's doing much better. How
funny would it be if he ends up near Bill when he gets to OZ.
-Tim
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From: Martinsbootfair
To: lega
I'm well aware John is reading, I half expected a response. :-)
I don't think you won't be disappointed with your purchase except for two
reasons. You won't use it for various reasons or it will not do something you
think is elementary.
Do you like learning new things? Can you learn from
Are the splines really converted to arcs? Most cad programs create lines.
This can create jerky motions if the cam program does not simplify the
geometry.
-Tim
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From: Stan
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:56
Does Aspire handle splines?
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From: Stan
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: The miniArty
You're right George. I use TurboCan to do the drawing and import into Aspire
which generates the gc
You could add a plate and instead of altering both sides and the split nut
just remove the amount of material from the support block that is the same
thickness of the plate. If you are capable of doing that much, you should
be able to make a block from scratch. :-)
I'm also skeptical about the g
You guys are killing me. I'm shaking my head and laughing at the same time. I
will admit I've been told I'm a hell of a salesman for Legacy even though I'm
not associated with them.
-Tim
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Hi Brandon,
Magnate.net carries Dynaglide as well as a few other online vendors. I would
not consider anything else. A can will last a year or more if your just using
it on the legacy. When you find out how great it is around the shop it might
go faster. :-)
The silicon will not hurt eit
There is no glue that will work with Delrin. I would think there is room to
drill and tap a hole sideways that would pinch the part together. Otherwise I
would make another part. Is the part actually loose right now? You might try
using a larger washer to spread the load a little and see i
I did a simple screw type clamp for the rotary table this summer and it worked
really well. I don't see why yours would not work. In fact it's right up my
alley. Nice Job.
-Tim
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue
The entire left coast is ignored this year!
http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/shows.htm
-Tim
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It was pointed out off list I'm rich??? Clearly a typo, I'm sure Roger meant
"HIM" as in Norm not me :-).
I agree with many points of view in this conversation. I've been going to
every other show or less lately. I've either got all the tools I need for what
I do, or don't have the need for
After a closer look, the vice is not only installed wrong, but also assembled
wrong. The two longer pieces go on the inside and the shorter rails are
designed to span the inner rails. Those are designed to be mounted on top or
below the adjustable bed. I don't have access to a copy of the ins
The Revo used a smaller Porter Cable router such as the 893. They recommended
a 2.25 hp router and left drilling the mounting holes up to the owner.
I like the idea of the plunge bar on the revo. The idea would not work so well
on the 900, and there is none available for the 7539's.
I boug
The adjustable vice was a neat idea.
I think it angled up to 45ยบ each way?
-Tim
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From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:17 PM
Subject: RE: A well-equiped 1000 (60 in center to center) in De
That vice is installed upside down.
-Tim
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From: mwfos...@earthlink.net
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: A well-equiped 1000 (60 in center to center) in Denver for $2100
Hello Begat,
Hello All,
I got a reminder to give the group a friendly reminder to trim your posts.
This mostly applies to people that use email to respond to the groups messages.
This simply means to delete some of the quoted text that is no longer needed
below your response. The problem is people who r
Great Price, I hope it went to a good home and that it does not collect dust!
-Tim
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From: Louis Brown
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: A Revo for Sale! In Plattville, WI for $500
Yes,
I wish, but not me.
-Tim
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From: Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: A Revo for Sale! In Plattville, WI for $500
Is the bid from this group? Tim?
On 12/31/2012 7:
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Totals
2004 12
2005 227 174 175 104 85 86 61 88 46 67 91 165 1369
2006 75 50 100 48 106 47 38 57 48 62 115 88 834
2007 75 134 99 122 160 54 60 58 45 84 93 49 1033
2008 86 7
Good question, I just sent an email to see if I can get any information.
-Tim
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From: Begat
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Legacy Ornamental Mill Site is Unavailable Is an Update in Progress?
Why not :-)
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From: Begat
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: A Revo for Sale! In Plattville, WI for $500
Hello You Revo Fans,
We have talked up a Revo. There a fellow in Plattsville, about 7
o Tim,
They really solve a problem.
Begat
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Tim Krause wrote:
The drive center and hubs are Legacy's design and part.
-Tim
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The drive center and hubs are Legacy's design and part.
-Tim
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From: Begat
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 5:21 PM
Subject: Legacy's Index Drive Center and Index Hubs--Are they Unique to
Legacy?
Hello all
It is a model 1800 for sure. It's missing parts judging by the photos. It's
missing the handle for the y-axis, both split nuts, the mounting bracket for
the drive motor, the main index gear, most of the spiral pitch gears, and the
other directional gear. It does come with an index plate that I
Hi Begat,
I've seen some of General's line of cnc's in person. The Igus rails you are
pointing out are used on the lower line. I can't complain about Igus, well
engineered components. General is using one of Igus's newer linear systems
(relatively). The linear rails are made from extruded alu
:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Evolution unveiled
>
>
> > "Well" it May sounds nice, but I don't like what I see. $$$. :-) Perhaps
> > in a few years, the price will drop?But that's way out side my price
limit
> > at this time.
> > Thanks Tim.
> >
I've looked at the spindles on ebay from China. The quiet nature of the
spindles is extremely desirable but it might be a case of buyer beware. If
there is a problem, you might be out of luck. A 2.2kw spindle will get you
into the 3hp range. Did you realize these spindles use 220v and an invert
e:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I miss the ability to do as much flat work.
>
> Begat
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Tim Krause
wrote:
>
> Reserving my comments until the chips are flying.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Okl
Someone needs to run that press release through a grammar and fact check before
it's released to the general public.
-Tim
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