Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-15 Thread M.W. Chang
did you train the filter by flagging all those slipped messages as junk? iF you just delete them, the filter would not be improved! I've been using Moz Firebird as my only email for quite some time now. And have been somewhat disappointed in the filters. It catches alot of the junk right

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Hipp
M.W. Chang wrote: did you train the filter by flagging all those slipped messages as junk? iF you just delete them, the filter would not be improved! Yes. I always hit the 'Junk' button which promptly gets them out of my sight and into the Junk folder. This seemed to work great on Mozilla but I

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-15 Thread M.W. Chang
I had that problem with spam-assassin' Bayesian filter. I actually tried using the Junk folder of mozilla to train SA (sa-learn --mbox --spam Junk). Until now, there are still some Chinese junk messages passing through the sanity check of SA. Michael Hipp wrote: Yes. I always hit the 'Junk'

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread M.W. Chang
It seems that mozilla's built-in bayesian filter works better than SpamAssassin. Until now, SA failed to identify many Chinese spam while mozilla can correctly move them into the Junk folder on reception. It's not *really* Bayesian - I don't think any of them are. They all ignore the

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Hipp
M.W. Chang wrote: It seems that mozilla's built-in bayesian filter works better than SpamAssassin. Until now, SA failed to identify many Chinese spam while mozilla can correctly move them into the Junk folder on reception. I've been using Moz Firebird as my only email for quite some time now. And

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Tim Wunder
On 11/14/2003 8:34 AM, I believe that Michael Hipp wrote: M.W. Chang wrote: It seems that mozilla's built-in bayesian filter works better than SpamAssassin. Until now, SA failed to identify many Chinese spam while mozilla can correctly move them into the Junk folder on reception. I've been

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 14 November 2003 9:09 am, Collins Richey wrote: Agrred. Since Mozilla have indicated that Firebird is the once-and-future-browser, it would seem that improvements are to be expected. I've been using Firebird since it's early days, and it's quite good. Nevertheless, 0.7 has more of a

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:34:36 -0600 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M.W. Chang wrote: It seems that mozilla's built-in bayesian filter works better than SpamAssassin. Until now, SA failed to identify many Chinese spam while mozilla can correctly move them into the Junk folder on

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Hipp
Tim Wunder wrote: I've been using Moz Firebird as my only email for quite some time now. You have? How did you get the stand alone browser product to do e-mail? Perhaps you mean Thunderbird. ;-) Hehe. I still think of them as one. FWIW, Mozilla's intergrated MUA is still better than the

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Hipp
Collins Richey wrote: Agrred. Since Mozilla have indicated that Firebird is the once-and-future-browser, it would seem that improvements are to be expected. I've been using Firebird since it's early days, and it's quite good. Nevertheless, 0.7 has more of a propensity to just go poof (TM)

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:19:45AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 9:09 am, Collins Richey wrote: Agrred. Since Mozilla have indicated that Firebird is the once-and-future-browser, it would seem that improvements are to be expected. I've been using Firebird since

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 14 November 2003 10:13 am, Myles Green wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:19:45AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 9:09 am, Collins Richey wrote: Agrred. Since Mozilla have indicated that Firebird is the once-and-future-browser, it would seem that

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:23:16AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: Hmmm I don't think I've ever seen .7 go poof Perhaps it's your . naw I won't go there... :-) But it's been rock solid here. I've been getting the same problem as Collins myself (on Slackware 9.1).

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Net Llama!
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Myles Green wrote: My hardware: Athlon 1800+ 1.5GB PC2700 DDR RAM (Samsung) nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 (using nvidia drivers) PS/2 keyboard USB wheel mouse (Logitech) using IMPS/2 protocol I've run Memtest86 on the RAM, one stick at a time and all three

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:51:20 -0700 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:23:16AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: Hmmm I don't think I've ever seen .7 go poof Perhaps it's your . naw I won't go there... :-) But it's been rock solid here.

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:20:41PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: In your case, Myles, I would suspect nvidia drivers, USB mouse, combination of all of the above with acpi, or ???, probably nothing to do with Firebird. I thought about the drivers too but this has been happening with the nv driver

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:08:00PM -0500, Net Llama! wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Myles Green wrote: My hardware: Athlon 1800+ 1.5GB PC2700 DDR RAM (Samsung) nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 (using nvidia drivers) PS/2 keyboard USB wheel mouse (Logitech) using IMPS/2 protocol

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-13 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:47:21 -0600 Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:16 +0800 M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you ever toyed with the Bayesian learner? I wonder where SA stores her rules. It's not *really* Bayesian - I don't think any of

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-12 Thread Alan Jackson
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:16 +0800 M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you ever toyed with the Bayesian learner? I wonder where SA stores her rules. It's not *really* Bayesian - I don't think any of them are. They all ignore the cross-correlation. That is, they don't correct for the

spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-11 Thread M.W. Chang
have you ever toyed with the Bayesian learner? I wonder where SA stores her rules. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22-xfs ^ ^6:06pm up 1 day, 6:59, 1 user, load average: 1.10, 1.04, 1.01

Re: spamassassin's sa-learn

2003-11-11 Thread M.W. Chang
sorry, I found it in the doc. it's in users' home directories or be specified by bayes_path in site config file local.cf. M.W. Chang wrote: have you ever toyed with the Bayesian learner? I wonder where SA stores her rules. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \