Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Theres no reason you can't watch 4x3 material on a 16x9 tv Well, sure, if you don't mind it being squished into the middle third or so of the screen. You have to buy a LOT bigger 16:9 flat-panel if you want to get the si

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2008-04-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Cathey
> Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the > founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Oh, and Presidents don't run up debts. Congresses do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: htt

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Cathey
> Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the > founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Have they run up over half the population increase, as well? Statistics can be dam'd interesting, for sure. -- Jim ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread Luther
My thoughts exactly. I'm going to rebuild a OM617, but I'm not ready for a tranny yet. Kaleb's offer on the used transmission is VERY tempting I intend to keep the car for a very long timeso, I'm not sure yet. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F

Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation

2008-04-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
has 67k miles on it, and they want $26k for it. Seems like a smoking deal to me. IT IS! There's one on Portland, OR Craigslist for $31K with 59K miles on it. http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/632192113.htmll A couple days ago, there was one for around $24K that had around 80K miles on i

Re: [MBZ] OT: Top Gear - insulting the USA southerners

2008-04-07 Thread Rolf
Old but a classic. Mitch Haley wrote: > Painting slogans on each others' cars, with points awarded for every > time the other guy gets shot or arrested: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7SVILAcAU > > Favorite quote: > Hammond: "This is for every time Jeremy has called me hamster" > > __

Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation

2008-04-07 Thread John Robbins
Sunil Hari wrote: > if you buy this car, you certainly won't have use for your 92 300D any > longer. I'd like it back. It has already been claimed by my brother... Sorry! His current ride is an '01 Chrysler Sebring... so it will be quite the upgrade. John

Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation

2008-04-07 Thread Sunil Hari
if you buy this car, you certainly won't have use for your 92 300D any longer. I'd like it back. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I get sent up to Huntsville for a week of training which puts me near > an MB dealer... never a good thing. They have a

[MBZ] Must... resist... temptation

2008-04-07 Thread John Robbins
So I get sent up to Huntsville for a week of training which puts me near an MB dealer... never a good thing. They have an '05 CDI on the lot, and I took it for a spin this afternoon... I really really really liked the car... that engine is AMAZING. Most cars have to downshift to do anythin

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread ernest breakfield
if by "plain Cherokee" you mean the classic boxy XJ that they haven't made for about 7 years, they were available for a few years with an awful (Renault?) diesel back in the 80s. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: > A plain cherokee had no diesel option as far as I know. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > Thank goodness they didn't decide to push Ted for president. ;-( He ran against a seated Democrat in 1980. James Earl "In the interest of party unity, I promise not to use the word Chappaquiddick in this campaign" Carter. (gee Jimmy, I think you just said the word you claimed you w

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread OK Don
We have a pro MB tranny rebuilder in town - cost is about the same as one from Rusty. You pay either way. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get the idea that a typical clutch and seal kit won't have whatever > busted in the governor of Luther's tranny. Som

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread OK Don
Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the "fiscally responsible" republican myth come from? Say it often enough and t

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread OK Don
> But the > point was that no Kennedy ever had a real job or > ever had to meet a payroll. Old Joe was a > bootlegger and a criminal. Not a "real" job, but I'm sure old Joe had to meet a payroll - his goons wouldn't work for him if he didn't pay them. > Because ol > Joe was never named pub

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
Loren wrote<> Until someone is on the dark waters offshore it is impossible to understand how truly *Dark* it can be out there. With the PT boat idling while waiting for the next commands, it would have been impossible to hear the destroyer coming. Things happen in the middle of the Pac

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread OK Don
It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last --- On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:54 AM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be a shame if preventive medicine ended up killing you. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Dis

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have never in my life heard that before, only about the 3.5's Peter Frederick wrote: > ALL 603's a subject to bent rods, but the 3.5L is the worst. I've > hear of a couple in the local area --usually #1. > > You need to use a dial indicator to check actual clearance, but wear > limit is 0.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Condi Rice for VP?

2008-04-07 Thread OK Don
Yup - interesting, just like a case of the pox, or leprosy. OK -probably a bit over the top, I don't how much has been her idea, and how much she's just been following orders, but there is still that matter of guilt by association. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm wanting a Samsung 32", a friend has a 48" (52 maybe I forget) which is beautiful. You can get the 32" for maybe $750 now from Amazon. I've got probably $150 in Amazon.com gift cards coming from my credit card. That'll double after this week in Vegas and then another $150 in June when I go t

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Theres no reason you can't watch 4x3 material on a 16x9 tv and in fact an LCD tv is an advantage for that since it won't burn in. Plasma apparently burns in BADLY... 16x9 on a 4x3 is letterboxed, those bars on the top and bottom. 4x3 on a 16x9 is pillar boxed, it gets bars on the right and left.

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Peter Frederick
ALL 603's a subject to bent rods, but the 3.5L is the worst. I've hear of a couple in the local area --usually #1. You need to use a dial indicator to check actual clearance, but wear limit is 0.002". Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see o

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
but met life is a big company with money. i am more comparing them with the real fly by night liability firms than with any of the legit players. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you look at the total number of auto policies written (at least > here

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Thompson
If you look at the total number of auto policies written (at least here in Texas), Met Life is actually one of the little guys. I think this is what makes them more responsinve to claims. Maybe they're not as badly overworked as your average Geico or Progressive adjuster. Gary Thompson 1995 E320

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
that's kind of what i was thinking. i find that the big guys just are willing to pay and move on but that the little ones that write really questionable policies are insolvent and won't/can't pay. one of my cars once got hit by one of these "we insure anyone for $30 a month" outfits and they stil

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Thompson
I've got Met Life on all my cars. Get a very good deal through the company I work for. Unfortunately, my daughter has a penchant for running into things, so I've had several occasions to avail myself of their claims services. These guys are first rate. I've never had a better experience. When my d

[MBZ] OT: Top Gear - insulting the USA southerners

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Painting slogans on each others' cars, with points awarded for every time the other guy gets shot or arrested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7SVILAcAU Favorite quote: Hammond: "This is for every time Jeremy has called me hamster" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Service loaners

2008-04-07 Thread RELNGSON
> < dealer, a few years ago at least, had Neons as service loaners. Not > sure what they're doing now that DaimlerChrysler is no more.>> > Phil Smart MB in Seattle has a fleet of '07 C-Class Sport models as free service loaners. They were all out recently when I needed one so they rented me an

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec

2008-04-07 Thread RELNGSON
> < while > my cars is in the shop. This thing is sweet. 32 mpg mixed freeway/surface > street driving so far. It feels so much more solid/connected than the > gasser. The good solid diesel feeling and I know you all know what I mean. > > I'm going to have to call salesboy and tell him to  find a

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
I get the idea that a typical clutch and seal kit won't have whatever busted in the governor of Luther's tranny. Some professional tranny rebuilders got an education going through a 190dt last year, and the car was sold on eBay last week, only able to move in reverse. Mitch. R A Bennell wrote:

Re: [MBZ] trans mount tab broke off

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thanks Curt Raymond wrote: > I'm sure I'm late to the party (Hello from Las Vegas!) but... > > I've done alot of repairs with JB Weld, remember its NOT adhesive... You have > to treat the repair just like you would a weld, grind a V channel along the > break at least 1/4 way through the metal.

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just bought a 65" toshiba DLP, but thats a little bigger than you are looking for I suppose. LWB250 wrote: > Our aging 25" Magnavox (Philips) CRT TV passed on the > other day (lost it's horizontal hold, I'm sorry to > say.) Just what I need with having to get a house > ready to go on the marke

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a couple of heads that have those small cracks between the valves. These are not the problem when they say a cracked #14 head? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Kaleb, > > MB diesels are designed to run a very tight piston fit, less than 0.002".? > You would be hard pressed to feel, let alone

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a spare 603 so there really is not a problem there. Will probably do a swap then rebuild this block later. LWB250 wrote: > Kaleb, > > There is always going to be some "slop" in the piston > fit in the bore, even in a new engine. There has got > to be room for the piston to expand as it

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh geez, you are full of it. Robert Rentfro wrote: > Those bastages at the dealer. They gave me a new E320 Bluetec to drive while > my cars is in the shop. This thing is sweet. 32 mpg mixed freeway/surface > street driving so far. It feels so much more solid/connected than the > gasser. The good s

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
haha Luther wrote: > I've got $500 here waiting for you to deliver it to my door > > Luther > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:55:40 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> So I have this 300SDL I picked up a while back. The guy who had it >> bought it from a list member from a

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, thats kind of what I thought Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: > > "I have always wanted to know this myself. I just hear he is about > change. Well, ok." > > He represents a change all right. A change in TAX POLICY. He has already > said he will end the Bush Tax cuts and wants to pro

Re: [MBZ] Ebay finds: 2.3-16v euro in MA.

2008-04-07 Thread Curt Raymond
You evil man... Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:28:52 -0400 From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Ebay finds: 2.3-16v euro in MA. To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Euro 16v with leather seats: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/

Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany

2008-04-07 Thread Curt Raymond
All gas in MA (or pretty much all anyway) is E10. We used it in my '96 Dodge Dakota for probably 30,000-50,000 miles, I forget how long we've had it it might be more miles... The pickup has 212,000 now and ran great when we drove down to Providence to catch the flight out here... I see the gas

Re: [MBZ] trans mount tab broke off

2008-04-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm sure I'm late to the party (Hello from Las Vegas!) but... I've done alot of repairs with JB Weld, remember its NOT adhesive... You have to treat the repair just like you would a weld, grind a V channel along the break at least 1/4 way through the metal. Then grind some channels perpendicul

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread R A Bennell
Combination of factors obviously. The cost of the kit is minimal compared to a new tranny. Some of the tools can likely be home made versions. A press is nice to have in any event so buying it is not a bad idea. Worst case scenario is that you end up having to have it fixed or replaced anyway. In

Re: [MBZ] OT Politics: Monica's Boyfriend's Wife

2008-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I think err uh err uh Osama Barakka err uh (in my Teddy K voice), actually ended up ahead on total delegates too, was quietly announced a week or two ago. You know, a lot of Rs you know voted for Hill you know just to keep them you know fighting. I figured that out you know even without Rush

Re: [MBZ] OT the Ks

2008-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The nephews are pretty much all idiots too, both the live ones and the ones that have killed themselves doing stupid stuff. I'll share a Teddy and idiot nephew (Joe, the congresscritter) story or two later, I used to see them both on the Boston/DC flights and what a treat that was. --R Loren

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Samsung, best value for price/performance. LCD, 1080P, contrast ratio 10,000 or better, look for at least 2 HDMI inputs (what all vid stuff is moving to) and a tuner (which I think they all have now).. I got a 32" Vizio a few months back, the software/hardware locked up on some channels, pict

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
and a true hero is always marked by modesty i think more than anything young teddy and his manifest flaws have tainted the family name. teddy appears to simply be a POS but i still hold joe, jr, jack and bobby in high esteem. maybe i'm just a dupe of the propaganda machine, but that's just how i

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Gary, A correction: No Congressional Medal of Honor for Jack Kennedy From:http://www.historyplace.com/kennedy/warhero.htm l in Massachusetts. Jack had also received the Purple Heart. Later "June 12, 1944 - The presentation of the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for Gallantry in Action to

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Son Joe Jr. was a pilot on a highly secret experimental mission when his B-24 blew up. Both Joe JR, and John F. did their jobs as officers. I have high respect for both. But the point was that no Kennedy ever had a real job or ever had to meet a payroll. Old Joe was a bootlegger and a cri

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Rolf
Those people will have to deal with black bars either way then won't they? Might as well be forward looking :). -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There is no point in getting a 4:3 tv these days, >> > > People who have a l

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no point in getting a 4:3 tv these days, People who have a large amount of otherwise-unavailable material archived in 4:3 format might disagree with you! A small subset of the public, true, but one that is going to be inco

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Sunil Hari
My dad bought a sony bravia xbr3 LCD tv from Costco and has been deliriously happy with it. There's a push to buy 1080p (and not just 720p) because in the future broadcasters will broadcast in 1080p; I'm not buying it because by that time, I'll need a new tv anyway. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:57 PM

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Rolf
Well yes, but horizontal vs diagonal is going to make all the difference. There is no point in getting a 4:3 tv these days, not in 2 more years. If you do over the air make sure it has an ATSC tuner (most but not all do). -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Rolf <[EMAI

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget that LCD is measured > on the bottom where CRT is diagonal. Not true, it's just that most LCDs are 16:9 format, and 16:9 screens have less area for the same diagonal compared to 4:3 screens---about 10% less, so they ap

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
jack earned a congressional medal of honor as well in the pacific and they don't just give those out no matter who your daddy is. (i think i'm right on that. correct me if i'm wrong) On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John F and his older brother were at l

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Osama Obama (ted kennedy quote) says nothing, but says it so eloquently that the sheeple swoon. At 02:13 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote: >Isn't this the opposite. We hear references to Obama as the black >John Kennedy. Either he, or a smart advisor has >put him on the road to the top by speaking fairly

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
nada low retail is 6k, so i'd like to at least get that. anyone know about met life, particularly their charlotte office? On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ebay and craiglist ads :) Preferably inflated prices in the priot and > not the latter which tends to be mor

Re: [MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Rolf
Ebay and craiglist ads :) Preferably inflated prices in the priot and not the latter which tends to be more realistic. -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: > got the police report today and the listing for hte insurance is > "metropolitan." i figured this was met life, but also thought it could be > metropol

Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread Rolf
Make sure you get a Dynamic Contrast Ratio capable screen, the contrast ratios will be in the 1:5000+ range. Don't forget that LCD is measured on the bottom where CRT is diagonal. That 30" is going to be about the same or smaller even than the 25" CRT. You will also want to make sure it is an 8 bit

[MBZ] joy of joys -- my colombians have real car insurance!

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
got the police report today and the listing for hte insurance is "metropolitan." i figured this was met life, but also thought it could be metropolitan tijuana casualty, in which case i'm probably not getting paid. i just got off the phone with met life. yes, it is their policy! so now i've go

[MBZ] OT - LCD TVs

2008-04-07 Thread LWB250
Our aging 25" Magnavox (Philips) CRT TV passed on the other day (lost it's horizontal hold, I'm sorry to say.) Just what I need with having to get a house ready to go on the market... Anyway, I'm looking at 30"-32" LCD TVs these days. Anyone bought one recently, and want to share what they learn

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread LWB250
Having rebuilt domestic transmissions, I would caution one against doing this. The investment in time and tools doesn't work out compared to buying a reman from Rusty, not to mention the downtime. And what happens when you get it installed and it doesn't work? Just my $0.02... Dan --- R A Be

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Oops, I got Luther's tranny confused with Kaleb's engine. I wonder if luther could get a complete tailshaft housing with governor cheaply from somebody like Kaleb. Mitch Haley wrote: > > R A Bennell wrote: > > > > Have you thought about re-building it yourself? Kits are available. > > What's a

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > > Have you thought about re-building it yourself? Kits are available. What's a Mahle sleeve kit go for these days, $200-300 a hole? I think I recall Kaleb saying something about oil consumption on a trip and then the car wouldn't restart. That could mean everything that mov

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move

2008-04-07 Thread R A Bennell
Have you thought about re-building it yourself? Kits are available. Nice clean work surface and some time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SD

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread R A Bennell
Isn't this the opposite. We hear references to Obama as the black John Kennedy. Either he, or a smart advisor has put him on the road to the top by speaking fairly eloquently about change. America is in a bit of a rough spot at the moment so change sells big time. He may not be able to pull it of

Re: [MBZ] Chowda'Q

2008-04-07 Thread R A Bennell
It is called The Round Table. Located on Pembina Highway just north of Stafford St in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [M

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Yup. She's pretty much has me figured out after 28 years. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner Bob, Sounds like a ke

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Bob, Sounds like a keeper to me and I don't mean the BlueTec. Chuck On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Robert Rentfro wrote: > And, just as she was > leaving, my wife told me, "Don't even think of it unless the > payment can > stay the same and we can get a Platinum Blue one. You're spoile

[MBZ] Blutec Dealer Loaners......

2008-04-07 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
A while ago, my local dealer sent out a letter stating they were no longer giving Mercedes (Mostly C class) cars as loaners due to mounting costs. Now there's an Enterprise car rental desk right next to the service writer's desk. They rent at "discounted" rates to customers who need a loaner.. W

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Luther
Obama, being a Constitutional Law professor, is a bigger heretic than most Luther On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:25:34 -0500, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He seems to be saying things he thinks his potential voters want to hear. > But he doesn't seem to be thinking > out the longer term resul

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Sunil mentioned: "there are worse habits than Benzes, you know. Your wives should thank you daily." Funny you should mention wives. Mondays are my regular day off now. I sometimes take Starbucks to my wife and her office mates. Today when, when I called her to dropped of the joe, she came out

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
Hey Robert -- And the trap closes on another rabbit! Buuuhawwwha -- ;-) I hope it ends up being the most treasured purchase you ever make -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youro

Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT

2008-04-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
I assume you're talking about those who don't really care if they get hurt, or those too desperate or on too many drugs? Or perhaps you just care to sound superior, Andrew? Oh, I meant to end that win an ... Brian On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:41 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
You wrote - <> The amazing thing is how many engines continue to run for many miles when slapped together like this - course, other put together similarily fail quickly. ;-\ Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
He seems to be saying things he thinks his potential voters want to hear. But he doesn't seem to be thinking out the longer term results of his policy. The tax thing will cause our economical situation to get worse. But the thing that really bothers me is his position on the 2nd Amend. One mi

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Sunil Hari
there are worse habits than Benzes, you know. Your wives should thank you daily. I already called salesboy. > > It's a conspiracy against me. > Don't drive won unless you're prepared to buy one. > Bob R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Be

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I already called salesboy. It's a conspiracy against me. Don't drive won unless you're prepared to buy one. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread jfreezn
Kaleb, MB diesels are designed to run a very tight piston fit, less than 0.002".? You would be hard pressed to feel, let alone see, 0.002" movement.? Overheating, or very high mileage would be the likely causes of piston slop.? I think you should replace the engine with your spare. Cracks betw

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread Jeff Zedic
Come to the UK if you want crappy cars/vans with a dieselall the Grand Voyagers in my neighbourhood are diesel. So are the Cheeps...and Land Rovers/Range Rovers...well, not ALL the Range Roverssome poseurs still drive the petrol crap. You gotta love all the Aston Martins and Bentley Contin

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread John Freer
And with McCains position on the Iraq Invasion until we "win" something, I guess that won't become an additional tax burden, right? On 4/7/08, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaleb wrote: > > "I have always wanted to know this myself. I just hear he is about > change. Well, ok." > > He

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread LWB250
Kaleb, There is always going to be some "slop" in the piston fit in the bore, even in a new engine. There has got to be room for the piston to expand as it heats up, hence the need for the rings - otherwise you could count on the piston to seal on it's own. The big question is how much slop is t

Re: [MBZ] Too-cheap-to-be-true 300E update

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok, $600 cars tend to be just that. they should be pretty messed up. > I agree, but I have bought more than one sub $1000 beater that has been perfectly safe transportation, if not necessarily what you want to be seen in on a

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
Our 2 locals dealers both give MB loaners - and I bet that policy has resulted in the sales of a lot of new cars! Hmm.. I wonder if I should test drive a Bluetec? naah better not or I'll end up like Renfro with a new MB on the way - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oi

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
John F and his older brother were at least officers in the military, that is as close to a real job any kennedy has had since Joe made gazillions as a criminal. At 04:54 PM 4/6/2008, you wrote: >I'm sure everyone knows how the Kennedy fortune was made? Running Rum >during prohibition - same way

Re: [MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list

2008-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Huh? The 2007 Cheep Grand Cherokee was the only one of the much touted 2007 dodge lineup with MB Bluetec engines that actually materialized. Only problem was that the Cheep was $50k. I told the Stealer that for $50 k, I'd buy a real Mercedes. The Cheep Liberty had an italian (no parts avail

Re: [MBZ] Too-cheap-to-be-true 300E update

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
ok, $600 cars tend to be just that. they should be pretty messed up. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What a bummer on the 300E, and way to go for sniffing out the head > gas

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those bastages at the dealer. They gave me a new E320 Bluetec to drive while > my cars is in the shop. Interesting. Wonder if that is dealer or MBNA policy? My local dealer, a few years ago at least, had Neons as servic

Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Benzes are legal, crack is not. Go figure. --R Robert Rentfro wrote: > Those bastages at the dealer. They gave me a new E320 Bluetec to drive while > my cars is in the shop. This thing is sweet. 32 mpg mixed freeway/surface > street driving so far. It feels so much more solid/connected than the

Re: [MBZ] Too-cheap-to-be-true 300E update

2008-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a bummer on the 300E, and way to go for sniffing out the head gasket > leak! I guess it's another case of the seller telling only half the story. > I think, unless she was a really good actress, she honestly didn't kn

[MBZ] Bluetec Loaner

2008-04-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Those bastages at the dealer. They gave me a new E320 Bluetec to drive while my cars is in the shop. This thing is sweet. 32 mpg mixed freeway/surface street driving so far. It feels so much more solid/connected than the gasser. The good solid diesel feeling and I know you all know what I mean. I

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
But its for the children. --R Rick Knoble wrote: >> Hillary and Obama have promised that they will end the tax cuts. That means >> an increase in >taxes. I pay too much as it is. >> > > No doubt. Me too. And anyone one this list that makes over 35k a year single > or 75k a year filing jo

Re: [MBZ] loose 300SDL pistons

2008-04-07 Thread Luther
I've got $500 here waiting for you to deliver it to my door Luther On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:55:40 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I have this 300SDL I picked up a while back. The guy who had it > bought it from a list member from another list. Drove it back somewhere

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Rick Knoble
>Hillary and Obama have promised that they will end the tax cuts. That means >an increase in >taxes. I pay too much as it is. No doubt. Me too. And anyone one this list that makes over 35k a year single or 75k a year filing jointly. We are in for a major shock when the tax cuts expire Ri

Re: [MBZ] Too-cheap-to-be-true 300E update

2008-04-07 Thread Gary Hurst
they pretty much all have a head gasket leak. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a bummer on the 300E, and way to go for sniffing out the head gasket > leak! I guess it's another case of the seller telling only half the > story. > > Kevin in Hillsboro,

[MBZ] OT: Condi Rice for VP?

2008-04-07 Thread Donald Snook
I am sure some of you crazy crackpots (who think GWB is the worst president ever and is gleefully spitting on the constitution) :) won't like this, but it sure is an interesting idea. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
IIRC, the main problem with those shoe x-ray machines was the store employees that used them every day. One salesman used to manipulate the foot/shoe inside the machine. Bone cancer in his right hand IIRC. Mitch. LarryT wrote: > > Remember those xray machines the show stores used to use? Anyone

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list

2008-04-07 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "I have always wanted to know this myself. I just hear he is about change. Well, ok." He represents a change all right. A change in TAX POLICY. He has already said he will end the Bush Tax cuts and wants to propose significant increases in the capital gains tax, and to restruct

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread dave walton
It would be a shame if preventive medicine ended up killing you. -Dave Walton On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:48 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember those xray machines the show stores used to use? Anyone could walk > up and slide their feet into the machine - and a picture of the bone >

Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB

2008-04-07 Thread LarryT
Remember those xray machines the show stores used to use? Anyone could walk up and slide their feet into the machine - and a picture of the bone structire of the feet were readily viewable. Now there's fear those x-rays caused a lot of problems. Radioactivity was a whole new thing back then.

Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????

2008-04-07 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "I have one I will sell cheaper than that." How much? Is yours as nice as this one? Can you provide details? Is this the Euro model? Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor

Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????

2008-04-07 Thread Donald Snook
That is a very nice car, and I would like another 124, but I think I am looking for a gas model. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor

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