Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay
If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. I like to think of the struts as hydraulic cylinders with a relief function which allows the car to ride nice. That relief function is achiev

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Jim Cathey
OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Here are some tips for cleaning Epson printer heads (I've done more than a few, just finished up reviving an old R800 head for use in an R2880). First, the dye inks do NOT dry out in the printer. They become very viscous, but do not dry. Pigment inks do indeed dry down, but are readily

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread astrasfogel
That I can try on my own - great idea. -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:28PM -0400 from Mitch Haley : Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust > the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral > position if that's where yo

Re: [MBZ] grid

2014-04-19 Thread astrasfogel
Now I want one too, -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:52PM -0400 from Rick Knoble : Or this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?redirect=mobile http://m.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?nav=SEARCH Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:18 PM

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread astrasfogel
LOL! -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:59PM -0400 from Meade Dillon : Let me put it this way.  These poodles get excited about hunting cats about 10x what wakes you up each day. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 19, 2014 9:30 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" < astrasfo...@gmail.com > wrote: > Is poodle a loca

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Meade Dillon
Let me put it this way. These poodles get excited about hunting cats about 10x what wakes you up each day. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 19, 2014 9:30 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > Is poodle a local tree or a hairdo? > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 23:28:54 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > More to the point of passing safety inspection, does it get better or > worse with ten bags of softener salt in the back? Now that would be a simple fix for the inspection. It could be simulated without buying the salt by having one or more

Re: [MBZ] grid

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Or this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?redirect=mobile http://m.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?nav=SEARCH Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:18 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] grid

Re: [MBZ] Cuban Missile Crisis - Wilton?

2014-04-19 Thread WILTON
Well, there's not much to tell, but here it is. In late October 1962, I was about to finish the flying phase of B-52 Combat Crew Training School (CCTS) at Walker AFB, Roswell, NM. I had flown my last training mission and went to the base the following morning to plan for my final check ride (

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it I'd still like to know what makes Andy's wagon go boing, boing, boing. Would having too hig

[MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it does that make sense springs at rest, adjust rod thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins _

[MBZ] grid

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
how about some grid like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plastic-Replacement-Grid-for-15-Drip-Tray-Draft-Beer-Tray-Prevent-Splashing-/280928527836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4168a525dc thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I tossed the old spheres 3 years ago I changed mine 8 years ago, so mine were probably recycled long ago too. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Cat Food arrest

2014-04-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Because if I did, the list police would throw me in jail. Hendrik who hears the sirens now On 20/04/14 04:23, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Hendrik, why is it that you don't write with an Aussie accent? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives htt

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple car

2014-04-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay
If apple made an iCar the bonnet would require a special tool to open and if you did manage to open the hood to replace the battery, it would void your warranty. Hendrik who is playing games on an ipad but has not opened it up yet On 20/04/14 11:22, OK Don wrote: It was supposed to be tongue

Re: [MBZ] Donald Snooks Beemer

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Probably has 300k on it now Dan Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > > ‎He posted to FB a little bit ago that he bought it back... > > You might get a second chance to buy it, when he sells it again Mitch. > > Rick > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphon

[MBZ] Donald Snooks Beemer

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Knoble
‎He posted to FB a little bit ago that he bought it back...You might get a second chance to buy it, when he sells it again Mitch. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-19 Thread OK Don
It was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek jab at Apple, and should have read "you are not supposed to use it." On Saturday, April 19, 2014, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > What is that supposed to mean? > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, OK Don > > wrote: > > > If you didn't buy it at the apple store

Re: [MBZ] mile high club high mileage at the stealer sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Thanks, Rich. I guess I can stop feeling sorry for myself.. My sls fluid is clear s H2O. On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > Folks > > It sounds like the dealer folks were a bit baffled by the sls system > > is it circulating hydraulic fluid? > > did you open the bleede

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Is poodle a local tree or a hairdo? On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > My wife's sister lives in CH but she is sitting here next to me under a > big poodle. Daughter is in Gboro, driving an SD down here tomorrow > > --R (sent from my mi

Re: [MBZ] stupid question

2014-04-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They are very different Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:01 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > > are 123 300d and 300td back doors the same or different > > specifically will a sedan door fit a wagon or not > > rear door, driver's side USA > thanks, > > xx rick > Rick Hawkins > > ___

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I tossed the old spheres 3 years ago On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Since I installed new spheres it rides less harshly. I don't notice >> excessive bounciness, but it fails the bounce test at rest (won't recover >> quickly enough after

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Rich Thomas
My wife's sister lives in CH but she is sitting here next to me under a big poodle. Daughter is in Gboro, driving an SD down here tomorrow --R (sent from my miniPad) On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Thanks, Wilton. Dan > On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:49 PM, WILTON wrote: > > Tim Cr

[MBZ] stupid question

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
are 123 300d and 300td back doors the same or different specifically will a sedan door fit a wagon or not rear door, driver's side USA thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu

Re: [MBZ] W116 motor mounts, is there a left and a right?

2014-04-19 Thread Allan Streib
Great, thank you! Frederick Moir writes: > Allan. > From the EPC > 123 241 30 13 Left mount for a W116.120 > 123 241 27 13 Right mount for a W116.120 >   > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

[MBZ] Plastic Grid source

2014-04-19 Thread Mountain Man
Can someone help me find plastic grid for use as drain under espresso cup - see pictures at ebay item 231187400598 See the black grid - I should think this might be similar to garden supply shelving? Does anyone have source for this type of grid / mesh? How about suggestion of search name to use? I

[MBZ] mile high club high mileage at the stealer sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks It sounds like the dealer folks were a bit baffled by the sls system is it circulating hydraulic fluid? did you open the bleeder valve in the control valve when opened the suspension should drop on my 82 300td altho the ride is terrible and the car sinks at rest, the system mai

Re: [MBZ] Cuban Missile Crisis - Wilton?

2014-04-19 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: > Perhaps it came to a head in 1983? I remember names such as Gdansk shipyard and Lec Walensa but nothing else - hey, I was busy doing dollar stuff and having babies. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/

Re: [MBZ] W116 motor mounts, is there a left and a right?

2014-04-19 Thread Frederick Moir
Allan. >From the EPC 123 241 30 13 Left mount for a W116.120 123 241 27 13 Right mount for a W116.120   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Allan Streib >To: Mercedes List >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:44 PM >Subject: [MBZ] W116 motor mounts, is

Re: [MBZ] Cuban Missile Crisis - Wilton?

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: ...Pretty interesting stuff for a very scary period of time. My friend escaped from Poland in 1981 and recently mentioned the scary time that could have been the big one in 1983 - in Poland. What was that? Solidarność was founded in 1980. From 1981-1983, they

Re: [MBZ] Cuban Missile Crisis - Wilton?

2014-04-19 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote: > ...Pretty interesting stuff for a very scary period of time. My friend escaped from Poland in 1981 and recently mentioned the scary time that could have been the big one in 1983 - in Poland. What was that? Nothing comes to mind. The push back against socialism in Poland was evident

[MBZ] W116 motor mounts, is there a left and a right?

2014-04-19 Thread Allan Streib
I have a couple of motor mounts that I bought from Rusty quite a while back and am thinking tomorrow I might finally get around to installing them. I don't recall if there is a "left" and a "right" they look pretty much the same but have slightly different numbers, 123 241 3013 and 123 241 2713. An

[MBZ] Cuban Missile Crisis - Wilton?

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I have been listening to Robert Caro's fourth book on Lyndon Johnson's life, which in this volume covers the mid 50s through the end of his presidency. Pretty interesting stuff for a very scary period of time. While listening to the portion that covered the Cuban Missile Crisis, I was wonderin

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks, Wilton. Dan On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:49 PM, WILTON wrote: > Tim Crone lives in Chapel Hill. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" > To: "Mercedes List" ; "Banned List" > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:09 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC > > >> Isn't s

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Since I installed new spheres it rides less harshly. I don't notice excessive bounciness, but it fails the bounce test at rest (won't recover quickly enough after pressure is applied to the rear bumper). Well, if it drives OK with the new spheres, I suppose you could

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread WILTON
Tim Crone lives in Chapel Hill. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes List" ; "Banned List" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC Isn't someone on the list a resident of this area? There's what appears to be a really nice 30

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Jim Cathey
If the springs are too stiff the suspension will ride too high, and you'll never get the system adjusted into the proper range. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Since I installed new spheres it rides less harshly. I don't notice excessive bounciness, but it fails the bounce test at rest (won't recover quickly enough after pressure is applied to the rear bumper). David: Are you saying that all components are sound, and that applying 32-501 will solve my

Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am not local, does that help? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Isn't someone on the list a resident of this area? > > There's what appears to be a really nice 300TD for sale there with a manny > tranny. > > Dan >

[MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Isn't someone on the list a resident of this area? There's what appears to be a really nice 300TD for sale there with a manny tranny. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
David Bruckmann wrote: Sounds like they further misadjusted the linkage. The valve is working if they were able to influence the resting height. The system's operation is clearly described in 32-501. It should be adjusted so that the unloaded vehicle's resting height is determined only by the ba

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Rich Thomas
One thing also to look at it, and I presume your mechs did this, is the condition of the plastic bushings on the turnbuckle linkage. If those are not solid or are missing it will not allow the system to function properly. Have you ascertained if the pump is actually pumping pressurized fluid

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread David Bruckmann
Sounds like they further misadjusted the linkage. The valve is working if they were able to influence the resting height. The system's operation is clearly described in 32-501. It should be adjusted so that the unloaded vehicle's resting height is determined only by the base pressure. The heig

Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Have you done a tune-up on it? Replaced the fuel filter? I had a '96 Dodge Dakota with the magnum 5.2l v8 and I never detected any issues running with ethanol fuel. My guess is your truck has a marginally dirty fuel system which the ethanol is gradually scrubbing into the injectors. I'd further

Re: [MBZ] Cat Food

2014-04-19 Thread John Reames
Like the BARF diet? ;) (bones and raw food... Ground up perhaps?) (The marrow in the bones is probably good for them...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 18, 2014, at 22:59, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > What about unprocessed junk? > > Hendrik >

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread David Bruckmann
It pounds the base pressure and overpressure relief valves and their springs into oblivion. It will eventually also cause strut seal failure, lower balljoint failure, and top strut bushing failure. > On Apr 19, 2014, Rick Hawkins wrote: > i don't buy that about the bad spheres causing valve

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, I wonder if I can clean the print head on my Epson that way. I've been buying aftermarket ink off Amazon and after sitting a year or so it now refuses to print some of the colors. I ran so many cleaning cycles it ran out the cartridges and I got fed up. There are times when it'd be nice to

Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I think tanks that are protected do better than those left out. Lately I've taken to covering the gas caps on the snowmobiles with a rubber glove. Older snowmobile gas caps often have a vented gauge which allows water infiltration even (especially?) when the sled is covered with a tarp. The rubb

Re: [MBZ] Cat Food

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hendrik, why is it that you don't write with an Aussie accent? On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > What about unprocessed junk? > > Hendrik > who is catless > > On 18/04/14 06:04, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> As opposed to processed junk. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >>

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe the pump is not providing enough pressure. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Andrew, > > From my experience with SLS, I believe that you've got leveling valve issues. > > Here's my logic: > > If changing the leveling valve settings causes the susp

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Andrew, >From my experience with SLS, I believe that you've got leveling valve issues. Here's my logic: If changing the leveling valve settings causes the suspension height to change, the struts must be good. If by some chance they were bad, it wouldn't raise at all, assuming the seals on the

Re: [MBZ] Counterfeit Oil Filters?

2014-04-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 14:31:28 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Wanted to follow up on my findings to-date: Thank you, Dan, for doing the research and letting us know about it. > Suffice to say at this point I would not be putting any Indian made MB > filters in my cars. It's simply not worth save a c

Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What is that supposed to mean? On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, OK Don wrote: > If you didn't buy it at the apple store, you are supposed to use it. :-) > > On Friday, April 18, 2014, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > Hey speaking of Apple, how to I find a compatible printer driver for a > > Ca

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
So I went to a dealership for a Club High Mileage event and had an array of seasoned techs work on my suspension problem. :) The consensus was that the bouncy rear end was NOT related to the air cells (spheres), since they are new. We lowered the ride height by adjusting the rear valve linkage,

[MBZ] Counterfeit Oil Filters?

2014-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Wanted to follow up on my findings to-date: Took "Indian" oil filter to the dealer yesterday. Other than the hologram and source being indicated as Austria on the dealer part, the outside looked identical. We compared the actual filters and found a few differences: 1.) Dealer part had "Made i

Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I'm out of the country now, but will try to remember to look it up next week. Anybody have it cheaper than $10.75 + $5 shipping per half ounce? http://www.fuel-testers.com/quikcheck.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-19 Thread OK Don
I'm out of the country now, but will try to remember to look it up next week. On Friday, April 18, 2014, G Mann wrote: > Don, > > Thanks for the tip about the testing kit. Where do you find them? > > Thanks, > > Grant.. > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, OK Don > > wrote: > > > I bought a te

Re: [MBZ] Was somebody looking for a military style Seiko 5?

2014-04-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Meade Dillon wrote: I wonder if the second hand sweep is smooth, like a Rolex? I like the look. Great price, $50 is hard to beat. A modern Rolex is probably 8 beats per second, and I think a Seiko 5 is 6 beats. I kind of want an older King Seiko or Grand Seiko Hi-beat (10 beats per second),

Re: [MBZ] Used parts for those with newer Mercedes

2014-04-19 Thread Gary Hurst
in the old days, a junkyard would just keep what they had. i remember the old allen junkyard north of atlanta and how if you went back far enough, the ford model As would start showing up. the place was sold to the you pull it outfit and now all that stuff is gone today it seems as if no one wan

Re: [MBZ] Was somebody looking for a military style Seiko 5?

2014-04-19 Thread Meade Dillon
I wonder if the second hand sweep is smooth, like a Rolex? I like the look. Great price, $50 is hard to beat. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 19, 2014 8:58 AM, "Mitchell Haley, EA" wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SSUQFG > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz

[MBZ] Was somebody looking for a military style Seiko 5?

2014-04-19 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SSUQFG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result

[MBZ] Used parts for those with newer Mercedes

2014-04-19 Thread Meade Dillon
Wish this place had more cars from 80's and early 90's. Www.BavarianautoMart.com Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-19 Thread rogerhga
Philip, As you said, I can only relate my personal experience with ethanol. And that is, my 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 5.9 liter magnum V8 does not like ethanol gas. It idles rougher and it gets about 2 mpg less. Again, this is my experience with a big engine. When I can find Marathon out in

Re: [MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Jim Cathey
i don't buy that about the bad spheres causing valve problems Pressure spikes. Pretty nasty stuff. Think hydroforming... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery optio

[MBZ] 300td sls troubles

2014-04-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
i wrote the wrong word here So what kind of damage could be done to the pump? i meant VALVE i don't buy that about the bad spheres causing valve problems but we shall see... when i bought my car years ago, the spheres were bad and i didn't replace them for a month or two, i'm sure then