Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Some of us are just so thrilled to have tools at all that we don't even think to check on where they're made... On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "G Mann" wrote: > >> Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on this one.. can't find the original >>

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "G Mann" wrote: > Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on this one.. can't find the original > post. My apology is that's the case. You asked. Kind of. Here's the original post. Rick Sent from my iPhone. A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy,

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread G Mann
Errr... it's possible I lost the plot on this one.. can't find the original post. My apology is that's the case. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:51 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > On 4/23/12, Fmiser wrote: > >> G Mann wrote: > > > >> I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system > >>

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
On 4/23/12, Fmiser wrote: >> G Mann wrote: > >> I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system >> works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect >> threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side >> of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side with an

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-23 Thread Fmiser
> G Mann wrote: > I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system > works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect > threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side > of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side with another > hammer that has good mass

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread G Mann
I've had great success with two hammers, no press. The system works like this, back off the nut, but leave it on to protect threads. Place a heavy hammer [2 or 3 lb. works] on back side of the arm and smartly smack the opposite side with another hammer that has good mass.. [light taps and light ha

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Flame wrench is more fun, but I don't have one anymore. Also exciting when you light the garage, grass, or fuel on fire. Even burning rubber and grease can get to be a challenge. Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) press is to put tension on th

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Max
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) >press is to put tension on the joint, then smack it with a 2 to 4 lb >hammer. Another method is to heat the joint when applying pressure with the H F press. Which is more fun, big hammer or blue wrench? -- Ma

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
price... -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: <1335105158.48667.yext-apple-iph...@web125105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii BTW the "old&quo

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
And the expensive ball joint press i rented was already sprung. It was no better than the HF. The trick with the HF (or anyone else's) press is to put tension on the joint, then smack it with a 2 to 4 lb hammer. THe old joint will come out without ruining the press if you use care. Going in

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
The HF wrenches are like $9 for a set of 10 or 11. The Craftsman Pro line are like $5 for each wrench. It better give me a happy ending for 5x the price... -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have the hf ball joint press, pressed many sets in and out with it with no problem Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Some of them are great, some are junk. I don't mind the poor finish so long > as the working bits are the right size and shape and th

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
BTW the "old" as in up until two years ago production of craftsman pro full polish combo wrenches were tool truck quality. The HF wrenches are complete crap when put up against the cman pro. As far as lubing coarse tooth ratchets such as the old Cman stuff go with Permatex Assembly Lube. It i

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Some of them are great, some are junk. I don't mind the poor finish so long as the working bits are the right size and shape and they don't bend. There is nothing on earth more annoying than open-end wrenches that visibly spread when you use them, except possibly a Harbor Freight ball joi

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Terrible marketing, but after all, Sears is owned by K-Mart, so you really have a tarted up K-mart store instead of a major retailer. Sears missed the boat decades ago, when they slashed quality to make up for loss of catalog sales to the low end of the market. Those sales went to the Wal

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Sears' demographic has changed significantly, and they are pretty obvious about it. I forgot to add that even 40 years ago, the cheap junk wrenches from india that you could buy for $3-5 per set were better than crapsman wrenches. The indian wrenches were almost identical to the "Heyco" germ

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Ahhh Jerry, I won't mention where Craftsman are made... I've given up on Sears entirely which probably helps to explain their troubles. The staff is what really gets me, they're idiots. For tools that don't have moving parts I've switched entirely to Harbor Freight. Their wrenches and sockets

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
bought snap ring pliers from HF and opened >> one up, no lubricant inside. I put in some white lithium grease and the >> ratchet action returned. Too bad I'd waited so long, one had quite a worn >> gear from years with no lubrication but its much better now than it was. >>

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Craftsman ratchets would ratchet anymore so on a hunch I bought snap ring pliers from HF and opened one up, no lubricant inside. I put in some white lithium grease and the ratchet action returned. Too bad I'd waited so long, one had quite a worn gear from years with no lubrication bu

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
t action returned. Too bad I'd waited so long, one had quite a worn gear from years with no lubrication but its much better now than it was. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:05:00 -0700 From: "Jerry Herrman" To: Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools Message-ID: <86EA15007479495CB1D5F

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I hate to break it to you Jerry but as of the past two years, Sears has been slowly outsourcing their Craftsman hand tool line to China. It started with the full polish pro line of wrenches- no longer pro and now china made. The raised panels are still USA. Then they started with the raised pan

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Rick Knoble
> A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy, what will become of > the opportunity to return "broken" hand tools to Sears for an even exchange? A. Just because a company files BK, doesn't mean they are going to fold up. > B. I had a Craftsman good quality offset screwdriver (slot

[MBZ] Craftsman Tools

2012-04-21 Thread Jerry Herrman
A. With rumors that Sears will be going into bankruptcy, what will become of the opportunity to return "broken" hand tools to Sears for an even exchange? B. I had a Craftsman good quality offset screwdriver (slotted, not philips), just like this one on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote: > Those tools that Lowes sells (Kobalt?) seem pretty nice. They have some > nice comfy grips on a lot of them, and they have the replacement warranty. I've been happy with my on-sale Autozone sockets and wrenches. They are very easy to read, fit well, comfortable, etc. I on

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread PM7088
-- Original message -- From: "George Larribeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sears will replace "craftsman" hand tools. About 30 years ago a "Well Tooled" friend lost his garage to the foundation in a fire, including a 3 year old 'vett and all his other stuff. Lucky,

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Those tools that Lowes sells (Kobalt?) seem pretty nice. They have some nice comfy grips on a lot of them, and they have the replacement warranty. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used par

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-12 Thread George Larribeau
rsday, September 11, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress) >I guess it depends on the store and sales person. Our store cheerfully > replaces any craftsman tool I bring in, including a hammer with a > split in the rubber handle covering, swivel ad

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread OK Don
I guess it depends on the store and sales person. Our store cheerfully replaces any craftsman tool I bring in, including a hammer with a split in the rubber handle covering, swivel adapters (1/4" and 3/8") which became too flexible to hold a socket in place, a hex bit (5mm) that kept slipping out o

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Loren Faeth
wrenches is missing a few and my tool box is >rusty. >Dwight > >Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co >Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >Wickford RI 02852 > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Allan Streib >Sent: Th

Re: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress) Last time I was as Sears, the "hand" tools, and I would say really just the wrenches, still looked "decent". ALL their power

[MBZ] Craftsman tools (was Harbor Freight wrenches impress)

2008-09-11 Thread Allan Streib
Last time I was as Sears, the "hand" tools, and I would say really just the wrenches, still looked "decent". ALL their power tools and pneumatic tools are generic chinese low-bidder production. The pliers and screwdrivers aren't great either. I think the "guaranteed forever" used to be a stateme