[NSP] Re: the Guardian today....

2010-01-26 Thread Richard York
"Unmanned spy drone" says the article. I have an image of a little hovering drone which buzzes round nsp mass playings to check on the tunings of everyone present. Depending on the personality of the group leader/teacher, offenders are either helpfully rectified or dispatched. ( in case

[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-13 Thread Richard York
Yes - thanks! R Julia Say wrote: On 13 Jan 2010, Richard York wrote: Julia, I love this word "snotomer" but confess I haven't met it before, neither has Google, it appears... I can sort of guess... Please explain, with footnotes where appropriate :) I worked fo

[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-13 Thread Richard York
Julia, I love this word "snotomer" but confess I haven't met it before, neither has Google, it appears... I can sort of guess... Please explain, with footnotes where appropriate :) Richard. Julia Say wrote: On 13 Jan 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: I can't see LP getting too sticky -

[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Richard York
Errmmm, no actually I got lots of sheets from an overhead projector and wiped it until or there again I'm just getting old and forgetful and meant acetone all the time. Whooops. Thanks, Francis. Richard. Francis Wood wrote: On 12 Jan 2010, at 19:04, Richard York

[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Richard York
Hi Tom, I'll let others advise on the oil, but the bottles are gained by boldly walking into a nail and beauty salon and asking for either an unused one or an empty, then applying loads of acetate to clean it up. Best wishes, Richard. Tom Childs wrote: Hi all, I know this question has probabl

[NSP] Re: NSP Etiquette

2010-01-06 Thread Richard York
Thanks for the reminder, Matt, and my apologies. Richard. Matt Seattle wrote: Etiquette Only couple of gross offenders, but please don't include EVERY message in a thread when you reply to it, just the relevant bits Happy New Year To get on or off this list see list inform

[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-06 Thread Richard York
Palatinate Pipes? tim rolls BT wrote: I guess we may have to consider allowing Durham, CHAPELRY OF WHITWORTH. The Chapelry of Whitworth is bounded by the Wear, dividing it from Brancepath on the North; by Tudhoe, in the Parish of Brancepath, on the East; by Merrington o

[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Richard York
Strange, isn't it? You're right, but I can't recollect ever seeing the "Scotland bagpipes" mentioned, nor yet the "France bagpipes." Yours in puzzlement, but Happy New Year anyway, Richard. P.S. Not being very tall, I suppose I'm a small piper, or at least aspiring eventually to become one. c

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-02 Thread Richard York
And there I'd been believing that old rubbish about payment to the carter for bring in the harvest, and the remaining Anglo-French influence on language in places like Hutton-le-Hole - Haul le Hay Penny. Tsk, as they say. (Enough - I must away to work) Richard. Francis Wood

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-01 Thread Richard York
G'wan then... Francis Wood wrote: On 1 Jan 2010, at 17:59, Barry Say wrote: the most convincing story I have heard is that when the Crusaders travelled to what has been described as 'The Holy Land', they discovered people playing 'pipes' from air in 'bags'. I don't suppose anyone wants

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-01 Thread Richard York
I don't know what someone fed you for New Year's Day Dinner, Francis, but it should be on sale only under the counter. Salutations. Richard. Francis Wood wrote: On 1 Jan 2010, at 21:18, Richard York wrote: There's also the theory that said crusaders found the S

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-01 Thread Richard York
There's also the theory that said crusaders found the Saracen bagpipes upset their horses so brought them back as a way of bagpipe-proofing horses - urban bagpiping myth or not? The same theory likes the introduction of the nakers to Europe occurring for the same reason - it is said

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-03 Thread Richard York
Well said again, Anthony. It's indeed the possession of both skills which is rare. We recently met a lady who had played professionally in the string section of a leading national orchestra for years, and had just retired. Name the conductor, and she'd played under them. She now left the instrum

[NSP] Re: Radio Mics and channel 69

2009-11-19 Thread Richard York
rhaps this link will help answer a few of the questions implied below. The consultation period may be over, but it was unlikely to have made any difference anyway, may be more joy if 100,000 people contacted their MPs. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/pmse_funding/summary/ Tim ----- Orig

[NSP] Re: Old Guy

2009-10-27 Thread Richard York
Thanks Richard, That's interesting - we like Firefox so much better in lots of ways, but it sometimes doesn't play things it ought. Now I'll know what to do in future! Best wishes, Richard. Richard Evans wrote: Richard Evans wrote: Anthony Robb wrote: Here's a wee snippet of Will Atkinso

[NSP] Re: Old Guy

2009-10-26 Thread Richard York
ter I met him at one of Archie Bertram's nights near Hepple and could see just what he meant. Trouble is I'm still not there yet - as Jimmy Little says "it takes a lang time, a lang, lang time"! Cheers Anthony --- On Sun, 25/10/09, Richard York wrote:

[NSP] Re: Old Guy

2009-10-25 Thread Richard York
I'd love to hear it, but am I the only one whose computer sits there for ages with the quick-time logo up, and the message "loading", but no ultimate achievement? Is there an alternative route to reaching it? I can hear the other tunes on your front page, Anthony, they're fine. Thanks, Richard.

[NSP] Re: The Power of Positive Thinking

2009-10-20 Thread Richard York
And to make matters worse we're all into parallel bore, which sounds more repressed than conical bore. Though I suppose being an inverse conical bore might be worse still. May I suggest we refer instead to the "Intra-chanter central musical channel" which apart from being snappy surely removes a

[NSP] Way off topic appeal to Guardian readers

2009-10-12 Thread Richard York
With my apologies for seriously abusing the proper subject of this list... Please do any Guardian readers among you in the UK have a copy of today's (Monday's) section of "Great Fairy Tales" unwanted? I'll happily refund the cost of the paper plus P&P to get one. Please reply off list; and again

[NSP] Folio 3

2009-10-02 Thread Richard York
I opened my computer to write and congratulate Julia & all on Folio 3, & see I'm not the first, so I'll join my voice to theirs. I'll look forward to playing through the tunes too. Thanks, Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/i

[NSP] Re: players in SW

2009-08-17 Thread Richard York
Valerio's right - though you could always buy the Peacock book on actual paper. It's remarkably cheap for such a superb set of music for 8 notes. In fact in my fairly short nsp playing life so far, I've been surprised that although everyone carries the Society Tune Books and the folios, rela

[NSP] Re: Composing location

2009-08-13 Thread Richard York
I'm impressed that you find you can write decent tunes in your sleep, Valerio - I recently woke up from a dream with a world-beatingly fantastic tune in it, and to my glee found I could still remember part of it. Then as the layers of sleep peeled away I was mortified to realise I'd

[NSP] Re: Composing location

2009-08-12 Thread Richard York
.00 do you get a B part? For -L-2.00 did you get repeats? Regards Malcolm -Original Message- From: Richard York [2] To: NSP group [3] Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 5:16 pm Subject: [NSP] Composing location On holiday I set myself the task of writing a tune a day whet

[NSP] Dawn Goff contact request

2009-07-05 Thread Richard York
Apologies to the rest of you for using the general lists thus. Hi Dawn, You wrote to one of these two lists about Rothbury Festival... I think it's next weekend, yes? recently but I deleted the message, and hence your address with it. I have a small favour to ask, if you are going up there,

[NSP] Re: Happy Hours

2009-06-12 Thread Richard York
I rather assumed that the extra extra embellishment was a sort of "in" joke, affectionately smiling at Billy Pigg's enthusiasm for such embellishments and just overdoing it enough for the grin. Andy M only does that once - most tasteful! Mr. May, sir, - if you read this list - was that the inte

[NSP] Re: re notes v. ear

2009-06-11 Thread Richard York
When teaching an evening class on playing traditional music a while back, I was determined to get the dots only players to play by ear, & visa versa too, so they all had the benefit of both techniques. Most seemed to find it useful. So after some weeks of working up to it, and following John K

[NSP] Re: ear-learners vs note-learners

2009-06-10 Thread Richard York
I always found that getting the group to put the instruments down, and sing the tune, as best the voice allows, until it's internalised; and only then encouraging people to play it with the same feel as they sang it, works better than some ways of ear teaching, and tends to get more spirit into

[NSP] Re: Was: this list is safer now//speed

2009-06-09 Thread Richard York
be quite fast otherwise they feel clumsy and uncoordinated; to move along and feel light on their feet they need speed - which the player has to provide. When the piper is simply playing for his/her own pleasure then the music can take over and set its own tempo. Cheers, Richard S. Richard Yo

[NSP] Re: this list is safer now

2009-06-09 Thread Richard York
I find this very reassuring, Matt! I'm still bashing away at Peacock, and only recently took note of the metronome settings in the recent edition, some of which are, to me, stratospherically fast. I've been wondering if these were based on general practice, either current or histo

[NSP] Re: What oil to use?

2009-05-26 Thread Richard York
Please may I suggest that whatever form the Great Reformed NPS takes, it should be inclusive rather than exclusive? The traditional ways of playing are necessarily vital. They have informed the instrument and the music, and they only survived because they are very good music; but there are peo

[NSP] Yet another Oil query

2009-04-29 Thread Richard York
There's neatsfoot, and there's liquid paraffin, and I know there are passionate supporters of each. Colin Dipper, the concertina maker & repairer of very high renown, uses camellia oil on the metal ends, where the keys pass through close-fitting holes, and reports that in 6 years of use it d

[NSP] Re: Cut & Dry Dolly

2009-04-19 Thread Richard York
R -Original Message- From: Richard York To: NSP group Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 9:37 Subject: [NSP] Cut & Dry Dolly To reveal myself as a Softie Southerner who probably pronounces Bath as Barth and thinks there are only wolves & polar bears North of Watford ;-) ...please, what

[NSP] Cut & Dry Dolly

2009-04-19 Thread Richard York
To reveal myself as a Softie Southerner who probably pronounces Bath as Barth and thinks there are only wolves & polar bears North of Watford ;-) ...please, what is a "Cut & Dry Dolly"? It suggests corn stooks to me, but this might be the wrong tree entirely. Thanks, Richard. To get on o

[NSP] Re: Not again!

2009-04-16 Thread Richard York
Welcome back, Anthony. And "here here" to Colin for your comments. I was also there in the 70's, and people like the Albion Band, Steeleye Span, and others further out on their own electric limbs were doing things to folk music which would have had the old boys like William Kimber turning in th

[NSP] Re: When did a rant become a Rant?

2009-04-06 Thread Richard York
Thanks Matt & all. Best wishes, Richard. Matt Seattle wrote: Some strathspeys have 'Rant' in the title also, e.g. Rothiemurchus' Rant, Carrick's Rant. What's being referred to here is a more specifically regional use. I've been wondering if some of the common-time tunes in Peacock (Cuckold, Cut

[NSP] When did a rant become a Rant?

2009-04-05 Thread Richard York
I am enjoying playing "Sir Charles Rant" - or "Sir Charle's Rant" - in Peacock, but the title is interesting. It obviously isn't a rant under the various definitions discussed here recently, since it's in 6/8. For those without Peacock who like words to rhythms, it doesn't refer to tomato sou

[NSP] Re: Canny Shepherd Laddies o' the Hills... back to the music

2009-03-30 Thread Richard York
Wonderful! Which leads me to offer this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q28ikQaPFK4 OK, it's fiddle-orientated rather than either sheep or smallpipes, but don't you think there's scope here for a new category in piping contests? Or perhaps simply a nice variant on the advice to practise with

[NSP] Re: was Re: First 30 tunes

2009-03-13 Thread Richard York
ng over of this unique heritage that drives me to bring it to a wider audience. If you haven't already done so buy Will Atkinson's wonderful CD and you'll see what I mean. Regards Anthony --- On Wed, 11/3/09, Richard York wrote: From: Richard York

[NSP] Re: First 30 tunes

2009-03-11 Thread Richard York
rolls BT wrote: Hi Richard, Don't leave us hanging what did he choose to do? Tim - Original Message - From: "Richard York" To: "NSP group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: First 30 tunes Some years ago I met a man

[NSP] Re: First 30 tunes

2009-03-11 Thread Richard York
Some years ago I met a man who was responsible for some work on the musicians carvings in Beverley Minster, most famous of course being the pipers. His quandary was whether to simply clean them up as they were, or to restore them to what the Victorians had imposed on them, mistakes and all,

[NSP] Re: Halsway success!

2009-03-09 Thread Richard York
Thanks again, Alan and Christine, for organising it. It was my first event of this sort, and hugely worth while. I'm still relatively new to nsp's and still gratefully borrowing other people's sets, but have been on plenty of musical teaching events, both as a student and teacher, and the teach

[NSP] Re: Am I tone deaf?

2009-03-02 Thread Richard York
..sorry, serves me right for trying to be clever & represent a set of random pitches on the "best wishes" bit - it comes out all wrongly spaced... (Looked OK when I did it!) R. Richard York wrote: I haven't yet had time to play with the site, but this relates to a

[NSP] Re: Am I tone deaf?

2009-03-02 Thread Richard York
I haven't yet had time to play with the site, but this relates to a method which it was claimed could teach even "tone deaf" people to sing in tune... and presumably to hear to tune drones. The teacher plays a note, the victim sings what they think is the note. Teacher plays what they actually

[NSP] Re: A light aside......

2009-01-30 Thread Richard York
Haven't had Mr Allen, specifically, but along with all the interesting life-enhancing chemical offers we've had repeated adverts from a printing firm offering not just business cards, but "Free Backside Printing" too. ..Who would you show? Richard. julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: I am currently

[NSP] Jimmy Allen again

2009-01-16 Thread Richard York
Back to this chestnut, before MsTickell's award takes the airwaves up :) Especially since Colin Hill posted the link http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/old-time-music/midi/005200.MID to that amazing rendition on accompaniment with bit of tune showing through , it's been occasionally surfacing

[NSP] Re: Copyright issues

2009-01-16 Thread Richard York
... and let's not even lift small corner of the lid over the hell which is the Public Entertainment Licence :-( Richard [1]julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: On 16 Jan 2009, [2]malcra...@aol.com wrote: How does copyright effect performance.? Especaillay if an enterance charge is made,

[NSP] Re: Copyright issues

2009-01-16 Thread Richard York
Michael Jackson's THAT strapped for cash???... or just that mean? What happened to those nice American ladies who wrote it all those years ago, then? Richard julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: On 16 Jan 2009, julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: But here's a PS: "Publishing" includes typesetting

[NSP] Re: was Jimmy Allen, now copyright

2009-01-16 Thread Richard York
Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure simply recording it does confer copyright, or at least has in the past, justly or not. When various people collected folk singers earlier in the C20th, I believe it's still an issue which rankles that by doing so they did exactly that. I was told that t

[NSP] Re-Images reversed or not

2009-01-14 Thread Richard York
Dunno about ladies, but I believe that gents have the buttons arranged so the coat/whatever hangs allowing you to be able to draw a sword - kept on the left - with the right hand. Or is this one of those moments when the bells & Klaxons go off as I present yet another urban myth? (It's also why

[NSP] OT notes inegale origin?

2008-12-06 Thread Richard York
Reference was recently made here to the baroque French notes inegale - I'm just listening to Radio 3's Early Music Show on Lully. I don't know if they'll mention it, but wonder if the famous story about his untimely demise due to overzealous bashing stick on floor to keep time (resulting gangre

[NSP] Re: Oil and health

2008-11-25 Thread Richard York
l Message- From: Richard York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2008 18:41 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Oil and health Hello all. I'm wary of opening a debate which could possibly re-visit too many personal differences, but would welcome any bio-chemically-minded comment on somethi

[NSP] Re: re piper's pitch v. concert pitch

2008-11-13 Thread Richard York
I risk being shot down for ignorance, but is it not the case that the GHB's were traditionally a shade away from Bb concert pitch, and have now come to roost on Bb as such for similar reasons? ( I just wish they wouldn't play them alongside brass bands, which tend to have a different temperament

[NSP] Re: Concert pitch V traditional pitch

2008-11-12 Thread Richard York
um, if that lot is a "wild stab in the dark", what do you count as precision? ... on second thoughts don't tell me, I'd never follow it! :-) Best wishes, Richard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone please tell me if with concert pitch A=440Hz what is the frequency of A with traditional

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Richard York
I know little enough about this particular song, but it's certainly amazing how many Homeric or other Greek mythological references turn up in apparently quite unrelated storytelling traditions collected much more recently, so wouldn't be at all offput by any Homeric strain here. Reg

[NSP] Over the hill?

2008-10-24 Thread Richard York
The BBC radio news Quiz has just referred to a test of men's declining powers, correlated with age. It seems we start to seriously go downhill after 39. (Not much hope for me then.) The test was to see how rapidly they could keep tapping their index fingers over a period of 10 seconds, a vital

[NSP] Re: Transporting pipes

2008-10-09 Thread Richard York
A small-harp making friend of ours says from bitter experience that cases in the hold should withstand being dropped the 12 feet or so from the plane onto the concrete. It's happened with a number of his harps, & we've also heard of more than one concert harp, in heavy case, being simply pushe

[NSP] Re: Fool, fearing to tread, aka Peacock marks

2008-09-23 Thread Richard York
Dunno for sure, but when I was editing, largely self-taught, a MS I found of an early 18th century gent's favourite "flute" (i.e. recorder) tunes, he had a whole plethora of marks, spirals, cirles with dots, the lot. I looked in the "Division Recorder Book" for help, where there are

[NSP] Re: Fool, fearing to tread, aka Peacock marks

2008-09-22 Thread Richard York
Thanks, both Julia & Chris. Pretty much like lots of C18/19 marks on music then! And in the case of a run of semi-quavers on the nsp I suppose it also has the possibility of "do nothing extra" ? Best wishes, Richard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Sep 2008, Ormston, Chris wro

[NSP] Re: Peacock's Wylam Away

2008-09-10 Thread Richard York
.. and of course I never, never ever, not never at all, make such errors in my own music writing. Not at all, at all R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something similar in the 1st half bar of Keelman Ower Land. There it is dc/B/A/G, with the NM version putting a triplet on the

[NSP] Re: Peacock's Wylam Away

2008-09-10 Thread Richard York
Thanks, both John & Barry, for confirming what seemed logically right! I didn't have the FARNE link, so that's a bonus. Best wishes, Richard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those without the facsimile handy, the relevant page in FARNE is [2]http://www.asaplive.com/archive/detai

[NSP] Re: tchuning... lugs

2008-08-29 Thread Richard York
nary. Also claimed by Norfolk with the addition of the word "luggy" as meaning deaf. Not really the height of either industry or shipbuilding there, I think. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "Richard York" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NSP group" S

[NSP] Re: tchuning

2008-08-29 Thread Richard York
No, it's a sort of sail, hence "Lugger". Isn't it? Or was that a boat with big ears sticking out each side to catch the wind? Richard. Ormston, Chris wrote: And here was me thinking that the 'lug' might be an ancient tool fashioned from a curlew's beak by the early Christian monks of Lindisfarn

[NSP] Re: Not Choyting - advice please

2008-08-28 Thread Richard York
hink) "That's what I think, anyhow. But I expect I'm wrong." Richard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, not sure I agree with this one... -Original Message- From: Richard York [[2]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL

[NSP] Re: Not Choyting - advice please

2008-08-28 Thread Richard York
?). :) That being said, I really liked the playing of Billy Pigg but accepted that he was very much an individual. Just enjoy the pipes and don't get hung up on this debate - much of it is "tongue in cheek" anyway (I hope). I'll probably be burned in effigy after this post! Coli

[NSP] re- Not Choyting, Advice please

2008-08-28 Thread Richard York
P.S. and my main request was for technique advice. I'm grateful for the information already coming in - thanks! The bit about Kosher-or-not was really the lesser part of my message. Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/in

[NSP] Re: Not Choyting - advice please

2008-08-28 Thread Richard York
Oh dear - that wasn't what I meant at all! Just an honest appeal for information which seems to be common knowledge to many, but obscure to me, and I gather, others too. Because I don't know who is truly Outside The Pale I might get the wrong idea, and start thinking wrong things about absolute

[NSP] re-Bellingham show

2008-08-27 Thread Richard York
.. they had no choytce, as it were...? With solemn apologies. Richard On 27 Aug 2008, JuliaSay wrote: > I have just been informed that Bellingham Show has been cancelled. The > field is waterlogged, and it's still raining there. They could not > leave a decision any longer. To

[NSP] re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-16 Thread Richard York
No, it's the little hamlet just down the road, York-With-Outany ;-) R. Is that as in Yorke-Withany? Honor Hill -Original Message- From: Richard York [[1]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:27 PM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] re-Tune title spelling Interesting -

[NSP] re-Tune title spelling

2008-08-15 Thread Richard York
Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably variable thing anyway until relatively recently. When did it generally get standardised, I wonder? Richard York, (or in some branches of the family, Yorke...) Jim Grant wrote: Maybe his name was re spelled at the time of

[NSP] boring test

2008-08-01 Thread Richard York
With apologies... I've just changed all my email settings, 'cos of 2000 spams a day, & am just checking this still works. Happy Summer to all, anyway. R. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Up the Walls of the World

2008-06-08 Thread Richard York
Thanks, both Peter & Rob for these details! Richard. Peter Dyson wrote: Red Shift "Back in the Red", 1987, track one, side one: Valencia Harbour (trad) Up the Walls of the World (Martin Reese/Paul Thomson) Around the World for Sport on this record, Red Shift were: Pete Coe, John Adams, George

[NSP] Re: Flowers of the Forest

2008-04-05 Thread Richard York
I've mainly heard the version Julia gives first, though I got it from Kathryn Tickell's playing. Matt, I haven't heard the Rob MacKillop version - is this the same as Julia's version 1, please? With thanks, Richard. P.S. To Matt - I've just got your Vickers new edition - Smashing! Matt Seattle

[NSP] Re: ebay book

2008-01-30 Thread Richard York
27;t do as much with the smallpipes > and the GHB have somewhat taken over > > > Carl & Helenora Smith > > -Original Message- > From: Richard York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:22 AM > To: NSP group > Subject: [NSP] Re: ebay

[NSP] Re: ebay book

2008-01-29 Thread Richard York
I'm glad it's of interest - hope it goes to a good home! Richard. (I even managed to spell my own name right the second time round :-) ) Roger Howard wrote: It is, presumably, a copy of the second edition (1931), with what appears to be a homemade cover. Fenwick's original Tutor (1895) was edit

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