K-5 and multi exposure ??

2012-02-02 Thread David J Brooks
If i set my camera for long exposure, say 30 with the 12 timer on, and set multi exposure to 2 or 3 will the camera stay in multi until all 3 shots are taken or will it reset to 1 shot with all of the delays. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread steve harley
on 2012-02-02 11:56 Larry Colen wrote He said something very interesting in the video, a detail that has been overlooked in every comment I've read so far, but when you get down to it almost the only thing that matters: It should out perform the K-5. yeah, i noticed that; the other video i

Re: OT PESO - Light Play

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:35 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, Dave showed his, it's only fair I show mine. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6725546807_d951e25dc3_o.jpg Enjoy. Cheers, Dave

Re: What to call the new camera

2012-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/2/2012 1:19 PM, William Robb wrote: On 02/02/2012 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Keeping in mind that it was named by Japanese, the K-01 (Kay-Zero-Wun in english) would probably be pronounced Kay-Ray-eeCHEE in Japanese. (Rei being the japanese word for Zero and ichi being the japanese word

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2012 11:46 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Fkrxy2FAku4/TylI7rKtXYI/Ahk/KEJd0EPjCrg/w812-h609-k/K-5_SE_40xs_silver3_front-top.jpg This is clearly NOT the K-01. It has a

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Peter Jordan
Those were my thoughts. If the standard is 50mm, then that's FF or Pentax have redefined the term standard. Peter On 2 Feb 2012, at 18:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:. Good news then in regard to long glass. No DFAs to be seen, but I'm not sure that's a designation that Pentax would use, even

Re: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/02/2012 12:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Really, are you going to look at the camera? Or look at the pictures you take with the camera? With this one, neither. They could put a sensor and a view screen onto a paper shredder and have a perfectly functional camera, but it wouldn't

Re: K-5 and multi exposure ??

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote: If i set my camera for long exposure, say 30 with the 12 timer on, and set multi exposure to 2 or 3 will the camera stay in multi until all 3 shots are taken or will it reset to 1 shot with all of the delays. I dunno, but I bet you could

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Peter Jordan wrote: Those were my thoughts. If the standard is 50mm, then that's FF or Pentax have redefined the term standard. Not really, a lot of people just didn't redefine standard with APS, and just use 50 as normal 30 and shorter as wide, and 75 and

Re: What to call the new camera

2012-02-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
2012/2/2 William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 02/02/2012 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Keeping in mind that it was named by Japanese, the K-01 (Kay-Zero-Wun in english) would probably be pronounced Kay-Ray-eeCHEE in Japanese. (Rei being the japanese word for Zero and ichi being the

Re: PESO -- Classic

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:05 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Enough about the K-01, though there is something in common here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20classic.html Equipment:: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

Re: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: .. He said something very interesting in the video, a detail that has been overlooked in every comment I've read so far, but when you get down to it almost the only thing that matters:  It should out perform the K-5. +1 I

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera before. At that point, I decided that my initial suspicions had been confirmed and watched no further. If

Re: Ideal jpeg size/quality for the book?

2012-02-02 Thread Miserere
On 1 February 2012 02:37, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Mark, I can't do a K-5 photo at full resolution 100% JPEG quality and fit the maximum file size for submitting to the annual. That means I need to either

Re: Ideal jpeg size/quality for the book?

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Miserere wrote: When I first started using Photoshop in 2005 I took one of my photos with plenty of detail and colours and saved it as a JPEG in all quality settings up to 12. I then pixel-peeped the hell out of them and came to the conclusion that the

Re: Ideal jpeg size/quality for the book?

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: When I first started using Photoshop in 2005 I took one of my photos with plenty of detail and colours and saved it as a JPEG in all quality settings up to 12. I then pixel-peeped the hell out of them and came to the conclusion that the differences between 10

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's this thing called a tripod. :-P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's this thing called a tripod. Most people just call me Larry. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

PESO -- Classic

2012-02-02 Thread Don Guthrie
Yes it is a classic. For one thing it doesn't look like a Toyota. Cool! Message: 6 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:05:27 -0500 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- Classic Message-ID: 4f2ade77.3030...@gmail.com Content-Type:

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Finally, someone more deluded than Pentax ;-) On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Composing on the rear screen is just dandy with a tripod or monopod. I use a monopod at the races and it works fine. Handholding a big lens without an eye-level VF is just nuts. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, someone more deluded than Pentax  

Re: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, steve harley wrote: i read the press release and watch the linked video interview http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press alas the hype about visual aspects of the design and

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's this thing called a tripod. :-P I see the grin, but to address this in practical terms (or at least in my

Re: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/2/2012 1:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, steve harley wrote: i read the press release and watch the linked video interview http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press alas the hype about visual aspects of the design and the reputation of

Re: K-01 for video

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Does it offer significant advantages over your K-5 in that regard? Some additional frame rates is all I recall, but I didn't study the specs. Yep. 24 fps is a biggie.

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Lens road map On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves in the

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2012 6:26 PM, Adam Montoya wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jaume Lahuertajlah...@yahoo.com wrote: ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO): http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html I think it looks fine, but what do i know... I like the looks

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/1/2012 6:45 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group (as though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I agree. It's not so bad to my eye. I would

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: If I had a stable of DA Limiteds or old primes, I'd be pretty interested (pending price and specs). But all of my lenses are on the larger size, and I don't have an overwhelming urge to get a smaller camera body for the DA* 300/4. Maybe it

Re: PAW108 - Winter games

2012-02-02 Thread DagT
Thanks Don, Bulent, knarf, Dave and Jack :-) I don't need a release for this guy, but I think it gets less personal when the face is less visible. More of a general association to the situation. DagT Den 31. jan. 2012 kl. 18:29 skrev Don Guthrie: Eye catching photo - the kind that would

Re: K-01 for video

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Does it offer significant advantages over your K-5 in that regard? Some additional frame rates is all I recall, but I

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 1:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's this thing called a tripod. :-P I see the grin, but to address this in

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread kwaller
Well how about focusing in bright light - if all you have is the rear LCD. I also wonder about the issue in trying to capture action - the delay, if any, between shutter button depression and image capture. So all users of the K01 will be chimping ! Kenneth Waller

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 2/2/2012 1:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: how the hell are you supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? There's this thing

Re: Two days until K-01 announcement

2012-02-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Here we are on February 2 and I wish it was still two days until the K-01 announcement. And I'll feel the same way tomorrow. Anyone for Groundhog Day? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

RE: K-01 and the problem of design

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Whatever. It's ugly. I can put up with ugly if the ugliness makes it more usable, but I can't see that to be the case here. It's just ugly. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: steve harley

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Darren Addy
I agree with those who are reading the tea leaves of the lens road map and seeing full frame (even though they are using the DA placeholder (how could they really do anything else without tipping their hand?). Calling the 50 a standard lens is the most obvious tip off. I think it would be easiest

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact that it will undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad camera. It should prove to be a good choice for some folks. The target

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 2:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: All the bitching about this camera that we're seeing here, on DP Review and Pentax Forums is irrelevant because this camera is aimed at people who, by definition, aren't in these discussions. This doesn't mean the camera will be a success, but it sure

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Tom C
It seems that most everyone that complains about some feature or other are looking at the camera bodies and complaining that they don't do everything, rather than there are situations where a particular body works better than other ones. I like the Q, but the sensor is too small, and it

RE: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Bob W
imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything other than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed Contax RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form follows function it requires a real designer to design the camera in the

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I agree with those who are reading the tea leaves of the lens road map and seeing full frame (even though they are using the DA placeholder (how could they really do anything else without tipping their hand?). I would expect that the DA prefix

Re: K-01 for video

2012-02-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/2/12, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Some web souces I looked at say that 25p achieves virtually the same cine look as 24p. I doubt that the difference is noticeable. But I'm no expert. When I was making a lot of commercials, the directors frequently shot film at 30 and

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/2/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: You're taking a trip, and you want to have a spare body, but space is pretty limited. Besides, the K-5 is just a little too big to conveniently fit in a jacket pocket, or a fannypack, when you're walking around a strange city and don't want to

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: We've all been looking it this backwards: The K-01 isn't a camera for all of us who already own Pentax lenses, it's a camera for newcomers to buy so they'll start acquiring Pentax lenses. It's a gateway drug. Nice.

Re: PESO -- Classic

2012-02-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Nice paint job :-) ann On 2/2/2012 14:05, P. J. Alling wrote: Enough about the K-01, though there is something in common here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20classic.html Equipment:: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally

Re: PAW108 - Winter games

2012-02-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 2/2/2012 17:09, DagT wrote: Thanks Don, Bulent, knarf, Dave and Jack :-) I don't need a release for this guy, Son? brother? buddy? whoever, I like it.. fun shot ann but I think it gets less personal when the face is less visible. More of a general association to the situation. DagT

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 3:06 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand the point you're making and in generally agree, BUT, would you rather have a bunch of fanboys who worship Pentax and therefore think they can do no wrong? I can buy a lot of 8 crescent wrenches or other hand tools for the price of a K-01, K-5,

OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
I have this nifty new receiver, which sounds great--a huge improvement over my 38-year-old Pioneer. What puzzles me is the volume control:  Minimum volume is -90dB (mute), and maximum is +15dB. Huh? What is zero dB?  Is it an arbitrary point?  Is it linked to some undisclosed property of the

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Walt Gilbert
If I'm not mistaken, the 0 db point is the maximum rated output power. But that's a big if. -- Walt On 2/2/2012 5:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I have this nifty new receiver, which sounds great--a huge improvement over my 38-year-old Pioneer. What puzzles me is the volume control: Minimum

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread David Parsons
Kind of hard for that to be the case when the dial goes to +15. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the 0 db point is the maximum rated output power. But that's a big if. -- Walt On 2/2/2012 5:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I have this

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/02/2012 5:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: All they need is a shoe mount optical viewfinder and a lot of the objections to the K-01 go away, or are greatly alleviated. No reason why the Q-Finder can't go on. They already have the 31mm more or less covered. As much as I detest electronic

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 3:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I have this nifty new receiver, which sounds great--a huge improvement over my 38-year-old Pioneer. What puzzles me is the volume control: Minimum volume is -90dB (mute), and maximum is +15dB. Huh? What is zero dB? Is it an arbitrary point? Is it

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Walt Gilbert
I'm pretty sure they don't rate receivers and amplifiers at absolute maximum output. Beyond 0 db there's considerable degradation in the signal-to-noise ratio, so they rate them at some point below that. On 2/2/2012 5:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: Kind of hard for that to be the case when the

Re: snowy owls on NBC nightly news

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
The poor bird who made it to Hawaii this year (their first ever) was shot dead as a hazard to aircraft. http://hawaii.land.blogs.civilbeat.com/post/16450956889/details-emerge-about-snowy-owl-holiday-death Idiots! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote: I have this nifty new receiver, which sounds great--a huge improvement over my 38-year-old Pioneer. What puzzles me is the volume control:  Minimum volume is -90dB (mute), and maximum is +15dB. Huh? What is zero dB?  Is it an arbitrary point?  Is it linked to some

Re: Beer

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote: and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too... Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers). Be glad you don't live somewhere like Russia or France where they have both. -- PDML

Re: K-01 for video

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
This seems to be the direction I expected DSLR video to take, a box with no view finder holding the sensor with a lens mount on the front. From: David Savage You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus. DS On 2 February 2012 23:41, Paul Stenquist

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are probably not even on the

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact that it will undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad camera. It should prove

Re: What to call the new camera

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 02/02/2012 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Keeping in mind that it was named by Japanese, the K-01 (Kay-Zero-Wun in english) would probably be pronounced Kay-Ray-eeCHEE in Japanese. (Rei being the japanese word for Zero and ichi being the japanese word for one) Why not be

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Have a great day, Bill. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List I was sure that Knarf was

Re: PESO - The Gentleman

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks to your wife. And you. And everyone else who commented on this one. And to everyone who just looked. They were a cute young couple. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie

RE: What to call the new camera

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
How about butt ugly? Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: What to call the new

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Bong Manayon
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact that it will undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad

Re: PAW108 - Winter games

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well done indeed. Original and effective. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Eye catching photo - the kind that would make make you stop and look if you were picking one out from a group. I

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/02/2012 7:12 PM, Bong Manayon wrote: Interesting to note that in the school I teach, it gets more attention from the industrial design students than the photography majors. I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a toaster and it would get attention

Re: PESO The Two (just don't expect much!)

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I really like this one. The sublime light makes it, of course. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: GESO January best of

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A fine and impressive collection of images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I do find these pictures continually interesting. Like snow flakes or fireworks they are repetitive but not

Re: OT PESO - B.

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
She may be too young for an old lodger like me but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate her beauty. Lovely photo! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Sent:

Re: PESO - Snow crystal

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/snow-crystal.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: PESO -- Classic

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow, I'd forgotten how ugly some cars were in the seventies. The Nova really hasn't stood the test of time, has it? And to think I used to think it a good looking car. What was I thinking? Nice pic. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --

Re: PESO - Snow crystal

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Agreed. Lovely, Jostein! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -

Re: GESO January best of

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 5:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A fine and impressive collection of images. Thank you Dan. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: I do find these pictures continually

PESO 2012 - 019 - GDG

2012-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The State Of The Mania - A Moment's Reflection The new Pentax K-01 is announced. Ricoh has also announced the A16 zoom camera unit for the GXR too. Both are interesting new cameras. It's always fun to speculate on what might be better in the land of equipment. But ... what I read on all the

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
This is true, larry, but these complaints typically come from different people. Most of the PDMLers are just fine with the K5, and OK with the Kr. The 645D is REALLY expensive, and the Q is a bit nichey for the price. This camera directly competes with the NEX 5N, which is about $700 with a kit

RE: PESO 2012 - 019 - GDG

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very interesting choice of framing. The sliver of a figure on the right of the frame is most unusual and intriguing. I like it! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: PESO 2012 - 019 - GDG

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite interesting, and you caught great expressions ob the faces of mother and baby. I might like to see a bit more of the other child. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: The State Of The Mania

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Stan Halpin
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is true, larry, but these complaints typically come from different people. Most of the PDMLers are just fine with the K5, and OK with the Kr. The 645D is REALLY expensive, and the Q is a bit nichey for the price. This camera

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
Yup, I knew that.  The sound energy changes by a factor of 10 for every 10 dB, and the ear perceives that as a doubling of loudness.  The smallest change in sound intensity the ear can reliably discern is about 3 dB. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From:

OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer I have this nifty new receiver, which sounds great--a huge improvement over my 38-year-old Pioneer. What puzzles me is the volume control: ?Minimum volume is -90dB (mute), and maximum is +15dB. Huh? What is zero dB? ?Is it an arbitrary point? ?Is it linked to some

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, all.  I suspect that Walt may have the answer, that 0dB is the point at which further power brings an increase in noise or distortion. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to go over to the Pentax Forums for entertainment. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This is true, larry, but these complaints

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
MARK!!! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K-01 is here... snip

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/2/2012 6:49 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Size: I don't really care if it fits in my pocket. I have never taken any pictures with a camera in my pocket - I find it much better to have the camera in hand without all of the clothing in the way. Of course not. It works a lot better with the

Re: OT question for electronics geeks

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yeah, well I have an amp that goes up to 11. That's louder than 10. One louder. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To:

Re: OT PESO - B.

2012-02-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe it's just me, but I think she has a doll-like quality in this shot. As a matter of fact, I would have believed it was a doll if you had told me that. Maybe it's just bedtime. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 February 2012 04:49, Larry Colen

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That explains the quality of some of your photos then... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: February 2, 2012 2/2/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread steve harley
on 2012-02-02 19:49 Stan Halpin wrote Good news: it is clearly a variation on the K-5, it has 16 Mp like the K-5, but from at least one source, it is not the same sensor, and it's a different (new? upgraded?) processing engine; i assume that is why it is said to outperform the K-5; we shall

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I believe it's the same sensor but a different processing engine. \ Paul On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:32 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-02-02 19:49 Stan Halpin wrote Good news: it is clearly a variation on the K-5, it has 16 Mp like the K-5, but from at least one source, it is not the same

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread Stan Halpin
That was my sense as well Paul. In any case, it reminds me of the K-X which was clearly a lower-niche product but did some things (high ISO w/ low noise) better than its then-current more expensive big brother. The K-01 is a lower-niche product which apparently incorporates some

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread steve harley
on 2012-02-02 20:55 Paul Stenquist wrote I believe it's the same sensor but a different processing engine. i'm mostly content to wait until people actually shoot with it to see whether it's better; but as to whether the sensor is different, i see many casual comments that assume it's the

Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-02 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:18 PM, William Robb wrote: I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a toaster and it would get attention because of who designed it. Designer toasters have already been done. http://www.bugatticoffeemachines.com/store/bugatti-toasters On

GESO - Bologna, three in one

2012-02-02 Thread John Coyle
The link is to a small gallery (4 shots) taken in Bologna, last year. The first image is good enough as a shot of a bunch of university students on a big (graduation) day for them, but on processing the image I thought there might be three images contained in it that could stand-alone. Was I

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