Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
It looks good on my computer, maybe a touch dark for my taste, but certainly within the range of what is good. My phone must have been having a tantrum! > On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Alan C wrote: > > Looks fine to me. > > Alan C > > On 04-Jul-23 05:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> On Jul 4,

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-05 Thread Alan C
Looks fine to me. Alan C On 04-Jul-23 05:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 4, 2023, at 6:12 AM, Comcast wrote: Very dark. Is this right out of camera or phone? Thanks for the feedback, no it isn’t “right out of the camera”, according to Lightroom I did darken it 1 stop. Going back to it, i

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
A colorful crew! > On Jul 5, 2023, at 10:10 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > NOt so crappy.. I love the one of the two"gentlemen callers" at your (or a > neighbors?) front door. > > ann > > On 7/4/2023 2:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: >> OT, because these are just crappy phone pics, but we also have

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-05 Thread ann sanfedele
NOt so crappy.. I love the one of the two"gentlemen callers" at your (or a neighbors?) front door. ann On 7/4/2023 2:40 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: OT, because these are just crappy phone pics, but we also have glitz chickens dropping by our house fairly often (and we live in a typical suburban

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Marco Alpert
OT, because these are just crappy phone pics, but we also have glitz chickens dropping by our house fairly often (and we live in a typical suburban neighborhood - no idea where they normally hang out). They’ll come right up to the front door. Also, we had a little momma bird build a nest in one

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jul 4, 2023, at 9:59 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > You gave your mom bird a nice place to nest! can't tell who shes is I'm > thinking a finch of some sort.. It's small, maybe when she's out of the nest I'll mount a mirror that'll give me a better angle to photograph her. > > as to e

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread ann sanfedele
You gave your mom bird a nice place to nest!  can't tell who shes is  I'm thinking a finch of some sort.. as to exposure on the peacock  looks ok to me.. on my HP desktop.. and Paul's birdies in trees lately have been a bit  on the too light side.   Which makes me a tad concerned about his eye

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Rick Womer
Larry, I like these pics! I’ve never seen peacocks this close-up, and so haven’t appreciated the details of their colors. The exposure is tricky, as the bird is dark-colored and there is dappled sunlight. I imagine that you already did what you could with the exposure sliders in LR. A friend

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jul 4, 2023, at 6:12 AM, Comcast wrote: > > Very dark. Is this right out of camera or phone? Thanks for the feedback, no it isn’t “right out of the camera”, according to Lightroom I did darken it 1 stop. Going back to it, it looks fine on my phone, fine when large on my computer monitor

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Comcast
Very dark. Is this right out of camera or phone? Paul > On Jul 4, 2023, at 3:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > We’ve got some feral glitz chickens in the neighborhood. One was hanging > out in the shade in our front yard yesterday when I had my camera ready to > get some pictures of mombird and

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
BTW, I see there are also chicken/peacock hybrids in existence! Interesting, that just cost me a few minutes spent on google-fu -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Re: Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Alan C
Do you call Peacocks "Glitz Chickens" over there?  Amazed they are feral.  BTW, I see there are also chicken/peacock hybrids in existence! Alan C On 04-Jul-23 09:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote: We’ve got some feral glitz chickens in the neighborhood. One was hanging out in the shade in

Angry glitz chicken

2023-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
We’ve got some feral glitz chickens in the neighborhood. One was hanging out in the shade in our front yard yesterday when I had my camera ready to get some pictures of mombird and her nest. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53020903352/in/album-72177720309537234/ full set https://www.fli

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: > I >was tempted to make a joke about carrion luggage, but surprisingly I had >the decency to spare folks from such a pun Oh mate that would have amassed more posts than than a mexican fence -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Larry Colen
e scope? Same magnification as the 50-500 on the K-3, but it could be better image quality. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: 12 May, 2018 11:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss List Subject: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Alan C
018 11:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss List Subject: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it with my 28-75 before a motorcycle drove past and scared

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Nope, he was larrying. ;-) Igor PS. Dale, you are not the only who appreciates Larry's humor. Many PDMLers have nerdy sense of humor, but most don't bite. Dale H. Cook Sat, 12 May 2018 16:42:07 -0700 wrote: At 07:22 PM 5/12/2018, Jack Davis wrote: That "ugly chicken"

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Jack Davis
...and thanks for that! J Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Jack Davis wrote: >> That "ugly chicken" is a Turkey >> Vulture, Larry. > > Yes, that was the joke. Although, since it was taken at the air

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:22 PM 5/12/2018, Jack Davis wrote: >That "ugly chicken" is a Turkey Vulture, Larry. Larry was joshing - the Flickr set is labeled "Vultures." I for one appreciate his humor. Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer, Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, us

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Larry Colen
Jack Davis wrote: That "ugly chicken" is a Turkey Vulture, Larry. Yes, that was the joke. Although, since it was taken at the airport, I was tempted to make a joke about carrion luggage, but surprisingly I had the decency to spare folks from such a pun. They ride the CA sk

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Jack Davis
That "ugly chicken" is a Turkey Vulture, Larry. They ride the CA sky thermals continuously searching for road kills. J Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 12/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I wa

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Larry Colen
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 12/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it with my 28-75 before a motorcycle drove past and scared it away https

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the >side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it with >my 28-75 before a motorcycle drove past and scared it away > >https://www.fl

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/5/18, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was able to get my K-3+bigma out of the back of my van and got some >photos of it's friend sitting on the airport fence, for those interested >in the whole set > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157668896223998 I spent some t

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Larry Colen
could. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it with my 28-75 before a motorcycle

Re: PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
LOL! Nice capture Larry! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the > side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it w

PESO Really ugly chicken eating a huge worm

2018-05-12 Thread Larry Colen
I was driving to lunch yesterday and saw this really ugly chicken by the side of the road eating a huge worm. I got a couple of photos of it with my 28-75 before a motorcycle drove past and scared it away https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42021343122/in/album-72157668896223998/ I was

Re: PESO -- Chicken hot on the grill.

2016-07-29 Thread Jack Davis
Agree! Color would sort out my visual wad. J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Oddly, I think I'd like to see this in color... > > ann > > >> On 7/26/2016 9:29 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: >> Just a bit of whimsy, someone else is responsible for... >> >>

Re: PESO -- Chicken hot on the grill.

2016-07-29 Thread ann sanfedele
Oddly, I think I'd like to see this in color... ann On 7/26/2016 9:29 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Just a bit of whimsy, someone else is responsible for... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chickenhotonthegrill.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Sigma Zoom 70-210mm f4.0~5

PESO -- Chicken hot on the grill.

2016-07-26 Thread P.J. Alling
Just a bit of whimsy, someone else is responsible for... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chickenhotonthegrill.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Sigma Zoom 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 UC-II As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immo

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread Jack Davis
:53 PM Subject: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken My partner and I met this delightful young lady in the Market and we liked her hair so I took her photo: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html I thought the chicken on the wall behind her was ironic as we'

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread Darren Addy
I'm compelled to like this because I have impeccable taste. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:47 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > well i wasn't going to say great chicken, that would have been just > plain silly.:-) > > Dave > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Knarf wrote: >

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread David J Brooks
well i wasn't going to say great chicken, that would have been just plain silly.:-) Dave On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Knarf wrote: > Whatever the reason, I'm glad you like it, David. > > ;-) > > Thanks! > > cheers, > > frank > > On 28 July, 20

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread Knarf
ghtful young lady in the Market and we >> liked her hair so I took her photo: >> >> >http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html >> >> I thought the chicken on the wall behind her was ironic as we're all >vegans.

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread Knarf
r hair so I took her photo: >>> >>> >http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html >>> >>> I thought the chicken on the wall behind her was ironic as we're all >vegans. >>> >>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-28 Thread Knarf
k theriault > wrote: >> >> My partner and I met this delightful young lady in the Market and we >> liked her hair so I took her photo: >> >> >http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html >> >> I thought the chicken on the wa

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Great hair Dave On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:21 PM, frank theriault wrote: > My partner and I met this delightful young lady in the Market and we > liked her hair so I took her photo: > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html > > I thought

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-27 Thread Marco Alpert
t;> wrote: >> >> My partner and I met this delightful young lady in the Market and we >> liked her hair so I took her photo: >> >> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html >> >> I thought the chicken on the wall b

Re: PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-27 Thread David Mann
yblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html > > I thought the chicken on the wall behind her was ironic as we're all vegans. > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concep

PESO - Street Portrait with a Chicken

2015-07-27 Thread frank theriault
My partner and I met this delightful young lady in the Market and we liked her hair so I took her photo: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/street-portrait-with-chicken.html I thought the chicken on the wall behind her was ironic as we're all vegans. Hope you enjoy. Comments we

Re: New idea for sensor stabilization -- chicken head!

2014-04-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
attach the camera sensor to a chicken head, and that will do the > stabilization. :-) > > Igor > > PS. For the nerds with curious minds, here is a fun video from the same guy: > http://io9.com/prepare-to-have-your-mind-blown-by-a-balloon-and-a-mini-1565303363 > > > -- &g

New idea for sensor stabilization -- chicken head!

2014-04-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
This is a brilliant idea I just got upon watching this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dPlkFPowCc You attach the camera sensor to a chicken head, and that will do the stabilization. :-) Igor PS. For the nerds with curious minds, here is a fun video from the same guy: http://io9.com

Re: Peso Chicken with out its hen

2010-05-25 Thread Jack Davis
I get it, Dave. "Stonehenge Chicken." You might agree it still needs some inspiration. ;) Good scene elements. Jack --- On Tue, 5/25/10, David J Brooks wrote: > From: David J Brooks > Subject: Peso Chicken with out its hen > To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Barbara

Re: Peso Chicken with out its hen

2010-05-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Funny! I might crop that boulder off the top, Dave--go for a more square crop. It might make the henless chicken pop more. :-)Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" ; "Harry Bolto

Peso Chicken with out its hen

2010-05-25 Thread David J Brooks
Played around with this one a bit yesterday. Trying to get this to work with the back ground inukchuk http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11048130 K10D, Sigma APO 300 f4. slight LR crop Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksintheco

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chances are very good her parents had little or nothing to do with her choice > of > a 'stage name' or nom d'étape. > Oh. I never considered that in might not be her real name... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourg

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:26 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is apparently Lola... >> >> http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/PinkMafia/?action=view¤t=Lola.jpg > And an enchanting creature she is! > > You'd think her parents would have been more car

RE: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread Bob W
> P. J. Alling wrote: > > This is apparently Lola... > > > > > http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/PinkMafia/?action=view&; > current=Lola.jpg > > What a shame. Zero appeal to a red-blooded Irishman. > > Me, I'm not interested, either! > > keith > We English, on the other hand, are all

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:26 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is apparently Lola... > > http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/PinkMafia/?action=view¤t=Lola.jpg > > And an enchanting creature she is! You'd think her parents would have been more careful, though. Naming her Lola

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread keith_w
P. J. Alling wrote: > This is apparently Lola... > > http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/PinkMafia/?action=view¤t=Lola.jpg What a shame. Zero appeal to a red-blooded Irishman. Me, I'm not interested, either! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread P. J. Alling
This is apparently Lola... http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/PinkMafia/?action=view¤t=Lola.jpg keith_w wrote: > frank theriault wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Like Annsan, I collect unusual signs (I'm just not a good a

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:05 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be in Maui in Deceember, Frank. If I see her, I'll get a shot or two, > hopefully before my wife gives ME a shot! Har! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Like Annsan, I collect unusual signs (I'm just not a good as she is, >> unfortunately). >> >> I gathered a few on my vacation in Maui, last month. Here is one of >> my favorites: >> >> http://

Re: PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like Annsan, I collect unusual signs (I'm just not a good as she is, > unfortunately). > > I gathered a few on my vacation in Maui, last month. Here is one of > my favorites: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id

PESO: Tattooed Chicken

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Like Annsan, I collect unusual signs (I'm just not a good as she is, unfortunately). I gathered a few on my vacation in Maui, last month. Here is one of my favorites: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711336 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: PESO -- Chicken Teriyaki for Everyone!

2008-06-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks yummy! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: PESO -- Chicken Teriyaki for Everyone! > Last one from the Branford Festival, (u

Re: PESO -- Chicken Teriyaki for Everyone!

2008-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
The plane of maximum sharpness is at the hand, I think there's enough apparent DOF to pull it off, (though it looks softer in the web sized image than it does in the full size image in spite of using extra USM). There seems to be quite enough mid-range brightness on my half-assed calibrated m

Re: PESO -- Chicken Teriyaki for Everyone!

2008-06-15 Thread pnstenquist
Conceptually, it's a cool image. I'd like to see it cropped quite a bit tighter and with more midrange contrast. Is it sharp? I'm looking on my laptop without my glasses. This kind of pic has to be razor sharp. Paul -- Original message -- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EM

PESO -- Chicken Teriyaki for Everyone!

2008-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Last one from the Branford Festival, (unless some of the other shots strike my fancy more than they do now), this one is self explanatory, I was hungry. Taken day before yesterday when I was carrying the three zoom kit. http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20chickenteriyakiforevery

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
The idea that kings should lead from the front really lost favor after the fall of Napoleon the III, he was one of the last emperors who insisted on leading his troops from near the front. The problem was that while he was a Napoleon he wasn't the Napoleon. graywolf wrote: > A long long time ag

RE: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-30 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of P. J. Alling > Sent: 30 September 2007 19:30 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > The official reason was to record f

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > > >> On 9/29/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:08:03 -0500 >> >> Public television is running a new World War II series

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
The official reason was to record for posterity. Propaganda remember literally means truth. frank theriault wrote: > On 9/28/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bill and Tom, >> >> What is a propaganda photo? >> The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design. >

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread graywolf
A long long time ago in a land far far away the king was expected to be out in front of the pawns leading them. Now they lead from the rear. Preferably from another continent. That was most likely the scariest part of the idea of nuclear war to them, there was no rear for them to lead from. T

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread graywolf
'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit >> spending!) >> >> Propaganda is a loaded word. >> >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> >> On 9/27/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> - Original Message - >>> From: &quo

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread graywolf
for their > sacrifices. > Propaganda to me is about manipulating the national sentiment to > support bad causes. I know others will differ with me on this. > > Regards, Bob S. > > On 9/28/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - Original Message ---

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread graywolf
; financing Vietnam from 'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit > spending!) > > Propaganda is a loaded word. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > On 9/27/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "graywolf

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
More likely a vast right wing conspiracy. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo St

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-29 Thread John Forbes
go willingly, and once there, there's no way back. http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html John > Tom C. > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sub

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread David Savage
On 9/29/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dictionaries are probably a commie plot. LOL Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the direc

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yeah, that's what I figured... Dictionaries are probably a commie plot. Regards, Bob S. On 9/28/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > >

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > Propaganda to me is about manipulating the national sentiment to > support bad causes. I know others will differ with me on this. My definition came from a dictionary. Nya

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread Tom C
The Kings have always sacrificed their pawns, and generally their pawns go willingingly because they have been convinced it is the noble thing to do. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail L

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
TED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > > > Bill and Tom, > > > > What is a propaganda photo? > > The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > Bill and Tom, > > What is a propaganda photo? > The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design. > It was a premature 'celebration' of

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill and Tom, > > What is a propaganda photo? > The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design. > It was a premature 'celebration' of victory, 2 days into a grim 30 day battle. > The flag was raised to inspire those fighting

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
ison today. (Imagine financing Vietnam from 'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit spending!) Propaganda is a loaded word. Regards, Bob S. On 9/27/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "graywolf" > Su

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > > If the Iwo Jima photo was taken in a studio in California is it an any > less > powerful image? Would it have less meaning to a people at war? It is easy >

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2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
Tom C. > > >> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:50:24 -04

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: > On 27/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>(I really shouldn't have written that. Now Cotty will have the horn again.) > > > Those sentences give me the horn. > > (Might get my Derek and Clive DVD out tonight ;-) > Lobster for tea. Or maybe not. -- PDML P

RE: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
18:09 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > Well I guess, my problem is that I consider news photos as editorial > illustrations, not some super meaningful documentation. > Strangely without > captions those particula

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2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >(I really shouldn't have written that. Now Cotty will have the horn again.) Those sentences give me the horn. (Might get my Derek and Clive DVD out tonight ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||===

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2007-09-27 Thread Norm Baugher
Not to mention the fact that he was scared as hell because he was under fire. It's illogical that he would go around picking up heavy solid shot to arrange a photo shoot. Norm John Sessoms wrote: > I think the most likely explanation is the photograph of the cleared > road is the later one. The

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
7;s views on news photography, then we need > to know about that because it must affect the way we look at all her > writing, and the many consequences of her writing. > > -- > Bob > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
My point was that those that hadn't exploded wouldn't and would still look like solid shot. The would weigh considerably less than solid shot and would be even less likely than solid shot to create craters at the end of their flight.. Historically Russian shells were notoriously unreliable. (In

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "P. J. Alling" > If you read the article a quote from the photographer about a fuse > would imply at least some were exploding shells, Some, but not all, ... and exploding shells of that day often did not explode (or exploded too soon). Fused shells were not reliable. For one thing, ther

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Tom C" > I thought it was an interesting study in human nature, photography > aside. > > We make assumptions and draw conclusions from what we see, or we > parrot what we hear or read, and make statements as if they are > indisputable, yet thinking a little harder... > > To your question.

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2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/09/27 Thu PM 12:04:45 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > mike wilson wrote: > > >But. I love the comment near the bottom referring to

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: >But. I love the comment near the bottom referring to removal because of commanders not wanting their tanks to run over cannon balls. Tanks? In the Crimean war? Surely the fighter-bombers would have taken them out easily? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdm

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
For some the world began the day they were born and will end the day they die, and has always been as it is. mike wilson wrote: >> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 09:44:39 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Chicken

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
If you read the article a quote from the photographer about a fuse would imply at least some were exploding shells, Doug Franklin wrote: > Tom C wrote: > > >> To your question... Where then are the craters from the canon balls that >> must have landed *off* the road, in the likely softer soil

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 09:44:39 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > Why is it so interesting? I see nothing that makes any difference to anyone > but > a f

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2007-09-26 Thread Doug Franklin
Tom C wrote: > To your question... Where then are the craters from the canon balls that > must have landed *off* the road, in the likely softer soil? > > I would guess they don't really weigh THAT much and were moving at a > relatively low velocity. How much is "THAT" much? :-) They could eas

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
"Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > >- Original Message - >>From: "Tom C" >>Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >> >> >&g

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2007-09-26 Thread Tom C
>- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" >Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > > > > > Another alternate explanation could possibly be that the road, being > > relatively high, slightly sloped and comparatively smooth (less >fri

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times > > Another alternate explanation could possibly be that the road, being > relatively high, slightly sloped and comparatively smooth (less friction), > allowed the canon balls to

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-26 Thread Tom C
ropel them off the road. Still thinking. :-) Tom C. >From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:50:24 -

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2007-09-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
I agree. BTW, if the balls actually landed on the road & weren't placed there, where are the craters? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >

RE: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-26 Thread Bob W
all her writing, and the many consequences of her writing. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of graywolf > Sent: 26 September 2007 22:45 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Ti

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