RHN which by itself is $60.
> >
> > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=20359120&loc=105&queryType=soft
>
> $100.- ?!?!? Definitely not targeted at the home user, meethinks,
Hence the name; "Professional Workstation" as opposed to "Home USer
Desktop" ;
ion via a web
> interface.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Right now we run IMail from ipswitch on a
> windows box. I'd prefer opensource, but would pay for a good close
> package.
http://www.qmailtoaster.com/
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> Trend's interscan runs on Linux too.
And it stinketh mightily.
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something in bugzilla.
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> yrs). All training will be rolled over to RHEL 3 base this fall."
>
> I am not an RHCE so I do not have a formal announcement on this, but
> this did come from a well-trusted Red Hat person.
It is on the redhat site. This was announced when RHL9 came out. Thus,
there was
beta list is for the (former) RHL
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would like some more input.
>
>
> The QLogic cards seem fairly popular, and they are the only ones I've
> used.
I used to do testing of the fibre devices from HP (for HP). The 2300s
were the best ones I found. I'd go with them. And stay away from Agilent
(unless
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 10:27, Jason Tesser wrote:
> OpenOffice can connect to a database. It nativly supports MySql through the jodbc
> driver.
>
And PostgreSQL.
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this card, and it is there.
Also, included in the box is an option to get a version 3 from linksys
for free, as the card doesn't work with NT and a few other linksys
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OWA/Exchange sucks so bad, or
> because Ximian is very inefficient, but I do know that if you
I've had ethereal open while using it to watch the stream. I was trying
to determine if it was my system or the server. After watching OWA take
up to 2-3 minutes to respond, I concluded it was the s
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updating with RH kernels yet, as they do not have XFS.
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>
> Well AS doesn't include OpenOffice and other "desktop" eyecandy apps. WS
Neither did RH7.x, which is what AS 2.x's base is. AS predates the 1.0
release of OOo as I recall.
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shake that but that's not to say it can't happen or won't.
People, people, people.
RedHat has a corporate Desktop version (WS) in addition to the releases
home users use. One way or the other they will be sticking to desktops.
Not to mention the fact that their admin tools are pretty
remote
> upgrade, I'm not going to have access to the CD player, and I will not be at
> the keyboard...
>
> So.. I still have the question.. How/where do I get/create the installation
> file tree.
Will the box be rebooting to do this, or are you talking about an
"o
next to your smoke detector and you get *more*
radiation than a DU round has.
Further, Tungsten displays no sharpening capabilities on impact, making
it *less* effective, not 'just as". In fact, Tungsten has more insoluble
compounds when inhaled than does uranium.
Thank you for playing &
(Which is what I am
> connecting to, maybe you are also?)
>
> In this case, anyone know of a exchange 2000 compatible mail client
> other than Outlook?
Evolution with the Ximian Connector works quite well.
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Not in my experience.
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nd doesn't even reference
/etc/passwd, as the usernames are stored in the log file. Go ahead, try
it. Remove "other"'s ability to read /etc/passwd and run last. It is
unaffected. Run strings against /var/log/wmtp and you'll see that the
usernames are stored in it. If you don&
x27;t recall at the
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y have one
non-localhost IP.
You know it'd be nice if that info was stuck somewhere in /proc/net/ for
easy retrieval w/o command output parsing. For example perhaps
/proc/net/ip_ethN where N is the device number.
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IF AND ONLY IF it is Version 3 or less. Version 4 takes work.
It's a new chipset in Ver4.
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hanged/modified/replaced etc.
>
> I simply don't want any single Ximian package that replace the redhat
> ones on any of my systems.
So *don't*. The new installer has that as an option. That is, only
install Evolution 1.4, and not the whole XD2.
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> to run a mailserver then do it properly!
And since it is a "fact' you can prove it, right?
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On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 10:00, Peter N. Spotts wrote:
> > We're looking at putting wireless cards into a couple of laptops here,
> > one is an older Toshiba, the other is a new Dell. Do any of you guys
> > have opinions on which wireless cards are supported best and are
> > easiest to set up? We'll
it should
> restart automatically without my intervention. Is there a script I can
> put into the crontab for that?
You can use daemontools, by Dan Bernstein. You could get to them from
www.qmail.org
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> Have you tried mii-tool?
>
Also ethtool for the cards mii-tool does not work on.
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> I *thought* the reason I was seeing funny characters in MAN output
> was due to the fact that I had set LANG=en in my environemnt,
>
> however,
>
> Even *with* LANG=en_US.UTF-8 I see the same funny character pairs
> (which I assume are UTF-8
* have a larger database.
In this case, apt-cache will not find it (the libwx_gtk library) , as
wxWindows/wxGTK is not available there :(
Searching rpmfind.net finds it. Or just go to www.wxwindows.org
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people.redhat.com fixing it, try the shrike-list archives.
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> for RH to counter this - *if* they can.
On the other hand, there will be more time in between releases for Q&A
work. This could well lead to more stability, which may balance out
newer packages being included.
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RAM as well...so I might duck
> down to K-Mart and grab a few 1gb chips...
12? Well crap, I was just getting ready for RHX (Rh-10)!
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ks like we'll be seeing RH 11 at about this time next
> year...
Word I saw was that it will be a 12 month cycle. Seems to be an
accomodation of the 1/3rd of peole who complain RH is to outdated, 1/3rd
that complain it is released too fast, and 1/2 of people that complain
it is too outdated A
gt; version numbers.
Yes, I'm sure the folks at RH all sat around and said "Hey, I know, how
about we do what Sun did with solaris and confuse everyone, that'll be
productive!"
Oops, did I forget the sarcasm tag? ;^)
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> Bill Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
> > X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
> > rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 ->
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:30, Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:02AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
> > X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
> > rate. Some
as
breaking binary compatibility. if the changes are enough to warrant a
new major release number, then it will indeed be another X.0 release,
complete with issues that tend to plague X.0 releases.
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Then, I'd wait for RH9 exams.
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> ** Reply to message from Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 24 Mar 2003
> 19:27:20 -0700
>
>
> > That said, RH is already beginning to differentiate between Enterprise
> > and non-enterprise. Since the &q
thing happens under RH7.3 - all of my machines are 7.3 and
> I can replicate the same thing you just did.
If I am not mistaken, this is a change the Kernel made in 2.4.
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on.
If memory serves, there are people on this very list that acknowledge
they tend away from X.0 releaes. Many suggest staying away from X.0
releases as well. I would think it more dramatic for these people to
suddenly be pro-9.0.
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On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 18:47, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 17:08, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:26:48PM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Also: "
Perhaps something like this should
have been/be posted to certification central and/or a notice sent to
RHCEs? Kind of strikes me as a legitimate use of the system. :^)
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On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 17:08, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:26:48PM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Also: "Minimal installations currently require more than a single CD."
> >
> > Seems like a bug to me. Why not arrange them suc
make people have to DL the whole set and thus be more likely to buy
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> major versions, being 8 and 9. I should be good 'till RH10.
Which at the "new" rate would be this fall
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put out a new major release, which does not promise total
> binary compatibility with Red Hat Linux 8.
>
> Seems to me like a sensible choice.
It seems like amuch less sensible choice when you realize what it does
to RHCE certificate expirations.
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upporting the release of "8.1" says they were at least at some point
planning on an 8.1. Given that as of a few minutes ago anyway, the
position is still listed, it gets very confusing. 8.1 and 9.0??
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e 8.1 doesn't make
> it so. Red Hat doesn't pre-announce version numbers, and you just found
> out why.
>
> Version numbers are for marketing.
Actually, they are advertising for a customer service person that will
be supporting the rollout of 8.1. So I gues
marketing "Look, their "Advanced" stuff is on something TWO whole
versions old!".
If they do not alter their RHCE program to match the changed release
cycle, this is one RHCE that will not be recertifying when done (at this
rate, this very year!). Nor will I
onsense.
Actually, going to www.redhat.com counters it. Right there in the bottom
right corner is a box talking about getting RedHat 9 early.
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I simply don't have time and
If the struggle with a commercial app is not worth it, don't spend the
money on it. If it is a hassle, hassle the company that made it.
You may not have noticed, but OpenOffice (essentially SO) is included in
RH, is in the menus, on the taskbar, and is the default
ng "miles ahead of" but that is badjunk use too.
>
> call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this
>
I feel for you. I'm the same way with "new and improved". Sorry if it is
improved, it can not be new. If it is new, there w
e"? it opens files, it writes
and reads them, it saves them, it prints them, it can be in the menu,
you can have it be the default open action when using Nautilus, etc..
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those MCSEs that
don't know what they are doing. But that's my personal preference, I
prefer hands-on. That's one reason the training I do is all hands-on.
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> >packages. Be root with
> >the machine, grasshopper, and the power will flow
> >through you. ;^)
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> Bill, buddy...check my command prompt up above,
> What does this mean? All of these directories do
> exist.
It means you do not have permission to install packages. Be root with
the machine, grasshopper, and the power will flow through you. ;^)
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l have is a very stable box running
> the latest software, and doing so at a quite reasonable speed. On this
> kind of hardware, do not expect a GUI (X Window) to run reasonably fast;
> those are mostly designed for recently-bought hardware.
I think one could get away with running bla
DBF files. www.python.org and
www.vex.net/parnassus would be good starting points.
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> version 8, or at the very least make it the default selection?
cd /boot/grub
Edit the menu.lst file. Either remove the old entry, or change the
default line.
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how to get
> into a system without a password file or something like that! I've got
> vmware so I could see how small of an image I could come up with.
You could do the same thing with User Mode Linux ... I'v got that here
I'll see what I can come up with.
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between the finding/reporting of the vulnerability/exploit and the
updating of the system, by not using a firewall, you pile more openings
on top of ones that affect, for example, bind or mod_ssl. There are
exploits that allow the remote attacker
s. It
worked perfectly.
If interested, I can post my script example for it. It is one of the
things I use in my sysadmin w/Python class. :)
In shell, you wind up needing to do it the way you do with rcp: sending
each command in it's own connection. Or use expect. :(
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few things..).
>
> And now, I want to re-add the other OS's to grub (it's a multi-boot
> box). I swear, there used to be a way to configure boot options, and
> grub through a utility...
>
> Can some kind soul refresh me?
vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
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:^)
I've been thinking about making a nice list of things to break, making a
program to manage it, and then provide random breakages to help get
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rough the archives of the FTP site, you'll find the iso
image. It is beta, and has some problems with grub not installing but
works otherwise (you can use LILO to start and move to grub
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> Hello List,
>
> Any suggestions on a good book that I can refer to as a study guide
> before attending my RHCE tests ?
I can say that all of the books I've seen for it are crap.
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On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 23:45, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 00:32, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 23:24, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> > >
> > > All I've heard today still makes me feel like I shouldn't mix them.
> >
> >
t it on www.libc.org. In the article, I had
done it for a 7.2 to 7.3 upgrade. of course, you need a good connection
to do it. :)
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OME desktop and RPM, you need their
packages, whether your update tool is RC, up2date, or ftp and rpm on the
command line.
I teach this stuff, so that is why I want to see the arguments; nothing
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t. Jumping back and forth will be a
problem, but it is a human error, not one related to the use of the
tool.
They both suffer from the same problem: namely that if it doesn't know
where to get a dependency, it barfs.
IMO, if they don't tell you *why*, get it from them.
Those are my
Hat channel (if that's
> even possible) that it may be of some convenience.
It is possible, in fact, if you are running RH8.0 you can't subscribe to
a Ximian desktop channel. :)
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> Oh. Unfortunately, Red Carpet and up2date do not seem to mix very well,
> so Red Carpet is a solution I am not willing to implement.
>
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>
> It worked, the Netscape address book works fine after removing "locale"
> lines. Thank you very much! Our help desk guys scratched their heads for
> 2 days on this one.
> Shaheen.
Oh, is that all? ;^)=
My wife was nagging me about it for
Ed Lazor wrote:
>
> These machines run RedHat with no problems? One person told me RedHat
> didn't run smoothly on HP machines. I'm willing to consider them tho, if
> they will work =)
Disclaimer: I now work for HP.
I have many machines form HP, including the new netservers ( 6
processors
Cameron Simpson wrote:
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> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 11:31:09AM -0700, Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > > Or my favorite:
> | > > rm -rf .*
> | > > thinking it will remove the current directory OR all the dotfiles in the
> | > > current
Bret Hughes wrote:
>
> Bill Anderson wrote:
...
> > Or my favorite:
> > rm -rf .*
> > thinking it will remove the current directory OR all the dotfiles in the
> > current directory ... and are root.
> >
> >:)
>
> I assume this will delete everyth
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> Ok people,
>
> I have been off the list for quite some time now so I am out of the loop. I
> have a box that is in need of an upgrade. I am looking to upgrade to a 1GHz
> chip and am wondering if anyone can recommend a good processor/board combo
> that is 100% Linux
Bill Carlson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>
> > For everyone who has suggested RAID:
> >
> > I like RAID, it's very cool. However, the kind of things are servers currently do
>are not "worthy" of the price. What's valuable here, is not what it does, but the
>long hour
em image could be done,
with user backups done weekly as well? Once amonth (depending on size
constraints of course), you could archive them to CDs or CDRW (cheaper
in the long term).
Well, that should give you some ideas. Remember the RAID option, IMO,
it is your best option when combine
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