Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
to:penelope.bos...@nmt.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 4:33 PM > To: Geary Schindel > Cc: Peter Jones ; Lee Skinner ; > swrcavers@googlegroups com ; Texas Cavers > ; Sandia Grotto > > Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave >

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
> anything about that. > > > Lee > > > On 7/3/2018 10:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote: >> Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this >> rescue effort. You’ve made it considerably easier to find the latest, most >> important detai

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this rescue effort. You’ve made it considerably easier to find the latest, most important details about the rescue. It certainly is far from being over with, but at least there is support for the teens and those who risked

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Thai cave rescue: Missing soccer team found alive

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
GREAT NEWS!!! It could still be a long time before they can actually get all the victims out of the cave if the waters remain as high as they are. Nonetheless, they must be extremely relieved. Peter > On Jul 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > >

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] CREE lights

2014-07-30 Thread Peter Jones via Texascavers
Not with headlamps, only as regular house incandescent/CFL lamp replacements. We like them because they are cheap ($4 at Home Depot for the 60 W version) and are dimmable to a certain extent. They seem well made and with luck will last longer as lamps than I will as a human being. With power

Re: [SWR] Ringing stones

2014-05-26 Thread Peter Jones
tuned stalactites throughout the cave. It's pretty impressive Peter Jones On May 25, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Karen Perry wrote: Does anyone know why some stones ring or have a musical quality? Thanks, Karen ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http

Re: [SWR] Ringing stones

2014-05-26 Thread Peter Jones
hammer device attached to various tuned stalactites throughout the cave. It's pretty impressive Peter Jones SITDCP Card 2010.tif On May 25, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Karen Perry wrote: Does anyone know why some stones ring or have a musical quality? Thanks, Karen

Re: [SWR] Oklahoma removed from list of suspected bat fungus areas

2014-05-13 Thread Peter Jones
Humans have carried fungal spores across the entire planet and probably into space, so we should also take some responsibility for this catastrophe. Humans have been responsible for a number of serious threats to wildlife. Sometimes inadvertent, and other times purposeful, but I think

Re: [SWR] Oklahoma removed from list of suspected bat fungus areas

2014-05-12 Thread Peter Jones
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Re: [SWR] My late night thoughts during insomnia

2014-04-13 Thread Peter Jones
I call them heligmites when their initial growth starts on the floor. When they start on the wall, they should be called wallawallamites, don't you think??? Besides, we all know that when a stalactite and stalagmite grow together, they're called Mighty Tights. Come to think of it, should

Re: [SWR] True cavers

2014-04-13 Thread Peter Jones
Donald, I may have been with you on that trip in 1969. That may also have been the trip when you made the major bypass discovery in Groaning (with me dragged along with you) in the ever so early days of its exploration. It's always a pleasure to read about your caving travails when it is

Re: [SWR] Bringing caving to the masses

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Jones
that answers some questions that people may have. Peter Jones On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Steve Peerman wrote: Caver Quest is still better (and cheaper)! On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: I saw this link in the Texas Cavers mailing list by David Locklear: http

Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.

2013-09-07 Thread Peter Jones
Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to have The Donald's theory published again. Donald???…. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: Does anyone still have a copy of Donald Davis's cave dilation theory? If so, it would be worth publishing

Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Jones
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots.

Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Jones
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots.

Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Jones
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots.

Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that

Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth….. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that

Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth….. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that

Re: [SWR] No Place On Earth movie May 3 Austin, May 10 Dallas

2013-05-05 Thread Peter Jones
Yes, I suppose the Starbuckers could survive on Eight O'Clock or Chock Full o' Nuts for a short time, but I imagine it would be tough for them. I'm trying to get Chris to present the film at a theater in Rockland, Maine which supports many of those types of films and other venues. I can just

Re: [SWR] No Place On Earth movie May 3 Austin, May 10 Dallas

2013-05-05 Thread Peter Jones
Yes, I suppose the Starbuckers could survive on Eight O'Clock or Chock Full o' Nuts for a short time, but I imagine it would be tough for them. I'm trying to get Chris to present the film at a theater in Rockland, Maine which supports many of those types of films and other venues. I can just

Re: [SWR] Remembrance

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Jones
A few days late in response because we just got out of four days in Chaco Canyon where there is virtually no connection to the outside world. I do indeed remember Tom very well and wish him a Happy B'day in absentia. Hope to see his surviving family members in Eldorado later this month.

Re: [SWR] Remembrance

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Jones
A few days late in response because we just got out of four days in Chaco Canyon where there is virtually no connection to the outside world. I do indeed remember Tom very well and wish him a Happy B'day in absentia. Hope to see his surviving family members in Eldorado later this month.

Re: [SWR] Remembrance

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Jones
A few days late in response because we just got out of four days in Chaco Canyon where there is virtually no connection to the outside world. I do indeed remember Tom very well and wish him a Happy B'day in absentia. Hope to see his surviving family members in Eldorado later this month.

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)

2012-08-25 Thread Peter Jones
John: Peter Jones here. I am not sure what size of desiccant canister you are looking for, but there is one I use to keep my camera dry from moisture on long caving trips. Works really well for me, as long as the desiccant is recharged and sealed in a ziplock plastic baggie with my camera

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)

2012-08-25 Thread Peter Jones
John: Peter Jones here. I am not sure what size of desiccant canister you are looking for, but there is one I use to keep my camera dry from moisture on long caving trips. Works really well for me, as long as the desiccant is recharged and sealed in a ziplock plastic baggie with my camera

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience

2012-07-02 Thread Peter Jones
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience

2012-07-02 Thread Peter Jones
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Aftermath of the NSS Convention - one experience

2012-07-02 Thread Peter Jones
I just want to add to George's statement that John Woods from California won the Arts and Letters Award this year for his work in photography and vertical training. Like many others, no one could hear the presentation. John most certainly deserved his moment, just as all the other recipients

Re: [SWR] SWR 50th Anniversary Gathering

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Jones
I will add my two cents worth to this. I had the good fortune to discover Andy's Cave back in 1970. As a small cave in a difficult location to find, it did not receive much visitation to speak of. Within a couple of years of its discovery, it started to show the signs of wear and tear, much

Re: [SWR] SWR 50th Anniversary Gathering

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Jones
I will add my two cents worth to this. I had the good fortune to discover Andy's Cave back in 1970. As a small cave in a difficult location to find, it did not receive much visitation to speak of. Within a couple of years of its discovery, it started to show the signs of wear and tear, much

Re: [SWR] SWR 50th Anniversary Gathering

2012-05-29 Thread Peter Jones
I will add my two cents worth to this. I had the good fortune to discover Andy's Cave back in 1970. As a small cave in a difficult location to find, it did not receive much visitation to speak of. Within a couple of years of its discovery, it started to show the signs of wear and tear, much

Re: [SWR] Panoramic Photo

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Jones
I want a copy of that photo, even if it's just a jpeg. I can always Photoshop my way into the image. Let me know how to get hold of it when done. Just wish I could be there as well… Peter On May 23, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Steve Peerman wrote: Hi all! The last I heard, we had 112

Re: [SWR] Panoramic Photo

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Jones
I want a copy of that photo, even if it's just a jpeg. I can always Photoshop my way into the image. Let me know how to get hold of it when done. Just wish I could be there as well… Peter On May 23, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Steve Peerman wrote: Hi all! The last I heard, we had 112

Re: [SWR] Panoramic Photo

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Jones
I want a copy of that photo, even if it's just a jpeg. I can always Photoshop my way into the image. Let me know how to get hold of it when done. Just wish I could be there as well… Peter On May 23, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Steve Peerman wrote: Hi all! The last I heard, we had 112

Re: [SWR] Keeping public lands caves open to the public - strategies needed

2012-04-14 Thread Peter Jones
Mike et al: I have a comment to make on what you just suggested and I agree with you 100%. Years ago when the battle was on in Congress over the removal of lands from mineral exploration (drilling for oil) north of the CACA NP boundary because of Lech, I actually went to visit four congress

Re: [SWR] Keeping public lands caves open to the public - strategies needed

2012-04-14 Thread Peter Jones
Mike et al: I have a comment to make on what you just suggested and I agree with you 100%. Years ago when the battle was on in Congress over the removal of lands from mineral exploration (drilling for oil) north of the CACA NP boundary because of Lech, I actually went to visit four congress

Re: [SWR] Keeping public lands caves open to the public - strategies needed

2012-04-14 Thread Peter Jones
Mike et al: I have a comment to make on what you just suggested and I agree with you 100%. Years ago when the battle was on in Congress over the removal of lands from mineral exploration (drilling for oil) north of the CACA NP boundary because of Lech, I actually went to visit four congress

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Petition to keep public caves open to the public

2012-04-13 Thread Peter Jones
Jeez, Steve, and here I was going to sign that petition just to feel like I was doing *something* to stop the CBD from controlling the situation. Dunham, whoever he is, says that CBD is petitioning the White House themselves to close all caves. If so, they are pissing in the wind as well,

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Petition to keep public caves open to the public

2012-04-13 Thread Peter Jones
Jeez, Steve, and here I was going to sign that petition just to feel like I was doing *something* to stop the CBD from controlling the situation. Dunham, whoever he is, says that CBD is petitioning the White House themselves to close all caves. If so, they are pissing in the wind as well,

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Petition to keep public caves open to the public

2012-04-13 Thread Peter Jones
Jeez, Steve, and here I was going to sign that petition just to feel like I was doing *something* to stop the CBD from controlling the situation. Dunham, whoever he is, says that CBD is petitioning the White House themselves to close all caves. If so, they are pissing in the wind as well,

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Jones
Don't know who took the photo, but judging by the clothing and gear the cavers are wearing, it was likely a very recent photo, certainly not a discovery day photo by any means. Peter On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Jones
Don't know who took the photo, but judging by the clothing and gear the cavers are wearing, it was likely a very recent photo, certainly not a discovery day photo by any means. Peter On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln

Re: [SWR] tshirts for SWR 50th anniversary

2012-02-27 Thread Peter Jones
Tan, Sand and Sports Gray are my three choices. The tangerine is about as close as it would get to a burnt umber, but I know it would be WAY more orange than a good burnt umber would be. I'll take at least two tees, probably three, all medium. Peter On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Stephen

Re: [SWR] FW: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22, 000 signatures!

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Jones
Already signed it a couple of weeks ago. Peter On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:29 PM, jen . wrote: The NSS WNS Liaison is also endorsing this effort, please sign! From: i...@batcon.org Subject: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22,000 signatures! To: bigredfo...@hotmail.com

Re: [SWR] FW: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22, 000 signatures!

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Jones
Already signed it a couple of weeks ago. Peter On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:29 PM, jen . wrote: The NSS WNS Liaison is also endorsing this effort, please sign! From: i...@batcon.org Subject: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22,000 signatures! To: bigredfo...@hotmail.com

Re: [SWR] FW: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22, 000 signatures!

2011-11-15 Thread Peter Jones
Already signed it a couple of weeks ago. Peter On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:29 PM, jen . wrote: The NSS WNS Liaison is also endorsing this effort, please sign! From: i...@batcon.org Subject: PLEASE HELP! Only 10 days left to get 22,000 signatures! To: bigredfo...@hotmail.com

Re: [SWR] Martian sinkhole

2011-08-18 Thread Peter Jones
That is cool!! Sign me up for the survey trip Peter On Aug 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: Could this entrance have been triggered by a meteor falling over a lava tube? http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_023531_1840 and click on this one in your browser for maximum

Re: [SWR] Martian sinkhole

2011-08-18 Thread Peter Jones
That is cool!! Sign me up for the survey trip Peter On Aug 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: Could this entrance have been triggered by a meteor falling over a lava tube? http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_023531_1840 and click on this one in your browser for maximum

Re: [SWR] New Guadalupe District Ranger

2011-05-17 Thread Peter Jones
Ken: Thanks for the information about the new LNF District Ranger. You got it right that we need to educate him to the value of the caves in the Guads, Perhaps we should take him to Manhole to expedite the removal of stubborn rock face considering his past technical expertise in the USAF

Re: [SWR] New Guadalupe District Ranger

2011-05-17 Thread Peter Jones
Ken: Thanks for the information about the new LNF District Ranger. You got it right that we need to educate him to the value of the caves in the Guads, Perhaps we should take him to Manhole to expedite the removal of stubborn rock face considering his past technical expertise in the USAF