--- Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is like comparing apples and oranges. The level of coding
> knowledge in this thread is way low, way low.
In fact, people were comparing J2EE with .NET. instead of Struts vs .NET since
they are apple and
orange.. The subject is misleading...
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This is like comparing apples and oranges. The level of coding
knowledge in this thread is way low, way low.
On 7/1/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Good point. Sometimes you want a Picaso, and sometimes you want a $10
> > painting.
> >
>
> How many people could afford Picaso? That is
--- Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, I don't. This is a really superficial analysis.
This is an empty statement.
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I believe JSF will kill Struts in 2 years...
--- Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The lines with Struts are in fact less, because you don't have to code
> the framework.
>
> On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rick, you are right that you can write struts using very b
No, I don't. This is a really superficial analysis.
On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> V., in any cases of programming, more lines and more classes means more work
> and more money. Don't you agree?
>
> Jack H. Xu
> Technology columnist and editor
>
> http://www.usanalyst.co
The lines with Struts are in fact less, because you don't have to code
the framework.
On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick, you are right that you can write struts using very basic text editor.
>
> My consideation is based on the cost of software development.
>
> Let's say
Good lord, if you want a GUI tool, just make one. This is not a
response to Reumann who absolutely rocks but to those people who like
other people to code for them, i.e. the VB lovers and the like, like
JSF, .NET, etc.
On 7/1/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Henry Xu wrote the f
Actually, I usually compare JSF and .NET.
On 6/30/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We usually compare
>
> J2EE vs .NET
>
> struts can fit into J2EE structure and it is only part of it. And in my
> opinion, you better use some GUI tools to develop struts application,
> otherwise y
On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Leon Rosenberg wrote: I think the larger problem for a java developer
> in a small business sector
> > is PHP or even Perl. .NET is mostly irrelevant, at least in germany.
>
> Agree with you that PHP snd Perl and MySQL are popular on web thes
John Henry Xu wrote:
.V,
I was working on Java until I became a manager.
Hmmm.
In struts and EJB, lots of codes fit into patterns and can be automated.
If you think automating code generation is your best skill, go for it.
It's telling that you selected EJB. You can generate more code
> Leon Rosenberg wrote: I think the larger problem for a java developer
in a small business sector
> is PHP or even Perl. .NET is mostly irrelevant, at least in germany.
Agree with you that PHP snd Perl and MySQL are popular on web these days.
See the blogs and forums, most are PHP. This makes me
> When you have a debate, try not to win the debate by by
> putting words in others mouths and not to exaggerate things
> (such as 1000 times). Considering .NET has not been around as
> long as java/j2ee, don't you think the numbers are scary?
No I don't, and know why? Here is a quote from a ty
> When you have a debate, try not to win the debate by by
> putting words in others mouths and not to exaggerate things
> (such as 1000 times). Considering .NET has not been around as
> long as java/j2ee, don't you think the numbers are scary?
No I don't, and know why? Here is a quote from a ty
.V,
I was working on Java until I became a manager. The discussion seems go to the
direction of GUI vs. no GUI.
My intention was automating the coding process. In struts and EJB, lots of
codes fit into patterns and can be automated.
I was actually developing command line automation utilities
> Btw... Can you name 10 successful .NET sites? Something clearly above 100
> Million PIs / month, better 1 billion PIs ?
> I'd be really interested :-)
>
You see you are missing the whole point here. I have been a long time
believer that J2EE is
good for big honking things. But .NET is
All done on the US sites.
www.monster.com
.NET more than 1000 and 20 pages
Java more than 1000 and 20 pages
www.dice.com
.NET 8490 listings
Java 11159 listings
www.indeed.com (an aggregator for all major job sites in the US)
.NET 68,599 listings
Java 63,451 listings
When you have a debate, tr
Yan Hu wrote:
> Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said "there are much
> more jobs for .NET". How long has been .NET around? 2-3
> years..right? How long has Java or J2EE been around?
>
And
> Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took
only 20% of the se
Yan Hu wrote:
> Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said "there are much
> more jobs for .NET". How long has been .NET around? 2-3
> years..right? How long has Java or J2EE been around?
>
And
> Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took
only 20% of the se
--- Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yan Hu wrote:
> > How many people could afford Picaso? That is excatly why
> > .NET is creeping up so fast.
>
> After you told us about 1000 times that there are much more jobs for .NET as
> for java i tested it myself.
Stop putting words in
Yan Hu wrote:
> How many people could afford Picaso? That is excatly why
> .NET is creeping up so fast.
After you told us about 1000 times that there are much more jobs for .NET as
for java i tested it myself.
Monster search for java: 25 pages
Monster search for .NET 17 pages
+47% for java
Yan Hu wrote:
> How many people could afford Picaso? That is excatly why
> .NET is creeping up so fast.
After you told us about 1000 times that there are much more jobs for .NET as
for java i tested it myself.
Monster search for java: 25 pages
Monster search for .NET 17 pages
+47% for java
> Good point. Sometimes you want a Picaso, and sometimes you want a $10
> painting.
>
How many people could afford Picaso? That is excatly why .NET is creeping up
so fast. As Rod
Johnson asked, how many huge huge apps are out there waiting for distributed
transaction
management provided by E
Yan Hu wrote:
How long did it take you to be this productive?
Obviously, you are expensive for all the hard work you did in the past. But a
bum who needs only
10 dollars hours could do the same thing with FrontPage as you would. Why
would I pay you 50
dollars an hours to just draw a couple of
Here I totally agree with John Henry. Yes, you are a very good programmer if
you could beat
someone who uses FrontPage and you use only a text pad. This is no doubt. As
the analogy I made a
couple of days ago, you are too expensive. How long did it take you to be this
productive?
Obviously, y
John Henry Xu wrote:
code which can be
automated by GUI and tools. Microsoft usually do this job better. Hope we
learn from them.
Jack H. Xu
I am sure you write better than me.
Look at it this way, you could be a sports journalist and I could be a
pro basketball player, and you are writing
Heh,
I hate this kind of discussion...
Maybe you are the fastest keyboard user on the world...
I want to see you refactoring a method, lets say change the method name,
with emacs/vi/notepad if there are about 20 other places in code where this
method is called. With an IDE it takes 1 second. Wi
Heh,
I hate this kind of discussion...
Maybe you are the fastest keyboard user on the world...
I want to see you refactoring a method, lets say change the method name,
with emacs/vi/notepad if there are about 20 other places in code where this
method is called. With an IDE it takes 1 second. Wi
netsql (.V) said,
>>Unless I do fixed bid. Or have my own software company... where you
try to reduce costs.
Have to manage costs in my projects. Or they may be outsourced to ...
Many expensive J2EE projects fall into trap of extral code which can be
automated by GUI and tools. Microsoft usually
Hi folks. I'm looking for some project about calendars... Does anybody know
about any project?
It isn't popup calendar in order to fill a field.
I have to design and program a module where the user can manage their
dates. this module show users dates by day or week or month.
Something like Mic
John Henry Xu wrote:
V., in any cases of programming, more lines and more classes means more work
and more money. Don't you agree?
Jack H. Xu
Technology columnist and editor
Unless I do fixed bid. Or have my own software company... where you try
to reduce costs. So we only do things that r
V., in any cases of programming, more lines and more classes means more work
and more money. Don't you agree?
Jack H. Xu
Technology columnist and editor
http://www.usanalyst.com
http://www.getusjobs.com (The largest free job portal in North America)
- Original Message -
From: n
Suppose your department used to spend 10 million dollars a year, now you need
15 million dollars to do the same work.
So good GUIs to automate repeatable codes are neccessary to cut those 5 million
dollars.
Jack H. Xu
Technology columnist and editor
Ahh.. you are an editor... and not a
Rick, you are right that you can write struts using very basic text editor.
My consideation is based on the cost of software development.
Let's say for the same problem that you tried to solve: before your code was
1000 lines. Now in struts, your code are 1500 lines (remember those setters and
I am happy to announce that my previously Struts-only project AjaxTags
has now been made generic and has been rolled in to Java Web Parts!
This means that for *any* Java web developer, you can now add Ajax
functionality to your web sites with NO coding on your part in a
completely declarative f
Struts only uses antlr for the "validwhen" validator - so if you use
validwhen then you need the antlr jar - if you don't then you don't.
My guess is it will probably work with the later antlr version, but I
haven't tried it. If you do, can you let us know.
Niall
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Fr
Thanks for your help. It does work and now I will have to fix my other
issues.
I will check the link you sent. I really appreciate your help.
best,
Chungwei
--- Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > My tiles-defs.xml has the following line,
> > ---
From: "bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My tiles-defs.xml has the following line,
> --
>
>"-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1//EN"
> "http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config_1_1.dtd";>
Fix your doctype declara
Hi,
I had this error that I could not find reference regarding to it. If
any one knows what happened, please let me know.
My tiles-defs.xml has the following line,
--
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config_1_1.dtd";>
Can't say as I ever heard of Scott. :)
Back in my college days I wrote my own language for compiler construction
class... one of the decisions I made was that functions never actually
return values, they alter parameters. You had to specify whether each
parameter was an "input" parameter or "outp
Rick Reumann wrote:
John Henry Xu wrote the following on 6/30/2005 11:49 PM:
you spend lots of time on getters and setters.
You can use stuts w/ collections, maps, lists. I used to.
No need for beans (I used own "baseBeans" and got rid of it when I found
collections superior). For example mut
You must be scott ambler fan :-)
Or maybe not, he suggests words like a, an, some
public void setValue(int aValue){
value = aValue;
}
In his coding conventions...
http://www.ambysoft.com/javaCodingStandards.html
Regards
Leon
P.S. don't blame anyone for using this.x = x too fast, it's o
You must be scott ambler fan :-)
Or maybe not, he suggests words like a, an, some
public void setValue(int aValue){
value = aValue;
}
In his coding conventions...
http://www.ambysoft.com/javaCodingStandards.html
Regards
Leon
P.S. don't blame anyone for using this.x = x too fast, it's o
John Henry Xu wrote the following on 6/30/2005 11:49 PM:
struts can fit into J2EE structure and it is only part of it. And in
my opinion, you better use some GUI tools to develop struts
application, otherwise you spend lots of time on getters and setters.
Well even many of the most basic edito
From: "Ashish Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have java bean where in there is one property as
> below
> private java.lang.String P813NAME ;
> public void setP813NAME (java.lang.String P813NAME )
> { this.P813NAME = P813NAME; }
> public java.lang.String getP813NAME ()
> { return this.P813NAME ;
Since this thread was marked as OT, I figured I'd contribute an OT reply :)
It is worth noting that the syntax...
this.someProperty = property;
...is usually flagged by static code analysis tools because the incoming
parameter shadows that of the class. True, using "this" disambiguates (is
that
From the javabean spec this is acceptable. However, it is not good coding standards to have a property in all upper case. The java standard naming convention has constance as all upper case, properties as camel case. Struts would have a problem with this because it is looking for the first lett
Hello
I have java bean where in there is one property as
below
private java.lang.String P813NAME ;
public void setP813NAME (java.lang.String P813NAME )
{
this.P813NAME = P813NAME;
}
public java.lang.String getP813NAME ()
{
return this.P813NAME ;
}
is this valid or not?
if not why not and where i c
Hi
Is the Antlr jar needed to run Struts 1.2.7 or is it only used to build
it?
I want to use Struts 1.2.7 together with Hibernate 3.0.5 however each
includes a different version of Antlr and I'm unsure of compatibility.
Struts 1.2.7 comes with Antlr 2.7.2 and Hibernate 3.0.5 comes with
Antlr 2
Its a bug in Version 1.2.7 caused by the changes for Bug 34027. It has been
reported in Bug 35127 and a fix has been applied
I have upated the upgrade notes on the wiki to make a note of this:
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpgradeNotes124to127
Niall
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David G. Friedman wrote:
I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
the netbeans list.
we seem to have a fascination w/ a trainwreck.
.V
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From: Rafael Taboada [mailto:[EM
There is no name attribute in form tag according to xhtml
specification. So if you use or , name attribute will not be generated.
You can use id attribute to identify your form.
2005/7/2, Eduardo José Hernández Cisneros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I recently upgrade my st
What are you trying to do? I don't think that you need to explicitly
load your properties file in your Java - iBATIS takes care of all of
that internally.
On 7/1/05, Ashish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> I am trying SQLMap as stand alone application,
> here is my folder structure
> c:
More information:
http://husted.com/struts/tips/007.html
--
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Software Engineer
Cell : +511-97753290
"No creo en el destino pues no me gusta tener la idea de controlar mi vida"
I am using NetBeans 4.1 and jboss 4.0. Trying to build my latest
and greatest creation, my java compiler
is able to find my .tlds, but not the TagExtraInfo classes.
As shown here:
Failed to load or instantiate TagExtraInfo class:
org.apache.struts.taglib.bean.CookieTei
Any thoughts anyone?
Br
Hi, in ur ActionForm define:
String[] chkRecords; //with setter and getter
In ur jsp define checkbox with a multibox:
list: ArrayList that it has all the records in order to list in ur jsp
idRecord: id of each record in ur database
Finally in ur Action class:
String[] strRecords = myForm.
James,
> While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
> condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
Actually, I'm fairly sure that I don't want to commit to anything more
than moderately fond.
Simon
Hi
I am trying SQLMap as stand alone application,
here is my folder structure
c:
--test
|
--com
|
ashish
|
--data
|
-- SQLMapConfig.xml
-- SqlMapConfig.prop
Hi everybody,
I recently upgrade my struts libraries to 1.2.7 from 1.2.4. I am using
the tag with:
In 1.2.4 version the html:form tag renders correctly the form name
attribute, but when a I changed to 1.2.7 the form name disappeared and this
causing trouble with a javascript clien
Hi,
When an Action (ListRecord.do) was invoked by a JSP , it lists all records from
db like this.
namesurnamedelete
---
aaa1b1| + |
aaa2
You love men? Is it "coming out" day on struts-users, or what?
Man, I love Friday.
Larry ;-)
On 7/1/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
> condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
---
Actually Mark told me offline that he really enjoys harassing people
on our list. This is unfortunate, but as he explained to me in nose-
bleeding detail, he currently suffers from a state of PMS-D (Post
Microsoft Delusion). Typical symptoms include an unquenchable thirst
for midget-porn,
Hi list,
does someone know a good (and not expensive) webhosting service in Germany
who is experienced in hosting Struts-based apps using Tomcat?
My current provider seems to have some problems and I will probably have to
change.
Any hints are welcome.
Another OT issue (but it is Friday and I pr
Hi,
I've been using struts for a while, now, and my system is deployed on
jboss+tomcat. Until version 4.0.1, JBoss came with Tomcat 5.0.x
embedded, but with 4.0.2, Tomcat was upgraded to 5.5.x, and I started
having a strange problem. It manifests itself as this exception:
java.lang.ClassCast
Here is a thought:
If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
Regards,
David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comm
From: "Julian Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> A plain old html link would do the trick, but I'm keen to know if there
> is a way to control the behaviour struts tags.
>
Just based on the docs, I'd say no... but I haven't looked any further than
that.
http://struts.apache.org/userGuide/struts-html.h
Oups, sorry now it works fine ! I use the jstl.jar and standard.jar from the
struts.tar.gz
But now it's oki.
Merci !
Rémi
Le Vendredi 1 Juillet 2005 16:00, Martin Gainty a écrit :
> Rémi-
> Which version JSTL are you implementing with?
> Bon Chance,
> Martin-
> - Original Message -
> From
If the title confuses, then that was the point.
I've been training up some developers to use Struts and the common complaint
is the ambiguity of the Action definition's attribute attribute. Now we all
have off days when it comes to naming properties/methods etc, but this seems
very ambiguous. So
Rémi-
Which version JSTL are you implementing with?
Bon Chance,
Martin-
- Original Message -
From: "Dewitte Rémi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: deal with nested properties
Thanks a lot. More precisely, i must do t
From: "Dewitte Rémi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks a lot. More precisely, i must do this to get it work !
>
> because gives me $ind}
Do you have
<%@ taglib uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; prefix="c" %>
at the top of the page? really should work... assuming you don't
just have a typo
Thanks a lot. More precisely, i must do this to get it work !
because gives me $ind}
Le Vendredi 1 Juillet 2005 14:01, Wendy Smoak a écrit :
> From: "Dewitte Rémi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > In my jsp, I try do do this :
> >
> > > property="numChild" type="java.
Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
Larry
On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulti
Since when does opera support SOAP protocol?
Le Jeudi 30 Juin 2005 21:21, Brandon Goodin a écrit :
> I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> savoring every moment of this :D.
>
> Brandon
>
> O
Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post
Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
He came on the OJB mailing list a
From: "Dewitte Rémi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In my jsp, I try do do this :
I took out the table tags and reformatted a bit.
Where are the form tags? only works inside a .
Assuming you just left them out...
I don't think this will be exactly right, but maybe
Hello all!
I still have a problem that struts creates a session although it should not
do so.
I have isolated the problem and there are only two possible locations left.
One of
them is this:
I have an index.jsp specified in my welcome.file-list in web.xml. This
index.jsp does
the following:
<%@ t
Yes sorry, i have also :
But it doesn't work !
Rémi
Le Vendredi 1 Juillet 2005 13:29, Nitesh Naveen a écrit :
> You should probably have...
>
> type="org.apache.struts.validator.DynaValidatorForm">
>
>/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH
> Nitesh
>
>
> -Original Me
You should probably have...
HTH
Nitesh
-Original Message-
From: Dewitte Rémi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:54 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: deal with nested properties
Hi all !
I have another problem to
Hi all !
I have another problem to submit :
Here is my bean
where Personne is a class of two attributes {name,age} with their getters and
setters.
In my jsp, I try do do this :
And i get this error :
No getter method for property children[0].name
The 'xxx' was just an attempt to remove a directory name from my post. It
is not a context. Making the path and the actions match exactly gives the
same result. The name attribute of HTML forms is used alot in javascript.
_
Dave Kershaw
Lead Programmer Specialist,
Michael Jouravlev wrote:
On 6/30/05, Julian Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The html:link tag automatically applies URL rewriting to maintain
session state in the absence of cookies. Is it possible to disable this
feature?
Have you tried <%@ page session="false" %> ?
Michael.
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