[USMA:47857] Re: USMA member on Oprah?

2010-06-18 Thread Remek Kocz
Great stuff. Sally got my vote. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Paul Trusten wrote: > USMA member, chemistry teacher, school-wide metricator, and metric cook > extraordinaire Sally Mitchell of Manlius, New York, needs votes to catch the > concscience of Oprah Winfrey for U.S. metrication. L

[USMA:48514] Re: Fw: Maybe I can change CNN's Style, was : So What Does the AP Stylebook Really Say

2010-09-14 Thread Remek Kocz
John, can you provide us with the link to CNN's correction page? Maybe if a few of us from this list write in, CNN will notice. Remek On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:23 AM, John M. Steele wrote: > This is confusing. I received an acknowledgement from CNN on km/h vs > kph, that seems to accept they

[USMA:48545] Re: Sinister Mexicans Taking Over America With the So-Called 'Metric System'

2010-09-17 Thread Remek Kocz
The Onion is a satirical paper. They don't report real news. Remek

[USMA:48546] RE: correct SI symbolism on U.S. speedometers?

2010-09-17 Thread Remek Kocz
Count VW into the group of idiot manufacturers. My analog speedometer has only miles, and a small inset digital display can be tweaked to display km/h. VW's gone for an attempt at the "German engineering" stereotype in their cars, so there are many numeric labels in the car. The heat control ha

[USMA:48670] Re: Speed of Rescue

2010-10-15 Thread Remek Kocz
You can do that with feet as well. Here's what you can't: A miner is trapped 1,200 meters underground. How many kilometers is that? In metric thinking, this isn't even a math problem--it's just a part of life in which longitudinal distances can be freely compared to vertical distances. Consider

[USMA:48684] New Subway commercial: so wrong is so many ways.

2010-10-19 Thread Remek Kocz
Here's a link to the new Subway commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DU2QaL1O8Q It's wrong in so many ways. You have three presumably Kenyan marathoners discussing Jared training for the ING marathon. They mention how he lost 245 pounds and how the nearest Subway is 500 miles away. The c

[USMA:48689] Re: New Subway commercial: so wrong is so many ways.

2010-10-20 Thread Remek Kocz
Similar. They squeeze the quarter-pounder name wherever they can. Maybe in France it's called the Royale (per Pulp Fiction), but in many countires, they're pushing some variation of the quarter pounder. Even in the Spanish-speaking world, they're marketing it as a *Cuarto de Libra. *Check out t

[USMA:48744] Re: AP again

2010-11-02 Thread Remek Kocz
Exactly. And since when pounds are divided into tenths? What happened to the ounces? ;) On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:26 PM, m. f. moon wrote: > In today's LA Times, the report said that the shipping officials were > checking every package over 1.1 pounds for possible explosives -- sure > sounds l

[USMA:48780] USPS makes a metric mistake.

2010-11-04 Thread Remek Kocz
Uh-oh, don't tell the US Postal Service, but one of their lobby posters has a blatantly metric reference. Check out the link below: http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos37.pdf You may have to enlarge the pdf file a bit, but take a look at the thermometer: it's scaled from -20 to 50 degrees, a

[USMA:48814] RE: Missed opportunity

2010-11-09 Thread Remek Kocz
Speaking of marathons, what's more frustrating than the coverage, is the ubiquitous presence of the "26.2" oval stickers on cars whose owners want to show off their running prowess. The fact that this goes on, shows the bizarre mixture of units that the running world puts up with. On one hand the

[USMA:48880] Re: Metric System Thriving In Nation's Inner Cities

2010-11-17 Thread Remek Kocz
Yes we did. And we did have to explain that the article comes from The Onion, a satirical news source. Translation: not real. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:38 PM, John Frewen-Lord wrote: > Didn't we do this some little while ago? > > - Original Message - > *From:* Pat Naughtin > *To:* U

[USMA:48891] Change of management at National Geographic?

2010-11-18 Thread Remek Kocz
A while ago someone here mentioned noticing a National Geographic article on the web using metric. It looks like I have some more good news in that direction. My kids have started getting an NG "Explorer" magazine which is not only using metric, but uses it first with imperial in parentheses. Alt

[USMA:48996] Re: Fwd: [A_A] China Passenger Train Hits 300 Mph, Breaks Record

2010-12-04 Thread Remek Kocz
At least CNN does the right thing and keeps it mostly metric on their site. Still have to deal with "kph" though. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/12/03/china.high.speed.train/index.html?hpt=T2 On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > Here goes the Associated Press again with their wret

[USMA:49149] Re: metric-only measurement of oral liquid medication doses

2010-12-10 Thread Remek Kocz
I've seen small screwcap sample vials in a chemistry lab. The box they shipped in was labeled in drams only. Made in Mexico, oddly enough. They're only used for sample storage, never for measurement, but the fact remains that someone decided that drams should stick around. You'll actually find a

[USMA:50005] Fareed Zakaria once again.

2011-03-13 Thread Remek Kocz
Last week, Fareed Zakaria published an article in the Time magazine arguing that America is in decline. This was followed up by a well-publicized special on CNN that explored the topic over 60 minutes' time. Many reasons for the decline and many more ideas to fix it were given. Reading the artic

[USMA:50072] PC Case fans & flow measurements

2011-03-17 Thread Remek Kocz
I'm shopping around for a PC case fan, and I noticed a strange trend in terms of airflow measurements. Whereas in the past it used to be that the cubic foot per minute numbers were fairly round and elegant, these days they've become strange, with up to two figures past the decimal point. I can a

[USMA:50081] Re: PC Case fans & flow measurements

2011-03-17 Thread Remek Kocz
cond those figures come out > to? Or liters per minute? Use >1 ft3/min = 0.471 947 4 L/s > according to SP 811. > > Jim > > > On 2011-03-17 1550, Remek Kocz wrote: > >> I'm shopping around for a PC case fan, and I noticed a strange trend in >> ter

[USMA:50087] Re: PC Case fans & flow measurements

2011-03-18 Thread Remek Kocz
at 6:32 AM, John M. Steele wrote: > Try out each conversion, and see which leads to round numbers. To expand > on Jim's factor: > > 1 ft3/min = 0.471 947 4 L/s = 28.316 84 L/min = 1.699 011 m³/h > > --- On *Fri, 3/18/11, Remek Kocz * wrote: > > > From: Remek Kocz

[USMA:50103] Re: Another NASA use of Ye Olde English units

2011-03-18 Thread Remek Kocz
I hate to stir up the spelling discussion again, but sending comments to NASA using non-US-English spellings of the units makes us look like people from outside the US having a beef with the agency's presentation. The place is already intransigent, let's not give them any more ammunition to say "n

[USMA:50104] Re: PC Case fans & flow measurements

2011-03-18 Thread Remek Kocz
Thanks guys, that's what I was looking for. No need to do all this research, just curious if anyone knew off the top of their head. Remek On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:04 PM, John Frewen-Lord wrote: > The NBCC is primarily a performance based code, and most HVAC requirements > (Part 6) are based o

[USMA:50181] Re: Williams Changes Their Label -- I had an impact

2011-03-24 Thread Remek Kocz
Congratulations John. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, John M. Steele wrote: > I use Williams Mug Shaving Soap. In February of 2009 (see USMA #43258), I > wrote them because they did not dual label their net contents as required by > law. It was labeled 1 3/4 OZ only. They sent me an acknowledm

[USMA:50188] iPhone & Fahrenheit

2011-03-25 Thread Remek Kocz
I find it quite amazing that in their infinite wisdom, Apple markets the iPhone/iPod with that weather app pictured with a sunny day and 73 degrees (unidentified, but we know which scale). From a cursory glance at sites outside the US, it looks like they're marketing it like this to the rest of th

[USMA:50332] Re: Fw: Interesting Customary Error -- Dove Body Wash

2011-04-11 Thread Remek Kocz
I think unit pricing on shelf labels in NY state is the law, so there obviously was some push for it at some point, suggesting that many consumers did want something like that or at least a consumer agency thought it would have been useful. Many people we know compare per unit pricing when shoppin

[USMA:50333] Metric around the Caribbean

2011-04-11 Thread Remek Kocz
On my recent trip to the western Caribbean, I had a chance to make a few stops in the region. While the usual suspects like Mexico are unabashedly metric, places with strong US influence are a mixed bag. The Honduran island of Roatan is a playground for the rich from the US, and it has a booming

[USMA:50375] Re: Alfa Romeo Readies a Stirring Stateside Return

2011-04-18 Thread Remek Kocz
John, this was actually a very good article, more about the metric system than the car. My thank you note is in the mail as well. Remek On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:16 AM, John M. Steele wrote: > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704662604576257300108686920.html?mod=googlenews_wsj >

[USMA:50389] New Contact for UPLR -related issues in NY State.

2011-04-21 Thread Remek Kocz
For all people interested in working on the UPLR in New York State, I have recent news. New York State's Bureau of Weights and Measures has a new director: Mike Sikula. His email address is mike.sik...@agmkt.state.ny.us. His phone # is 518-457-3146. He is away this week, will be back on Monday 2

[USMA:50481] Cracked magazine's top five list of bad habits.

2011-05-19 Thread Remek Kocz
Cracked magazine's online site published a list called "5 Bad Ideas Humanity is Sticking with out of Habit." Guess what's #1 on the list? Read more: 5 Bad Ideas Humanity Is Sticking With Out of Habit | Cracked.com

[USMA:50487] Re: Cracked magazine\'s top five list of bad habits.

2011-05-20 Thread Remek Kocz
actually use metric and are resisting it. The author needs to > be informed that only a small minority refuses to change. Unless the author > is trying to imply that only Americans and what Americans do matters. > > It is also an error that the US uses imperial. > > > [USMA:50

[USMA:50619] Re: Reduced standard sized

2011-06-13 Thread Remek Kocz
Speaking of paint, does anyone on the site know how the painters calculate how much paint they need? I remember asking a handyman once about this, but he gauged his paint at some fixed amount per room (gallon per room?). Remek On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Michael Payne wrote: > I was amazed

[USMA:50621] Re: They're here!

2011-06-13 Thread Remek Kocz
Haven't seen those in NY state yet, but that's still small consolation in light of the fact that the beverage industry has standardized around the 20 oz bottle as the most convenient size. BTW, an interesting bit of trivia I picked up at the dentist: Americans drink 56 gallons of soft drinks per p

[USMA:50754] Smartplanet's imperial blunder.

2011-06-26 Thread Remek Kocz
Smartplanet.com has a good mix of tech/science/medicine news. However, this particular article (linked below) was disappointing. It referred to 0.1 ounces of saliva as being a very small amount useful for forensic investigation technique. I voiced my displeasure in the comments, but all that got

[USMA:50827] Re: "Naked" juice drinks

2011-07-06 Thread Remek Kocz
Might want to hold off on that thank-you note. A few years ago I sent Bolthouse Farms an email thanking them for choosing to market their products in even-sized metric bottles (1L). They recently shrank their liters to quarts retaining the same price. Too bad. Remek On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:37

[USMA:50883] Re: PAT NAUGHTIN

2011-07-19 Thread Remek Kocz
So sorry to hear about Pat's death. He was a great advocate for the metric system and we will miss him greatly. Like some of you here, I did have a chance to meet Pat a few years back. He gave a talk at The University of Toronto, and I chatted with him afterwards. His energy and his enthusiasm

[USMA:50885] Almost metric recipe....

2011-07-19 Thread Remek Kocz
CNN website, Eatocracy, doesn't shy away from the metric equivalents in this creme brulee recipe: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/07/14/cracked-a-creme-brulee-tutorial/?hpt=ea_c1 It's nice to see the use of grams on occasions in US-based recipe sites. Remek

[USMA:50888] RE: Almost metric recipe....

2011-07-19 Thread Remek Kocz
A few decades ago, metric would have been sanitized out of any recipe like that. Wouldn't have mattered if it's about a signature French dessert. I think it's a sign among a few others, that metric is becoming more acceptable to Americans even in the daily activities such as cooking. One other s

[USMA:50896] The death of the half-liter bottle.

2011-07-21 Thread Remek Kocz
Stopped by Walmart today and in one of the isles there was a stack of water bottles. They were Sam's brand 24 packs boldly proclaiming that the whole pack has 74 oz more water than the "regular size." They were of course the 20 oz bottles. If this doesn't spell the death of the 0.5 L bottle, I d

[USMA:50907] Re: Ditch the viss, govt urges traders

2011-07-24 Thread Remek Kocz
Whoops, looks like the membership in the non-metric club is shrinking. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Kilopascal wrote: > ** > Burma moves to adopt the kilogram as the basic unit for commodities trade. > > http://www.mmtimes.com/2011/business/584/biz58401.html > > Ditch the viss, govt urge

[USMA:50908] Re: Apollo 11 - 20 July 1969

2011-07-24 Thread Remek Kocz
I always wondered if aircraft mechanics across the world had a dual set of tools to accommodate the US-made planes. I guess just as much as the feet and miles were forced on the world, so were the USC fasteners. Too bad. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Kilopascal wrote: > ** > I believe tha

[USMA:50970] Re: Older movies get it right (somewhat)

2011-08-15 Thread Remek Kocz
Hehe, at this stage of my training, I really get that 40 mg Ativan mistake. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Paul Trusten wrote: > ** > Howard et al., I fear that the movie makers use the metric system, not > to support metrication, but rather to play into the prejudices of the > American audien

[USMA:51054] City of Chicago website.

2011-09-01 Thread Remek Kocz
I remember being pleasantly surprised when visiting Chicago a couple of years ago when a guide on our river tour consistently followed up building heights in feet with heights in meters. But this official city of Chicago webpage is even more surprising: http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/about.

[USMA:51067] Re: Car talk

2011-09-04 Thread Remek Kocz
But the discussion is encouraging--most people seem to be in favor of metric. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Michael Payne wrote: > > http://community.cartalk.com/discussion/2279192/is-the-whole-world-metric/p1 > > Still lots of confusion out there! > > Mike Payne >

[USMA:51098] Re: Question about metric highway requirements

2011-09-07 Thread Remek Kocz
Bruce, The font on my browser barely makes that naked decimal visible. Another case for placing a zero before the decimal. For a minute it looked like 6.4 billion SI users vs 3 billion US users. "There are 6.4 billion SI users vs .3 billion American Imperial users." Nice instructible, BTW. O

[USMA:51307] Re: 2012 AP Stylebook Suggestion Form Now Open

2011-11-08 Thread Remek Kocz
Great 2 paragraphs. But in your third, you're muddying the message we're trying to get out to AP. Let's get them to use the unit symbols correctly first instead of worrying about using megameters instead of kilometers. Not even in fully metric countries are megameters used, and asking any US ent

[USMA:51308] ...and here's how not to do it.

2011-11-08 Thread Remek Kocz
Among mountain climbers, The Eight-Thousanders are the 14 mountain peaks above 8000 meters. Peakbagger.com purports to serve the climber community, and here is how they deal with The Eight-Thousanders: http://www.peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=200 Definitely not the way to go about it. Oddly enou

[USMA:51314] Re: Peakbaggers - Here's how to do it.

2011-11-10 Thread Remek Kocz
Thanks Mike, just checked, and they have indeed fixed it. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Michael GLASS wrote: > Dear all, > > I wrote to Peakbaggers and pointed out the anomaly in defaulting to feet. > I'm pleased to report that I received an email saying that the problem of > two web pages def

[USMA:51332] Time magazine shows how to do it the right way.

2011-11-19 Thread Remek Kocz
Pick up the November 28th issue of Time Magazine, open at page 58 and continue through 82. Watch your jaw drop as you turn the pages. This is the invention issue, and this year, Time decided to spotlight the hot inventions based on their size. Every single one in metric, starting from nanometers

[USMA:51397] New York Times: Dining & Wine section.

2012-01-06 Thread Remek Kocz
Has anyone noticed that the NYT's Dining & Wine section on Wednesdays actually carries some recipes that use grams? I'm not a regular reader, but I glanced at this week's section and this was the second time that I noticed this. It seems that baking-related recipes get this treatment. I also re

[USMA:51399] Re: New York Times: Dining & Wine section.

2012-01-07 Thread Remek Kocz
e recipes and none I saw were in metric at all. Can > you provide a couple of links? > > Thanks > > > > [USMA:51397] New York Times: Dining & Wine section. > > Remek Kocz > Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:21:17 -0800 > > Has anyone noticed that the NYT's Dinin

[USMA:51563] James Cameron making news with the Mariana Trench dive.

2012-03-25 Thread Remek Kocz
James Cameron is diving to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, which is making the current headlines. AP of course bungles it in their usual way, and then some. Attempting to relate miles to feet to miles doesn't quite work: http://www.freep.com/article/20120325/ENT/120325017/Cameron-dive-deepest-

[USMA:51565] Re: Anyone try to build a house in metric?

2012-03-25 Thread Remek Kocz
I've gotten my dual system 8 m/26' (labeled in that order) Stanley tape from Home Depot a few years ago. I think they still sell them. Sturdy yellow-black plastic case. Remek On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 14:52:28 Michael Payne wrote: > > I

[USMA:51564] Re: Anyone try to build a house in metric?

2012-03-25 Thread Remek Kocz
Might as well have been my Dad. He's a retired contractor, and he often complained about having to use inches. :) On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael Payne wrote: > I had a contractor who was from Poland, he was ecstatic when I told him I > preferred metric because he did as well, he was f

[USMA:51567] Re: James Cameron making news with the Mariana Trench dive.

2012-03-26 Thread Remek Kocz
he report is metric with imperial in parentheses after, but > look at the video – all metric. > > John F-L > > *From:* Remek Kocz > *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2012 3:16 AM > *To:* U.S. Metric Association > *Subject:* [USMA:51563] James Cameron making news with the Mariana Trench

[USMA:51569] Re: James Cameron making news with the Mariana Trench dive.

2012-03-26 Thread Remek Kocz
n the report is metric with imperial in parentheses after, but > look at the video – all metric. > > John F-L > > *From:* Remek Kocz > *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2012 3:16 AM > *To:* U.S. Metric Association > *Subject:* [USMA:51563] James Cameron making news with the Mar

[USMA:51874] Re: NYTimes: Rustic Fruit Tarts

2012-09-04 Thread Remek Kocz
This has been a bit of a trend for at least a year now. This is reflected in some baking-related websites that are US-based. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Michael Payne wrote: > Noticed a couple of recipes in the NYT lately that have metric units, > grams in this case as well as cups. > > Begi

[USMA:51945] Re: The Metric Football Game | The Metric Maven

2012-10-11 Thread Remek Kocz
The sad part is, that the NFL is attempting to export the game to Europe, at least, in yards only. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Kilopascal wrote: > ** > I wonder how many people realize that there actually was a metric American > Football game in 1977. > > http://themetricmaven.com/?p=837 >

[USMA:51952] Re: The Metric Football Game | The Metric Maven

2012-10-15 Thread Remek Kocz
ee NFL Europa fold. Keep yards out of Europe and the world. > > > [USMA:51946] Re: The Metric Football Game | The Metric Maven > > sunhelen > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:00:53 -0700 > > Luckily, they are having little success. > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 19:39, Remek Kocz

[USMA:52131] Metric T-Shirt

2013-01-09 Thread Remek Kocz
Humorous metric t-shirt at Bad Idea T-Shirts: http://www.badideatshirts.com/FIND-X-T-SHIRTWHITE-INK-P765.aspx Remek

[USMA:52166] Re: Mendenhalling a pint of beer

2013-01-13 Thread Remek Kocz
How about just redefining the British pint as 600 mL?

[USMA:52180] Re: Texas petition

2013-01-15 Thread Remek Kocz
I dunno. Maybe as part of secession, Texas would have adopted the metric system :) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Paul Trusten wrote: > The White House just rejected a "We The People" Texas secession petition, > responding to the 25,000 action threshold. > > Good--so I can still enjoy •US*

[USMA:52221] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36

2013-01-22 Thread Remek Kocz
Something like 18-20 years ago, I remember reading a Detroit News article about several southern states attempting to do something similar, but as a group. The article highlighted the fact that their plan was to metricate the roads & fuel, although the overall tone seemed to imply that there was m

[USMA:52308] Metric Petition mentioned in this week's Time magazine.

2013-02-03 Thread Remek Kocz
This news falls most likely into the "bad news" category, but our metric system petition to the White House made the Time magazine. I'm looking at the print edition right now and it is listed in a ticker at the foot of the page among other petitions, most of which fall shy of being ridiculous. I

[USMA:52310] Re: Metric Petition mentioned in this week\'s Time magazine.

2013-02-03 Thread Remek Kocz
gt; > > [USMA:52308] Metric Petition mentioned in this week's Time > magazine.<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=usma@colostate.edu&q=subject:%22%5BUSMA%3A52308%5D+Metric+Petition+mentioned+in+this+week%27s+Time+magazine.%22> > > Remek > Kocz<http://www.mail

[USMA:34020] Re: Mandatory Metre RE: Re: Spelling of metre

2005-08-23 Thread Remek Kocz
> The problem can be reduced to ZERO tollerence if CGPM & CCDM (SI-comittee on > Metre) made the use of *spellings for Length Unit, METRE* mandatory wherever > length is required to be mentioned by ALL NATIONS. Sorry, but all nations don't use English as their native language. The standardization

[USMA:34026] Re: Mandatory Metre RE: Re: Spelling of metre

2005-08-23 Thread Remek Kocz
> Maybe. But the FPLA and UPLR are very specific on what is permitted and > what is not: g is permitted for gram; gm, gms, gr, etc are not. > I've seen it on US packaging in all varieties you can imagine. Yes, g is the norm, but I've seen gm plenty of times. One of the biggest "sins" is the pl

[USMA:34027] Re: Specification of paper

2005-08-23 Thread Remek Kocz
Bravo Pat! I have to say, that I really applaud your untiring efforts to promote the metric system and its _proper_ usage. I suppose that in the overwhelmingly metric Australia, the challenge is a little bit easier than here in the US, where things are just the opposite. I suppose though, that o

[USMA:34028] How widespread is the usage of the mil?

2005-08-23 Thread Remek Kocz
During one of his many segues into topics other than the book we were covering, my 8th grade English teacher introduced our class to the concept of the 'mil,' which he said was also known as the 'milli-inch.' I nearly burst out laughing at the time, realizing full well that this was some ridiculou

[USMA:34042] Re: Mandatory Metre RE: Re: Spelling of metre

2005-08-24 Thread Remek Kocz
On 8/24/05, Howard Ressel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Enforcement? How do you suggest that be done espcialy by a body taht > writes the Standards. Perhaps a better approache is more education. > > Howard Ressel > Project Design Engineer, Region 4 > (585) 272-3372 What I had in mind was enforcem

[USMA:34205] RE: I have yet hear a kilometer song

2005-08-31 Thread Remek Kocz
>From "Beds are Burning" by Midnight Oil: "The Western Desert lives and breathes at forty-five degrees." It's no kilometers, but it's probably one of the very few metric references in an English-language song. I can see grams, meters, or liters being practical for songs, but any prefixed units a

[USMA:34206] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future

2005-08-31 Thread Remek Kocz
Depending on how large the supplier is, you could actually pull this off.  A little moxy can go a long way, and an individual can have a wide-ranging impact on the units that the whole industry will use.  Pat Naughtin presented an excellent example of this with the piano string maker labeling his p

[USMA:34313] Re: Metric drink cans

2005-09-07 Thread Remek Kocz
I wonder about this myself.  I see a bit of wiggle room in the conversion (23.5oz=695mL or 700mL=23.7oz), so maybe their 8.3oz (245mL) drinks are really 250mL, and their 42oz (1.24L) Total Trim punch is really 1.25L.   The first two, at least, could be considered fairly oddball sizes for USC.  The

[USMA:34367] Re: Ways to Metricate (was Re: Re: Nibbled toDeath by Ducks)

2005-09-08 Thread Remek Kocz
Precisely.  Such calculations are trivial with metric.  Your post reminds me of the time I was toying around with siphoning the accumulated rainwater off of our pool cover.  It was hot and the family wanted to swim, so I had to find a quick way of removing the water.  Having quickly estimated the v

[USMA:34371] Am I talking to the wrong people?

2005-09-08 Thread Remek Kocz
Shortly before joining this group, I started asking my friends and coworkers about their opinion on the possibility of the US metricating.  Simply, I asked "How would you feel if tomorrow the government decided that we're going metric and there is no turning back?  Would you have a problem with Ame

[USMA:34391] First milli-inch, now decifoot.

2005-09-09 Thread Remek Kocz
While looking around for a measuring tape at the hardware store, I noticed that some tapes have feet subdivided into units of ten.  Every foot on such a measure is marked off in thenths, and labeled in decimals.  If I recall correctly, each tenth is subsequently subdivided into thenths as well, so

[USMA:34392] Re: Post and Courier (Charleston, SC)

2005-09-09 Thread Remek Kocz
As riddled with errors as this article is, I do appreciate that another journalist is presenting SI as a rational, coherent, and an easy-to-use measurement system.   I'm also glad to see that financial consequences of _not_ adopting the metric system have been brought up.  It's an argument that th

[USMA:34449] Re: metricating the U.S. Postal Service

2005-09-14 Thread Remek Kocz
Yes, the US customs sticker asks for weight in pounds and ounces.  The Post Office fills this thing out.  I always felt embarrased sending packages abroad with this particular sticker on them.On 9/14/05, David King <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:The UK's Royal Mail has used metric exclusively for many

[USMA:34455] RE: Fwd: National Metric Week

2005-09-14 Thread Remek Kocz
Poll's results will always depend on what kind of questions are asked.  If you could tie in SI to job creation, trade deficit reduction, higher worker efficiency, etc. and formulate the poll questions to this effect, you could kill two birds with one stone--present metric as an advantage and find o

[USMA:34503] Re: Long live the good old British pint!

2005-09-17 Thread Remek Kocz
There are 10ths markers on I-90, at least in NY state.  Same goes for I-81 in NY and Pennsylvania.  In PA they're marked off a whole number that is one decimal place larger than the mile number, i.e. mile 215.7 is shown as 2157, etc.  At one of the NY highway greeting centers, I read a nice blurb

[USMA:34558] At the bookstore.

2005-09-19 Thread Remek Kocz
Recent visit to the local bookstore yielded a coulple of pleasant surprises.  The sequel to the classic D.G. Hessayon book, The House Plant Expert , has gone fully metric.  As opposed to its predecessor, The House Plant Expert: Book Two is all centimeters and Celsius.  The book is out of the UK, bu

[USMA:34559] Re: Upgrade to metric

2005-09-19 Thread Remek Kocz
Working in the computer industry myself, I know exactly what you mean.  I also noticed the parallels between an upgrade of an operating system on thousands of workstations and moving the US over to the metric system.  Network administrators don't really have much of a choice when Microsoft releases

[USMA:34674] CNN and the giant squid.

2005-09-28 Thread Remek Kocz
This morning's Headline News segment on the giant squid found by the Japanese was reported (surprisingly) in metric first and followed by USC equivalents.  The lengths of the squid and its tentacles were given in meters, as well as the depth at which it has been found.  Is this unusual for CNN or d

[USMA:34821] Re: Tetley's Ale

2005-10-12 Thread Remek Kocz
Any sightings of the 500 ml cans in the US?  I know that in Canada's LCBO stores quite a bit of the imported beer can be had in this size.  Doesn't seem to be the case in the US, though.On 10/11/05, Philip S Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the UK beer and lager is mostly sold in 440 ml, 500 ml

[USMA:34825] Re: Tetley's Ale

2005-10-12 Thread Remek Kocz
on to the customary sizes.On 10/12/05, Jim Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are numerous 500 mL cans of beer sold in the USA. Unfortunately, I have seen some of them labeled 16.9 oz, without even a metric equivalent. Not all of them by any means, but a few. Jim At 12 10 05, 08:03 AM,

[USMA:34881] Amending the FPLA

2005-10-15 Thread Remek Kocz
I was reading Ken Butcher's response to the FPLA Amendment question the other day and the following paragraph struck me as interesting: "As you know, I have to work through the system since as a Federal employee I am forbidden from personally contacting or lobbying Congress however, I will continu

[USMA:34911] Re: Picking apart FMIs arguments

2005-10-16 Thread Remek Kocz
Jim, You definitely have a point.  The sheer variety of a single product class can be overwhelming.  And the units in which the size is given are the least that the consumer has to worry about.  Now, how do we get a consumer products manufacturer to realize theycan switch at least some items to

[USMA:34913] Re: Picking apart FMIs arguments

2005-10-16 Thread Remek Kocz
Ezra, This is a fantastic idea.  I would love to help in any way I can.  We have to deal with companies doing business internationally, though, since I don't see we can get anywhere with companies operating solely in the States. RemekOn 10/15/05, Ezra Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jim's

[USMA:34993] Re: Roundtable on Transatlantic Standards Issues: Meeting Notes

2005-10-24 Thread Remek Kocz
Or that it is the only one to ban non-metric labeling.On 10/24/05, Stephen Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:To me the bigger question would be :- "when did the EU become a 'country'?" >From: "Philip S Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "U.S. Metric Association" < usma@col

[USMA:35012] The pitfalls of double conversion.

2005-10-26 Thread Remek Kocz
The BBC website has a neat feature where they post news items from decades past.  Today, the article on the Soviet probe seding back the first pictures of the dark side of the moon.  The article cites imperial dimensions followed by metric ones in parentheses.  From the metric equivalents given, i

[USMA:35025] Re: FMI

2005-10-27 Thread Remek Kocz
Thanks Bill. I'll do the same during the weekend.  I'll have to verify which of FMI's members do business in upstate New York, but it looks like the usual suspects are  on Bill's list: Kmart, Walmart, Walgreen, and Sears. On 10/27/05, Jim Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 26 October 2005, 03

[USMA:35184] Re: Got a Bigger Package 1200g

2005-11-08 Thread Remek Kocz
You can add to this all of the Febreeze products.  The spray bottles come in 500mL and 800mL sizes, and the refill container is 1L.  The metric values are stated first.  P&G makes this product--congratulations are in order. As a side note, I've noticed more and more products in the cleaning and

[USMA:35215] GPS under the covers: metric or not?

2005-11-16 Thread Remek Kocz
Is GPS metric in the background, or is it USC.  I recall only seeing it described in USC terms, but that may be because I only looked at information targeted at US consumer market.

[USMA:35223] Re: BBs

2005-11-17 Thread Remek Kocz
You're talking about airsoft BB's, right?  I've seen them in the 6.0 mm/0.12 g designations at Gander Mountain.  Never saw any USC units, even in parentheses.  However, once I walked over to the shotgun shells, the reality set in, as everything was in inches and (!!) grains.  Some manufacturers did

[USMA:35229] Re: beter homes amnd garden cook book

2005-11-17 Thread Remek Kocz
>From the few cookbooks published for the international English-speaking audience, I noticed the 250 ml cup, and the 500g pound, but nothing like what you've seen with the ounces.  The books I have print dual-unit recipes, but expressly warn the cook to stick either to metric or Imperial measures. 

[USMA:35231] Re: BBs

2005-11-17 Thread Remek Kocz
t was all in English, but all SI.  And I doubt they had too many complaints about it. For what it's worth, a guy whose wife fills her own shells told me that she weighs the loads in grams.  Not grains--I specifically asked. On 11/17/05, Jim Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 17 11 05,

[USMA:35245] Re: better homes and garden cook book

2005-11-19 Thread Remek Kocz
ntainer of ingredients, like a can of beans or tomatoes.  With the above in mind, it would be relatively easy to convert the American cook to metric.  RemekOn 11/18/05, Pat Naughtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 2005-11-18 14.37, Remek Kocz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From the few

[USMA:35257] Re: better homes and garden cook book

2005-11-19 Thread Remek Kocz
d just how easy it is to cook using metric units. These are the core sources of my recipes.  I looked through them carefully after reading your message, thinking I On 11/19/05, Jim Elwell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 19 November 2005, 08:29 AM, Remek Kocz wrote: >I've been exp

[USMA:35311] Re: dual-unit tape measure

2005-12-02 Thread Remek Kocz
Out of a dozen or so tape measures at my local Lowe's, only one was marked off in dual units.  And it was easy to find, too, being labeled 8m/25 feet.  Of course the metric units are on the bottom portion of the tape, so it's quite difficult to conveniently measure in cm or mm.  Good luck in findin

[USMA:35358] RE: Someone who has missed something

2005-12-08 Thread Remek Kocz
Sorry, meant to post it to the group: Give Ireland a generation, and it'll be like Canada, where even the older folks will give you directions in kilometers.  It's just a question of people getting used to the new measurements, that's all.On 12/8/05, Stephen Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:"

[USMA:35359] RE: thinking Celsius outdoors

2005-12-08 Thread Remek Kocz
I've had a chance to watch a few British shows on science geared towards the general public.  Their odd mix of feet, miles, pounds, and degrees Celsius has always given me an impression that centigrade has been most readily adopted in the UK, while the other metric measures are still lagging behind

[USMA:35383] CMS=cubic meters?

2005-12-11 Thread Remek Kocz
Whenever I see the shelves being stocked at Walmart, the shipping boxes are nicely labeled in kilograms (KGS) and in what I assume to be cubic meters (CMS).  A rough estimate of the volume of the boxes seems to confirm this.  Has anyone else encountered the CMS label? Remek

[USMA:35400] RE: CMS=cubic meters?

2005-12-12 Thread Remek Kocz
only And think they have  to put a plural after the symbol –   Just like below.   Illiteracy and innumeracy prevail worldwide.   Carleton   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Remek Kocz Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:57 To: U.S. Metric Associatio

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