Boogie Down 313 - SO-002
Hey all.. just a quick reminder that Southern Outpost's 2nd release, 'Boogie Down 313' is now available in all good record stores in Europe ,England and east coast US (via FORMIC distribution) and available in Detroit at Submerge. Get some straight up Sydney electro into ya system! :) Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost http://www.southernoutpost.com http://www.darkenergy.southernoutpost.com -=D E M A N D I N N O V A T I O N=-
telepathic releases
Hey Fred what is the status of Telepathic ? Is Sonic Groove going to help release some new pieces the guys there (Not Adam or Dietrich) a few weeks ago acted like they didn't know you so I left your # 1 fan in the south
Minimal Nation
I bought a copy of Minimal Nation by Rob Hood on CD about 3 years ago in Ann Arbor Michigan. I think Tresor re-released it just recently. Roger --
Re: [313] Minimal Nation
Nightime World??? was also released on CD through Cheap??? My copy was stolen... : Unhappy now. That was a great disc. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno and new Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Fred Giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [313] Minimal Nation Just confirming a long held suspicion Minimal Nation was never released on CD, was it? Rob Hood is one of the very few producers out there who has such a good full-length that never got a CD issue. Anybody know if Minimal Nation has a CD release slotted? Matt It was released on CD. I bought a copy when I was in Scotland when it was originally released . Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Dj software and Recycle
-Original Message- From: Jorge Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Dj software and Recycle I was on the verge of buying Cubase when I was shown the light that is LOGIC. The manual is scary as hell, but once you watch the thing in action it's something else. Up till now I've used outboard stuff sequenced with an MMT8 a-la-old-school, but I can't wait to get Logic and Reaktor in my Powerbook and try to get the funk a flowin'. If I'm not mistaken, this is the new permutation of the old Cubase vs. Cakewalk argument. I use Cubase and I'm 95% happy with the sequencing abilities it offers. If you ask me, the small manual is a huge drawback. My biggest knock against Steinberg is lack of support in terms of manuals and unanswered emails. Additionally, Cubase doesn't offer a whole lot in the way of precise audio editing functions. As I've used Cubase more to records my original material, beef it up with effects and mix it down I've wanted to do more with the samples. The friendlier solution I've come across from my discussion with Kent Williams (Chaircrusher) is to run Sound Forge for sample editing, then import the wave files back into Cubase or just arrange in Sound Forge. As I understand it Recycle is comparable. Pro Tools is supposed to be the best. However, people were talking about Pro Tools earlier as though it sequenced, and I believe their sequencing product designed to work with Pro Tools is Studio Vision. Both cost an arm and a leg though. All told, for my dollar I am happy with Cubase, but I'm looking for an advanced audio editor. Another thing to consider is to stop by the Cubase and Logic user groups. Both will provide hours worth of horror stories. The fact remains, there is no perfect product still. I can only recommend doing A LOT of research and trying them out if you get the chance. An aside: __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] DEMF
Richard, Minto is right, I just checked out Huck's second part of his set and he does start off with the Daniel Wang track that Minto referred to. I also have an even bigger treat for you. I saw some copies of this hanging out at RecordTime when I was there for the DEMF so if you give Record Time a call and ask for Mike Huckaby and tell him you want the Look Ma No Drum Machine EP -- Yu might just end up with the Track in question in your crate... let him know that Dave sent you ... Dave Renegade Rhythms Quoting Minto Chempotical George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Richard Hart wrote: Secondly - Does anyone know the name of the first track played by Mike Huckaby in the second part of his mix - kinda disco track with female vocals singing can't stop moving to the sound... I have to get this track. http://proto.groovetech.com/mk-demf.rxml?file=/demf/cpop/day3/cpopday3-mi keh uckaby2.rm from your description it sounds like, Like Some Dream (I Can't Stop Dreaming) by Danny Wang off the first Balihu release Look Ma No Drum Machine. minto - Renegade Rhythms email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com Live House and Techno Webcasts every Wed. and Sat. Next Live Real Audio Broadcast: Sat June 10, 2000 2 pm - Sun. 9 am -- -- FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail
DEMF lineup
sorry about this one folks...a friend of mine wanted to know the lineup for DEMF, so i was curious if someone could send me a complete listing of what DJ's and performers were there. please... thanks ahead of time jeff
Re: [313] dj software
mixman is a TOY!! and so is all other so called DJ software. Music can be made with software, but DJ'in? no FUCKIN' way ... christian bloch - mp3.com/bloch On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: i'm looking to get back in the mixeven if only for my own enjoyment. besides mixman, what type of software is out thereand how good is it? peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dj software
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: mixman is a TOY!! and so is all other so called DJ software. Music can be made with software, but DJ'in? no FUCKIN' way This sounds a bit like the Marsalis/Crouch argument that to produce real music, you have to use real acoustic instruments.any music produced electronically is inauthentic, unartistic, and inhuman. That is, for a DJ to really produce art you need two (or more) turntables, RECORDS, and a mixer. But there's a slippery slope here. Hell, back in the day I thought that anything that would modify the pitch FOR you was a cop out. USE YOUR F'ING HANDS!!! Part of the art was figuring out how to blend No Way Back with Nude Photoand I wasn't with some machine that would figure out how to do it FOR me.. But with the CD Mixer this seems to have changed. Which brings up the questionwhat's the difference between a cd mixer and a program that does the same task? peace les
Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated)
even though you use Cubase instead of Acid, you will have to sample the synth lines (if you want it all in the computer anyway) On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Basically, if you just want to do simple MIDI sequencing to outboard gear and toss some waves over it, use whatever is easiest for you. That's exactly what i want to do. I love acid for it's ease of use but have a compendium of vintage synths that I just can't leave in the closet anymore (I have a Kenton midi/cv converter). Plus, I'm getting a new soundcard to run all the .wav files to seperate channels on my Mackie. So far I'm really turned off by what i hear about logic, beacaue all I really want to do is throw my synth lines over the .wav that I'm currently working with in Acid, instead of having to sample them and drop them into the program. Discuss. But if you want serious next-level audio and MIDI wrangling, Logic Audio 4 on a G4 with Hyperengine and a bunch of plugins is the hottest thing that exists. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-MEN/BERLIN
... a listing of the tracks that make up the 97-98 vinyl... if you would, please..? THX/LA, J.E. v.F-B. B.
EMP Records: Zorak's Jamboree
Hey there 313 list, I was thinking about making the trip down to Detroit from Guelph, Ontario (near Toronto) and have heard rumours that Saunderson and Atkins are not playing live if at all. It is my understanding that there has been some discussion of these rumours on the list (which I just joined) so I'd be greatful if someone would fill me in on what's been said. Thanks Peace J
Re: [313] dj software
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: Which brings up the questionwhat's the difference between a cd mixer and a program that does the same task? none! (use your technics). and there is no comparison whatsofuckinever to old discussions about real music etc. it just isn't possible to do a decent mix without 12s \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... worth it's salt..?
... is there any reason to own Juan Atkins' peppering of EON's Spice..? Thanks for your thyme, J.E. v.F-B. B.
Re: [313] dj software
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: it just isn't possible to do a decent mix without 12s PERIOD! \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF lineup
If you go to http://www.groovetech.com you can get this information from the archives. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno and new Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 8:41 PM Subject: [313] DEMF lineup sorry about this one folks...a friend of mine wanted to know the lineup for DEMF, so i was curious if someone could send me a complete listing of what DJ's and performers were there. please... thanks ahead of time jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated)
Acid is a toyCubase IS better (vst 2) the MPC is hella cool (tits) but i like the pc (though the Atari WAS moretight) ..christian bloch - mp3.com/bloch ..ive always been told that acid is *not* a sequencer but a multitracker..although im not sure how they are distinguished into these categories most people dont bother with acid for sequencing..anyone know? also..any hyperprism plugin users out there- if so id be up for some trades!! ..peace.. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated)
-Original Message- From: lil' robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated) Acid is a toyCubase IS better (vst 2) the MPC is hella cool (tits) but i like the pc (though the Atari WAS moretight) ...christian bloch - mp3.com/bloch ...ive always been told that acid is *not* a sequencer but a multitracker..although im not sure how they are distinguished into these categories most people dont bother with acid for sequencing..anyone know? It's an arranger. I don't think you can send mido information out. Having added fuel to the fire, I think this discussion should move into a different veue. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno and new Album, Québécois, online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] dj software
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: it just isn't possible to do a decent mix without 12sPERIOD!--- also 12's dont crash or lack ram when you need it!! plus as far as versatility and perfection ..they are only available to poeple with dex..there are too many conversions being made with software whereas turntables act instantly ...plus software navigation is irratating!! Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
tech-house
what are some good tech house artists, and some good recordings? also is any of it on the web? You can start by pointing your web browser to Transit records at www.transitrecords.com/2000/. Here's two releases that are quite tasty --from 1999. MYUNGHO CHOI - Vehicle 12 MYUNGHO CHOI - Passenger 12 Pietro. ___ p i e t r o d a s a c c o a u d i o - n i m b u s c j a m 91.5 fm saturdays from midnight - 2am EST 9745 lynngrove cr, windsor, ontario, n8r 1b8, canada g r o o v e s m a g a z i n e www.groovesmag.com
Re: [313] dj software
whether mp3 mixing is good or bad, I dont really care, but it is fun... I definately recommend http://www.carrotinnovations.com its got all the features and you can do it with 1 sound card and still have a headphone preview if you have a stereo splitter... Christian you'll be disgusted to know i've enjoyed mixing your tracks as mp3s on many an occasion :) ScottV. http://www.mp3.com/ScottVallance
Re: (313) DETROT ALLSTARS
Chloe, This is my first post to one of the best lists I have been on for a while! I'm from Sydney Aust, and this weekend is the DETROIT ALLSTARS featuring Carl Craig and Claude Young plus a host of Sydney talent. I'll let you know the verdict... Yeah it's a great list and that party should be sweet! Not only Carl Craig and cohorts playing live as PaperClip People but Biftek live too and then Claude Young DJ'ing with a host of good local DJ's to.. I can't wait to hear Patrick HAF V's James Bond as well. When Juan Atkins played the same venue over Easter.. Patrick and James Bond had some damn nice music going down... Kraftwerk, Dopplereffekt, Donna Summer and some DJ Assault to name but a few of artists tunes I recognised and never thought i'd get to hear let alone dance to on a big sound system at a nightclub. Should be a good night.. see you there!! Cheers, John Aural Industries Pty Ltd http://www.aural-industries.com.au
Re: [313] Re: (313) DETROT ALLSTARS
John, Chloe, Claude Young DJ'ing with a host of good local DJ's to.. I can't wait to hear Patrick HAF V's James Bond as well. Patrick is unfortunately playing at 10pm-11pm and James is playing at 6am-7am with Biz E and Deluxe (Alex Dimitriadis no less). This is such a disappointment since Patrick and James rocked it so well last time. There will also be a couple of other 313er's as well besides me. Emma Groube and Ben D Glazer (DJ Royal) will be kickin' it large there as well. out. dave. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: (313) DETROT ALLSTARS
David, Yeah I know Deluxe is Alex Dimitriades.. seems like competent DJ. I thought the 6 til 7am slot was Billed in 3D World as Patrick, James and Deluxe? Ah man now i'm disappointed, but still should be good!! Yeah I was talking to Ben about him going to it last week via email. I don't know what i'll be wearing yet so if anyone wants to hook-up for a Sydney 313 mini-get-together tell me what you'll be wearing or maybe we should organise something a little better. The Detroiters + the Dutchmen + other 313 list members always manage to do it so well when something big happens in Detroit, so let's show the 313 list Sydney can do it just as well.. hell knows the lineup is INCREDIBLE, so we'll at least have something to report back to the list. Cheers, Aural Industries Pty Ltd http://www.aural-industries.com.au Claude Young DJ'ing with a host of good local DJ's to.. I can't wait to hear Patrick HAF V's James Bond as well. Patrick is unfortunately playing at 10pm-11pm and James is playing at 6am-7am with Biz E and Deluxe (Alex Dimitriadis no less). This is such a disappointment since Patrick and James rocked it so well last time. There will also be a couple of other 313er's as well besides me. Emma Groube and Ben D Glazer (DJ Royal) will be kickin' it large there as well. out. dave.
We talk about records here...we talk about gear elsewhere
hello, I would like to comment about the current off topic-ness of a lot of the 313 posts lately. Gear is cool, and it definitely was an obsession of mine for a few years, but it is off-topic on this list. If you feel the overwhelming need to talk about Roland or Sonic Foundry, that is cool, but you should do it on other lists. I know that I am not the only person on this list that has paid dues in AH, DH, RMMS, RMMM, Synthzone, Sonicstate, Harmony Central...and when I want gear information, I will go to those sources. When I want to hear about what is going on in Detroit these days, or want to know about an obscure pre-UR Mike Banks record or details about what Damon Booker did after retroactive records, that's when I come to 313. I do not mean to be a jerk about it, but it is better discussed elsewhere among more knowledgeable people who are interested in the subject. One of you guys should go to eGroups.com and start a detroit techno gear list, or something to that extent. It will take 5 minutes, and it will save a lot of OT traffic on this list. If somebody would make the list, I would join, personally. It's something to think about... take care, mt
Re: [313] We talk about records here...313 gear mailing list.
Hello, I took my own advice, and started a gear mailing list dedicated to Detroit related electronic music. IF you would be interested in joining, click on this link: http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear It is fun, it is easy, and if you want to talk about Rich Hawtin with a devilfish 303, or Dan Bell running up and down Gratiot Ave. with a fully loaded RZ-1, you can do that cuz it will be 100% on topic. If you want to talk about Lawrence Burden sweating behind a W-30 during a Octave One live set, you can do that too, it is all good. On what other list can you learn fun facts like the main board played during the Tikiman/CR DEMF set was a Prophet 5. You feel me dog??? mt Intermodal wrote: hello, I would like to comment about the current off topic-ness of a lot of the 313 posts lately. Gear is cool, and it definitely was an obsession of mine for a few years, but it is off-topic on this list. If you feel the overwhelming need to talk about Roland or Sonic Foundry, that is cool, but you should do it on other lists. I know that I am not the only person on this list that has paid dues in AH, DH, RMMS, RMMM, Synthzone, Sonicstate, Harmony Central...and when I want gear information, I will go to those sources. When I want to hear about what is going on in Detroit these days, or want to know about an obscure pre-UR Mike Banks record or details about what Damon Booker did after retroactive records, that's when I come to 313. I do not mean to be a jerk about it, but it is better discussed elsewhere among more knowledgeable people who are interested in the subject. One of you guys should go to eGroups.com and start a detroit techno gear list, or something to that extent. It will take 5 minutes, and it will save a lot of OT traffic on this list. If somebody would make the list, I would join, personally. It's something to think about... take care, mt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homes.arealcity.com/Intermodal/index.html http://www.mp3.com/TheMSProject I am often rich...not in money...but because I have found in my work something which I can devote myself to heart and soul, and which inspires me and give a meaning to life. Van Gogh
Re: [313] software and Recycle
Even though I dont like Cubase VST I would like to point out that Cubase VST does support REX files so you can edit your audio AIFF or WAV files in Recycle and import them as REX files. The cool thing is audio loops saved as REX files will atomaticaly sync with Cubase. The bigest problem I have with software sequencers like Cubase VST is you get timming inacuracies when overdubing audio from a sound card. Digi 001 with ProTools LE may be a better option if you have a G4 Mac although you can only use audio suite and no outsider plug ins.
Re: [313] dj software
In a message dated 09/06/00 03:24:10 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mixman is a TOY!! and so is all other so called DJ software. Music can be made with software, but DJ'in? no FUCKIN' way hehe, mixman is a crap toy at that, it isent even any fun (in my opinion anyway), which is what toys should be. As for PC's and mixing tunes tough, obviously computers can be used to some extent, as many of the so called DJ mixes that you buy on CD these days are actually done on computers, without vinyl ever coming into the equation. Before I get slated, this isent the case with any of the CD's people on this list would buy, but if you were to go out and buy the latest Jeremy Healy - Ibiza 2000 mix CD, or perhaps Eurotrance 2000 in the mix, etc, etc, odds are it was done by some guy in a studio, on a computer, with not a deck in sight. It might not be the proper way of doing things, but you cant deny that it happens alot and is only getting more popular. As I said, I have a program that claims to mix MP3's in a similar fasion to a CD mixer. If only I had another sound card so I could try it out! Aaron
Re: [313] dj software
In a message dated 09/06/00 03:29:59 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why don't you download beos for free? http://free.beos.com then get soundplay which plays a dozen mps at the same time if you want, plays them backwards if you want, speed +-400%. demo is fully functional with a nag until you register it (~$10). works with just one sound card. http://www.bebits.com/app/156 it even streams audio, so all you realplayer fans can join the mp3 revolution and get some quality audio for a change. :) Sounds interesting, maybe I'll have a look. Truth be told though, while it might be cool and all, I would still feel a bit blasphemous doing it all on a computer. I mean, no decks? Its just not right, know what I mean? However, the streaming of mp3 is certainly interesting. Problem is, streaming or no, an entire DJ set, and I'm talking about real ones here by the way, not MP3 tracks mixed on a computer, is still way to big in terms of file size when you use MP3. With Real audio, I reckon what you lose in quality you gain in the fact that the file size is actually reasonable. I suppose what I really need is a cable connection or something, and then it would be irrelevant... Aaron
Thanks Detroit!!!!!!!
Sorry for this late message, but I have been sooo busy and tired I didn't manage to do it earlier. A big thanks to everybody who helped and accompanied me and my girlfriend Annick when we were in Detroit. A special thanks to Kelli Kavanaugh for picking us up at the airport and her kindness and hospitality. An even bigger thanks to her sister Kati, Rodney and Jay for having us over for the days we were in Detroit. That was so kind, but you know you can expect the same treatment when you get to Belgium! By the way, happy birthday girls A big thanks to John Sokolowski and Karie for being our guide in Detroit and driving us around the whole place and of course for taking us to dinner. Njammie, that Mexican food was pretty good! Thanks to Rodney for taking us to Submerge and driving us around and esp. letting us in in the middle of the night. Thanks to Natan for driving us around and for his dry humor. Thanks to the Dutch guys (Hans, Otto, Pieter, Klaas-Jan) for their friendship and expertise and simply a good time. Thanks Steven Lammers for offering to drive us around on Tuesday and Wednesday. We managed fine Steve, didn't wanna bother you. Thanks anyway. Thanks to everybody at Forans and The Butchers Inn for their kindness and helpfulness. Thanks to Alan Oldham for inviting us to his place. Sorry it didn't work out Alan. Maybe next year. Thanks for returning the interview so quickly and elaborate. Never has an artist been so fast and extensive, even an intro! Alan you're the man! Respect! Thanks to Dan Bell for agreeing on an interview a couple of hours before he left for Berlin. Thanks to all the other 313-members we've met. It was great meeting you all and we had a great time! Hope to see all of you and more of the members next year! Thanks to Linda G at Science for throwing a free party for the list! Thanks to Gamall at Backspin Promotions, Tamara at 430West and Jonnie O at Motor for having us as guests at their events and for all the help. Thanks to Mike B, Cornelius, Rolando, Digital and everybody at Submerge for their kindness and for the breakfast on Mondaymorning. Thanks to all the people I may have forgotten (still extremely tired so...) Thanks to Detroit as a whole, you will always be in our hearts!! John Osselaer Annick Deklerck (technotourists Belgium) P.S. Also a huge thanks to Dennis Donohue and Magdalena for having us over when we were in Chicago, for driving us around and for taking us to dinner several times. You have a royal treatment coming to you when you are in Belgium!
Re: [313] dj software
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Scott Vallance wrote: Christian you'll be disgusted to know i've enjoyed mixing your tracks as mp3s on many an occasion :) ScottV. http://www.mp3.com/ScottVallance no, go ahead and enjoy yourself. i think the mp3 mixers out there are funny toys too, but that's what they are (and i've even got 2 sound cards). there are many advantages to mp3s (get your music spread without having to get a record deal etc.(fight the majors (UR);-)) but it will never be a serious format (and cds will never be a serious dj tool either, though i do play my unreleased tracks from cds some times) love YOUR tracks by the way ;-) \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] tresor/LL/simple muzik/junk food
Re: [313] dj software
i'm not upset in any way, i'm just pointing out which is serious and which is toys ;) go ahead and enjoy yourself with all the mp3 players, just don't expect them to ever replace the technics. AND good technology is good, bad technology is bad ;) for instance, it is bad that DATs never caught on and that MDs are such a succes. christian bloch tresor/simple muzik/LL/funque dropping/junk food On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote: i feel you are upset because you work to make a good mix while other djs will cheat and use computer software to do the same i dont think you should let it get to you so badly anyways technology is a good thing right? so just do what you want and forget the others dustin On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:48:46 +0200 (MET DST) Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: it just isn't possible to do a decent mix without 12s PERIOD! \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LifeLike
On the Axis website it says that Lifelike is AX-21. I always thought that this one came out on Music Man in stead. Can anyone confirm that Lifelike is also an Axis release? That it came out on both labels? Thanx W
RE: [313] LifeLike
Lifelike was released on both. Although I live in the city of Ghent, homebase of Music Man , I bought the release on Axis during my stay in Detroit. Groetjes/greetings, John -Original Message- From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] LifeLike On the Axis website it says that Lifelike is AX-21. I always thought that this one came out on Music Man in stead. Can anyone confirm that Lifelike is also an Axis release? That it came out on both labels? Thanx W - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] lots of entries for list t-shirt
the entry 2 by Lance and the entry 10 by Mephist are very cool! --- Eric Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: entries keep pouring in, more and more as the june 11 deadline looms closer. there are so many, and i am so busy that i may not get all the latest ones up today. as usual, you can see them at http://objektsynth.com/313/ --eric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated)
Bloch, He is trying to have midi sequences on seperate tracks along side wav filesHe could do what you're saying cubase does in ACID(which is not a toy---it's an audio program for making music...) If he samples them they become wav, or another signal- not MIDI. So, why should he get cubase to do what he already does. Or can he take the audio loops he creates in sonic foundry and throw them up in a linear fashion in Cubase---and the run midi sequences with them--I'm confused. I THINK HE NEEDS PRO-TOOLS OR LOGIC... From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:29:01 +0200 (MET DST) even though you use Cubase instead of Acid, you will have to sample the synth lines (if you want it all in the computer anyway) On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Basically, if you just want to do simple MIDI sequencing to outboard gear and toss some waves over it, use whatever is easiest for you. That's exactly what i want to do. I love acid for it's ease of use but have a compendium of vintage synths that I just can't leave in the closet anymore (I have a Kenton midi/cv converter). Plus, I'm getting a new soundcard to run all the .wav files to seperate channels on my Mackie. So far I'm really turned off by what i hear about logic, beacaue all I really want to do is throw my synth lines over the .wav that I'm currently working with in Acid, instead of having to sample them and drop them into the program. Discuss. But if you want serious next-level audio and MIDI wrangling, Logic Audio 4 on a G4 with Hyperengine and a bunch of plugins is the hottest thing that exists. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
re:(OT) Software question (revised and updated)
'lo all, I recently switched from using opcode studio vision pro (the red-headed step child of sequencing software,) to Digital performer 2.7. I would take a serious look at performer (http://www.motu.com.) It has a very nice interface, very advanced midi functionality, loads of plugins (plus plugins that allow vst compatability,) rewire support, and very advanced digital audio support. My fav feature so far (i've only had it for four days,) is the visual wave stretching feature. If you need to stretch out a wave, no more menus, just click drag- very nice. FWIW, i spent about 4 or 5 months researching which one i was gonna buy. just my 313 cents, out jim
Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated)
what i tried to say was: he can do midi sequencing in cubase, but afterwards he will have to sample the lines to wav and put them into cubase or acid or what ever.. basically use cubase as a midi sequencer. i think another cool thing about cubase is that you can rewire rebirth directly into cubase... (the thing about acid being a toy was all about it working with audio loops, which is not exactly my cup of tea) christian bloch On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, pooper scooper wrote: Bloch, He is trying to have midi sequences on seperate tracks along side wav filesHe could do what you're saying cubase does in ACID(which is not a toy---it's an audio program for making music...) If he samples them they become wav, or another signal- not MIDI. So, why should he get cubase to do what he already does. Or can he take the audio loops he creates in sonic foundry and throw them up in a linear fashion in Cubase---and the run midi sequences with them--I'm confused. I THINK HE NEEDS PRO-TOOLS OR LOGIC... From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] (OT) Software question (revised and updated) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:29:01 +0200 (MET DST) even though you use Cubase instead of Acid, you will have to sample the synth lines (if you want it all in the computer anyway) On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Basically, if you just want to do simple MIDI sequencing to outboard gear and toss some waves over it, use whatever is easiest for you. That's exactly what i want to do. I love acid for it's ease of use but have a compendium of vintage synths that I just can't leave in the closet anymore (I have a Kenton midi/cv converter). Plus, I'm getting a new soundcard to run all the .wav files to seperate channels on my Mackie. So far I'm really turned off by what i hear about logic, beacaue all I really want to do is throw my synth lines over the .wav that I'm currently working with in Acid, instead of having to sample them and drop them into the program. Discuss. But if you want serious next-level audio and MIDI wrangling, Logic Audio 4 on a G4 with Hyperengine and a bunch of plugins is the hottest thing that exists. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Punisher
Greetings felines, ...do you know what's up with Punisher? Is she still active? Is there some info site about her? Where can she be booked? thanks, aLPiNa -- * MURANYI Andras - senior web-designer * * ROMbrandt Multimedia * http://www.miwo.hu/ * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *
Re: [313] LifeLike
I've got the Lifelike EP on Music Man and I've seen the Axis version in the record shop. The tracks are exactly the same on both releases. The only difference is the name of the tune Avenger which is called Black Avenger on the Music Man version. Later, Nick(DJ Pacific:) --- Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the Axis website it says that Lifelike is AX-21. I always thought that this one came out on Music Man in stead. Can anyone confirm that Lifelike is also an Axis release? That it came out on both labels? Thanx W - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
More pictures please! More!!
I have been off the list until I came back from Chicago and started working again (Monday). I was wondering what I have missed? Probably lots of comments on the festival. I was also wondering if more people have put pictures online or are planning to do so? I'll probably have mine by Tuesday. It will take me a couple of days to get some of them scanned because I don't have much time in the evening and I'm afraid I have a new deadline coming pretty soon (feat. a Detroitspecial). I'll try to scan as many as possible as quickly as possible and then I'll mail them to Hans Veneman (Technotourist.org) to put on his site since I don't have one myself. (If that's ok with you Hans??) Question remains: are there more pictures? Who wants to start mailing them to interested listmembers? John, technotourist Belgium
track i.d
picked up the new magic kuts record recently [has Chari Vari Spacerwoman on it] - looking for i.d. of the other 2 tracks one track has the following vocal: speeding speeding speeding through the cosmos light years from the earth i'm so glad i'm so sad mystery of space communicate walking through the neon the other track is like a cross between man parrish popcorn, has a 'baby, baby, baby baby, come on, come on, ' refrain going through it any pointers appreciated cheers! simon
Re: [313] Punisher
In a message dated 6/9/2000 8:55:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings felines, ...do you know what's up with Punisher? Is she still active? Is there some info site about her? Where can she be booked? thanks, aLPiNa Yes, she is DJing every weekend and has a new record out! To book her call: PHONE 1-561-792-2141 FAX 1-561-792-2144
Re: [313] Ritchie Hawtin
word. miles
Re: [313] Ritchie Hawtin
like preference in icecream flavours, musical tastes are purely subjective... but for my money hawtin's 'loop' and 'f.u.' are about as funky as techno has ever achieved. if that's steril, then viva la sterility. show me the 'fresh talent' that is putting out tracks of that calibre and i'll gladly purchase their output. james To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Ritchie Hawtin WHEN IS EVERYONE GOING TO REALISE THAT THIS MAN HAS NOT GOT THE FUNK? He's done the odd good track but I'm sure that was just a coincidence! There's plenty of fresh talent out there, why bother with sterile crap?! zip Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [313] tech-house
Last night I popped in one of my favorite trance CD (I know) Psychcotrance I. When it was released it was considered trance at the time. Now, I think it would be considered more tech-house. It certainly doesn't have that cheesy sawtooth synth sound playing nursery school chord progressions. In fact it reminds me of Franky Bones' hosue loops last release which I consider archetypal tech-house. Any thoughts. Miles ---BeginMessage--- what are some good tech house artists, and some good recordings? also is any of it on the web? You can start by pointing your web browser to Transit records at www.transitrecords.com/2000/. Here's two releases that are quite tasty --from 1999. MYUNGHO CHOI - Vehicle 12 MYUNGHO CHOI - Passenger 12 Pietro. ___ p i e t r o d a s a c c o a u d i o - n i m b u s c j a m 91.5 fm saturdays from midnight - 2am EST 9745 lynngrove cr, windsor, ontario, n8r 1b8, canada g r o o v e s m a g a z i n e www.groovesmag.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
TRESOR LINE-UP LOVE PARADE WEEKEND -
I thought this might interest some people on the list. Have a nice weekend everybody, it's 5.54pm here and the weekend is calling... John friday 07 july GLOBUS 23:00-02:00...dave 02:00-05:00...carl cox 05:00-endetom clark TRESOR 23:00-01:00...mad max 01:00-03:00...steve rachmad 03:00-05:00...surgeon 05:00-endemad max saturday 08 july GLOBUS 22:00-01:00...senze 01:00-04:00...blake baxter 04:00-07:00...jay denham (house set) 07:00-endedjoker daan TRESOR 22:00-02:00...dry 02:00-05:00...claude young 05:00-07:00...james ruskin 07:00-endedash OPEN-AIR 24:00-02:00...rok 02:00-03:00...super_collider LIVE PA 03:00-06:00...dj t-1000 06:00-09:00...james pennington sunday 09 july OPEN-AIR 09:00-20:00...sven väth GLOBUS 20:00-23:00...resident dj 23:00-02:00...dan bell 02:00-04:00...claude young (house set) 04:00-08:00...wimpy 08:00-enderesident dj TRESOR 20:00-23:00...eva cazal 23:00-01:00...james pennington 01:00-03:00...jay denham 03:00-enderecyver dogs
Re: [313] lots of entries for list t-shirt
Echoskate's Entry 1 doest it for me! I second that. It's doin' it for me too. Marty --__. .%$~ ~$$.. .%$$' '$$$%. . '$,$ a r t i n D .R o z e e :$$$ .^^. Neurosoft Inc .$$. `$ |. 3A UW Systems Design Eng .$$.%$$.finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] %$%. :: `%%._ ::
Re: [313] TRESOR LINE-UP LOVE PARADE WEEKEND -
DAMN YOU JOHN!!! I was just about over missing the DEMF and now you're throwing this at me you're a cruel man I suppose you're going to this as well aren't you!!? Hm maybe I could move to London next year instead NC (freshly gutted) Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] TRESOR LINE-UP LOVE PARADE WEEKEND - Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:58:08 +0200 I thought this might interest some people on the list. Have a nice weekend everybody, it's 5.54pm here and the weekend is calling... John friday 07 july GLOBUS 23:00-02:00...dave 02:00-05:00...carl cox 05:00-endetom clark TRESOR 23:00-01:00...mad max 01:00-03:00...steve rachmad 03:00-05:00...surgeon 05:00-endemad max saturday 08 july GLOBUS 22:00-01:00...senze 01:00-04:00...blake baxter 04:00-07:00...jay denham (house set) 07:00-endedjoker daan TRESOR 22:00-02:00...dry 02:00-05:00...claude young 05:00-07:00...james ruskin 07:00-endedash OPEN-AIR 24:00-02:00...rok 02:00-03:00...super_collider LIVE PA 03:00-06:00...dj t-1000 06:00-09:00...james pennington sunday 09 july OPEN-AIR 09:00-20:00...sven väth GLOBUS 20:00-23:00...resident dj 23:00-02:00...dan bell 02:00-04:00...claude young (house set) 04:00-08:00...wimpy 08:00-enderesident dj TRESOR 20:00-23:00...eva cazal 23:00-01:00...james pennington 01:00-03:00...jay denham 03:00-enderecyver dogs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
re: tech-house
greets, yeah i have psychotrance vol 2, and from the moment I bought it I never considered it trance. I've had this disc for about 4 years now it still one of my frequent players. Ignor the name, buy the discs! jim
Re: (LOW) LifeLike
for music man in vinyl ax-021 is scratched, mm-066 is on it as well At 9-6-00 +0200 13:15, you wrote: On the Axis website it says that Lifelike is AX-21. I always thought that this one came out on Music Man in stead. Can anyone confirm that Lifelike is also an Axis release? That it came out on both labels? ___ forcefield | mindless entertainment http://www.forcefield.org _ __ ___
Re: EMP Records Jamboree
Thanks for filling me in guys. I had doubts from the beginning but gave EMP and Zorak's Jamboree some consideration because Kevin and Juan were billed as live. Perhaps we'll make the trip out to Montreal for Mutek instead and save our journey into Detroit for a more suitable soiree. lil' robbie - good to hear from you! thanks for coming out to Focus, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. ditto on the security, they were hotheads especially during our first few weeks (they didn't quite understand that our patrons were not like the usual drunken clientele). as for future Halcyon events - we're working on something special, perhaps an intimate free outdoor gathering spanning the usual techno-techhouse-house sounds. i'll keep you informed Peace... J
Overload
Check this. Rumour has it that the Magic Feet people are behind this one. A compact overview of the UR/Sony battle by Nick Craddock here, as well. Wes (gearing up for Thomas Brinkmann tonight, live at Mettle, 129 Peter) On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, ? | ?h?2? wrote: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk finally, a REAL magazine. ;P From: bone alex david [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: bone alex david [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (G-TECH) Re: new Reks/Oliver Ho Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of Oli Ho, there's this interesting interview on this free UK fanzine called Overload...My office mail server is down, so I do not have the URL on top of my head...anyways...he sez smthng like for new wave of producers such as himself, classics like Strings Of Life holds little meaning as he wasn't even into Techno back in those days... I will try to post the URL later, hopefully the online issue carries the interview, there're lots of other interesting things Oli said there as well... The fanzine also carries interviews with Jamie Anderson, The Advent etc. etc. nice work.
kevin saunderson DEMF Track ID's
now that we have all studied the DEMF archives, i have a few Tracks that i am dying to have ID'd from Mr. Saunderson's set. The first comes about 16 minutes in, the second at about 28:30, and the last which i have been trying to ID FOREVER NOW! at about 34:15. thanks in advance. ian
Helsinki bound...
A friend of mine is heading to Helsinki, Finland for a business trip and he's looking for any record stores, clubs, or notable sights he should try and see while he's there. If anyone has any tips that I can pass on to him, it would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to Email privately. Thanks in advance, Tom IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com.
deconstruction. a deeper side of detroit
deconstruction. a deeper side of detroit featuring rotating sounds of: alton miller reggie dokes kelvin larkin d wynn paris stacey pullen wednesday nights @ karma ferndale starting june 14th five dollars all night 21 and over doors @ 9.30pm
new richie hawtin discography
Given all the fertile discussion re: Hawtin lately, I thought I'd take a moment for a shameless plug of the exhaustive Hawtin discography I just launced at www.plastikfan.org. The discog on the m-nus site is pretty good, but it lists only tracks, not where to find them. Plus, it leaves off a lot of stuff, and not just embarrassing stuff. The Lords of Acid remixes are listed, but not the Slam and DBX ones. I have therefore compiled as exhaustive a discography as I could from my own collection. There are three separate pages: artists, tracks and releases, all of which is cross-linked. What I'm looking for, other than to share this with others, is to make it more of a collaborative effort with others - filling in gaps, pointing out errors, etc. Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Minimal Nation
Hmm. My suspicions entirely. I wish somebody would settle this. For my part, I asked after a cd version of this release from Hedonizm records in Brighton, a very well-stocked mail order company, and they told me there was no cd release. Which is a pity if it's true. Ross. - Original Message - From: Stewart Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; Roger John Lesinski Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] Minimal Nation Thats internal emipire not minimal nation - Original Message - From: Roger John Lesinski Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:36 AM Subject: [313] Minimal Nation I bought a copy of Minimal Nation by Rob Hood on CD about 3 years ago in Ann Arbor Michigan. I think Tresor re-released it just recently. Roger
5/9, Detroit, It's On...
After a one-week vacation to dis-lodge our subconscious issues, we've returned for another fine evening of throwing up on ourselves at... Corrections. at Cloud 9 in Hamtramck. 8534 Conant. (313) 923-. directions below. W/Resident DJ Derek Plaslaiko. Starring the usual casts of freaks. Plus one from your dark, secret past. If you're old school enough to remember how DJ Eric Haupt did it to your earhole back in da day, you'll represent tonight at Cloud 9. Haupt will share deck duties with Jen Xerri. Word. Plus there's cheap alcohol. And Bartender Brook Campbell, who likes to show everyone his birthmark that's shaped like Gary Coleman. Directions: Take I-75 to Caniff. East on Caniff to Conant. Past Jos Compau and the MNotor Lounge to Conant. Right on Conant, and go south about a mile (under a railroad bridge). Cloud 9 is on the left. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Way OT! NYC only (FREE rack unit)
Sorry to clutter up the list with this sort of thing but I'm rearranging my apt and no longer have any need for a SKB gig rig rack unit..If you can pick it up in Brooklyn, it's yours... here's a blurb on it from a catalog: Gig Rig This is an amazing new innovation from SKB - 20 spaces of rack mount space in a protected, fold-out, portable environment! Modular recessed hinges and latches allow for access from front, top and rear! Secret latched door in rear for easy rolling out of cables for remote locations. Built-in grill for ventilation. Rugged front and rear wheel assembly for easy transport. Handy side handles. Rack screws included. Comes fully assembled. (it's in perfect condition...and free!) thanks, dan
new- also tune iDs needed -
Hi -I just joined this list- my name's Liam (AKA Recoil) and I spin oldskool hardcore jungle as well as newer db in Toronto where i'm at the university there -i collect everything though, and I'm looking to expand into techno, as new DB isn't doing it for me. anyway, I'm trying to source out a couple tunes- there is a set at this link http://djsets.hyperreal.org/95.html by a guy named Billy Desai - I'm after whatever tune he's playing that comes in around 12:35 or so -also after the tune he's playing around 24:00 or so -I used to dance to techno at parties but I am completely clueless regarding labels, tracks, DJs, stores to look out for, old new -if anybody could give me some insight that would be very cool. If anyone could recommend some good dark, moody techno -I like hard stuff but also really subtle hypnotic stuff that would be great -on the offchance that any of you have an interest in old jungle/hardcore, feel free to e-mail me privately for any knowledge regards Liam Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
