Re: [313] Landscape was Fw: The not so Incredible Warp Party

2000-10-18 Thread e&a rinon

-Original Message-
From: David Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Graham
>Massey from 808 State.  He played a mostly electro set with things like
>Atomic Nation, what sounded like an old Patrick Cowley dub mix and this
>wicked version of Landscape's Einstein a-Go-Go which I'm sure wasn't the
>original!


 you will probably find it was the 12" version of it from 81,it has a
 drumy instrumental intro that simply rox in a very AFX sort of way
,after a couple of min comes that "i can't put you thru to president
Carter" to be followed by the first verse from the regular version,
(which was on the "Tearooms" lp) and then it gets back to that instrumental
thing,classic new wave stuff! (it was also,recently on a chart from the
Ersatz/Adult guy that i think somebody posted here)
that special 12" version is on   RCA T22 pc5331 from uk (1981)
strange how many new wave 12" had totaly diffrent versions to the ones that
,were on the 7" charts,(visage - fade to,yello - bostich,talk
talk etc comes to mind) in fact if disco brought the 12",and reggae
the dub on the b-side,new wave was the music that took those diffrent
12" mixes and put them back on special lp's(humen league - dare/
league unlimited orchestra,soft cell - non stop erotic/non stop ecstatic,
the 2 s/t Visage ones,and much much later on KWT with The mix)



e,r




RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread FRED MCMURRY

I'm really confused about this
We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it 
doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts?


Please


Fred





>  I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but
>  'Jaguar' debuted at
>  number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower
>  than I personally
>  expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why?
>
>  Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had
>  something to do
>  with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went
>  back to Oct
>  9th)
>
>  Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't
>  adequate. For
>  example, it was handled in the UK by a company called
>  Sainted PR, who,
>  whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno
>  activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc.
>  My man Jonas
>  Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years
>  back, and does all
>  the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have
>  thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently
>  Sainted got it as
>  a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up.
>  Mind you, there
>  have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of
>  music mags her,
>  so...
>
>  Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da
>  Bass 'Doom's
>  Night' was also released last week and that has entered the
>  chart at about
>  number 6. The difference is that they have a massive
>  promotional campaign
>  behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with
>  flyposters, just as
>  it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'.
>
>  Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's
>  unlikely ot go much
>  higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these
>  days like they
>  used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards.
>
>  Tom MF
>
>
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Nick Hardie
Oops

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Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England


>
> yeah i agree with the point its the same people who come over here to
play.
>
> 3 times this year voodoo has booked green velvet, now nothing against
> cajmere, but wouldnt it be better to have him on once and have 2 other
> detroit/chicago based dj's on?
>
> its a complete lack of vision on the part of the promoters in my view
>
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Nick Hardie
I just saw Green Velvet dj'ing on Friday night at Voodoo in Liverpool and he
played a blinder. The best set I've heard there this year. Maybe you should
look outside London - England's a big(ish) place after all :-)

Thanks
Nick Hardie
DiscoTech
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Subject: [313] Detroit Techno in England


>
> The Current Amount of detroit/chicago techno dj's being booked to play in
> england is shocking.
>
> its a very sad state of affairs and it needs to be addressed,
>
> apart from stacy pullen at the plus 8 classics night at the end on 4th nov
> and Suburban Knight at lost a couple of months ago the bookings have dried
> up
>
> is the detroit  sound redundant in england now, or can it resurface?
>
>
>
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Fw: {pb-cle} HAUNTED KEGGER 10-21-00

2000-10-18 Thread darw_n
neat little line-up...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com

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Subject: {pb-cle} HAUNTED KEGGER 10-21-00


> OCTOBER 21, 2000 - CLEVELAND, OHIO -
> Double D Titties Presents
> 
> the 4th. annual
> HAUNTED KEGGER
> 
> DJ's
> from chicago
> ANDREI MORANT aka. JACK MACKREL
> (template, planet rhythm u.k., compound)
> 
> from cologne, germany
> TOBIAS THOMAS
> (kompakt koln, studio 626)
> 
> from hamburg, germany
> DJ KOZE
> (germany's hot shot c/o soundgallery)
> 
> local dj's
> optimus
> roboto
> the specialist
> 
> this event will be held @ GRAY'S ARMORY in downtown CLEVELAND
> this party is 21 and over
> 9pm - 6am
> 25 kegs will be served till 2:30 -cash liquor bar also available-
> info: -216- 556-0591
> $20 w/costume more w/o
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[313] chicago upcoming events

2000-10-18 Thread Kyle J Dupuy

> Any Chi-towners aware of any good sets coming to town.  Preferably @ a
> club
> and not @ a rave.(I must admit, though, I caught Sexy Alexi Delano @ a
> rave
> about a year and a half ago-phenominal!)
>
> +v+  

Here:  this was posted to the list a couple weeks back by fred
mcmurry (most of the events have passed, but a few are still applicable).
when in doubt you can always check crobar or circus too.  enjoy :)

kyle




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 Subject: PURE EXRA EXTRA

 Hey PURE People,

 Here are just a couple of reminders and other things we missed in our 
latest newsletter...


 


 Thursday Sept.28.00 at COMMUNITY
 "...COMMUNITY Thursdays are the best bet (at Crobar): Every week is 
stocked with a top-name international
 DJ, from Paul van Dyk and Ken Ishii to Richie Hawtin and Green Velvet." 
? Spin Magazine November 2000

 Thursday Oct.05.00

 PURE presents

 People, Music, Culture.
 COMMUNITY

 There will be a special COMMUNITY 1.0 - John Curley Mix CD release 
party in the Mezzanine hosted by PURE
 and UR Chicago Magazine. Free drinks (10-11:30) and Free CDs. RSVP to 
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 Ears To The East
 Featuring DJs:
 Ken Ishii / Tokyo
 John Curley / PURE Chicago
 DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago
 Bear Who? / PURE Chicago
 Hosted by Devo
 9PM - 4AM
 21 +
 Crobar the nightclub 1543 N. Kingsbury, Chicago, 312.413.7000 
www.crobarnightclub.com
 PURE 2000 cardholders (+1) and guestlist persons get in FREE to 
COMMUNITY all night.

 To get on the guestlist for COMMUNITY either call or e-mail before 7PM 
the day of the event with your
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 Saturday Oct.07.00

 PURE presents

 LIFT
 The Sound of Saturday Night


 Featuring DJs
 Adam Beyer / Drumcode Records, Stockholm Sweden
 Chad Sommer / PURE
 Ernie Vega / 212 Productions, Aurora
 Bear Who? (Upstairs) / PURE

 10PM - 5AM
 21 +
 $15 general admission
 RedNoFive 440 N. Halsted (at Halsted and Hubbard) Chicago 312.733.6699
 PURE 2000 cardholders only get in to LIFT for $5 all night. Guestlist 
persons get in to LIFT for $5
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 PURE DJ NEWS:

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Dragon Room ( 809 w. Evergreen,
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 Thursday Oct.12.00
 Bedrock USA
 Featuring:
 Jimmy Van M / Twilo NYC
 John Curley / PURE Chicago
 DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago
 Bear Who? / PURE Chicago

 Thursday Oct.19.00
 Alice's Wicked Wonderland Tour
 Featuring:
 Green Velvet (LIVE)
 DJ Cajmere (Techno Set) / Chicago
 John Curley / PURE Chicago
 DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago
 Bear Who? / PURE Chicago

 Thursday Oct.26.00
 Plus 8 Classics Tour
 Featuring:
 Richie Hawtin / Windsor
 John Acquaviva/ Balance
 John Curley / PURE Chicago
 DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago
 Bear Who? / PURE Chicago

 

 Upcoming Events at LIFT - October

 Saturday Oct.14.00
 LIFT Featuring DJs:
 Charles Little / PURE
 Chad Sommer / PURE
 Chris Walsh / PURE

 Saturday Oct.21.00
 LIFT Featuring DJs
 John Debo / Axis, Boston
 Chad Sommer / PURE
 Chris Walsh / PURE


 

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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread FRED MCMURRY
I'd be more than happy to shell out $20 - 30 to see some of the Midwest 
talent that never plays in the Midwest(!)


Fred



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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Detroit Techno in England
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:29:44 GMT


The Current Amount of detroit/chicago techno dj's being booked to play in
england is shocking.

its a very sad state of affairs and it needs to be addressed,

apart from stacy pullen at the plus 8 classics night at the end on 4th nov
and Suburban Knight at lost a couple of months ago the bookings have dried
up

is the detroit  sound redundant in england now, or can it resurface?




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[313] Dj Slip - The Machines wil know

2000-10-18 Thread tech komputer
mornin'


what  you  think about kanzleramt [ka43cd] dj slip - the machines will
know who you are//.


  



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Chicago Upcoming events?

2000-10-18 Thread Vladimir Grocic
Any Chi-towners aware of any good sets coming to town.  Preferably @ a club 
and not @ a rave.(I must admit, though, I caught Sexy Alexi Delano @ a rave 
about a year and a half ago-phenominal!)


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CORNWARNING 'web launch'

2000-10-18 Thread Kent williams
No intricate flash animations. Just the facts:

http://jump.to/cornwarning

Cornwarning1 is back from the pressing plant, and will go to the
distributor very shortly. Bomb tracks from Chaircrusher, Perkowitz,
and Chris O.  Danceable, but chinstrokers like it too!

Anyone who can convince me that they can further my career, or that
they've been down with me since day one, drop me a line and I'll send
you a promo.

The rest of y'all it should be in stores in time for Xmas for $6 or $7
cheap. Limited 500 worldwide, and hand stamped by me!

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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Oul Shakur


well looks like i will just have to keep dreaming then doesnt it, maybe one 
day i can get something organised and get these dj's over here myself!



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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread William VanLoo
> now nothing against
> cajmere, but wouldnt it be better to have him on once and have 2 other
> detroit/chicago based dj's on?
> 
> its a complete lack of vision on the part of the promoters in my view

No, it's not a lack of vision, just a difference of vision.

Your vision is for lots of great, innovative Detroit artists to come
over and share their art. The promoters' vision is to make money on
their ventures.

Those two happen to come together sometimes, but it's far from a
guarantee. 

Apologies if I somehow manage to spark that godawful "integrity" or "art
vs. commerce" or "underground vs. commercial" debate again. That's the
last thing I want, to wade through a bazillion messages I've already
read for the last 5 years. Gosh, do I sound bitter?

ob313: Pole, Jan Jenelik, and Burnt Friedman tonight at the Detroit
Contemporary. Aww yeah. I'll be there, hoping the bass clears my sinuses
out (damn fall weather...).


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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Diana Potts



its all 'bout the benjamins.*








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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Oul Shakur


yeah i agree with the point its the same people who come over here to play.

3 times this year voodoo has booked green velvet, now nothing against 
cajmere, but wouldnt it be better to have him on once and have 2 other 
detroit/chicago based dj's on?


its a complete lack of vision on the part of the promoters in my view



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Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Diana Potts

is the detroit  sound redundant in england now, or can it resurface?


well, I think that's something really for people in England to discuss. 
Second hand guesses on that can get assuming.


However, it seems the same lot of ppl go overseas & each time play similar 
sets. It would be nice if Europe started bringing over the "next" crop out 
of Detroit. Recloose is on global tour spirts now, but talented DJs such as 
Magda,Derrick P.,Keith Kemp,Jason Hogans(live),Tony Ollivierra and even 
veterans like Minx etc. Though these DJs play a somewhat "classic Detroit" 
sound, they offer up a possible new & younger twist.


Its important to support the new and old talents in order to insure the 
future of what we have now.



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Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread AeOtaku
For my money, the best thing about Jaguar
is the cover. Looks like No Limit does Detroit.
It's got those letters for Jaguar and everything.
Too bad it doesn't come in a transparent red
case with ads for more UR 12"s in the booklet.

Matt


new delsin release - future beat alliance

2000-10-18 Thread delsin. records
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His newest EP finds it way to the world through the Delsin label, presenting 
four gorgeous tracks, with his typical warm soulful sounds. Cold Feet comes 
with slow breaks, ambient sounds and deep basses. Free Data goes more towards 
jazz, meeting up with Ian O'Brien, Kirk Degiorgio and others. Side b hosts two 
more techno styled tracks, Lo Tech Jazz has a heavy electro styled bass beat 
combined with his soul strings sounds, where Eon Link 500 is a masterpiece 
ambient techno track. Some of the greatest stuff he has delivered yet, showing 
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Detroit Techno in England

2000-10-18 Thread Oul Shakur


The Current Amount of detroit/chicago techno dj's being booked to play in 
england is shocking.


its a very sad state of affairs and it needs to be addressed,

apart from stacy pullen at the plus 8 classics night at the end on 4th nov 
and Suburban Knight at lost a couple of months ago the bookings have dried 
up


is the detroit  sound redundant in england now, or can it resurface?




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USvs.THEM?? (was Re: Jaguar Video)

2000-10-18 Thread fab137
Hi list,
this thread is starting to annoy me..the part concerning us (313'ers)
and them (rest of the world). I don't think we have any right to consider us
some sort of illuminated caste, as being culturally advanced because we
choose to listen to so-called underground music. People are entitled to
listen to whatever they feel, and this choice should'nt categorize as being
poor shallow souls who accept whatever the man throws out to them. I mean,
if most of the mainstream people heard what we were listening to they would
probably say the same thing..there is no VERB to spread to the masses.
To each his own, and if you like cheesy trance it ONLY means we'll never go
clubbing together.

bye
sorry for the rant, but im still in the office and not too happy bout it!
;-)

fab

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Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Playlist 15.10.2K

2000-10-18 Thread Cesium5Hz
Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Playlist 15.10.2K
Presented by A_Zed  

Cali...? - Lynx/ Jan Jelinek rmx (Out To Lunch)
Track 2 - Lowtec (Out To Lunch)
Poiko - Vladislav Delay (Mille Plateaux)
Delc:r - Arovane (Morr Music)
Skim 2 - CiM (DeFocus)
Click - Aphelion (DeFocus)
--   -  --  (Toytronic/ Neurokinetic comp)
Laura - Multicast (Obliq)
How I missed you - Metamatics & Clatterbox (Neo Ouija)
Angelina Jollie call Simon - Aspen (Emanate)
C1 - Jonas Bering (Kompakt)
B3 - Dettinger (Kompakt)
Modulo 8.5 - Various Artists/ Monolake rmx (Fatcat)
Home - Robert Hood (Tresor)
First - CiM (DeFocus)
Psychic Friends Network - Styrofoam (Morr Music)
Mainframe - Phonem (Morr Music)
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Fine Funk

2000-10-18 Thread Vladimir Grocic

Has anyone heard the DJ Tripwire/Mark Ambrose split 12" on Fine Funk?
The M. Ambrose remix of Tripwires' "Song of Kaur"(Creepy Crawly, if my 
memory serves me correctly) has really started to grow on me.  It's one of 
the best progressive tracks I've herd in a few years.  Point being: can 
anyone who's heard this record make rec's on other stuff on Fine Funk(it 
might be their only release to date) or other M. Ambrose stuff that has a 
similar feel(or other artists).


Thanks,
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Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2000-10-18 Thread circonium
Simon Conway wrote:
>anyone know what the story is with the electro list - is it still down?
>ines?

yes, it's still down but we are working 
hard to get it running again (hopefully 
this week or next). 

ines

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Detroit Network

2000-10-18 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Does anyone have any info [ phone, email ] about Detroit Network? I'm trying
to get some tickets for the Sean Deason show here in NYC tomorrow night at
the Frying Pan.

If anyone else is interested, other artists that night include :

Ulysses 8:00 pm 
Sean Deason 9:00 pm 
Hush 10:00 pm 
Detroit Grand Pubahs 10:30 pm 
DJ Rap 12:00 am 
DJ Assault 1:30 am 
Sho' Wood 3:00 am 


--
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Tel : 212.902.2446
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Paging Laura Gavoor

2000-10-18 Thread hans kaufmann
I want to ask you some professional advice =o)

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Re: Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video

2000-10-18 Thread d . pinter
This thread has been full of some interesting opinions, it actually reminds me 
of arguments that were made a few years ago when 'electronica' was supposed to 
blow up and be the next big thing. Remember all the buzz over 'AMP' I think 
people within the techno community saw it as signs of an invasion. That 
overnight artists who were dedicated to making unique and innovative music 
whould suddenly become hypnotized into selling out because of exposure to a 
mass audience. Jaguar is a great track with lots of emotion, we can all agree 
on that. I personally think Rolando deserves the exposure, MTV air-play 
included. Sure some people will love it and some people will not get it (music 
is after all an artform) the point is those who do like it will hopefully have 
had their minds opened and want to develop an appreciation for this music.


dave pinter




Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video

2000-10-18 Thread Nick Walsh
Most ppl within 10 miles who has heard my techno
rekkids hate all of them except my Technasia stuff... 

No class at all... You have to be a bit more mature I
think to understand good music... It comes natural to
me but a lot of children are born subnormal in North
Yorkshire so they have no hope of enjoying it or
understanding it... They're idea of music is single
finger key presses and a repetitive bassdrum... This
means you Pragnosis...

l8r,
Nick (Dj Pacific:) 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What I've found
with people who aren't into techno
> with Jaguar is most enjoy 
> it.  I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks
> to my friends in Florida 
> and many of them enjoy this track.  Some just start
> asking questions like 
> what is this genre.  Some think its music to
> sophisticated for them.  One of 
> my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought
> he "should be drinking a 
> martini to it".  Others just beg to barrow it and
> the remixes or even to buy 
> it of me but of course I refuse.  You can't contain
> something that is that 
> good.  Yes there will be people who will not respect
> the track as many of us 
> will, but to those who start asking questions
> because they heard it and then 
> grow to respect and love the music we all do thats
> great.  If they don't 
> truly like the music than it will pass.  They will
> listen to it for a while 
> and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds
> that they don't listen 
> to anymore and they will forget about it.  
>  If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage
> music I would be glad 
> someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by
> lets say Sonique or 
> Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers. 
> Maybe Jaguar will reach my 
> brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to
> the mainstream trash rap or 
> reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by
> those boy bands and their 
> music they don't make.  As much as I don't like
> Jaguar being broadcasted on 
> MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good
> that can come from it.
> 
> -Stacey
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Re: [313] tonight @ Detroit Contemporary

2000-10-18 Thread Diana Potts


it should be noted that advance tickets are 10 & at the door are 15


d



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Subject: [313] tonight @ Detroit Contemporary
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:48:18 GMT

experience an evening of berlin dub techniques and electronic visuals
with

:Pole
:Burnt Friedman
:Gramm

and video stimuli by Visomat and Synthetic

5142 Rosa Parks Blvd.
Detroit
Doors: 9pm

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CiM interview at Forcefield

2000-10-18 Thread pietro
An interview with Simon Walley
(Headspace/deFocus/Delsin) is
up at Forcefield..

http://www.forcefield.org


""With his some kind of mini-album Service
Pack on Delsin last year, Simon Walley
from London really suprised the world.
Ok, he had done some very decent releases
on Headspace, but with the Service Pack
ep, he showed an other side of his talents.
Quircky electronics with deeply fine soul
within.."" 


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Twonz Dj Schedule

2000-10-18 Thread Oul Shakur


Does anyone know were i can find twonz's dj schedule online, or more 
specificaly does anyone know if he is playing any gigs in england in the 
near future?


any help is very much appreciated


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Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video

2000-10-18 Thread WiKidfLaVa313
What I've found with people who aren't into techno with Jaguar is most enjoy 
it.  I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks to my friends in Florida 
and many of them enjoy this track.  Some just start asking questions like 
what is this genre.  Some think its music to sophisticated for them.  One of 
my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought he "should be drinking a 
martini to it".  Others just beg to barrow it and the remixes or even to buy 
it of me but of course I refuse.  You can't contain something that is that 
good.  Yes there will be people who will not respect the track as many of us 
will, but to those who start asking questions because they heard it and then 
grow to respect and love the music we all do thats great.  If they don't 
truly like the music than it will pass.  They will listen to it for a while 
and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds that they don't listen 
to anymore and they will forget about it.  
 If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage music I would be glad 
someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by lets say Sonique or 
Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers.  Maybe Jaguar will reach my 
brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to the mainstream trash rap or 
reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by those boy bands and their 
music they don't make.  As much as I don't like Jaguar being broadcasted on 
MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good that can come from it.

-Stacey


tonight @ Detroit Contemporary

2000-10-18 Thread synthetic detronik
experience an evening of berlin dub techniques and electronic visuals 
with


:Pole
:Burnt Friedman
:Gramm

and video stimuli by Visomat and Synthetic

5142 Rosa Parks Blvd.
Detroit
Doors: 9pm

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Re: [313] Am i in the right place?

2000-10-18 Thread Jonny McIntosh
> > I could have sworn that I joined this list because of my interest
> > and I will even go so far as to say passion for DETROIT music
> > both past and present.
> >
> > I recently posted a message informing everyone of an even newer
> > cover of the Song
> > Knights of the .
> > "produced by" Karizma on
> > the label Basement Boys from the States.
> > Does anyone know or care to comment on this furthermore sacrilege
> > to our anthem  the peoples anthem
> > It even credits Underground Resistance (not anyone person specifically).
>
> this caused me much confusion and stress.  what's up with ripping off
> jaguar?  and do you think kdj is happy about the titles "shades of k"
> (shades of jae) and "oneofdemnites" (dem young sconies) ?  if there are
> two people in detroit i don't want to piss off, it's mad mike and kenny
> dixon jr.  lots of people have commented on this record, and trust me,
> it wasn't because they liked it.

I saw heard this 12" the other day and the track in question sounds like a
straight ahead remix. I'm surprised that the Basement Boys of all people
would do an unauthorized mix, they're not exactly Sasha or anything, so I
thought it must have been done with permission. I've always held the
Basement Boys in pretty high regard, at least. Does anyone know the opinion
of UR, because, as I say, I am surprised that this has come from the
Basement Boys (if it is unauthorized)?

Jonny.

P.S. That Warp review tested my delete button - it works fine ;)




Re: [313] Am i in the right place?

2000-10-18 Thread * ani *

dcooper wrote:
> 
> I could have sworn that I joined this list because of my interest
> and I will even go so far as to say passion for DETROIT music
> both past and present.
> 
> I recently posted a message informing everyone of an even newer
> cover of the Song
> Knights of the .
> "produced by" Karizma on
> the label Basement Boys from the States.
> Does anyone know or care to comment on this furthermore sacrilege
> to our anthem  the peoples anthem
> It even credits Underground Resistance (not anyone person specifically).

this caused me much confusion and stress.  what's up with ripping off
jaguar?  and do you think kdj is happy about the titles "shades of k"
(shades of jae) and "oneofdemnites" (dem young sconies) ?  if there are
two people in detroit i don't want to piss off, it's mad mike and kenny
dixon jr.  lots of people have commented on this record, and trust me,
it wasn't because they liked it.


> On a side note,
> what's up to all the people in the house this past Sunday @ Temple for
> the Sandwiches video release party.
> Hey Fellas "Shirt Up"
> Hey Ladies "Pants Down"
> If you don't know you will soon find out what this is all about

i had to leave early, is this a new pubahs song?  i know they played a
lot of new material that night.

ani


CiM interview

2000-10-18 Thread marsel


CiM interview

With his some kind of mini-album Service Pack on Delsin last year, Simon 
Walley from London really suprised the world. Ok, he had done some very 
decent releases on Headspace, but with the Service Pack ep, he showed an 
other side of his talents. Quircky electronics with deeply fine soul 
within. Also not unnoticed by Clair (former Clear co-runner), who asked he 
to do more stuff. Resulting this year in an ep and the gorgeous album 
'Reference'. Time to hook up, and lay down some questions..


interview uploaded @ forcefield

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Am i in the right place?

2000-10-18 Thread dcooper
I could have sworn that I joined this list because of my interest
and I will even go so far as to say passion for DETROIT music
both past and present. 

I recently posted a message informing everyone of an even newer
cover of the Song 
Knights of the . 
"produced by" Karizma on
the label Basement Boys from the States.
Does anyone know or care to comment on this furthermore sacrilege
to our anthem  the peoples anthem
It even credits Underground Resistance (not anyone person specifically).

On a side note,
what's up to all the people in the house this past Sunday @ Temple for
the Sandwiches video release party. 
Hey Fellas "Shirt Up"
Hey Ladies "Pants Down"
If you don't know you will soon find out what this is all about
Also thanks to Ian & Linda thanks for bigging up my man moonstarr's 
performance, he is definitely doing some crazy music.
Watch out for the PTR music coming your way

Are you out there Detroit??

Later,
David Cooper

check www.technologix.org
tonight for Clear Radio 8pm -10pm EST 
for the musically inclined



Fw: The not so Incredible Warp Party

2000-10-18 Thread David Hampson
One more try without cusswords - my report on the Warp Records party:


A quick report on the Incredible Warp Party - overall the bands were great
but Warp's organisation was pretty appalling!

I guess the last IDM list before I left was a bad omen - whilst Orbital
received the 137th declaration that their music was "sh*te" (and the 136th
declaration that their music was "utter sh*te") despite being "intelligent"
"dance" and "music" for 10 years, Radiohead get their 5000th accolade for
being pretty good despite being "wankky shoegazer rock propped up by decent
remixers" for far too long (at least Elvis had the testicles to end it
all instead of making a career out of bitching about it).

First off the place was the most impossible place to find ever - it was
literally in an industrial estate somewhere in the middle of the docklands
area, and Warp would have made it easier to find by putting a picture of the
fish docks next door on the flyer instead of the Millenium Dome located
across the river (which any signposts that had been up have now been taken
down pending its impending demolishment!)  Still driving around London gave
us plenty of time to beech about just how bad UK garage and progressive
trance is!  It makes Radiohead sound good!

Finally we find the place and some of the bouncers have blocked off the road
and are taking backhanders to let people park or sending them to a McDonalds
car park a 20 minute walk away.  We decided to bite the bullet and pay a
fiver but were then denied the chance thanks to another of their number
telling them no more because they have to leave emergency exits.  Beeching
about another 20 minutes getting there was denied thanks to being able to
park on the street 2 minutes away for nothing - would we have been prepared
to give them a fiver a couple of minutes earlier knowing that!?! I think
not!

So finally we were able to walk to the venue to be confronted by the biggest
queue in the universe.  All those long-haired faggots queuing for Radiohead
tickets in subzero temperatures in New York were complete lightweights
compared to this queue - it went on over the horizon!  Shane being a
seasoned queue jumper decided we should walk all the way to the front and
try and blag our way into the queue which we did sooo easily it was a joke.

So we got in only to be confronted with a second queue to be searched - one
guy told us the reason it was taking so long was that 1 person in 3 with
bags was carrying a minidisc!  Some kid had his flyers which he wanted to
give away afterwards confiscated.  It felt we were being treated like we
were queueing up for gas chambers instead of a £20 a ticket party for a
label most of us there had been supporting for 11 years (and so had probably
paid out several hundred/thousand pounds for the ticket in the long run).  I
hope someone got an MD in and bootlegs their show to death! [they did]

Finally inside - there were about 7 portable festival toilets which for
people waiting an hour and a half in the cold temperatures to get in was yet
another queue for them to join.  There were two factory units which were
probably used as fish docks in real life, one labelled The Boiler and the
other unlabelled - on the positive side they had done a nice job in cleaning
them up and removing the smell of fish.

**SPECIAL WACKNESS AWARD FOR WARP** Its the middle of October and it was a
mild night but it could well have turned out to be cold and wet like the
previous weekend - there was no indication that it would be a semi-open air
do and most people were dressed pretty lightly.

So we checked out the two stages...

The Boiler was a room with windows that were vibrating manically (just
waiting for the moment when the right pitch was hit and they all burst
showering the pimply kids in anoraks sitting underneath with vicious shards
of glass) where I spent most of the night and seemed to be more of a Skam
room than a Warp room...  There was a guy playing who looked half oriental
and half whippet - he was pretty good playing the standard IDM genre fare to
a high standard.  We checked out The Other Fish Shed which was the most
ill-designed venue ever - firstly there was a wall down the middle - not
like a wall you could look over but a wall that went to the ceiling with a
door in the middle - Warp had taken the liberty to put speakers in the
non-stage area.  There was a bar in the non stage half which was totally
fing mfing jammed and crammed with thirsty-assed mfers
whilst next door there was a bar with bored looking staff waiting for
customers.  Some hip hop type dudes were playing behind the stage obviously
scared that someone may see their performance.  We decided we would ask the
girl on the soundtable where we could find out who is playing where and
when.

"Excuse me could you tell me where we can find out where and when the acts
are playing tonight?"

"I'm sorry I can't tell you that.  I do know but its a secret"

**SPECIAL WACKNESS AWARD FOR WARP #2**  I pay yo

Subject: RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-18 Thread David Hampson
>>that's possible, i hope not though the b/w version looks better imo<<

I would definitely argue to the contrary on that; the computer tinting is
probably the best I've ever seen on a silent film and definitely doesn't
detract; however it does omit most of the film at 80 minutes long (last I
heard they had a 3 hour version being prepared in Germany which was almost
the cut of the original film!).  The "colorized" version however did have
the most appalling soundtrack ever - I literally was unable to endure the
film with the music which Moroder had added - really really foul rock music
like Queen and other f***ing awful stuff.  Whenever I watch it I play a
selection of my own choice of music - FSOL's "Expander" is good because it
pretty much follows the mood of the film all the way through...

What nobody has mentioned is Mills intention to "..educate people in the
social theories of Metropolis..." or some such prententious claim.  These
are by far the weakest parts of the movie being derieved from the most naive
platitudes of Communism and Christianity - if the film was left to these
alone rather than the visuals it would have sank into obscurity decades ago!

BABY DIDDY



RE: [313] Tresor DJ-mix available online (downloadable mp3)

2000-10-18 Thread dj revolver
i agree - we don't get to taste that raw, detroit-berlin sound often enough. 
great mixes christian.

djr



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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:20:59 -0400

All of you should be downloading these sets if you have the HD
space...really great mixes.  The May 1999 mix has Christian feeding his
already great turntable skillz through a Space Echo for a truly crazy aural
experience; dubby, dirty, deep, detroit.



GYS
set.go.recordings


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New mix available at http://erave.org/profiles/bloch.shtml  This time live
at the tresor club in berlin july 1999. As always in downloadable mp3 
format

(filesize 50MB). The may 1999 mix temp down, should be back up soon though.

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Flylife Radio CJAM 91.5

2000-10-18 Thread dj revolver

A heads up to all 313ers:
Flylife Radio is back on the air bringing the finest techno and house that 
you'll never hear on commercial radio.

411:
Every Wednesday night
12am - 2am
CJAM 91.5
Windsor, ON, Canada
Listen live via internet: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/live.htm
Call CJAM: 971-3630 in Windsor 963-6112 ext. 3630 in Detroit
Hosts: Jimmy G and Steve Roy (djrevolver)

Tonight's show will feature a mix by Derrick Carter, a couple tracks off the 
Jeff Mills Metropolis Soundtrack, some German minimal techno, a special Plus 
8 mix and plenty of other gems that fall onto the turntables or into the CD 
players.


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RE: [313] Tresor DJ-mix available online (downloadable mp3)

2000-10-18 Thread Todd Gys
All of you should be downloading these sets if you have the HD
space...really great mixes.  The May 1999 mix has Christian feeding his
already great turntable skillz through a Space Echo for a truly crazy aural
experience; dubby, dirty, deep, detroit.



GYS
set.go.recordings


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Subject: [313] Tresor DJ-mix available online (downloadable mp3)


New mix available at http://erave.org/profiles/bloch.shtml  This time live
at the tresor club in berlin july 1999. As always in downloadable mp3 format
(filesize 50MB). The may 1999 mix temp down, should be back up soon though.

Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch

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Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video

2000-10-18 Thread debonair
just on a subliminal tangent on da video 187 da radio star tip, did anyone
see the model500 clip from a couple of years back - the one where juan does
tha red october thing, and emerges from the sea in a sexy wetsuit, while
some photogenic wannabes playin' da role?
just d-typed my memorythe road from detroit to coventry iz a
long one.
bond.james bond.
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From: "Nick Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: [313] Re: Jaguar Video


> Hi,
> No sweat about your post. All views are valid... I was
> actually the one who posted that ""commercial" music
> is what the public is fed, "underground" music we have
> to SEEK OUT to find, a need of a certain kind of
> people..." thing.
>
> I have very strong feelings about music... In fact I
> share your views in a way. I saw the new Jaguar
> release in HMV the other day... Made me kind of upset.
> This tune has been an anthem for everything we stand
> for, the passion, the power, our love against
> commercialism. It stood for everything, when the
> remixes came out I was really quite emotional. I seem
> to associate charty commercial dance with all the
> people I hate and all the things that have hurt me.
> There will be kids into trancy cheese going out and
> buying this, not understanding exactly what it means
> to us...
>
> l8r,
> Nick (Dj Pacific:)
>
> > after reading my post, i disagree with most of what
> > i said too...  i wish i
> > could take it back, but too many people have read it
> > and responded to it, oh
> > well.
> >
> > i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want
> > to see too many of the
> > 'wrong' fans in this...  i think one of the coolest
> > things about going to a
> > good techno party or even a good techno club is that
> > the majority of the
> > people understand it's about the music, and not the
> > glory/image/popularity.
> > the majority of people who listen to underground
> > music have this
> > appreciation for the music like no other.
> >
> > i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new
> > listeners in of all
> > different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has
> > something to satisfy
> > everybody.  i don't think it will necessarily be a
> > bad thing to show it on
> > TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a
> > bad thing for it NOT to
> > show on TV.  i guess that was more of what i was
> > trying to say.
>
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Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread rob webb

Klaas-Jan wrote:


> SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station.


then Tom wrote:


I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would
happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs
only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough.


i wouldn't want to be accused of selling my countrymen short, but perhaps 
Jaguar is simply not an *obvious* enough track for mainstream UK tastes.  
similarly with Sandwiches.  both are great tracks, both had some support 
from Pete Tong et al, but at the end of the day that doesn't mean either 
will sell to your average British 'likes a few tunes' punter.  i mean, can 
you really see people picking up a copy of Jaguar along with Alice Deejay or 
Darude's latest effort?


mebbe Jaguar and Sandwiches are too raw, too funky, too real.  we don't 
understand.  does not compute.  they're not, ugh, shiny enough.


something else to consider is MTV's influence on the British music 
industry/economy.  radio obviously plays a role in raising the profile of a 
record, but imho heavy rotation of the video would surely make a serious 
difference to Jaguar's sales and thus chart position.




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RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread D . J . Butler
A lot of people (on this list and off) who are into this would have 
already bought their copy a long time ago when it came out 
first time. Supposing that's a few thousand around the UK, that's 
a big dent in any singles sales these days. Could be a reason.
I, like most, haven't got the money to be buying two copies of 
records (friends have to lend me records for doubles fun!)

On another note, anybody have details for Joe Clausell's 
appearance in London this weekend?
Need a place I can order tickets from.

cheers,

Dan

http://www.mp3.com/DanButler

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> 
> > SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
> but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station.
> 
> I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought
> would
> happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the
> UKs
> only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough.
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Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread Tom Robbins
> SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts
but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station.

I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would
happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs
only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough.



313@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 Thread Diana Potts


always living in the future.feeling like a dumbkopft today.
that's 10.22.00 folks.

d


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Unwind.02 (toth&fu)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:11:36 GMT


Presenting, Unwind (version two)

an evening of delicate jazzy and experimental sounds and sciences.

sunday 10.22.02/beginning at 8pm.

on this evening:
special, rare down tempo sets with
paris the black fu
andy toth

sponsored by:
diana potts
and musical residents:
rob theakston (planet e)
bill van loo (chromedecay)

(location provided by)
 cafe espresso royale, state street (across from diag)
 ann arbor, michigan

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Re: Jaguar Video

2000-10-18 Thread Nick Walsh
Hi,
No sweat about your post. All views are valid... I was
actually the one who posted that ""commercial" music
is what the public is fed, "underground" music we have
to SEEK OUT to find, a need of a certain kind of
people..." thing. 

I have very strong feelings about music... In fact I
share your views in a way. I saw the new Jaguar
release in HMV the other day... Made me kind of upset.
This tune has been an anthem for everything we stand
for, the passion, the power, our love against
commercialism. It stood for everything, when the
remixes came out I was really quite emotional. I seem
to associate charty commercial dance with all the
people I hate and all the things that have hurt me.
There will be kids into trancy cheese going out and
buying this, not understanding exactly what it means
to us...

l8r,
Nick (Dj Pacific:)

> after reading my post, i disagree with most of what
> i said too...  i wish i 
> could take it back, but too many people have read it
> and responded to it, oh 
> well.
> 
> i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want
> to see too many of the 
> 'wrong' fans in this...  i think one of the coolest
> things about going to a 
> good techno party or even a good techno club is that
> the majority of the 
> people understand it's about the music, and not the
> glory/image/popularity.  
> the majority of people who listen to underground
> music have this 
> appreciation for the music like no other.
> 
> i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new
> listeners in of all 
> different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has
> something to satisfy 
> everybody.  i don't think it will necessarily be a
> bad thing to show it on 
> TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a
> bad thing for it NOT to 
> show on TV.  i guess that was more of what i was
> trying to say.

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313@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 Thread Diana Potts


Presenting, Unwind (version two)

an evening of delicate jazzy and experimental sounds and sciences.

sunday 10.22.02/beginning at 8pm.

on this evening:
special, rare down tempo sets with
paris the black fu
andy toth

sponsored by:
diana potts
and musical residents:
rob theakston (planet e)
bill van loo (chromedecay)

(location provided by)
 cafe espresso royale, state street (across from diag)
 ann arbor, michigan

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RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Here in Holland the radio played Kosheen's 'Hide U' every day and they
reached the top of the charts without a massive promotional campaign. There
wasn't even a video from 'Hide U'. Kosheen had a big hit with this tracj
over here, everybody knew this song. SO i do think it is possible for a
track to reach the top of the charts but they do need airplay from some
radio/tv station.

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>  I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but 
>  'Jaguar' debuted at
>  number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower 
>  than I personally
>  expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why?
>  
>  Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had 
>  something to do
>  with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went 
>  back to Oct
>  9th)
>  
>  Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't 
>  adequate. For
>  example, it was handled in the UK by a company called 
>  Sainted PR, who,
>  whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno
>  activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc. 
>  My man Jonas
>  Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years 
>  back, and does all
>  the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have
>  thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently 
>  Sainted got it as
>  a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up. 
>  Mind you, there
>  have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of 
>  music mags her,
>  so...
>  
>  Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da 
>  Bass 'Doom's
>  Night' was also released last week and that has entered the 
>  chart at about
>  number 6. The difference is that they have a massive 
>  promotional campaign
>  behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with 
>  flyposters, just as
>  it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'.
>  
>  Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's 
>  unlikely ot go much
>  higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these 
>  days like they
>  used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards.
>  
>  Tom MF
>  
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Jaguar in UK charts

2000-10-18 Thread Tom Robbins
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but 'Jaguar' debuted at
number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower than I personally
expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why?

Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had something to do
with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went back to Oct
9th)

Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't adequate. For
example, it was handled in the UK by a company called Sainted PR, who,
whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno
activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc. My man Jonas
Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years back, and does all
the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have
thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently Sainted got it as
a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up. Mind you, there
have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of music mags her,
so...

Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da Bass 'Doom's
Night' was also released last week and that has entered the chart at about
number 6. The difference is that they have a massive promotional campaign
behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with flyposters, just as
it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'.

Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's unlikely ot go much
higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these days like they
used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards.

Tom MF



Re: [313] Jaguar video

2000-10-18 Thread Erkki Rautio

> Jaguar Jaguar, all adroit,
> Beneath the streets of dread Detroit:
> What mere mortal MTV,
> Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
>
> Wes--with apologies to William Blake ;=)

I laughed aloud when I read this... thanks :)


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Re: [313] User/00A... Eh?

2000-10-18 Thread Revaron
In a message dated 17/10/00 18:34:07 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> I am utterly convinced that Richard Harvey, Harvey lane, and Richie Hawtin
>  are the same people, and Jeff Mills is I n the mix somewhere, all this 
mixed
>  up info, no one has ever seen him, who on earth is harvey lane?

I have seen Harvey Lane on a number of occasions, he's a resident at House of 
God in Birmingham, and I've heard him play at a few party's as well.  
Definately not Hawtin or Mills at any rate, whoever these people are, they 
come from Birmingham.  Didn't we go through this in a major way just a couple 
of weeks ago?

Aaron


R: [313] Mill's Live from the Liquid Room

2000-10-18 Thread fab137
Hi,
i found it on napsterthat's the best place to look for live/dj sets if
you ask me.
regards
fab
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>
> Anyone know where I can find a copy of Mill's Live
> from the Liquid Room online?  I've tried Submerge and
> some of the mainstream music outlets, no success.
>
> Thanks.
>
> @be
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Tresor DJ-mix available online (downloadable mp3)

2000-10-18 Thread Christian Bloch
New mix available at http://erave.org/profiles/bloch.shtml  This time live
at the tresor club in berlin july 1999. As always in downloadable mp3 format
(filesize 50MB). The may 1999 mix temp down, should be back up soon though.

Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch

Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go



RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2000-10-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
they have a problem with their webzite, the whole eevolute site is down

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>  
>  anyone know what the story is with the electro list - is it 
>  still down?
>  ines?
>  
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anyone know what the story is with the electro list - is it still down?
ines?

cheers

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New SND album...

2000-10-18 Thread Lance @ Inaudible
. SND: stdiosnd types cd/2xlp (Mille Plateaux)

 PRESS WRITEUP -- One of mille plateaux's most popular acts of 1999 return 
with their highly anticipated second full length called 'stdiosnd types.' This 
follows
last year's quintessential release 'Makesnd Cassette,' a phenomenal example of 
interface design in music that earned them a nomination for album of the year 
by 
the prestigious Ars Electronica committee. Residing in Sheffield, UK, Mat Steel 
and Mark Fell continue to develop the aesthetic and conceptual anatomy of 
'Makesnd Cassette,' focusing on virtuality, machinish and digitality by giving 
and 
introduction in minimalism of the 21st Century. 'stdiosnd types' is both more 
traditional and more abstract than their first album, aiming to reach further 
in each 
direction than ever before. In doing so, it highlights features from both the 
early 
US techno scene and contemporary digital compositions. Here, each tradition is 
used as a template, throught which snd trace lines of mutual opposition. By 
reducing musical components to a minimum, snd aim to address what exists in 
the bargin between the listenable and unlistenable. In this respect, their 
music 
articulates a dislike of the artistic environment they ahve inherited and 
resists 
the inward pull of the genre within which they are often placed. So, put on 
your 
headphones and listen to one of 2000's most captivating minimalist releases.

 LANCE WRITEUP -- SND take a break from their more rhythmic looped
approach to minimalism on this new album in favor of a much subtler down-
tempo pace. SND utilize all the sounds that you grew to love on their past
releases but arrange them this time in almost a loungy minimal electronica
style. Stdiosnd Types features a really nice twist to the SND sound and 
a style i dont recall hearing before. Is it jazzy microsound with warmth? Is
is miminal lounge glitch? Whatever you want to call it, it's highly recommend
and will be on my Tops List of 2k.

 RELEASE INFOS:
. SND: stdiosnd types cd/2xlp (Mille Plateaux)
 Tracks:
 - 9 a.1
 - 00020 a
 - Track 15.1
 - 00039 d.6
 - Track 12.4
 - 0001 7 a.1
 - 5 re  vers on C
 - Track 19
 - t nk el m n.a ff
 - 00018 ild end ng
 - 00016 a.5
 - untitled
 - 4 a.3
 - 2 cords.1
 - 00030 d.5
 - 00024 b.2
 - 00036 a

Release date: 11/15/00

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New Terre Thaemlitz release...

2000-10-18 Thread Lance @ Inaudible
. Terre Thaemlitz: interstices cd/2xlp (Mille Plateaux)

 PRESS WRITEUP -- Terre Thaemlitz latest electroacoustique release, 
‘Intersteices’ 
(meaning ‘small spaces or cracks between objects’), ostensibly presents itself 
as an 
album about process. In particular, Thaemlitz’s accompanying text discusses two 
processes called Framing and Systolic Composition. However, Thaemlitz attempts 
to complicate the formalist trappings of an ‘album about process' which plague 
so 
many digital synthesis and electroacoustique projects by defining his recurrent 
use 
of these processes in relation to the intended socioanalytical thematics of his 
compositions. In particular, Thaemlitz is interested in using 'Interstital' 
sounds and 
compositional processes as metaphors for identities which exist between 
dominant 
binarism of sexuality, gender and ethnicity. The compositions in 'Interstices' 
raise 
issues of Transgenderism (including intersexuality and transsexuality), queer 
pansexuality, identity politics and the essentialist dangers of disenfranchised 
'homecoming' fantasy. He also discusses the frustrations of developing audio 
discourse in a marketplace which repeatedly restricts fair-use sampling, 
arguing 
that musicians should be able to use sampling in the same manner that writers 
use 
quotations with footnotes. As usual, Thaemlitz undertakes these discussions with
a critical eye to his own actions as a producer.
 As an award-winning international dj and long time audio experimentalist in
New York's underground clubs, Terre Thaemlitz produces audio works which 
exploit the contrasting functions of music as a socializing force and a point 
for 
subjective release. Since 1992 he has run his own record label called Comatonse 
Recordings, and has recorded for many other labels including Instinct, 
Subharmonic,
Caipirinha, and Daisyworld. Thaemlitz is also credited for remixes and 
collaborations
with Bill Laswell, Jane Dowe, Material, Haruomi Honoso, The Golden Palominos,
William S Burroughs, Drum Komputer, Adam Shaikh and Chugga. In critical 
response to the over-genrefied demands of the music marketplace, a number of
recent releases have taken the form of genres typically not associated with 
Thaemlitz, such as an album of neo-expressionist piano solos (Die Roboter 
Rubato), and and anthology of electronic dance genres (G.R.R.L.). Meanwhile,
Thaemlitz has continued to pursue his primary interest of direct digital 
synthesis
though such releases as 'Couture Cosmetique,' 'Means From an End,' and 'Love 
For Sale.' Through the crossing of musical genres, Thaemlitz hopes to complicate
notions of music's universality by approaching different genres as systems of
representation, the signifiers of which may be engages at will and without the
rigorous training typically associated with such specializations.

 LANCE COMMENTS -- I dont know if i agree (or even understand)
the issues that Terre Thaemlitz attempts to address on his releases but I
always seem to enjoy his music and 'Interstices' is no exception. This
album features thirty tracks of electroacoustique-glitch-microsound-
field recording-electronica that take the listener on a sonic journey that
winds it's way though a variety of moods & atmospheres - from dark
and unsettling to cold and minimal and everything inbetween. 

 RELEASE INFOS:
. Terre Thaemlitz: interstices cd/2xlp (Mille Plateaux)
 Tracks:
 - left waiting
 - frames 001
 - frames 003
 - frames 005
 - systole 001
 - frames 002
 - systole 010
 - there was a girl/there was a boy - declamation
 - systole 009
 - frames 004
 - systole 008
 - systole 004
 - systole 011
 - systole 005
 - systole 006
 - systole 002
 - systole 007
 - systole 003
 - entre l'action et le deuil 002
 - entre l'action et le deuil 001
 - entre l'action et le deuil 004
 - entre l'action et le deuil 003
 - entre l'action et le deuil 005
 - there was a girl/there was a boy - intersex
 - there was a girl/there was a boy - wendy (15 minutes of shame)
 - there was a girl/there was a boy - analsex
 - homeward 002
 - homeward 003
 - homeward 001
 - homeward 004
 - phase of post music

Release date: 11/28/00
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New M.R.I. full length...

2000-10-18 Thread Lance @ Inaudible
. M.R.I.: rhythmogenesis cd/2xlp (Force Tracks)

 PRESS WRITUP: 'Rhythmogenesis' is the first long player of Frankfurt based 
duo Stephan Lieb & Frank Elting. M.R.I. are representatives of the emerging 
German 
minimal house scene. M.R.I. are on of the Force Tracks' best selling artists, 
which has 
a profound effect on the house/tech-house scene, played and praised by some of 
the 
world's top djs. It began with their first Force Tracks 12" single 
'Dauerlaufer,' a 
momentous release that sent an eloquent message to the masses that these two 
were 
destined for greatness. Their recent maxi once again recieved critical acclaim 
and has
laid the foundation for this significant full-length debut. With 
'Rhythmogenesis,' 
M.R.I. have effectively administered an injection that is exquisitely 
refreshing in a 
time of over-formulated generic regurgitation that much of house music seems to 
be 
steadfast in. M.R.I. produce a deep journey on their first album, conjuring 
variations 
of minimal techno, dub, minimal and even deep house. A release that is arguably 
one 
of Force Tracks most accessible releases to date, and essential for fanso of 
minimal 
house, 'Rhythmogenesis' promises to be another influential Force Tracks 
releases 
that is profoundly revolutionizing commercial house music.

 LANCE COMMENTS -- After a pair of excellent 12"s on Force Tracks,
M.R.I. release their first album of deep dubby tech-house. The album features
four tracks off their previous 12"s (including the summer club smash 
Dauerlaufer)
along with four new tracks. The tech-house that M.R.I. is percussive enough to
be floor-friendly and deep enough to be enjoyed afterhours. Fans of Dub Taylor,
Dirk Diggler, Matthias Schaffhauser, or even Sascha Funke should be into this
one. Recommended.

 RELEASE INFO:
. M.R.I.: rhythmogenesis cd/2xlp (Force Tracks)
 Tracks:
 - dauerlaufer
 - to be honest
 - nummern
 - kompression
 - eau de cologne
 - human patterns
 - out of daily routine
 - schnellbahn

Release date: 11/28/00

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New Tomas Jirku release...

2000-10-18 Thread Lance @ Inaudible
. Tomas Jirku: sequins cd (Force Inc)
 PRESS WRITEUP -- Tomas Jirku is the first Canadian signing and latest 
North American addition to the Force Inc/Mille Plateaux collective, further 
developing the freshly minded genre of Clickhouse and Click Techno. 
This release comes after his highly acclaimed release ‘Variants’ on the 
Alien8 label. Prior to ‘Variants,’ Jirkuy had made a massive impact online 
with his mp3 tracks on the Notype.com label. In fact, the ‘Variants” project 
spawned from direct interaction with fans and Jirku in the creation of the 
compositions by posting their opinions and ideas. Following this, Jirku 
would upload variations of what was taken from these interations.
 Czech Republic born Jirku uses a unique process of recording, completely 
computer based, that allows him to explore deeper into sounds. He tries to 
be subtle with his use of digital manipulation to add layers that couldn’t be 
achieved using conventional studio techniques. Motivated by the extreme 
Toronto climate, and unlike the darker, cooler ‘Variants’ release, ‘Sequins’ 
was produced over the warm summer months, hence reflecting a more 
upbeat funky disco feel with fast tempos, bouncy rhythms and a more 
immediate sound in comparison to her previously heavy atmospheric 
compositions. Jirku meticulously focuses on the most minute elements in 
the rhythm and tried to stay away from the distracting elaborate bass lines 
that are such a usual main element in techno. Digital glitches are an integral 
part of each combination, where subtle distortions extracted from each 
element of a song continually enhance the rhythm. Many of the tracks on 
‘Sequins’ were composed as a deconstruction of funk samples using heavy 
digital manipulation and filtering. As Force Inc. attempts to revolutionize 
techno, Jirku composes rhythms and textures complex enough for listening 
yet upbeat and groovy enough for the clubs. Enter the glitch-funk.

 LANCE COMMENTS: After his excellent but relatively relaxed 
Variants cd on Alien8, Tomas Jirku delivers this album with more of an
uptempo, straightforward, and floor friendly feel. With Sequins Jirku
still applies his brand of experimental dub but this time around a funky
tech-house/techno/disco framework. But even though this album is
more of an uptempo affair, it still maintains somewhat of the relaxed
atmosphere by keeping the percussion and basslines light. More solid
music from Jirku showing his skill in more floorfriendly realms. Imagine
a Farben & Daft Punk collaboration and you'll have an idea of what
Tomas has going on here.

 RELEASE INFOS:
. Tomas Jirku: sequins cd (Force Inc)
 Tracks:
 - sequin one
 - sequin two
 - *
 - sequin three
 - *
 - sequin four
 - sequin five
 - *
 - sequin six
 - sequin seven
 - sequin eight
 - *
 - sequin nine
 - *

Release date: 11/28/00

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keys

2000-10-18 Thread Hugh G. Blaze
Okay, let me start with the obligatory apology for OT content. But when it 
comes to a quesiton about all things musical, this is the place I look.
Does anyone know anyone/anywhere where a one could get keyboard instruction 
in the Detroit area? Like actually playing the thing with your hands, not 
quantizing notes. I'm not ttrying to go find someplace out of the yellow 
pages where some krusty dude will give me $100/hour lessons.
Not to give the wrong impression. I'm willing to spend some loot. Maybe even 
$100 per lesson. But I would like the person doing the teaching to have a 
little familiarity with where I (we) are coming from. But also want to learn 
from someone who was themselves well trained.

Any suggestions?
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Steel Wheels and Wax Emotion

2000-10-18 Thread Phonopsia
Here's another mix for ya. Mostly house and some techno. The mixing is by no
means the best I'm capable of, but I was happy enough with the tracklist I
decided to post it anyway.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/mixes.htm

Tracklist:

St. Germain - Rose Rouge - Blue Note (France)

Blue Boy - Need It - Ascension Records (UK)

Andre Harris - Lifted (Original) - Cajual (US)

Common Nature - Can You See the Sunshine Through the Rain? (A Deeper Dub
Mix) Guidance (US)

Ron Trent - Dark Room - Balance Recordings (US)

Mike Clark - In the Morning - Planet E (US)

Chez Damier - Help Myself (Reconstructed by Carl Craig) - KMS (US)

YMC - Tranceatlantic - Yoshitoshi Recordings (US)

Wyndell Long - Asphasia - Peacefrog (UK)

Inner City - Good Life ( Pooley's "It's an Honour" mix) - PIAS (France)

Evil C and the Hustler - Let the Bass Kick - Good Life Records (France)

Kosmic Messenger - Polyphonic Destruction - The End (UK)

Designer Music - Stevie Knows - Planet E (US)

Jeff Mills - If (They) - Purpose Maker (US)

Freq - Xirtam 2 (Original Mix) - Distance (UK)

Paul Johnson - Back to the Ghetto - ACV Records - (Italy)

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A short message from TP regarding Australian Tour & Euphoria Sundays

2000-10-18 Thread JovanBlade
Greetings!

It is with the absolute deepest regret that I must cancel my trip to 
Australia. I have been looking forward to coming to Australia for many years. 
However, I was placed in a very difficult position which forced me to make a 
firm decision to cancel this tour. Perhaps one day I will get the honor to 
finally be able to share my musical vibe on Australian soil.  

It is with further disappointment and regret that I must inform you that 
Steve Crawford and I have decided to make Sunday October 29th (The Euphoria 
Halloween Party) our FINAL NIGHT at Club Karma. This decision was primarily 
mine with Steve in full agreement and support of my decision. I will continue 
to spin each Sunday night thru the 29th. 

I hope you accept this letter under the spirit in which it was written.

peace & respect,

Terrence (TP) Parker

p.s. Much respect to the 500,000 cats who watched Roy Davis Jr & I bang the 
box at the System Sound Bar in Toronto courtesy of BlackHoleTv.com


Terrence Parker's DJ calendar September thru December 2000
for more info check out www.TerrenceParker.com or call 1 248 784 7233

September : 

Friday 1st - PTC Club ~ HANNOVER (GERMANY)
Saturday 2nd - Summer Spirit Festival ~ JUETERBOG (GERMANY) 
Sunday 3rd - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)
Saturday 9th -  T.K.O. (Technical Knockout) Party BATON ROUGE (USA)
Sunday 10th - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA) 
Friday 15th - Club Liquid 109 ~ KALAMAZOO (USA)  
Saturday 16th - Motor Lounge ~ HAMTRAMCK (USA)
Saturday 16th (late night) - Biokidd's "Time To Shine" Party ~ DETROIT (USA)
Sunday 17th - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)
Saturday 23rd - Flamingo Club ~ ESSEN (GERMANY) 
Sunday 24th - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)

October :

Sunday 1st - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)
Monday 2nd - Miss Zak's Birthday Party @ Cloud 9 ~ HAMTRAMCK (USA)
Saturday 7th -  Rotation/Gabe's ~ IOWA CITY (USA)
Sunday 8th - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)
Saturday 14th - System Sound Bar ~ TORONTO (CANADA)
Sunday 15th - TP & Steve Crawford Present EUPHORIA ~ FERNDALE (USA)
Saturday 21st - Home Nightclub ~ SYDNEY (AUSTRALIA) canceled
Friday 27th - Seven Night Club ~ MELBOURNE (AUSTRALIA) canceled
Saturday 28th - Ministry of Sound Party ~ PERTH (AUSTRALIA) canceled
Sunday 29th - EUPHORIA's Halloween Party ~ FERNDALE (USA)

November :

Wednesday 8th - Cloud 9 ~ HAMTRAMCK (USA)
Saturday 11th - We Rule The Night pt. 2 / 100 free TP CDs ~ DETROIT (USA)  
Thursday 16th - Club Spiral ~ LANSING (USA) 
Saturday 18th  - Boogie Monsters Party ~ DETROIT (USA)

December :

Friday 1st - Club Liquid 109 ~ KALAMAZOO (USA) not yet confirmed
Saturday 2nd - Static Party ~ COLUMBUS OHIO (USA) 
Saturday 9th - Good Vibes Party @ St. Andrew's Hall ~ DETROIT (USA)
Sunday 31st - Dockland's New Year's Eve Party ~ MUENSTER (GERMANY) 


+8 // M_nus Records Party In NYC October 19th

2000-10-18 Thread Jorge Velez

 Thursday October 19 2000
   (10 pm -- ?)

* THEOREM (M_nus Records)

* CLARK WARNER  (+8 // M_nus Records)

* SATAMILE (Satamile Records)

* P.JAY  (Nyex)

Visuals By P.J.net // Feedbuck  and others

$10  //  $5 with flyer   ---  BAKTUN 418 W 14th Street )

Xtra 1100 Watt Sub Bass Enforcement

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