Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-21 Thread Phonopsia
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 I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3
members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the
original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2
members split and started Plaid.


Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early
stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those earlier
albums to Not For Threes or Music for Adverts and Short Films and they
got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as good
a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any one
track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece.

Tristan
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Re: [313] Alan Oldham's new comic book!

2002-02-21 Thread Mike Taylor

Hello,

From what I understand it should be in stores now. When Alan did the show a 

few weeks ago the comics had been shipped to the distributors.
It will be a cd with a full color comic in a black 12 sleeve. There will 
also be a limited edition 12 release of the more dancefloor oriented 
material.


The Marco Passarani track and Nueva Habana by Mills are the stand out 
tracks. Stewart Walker and Brian Zentz make a good showing as well.


Also look out for the Neutra EP. It was supposed to be dropped in early 
March, but Alan is delaying the release till DEMF weekend. I have a couple 
white labels of this, and I am probably going to give one of them away on 
the show in the next couple weeks.


Take care,
Mike


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Don't know and no it didn't - ya gotta love tease articles like that.

MEK




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Where would I be able to order this from?
and : Did it mention when it was going to be released?

_derek

On 2002.02.20 23:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a new comic
 book
 The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud plus there is apparently a
 CD
 with tracks by Alan, Jeff Mills, Brian Zentz, Stewart Walker, The
 Advent
 and Terrence Dixon to go along with it! If the graphic on the magazine
 page
 is anything to go by - it's going to be great.

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Re: [313] Alan Oldham's new comic book!

2002-02-21 Thread Jayson B.


New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a new comic book 
The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud



i'm surprised it took this long for someone to mention something on this 
list (i was going to, but i'm lazy).



the comic book isn't that bad at all.  The artwork is FANTASTIC, and the 
storyline is certainly above par.



The soundtrack however, scares me.  Personally i already feel its one of the 
best releases of the year EASILY.  I don't know it is about the opening jeff 
mills track, but it gives me chills.  The whole cd does.  Brilliant job from 
everyone.


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Re: [313] Alan Oldham's new comic book!

2002-02-21 Thread kelli b kavanaugh
this week's metro times has an article about the comic book/soundtrack.  it
says it's available now at both record times (roseville/ferndale).

see
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=2973

kbk

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 Don't know and no it didn't - ya gotta love tease articles like that.

 MEK

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 Where would I be able to order this from?
 and : Did it mention when it was going to be released?

 _derek

 On 2002.02.20 23:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a new comic
  book
  The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud plus there is apparently a
  CD
  with tracks by Alan, Jeff Mills, Brian Zentz, Stewart Walker, The
  Advent
  and Terrence Dixon to go along with it! If the graphic on the magazine
  page
  is anything to go by - it's going to be great.
 
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[313] electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread philip

funsters

i am really digging the i-f mix up in the hague CD (thanx aly!) i am
wondering if anyone can tell me where  when the tracks come from, most of
them sound quite old but you never can tell sometimes.  

also here in oz the issue of XLR8 (not a bad mag - sure is a nice change
from the UK press. funny to see full page ads for a stacey pullen tour...)
that's just hit the shops (actually from nov 01) has a feature on
contemporary electro artists like andrea parker, j saul kane  anthony
rother. after hearing some stuff on mo wax i kinda lost interest in new
electro cos it seemed kinda trip hoppy  missing all the things i liked
about it, but but the stuff that on the i-f CD is lotsa fun. so feel free
to recommend any other artists who might be making similarly cool stuff i
might enjoy, thanx a bunch. 

spacerwoman by charly is so cool!

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Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-21 Thread Super Coffee Beans
there are some people (like my GF) who thinks that after the split plaid
people has lost their touch. i don`t think so, i really adore black dog for
making ground breaking music,but plaid music is very very good one too. i
really like alot of their stuff.
kind regards
y
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  I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original
3
 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the
 original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2
 members split and started Plaid.
 

 Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early
 stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those
earlier
 albums to Not For Threes or Music for Adverts and Short Films and they
 got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as
good
 a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any
one
 track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece.

 Tristan
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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Trevor Wilkes
You might want to check out some of Carl Finlow's stuff. Of late his best
stuff, in my opinion would be the two tracks on the Orks of War 12 on Art
of Perception and his first release under his own name on Device.

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[313] slightly OT, but...

2002-02-21 Thread Mxyzptlk
...as the new TBD entered into discussion, I'll go out on a limb and say 
the new Vertical Forms CD is astonishing. Not Detroit,  - but wow.

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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Super Coffee Beans
he`s fine producer, on 2020 vision makes very groovey house with elektro
style. i don`t like the new 2020 stuff since its kinda progressive but the
older things r PHAT.
he had some stuff at a label called subvert as electric soul- fine stuff.
and on klang as il ek tro. fine fine!
y.
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 You might want to check out some of Carl Finlow's stuff. Of late his best
 stuff, in my opinion would be the two tracks on the Orks of War 12 on Art
 of Perception and his first release under his own name on Device.

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[313] Kevin Saunderson| February 25th|The Works, Detroit

2002-02-21 Thread Barbara Deyo
 Kevin Saunderson and KMS Productions present:  KICK.  In celebration of the 
 release of his new Trust The DJ compilation CD: KS 01.
 KS 01 is available exclusively through Trust The DJ.com, pre-orders start 
 being taken February 25th, and officially released March
 25th.  For more information regarding the compilation, please visit 
 www.trustthedj.com/kevinsaunderson.  
 
 KICK
 Monday, February 25th
 The Works
 1846 Michigan Ave, Detroit
 at the corner of Rosa Parks, two blocks west of the old Tiger Stadium.
 313-961-1742
 doors @ 9pm until ?
 $7 until 11pm, $10 after
 18+
 
 Line up:
 Kevin Saunderson w/
 Special international TTDJ guest artist, to be announced Saturday
 
 www.trustthedj.com
 www.kmsproductions.com 
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[313] great live set from derrick carter live!

2002-02-21 Thread Super Coffee Beans
http://livestream.groovetech.com:8080/ramgen/farm/62.189.43.171/encoder/spac
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Re: [313] Thurs Feb 21- Motor Productions presents Quest: Nothing but House

2002-02-21 Thread Erin Bate


YEAH! this is great to hear...Not to mention the excellent choice of 
DJ's to have for the club, I can't wait to come to detroit...again!! I 
have a soft spot for huckaby :)

~ E




Motor Productions Proudly Presents
the Grand Opening of Ferndale's all House Music Night:

Quest

With DJs:
  Mike Huckaby
  Gabe Real


This will be a weekly event showcasing the finest 
House Music talent from Detroit and the world.





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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread J. T.
philip, what you're really talking about with i-f's cd is italo 
disco..(altho there is a very small amount of electro near the end i think)

i'm sure 40 other people will be telling you in a moment :P

...it is indeed almost all old stuff, there used to be a tracklisting online 
but i dunno where it is anymore. i havent listened to that mix in awhile but 
i remember it had hipnosis, mr flagio, charly, Q, patrick cowley..doctor's 
cat? somebody else will know.


you should really check out i-f's own music as parallax corp as well.
and if you buy vinyl a lot of the stuff going on on the labels distributed 
by clone http://clone.nl (especially viewlexx, bunker, creme, clone...)


specific reccomendations could go on and on...i-f's mixes are a good place 
to start tho, he has new ones posted regularly (usually linked via clone, 
also check mixnet via http://www.hotmix.nl), also check tlr's mixes on 
global darkness (http://www.globaldarkness.com)


jt

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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread neontsetse
...hm, don´t know how many years ago it was 

when you heard mo wax - electro ? :D

some of last years electro basics 4 me were:  

chaos - afrogermanic  ? UR  

of course Mr. Keith Tucker, Black Electric,  - Puzzlebox, direct beat,
Delsin ...  

and overgalactical crazy deep electro stuff by Nubian Mindz 

- check his LP on Archive ...   more on 2000black and drum n bass on
reinforced 


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[313] kms afterparty (was Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313)

2002-02-21 Thread Eli Bingham
I was at the KMS party.  The highlight of the festival for me personally,
I guess.  But that lineup isn't right...I arrived around 2am and D-wynn
was on...Doc Martin followed, and then Master Reese...Derrick May played
last.  Not sure about the lineup in the front as I was enthralled in the
back all night, but I know that Gene Farris played in there.

Coxy wasn't around.  Wasn't he supposed to be sick? Jim Masters came 
through though - he was stumbling around on the dancefloor for awhile
trying to pick up ladies.

The Works was serving a mean cranberry juice with extra ice until
7am.  Is this normal in the D?

-Eli

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:51:36PM -0500, Matthew L. Thompson wrote:
 I had wanted to go to the KMS afterparty last year at The Works... my
 schedule did not allow for that, unfortunately.  I think tickets for that
 were pretty reasonable, something like $15 at the KMS booth at DEMF, and $20
 at the door.  That included Kevin Saunderson, D. Wynn, Herdest Cummings, and
 Carl Cox (who sicked out on the DEMF but managed to make it to the
 afterparty, I heard).  I don't know who was charging so much, but you
 wouldn't have seen me at any of the high dollar afterparties.
 
 In regards to streaming the sets over the web from the stages, didn't
 Groovetech provide a live feed and/or an archive of the sets as well?  Or
 maybe that was just for the first DEMF, I'm not sure.  I don't think they
 are around anymore, so it's anyone's guess as to who might handle it this
 year.  KMS Productions has a nice streaming broadband audio/video feed of
 the Monday evening set with Inner City, Juan Atkins, and I also believe
 Derrick May (before the hailstones hit) on their site at kmsproductions.com.
 
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  Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:22:25
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  Subject: RE: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313
 
  Well i agree about the recording,, like i said i can't believe no one got
  Jay's set on tape or c.d., not even him. I've checked.
  But $200 for the after parties I spent about $60 last year on after
  parties and even though I missed one night of them, I can't believe I
  would've spent $140 more that night.
 
  Unless of course someone party hops to 3 or 4 a night and then I don't see
  how you would really enjoy the parties anyway? I thought the after parties
  were priced reasonably. Although I did have to pick and choose.
 
 
 
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RE: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

2002-02-21 Thread NewDisposal
It's funny to think that it takes 7 people to fill 1 man's shoes. 

Mr.Craig may have booked his 'buddies' for 2 years in a row, but it would 
only prove  that he was smart enough to make friends with the most innovative 
producers and performers in electronic music. Thank god Carl Craig did pull 
together people he knew - or we would have no DEMF!'

I don't believe that anyone has dogged on PCM's ability to put together a 
festival, however their abuse of power and privilege hasn't done much good 
for anyone. If Carl Craig got played by Carol Marvin, who is to say this old 
white lady isn't about to 'play' her new committee? It looks to me like this 
group of artists is more of a publicity move than much of an artistic 
endevour. Everyone, including the committee members, can believe that there 
are 7 detroit-related artists making sure things go right. 

There's nothing to stop Mrs.Marvin from doing what she did to Carl Craig to 
her new 'consultants' if they don't play by her rules.

I'll even say further that Pop Culture themselves has experience in 
organizing (or have been involved in) huge events and festivals in the 
past (i.e. as far as I know, the 'World Party' and the Jazz 
Festival) so 
that's the 'promoter' component there.  As if Carl had previous 
experience in putting together a huge festival on his own. To be quite 
frank, it seems to me alot of 'buddies' were picked to play 
the last two 
years.  

Flame, flame,

--G.

(Truth Be Told) wrote:

 Why would it be necessary to have promoters? Don't they 
bring in their 
 favorites anyway or do they bring in big names for a big payday? If 
 you look at the first statement if the Free Press article: A 
 seven-member board of longtime Detroit techno musicians will choose 
 the artist lineup... the panel is there only to choose the talent 
 they don't need to know how it works (festival 
producer/promoter = Pop 
 Culture Media). I would think that traveling and developing 
 relationships with other DJs/artists, they are more
 then qualified to choose a lineup. The fact there are 7 shows there 
 will be
 checks and balances where someone couldn't just bring in 
their buddies
 (perhaps as before). Plus, most of them have been around almost 20 
 years and
 know who was there from the start.
 I'm hopeful too that they'll produce a good lineup and keep 
the spirit
 alive.

 Truth

 I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it for myself...






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[313] isolee

2002-02-21 Thread philip

i forgot to ask before

what is the isolee CD like? i really like BMP

ta

p-dogg


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RE: [313] isolee

2002-02-21 Thread Batory, Jason
I guess you mean Isolee - Rest, on Playhouse. If so I'd say run, don't walk,
to your record store. If you know what I mean ;)

I can't wait to hear what he comes up with next.

Respect
JasonB

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 what is the isolee CD like? i really like BMP
 
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Re: [313] electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Data General
It's a good mixture of mostly old but some new.

I'm pretty sure there's an official list online somewhere.

some of the great tracks on there:

Pluton and Humanoids-World Invasion
A Number of Names -Sharivari
Alden Tyrell-Love Explosion
Charly-Spacerwoman
Alexander Robotnik Problems D'Amour
Klein and MBO Dirty Talk
???Robot is Systematic
Sun La Shan Catch
Q-The Voice of Q
Giorgio Moroder The Chase
Man Parrish Manmade

Not all Italian disco, though certainly leaning that way.

On the subject of that i-f mix, does anyone know if there are plans for
more panama records releases?


ben




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 funsters

 i am really digging the i-f mix up in the hague CD (thanx aly!) i am
 wondering if anyone can tell me where  when the tracks come from, most of
 them sound quite old but you never can tell sometimes.

 also here in oz the issue of XLR8 (not a bad mag - sure is a nice change
 from the UK press. funny to see full page ads for a stacey pullen tour...)
 that's just hit the shops (actually from nov 01) has a feature on
 contemporary electro artists like andrea parker, j saul kane  anthony
 rother. after hearing some stuff on mo wax i kinda lost interest in new
 electro cos it seemed kinda trip hoppy  missing all the things i liked
 about it, but but the stuff that on the i-f CD is lotsa fun. so feel free
 to recommend any other artists who might be making similarly cool stuff i
 might enjoy, thanx a bunch.

 spacerwoman by charly is so cool!

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Re: [313] electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread rob webb

Ben:


On the subject of that i-f mix, does anyone know if there are plans for
more panama records releases?


Volume 2 of Mixed Up In The Hague is due out round about now: 
http://www.hotmix.nl/panama.htm




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RE: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Actually, 'Afro-Germanic' came out '98 (on 'Interstellar Fugutives') ... Are
you currently listening to any German-made electro? What about Anthony
Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

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...hm, don´t know how many years ago it was

when you heard mo wax - electro ? :D

some of last years electro basics 4 me were:

chaos - afrogermanic  ? UR

of course Mr. Keith Tucker, Black Electric,  - Puzzlebox, direct beat,
Delsin ...

and overgalactical crazy deep electro stuff by Nubian Mindz

- check his LP on Archive ...   more on 2000black and drum n bass on
reinforced


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RE: [313] Alan Oldham's new comic book!

2002-02-21 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


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 Van: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a 
 new comic book 
 The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud
 
 
 i'm surprised it took this long for someone to mention 
 something on this 
 list (i was going to, but i'm lazy).

Okay now i am going to earn my 'shameless plug points', we DID mention it
weeks ago on this list. When we announced we uploaded an interview with Alan
about Orietta St. Cloud. So i am suprised you dudn't read that :)

oh yeah check: http://technotourist.org

or:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq
=viewarticleartid=7

So far my shameless-self-plug :)

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 the comic book isn't that bad at all.  The artwork is 
 FANTASTIC, and the 
 storyline is certainly above par.
 
 
 The soundtrack however, scares me.  Personally i already feel 
 its one of the 
 best releases of the year EASILY.  I don't know it is about 
 the opening jeff 
 mills track, but it gives me chills.  The whole cd does.  
 Brilliant job from 
 everyone.
 
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RE: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


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 Actually, 'Afro-Germanic' came out '98 (on 'Interstellar 
 Fugutives') ... Are
 you currently listening to any German-made electro? What about Anthony
 Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

But he did a lot of new stuff. Last year i bought his Little Computer People
album which i did like a lot. He also did some stuff for Sven Vath i think 

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 when you heard mo wax - electro ? :D
 
 some of last years electro basics 4 me were:
 
 chaos - afrogermanic  ? UR
 
 of course Mr. Keith Tucker, Black Electric,  - Puzzlebox, 
 direct beat,
 Delsin ...
 
 and overgalactical crazy deep electro stuff by Nubian Mindz
 
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2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Oh well, I may have to be rebaptized then, as I will admit to quite liking
'Sounds Control Your Mind' ('99?) - especially the dub  :-D

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 Actually, 'Afro-Germanic' came out '98 (on 'Interstellar
 Fugutives') ... Are
 you currently listening to any German-made electro? What about Anthony
 Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

But he did a lot of new stuff. Last year i bought his Little
Computer People
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 chaos - afrogermanic  ? UR
 
 of course Mr. Keith Tucker, Black Electric,  - Puzzlebox,
 direct beat,
 Delsin ...
 
 and overgalactical crazy deep electro stuff by Nubian Mindz
 
 - check his LP on Archive ...   more on 2000black and drum n bass on
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Re: [313] Carl Craig on Equinox

2002-02-21 Thread glyph1001
That has to be the same 'Wrap me in his arms' as 'Rap Me In Its Arms', 
the title I saw on a playlist recently on an old copy of one WDET Fast 
Forward Newsletter playlist, dated 12/07/90.


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ever made, thx to the heavenly voice of Sarah Gregory. been looking for this
track for years, a friend of mine paid about 65 $ for his copy of CAD004.

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I remember a Carl Craig track called Wrap me in his arms but
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RE: [313] isolee

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Dunno... I was a bit disappointed by it, in fact, partly because I was
expecting one hour of Beau mot rivage, partly because some tracks are
really lame, Computer for example. So, run, but ask to listen first...
Gwendal

 I guess you mean Isolee - Rest, on Playhouse. If so I'd say
 run, don't walk,
 to your record store. If you know what I mean ;)

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RE: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 But he did a lot of new stuff. Last year i bought his Little
 Computer People
 album which i did like a lot. He also did some stuff for Sven
 Vath i think
erm... got his Sex with the Machines EP, I was very disappointed... nothing
too innovative or ear-gripping

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[313] Ulrich Schnauss

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 On a similar tip, the Ulrich Schauss album on City Centre Offices is
 brilliant. Someone ought to use this in a film soundtrack!
absolutely... I'd be curious to know what people on this list think of it,
the reactions I got were either love it or hate it...
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Re: [313] Ulrich Schnauss

2002-02-21 Thread rob webb

Gwendal:


absolutely... I'd be curious to know what people on this list think of it,
the reactions I got were either love it or hate it...


at times the Ulrich Schnauss lp feels a bit formulaic and a bit polished, 
like a *really* skilled producer having a go at doing a downtempo 
electronica record... but i can't help liking it nonetheless and i've been 
playing it an awful lot since i picked it up back in December.  the melodies 
are a perfect example of the cute melancholic vibe that i'm a sucker for.  
on a similar(ish) tip is Christian Kleine - releases on City Centre Offices 
and Morr Music.  top notch stuff.


btw, Ulrich Schnauss is playing a one-off live set in Manchester this 
Sunday.  give Pelicanneck Records (www.pelicanneck.com) a shout for more 
info.




rob

ps: i know the above's not exactly 313... so, to compensate, a quick review 
of the new Drexciya lp - it's decent, but not outstanding.  7 1/2 out of 
10.



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[313] drexciya

2002-02-21 Thread alex.bond
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I must have missed this debate.

Do people not like the Drexciya 12/LP?
Two killer tracks on the 12 in my opinion, the LP is good too.

Anyone heard the new Rob Hood thing (12) not the floorplan one?
I thought that was the best thing from him in a while too.

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[313] Re: electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Sam Valenti IV
P,

A little self promo,

We are putting out a compilation, Tangent 2002: Disco Nouveau of new music
inspired by the Italo Disco sound (like that on Mixed Up) by artists like
Adult., DMX Krew, Ectomorph, Solvent, Daniel Wang, Lowfish, Susumu Yokota
and even I-F himself on March 26th.

Check www.ghostly.com or www.disconouveau.com for details...

Sincerely,

Sam Valenti IV
Ghostly International



i am really digging the i-f mix up in the hague CD (thanx aly!) i am
wondering if anyone can tell me where  when the tracks come from, most of
them sound quite old but you never can tell sometimes.

also here in oz the issue of XLR8 (not a bad mag - sure is a nice change
from the UK press. funny to see full page ads for a stacey pullen tour...)
that's just hit the shops (actually from nov 01) has a feature on
contemporary electro artists like andrea parker, j saul kane  anthony
rother. after hearing some stuff on mo wax i kinda lost interest in new
electro cos it seemed kinda trip hoppy  missing all the things i liked
about it, but but the stuff that on the i-f CD is lotsa fun. so feel free
to recommend any other artists who might be making similarly cool stuff i
might enjoy, thanx a bunch.

spacerwoman by charly is so cool!

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RE: [313] Ulrich Schnauss

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 at times the Ulrich Schnauss lp feels a bit formulaic and a
 bit polished,
 like a *really* skilled producer having a go at doing a downtempo
 electronica record... but i can't help liking it nonetheless
there's a certain naivety to the melodies though, so it doesn't feel that
polished, at least to my ears...

 and i've been
 playing it an awful lot since i picked it up back in
 December.  the melodies
 are a perfect example of the cute melancholic vibe that i'm a
 sucker for.
 on a similar(ish) tip is Christian Kleine - releases on City
 Centre Offices
 and Morr Music.  top notch stuff.
yup ! I've never been disappointed by any of those labels so far...

 btw, Ulrich Schnauss is playing a one-off live set in Manchester this
 Sunday.  give Pelicanneck Records (www.pelicanneck.com) a
 shout for more
 info.
that's quite a ong way from Paris, but thanks anyway ;-)

Gwendal


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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Mark S Flintoft
What about Anthony Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

He did 2 EPs as Family Lounge for Kanzleramt,  Get Pretty Baby and Still
Pretty Baby...I like 'em both.

I still find myself playing Redlight District a fair bit too...

Laters,

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RE: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Southern Outpost
On the topic of electro, I thought I might shamelessly plug our new ep
(on Southern Outpost).

Boogie Down Detroit Remixes ep, is out now at various stores worldwide.
Remixes by DJ K1, DJ Godfather and Strand (Brian Bonds  Kech). Lots of
crazt ass electro action! :)

Also, we have got DJ K1's first ep since his Direct Beat days coming out
early March. It's called From Detroit to the Outback and contains 6
tracks of K1's best! More info soon...

Peace,
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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Dennis DeSantis
 What about Anthony Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

 He did 2 EPs as Family Lounge for Kanzleramt,  Get Pretty Baby and Still
 Pretty Baby...I like 'em both.

He also released 4 EPs and 2 CDs of experimental remix stuff under the name
Psi Performer on the Kanzleramt sub-label k2o, as well as one big CD on
Kanzleramt under the same name.  The k2o website is still under construction
but you can get all the info (and sound clips) at www.kanzleramt.com.

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Re: [313] Drexciya

2002-02-21 Thread Otto

Rob Webb:

ps: i know the above's not exactly 313... so, to compensate,
a quick review of the new Drexciya lp - it's decent,
 but not outstanding.  7 1/2 out of 10.

I thought the same thing about the EP that preceded it, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
convinced me to give the album a good listen too. Listened to the A and 
B-side, not being blown away. Then put on the C1-track and think Ah! Now 
we're getting somewhere!, but one great track doesn't really make me buy a 
whole album.


Then I flip to the D-side. Start skipping through it. Jaw drops after the 
second skip. Realise that this track is too beautiful to skip through. Play 
it from beginning to end. Three times in a row. Undersea Disturbances: if 
this one doesn't end up in my end-of-year top 10, it will be a *very* good 
year indeed.


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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread alasdair.lyon
Anyone know any details about no. 9 Hypnosis ?

01. E.O.G - Solid liquid
02. Patrick Cowley - Primitive world
03. Pluton  Humanoids - World invasion
04. Giorgio Moroder - The Chase
05. Man Parrish - Manmade
06. Jonzun Crew - Space is the place
07. Charly - Spacerwoman
08. Q - The voice of Q
09. Hypnosis - Blade Runner (End title)
10. Message From the Future - Robot is systematic
11. Alden Tyrell - Love explosion
12. Kraftwerk - Tour de France
13. Camaro's Gang - Super shuffle
14. Alexander Robotnick - Problemes d'amour
15. Mr.Flagio - Take a chance
16. Klein  MBO - Dirty talk
17. B.W.H. - Living up
18. Doctor's Cat - Feel the drive
19. Sun la Shan - Catch
20. Electronome - Een drumcomputer en een synthesizer III
21. Electronome - Influence
22. A Number of Names - Sharivari


 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:10:46 -0500
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [313] Electro Stuff
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 philip, what you're really talking about with i-f's cd is italo 
 disco..(altho there is a very small amount of electro near the end i think)
 i'm sure 40 other people will be telling you in a moment :P
 
 ...it is indeed almost all old stuff, there used to be a tracklisting online 
 but i dunno where it is anymore. i havent listened to that mix in awhile but 
 i remember it had hipnosis, mr flagio, charly, Q, patrick cowley..doctor's 
 cat? somebody else will know.
 
 you should really check out i-f's own music as parallax corp as well.
 and if you buy vinyl a lot of the stuff going on on the labels distributed 
 by clone http://clone.nl (especially viewlexx, bunker, creme, clone...)
 
 specific reccomendations could go on and on...i-f's mixes are a good place 
 to start tho, he has new ones posted regularly (usually linked via clone, 
 also check mixnet via http://www.hotmix.nl), also check tlr's mixes on 
 global darkness (http://www.globaldarkness.com)
 
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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread robin pinning

 Anyone know any details about no. 9 Hypnosis ?


only that i've heard it on two separate 12s recently. it's on Memory Boy's
No Electricity 12, and one of the Club Classics 12s that's around, these
also contain other tracks from the list below too

cheers

robin...

 01. E.O.G - Solid liquid
 02. Patrick Cowley - Primitive world
 03. Pluton  Humanoids - World invasion
 04. Giorgio Moroder - The Chase
 05. Man Parrish - Manmade
 06. Jonzun Crew - Space is the place
 07. Charly - Spacerwoman
 08. Q - The voice of Q
 09. Hypnosis - Blade Runner (End title)
 10. Message From the Future - Robot is systematic
 11. Alden Tyrell - Love explosion
 12. Kraftwerk - Tour de France
 13. Camaro's Gang - Super shuffle
 14. Alexander Robotnick - Problemes d'amour
 15. Mr.Flagio - Take a chance
 16. Klein  MBO - Dirty talk
 17. B.W.H. - Living up
 18. Doctor's Cat - Feel the drive
 19. Sun la Shan - Catch
 20. Electronome - Een drumcomputer en een synthesizer III
 21. Electronome - Influence
 22. A Number of Names - Sharivari


  Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:10:46 -0500
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [313] Electro Stuff
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  philip, what you're really talking about with i-f's cd is italo
  disco..(altho there is a very small amount of electro near the end i think)
  i'm sure 40 other people will be telling you in a moment :P
 
  ...it is indeed almost all old stuff, there used to be a tracklisting online
  but i dunno where it is anymore. i havent listened to that mix in awhile but
  i remember it had hipnosis, mr flagio, charly, Q, patrick cowley..doctor's
  cat? somebody else will know.
 
  you should really check out i-f's own music as parallax corp as well.
  and if you buy vinyl a lot of the stuff going on on the labels distributed
  by clone http://clone.nl (especially viewlexx, bunker, creme, clone...)
 
  specific reccomendations could go on and on...i-f's mixes are a good place
  to start tho, he has new ones posted regularly (usually linked via clone,
  also check mixnet via http://www.hotmix.nl), also check tlr's mixes on
  global darkness (http://www.globaldarkness.com)
 
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Re: [313] Ulrich Schnauss

2002-02-21 Thread The Deliverator
It's one of my favorite cd's of the year.  It hasn't left my cd changer in
over 2.5 months.  Love it.  Buy it :-)

jim

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Subject: [313] Ulrich Schnauss


  On a similar tip, the Ulrich Schauss album on City Centre Offices is
  brilliant. Someone ought to use this in a film soundtrack!
 absolutely... I'd be curious to know what people on this list think of it,
 the reactions I got were either love it or hate it...
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RE: [313] Drexciya

2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
It creeps up on you doesn't it? But (as always with my pet music) I try to
like it more, with not quite satisfactory results ... I speculated that with
Harnessed The Storm (what's that title about btw?!) on the heels of two
very strong side-projects, that the pair might simply have exhausted their
good material ... what do you think? Especially given rumors of a split.

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya


Rob Webb:

 ps: i know the above's not exactly 313... so, to compensate,
 a quick review of the new Drexciya lp - it's decent,
  but not outstanding.  7 1/2 out of 10.

I thought the same thing about the EP that preceded it, but [EMAIL PROTECTED]
convinced me to give the album a good listen too. Listened to the A and
B-side, not being blown away. Then put on the C1-track and think Ah! Now
we're getting somewhere!, but one great track doesn't really make
me buy a
whole album.

Then I flip to the D-side. Start skipping through it. Jaw drops after the
second skip. Realise that this track is too beautiful to skip
through. Play
it from beginning to end. Three times in a row. Undersea
Disturbances: if
this one doesn't end up in my end-of-year top 10, it will be a *very* good
year indeed.

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Mario Atienza

 He also released One album under the name Litte Computer People - Electro 
Pop (2001) for label Psi49net
 
 
 
  Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:  What about Anthony Rother? I 
haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

 He did 2 EPs as Family Lounge for Kanzleramt, Get Pretty Baby and Still
 Pretty Baby...I like 'em both.

He also released 4 EPs and 2 CDs of experimental remix stuff under the name
Psi Performer on the Kanzleramt sub-label k2o, as well as one big CD on
Kanzleramt under the same name. The k2o website is still under construction
but you can get all the info (and sound clips) at www.kanzleramt.com.

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread robin pinning


  He also released One album under the name Litte Computer People -
Electro Pop (2001) for label Psi49net

which is a very strong releasethe funny thing with rother is that i
think he's production is amazing (punchy, bassy without sounding
overproduced) but his song construction skills sometimes lets that
production down.


a question: i've heard a version of redlight district that is different to
the one i have on the ep. anyone know if this is a new thing not yet
released (i'm taking about the mix that appears on dave clarkes world
service cd), or i'm missing something?

ta

robin...


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Re: [313] kms afterparty (was Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313)

2002-02-21 Thread Cyclone Wehner

Carl Cox didn't show because of sickness and Derrick came on and played what
he says was the best party since his old MI days in the back. He did the
lights and blacked out the room and played this remix of The Climax with the
poetry - off the hook. Herdest played real nice in the front, as did Gene,
and Kevin played briefly. Derrick's set definitely made up for the rained
out festival, it was very special.

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 1:31 PM


 I was at the KMS party.  The highlight of the festival for me personally,
 I guess.  But that lineup isn't right...I arrived around 2am and D-wynn
 was on...Doc Martin followed, and then Master Reese...Derrick May played
 last.  Not sure about the lineup in the front as I was enthralled in the
 back all night, but I know that Gene Farris played in there.

 Coxy wasn't around.  Wasn't he supposed to be sick? Jim Masters came
 through though - he was stumbling around on the dancefloor for awhile
 trying to pick up ladies.

 The Works was serving a mean cranberry juice with extra ice until
 7am.  Is this normal in the D?

 -Eli

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:51:36PM -0500, Matthew L. Thompson wrote:
 I had wanted to go to the KMS afterparty last year at The Works... my
 schedule did not allow for that, unfortunately.  I think tickets for that
 were pretty reasonable, something like $15 at the KMS booth at DEMF, and $20
 at the door.  That included Kevin Saunderson, D. Wynn, Herdest Cummings, and
 Carl Cox (who sicked out on the DEMF but managed to make it to the
 afterparty, I heard).  I don't know who was charging so much, but you
 wouldn't have seen me at any of the high dollar afterparties.

 In regards to streaming the sets over the web from the stages, didn't
 Groovetech provide a live feed and/or an archive of the sets as well?  Or
 maybe that was just for the first DEMF, I'm not sure.  I don't think they
 are around anymore, so it's anyone's guess as to who might handle it this
 year.  KMS Productions has a nice streaming broadband audio/video feed of
 the Monday evening set with Inner City, Juan Atkins, and I also believe
 Derrick May (before the hailstones hit) on their site at kmsproductions.com.

 Matt
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  Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:22:25
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  Subject: RE: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313
 
  Well i agree about the recording,, like i said i can't believe no one got
  Jay's set on tape or c.d., not even him. I've checked.
  But $200 for the after parties I spent about $60 last year on after
  parties and even though I missed one night of them, I can't believe I
  would've spent $140 more that night.
 
  Unless of course someone party hops to 3 or 4 a night and then I don't see
  how you would really enjoy the parties anyway? I thought the after parties
  were priced reasonably. Although I did have to pick and choose.



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[313] What's On The Sonar?

2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
The money-go-round leading up to DEMF is almost as entertaining as the event
itself (I hope) will be, although, I've yet to decide definitively to go
 but someone reminded me the other day that there is in fact a more
established festival of future dance music right here in Europe - Sonar. I
Always get great reports back from it - and I believe it hosts quite a
number of 313 and related artists ... so, anyone got details on this year's
event (if it's happening)?

Also, I have a comp sort of tied to the '99 event - anyone know whether
there was one for the years '00, '01?

Mucha gracias,

Ken

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Re: [313] What's On The Sonar?

2002-02-21 Thread Nic . Larsen

On 21/02/2002 12:48:42 Odeluga, Ken wrote:
 The money-go-round leading up to DEMF is almost as entertaining as the event
 itself (I hope) will be, although, I've yet to decide definitively to go
  but someone reminded me the other day that there is in fact a more
 established festival of future dance music right here in Europe - Sonar. I
 Always get great reports back from it - and I believe it hosts quite a
 number of 313 and related artists ... so, anyone got details on this year's
 event (if it's happening)?

 Also, I have a comp sort of tied to the '99 event - anyone know whether
 there was one for the years '00, '01?

yeah, I just got the '01 double CD.. One CD is Sonar by day one is Sonar by 
night.. CD1 features Jazzanova, Sigur Ros, Isolee. etc (this is from memory so 
pls forgive mistakes/exclusions) and the night CD features more techy business, 
Mills, Circulation, Luomo..all in all a nice collection of tracks, only 
criticism is that the 2nd (night) CD has a couple too many straight forward 
club tracks which don't necessarily work too well unmixed, but obviously these 
CD's feature artists who played Sonar.

http://www.sonar.es

doesn't seem to be a tracklisting on the Sonar site, but there's one here: 
http://cdnow.com/from=cr-1743275/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/popsearch.html/index=t/string=2001_SONAR_

cheers,
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Re: [313] What's On The Sonar?

2002-02-21 Thread Mario Atienza

 Hey Ken
About Sonar no detail still on the programming, only sure the days of festival 
13,14 and 15 of June.
Sonar is a big festival but I think it has a problem, Jeff MIlls spins all the 
years but Derrick May was never, probably he is not of the pleasure of the 
direction
Mario
 
 
 
 
  Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: The money-go-round leading up to 
DEMF is almost as entertaining as the event
itself (I hope) will be, although, I've yet to decide definitively to go
 but someone reminded me the other day that there is in fact a more
established festival of future dance music right here in Europe - Sonar. I
Always get great reports back from it - and I believe it hosts quite a
number of 313 and related artists ... so, anyone got details on this year's
event (if it's happening)?

Also, I have a comp sort of tied to the '99 event - anyone know whether
there was one for the years '00, '01?

Mucha gracias,

Ken

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread neontsetse
electro-germs - 

yeah I´m down with lots of Rother stuff

and I did like having sex with the machines - 

- the record of course :)

then from around this area - Rhein-Main-Delta - Deltatronix - 

there´s Redagain P - also done some serious stuff - 

http://www.starschnitt.com

got some sounfiles there - but don´t hang on the first one - 

was supposed to become sold :D ) 

What I like about Rother and Redagain, is that they do remember 

how abstract, deep ... the soundscapes and patterns ever might go  

the frequencys should work on your body 

electro boogie 

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Re: [313] electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Phonopsia
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 It's a good mixture of mostly old but some new.

 I'm pretty sure there's an official list online somewhere.

 some of the great tracks on there:

 Pluton and Humanoids-World Invasion
 A Number of Names -Sharivari
 Alden Tyrell-Love Explosion
 Charly-Spacerwoman
 Alexander Robotnik Problems D'Amour
 Klein and MBO Dirty Talk
 ???Robot is Systematic
 Sun La Shan Catch
 Q-The Voice of Q

Can anyone tell me if this track is the same as the track that comes in at
around 2:22:13 in Mike Clark's 10/7/99 set on the Betalounge? It has a Dr.
Who-ish sine-wave melody leading into a vocodered vocal that I always
thought said this is the voice of change, what you got to do, open your
mind and listen, be prepared to receive transmission. Now I'm thinking it
could be the voice of Q, rather than the voice of change. Could this
finally be it??? I've been trying to have this porperly betaspotted for over
2 years now. :)

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[313] Dark NRG

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
And now for something completely on-topic... I'm currently listening to the
Aztec Mystic mix CD ; track 11 is by Dark NRG, who I've never heard of...
and it's a really brilliant track too ! what label is this guy on ? any
recommended releases ? is that someone better known under another name ?
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[313] Amsterdam

2002-02-21 Thread Alice Smith
Does anyone know of anything loosely 313 related going on in Amsterdam 
between 6th - 9th March?


Thanks
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Re: [313] electro stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Sean Creen


Phonopsia wrote:

  It has a Dr.
 Who-ish sine-wave melody leading into a vocodered vocal that I always
 thought said this is the voice of change, what you got to do, open your
 mind and listen, be prepared to receive transmission. Now I'm thinking it
 could be the voice of Q, rather than the voice of change. Could this
 finally be it??? I've been trying to have this porperly betaspotted for over
 2 years now. :)


Sounds like it! - good luck trying to find it though - I've been searching for
years with no luck :-(

Sean.




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Re: [313] Amsterdam

2002-02-21 Thread Otto

At 01:44 PM 2/21/02 +, you wrote:
Does anyone know of anything loosely 313 related going on in Amsterdam 
between 6th - 9th March?


Recloose and Ayro in Paradiso on Friday the 8th 
(http://www.rushhour.nl/events.html)
And if you want to make the 1-hour traintrip down to Rotterdam, on Sat. the 
9th, Aril Brikha is doing a liveset in Off-Corso. First time I'll see him 
live, so I'm really looking forward to that!


Otto


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[313] time and space...everything...is a product of the black dog

2002-02-21 Thread James David Beard
I'm sorry you haven't liked more recent BDP. I really think 
you should listen to Ken's deeply again. He's kept things 
on a mystical vibe that Plaid as a duo have largely 
abandoned. Check out the live in toronto tape for a glimpse 
of Black Dog solo, shouldn't be too hard to find if you 
look. \
...also www.dogsquad.com  -- there's forums and a chat room 
now. dope

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#I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one 
#of the original 3 members 
#(Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching 
#the original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember 
#Virtual)since the other 2 members split 
#and started Plaid.

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Sean Creen


robin pinning wrote:

 a question: i've heard a version of redlight district that is different to
 the one i have on the ep. anyone know if this is a new thing not yet
 released (i'm taking about the mix that appears on dave clarkes world
 service cd), or i'm missing something?


There are 2 mixes of Redlight District on the ep. I think Dave Clarke plays
the second one on that CD mix. There's actually a pretty good selection of
stuff on the electro CD of the WorldService pack. which just about makes up
for the appalling techno one...

Sean.




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[313] info/tracklisting

2002-02-21 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Hi,
I got my hands on cd by Surgeon called
´Counterbalance Collection´. I think
it´s mix of all his counterbalance releases?
Anybody any info/trakclisting on this?
Thanx
Martijn



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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread rob webb

Robin:


a question: i've heard a version of redlight district that is different to
the one i have on the ep. anyone know if this is a new thing not yet
released (i'm taking about the mix that appears on dave clarkes world
service cd), or i'm missing something?


Redlight District was originally on the The Dark Side of the Sword, 
Volume 2 compilation 12 on Plasmek... tho i dunno if that mix is different 
to either of the ones on the Elektrolux 12 or the one on World Service.




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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Benn Glazier

At 11:18 21/02/2002 +, you wrote:

Anyone know any details about no. 9 Hypnosis ?

09. Hypnosis - Blade Runner (End title)


Early 80s Italian band which produced synthetic disco for want of a better 
term.  Don't know a hell of a lot to be honest.




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[313] New Electronica

2002-02-21 Thread Simon Dyke
Hello, thought I would come out of the shadows for some of your intellect.

Just seen a 2 New Electronica CD's I have never seen before.

The first had tracks by Kosmic Messanger ('Soundscape'), X-103 ('Rave new
nation'), and a 3 MB ('Kosh Ker...' - some german title).

The second I had only heard of UR ('Final Frontier') - which is classic, but
I have it already - but from my brief look did not recognise instantly any
of the other artists - but both seemed to be RS related and have European
producers.

Does anyone have these CD's? Are these good tracks, or will these CDs simply
fade into my collection?

Also, have seen Domu 'Up and down'  written about before on the list -
briefly,what sort of music should I expect and is he similar to any other
artists?

Any help will be gratefully received.
Thanks
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[313] Larry Heard/Metro Area 2

2002-02-21 Thread Jonny McIntosh
When I was in Vinyl Junkies (www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk) on Sunday I saw that
they've got repressings of Metro Area 2 in stock. They're doing the
(European?) distribution for Environ these days so usually have a lot of the
stuff in stock. Also, I've got to recommend Larry Heard's own mix of his
Praise on the new limited Track Mode 12 - as deep as the Jack Trax era
Fingers Inc stuff! Jump to it. Other stuff of note included a Ron Trent
compilation - is there a mix CD that accompanies this maybe?

Any other recent release recommendations? I want to know what I'm missing
out on whilst in abject poverty.



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[313] counterbalance. - RE: [313] info/tracklisting

2002-02-21 Thread Anya
It's a quite nice mix of counterbalance releases iirc. : )
Haven't got the cd here at work so no tracklisting right
now I'm afraid (tomorrow?).
Also, you might want to check out
http://www.discogs.com/label/Counterbalance
http://www.dj-surgeon.com
Cheers,

Anya

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 Hi,
 I got my hands on cd by Surgeon called
 ´Counterbalance Collection´. I think
 it´s mix of all his counterbalance releases?
 Anybody any info/trakclisting on this?
 Thanx
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[313] dan bell - in the park

2002-02-21 Thread Neil Wallace

anyone know any details about when/where this was released and if it is
still available - it is a nice downtempo track with a vocal saying flowers
and bees and birds and trees

cheers

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RE: [313] Dark NRG

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
The MIA track is excellent too ... what label ? etc...
Gwendal

 And now for something completely on-topic... I'm currently 
 listening to the
 Aztec Mystic mix CD ; track 11 is by Dark NRG, who I've 
 never heard of...
 and it's a really brilliant track too ! what label is this 
 guy on ? any
 recommended releases ? is that someone better known under 
 another name ?

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Re: [313] counterbalance. - RE: [313] info/tracklisting

2002-02-21 Thread Sean Creen


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 Also, you might want to check out

 http://www.dj-surgeon.com

...where you will also see a recent Surgeon biography written by me :-)

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Re: [313] New Electronica

2002-02-21 Thread Benn Glazier

Classic compilations.

From memory it has Kosmic Messenger, Planetary (Dan Curtin), HMC, X-101, 
The Source and 3MB with Juan Atkins (Die Kosmischen Kuriere is how you 
spell it).


The 3MB/Juan Atkins joint is a classic, from the Jazz Is The Teacher album 
on Tresor.


The HMC track was on Secret Weapon 1 - Australian made, well out of print 
and never to be seen again


Rave New World by X-101 was on the flip to Sonic Destroyer.  Memory is 
failing me here, but is the the track with the 'vroom' like sound?


The second one you mention has more tasty tunes.

Cusp (from memory this is Mark Gage) with his track Drone Um Futurisma 
which appeared on Probe.


Others include another Nico track, CJ Bolland (before he turned to shite), 
the brilliant Maurizio mix of Lyot by Vainqueur.  As you mentioned 'Final 
Frontier' by Mad Mike, a track by Separate Minds and another by Air Liquide 
which never really did it for me.



Personally, my fave New Electronica comps are Florence's Dominions,  the 
EevoLute Agend 22' compilation (23 is pretty good as well), and Objets 
D'Art which features tracks by Carl Craig, Kirk De Giorgio, Black Dog and 
so on - actually if anyone can help me out with a repress of this it would 
be appreciated at CD 2 is scratched to death.



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At 14:14 21/02/2002 +, you wrote:

Hello, thought I would come out of the shadows for some of your intellect.

Just seen a 2 New Electronica CD's I have never seen before.

The first had tracks by Kosmic Messanger ('Soundscape'), X-103 ('Rave new
nation'), and a 3 MB ('Kosh Ker...' - some german title).

The second I had only heard of UR ('Final Frontier') - which is classic, but
I have it already - but from my brief look did not recognise instantly any
of the other artists - but both seemed to be RS related and have European
producers.

Does anyone have these CD's? Are these good tracks, or will these CDs simply
fade into my collection?

Also, have seen Domu 'Up and down'  written about before on the list -
briefly,what sort of music should I expect and is he similar to any other
artists?

Any help will be gratefully received.
Thanks
Si



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Re: [313] What's On The Sonar?

2002-02-21 Thread Gary_Girard

I had a great time at Sonar last year and will be booking my tickets soon
for a return this year. It's a great way to chill in the day with the
beautiful weather, quality down tempo music and a cold beer =). Then at
night time it's time for the full on Techno assault with the likes of
Mills, Umek  Hawtin.

I recommend it!


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RE: [313] Dark NRG

2002-02-21 Thread Benn Glazier
The only MIA track I've seen was on UR - Schoolcraft Bump / Mississippi 
Mutants (UR-018).


Dark Energy is the name of a Sub. Knight double EP.


r./

At 15:15 21/02/2002 +0100, you wrote:

The MIA track is excellent too ... what label ? etc...
Gwendal

 And now for something completely on-topic... I'm currently
 listening to the
 Aztec Mystic mix CD ; track 11 is by Dark NRG, who I've
 never heard of...
 and it's a really brilliant track too ! what label is this
 guy on ? any
 recommended releases ? is that someone better known under
 another name ?

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RE: [313] dan bell - in the park

2002-02-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like more info on this release as well.  On a broader scale, what is Dan 
Bell up to these days?  Last time I saw Theo Parrish he mentioned Dan was 
living in Germany, is this still the case?

dK


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anyone know any details about when/where this was released and if it is
still available - it is a nice downtempo track with a vocal saying flowers
and bees and birds and trees

cheers

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[313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread neontsetse
BDP - lol for black dog - 

but BDP was big b4 black dog :D 

(oh what about the relation between big black, äh no, meaning black flag,  

Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ? - and how
?

was there a deeper idea of movement and what was it, if ) 

anyway, I also remember some disses here in the past bout hip hop 

-tsss  

who´s ready 4 dissing hip hop ? and what are the reasons? 

hey, no one did see all the detail mistakes I done b4  ? - interesting :D 

but also wanted to take the chance 

to give some serious props back to Notingham and sunglasses-partys 

but damnit, I really hope you also do wear them at nite 

b4 for the current neon-wave-colour-fashion kills your eyes - :D 

No, I was not wanting to attack this party or your activities on a serious
level 

needed to say this again - yes house that body all night long 

m 

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[313] :TEMPO_01:REMINDER:CLEVELAND

2002-02-21 Thread Greg::Malcolm .

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P: 216.421.8671 http://www.contemporaryart.org


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international techno and tech-house scenes. Todd was a featured performer at 
last years DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL, and a founding member of the 
now legendary ELE_MENTAL crew.


GEOFF WHITE///Live Tech-House///Geoff is a rapidly rising star in tech-house 
circles, with an acclaimed full-length release on Germany’s highly regarded 
FORCE INC, and appearances on TIGERBEAT6, MILLE PLATEAUX, and upcoming on 
CYTRAX the hype is well deserved.


TWINE///Abstract IDM Beats and Soundscapes///Releases on HEFTY, BIP-HOP and 
KOMPLOTT records, Twine is a well respected member of the international IDM 
community of artists and will be a featured performer at this years KRAAK3 
FESTIVAL in Gent Belgium, and Detroit’s IMMEDIA DIGITAL ARTS FESTIVAL.


JOSHUA TREBLE/// Ambient Minimal Techno///The brand of warm, ambient minimal 
techno that is J Treble’s specialty has been compared to his pals MITCHELL 
AKIYAMA and ACCELERA DECK.  With releases on PITCHCADET, AiiFM, and 
INTR_VERSION, keep your eye on this talented electronic musician.


XANOPTICON///Drill and Bass/Breakcore///Hectic, broken, fluid and beautiful 
are four key words to describe Xanopticon’s live sets.  Another new comer 
Xanopticon is rapidly gaining notice with his fresh take on the breakcore 
sound, keep on the lookout for his TIGERBEAT6 debut.




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also a featured performer at this years KRAAK3 FESTIVAL in Gent Belgium, and 
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Re: [313] Larry Heard/Metro Area 2

2002-02-21 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Yes - to answer my own question - Musical Reflections.

 Other stuff of note included a Ron Trent
 compilation - is there a mix CD that accompanies this maybe?


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Re: [313] New Electronica

2002-02-21 Thread Berislav

 The 3MB/Juan Atkins joint is a classic, from the Jazz Is The Teacher album
 on Tresor.

 i beleive , that album on tresor dont have name, its just 3mb feat. magic
Juan Atkins, and its not to much to know, that names of mortiz von oswald
and thomas fehllman are involved in that



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[313] rob hood - in the park

2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
You need someone with a better memory than me my friend, but I have the
compilation this came on. Vinyl sleeve is a black/white design of quite a
menacing robotic figure, belying the mostly sweet grooves to be had within
...there's a Stacey Pullen thing on there called 'Graffiti's Theme' which
(imho - that phrase gets a man off any statement) he hasn't bettered ...

I think the label is either Subjective or Subvoice - I know it's Japanese.
The project had some ace liner notes and to me ranks as the last great
Detroit all round compilation, albeit of artists (inc, Hood, Shake, Kenny
Larkin, Eddie Fowlkes, Thom Barnett) doing breaks and hip hop rather than
their traditional stuff. Hunt it down, it is sublime  I will have to dig
it out tonight and implant it in my memory - I am dumb as f'~*.

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I'd like more info on this release as well.  On a broader scale,
what is Dan Bell up to these days?  Last time I saw Theo Parrish
he mentioned Dan was living in Germany, is this still the case?

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Re: [313] Larry Heard/Metro Area 2

2002-02-21 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Hear, hear.

That Larry Heard dub of praise is excellent, really good.
Also on that tip - Donnie Tempo EP on Alleviated is a belter too.

On the Metro Area, Vinyl Junkies also has Metro Area 1 still in stock,
which I didn't have, mine arrived this morning!




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When I was in Vinyl Junkies (www.vinyl-junkies.co.uk) on Sunday I saw that
they've got repressings of Metro Area 2 in stock. They're doing the
(European?) distribution for Environ these days so usually have a lot of
the
stuff in stock. Also, I've got to recommend Larry Heard's own mix of his
Praise on the new limited Track Mode 12 - as deep as the Jack Trax era
Fingers Inc stuff! Jump to it. Other stuff of note included a Ron Trent
compilation - is there a mix CD that accompanies this maybe?

Any other recent release recommendations? I want to know what I'm missing
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RE: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread Neil Wallace

eh?
im sorry i do not understand what you are on about - but i think there may
be some confusion the BDP talked about on the list recently in Black Dog
Productions not Boogie Down Productions and hence is not hip-hop

neil

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:BDP - lol for black dog -
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:but BDP was big b4 black dog :D
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:(oh what about the relation between big black, äh no, meaning black flag,
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:Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ?
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:was there a deeper idea of movement and what was it, if )
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:anyway, I also remember some disses here in the past bout hip hop
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:-tsss
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:who´s ready 4 dissing hip hop ? and what are the reasons?
:
:hey, no one did see all the detail mistakes I done b4  ? - interesting :D
:
:but also wanted to take the chance
:
:to give some serious props back to Notingham and sunglasses-partys
:
:but damnit, I really hope you also do wear them at nite
:
:b4 for the current neon-wave-colour-fashion kills your eyes - :D
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:No, I was not wanting to attack this party or your activities on a serious
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:needed to say this again - yes house that body all night long
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Re: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread stewart
Thers a sunglass party scene in Nottingham??? Man, I'm there :)

Seriously though, is it just me or does this guy know how to avoid any kind of 
cohesive point to his posts?


 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu 21/Feb/2002 15:40 CET
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks
 
 BDP - lol for black dog - 
 
 but BDP was big b4 black dog :D 
 
 (oh what about the relation between big black, äh no, meaning black flag,  
 
 Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ? - and how
 ?
 
 was there a deeper idea of movement and what was it, if ) 
 
 anyway, I also remember some disses here in the past bout hip hop 
 
 -tsss  
 
 who´s ready 4 dissing hip hop ? and what are the reasons? 
 
 hey, no one did see all the detail mistakes I done b4  ? - interesting :D 
 
 but also wanted to take the chance 
 
 to give some serious props back to Notingham and sunglasses-partys 
 
 but damnit, I really hope you also do wear them at nite 
 
 b4 for the current neon-wave-colour-fashion kills your eyes - :D 
 
 No, I was not wanting to attack this party or your activities on a serious
 level 
 
 needed to say this again - yes house that body all night long 
 
 m 
 
 planetz2002
 
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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

He also did Biomechanic recently (within the past year?) which was very
cool elektro bit like Simulizationalter which I think is fantastic.

MEK




   
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 What about Anthony Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000
...

 He did 2 EPs as Family Lounge for Kanzleramt,  Get Pretty Baby and Still
 Pretty Baby...I like 'em both.

He also released 4 EPs and 2 CDs of experimental remix stuff under the name
Psi Performer on the Kanzleramt sub-label k2o, as well as one big CD on
Kanzleramt under the same name.  The k2o website is still under
construction
but you can get all the info (and sound clips) at www.kanzleramt.com.

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Re: [313] Larry Heard/Metro Area 2

2002-02-21 Thread Jason Brunton
 
 Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
 
  Start of message text 
 
 Hear, hear.
 
 That Larry Heard dub of praise is excellent, really good.
 Also on that tip - Donnie Tempo EP on Alleviated is a belter too.

I'll second that- Marsel played it last night at Café Vaghuzen- damn fine
music

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Re: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread robin pinning

 Thers a sunglass party scene in Nottingham??? Man, I'm there :)

 Seriously though, is it just me or does this guy know how to avoid any
kind of cohesive point to his posts?


it's not just you.we've all noticed it...

:)

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Psi49net is the label he runs - http://www.psi49net.de/

MEK




   
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 He also released One album under the name Litte Computer People - Electro
Pop (2001) for label Psi49net



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Anthony Rother? I haven't heard anything of him since 2000 ...

 He did 2 EPs as Family Lounge for Kanzleramt, Get Pretty Baby and Still
 Pretty Baby...I like 'em both.

He also released 4 EPs and 2 CDs of experimental remix stuff under the name
Psi Performer on the Kanzleramt sub-label k2o, as well as one big CD on
Kanzleramt under the same name. The k2o website is still under construction
but you can get all the info (and sound clips) at www.kanzleramt.com.

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Re: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread Jason Brunton
 Thers a sunglass party scene in Nottingham??? Man, I'm there :)
 
 Seriously though, is it just me or does this guy know how to avoid any kind of
 cohesive point to his posts?
 
 
I'm beginning to think it might all be a well thought out wind-up

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RE: [313] rob hood - in the park

2002-02-21 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
I have this comp. as well! it was
given to me as a present and in the
beginning i found it rather boring
but after listening to it a few times
i became better and better..still is!
Very groovy and fonky stuff..
M.

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Onderwerp: [313] rob hood - in the park


You need someone with a better memory than me my friend, but I have the
compilation this came on. Vinyl sleeve is a black/white design of quite a
menacing robotic figure, belying the mostly sweet grooves to be had within
...there's a Stacey Pullen thing on there called 'Graffiti's Theme' which
(imho - that phrase gets a man off any statement) he hasn't bettered ...

I think the label is either Subjective or Subvoice - I know it's Japanese.
The project had some ace liner notes and to me ranks as the last great
Detroit all round compilation, albeit of artists (inc, Hood, Shake, Kenny
Larkin, Eddie Fowlkes, Thom Barnett) doing breaks and hip hop rather than
their traditional stuff. Hunt it down, it is sublime  I will have to dig
it out tonight and implant it in my memory - I am dumb as f'~*.

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Subject: RE: [313] dan bell - in the park


I'd like more info on this release as well.  On a broader scale,
what is Dan Bell up to these days?  Last time I saw Theo Parrish
he mentioned Dan was living in Germany, is this still the case?

dK

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RE: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread John Bush
 :BDP - lol for black dog -
 :
 :but BDP was big b4 black dog :D

Did anyone else confuse BOC for Blue Oyster Cult like I did?  It took me a
week to realize people were talking about Boards of Canada!

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Re: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread neontsetse
just - 

pick up the flow 

m
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 Thers a sunglass party scene in Nottingham??? Man, I'm there :)
 
 Seriously though, is it just me or does this guy know how to avoid any
kind of
 cohesive point to his posts?
 
 
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[313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread Dan Sicko

Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ? - and how


did what? hip-hop? Mojo got into it for a bit, but it didn't dominate
his show ... Don't think he ever played Boogie Down Productions
though, if that's what you're asking.  :)



who´s ready 4 dissing hip hop ? and what are the reasons?


Well dissing the whole genre would be silly ... though one might feel
the need given Chuck D's old quote about house music.  What was it?
That it was bougie music for f*ggots ???  I can't remember
exactly.

It was something incendiary like that he said early on in P.E.'s career.

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Re: [313] Rother...

2002-02-21 Thread Samu Eilola


did anyone mention PSI Performer ?
Art is a Division of Pain was the title of this 
dark moody ambientlike douplepack masterpice.
And the remixes on K20 are also worth checking.



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[313] Charles Siegling

2002-02-21 Thread Gary_Girard



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Can anyone tell me what to expect from a Charles Siegling DJ set? What's
his mixing like? Is his style similar to Technasia?
I can't listen to sets on websites due to no sound at work. Any info would
be much appreciated.

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Re: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks

2002-02-21 Thread stewart
I remember seeing Public Enemy play live with Run DMC on thier Nation of 
Millions tour and Chuck D gave house music a good slagging off on stage then, 
this must have been 1988/89, sometime around then.
Damn good show though :)


 
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 Date: Thu 21/Feb/2002 15:55 CET
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks
 
 Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ? - and how
 
 did what? hip-hop? Mojo got into it for a bit, but it didn't dominate
 his show ... Don't think he ever played Boogie Down Productions
 though, if that's what you're asking.  :)
 
 
 who´s ready 4 dissing hip hop ? and what are the reasons?
 
 Well dissing the whole genre would be silly ... though one might feel
 the need given Chuck D's old quote about house music.  What was it?
 That it was bougie music for f*ggots ???  I can't remember
 exactly.
 
 It was something incendiary like that he said early on in P.E.'s career.
 
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Re: [313] Charles Siegling

2002-02-21 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It's very different to Technasia's music. It's more straight-up bangin' tech
and actually I guess Technasia are infinitely better as producers than DJs -
which in itself is not a bad thing. I missed his gigs here as they were too
far out of town and I'm a stuck up city girl, but that was the
predominant/consistent feedback I heard from the public and the promoter's
camp. They had a mix CD out lately.


 Can anyone tell me what to expect from a Charles Siegling DJ set? What's
 his mixing like? Is his style similar to Technasia?
 I can't listen to sets on websites due to no sound at work. Any info would
 be much appreciated.

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[313] Re: it takes a millions of questions

2002-02-21 Thread neontsetse
that sunglasses at night party was also listing - Mantronix ?

They´ve been a mix of housyness, rap, electro etc... 

and hey don´t you 4-get I´ll house you - hip house

or were most of you only into ebm and new wave at that time ? :D 

another question would be - 

Detroit-techno influences on current - RnB - so much great music happening
there 

- are there any official quotes on that or interviews? 

are there more detroit-techno producers doing tracks 

at the moment as close to current RnB as Robert Hoods 

key to midnight was  ? - need to have it -

-nighttime world 2 - is still my fave record of the last years 

if any one did read this posting - till this point - interesting isn´t it ?

 :D 

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[313] When going to Sonar remember this....

2002-02-21 Thread bart wolff
Sonar is really a thing to concider. The weather is mostly great, Barcelona 
is a great city and the music is fun (and the food is good...).
There is only one big but...the festival is growing and growing and 
growingI have been there last year, and the year before and last year 
the 'magic' at night was all lost because they had chosen a very big 
nightvenue. Two large halls of an exhibition centre and one outside area 
(more a place for a big rave then a electronic music festival)...fare away 
from the city centre and a complete nightmare when it comes to getting 
homeThe saturday is mostly the day to skip...a complete overload of 
people...day and night (two years ago they stormed the night 
venue.complete madness...)


Again, one nice thing...rumours go round that kraftwerk is playing at Sonar 
this year


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Fw: [313] Drexciya

2002-02-21 Thread Ron
btw,
the german mag de:bug www.de-bug.de  features drexciya this month!
the new issue should be available the next 2 days.
cheers ron



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Betreff: RE: [313] Drexciya


 It creeps up on you doesn't it? But (as always with my pet music) I try to
 like it more, with not quite satisfactory results ... I speculated that
with
 Harnessed The Storm (what's that title about btw?!) on the heels of two
 very strong side-projects, that the pair might simply have exhausted their
 good material ... what do you think? Especially given rumors of a split.

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 Rob Webb:
 
  ps: i know the above's not exactly 313... so, to compensate,
  a quick review of the new Drexciya lp - it's decent,
   but not outstanding.  7 1/2 out of 10.
 
 I thought the same thing about the EP that preceded it, but [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 convinced me to give the album a good listen too. Listened to the A and
 B-side, not being blown away. Then put on the C1-track and think Ah! Now
 we're getting somewhere!, but one great track doesn't really make
 me buy a
 whole album.
 
 Then I flip to the D-side. Start skipping through it. Jaw drops after the
 second skip. Realise that this track is too beautiful to skip
 through. Play
 it from beginning to end. Three times in a row. Undersea
 Disturbances: if
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Re: [313] When going to Sonar remember this....

2002-02-21 Thread Toby Frith
Must admit that last year, the Saturday night was a bit much, too many
people in general - but the atmosphere was excellent.  If this year is
anything like last year though with regards to the line-up, then it'll be
unmissable. The only blip on a quality programme was one half of the UK
showcase (Emerson, Masters, Cox) on the Thursday night, which was utterly
pants.




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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: [313] When going to Sonar remember this


 Sonar is really a thing to concider. The weather is mostly great,
Barcelona
 is a great city and the music is fun (and the food is good...).
 There is only one big but...the festival is growing and growing and
 growingI have been there last year, and the year before and last year
 the 'magic' at night was all lost because they had chosen a very big
 nightvenue. Two large halls of an exhibition centre and one outside area
 (more a place for a big rave then a electronic music festival)...fare away
 from the city centre and a complete nightmare when it comes to getting
 homeThe saturday is mostly the day to skip...a complete overload of
 people...day and night (two years ago they stormed the night
 venue.complete madness...)

 Again, one nice thing...rumours go round that kraftwerk is playing at
Sonar
 this year

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[313] SONAR

2002-02-21 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Just a quick thx for all the off-list info on the above. (Save for one rude
person annoyed at my equation of DEMF with SONAR. Touchy!)

Cheers again all.

http:www.sonar.es

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RE: [313] Re: it takes a millions of questions

2002-02-21 Thread Neil Wallace
:that sunglasses at night party was also listing - Mantronix ?

eh?

:They´ve been a mix of housyness, rap, electro etc...

who - mantronix? or black flag?

:and hey don´t you 4-get I´ll house you - hip house

er, i didnt forget

:or were most of you only into ebm and new wave at that time ? :D

mostly of me i was into a bit of everything at the time although i have no
idea what ebm is

:another question would be -
:
:Detroit-techno influences on current - RnB - so much great music happening
:there

er, ok, cant say ive personally noticed a 313 influence on any rb

:- are there any official quotes on that or interviews?

official in what sense and about what?

:are there more detroit-techno producers doing tracks
:
:at the moment as close to current RnB as Robert Hoods
:
:key to midnight was  ? - need to have it -
:
:-nighttime world 2 - is still my fave record of the last years

ok i think i understood this bit - you want to know of other 313 artists
doing nice downtempo hip-hop kind of stuff right? if so i would reccomend
dan bell and anthony shakir for starters - personally i really didnt like
nightime world at all (but i seem to remember being the only person on the
313 that didnt like it when it came out)

:if any one did read this posting - till this point - interesting isn´t it ?

yes, fascinating


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Re: [313] Rob Hood/Eleven Phases?

2002-02-21 Thread Wes
The Rob Hood track = Mystique (Mix 2) on this comp. Here's a listing:

Eleven Phases: Detroit Compilation (Sublime, 1998)
01. K. Hand Roots
02. Lark Daddy Flip Flop  K. Larkin
03. Knowledge  Supreme Gusto E. Fowlkes
04. Will Web Cosmic Kung-Fu Funk
05. Hood Scientific: Mystique (Mix 2)
06. De-Yang Crew Bad Luck Kid C. Young
07. Thomas Barnett Ravish
08. Daniel Bell In The Park (Original Mix)
09. Graffiti Graffiti's Theme S. Pullen
10. Shake Can't Turn Back
11. Sean Deason Hip Hop Jazz

!K7 attempted something along similar lines round the same time if memory
serves: V/A: Three-Minute Blunts.



On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

 You need someone with a better memory than me my friend, but I have the
 compilation this came on. Vinyl sleeve is a black/white design of quite a
 menacing robotic figure, belying the mostly sweet grooves to be had within
 ...there's a Stacey Pullen thing on there called 'Graffiti's Theme' which
 (imho - that phrase gets a man off any statement) he hasn't bettered ...

 I think the label is either Subjective or Subvoice - I know it's Japanese.
 The project had some ace liner notes and to me ranks as the last great
 Detroit all round compilation, albeit of artists (inc, Hood, Shake, Kenny
 Larkin, Eddie Fowlkes, Thom Barnett) doing breaks and hip hop rather than
 their traditional stuff. Hunt it down, it is sublime  I will have to dig
 it out tonight and implant it in my memory - I am dumb as f'~*.

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 I'd like more info on this release as well.  On a broader scale,
 what is Dan Bell up to these days?  Last time I saw Theo Parrish
 he mentioned Dan was living in Germany, is this still the case?
 
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RE: [313] Rob Hood/Eleven Phases?

2002-02-21 Thread Neil Wallace

looking on the k7 website it seems that their compilation is more detroit
hip-hop artists as opposed to detroit techno folks doing hip-hop. it was
compiled by the one the only mr. terrence parker.

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:To: Odeluga, Ken
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:Subject: Re: [313] Rob Hood/Eleven Phases?
:
:
:The Rob Hood track = Mystique (Mix 2) on this comp. Here's a listing:
:
:Eleven Phases: Detroit Compilation (Sublime, 1998)
:01. K. Hand Roots
:02. Lark Daddy Flip Flop K. Larkin
:03. Knowledge  Supreme GustoE. Fowlkes
:04. Will Web Cosmic Kung-Fu Funk
:05. Hood Scientific: Mystique (Mix 2)
:06. De-Yang Crew Bad Luck KidC. Young
:07. Thomas Barnett Ravish
:08. Daniel Bell In The Park (Original Mix)
:09. Graffiti Graffiti's ThemeS. Pullen
:10. Shake Can't Turn Back
:11. Sean Deason Hip Hop Jazz
:
:!K7 attempted something along similar lines round the same time if memory
:serves: V/A: Three-Minute Blunts.
:
:
:
:On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
:
: You need someone with a better memory than me my friend, but I have the
: compilation this came on. Vinyl sleeve is a black/white design of quite a
: menacing robotic figure, belying the mostly sweet grooves to be
:had within
: ...there's a Stacey Pullen thing on there called 'Graffiti's Theme' which
: (imho - that phrase gets a man off any statement) he hasn't bettered ...
:
: I think the label is either Subjective or Subvoice - I know it's
:Japanese.
: The project had some ace liner notes and to me ranks as the last great
: Detroit all round compilation, albeit of artists (inc, Hood, Shake, Kenny
: Larkin, Eddie Fowlkes, Thom Barnett) doing breaks and hip hop rather than
: their traditional stuff. Hunt it down, it is sublime  I will
:have to dig
: it out tonight and implant it in my memory - I am dumb as f'~*.
:
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: 
: I'd like more info on this release as well.  On a broader scale,
: what is Dan Bell up to these days?  Last time I saw Theo Parrish
: he mentioned Dan was living in Germany, is this still the case?
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[313] Fw: Black Dog News

2002-02-21 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Black Dog NewsBy sheer coincidence, this turned up just now.

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From: Alessandra
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Black Dog News

Electronic mavericks The Black Dog have unveiled a cheeky new website to
coincide with the release of their album, Unsavoury Products (out late April
2002 on Hydrogen Dukebox). Visitors to www.unsavouryproducts.com can feast
on an enormous resource of cool stuff available from Unsavoury Products
Online, The Black Dog¹s global merchandising wing and exclusive supplier of
Unsavoury coffee, perfume, adult toys, tea mugs, retro '70s washers,
post-modern doorknobs and the like. Also available: information on the album
and it¹s co-conspirators and a mine of associated Black Dog propaganda.
Funny and informative. And very Black Dog. Go see.


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[313] Re: it takes a millions of questions

2002-02-21 Thread Otto

At 04:22 PM 2/21/02 +0100, you wrote:
Detroit-techno influences on current - RnB - so much great music happening
there

I know Mark Kinchen is doing RnB production work these days, for 702 ('You 
just don't know' from '99) among others.


Otto


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[313] was Beaver dog power tricks - now trivia

2002-02-21 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
not sure about the exact political details, but I think 'The Black Dog' was 
some sort of English
depressing domesday philosophy.

try www.google.com im sure itll sort you out

rav
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 no, no  I was talking about black flag, cause some friend told me they did
 have some
 
 special mojo-connection mentioned on some cocer and black flag used to be 
 
 somehow political I remember - and I just wanted to know if someone knows 
 
 some facts bout this  
 
 
  Mojo and Detroit ? - did this cross with techno back in the dayz ? - and
 how
  
  did what? hip-hop? Mojo got into it for a bit, but it didn't dominate 
  his show ... Don't think he ever played Boogie Down Productions 
  though, if that's what you're asking.  :)
 
 
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Re: [313] Re: it takes a millions of questions

2002-02-21 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I got a Missy Elliott electronic kit last year which I finally played on 
Christmas and for the first time she openly acknowledged rave and techno
(and it takes some knowledge to differentiate them) as an influence on a new
song For My People on her current album - Missy recorded it after she hit a
club. The kit was made for the European market. Some RB acts acknowledge
electronic music, like OutKast and The Roots, but most don't know what
techno is, and while they will tacitly recognise house music (like Destiny's
Child) but recognise a house mix as a concession to international
territories. I haven't heard much RB from Kinchen for a while, 702 broke up
or lost a member and could have lost their deal, but once he has that big
hit (he should have had it with that brilliant Dave Hollister song a couple
of years ago) he will be everywhere and it will be up to him to reinvent his
sound as others will bite it under industry pressure. Of the current crop of
RB producers only Timbaland - and maybe Dr Dre - consistently does this,
because they turn a lot of big opportunistic names down and are selective.
Rodney Jerkins and The Neptunes, formidable as they are, are in danger of
playing themselves out. That's the reality of a really tough industry.


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From: Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [313] Re: it takes a millions of questions
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 3:09 AM


 At 04:22 PM 2/21/02 +0100, you wrote:
  Detroit-techno influences on current - RnB - so much great music happening
  there

 I know Mark Kinchen is doing RnB production work these days, for 702 ('You
 just don't know' from '99) among others.

 Otto


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