Re: (313) Live Extracts
At 05:53 PM 7/27/2003, tuneintuition wrote: Recommending the new Persona release Stewart Walker - Live Extracts Great for a drive in the rain and can easily be used on the dance floor. Sorry, I think I might have snagged the last copy at Record Time - but maybe they just made it look that way. I'll second this - not exactly what I expected with that title (and having seen Stewart's live sets)...smoother, more Kompaktish than I might have thought. Good show. jeff
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
- Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds Did anyone go to the C.C do at Superconductor in Leeds on Friday ? Was it any good ?? No. No one went to the show in Leeds ;), but saw him @ Plastic People in London on Saturday, and yes, it was good indeed. Not his most inspired performance, but very diverse and some wicked moments. Totally rammed up in that muv. Better than his show @ 93 Feet East last Autumn (yes, Autumn Rob), but consensus determined that it was not as good as his show there this time last year. Saw Gene Farris tonight, who was similarly good, but not amazing. Derrick Carter was holding it down next to the booth. Notably few broken glasses on the dancefloor, and unusually poor attendance. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
- Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics ian cheshire wrote on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 about following: of practice) emulate the reverse action thus enhancing your technique :) + 16 is a good feature but one simple turn of a screw and you'll have the same not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. I've said it before too, and I'll say it again: I could not disagree more. Angola sounds wrong at less than +6. Heard it tonight at 0ish and it sounded sh*t. Some Theo sounds wicked at +12. Some Jacek Sienkiewicz sounds great at -6. Kunuyuki's 'Precious Hall' is criminally slow at less than +5. It loses everything it needs at less than 125 BPM. Most of your audience will not know your songs well enough to know that vocals should be at a different pitch, and most bass will not suffer enough to make a difference. Using +/-8 gives you a hell of a lot more room to work when spinning less than 90 minutes. How are you going to cover any ground if you stay within +4/-2 in a 60 minute set? That's completely limiting in my opinion. Work that sh*t! :) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
I think you're searching for track #8 which clocks in at 123 bpm's on http://www.discogs.com/release/58853 that features the lovely guitar loop from Nirvana's Teen Spirit - Original Message - From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:48:33 -0400 To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
neat stuff - didn't know all those remixes existed - I got it on 12 from when it came out + on a CD compilation years later. not even sure which mix it is, but it has that 'human resource' sound so it might be theirs? always love the big boom boom boom sound those kinda songs have, especially in a big club. lisa DJ Nikadeemas wrote: I think you're searching for track #8 which clocks in at 123 bpm's on http://www.discogs.com/release/58853 that features the lovely guitar loop from Nirvana's Teen Spirit - Original Message - From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:48:33 -0400 To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
hmmm - obviously I've missed some of the finer moments of the 313 list (wasn't around when this was discussed previously) - hehe! experimental is fun, but sometimes it goes horribly wrong. the chipmunk vocals, the scary point of tipping into that awful European hi-energy beat range (you know the ones - songs that have half-naked girls on the rekkid covers usually or some really buff dude topless) or the too-slowed songs/vocals that sound like a scary drug trip. I think if DJs use judgement get creative great things can happen. It's good to play around. There should be no limits. trivia anyone? years back there was a mainstream radio station in NYC that got complaints for playing pitched-up songs (to fit more in an hour) so they stopped doing it. I think it was Z100? lisa Phonopsia wrote: I've said it before too, and I'll say it again: I could not disagree more. Angola sounds wrong at less than +6. Heard it tonight at 0ish and it sounded sh*t. Some Theo sounds wicked at +12. Some Jacek Sienkiewicz sounds great at -6. Kunuyuki's 'Precious Hall' is criminally slow at less than +5. It loses everything it needs at less than 125 BPM. Most of your audience will not know your songs well enough to know that vocals should be at a different pitch, and most bass will not suffer enough to make a difference. Using +/-8 gives you a hell of a lot more room to work when spinning less than 90 minutes. How are you going to cover any ground if you stay within +4/-2 in a 60 minute set? That's completely limiting in my opinion. Work that sh*t! :) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
Pitching up records has always been a part of Detroit techno. As a general practice a techno label like UR (when it was a techno label) would release a record a little slower then the actual DJ speed. on 7/27/03 9:48 PM, lisa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke
(313) What's The Buzz?
Does anyone know who was behind the mysterious Sublunar Oracles LP on Buzz Belgium (BZZLP 106110)? Are these tracks by Detroit artists? Are there track listings? I have always been curious. Orrin
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
lisa wrote on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 about following: too-slowed songs/vocals that sound like a scary drug trip. I think if DJs use judgement get creative great things can happen. It's good to play around. There should be no limits. of course, there's always some exceptions to the rule. i'm just being quite strict about this since most of the kids have been playing everything on at least +12 range in the past years, makes any record sound horrible. it's more like you gotta have pitched up technics because everyone else has you gotta play everything horribly up-pitched and i know the crowd won't dance anything below 140bpm so i play all my records that are 125bpm at 140bpm. just too unprofessional. ok time to stop whining.. :) Phonopsia wrote: Most of your audience will not know your songs well enough to know that vocals should be at a different pitch, well, i can't disagree here, most people on this damn country don't know the records! :) sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) UR/PE
Once again, sorry, but... what is Hypnotech ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:25 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) UR/PE A lot of the hip-hop DJs are really curious about the Hypnotech stuff and the theory behind it.
Re: (313) UR/PE
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 10:14:58AM +0200, Jongsma, K.J. wrote: Hypnotech is a submerge based hip-hop label, i think they like to call it tech-hop. They had some nice releases, check the submerge site for soundbites: http://www.submerge.com/shoppingcart/show_records.php?label=38session=dade4 49831dedd521ea6528ce6db5db0 I thought that they had there own website to but i can't find the link anymore Yes, www.hipnotech.com (notice the i instead of the y ;), but it seems a bit empty... Well, there's always http://www.discogs.com/label/Hipnotech to check the releases so far... Hans Once again, sorry, but... what is Hypnotech ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:25 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) UR/PE A lot of the hip-hop DJs are really curious about the Hypnotech stuff and the theory behind it. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org
(313) Recommendations ? ...
Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Recommendations ? ...
any metro area is buy on sight :) ab -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Recommendations ? ... Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Recommendations ? ...
Ugly Edits 3 is way better than 2 imhokeep an eye peeled for it. Lates, m* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:30 AM Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... any metro area is buy on sight :) ab -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Recommendations ? ... Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc -- -- -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
Tristan wrote; wrote: No. No one went to the show in Leeds , but saw him @ Plastic People in London on Saturday, and yes, it was good indeed. Not his most inspired performance, but very diverse and some wicked moments. Totally rammed up in that muv. Better than his show @ 93 Feet East last Autumn (yes, Autumn Rob), but consensus determined that it was not as good as his show there this time last year. Agreed it was good, Carl played some great tracks, but somehow his set seemed less than the sum of it's parts and didn't seem to flow very smoothly. I thought it wasn't anywhere near as good as his previous visit to Plastic People, but then that really was a special night. It was fun watching him getting the crowd singing along to Michael Jackson though - he certainly seemed to be enjoying himself. ;-) sImon
Re: (313) Walter Gibbons
not online, but i think he released a mix cd recently; maybe of salsloul classics. i saw the vinyl release, but the tracks are mixed on the vinyl. so i didn't buy it. but i seem to remember it was old disco tracks. james From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:05:58 -0500 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Walter Gibbons Anyone know where there are DJ mixes of Walter Gibbons online? Deephousepage - had what looks like two (but I actually think it might be the same one) #920 190 - but they both say Walter Gibbons Live @ Yellow, Japan, early 90s which leads me to think they might be the same mix (haven't listened yet) I'd love to find some old Galaxy 21 sets. MEK
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. There is if you play GheTToStyle thankyou very much !!! .. Oh yeah and that involves having far too many records ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Walter Gibbons
He died in 94! -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 01:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Walter Gibbons not online, but i think he released a mix cd recently; maybe of salsloul classics. i saw the vinyl release, but the tracks are mixed on the vinyl. so i didn't buy it. but i seem to remember it was old disco tracks. james From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:05:58 -0500 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Walter Gibbons Anyone know where there are DJ mixes of Walter Gibbons online? Deephousepage - had what looks like two (but I actually think it might be the same one) #920 190 - but they both say Walter Gibbons Live @ Yellow, Japan, early 90s which leads me to think they might be the same mix (haven't listened yet) I'd love to find some old Galaxy 21 sets. MEK
(313) Technics MK5's
Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Technics MK5's
I was thinking about buying these next month. A deck is a deck, but a technic is a technic. |-Original Message- |From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 28 July 2003 10:24 |To: 313 |Subject: (313) Technics MK5's | | | |Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... |Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' |sounding features : | |Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] |Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] |High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] | |... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono |cables tho - grr ! | |Peace, |marc | |--- |--- |This message is intended only for the personal and |confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. |If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are |hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution |or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This |communication is for information purposes only and should not |be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an |offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation |of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman |Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be |secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that |this information is complete or accurate and it should not be |relied upon as such. All information is subject to change |without notice. |
Re: (313) Technics MK5's
I have a pair of 1210MK5's, but haven't actually powered them up yet (waiting for my cartridges to be mailed to me). As for these features... I can't comment on the sound quality yet, but I can't see any physical differences in the table vs. my old MK2's (mind you, they're not in front of me right now) other than the pitch reset button, recessed power switch, and place to hold a spare headshell... There is no click/indent at zero pitch on the pitch slider too, of course... The Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting I think (!) is simply some marked lines (a scale) on the end of the arm itself, near the counter-weight, that you could use to set the weight more roughly than using the scale that is actually on the weight itself. I don't recall my 1200MK2's having this. But at any rate, I guess it is just another one of these extremely small changes that have been made to the table over the generations. I have no idea what the Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip might be, but curious to know as well... I could find little information about the difference in the MK5's prior to purchasing them, but they were only about US$15 more than the MK2's, so what the hell? The lids I had on my 1200MK2's were hinged to attach (via insertion) to the back of the turntable - the lids on my MK5's simply rest on top of the table and need to be picked up and placed somewhere else during use. This is probably nothing new though (?). Supposedly these tables have a white LED instead of a bulb for the pop-up light? Maybe that was an 'innovation' long ago as well though? And just so that no one is confused: The panasonic-europe may lead some to believe that the MK5 has +/- 16% pitch adjustment, but this is apparently not the case. I guess this is only for the MK5G, and they've not been very careful about how they've posted the information on their page. (The Technical Specifications button from the panasonic-europe page, that you can access by going to technics1210.com, http://www.panasonic-europe.com/technics/products/ product_detail.asp?range=dj , specifically lists Total quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment +/-8% and +/-16%). If I hear any dramatic difference in the sound when I play them, I'll be sure to post to the list ;) Brent On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Langsman, Marc wrote: Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc --- --- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) UR/PE
Sublabel of UR for more hip-hop orientated releses. k -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:43 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) UR/PE Once again, sorry, but... what is Hypnotech ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:25 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) UR/PE A lot of the hip-hop DJs are really curious about the Hypnotech stuff and the theory behind it.
(313) 10 days off mixes
hi all, for a limited time the mp3'd mixes of some of the 10 days off stuff (Metro Area live, included) is available on the _emotion electric_ site at: http://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra Note: the mills, carl craig and bone radio1 stuff will also soon be taken down to make way for some new mixes. robin...
Re: (313) 10 days off mixes
oh yeahmany thanks to Martin Dust for help with the files! damn my swiss cheese memory! :) robin...
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
My 2 cts in this discussion: Since 7 months I have two Vestax PDX 2000 at home after using Technics for about 13 years. It was some getting used to at first. They have more power than the 1200, so you have to use a little more force to slow down or speed up the platter. Also, the pitch control fader is very light, which I don't like (the only thing). Whereas with a technics pitch, you actually have the feeling you are sort of pushing the record to a slower speed, with the vestax fader there is no friction whatsoever, so it's fairly easy to accidentaly tip the fader a little bit up or down while mixing. The straight tone arm does wonders against skipping and for scratching, although I totally suck at that, but I'm making progress very slowly. The ultra pitch and the reverse button are nice gadgets, but no more than that. I occasionally use them to create effects when recording a mix. I still have to find a purpose of the quartz lock button and I really don't understand why Technics persists on including this on the newer models as well. If anyone can explain to me what this functionality is good for, please do! However, I've noticed that I'm actually faster on a technics now. Don't know what the reason is, the higher force of the platter or the +- 10 pitch control, but the difference is significant (Jeff Mills watch your back ;-) ) The argument that everywhere technics are used so you should buy those too is a bit nonsense. When I start playing somewhere with technics, at first I brake or speed up a bit too fast, but that takes just a few seconds to get used to. Well before I throw the first record in it's all business as usual. So in short, it doesn't make much difference what you buy. I bought mine because I see the vestax as progress and I hate the placing of the on/off button of the technics and the fact that the needle often skips too easily (although that can easily be solved by bringing your own cartidges to a gig). The vestax also seem to have less problems with feedback (rumble). As far as durability goes, hard to say after 6 months home use mostly, but at least they feel even more robust than 1200's to me and with that magnetic motor, there's not much that can wear out. On the other hand, how many 1200's do you encounter where the light is still working? I'm happy with them and I wouldn't trade them in for technics. Joost -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by their lack of features. I've heard good things about the Vestax decks (e.g reverse function, plus/minus 16 capacity) but their seems to be a big question surrounding how durable they actually are. Apparently Technics have just released a MK5 version as well (albeit minus a reverse function). Would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions. Sorry if this one's slightly off-topic and if you've received it a number of times (currently having problems with a new computer). Chris.
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Thanks for the comparison...I agree about the pitch, I like the resistencace on the 1210s but vestax are definitely moving things forward quite substantially especially with the straight arm etc. As as slight tangent I was considering in investing in some Shure M44 scratch carts to stick on my 1210s as Im fed up with the skipping - does anyone use these / know if they will do the trick ? Peace, marc -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:10 AM To: Chris Anglesey; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics My 2 cts in this discussion: Since 7 months I have two Vestax PDX 2000 at home after using Technics for about 13 years. It was some getting used to at first. They have more power than the 1200, so you have to use a little more force to slow down or speed up the platter. Also, the pitch control fader is very light, which I don't like (the only thing). Whereas with a technics pitch, you actually have the feeling you are sort of pushing the record to a slower speed, with the vestax fader there is no friction whatsoever, so it's fairly easy to accidentaly tip the fader a little bit up or down while mixing. The straight tone arm does wonders against skipping and for scratching, although I totally suck at that, but I'm making progress very slowly. The ultra pitch and the reverse button are nice gadgets, but no more than that. I occasionally use them to create effects when recording a mix. I still have to find a purpose of the quartz lock button and I really don't understand why Technics persists on including this on the newer models as well. If anyone can explain to me what this functionality is good for, please do! However, I've noticed that I'm actually faster on a technics now. Don't know what the reason is, the higher force of the platter or the +- 10 pitch control, but the difference is significant (Jeff Mills watch your back ;-) ) The argument that everywhere technics are used so you should buy those too is a bit nonsense. When I start playing somewhere with technics, at first I brake or speed up a bit too fast, but that takes just a few seconds to get used to. Well before I throw the first record in it's all business as usual. So in short, it doesn't make much difference what you buy. I bought mine because I see the vestax as progress and I hate the placing of the on/off button of the technics and the fact that the needle often skips too easily (although that can easily be solved by bringing your own cartidges to a gig). The vestax also seem to have less problems with feedback (rumble). As far as durability goes, hard to say after 6 months home use mostly, but at least they feel even more robust than 1200's to me and with that magnetic motor, there's not much that can wear out. On the other hand, how many 1200's do you encounter where the light is still working? I'm happy with them and I wouldn't trade them in for technics. Joost -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by their lack of features. I've heard good things about the Vestax decks (e.g reverse function, plus/minus 16 capacity) but their seems to be a big question surrounding how durable they actually are. Apparently Technics have just released a MK5 version as well (albeit minus a reverse function). Would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions. Sorry if this one's slightly off-topic and if you've received it a number of times (currently having problems with a new computer). Chris. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Thanks for the comparison...I agree about the pitch, I like the resistencace on the 1210s but vestax are definitely moving things forward quite substantially especially with the straight arm etc. all the vestax needed (imo) was diecast aluminium shell instead of the plastic... all that stuff about industry standard doesn't wash with me, if you know how to mix then it doesn't matter (to me at any rate) what you're doing it on as long as they are direct drive. As as slight tangent I was considering in investing in some Shure M44 scratch carts to stick on my 1210s as Im fed up with the skipping - does anyone use these / know if they will do the trick ? i was thinking of doing this soon as well as my stantons have had it there are less scratch oriented carts too from shure (m44g, the m447s are the scratch ones)are they any good? ta robin...
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
smells like Freeland ?? isn't that what it is ? -Original Message- From: DJ Nikadeemas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 03:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics I think you're searching for track #8 which clocks in at 123 bpm's on http://www.discogs.com/release/58853 that features the lovely guitar loop from Nirvana's Teen Spirit - Original Message - From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:48:33 -0400 To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke This sounds overly prscriptive to me. People play in a variety of ways with a variety of preferences. To lay this down as a hard and fast rule seems to rule out a spectrum of adventurous ways that a dj might play. Just because you don't do it, why say no one else should - if they can and want to? k
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 28 July 2003 12:15 |To: 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro |Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics | | | | | Sakari Karipuro wrote: | | not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for | pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation | you don't have enough records with you. | | | sakke | | |This sounds overly prscriptive to me. People play in a variety |of ways with a variety of preferences. To lay this down as a |hard and fast rule seems to rule out a spectrum of adventurous |ways that a dj might play. Just because you don't do it, why |say no one else should - if they can and want to? | |k |
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Well Sakari do you think you could tell Rob Hood that? :) I know what you mean but at the end of the day I think it would be down to the individual record person. -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 12:12 To: 'Odeluga, Ken'; 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 28 July 2003 12:15 |To: 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro |Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics | | | | | Sakari Karipuro wrote: | | not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for | pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation | you don't have enough records with you. | | | sakke | | |This sounds overly prscriptive to me. People play in a variety |of ways with a variety of preferences. To lay this down as a |hard and fast rule seems to rule out a spectrum of adventurous |ways that a dj might play. Just because you don't do it, why |say no one else should - if they can and want to? | |k | --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
RE: (313) Recommendations ? ...
Don't overlook the sneaky Morgan Geist solo 12s. 'Super' is still on my top shelf at home after almost a year (did he have another one yet? Must have.) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:31 AM To: Langsman, Marc; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... any metro area is buy on sight :) ab -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Recommendations ? ... Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc --- - -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Recommendations ? ...
I think the Moves EP came out after this, yet another excellent release. GR - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... Don't overlook the sneaky Morgan Geist solo 12s. 'Super' is still on my top shelf at home after almost a year (did he have another one yet? Must have.) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:31 AM To: Langsman, Marc; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... any metro area is buy on sight :) ab -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Recommendations ? ... Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc --- - -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Recommendations ? ...
12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Oh boy, I can double recommend the new Sound Signature 12 (018). It is hot. I love it. I guess it won't be to everyones taste, but this is wicked disco music. Mashed up theo kick drum, nice disco loop, beautiful bass line and chords coming more prominent at the end. hot club stuff I reckon. Metro Area, well - I really like that 'dance reaction' single that came out with the LP - thats good... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!
JT Minto let me slap you on the back for putting this out: this is f***ing kicking!
RE: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!
I totally agree with this, i know i said this a while ago to but this record has been on my crapy turntable a lot! Def. one of the best records from Dan Curtin in a long time! kj -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 28 juli 2003 14:11 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?! JT Minto let me slap you on the back for putting this out: this is f***ing kicking! -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Oops I guess I'm not supposed to play Bobby brown's My Prerogative pitched up to 45 in my electro sets either then?! ;) Sakari don't spoil everyone's fun. ~Dave -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke This sounds overly prscriptive to me. People play in a variety of ways with a variety of preferences. To lay this down as a hard and fast rule seems to rule out a spectrum of adventurous ways that a dj might play. Just because you don't do it, why say no one else should - if they can and want to? k
RE: (313) 10 days off mixes
I'm disappointed ,the three best sets from the fantastic Ghent party, namely I-F's and Dj Stingray and DJ 3000's sets are missing!!! Its a crime. Damn good party(s), some nice people and a great city. Respect to Ghent. Quest -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 11:07 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) 10 days off mixes hi all, for a limited time the mp3'd mixes of some of the 10 days off stuff (Metro Area live, included) is available on the _emotion electric_ site at: http://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra Note: the mills, carl craig and bone radio1 stuff will also soon be taken down to make way for some new mixes. robin...
(313) Mahogani #1
For anyone else who missed out first time (like me) Piccadilly racords has in stock what they call a limited repress of Mahogani 1 - Amp Dog Knight : I'm Doing Fine http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk Cheers BT
(313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
have been searching for any kwaito (brenda fassie etc) on vinyl. any peeps from SA on the list? from what i've read, there is only one pressing plant in Africa, in zimbabwe, and kwaito in general doesnt come on vinyl??? thats criminal if true...pleeease help... btw kwaito = south african offspring/response to house... jt _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
from what i've read, there is only one pressing plant in Africa Did you not think to question JT, how that could possibly be true?! k
RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
uh no. why do you think it isn't? from what i read there is no record pressing in SA, there is a pressing plant in zimbabwe and thats it. (this is what the article said). also my father has a good friend in SA who used to work at supposedly the only record press in SA and it went under quite awhile ago. cd's are cheaper and easier to make and more profit, and i am finding virtually NO kwaito on vinyl. sure seems true to me. so if you have info otherwise cough it up smart guy! from what i've read, there is only one pressing plant in Africa Did you not think to question JT, how that could possibly be true?! k _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
I've come into a bit of money (literally) Wow, can you give me some. ;)
Re: (313) Recommendations ? ...
12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Oh boy, I can double recommend the new Sound Signature 12 (018). It is hot. I love it. I guess it won't be to everyones taste, but this is wicked disco music. Mashed up theo kick drum, nice disco loop, beautiful bass line and chords coming more prominent at the end. hot club stuff I reckon. MAN... Heard it today.. Oh man... This is something I will be playing more than 3 times in one set. Really... Off to Ghent now.. to catch Derrick May!! (this will be the first time I see this guy in my life) Now I realize I didn´t see much detroit dj´s in my life .. only jeff mills richie hawtin jay denham rolando. That´s it. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Recommendations ? ...
Off to Ghent now.. to catch Derrick May!! (this will be the first time I see this guy in my life) Oh no. Shall I tell him, or shall I leave it? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Technics MK5's
I'm not sure if these are the new Technics I used in Liverpool (Scott?) but something very weird happened with the pitch at one point. Basically it started wavering all over the place. When I mixed out, which was like mixing out of a badly drummed disco record, the new record was at about -6, which was not right at all but prior to that I thought I'd maybe had a wee bit too much to drink. I've heard other people have experienced similar things (Tristan?). Personally I'd buy a mkII. J - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: (313) Technics MK5's Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Recommendations ? ...
Off to Ghent now.. to catch Derrick May!! (this will be the first time I see this guy in my life) You're kidding?!?!?! But you are the biggest Mayday fan on this list!! :-D k
Re: (313) UR/PE
I think that's spelt incorrectly, I copied it from the post before but then looked on the Submerge site. I save all my subbing skills for stories, not e-mails. Sorry! ;) Log onto the Submerge site for more info. -- From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) UR/PE Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 5:43 PM Once again, sorry, but... what is Hypnotech ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:25 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) UR/PE A lot of the hip-hop DJs are really curious about the Hypnotech stuff and the theory behind it.
Re: (313) Mahogani #1
i noticed a afew places have thisseems the bootleg pressure helped then? :) not moaning as i stupidly slept on this the first time round.can't get enough of those blockbuster beeps... oh yeah the latest Andres on mahogani (m4) is amazing...the salvador de bahia side is super slow and won't fit with anything i have but it's brilliantdefo recommended. and speaking of amp fiddler the 12 of 'you bring me vibes' with Only Child has been on my tables all weekendsummer music! robin... For anyone else who missed out first time (like me) Piccadilly racords has in stock what they call a limited repress of Mahogani 1 - Amp Dog Knight : I'm Doing Fine http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk
(313) Glasgow boat party with Larry Heard
Excuse the plug - this may be of interest to the Scottish 313ers and any other UK list-members who fancy a trip to Glasgow in August... Cheers, Tom Traxx (www.traxxevents.com) and Spatial (www.spatialsounds.com) have joined forces for an event which should provide the perfect close to the summer... Sunday 24th August, 2003 Traxx Spatial Present Larry Heard (aka Mr Fingers) and Brett Dancer Venue: The 'Clyde Cruiser' ship, sailing along Loch Long and Loch Goil Capacity: 250 There are almost no superlatives left to describe the music of Larry Heard. Under both his own name and monikers such as Mr Fingers, Fingers Inc and Gherkin Jerks, he has produced countless classic tracks and a string of beautiful and groundbreaking albums. Heard's productions possess a magical quality which transcends musical genres, but many know him best for deep house masterpieces such as Can U Feel It, Washing Machine and Mystery Of Love (with Robert Owens). Heard is cited as an inspiration by many well-known producers, and his musical influence can be heard in the work of countless artists. Like his productions, Larry Heard's DJ sets are characterised by soul, warmth and emotion. He has the ability to craft a gorgeous laid-back groove with spellbinding instrumentals and vocals which send shivers down the spine, but also the versatility to up the tempo with the occasional foray into old-school Chicago jack trax. In the last few years alone, Larry's DJing talents have seen him play at venues in Tokyo, Detroit, Chicago, Osaka and London to name but a few, and he is relishing the opportunity to return to Scotland. Joining Larry behind the decks will be Brett Dancer, owner of the Track Mode record label. A talented DJ and producer from Kalamazoo, Michigan, Dancer established Track Mode in 1995 as an outlet for the best that deep house has to offer, and to date the label can boast releases from artists such as Moodymann, Jordan Fields, Larry Heard, Chris Gray, Theo Parrish and Shake. Listening to the sounds of Larry Heard and Brett Dancer aboard a ship sailing through some of the most breathtaking Scottish scenery promises to be a unique and very special experience. The journey: departing from Victoria Harbour, Greenock, along to Loch Long and Loch Goil. These are unrivalled scenic sailing waters, affording good shelter in most weather conditions, ranging from the steep-sided mountainous fjord-like shores of Loch Long and Loch Goil. In a nutshell, this day sail will afford some of the most stunning scenery Scotland has to offer whilst having your ears massaged by some of the finest house music in the world. Tickets are sure to be in demand for this event, so please get yours early to avoid missing out... http://www.traxxevents.com/tickets
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
I've gotta feeling this has been asked / discussed before, but I'll ask anyway .. What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! Simon M Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/07/2003 09:53:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds Tristan wrote; wrote: No. No one went to the show in Leeds , but saw him @ Plastic People in London on Saturday, and yes, it was good indeed. Not his most inspired performance, but very diverse and some wicked moments. Totally rammed up in that muv. Better than his show @ 93 Feet East last Autumn (yes, Autumn Rob), but consensus determined that it was not as good as his show there this time last year. Agreed it was good, Carl played some great tracks, but somehow his set seemed less than the sum of it's parts and didn't seem to flow very smoothly. I thought it wasn't anywhere near as good as his previous visit to Plastic People, but then that really was a special night. It was fun watching him getting the crowd singing along to Michael Jackson though - he certainly seemed to be enjoying himself. ;-) sImon
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! It's his edit. available on 'Moxie'. can get 'em from Rushhour _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
hi gary, I've gotta feeling this has been asked / discussed before, but I'll ask anyway .. it has.. :) What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! it's on moxie (mx003)and yeah it's a CC re-edit can anyone recommend any Talking Heads while i'm on? robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! Yeah.. this has been discussed before. It must have been that moxie re-edit that he did? Moxie 004. The record is called specimen. Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
Masters at Work remix, I believe! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 16:18 To: Simon M Pascoe Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds I've gotta feeling this has been asked / discussed before, but I'll ask anyway .. What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! Simon M Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/07/2003 09:53:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds Tristan wrote; wrote: No. No one went to the show in Leeds , but saw him @ Plastic People in London on Saturday, and yes, it was good indeed. Not his most inspired performance, but very diverse and some wicked moments. Totally rammed up in that muv. Better than his show @ 93 Feet East last Autumn (yes, Autumn Rob), but consensus determined that it was not as good as his show there this time last year. Agreed it was good, Carl played some great tracks, but somehow his set seemed less than the sum of it's parts and didn't seem to flow very smoothly. I thought it wasn't anywhere near as good as his previous visit to Plastic People, but then that really was a special night. It was fun watching him getting the crowd singing along to Michael Jackson though - he certainly seemed to be enjoying himself. ;-) sImon
(313) moxie003
http://www.discogs.com/release/157172 robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
Yeah.. this has been discussed before. It must have been that moxie re-edit that he did? Moxie 004. The record is called specimen. Must be Moxie 003 actually. Now that I think of it I almost know the cat# of every single record of my collection by heart.. I mean.. this can´t be healthy, can it? Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
The whole of Remain In Light...Tight drum and bass and african polyrhythms...its by far the funkiest T.H ive heard. For a more deeper lister - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, a David Byrne/Brian Eno Production. Errie music... Rav. -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 16:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds hi gary, I've gotta feeling this has been asked / discussed before, but I'll ask anyway .. it has.. :) What's that version of 'Once In A Lifetime' that C.C played, is it a C.C re-edit? Sounded great in Plastic People, had it in my head for most of Sunday! it's on moxie (mx003)and yeah it's a CC re-edit can anyone recommend any Talking Heads while i'm on? robin...
(313) dynamite soul
ok just listened to some clips of dJ Genesis and neil olivierra's (heatseakers) things on Dynamite soul any idea when these are out? the love peace and harmony thing tony did as ibex on the label is brilliant. anyone name the vocalist sampled on there (i'm rubbish as spotting these things) cheers robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
n anyone recommend any Talking Heads while i'm on? heh. I reckon. hmm. I like the speaking in tongues/remain in light lp's. but they're the most well known... good tracks I Zimbra Born Under Punches this must be the place crosseyed and painless oh god, theres loads.. also check the Byrne/Eno LP - My Life in the bush of ghosts (I have a spare robin if you want one) and also B-52's mesopotamina lp has byrne production. D.Byrne can also be found playing on a fair bit of arthur russell stuff. I've also got a good 'heads' book thats worth a read Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
Maarten Baute wrote: Now that I think of it I almost know the cat# of every single record of my collection by heart.. I mean.. this can´t be healthy, can it? grin as opposed to the 3 x 313'ers (who shall remain nameless) who struggled to spot Sharivari on Saturday night. ;-) sImon
(313) set times (was Vestax or Technics)
Using +/-8 gives you a hell of a lot more room to work when spinning less than 90 minutes. I've been noticing in web/magazine articles people talking about set times and how there are fewer clubs with DJ residencies. Maybe it's because I've been looking at bios on DJ from the 70s and early 80s but even in newer articles I've noticed DJs talking about how it's slowly degrading club atmospheres. I've been thinking about this quite alot lately as I'm ramping up to start my regular Saturday night gig and hopefully nurture a following. So, what's up in your neck of the woods - how many places have the standard guard that you can rely on without the extra guest DJ? every night they present? We've got several nights here but usually they have the same rotating DJs (and up to four or five per night) that get only an hour or two (tops) on the decks - and now that they have pushed the closing times back on hour it seems like they've just added an extra name to the line-up instead of giving the DJ more time. MEK
(313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds)
also check the Byrne/Eno LP - My Life in the bush of ghosts (I have a spare robin if you want one) and also B-52's mesopotamina lp has byrne production. D.Byrne can also be found playing on a fair bit of arthur russell stuff. Don´t got me started on the B-52´s. I strongly recommend there debut album the B-52´s for a bit more rock appeal. There are some funny tunes on their second album wild planet as well. Always play the B-52´s when not feeling so well. Always works for me. I always think of my time at highschool when I hear it, wich is strange considering I was listening to a whole different kind of music back then (I mean.. totally different...). And does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway related to 313? Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
Cheers people. I dug most of his set, from classic Jacko to Osunlade, the Paperclip People track the one on Los Hermanos. Jaguar always goes down well even though I was surprised he played it, the Beyonce record is a good pop record as well. Didn't really like the way he ended the set but that's a minor really, overall it was something different very enjoyable. G. p.s Even I spotted Shari Vari, maybe I can make it as a spotter after all! Simon M Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/07/2003 16:33:11 To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds Maarten Baute wrote: Now that I think of it I almost know the cat# of every single record of my collection by heart.. I mean.. this can´t be healthy, can it? grin as opposed to the 3 x 313'ers (who shall remain nameless) who struggled to spot Sharivari on Saturday night. ;-) sImon
Re: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics)
the whole time i've been djing i've been moaning about the fact that a lot of the times i play i get an hour to do my thing when at least 2 is what is needed to get the vibe flowing...anyway i digress electric chair here in manchester get a big turnout for the residents no matter what the guest. robin... Using +/-8 gives you a hell of a lot more room to work when spinning less than 90 minutes. I've been noticing in web/magazine articles people talking about set times and how there are fewer clubs with DJ residencies. Maybe it's because I've been looking at bios on DJ from the 70s and early 80s but even in newer articles I've noticed DJs talking about how it's slowly degrading club atmospheres. I've been thinking about this quite alot lately as I'm ramping up to start my regular Saturday night gig and hopefully nurture a following. So, what's up in your neck of the woods - how many places have the standard guard that you can rely on without the extra guest DJ? every night they present? We've got several nights here but usually they have the same rotating DJs (and up to four or five per night) that get only an hour or two (tops) on the decks - and now that they have pushed the closing times back on hour it seems like they've just added an extra name to the line-up instead of giving the DJ more time.
Re: (313) dynamite soul
ok just listened to some clips of dJ Genesis and neil olivierra's (heatseakers) things on Dynamite soul so, what are they like.? i'm dying for some new n. olivierra stuff!! fab
(313) mesopotamia
does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway related to 313? Well, of course I don't really know, but what little info I have read on Mojo always states that he caned the B-52's. and, as this is a little leftfield pop classic, I would presume he was playing this alot. It's hard not to like it I reckon! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) dynamite soul
there are clips on groovetech.com slow discoey detroit housevery nice i always find it hard to describe music effectively :) robin... ok just listened to some clips of dJ Genesis and neil olivierra's (heatseakers) things on Dynamite soul so, what are they like.? i'm dying for some new n. olivierra stuff!!
RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) mesopotamia
does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway related to 313? definitely one of those weird 'hits' in Detroit with the 80's underground party/detroit dance scene (if you want more detais on this check out Dan Sicko's book, the chapter Party Out of Bounds)... and of course the Mojo factor as Alex said. same came be said for the seemingly inexplicable popularity of Visage 'frequency 7' in detroit too, to this day! etc. cheers, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Crai g in Leeds)
And does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway related to 313? It could be the influence of the Electrifying Mojo, according to the 313 FAQs: He had the B-52's on the air for an interview and an impromptu, off-tempo rendition of Mesopotamia. Gary
Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
While I can't answer your question about vinyl releases either, I found some sites on Kwaito which I found interesting, and they might help you with your search... Here are the links: http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ Cheers, Anya From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
Re: (313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds)
On 7/28/03 11:48 AM, Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Is it in someway related to 313? Just part of the wonderful mix of hot tunes in Detroit at the time. Dan Sicko made an interesting point in one of his presentations (and I paraphrase) the black kids were all learning how to sing the backing wails from Mesopotamia, while the white kids were learning how to chant Bow-wow-wow Yipee Yo Yipee Yay! -- Im
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
You're not going to believe this, but the forum is now on Thursday - perils of being an international traveller, I guess! www.soundsliketechno.com.au - look for the forums section. I think it will be noon East Coast Aust time on Thur 31st which, just to get some idea, is about 10 pm Detroit time and 2 am London time (I know Detroit is on daylight saving but I don't know about you European cats so please take that into account if you wish to participate). Wonder what people think of this online documentary over all. I advise listening to the audio, not reading the transcripts - I can only speak for myself but I think some of the transcripts are a little inaccurate. I know I didn't use some of those words! It's first rate otherwise! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 1:58 AM Last week I posted some info for the Derrick May forum on the Sounds Like Techno site, the forum has been pushed back a week - details below. The time below is Sydney/Melbourne time so for anyone elsewhere that would be sometime Saturday evening Detroit time, just so you guys can get some idea. Yeah, we had a last minute change last week and Derrick in now confirmed to be on the forum at 11.20pm on Sunday 27th at www.soundsliketechno.com.au. He's being interviewed by Fenella Kernebone on her program the Sound Lab on triple j at 11pm, then will be live on the forum answering questions from 11.20pm.
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
And that's a day earlier - ie Wed - if you're in the US or Europe, of course... -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:34 AM You're not going to believe this, but the forum is now on Thursday - perils of being an international traveller, I guess! www.soundsliketechno.com.au - look for the forums section. I think it will be noon East Coast Aust time on Thur 31st which, just to get some idea, is about 10 pm Detroit time and 2 am London time (I know Detroit is on daylight saving but I don't know about you European cats so please take that into account if you wish to participate). Wonder what people think of this online documentary over all. I advise listening to the audio, not reading the transcripts - I can only speak for myself but I think some of the transcripts are a little inaccurate. I know I didn't use some of those words! It's first rate otherwise! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 1:58 AM Last week I posted some info for the Derrick May forum on the Sounds Like Techno site, the forum has been pushed back a week - details below. The time below is Sydney/Melbourne time so for anyone elsewhere that would be sometime Saturday evening Detroit time, just so you guys can get some idea. Yeah, we had a last minute change last week and Derrick in now confirmed to be on the forum at 11.20pm on Sunday 27th at www.soundsliketechno.com.au. He's being interviewed by Fenella Kernebone on her program the Sound Lab on triple j at 11pm, then will be live on the forum answering questions from 11.20pm.
Re: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics)
So, what's up in your neck of the woods - how many places have the standard guard that you can rely on without the extra guest DJ? every night they present? In Glasgow, I think some of the longest-running, most established nights are down to the resident DJs far more than any guests that may get booked. Slam's events have become an institution thanks to Stuart and Orde over the years - although having said that, their current nights such as Pressure tend to rely heavily on big line-ups of huge DJs. The Sub Club's Saturday nights have been going for many years with residents Harri and Domenic playing all night, week in week out - they do have occasional guests (Derrick Carter, Mark Farina, Fabrice Lig to name a few this year) but the night is really built around the residents. And my mates at Traxx have also been doing packed nights at the Soundhaus for many years with no 'name' guests, just the core team of Laurence Hughes, Simon Cordiner and Andy Pirie playing all night long. There are plenty of others up here too, I've just focused on three that stood out. In my experience having great resident DJs is the fundamental key to having a successful and long-running club night - if the crowd are coming to see them first and foremost, it also gives the club a lot more room to manoeuvre and allows them to book slightly more esoteric or lesser-known guests... Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Recommendations ? ...
..for more of that sound, i would seek out the new BLOCK 16 EP on balihu. excellent production by daniel wang and brennan green. From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/28 Mon AM 07:37:37 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... Don't overlook the sneaky Morgan Geist solo 12s. 'Super' is still on my top shelf at home after almost a year (did he have another one yet? Must have.) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:31 AM To: Langsman, Marc; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Recommendations ? ... any metro area is buy on sight :) ab -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Recommendations ? ... Had a wee visit to Smallfish the other day and noticed Ugly Edits 2 and Metro Area 4 in the racks - so after having seen them mentioned on the list I had a listen and ended up purchasing them both :) ... Could anyone recommend any other 12's worth picking up by theo parrish and metro area as I was really impressed by both these ep's ? Ta, Marc --- - -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
(313) Subject: mesopotamia
I've heard quite a few Detroit DJs drop this one but it is indeed undoubtably a classic. Also there is a Shake tune which samples this - can't remember its title now but its on blue wax! Danny Krivit's re-edit was my favourite release of last year, though now Strut have decided to shut up you may find it difficult to track down... David
(313) FREQUENCY vs ATKINS
can anyone help me. is the original mix of kiss the sky better than the remix. does derrick play the remixed version??? ryan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) derrick may live in norway 1999
Hi all, I remember someone asking a month ago what the second track was on the derrick may live in norway 1999 mix, wich you can hear at http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/index.html. Well.. I found out that it is one track from the mosaic efforts vol.1 ep by Jorge Zamacona (Paul Mac) released on mosaic (#11). Would normally respond private, but forgot who asked. Sorry. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!
- Original Message - From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?! JT Minto let me slap you on the back for putting this out: this is f***ing kicking! Speaking of Dan Curtin and Morgan Geist, I can also recommend their 'Shredded Melody' 12, from about a year ago if memory serves. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics)
Ah, this post reminds me of trips to Pure in Edinburgh, where Twitch and Brainstorm would often play all night. Some of my best nights, hearing so many records for the first time...and mixed so well. A total education. Big up Scotland! -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/28/2003 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Cc: Subject:Re: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics) So, what's up in your neck of the woods - how many places have the standard guard that you can rely on without the extra guest DJ? every night they present? In Glasgow, I think some of the longest-running, most established nights are down to the resident DJs far more than any guests that may get booked. Slam's events have become an institution thanks to Stuart and Orde over the years - although having said that, their current nights such as Pressure tend to rely heavily on big line-ups of huge DJs. The Sub Club's Saturday nights have been going for many years with residents Harri and Domenic playing all night, week in week out - they do have occasional guests (Derrick Carter, Mark Farina, Fabrice Lig to name a few this year) but the night is really built around the residents. And my mates at Traxx have also been doing packed nights at the Soundhaus for many years with no 'name' guests, just the core team of Laurence Hughes, Simon Cordiner and Andy Pirie playing all night long. There are plenty of others up here too, I've just focused on three that stood out. In my experience having great resident DJs is the fundamental key to having a successful and long-running club night - if the crowd are coming to see them first and foremost, it also gives the club a lot more room to manoeuvre and allows them to book slightly more esoteric or lesser-known guests... Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) derrick may live in norway 1999
By the way - Paul Mac's recent double LP - Push Came to Shove is excellent and has elements that would please many different floors/ears - from melodic deep techno, breakbeats , more up front bangers. favorite tracks: Bitter Acid, Malibu Slump, Random Agenda, Back and Forth, and More Over MEK Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ndora.becc: Subject: (313) derrick may live in norway 1999 07/28/03 01:22 PM Please respond to Maarten Baute Hi all, I remember someone asking a month ago what the second track was on the derrick may live in norway 1999 mix, wich you can hear at http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/index.html. Well.. I found out that it is one track from the mosaic efforts vol.1 ep by Jorge Zamacona (Paul Mac) released on mosaic (#11). Would normally respond private, but forgot who asked. Sorry. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
jt wrote: have been searching for any kwaito (brenda fassie etc) on vinyl. any peeps from SA on the list? from what i've read, there is only one pressing plant in Africa, in zimbabwe, and kwaito in general doesnt come on vinyl??? thats criminal if true...pleeease help... btw kwaito = south african offspring/response to house... dont have an answer to your question, but i do have a follow up question [sort of..] how on earth did you get exposed to this kind of music? i remember seeing mention of it on some arty-farty tv-show here in holland about two months ago, but none of the songs i heard on that short [aprox. 20 minutes] documantery could really grab my intention. i'm asking because i sometimes find it funny where and how i sometimes find out about a musician or a musical style, in a somewhat unlikely place, and i'm just curious about other peoples experiences. [or is this the wrong forum to ask questions like this and should i just register for the ol messageboard?] most unlikely place/situation i've discovered new music was watching rip curl surfvideo's. usually surf video's are dominated by punk rock á la korn and others, but rip curl's 'the search' had some mutabaruka, some indonesian sounds, and some music by tom curren that i really enjoyed. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage but from what I read even dj's like Ron Hardy had a reputation of pitching his records up. I have fond memories of watching Derrick Carter play Computer Madness by S. Poindexter at +6 and doing some damage with early '90s Chi- trax. Of course watching Jeff Mills spin techno for the first time was a bit of a revelation even though I like listening to classic techno at normal tempo. on 7/28/03 6:11 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!?
(313) Field Day Fesival in Ohio Aug. 15-17
Experimedia / Headroom Digital / Molotov Records has been invited to organize one of five stages at this years second annual Field Day Festival NE Ohio 2003. This will be an absolutely FREE, all weekend, outdoor, camping event during the weekend of August 15th-17th. The current confirmed lineup is now posted on the experimedia website. the event will be held here... Becks Family Campground 8375 Friendsville Rd Wooster, Ohio 44691-9606 Phone : 330.264.9930 Lineup for Experimedia / Headroom Digital / Molotov Stage :Live Performances: Ultradyne Auxmen James White Joshua Treble Geoff White Twine Manasyt Counter-Couture Mesu Kasumai Helen Keller jbible themoonstealingproject 3M Zeljko QuartetIn Broken Key NotekhuClockworm Hearts Of Darkness Girl Talk :DJ Performances: Jugoe DJ K-1 Famous Amos No Pan Twinhooker 50 Pence Douglas Black Thrush Eclectic Oddities Nimrodpower Lickshot 1 DJ Boompsie :Atmospherics: Phase04 Video Cleveland Headroom Digital Doug Myers Sculptural Installation Akron Archetype Group Studios Tyrone Semper Conceptual Installation Canton Neo Progressive Arts Eye Infection Video Canton Experimedia Videotroopers Video Amsterdam Headroom NL Timeslots : http://www.experimedia.net/fielddaytimeslots.htm Full festival info and lineup for all 5 stages. http://www.controlthenight.com/fieldday.html http://www.experimedia.net http://www.headroomdigital.com http://molotov.experimedia.net regards, michael _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. Yeah, I know for a fact that it's also trendy to be pointing out what's trendy all the f*cking time too now. With all the trendiness on this page I just don't think I can take it. F*cking trendy posers playing records at their normal speed, makes me sick. I'm going to start subbing to that pitched up to +12 ain't-no-house-music-disco-thing going on here with us post-hu-mans. MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics 07/28/03 03:21 PM To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage but from what I read even dj's like Ron Hardy had a reputation of pitching his records up. I have fond memories of watching Derrick Carter play Computer Madness by S. Poindexter at +6 and doing some damage with early '90s Chi- trax. Of course watching Jeff Mills spin techno for the first time was a bit of a revelation even though I like listening to classic techno at normal tempo. on 7/28/03 6:11 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!?
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage Ha! Steve I always like how you keep us abreast of the latest trends in dance music.. as I can't be bothered much myself to worry if I'm following trends or bucking trends properly or not. I'm too busy finding and playing out the music I like. But if any music or DJ styles I post about fall in or out of trendiness can you please let me know and I'll change accordingly. Best! Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
spw wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo i've tried to follow my rule, (if i may say so) for the past 10 years i've played records. i couldn't care less if it's trendy or not. (and to repeat myself, there is an exception to every rule) and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. it's all the same for me. good record is a good record. what I read even dj's like Ron Hardy had a reputation of pitching his records up. well, he sure has such reputation, which i am very well aware of. but for what i've heard he did it because he was on drugs, so everything sounded too slow to him. (this was told on pump up the volume). sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here reflect the latest trends like the popularity KDJ and 'soulful house' ect.. on 7/28/03 3:57 PM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage Ha! Steve I always like how you keep us abreast of the latest trends in dance music.. as I can't be bothered much myself to worry if I'm following trends or bucking trends properly or not. I'm too busy finding and playing out the music I like. But if any music or DJ styles I post about fall in or out of trendiness can you please let me know and I'll change accordingly. Best! Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
on 7/28/03 3:58 PM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: spw wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo i've tried to follow my rule, (if i may say so) for the past 10 years i've played records. i couldn't care less if it's trendy or not. (and to repeat myself, there is an exception to every rule) would you say you were mostly a techno or house person 10 years ago. and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. it's all the same for me. good record is a good record. but you admitted you mostly play deep house these days. what I read even dj's like Ron Hardy had a reputation of pitching his records up. well, he sure has such reputation, which i am very well aware of. but for what i've heard he did it because he was on drugs, so everything sounded too slow to him. (this was told on pump up the volume). The label +8 got it's name from the pitch up style, 'The Wizard' ect..
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Irrelevant to my point. What I observed is your trend vigilance and I perceive it as a waste of time and has nothing to do with most people like or play. I think the only person so concerned with the trends is music is you, so you can discredit them as soon as they emerge. Music changes over time, thank god, it's fluid. There will never be another KDJ I can't kick this feeling just like there will never be another SEAWOLF and there are great reasons why both of them were made, and there's equally great reasons why people have moved on and those records should never be made again. Your trendspotting is getting trendy, not to mention tedious. Just observe that trend if you will please... and please stop casting yourself as a rebel, it just reads as ignorance. Matt MacQueen -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:02 PM To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here reflect the latest trends like the popularity KDJ and 'soulful house' ect..
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
But there is a difference between being trendy and having your tastes develop along side a developing trend (or shall I say continuum) in music style. sh*t if we didn't develop and move along we'd all be discussing the latest tunes sung on Sesame Street. like I've said before - things change Steve - WAKE UP! it ain't 1991 anymore. I could have sworn you said at one point you were into minimal techno because it was future music - well, follow along (and I do mean follow) MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Matthew MacQueen gy.net [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 07/28/03 04:02 PMSubject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here reflect the latest trends like the popularity KDJ and 'soulful house' ect.. on 7/28/03 3:57 PM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage Ha! Steve I always like how you keep us abreast of the latest trends in dance music.. as I can't be bothered much myself to worry if I'm following trends or bucking trends properly or not. I'm too busy finding and playing out the music I like. But if any music or DJ styles I post about fall in or out of trendiness can you please let me know and I'll change accordingly. Best! Matt MacQueen
(313) KDJ recommendations?
hello, I've been curious about his music for a while. I recently picked up the new album and also Silentintroduction, but what I'm really wondering is which songs exactly are people refering to when they are comparing similarities to him and either Prince or Marvin Gaye? thanks! Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
Re: (313) Kraftwerk spotted at Tour de France!
- Original Message - From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: (313) Kraftwerk spotted at Tour de France! VeloNews (a cycling site) has coverage of the Tour de France, with a pictures gallery of shots of the Tour and along the roadside. Although both were heavily disguised, they managed to get a shot of Ralf und Florian watching the Tour by the roadside: http://images.velonews.com/images/gallery/4690.5799.t.jpg Somebody tell them to go easy on the sun screen. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) KDJ recommendations?
I've been curious about his music for a while. I recently picked up the new album and also Silentintroduction, but what I'm really wondering is which songs exactly are people refering to when they are comparing similarities to him and either Prince or Marvin Gaye? I think people generally mention Prince or Marvin Gaye in the context of KDJ sampling them, rather than actually sounding like them himself... Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Crai g in Leeds)
- Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: (313) the B-52´s (Was: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds) And does anyone why carl craig put mesopotamia on his obsessive compilation, and why theo parrish also plays this track? Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Re:(313) Vestax or Technics
quote sh*t if we didn't develop and move along we'd all be discussing the latest tunes sung on Sesame Street. /quote Hey, cut down the Sesame bashing!! ^_^ -- -- Andrew Hodgson - Engineering x5235 -- Jim Henson's Creature Shop, Camden --
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
on 7/28/03 4:38 PM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irrelevant to my point. What I observed is your trend vigilance and I perceive it as a waste of time and has nothing to do with most people like or play. I think the only person so concerned with the trends is music is you, so you can discredit them as soon as they emerge. this coming from someone who plays mostly '80s music on his radio show. I know your jsut trying to educate people but that's so typical why not more minmal techno and early '90s techno? Music changes over time, thank god, it's fluid. everything does not change for the better you could say the same for trends. I never stated all new music is bad. There will never be another KDJ I can't kick this feeling just like there will never be another SEAWOLF and there are great reasons why both of them were made, and there's equally great reasons why people have moved on and those records should never be made again. I disagree, there's always room for improvement especially if you have a formula that works. Look at all the Detroit labels trying to sound like the '80s with electro. Your trendspotting is getting trendy, not to mention tedious. Just observe that trend if you will please... and please stop casting yourself as a rebel, it just reads as ignorance. And making such comments about pitch is not considering this is the 313 list? I'm just telling it like I see it.
Re: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics)
- Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) set times (was Vestax or Technics) I've been thinking about this quite alot lately as I'm ramping up to start my regular Saturday night gig and hopefully nurture a following. So, what's up in your neck of the woods - how many places have the standard guard that you can rely on without the extra guest DJ? every night they present? I find that most residencies here are on non-Friday, non-Saturday nights or smaller clubs. On the weekends people go out for names mostly, and I think it's getting harder to maintain a week-in, week-out following in a really active scene. I don't think this is necessarilly a bad thing, as what you lose in consistency you gain in diversity. People are too well informed now to do the same thing every week, and information is easy to come by, what with the inter-net and all. I think a lot of this is regionalized though. Most of the weekend club nights in DC had residents when I lived there. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
