RE: (313) new order.
I didn't know shoegazing was important to the scene... Can anyone elaborate on this??? I love My Bloody Valentine. I think it was Lush and Slowdive that I also like quite a bit. ~Dave -Original Message- From: Allen Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:09 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new order. Massive influence in European circles, the Manchester scene was probably just as important as the UK shoegaze scene as far as influence on electronic music. As far as techno, or more specifically Detroit techno, it's hard to say but I wouldn't doubt it. As far as recommendations go, I would pick up Substance and Brotherhood from New Order and Heart Soul from Joy Division Hi, this question was probably asked a couple of times allready on this list... well... then once more. Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the development of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order? how did it influence what they were doing? Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order and detroit techno? And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band? Thanks, Maarten --- my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/ -- Allen Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fksche.com
Re: (313) new order.
I think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and the less-pop ones too. Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop artists as well. After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US. Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just reflect the listener's taste. If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes. Perhaps one of the defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong). Arthur Baker, Shep Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on. Much of the good stuff is available on Retro. But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff. Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring myself to taint the memory. Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most New Order fans. Why? Lots of theories abound, but in general the band more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together. By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The Other Two) Heath
(313) n.e.w. Prince!
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RE: (313) new order.
As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some amazing, severely under-rated music. -Original Message- From: laz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new order. I think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and the less-pop ones too. Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop artists as well. After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US. Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just reflect the listener's taste. If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes. Perhaps one of the defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong). Arthur Baker, Shep Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on. Much of the good stuff is available on Retro. But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff. Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring myself to taint the memory. Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most New Order fans. Why? Lots of theories abound, but in general the band more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together. By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The Other Two) Heath
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
If it isn't out till October how is everyone listening to this thing? jim - Original Message - From: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
Re: (313) new order.
That was the album I thought of as well. Absolutely classic. :) Their single Confusion was a huge crossover song. Back in the day you'd find this played at most *any* east coast club playing dance music, no matter what the genre. lisa Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - [snip] Personally, I'd put Power Corruption Lies at the top of your list, in terms of proper albums [snip]
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
hoox :P - Original Message - From: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer If it isn't out till October how is everyone listening to this thing? jim - Original Message - From: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
(313) global underground
would any UK 313ers know where i can find out the contact details of the global underground people ? there's no contact info on their website. perhaps someone has access to a UK music industry directory or something like that. hit me back privately if you might be able to help out. i have my reasons, honest :^) p
Re: (313) new order.
Yes, as for a Detroit connection remix wise, Kevin Saunderson remixed Round Round on Quest Records in 1989. Also, Steve 'Silk' Hurley did two remixes of Fine Time on the same label. Orrin - Original Message - From: laz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: Re: (313) new order. I think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and the less-pop ones too. Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop artists as well. After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US. Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just reflect the listener's taste. If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes. Perhaps one of the defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong). Arthur Baker, Shep Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on. Much of the good stuff is available on Retro. But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff. Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring myself to taint the memory. Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most New Order fans. Why? Lots of theories abound, but in general the band more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together. By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The Other Two) Heath
RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I recently went to a talk by Stanford Law Professor and media critic Lawrence Lessig where he said that in terms of practical real world copyright law as it is being applied these days, successful defense essentially depends on how much money you have to spend on litigation. Kind of shocking to hear a distinguished law professor admit that. At 09:56 AM 8/5/2003 +0100, Ryan Snowden wrote: Mark All as Read |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 05 August 2003 08:53 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? | | | the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james | track (nautilus i think it was) and turned it into a jungle |tune that | got released on a major and AFAIK didnt get sample clearance. | |Hmm. I can't believe that - big labels are usually pretty |weary of things like that - even if the track is perceived as |underground, or the sample is well disguised. It's far cheaper |to pay for the sample than to face the consequences after. | |anyway, I was wondering - why all the fuss even if Rolando |used a sample? some of UR's finest moments have pretty big |chunks of samples in. | |does it matter? | |oh, and one more thing! Mike Pickering - yep, OK, he did |M-People, but I think he's made his contribution - 52nd Street |anyone? Good Factory band, innovative etc. Give him a break | |my 2p's worth anyway. | |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
i guess that's the same as many areas of law on 6/8/03 4:10 PM, James Hurlbut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently went to a talk by Stanford Law Professor and media critic Lawrence Lessig where he said that in terms of practical real world copyright law as it is being applied these days, successful defense essentially depends on how much money you have to spend on litigation. Kind of shocking to hear a distinguished law professor admit that.
Re: (313) My London Visit (record shopping).
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Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I am talking about Richie Hawtin's work in general. Richie/Plastikman disappointed me in the last couple of years. That's my absolutely personal opinion. I don't want to see a new war about Richie Hawtin and his qualities on this list here. He was and is very important for our scene and he definitely did a lot for our music. @jim: Well, there are some promo CD floating around already, so I think the promotion machinery of Nova Mute already works. Arne garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: you're comparing plastikman releases to richie hawtin releases? or you're saying that consumed and artifakts didn't hold up to the plastikman records before them, but this one does? - Original Message - From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer In my opinion the new album is much more Plastikman again than the last ones. Richie concentrated again on the sound he got famous before he did such IMHO crappy stuff like the Orange 12. This is a worth foolow up to Muzik and Sheet One adapted to 2003. Will definitely be one of the important albums of 2003 for sure. Arne Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°° -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°°
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
[Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]] im not sure how im feeling. ive previously thought that every plastikman album was better than the one before it. but certain things about this im not feeling. the best part of consumed for me was how far in the background the kick drum was. not only was it not heavy, it just wasnt loud. in this new album, the kicks mostly stand out in front of the bass instead of being part of it like it was on consumed. the vocals dont necessarily bother me, but im not a huge fan of them either. i think its the second track that sounds like a weak rmx of one of the first couple tracks on consumed. that was pretty dissappointing as well. im not feeling this as much as consumed, though this is definitely one possible evolution of that sound. its just not the one i had been excpecting. i will say that mind in rewind is a funky track. I'm inclined to agree with Tom on this. I'd have to say I think this album sounds kind of like Consumed 1.1... Some parts of it are pretty rad (I like Ping Pong, Mind In Rewind, etc) but I really don't think he broke any new ground with this album and at the same time he didn't return to the acid sound like I was hoping. Consumed was a great album, but really stood out because it was so new and original. If this had been Sheet 1.1 instead, I really would've been feeling it more. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) new order.
O.L. From The Basement wrote: Yes, as for a Detroit connection remix wise, Kevin Saunderson remixed Round Round on Quest Records in 1989. Not just Kevin Saunderson, but Ben Grosse (also of Detroit, I assume; he mixed Good Life) as well. There's a nice discography at http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ although it doesn't really help sort out the, erm, confusion among the mix titles. You have to check the records.
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only half the experience. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
Re: (313) new order.
i'll never forget the first time i heard a bootleg of joy division performing ceremony. this was after it was already my favorite new order song. i felt like i was listening to a ghost. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:58 PM Subject: (313) new order. Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order and detroit techno? Aha! One of my favorite subjects, and for a long time my favorite band. I think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and the less-pop ones too. Of all of those that I named, New Order was arguably the moodiest, so you could follow that to mean that they were one of the more influential synth-pop bands, with the way the Detroit sound developed. Of course, you have to take into account industrial stuff, house, italo, etc as well, but I don't think you can discount their importance, although it would be hard to quantify I suspect, other than referencing old playlists maybe? And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band? Substance is an amazing compilation of revised (remixed and often extended) classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just reflect the listener's taste. Me, I love almost all of it - with Brotherhood and post-Technique stuff not quite living up to the normal standards in my mind. Low Life has great moments, and is coherent throughout (unlike Brotherhood IMHO - still love a couple of tracks on there though). Technique is brilliant, and some of the best dancefloor stuff was on that album. Personally, I'd put Power Corruption Lies at the top of your list, in terms of proper albums (f*ck 'Blue Monday', I'm talking about '5 8 6' and 'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?), and Movement would be a close second for me (although more along the lines of Joy Division than later New Order). Also make sure to get Factus, for the best versions of Everything's Gone Green and Temptation. Rawer than the cleaned up versions on Substance, which I also love, but ain't quite the same for me. Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring myself to taint the memory. I'll caution, that some of the poppier stuff may seem a bit saccharine on a first listen, but it may grow on you - may not. I wonder what I would think of it if I first heard it today??? Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) new order.
I tend to agree, but I still love Regret as a fantastic pop song. Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most New Order fans. Why? Lots of theories abound, but in general the band more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together. By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The Other Two) Heath
Re: (313) n.e.w. Prince!
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Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
I love the freaky bits, they're sort of what Kraftwerk are all about for me. UK tour would be great but not holding my breath, anyone know when Kraftwerk last appeared in the UK - was it Tribal Gathering? Anyone go to The Big Chill this weekend? Cinematic Orchestra were fantastic, but Francois K was a bit dissapointing...no techno! Also at the Big Chill, did any of the disco heads check Shatner's Bassoon AKA Bill Brewster and Paul Noble doing a Ron Hardy style set of edits and FX - 'absolutely rinsing' as junglists used to say, though my judgment at that point wasn't exactly at its most objective (ifyerknowhatimean). Dan. At 11:05 pm +0100 5/8/03, Andrew wrote: Yes, it's pretty nice, no great stylistic innovation but who cares when the melodies and textures are so good - highlights for me were the tracks Aero Dynamik and 'Elektro Cardiogram. Certainly worth purchasing + comes out on my birthday in the UK - hurrah! Yeah, that's what I thought. Even though it hasn't shaken the world of electrronics to its knees, I think it's more than a cut above most of the stuff that comes out. Not just the production either, a couple of tracks are real dancefloor material, and quite freaky in places. Maybe I don't hear enough, but in my opinion the confidence and fluency with the melodies and rhythms is very advanced. And it's great just to have some new output from the guys, hopefully a tour (that you can realistically get to) isn't far away?
(313) FW: Jeff Mills/Richie Hawtin 909
Got sent this today - thought there may be some interested peeps hiding away on the 313 ! - Original Message - From: Rizem / Provider Techno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Team-2db' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: Jeff Mills/Richie Hawtin 909 Hey guys, Any techno enthusiasts out there interested in purchasing a 909 used twice by Jeff Mills and once by Richie Hawtin, during tours to Adelaide (Australia) The 909 is also signed by Jeff Mills and Richie Hawtin and is in excellent working condition. If anyone is interested please contact me, or optionally if you know anyone who is interested please pass them onto me. The asking price is $1750 AUSD. Riz -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) test
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(313) Geology pt2
Can anyone tell me if the Planet E Geology v2 is mixed or separate tracks like the first one ? Thanks in Advance. Rav
Re: (313) Geology pt2
the cd is mixed, the vinyl features four songs from the cd, unmixed. wojtek On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 03:05 US/Pacific, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: Can anyone tell me if the Planet E Geology v2 is mixed or separate tracks like the first one ? Thanks in Advance. Rav
Re: (313) My London Visit (record shopping).
Smallfish is probably the best, though if you're down that way the bi-wire shop is supposed to be good - I've never managed to make it myself, but their online catalogue is good and if I remember rightly you have to make an appointment any more. I'm sure Amanda's lurking somewhere here with the address or the URL. Also try Koobla on Berwick Street, a bit like smallfish, though perhaps a little less diverse, but with a generally good selection. Personally I reckon the basement in Islington is thorougly average. -s - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) My London Visit (record shopping). - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: (313) My London Visit (record shopping). So... should I check the Reckless n1 soul basement in Islington? Is it any good? I think I will visit Reckless Soul Dance, Music Video Exchange in Nothing Hill and the Reckless n1 Soul basement... I didn´t like the MVE´s in Camden and Soho that much last time I went. I have 2 full days, so maybe I wanna check some more stores... Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies Vinyl Junkies. :) _ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess
(313) new purpose maker
had another listen to this last night. just wanted to say its recommended! nice deep techno, nothing too clever, just nice. A side is the one for me (the reprise of changes of life is OK, but the a-side is the killer) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Subject: My London Visit (record shopping).
So... should I check the Reckless n1 soul basement in Islington? Is it any good? It depends on how much time you have! I've found good things there but its stock is smaller than the Berwick Street store, and it is quite a bit more expensive; as with the the other store hip hop and disco/boogie are priced very high and you could save money searching EBAY or US dealers even with the additional shipping. You should also check the middle racks on the ground floor right by the door as they put a lot of dance in there (and price it cheaper than downstairs ;) ) I didn´t like the MVE´s in Camden and Soho that much last time I went. I have 2 full days, so maybe I wanna check some more stores... MVE has moved across the road in Camden to a bigger store and they have managed to find some spectacularly rude staff, including moving the guy from Soho there who chucked record sleeves at me and went and sulked out the back when I questioned his adding up. You're better off concentrating on the Soul and Dance Exchange in Notting Hill Gate where the staff are friendly and you can always find good stuff, plus if you have time over you can skim the bargain basement and first floor where you can turn up rare and classic records for 50p if you have a few hours to dig through lorry loads of wack trance promos... The Indie shop also has a dance section on the right on the way in and is sometimes worth a quick 10 minute scan. I remember I stayed 4 hours in Reckless Soul Dance last time I want there... Ohh.. was I a happy kid (with little money left when I came out). Reckless is the other shop I would always recommend spending several hours in - just remember to check the condition there as they aren't as fussy about what they sell as MVE! Around there you can check MVE's stock in 10 minutes (don't worry, the tosser who throws record sleeves at customer has been moved to Camden), Selectadisk sometimes is a good place to find stuff, and lots of good smaller shops selling new stuff down Berwick Street and the streets directly off it - Sounds of the Universe on Broadwick Street is particularly nice (they also run the Soul Jazz label). If you like hip hop then Bongos on Poland Street (parallel to Berwick Street in the direction towards the Marble Arch end of Oxford Street) is worth a visit... You could also check out Smallfish in Hackney and Rough Trade in Covent Garden... Cheers David BTW New Order - if you can find the 12 of Video 586 that is worth picking up - despite being recorded in 1981 it sounds very much like a techno record, moreso than anything they recorded since... Although it appears to be a one-side release there is a sneaky bonus track on the blank side right by the label! Substance is a good overview covering all the singles to the point where they stopped trying; if I remember rightly the CD has a bonus disk with all the b-sides too - you may do well to pick the cd up and find which ones you like as the 12s are very easy to find, probably moreso than the Substance vinyl! They had a policy of not putting more than one single on an album so their albums also contain lots of original material - Basically anything on Factory will not be wack!
(313) OT - The Roots touring OZ in October???
hi all sorry for the OT post, but thought someone out there might know. i thought i heard tonite on local oz station JJJ that the roots are touring in australia in october? anyone know if this is true? Cyclone, you're always in the know, have you heard anything? cheers nath
(313) herbert
does anyone know the name of the track herbert plays @ 10 days off 23min 30 into the 1st part of the mix? (http://www.houseblogger.com/). Mr oizo comes out of it. ive heard shake play it before a couple of times also also the track he plays 2:50 into the 2nd part of the mix (Frank sinatra??). Joe Babylon also mixes it in his Best Kept Secret submerge mix thanks in advance ed
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it Just listened to this for the first time and it was a terrible disappointment. It had a few moments, but at least until track 6 I could hardly believe how devoid of substance it was. I don't think it sounds a lot like any of the previous Plastikman albums, but then there's no reason why it should...I always thought it was pretty sad that he got some sort of backlash when Consumed came out cos it didn't sound like all the other stuff. Plastikman always had an innovative edge that pushed things in a different direction with each chapter, but to me this album sounds like it was made by someone who'd heard all the previous PM work and wanted to make something that sounded like it was made by the same person, although that hardly makes sense as it was in fact made by the same person. It just sounds to me like imitation rather than innovation. Imitation of his own past masterpieces, perhaps, although I also hear strains of Taylor Dupree, 12K style dry, bitty minimalism...just not done very well at all, and with some rather nauseatingly bad use of delay effects. The production is kind of hard to deal with, with a lot of very dry and tight kick drums (that would in fact sound excellent on a club rig, so no real complaints there). That said, it has no space to it, it's very...close. I just could not connect with it until he started to bring in some atmosphere in track 6 or 7. If I had to compare it to a previous album it's definitely most similar to Consumed, which instantly became my favourite PM album when I first heard it (only last year)...but this one has none of the depth, character or atmosphere of that album. It doesn't sound like he's really tried very hard...or tried at all. The album, from what I hear (and as the name might suggest) is supposed to be the best ever glimpse into the mind of Mr Hawtin...sounds to me like he really needs a rest. I've seen a bunch of reactions to it so far...everything from shit, to going to be a classic, to very good. Personally, I'd buy some of the tracks if they came out on 12 vinyl (track 8 in particular is very good) but overall I'd be loth to shell out for the whole album as it's really not got much going for it. That last track, as has been mentioned, is a definite taste of the PM of old, but I've already got several albums of that stuff. h, I really was looking forward to this album, but it doesn't even approach the levels of what I was expecting. Anyway, these are all just my opinions after one listen. Perhaps parts of it will grow on me, and I'll still definitely go along if he does a Plastikman live show.
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Jeez, I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? jim - Original Message - From: Max Duley / ARCart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as International Techno DJ? I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the guy. That won't make me buy a bad record though... - Original Message - From: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Jeez, I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? jim - Original Message - From: Max Duley / ARCart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it
RE: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I've not heard it either, and the range of opinions I've heard about it so far is broad enough for me not to have decided in advance whether I'm going to buy it or not - at least it hasn't been universally panned! This year is shaping up to be quite a big one when it comes to people with highly respected back catalogues reappearing on the scene with new material - what with Kraftwerk, LFO and Plastikman all putting out albums this year. And I bet all of those artists have experienced a great many sleepness nights, what with all the worries over how their new stuff will be perceived in comparison to the older, classic material. But from what I've heard about these three albums so far, they all seem to have come up with the goods, broadly speaking. The LFO album is probably the one I'm most looking forward to, though, judging by what I've heard so far... Brendan -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 14:32 To: The Deliverator; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as International Techno DJ? I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the guy. That won't make me buy a bad record though... - Original Message - From: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Jeez, I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? jim - Original Message - From: Max Duley / ARCart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
You're right Brendan, I can confirm that the LFO tracks are a complete return to form. I like the new Kraftwerk Album, wasn't keen on The Mix or Café, but the new one is great in the car and we've been mixing in tracks live and it seem to work. I'm looking forward to the Plastikman album. Publish and be damned I say. It's a couple hours of music, no-ones dead :) md 6/8/03 1:36 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've not heard it either, and the range of opinions I've heard about it so far is broad enough for me not to have decided in advance whether I'm going to buy it or not - at least it hasn't been universally panned! This year is shaping up to be quite a big one when it comes to people with highly respected back catalogues reappearing on the scene with new material - what with Kraftwerk, LFO and Plastikman all putting out albums this year. And I bet all of those artists have experienced a great many sleepness nights, what with all the worries over how their new stuff will be perceived in comparison to the older, classic material. But from what I've heard about these three albums so far, they all seem to have come up with the goods, broadly speaking. The LFO album is probably the one I'm most looking forward to, though, judging by what I've heard so far... Brendan -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 14:32 To: The Deliverator; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Perhaps making great music doesn't sit well with a hectic lifestyle as International Techno DJ? I haven't heard the new LP yet, but I do feel sorry for the guy. That won't make me buy a bad record though... - Original Message - From: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Jeez, I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore. It's always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it? jim - Original Message - From: Max Duley / ARCart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it
RE: (313) dan curtin mix
13. tres demented demented (or just crazy) planet-e Just want to say that I'm glad I'm hearing the Tres Demented track all over the place at the moment (contrary to my expectations that it would be avoided as just too out-there) or are we all ... Peace k
RE: (313) dan curtin mix
13. tres dementeddemented (or just crazy) planet-e Just want to say that I'm glad I'm hearing the Tres Demented track all over the place at the moment (contrary to my expectations that it would be avoided as just too out-there) or are we all ... yeah i agree, tho the main track for me on the ep is the Demented Drums Version, the track with that big dropping synth noise and the warm pads that come in after thatpure class. dan drops that at the start of his mix... the demented (or just crazy) mix hasn't really hit me yet as it's a bit too shouty for mefor want of a better way of describing it. robin...
(313) Big Chill
but Francois K was a bit dissapointing...no techno! You should have hung around - he played a few obvious things which are still techno as far as I am aware - Strings of Life by Rhythim Is Rhythim, Black Water by Octave One (its still techno even though he played the instrumental), that new Carl Craig and Laurent Garnier one... Maybe now they are well known they are no longer techno!?! Mainly house set though, but that's what I was expecting... Not a great deal of techno on the bill at the Chill: Freddy Fresh was my pick of the weekend playing lots of sample-ridden electro mash-ups that I'm sure will never ever get cleared... Then Mike Paradinas played a great old skool selection on Sunday afternoon Mr Scruff was as ever good though it would be nice if he would step aside and let someone else head the bill for once... Hexstatic get better and better everytime I see them - I think its a case of computer technology finally catching up with them! Their recorded material tends to be a little weak but when they're mixing up Fools Gold and WFL with Public Enemy and that Boots Are Made For Walking mashup and the Chic remix they cannot do wrong :) As usual it was good fun but it would be nice to see a few of the no talent mates club being thrown off the bill (that Alucination guy is particularly weak - had to sit through one of his limp sets at their winter festival once - and I was not suprised to see his name up there yet again) and a few more interesting acts being added during the daytime... Cheers David
RE: (313) Big Chill
You should have hung around - he played a few obvious things which are still techno as far as I am aware - Strings of Life by Rhythim Is Rhythim, Black Water by Octave One (its still techno even though he played the instrumental), that new Carl Craig and Laurent Garnier one... Maybe now they are well known they are no longer techno!?! !?!? say what! KJ -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
(313) RE: Big Chill
Just had a dig around on Hexstatic and found they have a secret release of one of their sample heavy sets available directly from Ninja:
(313) RE: Big Chill
Just had a dig around on Hexstatic and found they have a secret release of one of their sample heavy sets available directly from Ninja: http://www.ninjatune.net/ninjashop/index.php?cat=4type=LPby=6code=EXACT001#EXACT001 CD and DVD too David
Re: (313) new order.
[Kelly M [EMAIL PROTECTED]] As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some amazing, severely under-rated music. Definitely. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
RE: (313) dan curtin mix
the demented (or just crazy) mix hasn't really hit me yet as it's a bit too shouty for mefor want of a better way of describing it. robin... Yeah understandable Robin! It's not something you put on at home and have a nice listen to. It's too confrontational! But I've heard it out at least twice (most recently on Saturday). In between 2 records, from a distance, between two hefty speakers, it works, imo. yeah i'd guess this was the casei was gonna mention the fact that i'd not heard it out yet in my first mail i look forward to that then! robin...
Re: (313) new order.
As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some amazing, severely under-rated music. Definitely. 'Getting Away With It' is probably one of my all-time favourite songs by any artist, oh! the melancholy! ;-)
Re: (313) n.e.w. Prince!
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Re: (313) Geology pt2
it was mixed by mike clark On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: Can anyone tell me if the Planet E Geology v2 is mixed or separate tracks like the first one ? Thanks in Advance. Rav
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
I gave it a listen this morning and decided I'll be buying it when it comes out. Ido wonder if there are will be any EPs or extra mixes etc. on vinyl coming out of this project besides the current album that is floating around in mp3. I bet there will be some cool packaging too. _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 04:07:30 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only half the experience. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer
12, cd single, full length cd, and 3xLP afaik - Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer I gave it a listen this morning and decided I'll be buying it when it comes out. Ido wonder if there are will be any EPs or extra mixes etc. on vinyl coming out of this project besides the current album that is floating around in mp3. I bet there will be some cool packaging too. _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 04:07:30 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] without giving up any priviledge information, i will say that this is an album you must buy in october. having the mp3 on your hard drive is only half the experience. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple of months, I had very high expectations. I don't think it lives up to what I've heard but it still is amazing albulm. The first track really sucks me in especially with the synthy opening. I think Ping Pong and Headcase are very good also. When listening to the albulm I think its important to keep in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind of Mr Hawtin. I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm which relates directly to the concept behind it all. I'm constantly amazed on how dark the albulm feels. I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must buy when it comes out in October. -K - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet seen anything about it. After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very impressed at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was able to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album that isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before. The whole album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with each song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a listener. All of the compositions include somewhat basic production methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that don't quite work. The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the description. The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space and feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence akin to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik). This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding some new elements. Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely new. Buy on site. -dmd
(313) kraftwerk interview
ok gang- looks like i'm gonna get a few minutes on the phone with kraftwerk (not sure who yet). So I wanted some input as to what i should ask. they only want to talk about the new recordings. no old stuff. any sugestions.
Re: (313) kraftwerk interview
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok gang- looks like i'm gonna get a few minutes on the phone with kraftwerk (not sure who yet). So I wanted some input as to what i should ask. they only want to talk about the new recordings. no old stuff. Any remixes planned for the new material? Will anything else get it's own 'single' release? Are you sure you'll actually be talking to them and not a recording of some robots? cheers Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) kraftwerk interview
Sounds cool. I guess it will be Ralf as he is the only one who does interviews in these days. It would be cool if you could ask them about the relationship with UR and Mad Mike as they even played the UR remix of Expo 2000 during their recent shows. Furthermore are there plans for even new UR mixes from the Tour de France album tracks? As well as for an upcoming tour and perhaps planned releases in the next months? I wish I could talk to them :-) Best wishes, Oli - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: (313) kraftwerk interview ok gang- looks like i'm gonna get a few minutes on the phone with kraftwerk (not sure who yet). So I wanted some input as to what i should ask. they only want to talk about the new recordings. no old stuff. any sugestions.
RE: (313) kraftwerk interview
Did they approach the new material in their normal way or did the process differ? -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 19:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) kraftwerk interview [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok gang- looks like i'm gonna get a few minutes on the phone with kraftwerk (not sure who yet). So I wanted some input as to what i should ask. they only want to talk about the new recordings. no old stuff. Any remixes planned for the new material? Will anything else get it's own 'single' release? Are you sure you'll actually be talking to them and not a recording of some robots? cheers Matt MacQueen --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03
(313) Technasia interview
New interview with Technasia at www.bleep43.com - The next Bleep43 party is a little special, a nano-festival to be precise. -==- 86 - Sat 16/Sun 17 August @ www.publiclife.org Saturday 3 pm - 2 am Free B4 7pm, £3 after John Kennedy; Jamie Croyden (Chango)*, Toby Frith, Hazell (Outlet), Nick Wilson*, Orphan* Sunday 6 pm - 11 pm £3 Mira Calix (Warp), Req One (Warp), Nick Craddock, more TBC *live
Re: (313) new order.
- Original Message - From: Kelly M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:42 AM Subject: RE: (313) new order. As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some amazing, severely under-rated music. And just as amazing and under-rated as that was, the second was dissapointing. Did anyone ever read those liner notes? It was like Bernard Sumner had woken from a twenty-year drug coma and realized there were *actual social problems* in the world [SHOCK]. That put me off the whole thing, and then the music kinda sucked too. The first one is definitely amazing though, as you say. That was my musical wet dream at the time, and lived up to it! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) kraftwerk interview
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok gang- looks like i'm gonna get a few minutes on the phone with kraftwerk (not sure who yet). So I wanted some input as to what i should ask. Maybe ask them if they've been out to a club lately? And which ones? Sounds trite but it would be nice to know, to measure if and how they keep in touch. Thanks, Andrew
(313) Plastikman -- Closer....soundbytes?
Hallo, I have been awfully busy working, taking classes, and studying for my LSAT (ugh) during the past month. Does anyone know where I could hear a bit of this without searching for hours? Thanks. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Big Chill
Oh dear, sounds like I should definitely have been a bit more patient since all those tracks qualify as techno in my book. Agreed that Freddy Fresh was good - really heavy breaks + an absolutely fantastic moustache Forgot to mention Bugz In The Attic - they were excellent, really maintaining a solid groove throughout their set despite at least 3 different DJs spinning. Hadn't heard them do their thing before and was actually pretty impressed. The whole laidback yet driving vibe of their set actually slightly reminded me of the early days of Speed at the Mars Bar. As for Alucidnation, admittedly he's not got the greatest stage presence, but in the right setting his live shows can be really affecting, then again I am quite a militant ambient lover. If we're talking anodyne then Nitin Sawhney was a personal low point for me, apart from the backstage loos. D. At 03:48 pm +0100 6/8/03, David Hampson wrote: but Francois K was a bit dissapointing...no techno! You should have hung around - he played a few obvious things which are still techno as far as I am aware - Strings of Life by Rhythim Is Rhythim, Black Water by Octave One (its still techno even though he played the instrumental), that new Carl Craig and Laurent Garnier one... Maybe now they are well known they are no longer techno!?! Mainly house set though, but that's what I was expecting... Not a great deal of techno on the bill at the Chill: Freddy Fresh was my pick of the weekend playing lots of sample-ridden electro mash-ups that I'm sure will never ever get cleared... Then Mike Paradinas played a great old skool selection on Sunday afternoon Mr Scruff was as ever good though it would be nice if he would step aside and let someone else head the bill for once... Hexstatic get better and better everytime I see them - I think its a case of computer technology finally catching up with them! Their recorded material tends to be a little weak but when they're mixing up Fools Gold and WFL with Public Enemy and that Boots Are Made For Walking mashup and the Chic remix they cannot do wrong :) As usual it was good fun but it would be nice to see a few of the no talent mates club being thrown off the bill (that Alucination guy is particularly weak - had to sit through one of his limp sets at their winter festival once - and I was not suprised to see his name up there yet again) and a few more interesting acts being added during the daytime... Cheers David
Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
bring on the tour! At 11:05 pm +0100 5/8/03, Andrew wrote: Yes, it's pretty nice, no great stylistic innovation but who cares when the melodies and textures are so good - highlights for me were the tracks Aero Dynamik and 'Elektro Cardiogram. Certainly worth purchasing + comes out on my birthday in the UK - hurrah! Yeah, that's what I thought. Even though it hasn't shaken the world of electrronics to its knees, I think it's more than a cut above most of the stuff that comes out. Not just the production either, a couple of tracks are real dancefloor material, and quite freaky in places. Maybe I don't hear enough, but in my opinion the confidence and fluency with the melodies and rhythms is very advanced. And it's great just to have some new output from the guys, hopefully a tour (that you can realistically get to) isn't far away?
Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
Ralf mentioned in an interview in a Swiss newspaper that they are considering an autumn/winter of Europe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks bring on the tour! At 11:05 pm +0100 5/8/03, Andrew wrote: Yes, it's pretty nice, no great stylistic innovation but who cares when the melodies and textures are so good - highlights for me were the tracks Aero Dynamik and 'Elektro Cardiogram. Certainly worth purchasing + comes out on my birthday in the UK - hurrah! Yeah, that's what I thought. Even though it hasn't shaken the world of electrronics to its knees, I think it's more than a cut above most of the stuff that comes out. Not just the production either, a couple of tracks are real dancefloor material, and quite freaky in places. Maybe I don't hear enough, but in my opinion the confidence and fluency with the melodies and rhythms is very advanced. And it's great just to have some new output from the guys, hopefully a tour (that you can realistically get to) isn't far away?
(313) Re: AUXMEN LIVE /DJ K-1 EUROPE TOUR
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(313) dying for some great DJ mixes
I've spent a long day in front of this computer without any music so if you could - point me in the direction of your top 5 (online). Any style - just want to hear some good mixing and/or selection. thanks MEK
Re: (313) OT - The Roots touring OZ in October???
nathan goode wrote: hi all sorry for the OT post, but thought someone out there might know. i thought i heard tonite on local oz station JJJ that the roots are touring in australia in october? anyone know if this is true? Cyclone, you're always in the know, have you heard anything? Apparently they're out as part of the Livid festival. In Sydney the Livid festival is on 11 October. Not sure about the rest of the country. And I also haven't heard of any side shows, but you never know.
(313) dj doco
some cool peeps included in this doco about djing http://www.stepfilm.com/index.htm
