(313) BASSics website?
anyone know what happened to the www.bassics.de site? they were quite useful for listening to detroit house releases. heck, i don't think i would have ever been turned on to the funky chocolate label if it were not for BASSics. cheers, lrh
Re: (313) Akufen contact info?
Scott T-funk wrote: Any have contact deets for Akufen? Or his agent? His agent is Jon Berry at Regenerate Industries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps. Take care. Andrew Duke -- Jason Trenholm was born 31 August 1969 and died 1 January 2004. We met when we were 5 years old; he was my best friend for the next 29 years. * http://cognitionaudioworks.com * -Andrew Duke releases out now: Just Because You Can Doesn't Mean You Should (caw022) More Destructive Than Organized (caw021) Take Nothing For Granted (caw020) Environmental Politics (and/9) Sprung (bleep12) *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* Highest Common Denominator (pie010) Physical and Mental Health (fc1) 74'02 (split with Hypo) (tsunami-addiction) Sit/Stand: Live Humidity (caw016) 09X90 (caw015) --audio clips ordering info: http://cognitionaudioworks.com
Re: (313) Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context
Is that a different Is it All Over My Face than the Loose Joints track? I thought Steve D'aqasito was behind that project. Its too bad there are so many horribly dated 12s and remixes produced by Arthur Baker for every Go Bang. I never know what to expect when I pick one up in the used bins. Jacking the Opera House for example, though the production isn't so bad even on that dated wonder. At 02:31 PM 4/7/2004, you wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] There was a repress recently of SLX-0 recently which has Go Bang #1 and Clean On Your Bean #5, if you want to play AR out on Vinyl. Go Bang #1 is a brilliantly lateral jazzy disco track, and Clean On Your Bean is nice as well. i think the sleeping bag version of that 12 is always in print. ditto with the west end is it all over my face which might be one of the most dancefloor crushing songs of all time. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context
Its too bad there are so many horribly dated 12s and remixes produced by Arthur Baker for every Go Bang. I think you might have your wires crossed. Arthur Baker was nowt to do with Go Bang, it's a Dinosaur L track. but, anyway, wanted to second Michael's recommendation, it's a brilliant LP. Everyone should own one.. Daniel Wang made some interesting comments about Arthur Russell in an interview in Faith magazine. and, there's also a great article about Arthur there too, check it out! http://www.faithfanzine.com/faith.html go to features also check Nick The Record's Arthur Russell shrine here http://www.djfriendly.co.uk/arthur.php?PHPSESSID=8d51b9dc89be7df72ee9245eb5dc0d93 blah, sore head this morn. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
I just picked up one of the new theo - natural aspirtaions with Split Me Open on it, such a beautiful track. Anyway, they have all three at dancetracks in nyc for $7.50US . Buy buy! oops, sorry to talk about theo again (what is it? 60 % of posts on the lists are about him?) but, whats this! is this the new sound signature? I was loving that last natural aspirations thing. or is this on the new LP and I'm just being very stupid? while I'm on about theo, there's a new-ish mix cd floating about. Grey cover. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) new Mills
just read the following on littledetroit.net there's a new Mills coming, and it's some follow-up to Growth! now there's a fierce record. I still remember where I was when I first heard that on a big system. what a track. conjured up visions of things in my head and all sorts. he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new Mills
he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html I love this bit: We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So by, lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of vinyl Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :)
RE: (313) new Mills
what gets me is his workload, not only is he here there and everywhere and releasing more records than anyone else he is now releasing a score for a film in May!!.I mean is he sponsored by red bull or something :) -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:02 To: Alex Bond; 313 Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html I love this bit: We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So by, lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of vinyl Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :)
RE: (313) new Mills
What film do you speak of, Ian? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:10 AM To: Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills what gets me is his workload, not only is he here there and everywhere and releasing more records than anyone else he is now releasing a score for a film in May!!.I mean is he sponsored by red bull or something :) -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:02 To: Alex Bond; 313 Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html I love this bit: We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So by, lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of vinyl Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) new Mills
It's in the article, a Buster Keaton movie. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills What film do you speak of, Ian? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:10 AM To: Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills what gets me is his workload, not only is he here there and everywhere and releasing more records than anyone else he is now releasing a score for a film in May!!.I mean is he sponsored by red bull or something :) -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:02 To: Alex Bond; 313 Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html I love this bit: We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So by, lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of vinyl Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) new Mills
thanks Ryan :) BTW the radio was wicked last night Rob its Buster Keaton movie 'The Three Ages' -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:17 To: 'Robert Taylor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Cc: Subject: RE: (313) new Mills It's in the article, a Buster Keaton movie. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills What film do you speak of, Ian? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:10 AM To: Tom Churchill; Alex Bond; 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills what gets me is his workload, not only is he here there and everywhere and releasing more records than anyone else he is now releasing a score for a film in May!!.I mean is he sponsored by red bull or something :) -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 11:02 To: Alex Bond; 313 Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html I love this bit: We resolved the mastering with references to Classical Music. So by, lowering the overall level, we were able to conform to the format of vinyl Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) new Mills
Ha ha - in other words: we had to turn the level down so it'll be a quiet pressing :) heh! : ) I like this bit as well Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time oh, right, I see. didn't just fancy some posh coloured vinyl then Jeff? alex p.s. this is not a I hate Jeff Mills thread because I don't at all, I have the upmost respect for him. But, blimey, I can't help feeling everything he does seems to HAVE to have a concept or a reason, and, at times it comes across like he makes it all up after he's made the music to market it better. (to my un-cultured eyes anyway) suppose I shouldn't poke fun at it really, but, oh well. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) 313 in da 323 - April 2004
A few upcoming 313-related events (including our very own beloved Derek Plaslaiko) in Los Angeles, courtesy of ex-313'er Vidal Vargas (a.k.a. viagratek): [Non-313 content elided - Ed.] - Greg (who'll miss Derrick and Stacey 'cos he's still in London) Begin forwarded message: From: DROID BEHAVIOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: April 8, 2004 12:48:04 AM GMT+01:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: droidbehavior: techno newsletter 4.07.04 UPCOMING EVENTS full calender can be found at http://www.droidbehavior.com THURS. April 8 Headspace 10 Year by Dublab and KXLU. LIVE: Sutekh (Force Inc./Plug Research / Cytrax) AGF (Orthlorng Musork) Languis (Simballrec/Tigerbeat6/Plug Research) Phthalocyanine (Phthalo / Planet Mu) DJs: John Tejada (Palette/7th City) Dntel (Plug Research/Phthalo) Jasper (Cytrax / Delay / Force Inc.) 8FM (Eight Frozen Modules / Dubloner) 8-2am | $8 | 21+ located: Little temple @ 4519 Santa Monica Blvd, Silverlake SAT. APRIL 10 AVALON Detroit Techno Legends... DERRICK MAY [transmat] STACEY PULLEN [black flag] for $10 discount before 11:00pm, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (be sure to list your full name + number of guests) 9-5am | $15 | 21+ info: http://www.avalonhollywood.com located: AVALON @ 1735 N. Vine Street, Hollywood SAT. APRIL 17 Tribalizm by OAEMA Oliver Ho (Meta Records, London} Developer (Hexmode Records, America) Jasper (Force Inc, Germany / Cytrax Records, America) *live video by Robert Drummond [Meltdown Productions] 9-4am | $10 b4 11pm info: http://www.hexmode.com | 213.226.1960 FRI. APRIL 30 MIXTURE by cued up mixture serves it up every last friday of the month...100% crunk Derek Plaslaiko [Ghostly/Untitled-Detroit] Plexus [2HC-NYC] + MORE TBA 9:30-4am | 21+ info: http://www.mixtureclub.com located: KING KING 6555 Hollywood Blvd (corner of whitley) SAT. MAY 1 KRAFTWERK @ COACHELLA price: a sh!tload of money | info: http://www.coachella.com SAT. May 15 ANESTHETIX by Incision Kenny Larkin (Detroit, LA) - Art of Dance, Warp, Plus8, Peacefrog Hyperactive (Chicago, LA) - 4 Track, Plus8, Communique, Hybrid Kenneth Graham live p.a. (LA) - Controtleam, Visage, 4 Track, Peacefrog, info: http://www.telemason.com | 213.226.1905
RE: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
David Bate wrote: Hi Ryan, You are right, that it is his choice to do them, but just like other illegal activities, they generally have a higher price to them. It doesn't cost very much to grow pot, but have you looked at how much street prices? Just a fact of life, Illegal Items generally cost more. erm, you're not serious, are you? illegal activities don't set the price, it's the demand in the market that dedicates the price. for example, there's a huge demand for designer clothing [god knows why] but only limited availability, now popular brands get copied and sold cheap. isn't that illegal? those ugly edits are so expensive because theo wanted to make them this price, and people are willing to pay that amount of money for his records. got nothing to do with being unauthorised edits. jurren _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
RE: (313) new Mills
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew
RE: (313) new Mills
white is not even a colour. -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 12:58 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context
Those links are so cool! Wang is THE DUDE! Such interesting opinions... Check em out... Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 09:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context Its too bad there are so many horribly dated 12s and remixes produced by Arthur Baker for every Go Bang. I think you might have your wires crossed. Arthur Baker was nowt to do with Go Bang, it's a Dinosaur L track. but, anyway, wanted to second Michael's recommendation, it's a brilliant LP. Everyone should own one.. Daniel Wang made some interesting comments about Arthur Russell in an interview in Faith magazine. and, there's also a great article about Arthur there too, check it out! http://www.faithfanzine.com/faith.html go to features also check Nick The Record's Arthur Russell shrine here http://www.djfriendly.co.uk/arthur.php?PHPSESSID=8d51b9dc89be7df72ee9245eb5d c0d93 blah, sore head this morn. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Mills
But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) new Mills
To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) new Mills
My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) new Mills
No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you.
RE: (313) new Mills
the smallest room scenario... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Mills
My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have
RE: (313) new Mills
That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc
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Maybe this is just because his 909 is white! -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew
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you think he started doing a tune thinking this one is going on white vinyl? he probably got a discount while pressing or the labels looked ace on white i dont mind conceptualization but you can find a concept in hindsight in jusyt about anything yes, robert, even your arse. i´ll leave it up to someone else though. sorry The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and
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and a 909 is creme The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are
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It´s good to be critical, even about the wizard The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Bottom line is. We will all buy it... Conceptual, non conceptual... who cares..if it sounds good..i'll take it... As long as the white vinyl doesn't make it sound like it was recorded inside a huge empty can of baked beans I'm happy... p -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 12:13 To: quest pond Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills and a 909 is creme The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Well if we're going back to the old ways i'm hoping next we might see HM hood and mills return one day. Personally this is some of my favourite stuff from him. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:30 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) new Mills just read the following on littledetroit.net there's a new Mills coming, and it's some follow-up to Growth! now there's a fierce record. I still remember where I was when I first heard that on a big system. what a track. conjured up visions of things in my head and all sorts. he's still talking a load of twaddle though - check the link. http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article2836.html alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager
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I didn't think my explanation was particularly high-falutin! Perhaps his execution isn't as precise as might be, but I personally don't mind when any artists tries to articulate their motivation in a concept. Do we here this kind of slagging off about Sun Ra or John Coltrane? For me there is an element of intellectual dumbing-down in the club end of electronic music, and artists like Jeff or UR or Drexciya or Dopplereffekt or whoever else escapes my mind right now use concepts to deliver the music on a different - not higher! - level. And I like it! And I don't believe there's any such thing as 'just' a record, each one is, or should be, special. They deserve all the love, care, thought and attention as any other work of art. Although I wouldn't want the music to turn into an aural equivalent of Tate Modern, with little explanations on the sleeves to 'tell' you what you're listening to, like a lot of avant-garde electronics. Even still, no amount of explanation can make a whack track a fat track. And Jeff continually makes fat tracks. Nuff said. Peace, Andrew -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 12:17 To: 'Robert Taylor'; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You.
Re: (313) Concepts (was new Mills)
Personally, I think it's valid enough to question the true depth of some conceptual projects (not just Mills, but in general). Concepts can be a fantastic way of adding more weight to any artistic work, and a way of encouraging people to think more about what they are involved in and listening to. But if their purpose is partly to open peoples minds and get them to consider and dicuss as well as simply consuming, then surely it is also important that we are able to criticise them? Particularly as more and more conceptual ideas are blatently being used to distract from the mediocrity of the music itself. eg - would you buy a sh*t album just cause it had a nice cover or was pressed on purple crushed velvet vinyl? - Original Message - From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Robert Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or
RE: (313) new Mills/let's pray
*lets pray* dear lord, please shelter my inbox today as 313 continues to discuss jeff mills. In times of chaos, it is my inbox Lord that needs protection and strength from the mighty, mighty power of the tongue and musically drenched geeked minded emails that are about to deluge it on this glorious day. Dear Lord, please be on standby in the extreme case that the praise and dismissal of R.Hawtin and Carl Craig slip from the fingers of those who cyber surround me at this time. *AMEN* goodmorning.from this side. d NP:Four Tet..and now ODB...Four Tet remix Radiohead 'if you stop i'll put the killer ants in your pants' --- Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use
RE: (313) new Mills
No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and
RE: (313) new Mills
Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of
RE: (313) new Mills
I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would blindly defend him, when I wouldn't. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have
RE: (313) new Mills
Okay Ryan. I still think you're a fanboy ;) -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would blindly defend him, when I wouldn't. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the
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I *humbly* refer Robert and Ryan to the discussion a month ago about personal conversations being taken off list -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 13:35 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Okay Ryan. I still think you're a fanboy ;) -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would blindly defend him, when I wouldn't. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room'
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I am - I love Mills - but wouldn't blindly defend him! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:35 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Okay Ryan. I still think you're a fanboy ;) -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would blindly defend him, when I wouldn't. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights
RE: (313) new Mills
Humbly points out that it wasn't a personal conversation -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills I *humbly* refer Robert and Ryan to the discussion a month ago about personal conversations being taken off list -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 13:35 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Okay Ryan. I still think you're a fanboy ;) -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills I assumed that your reference to my admiration of him suggested that I would blindly defend him, when I wouldn't. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:32 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Eh? Not sure what you are driving at here -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, I don't at all - if you read my last mail you'll see that I don't do the concept thing myself, but I don't impose my opinions on others either. I mean, you could be cynical about absolutely anything, couldn't you?? This could be about football, politics, washing powder, whatever. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:25 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Nothing wrong with 'dissing' him if you think he's an airbag. Don't feel the need to defend and justify his every action just because you admire him as an artist and a DJ, Ryan. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:17 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received
(313) purple crushed velvet vinyl
Matt Chester wrote: eg - would you buy a sh*t album just cause it had a nice cover or was pressed on purple crushed velvet vinyl? Depends on what I felt the resale value might be. Tosh
Re: (313) new Mills/let's pray autoresponse
dear diana, thank you for you recent prayer request. unfortunately, I will be out of the office until sunday. love, peace and chicken grease, jc On 08.04.2004 07:27 , diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *lets pray* dear lord, please shelter my inbox today as 313 continues to discuss jeff mills. In times of chaos, it is my inbox Lord that needs protection and strength from the mighty, mighty power of the tongue and musically drenched geeked minded emails that are about to deluge it on this glorious day. Dear Lord, please be on standby in the extreme case that the praise and dismissal of R.Hawtin and Carl Craig slip from the fingers of those who cyber surround me at this time. *AMEN* goodmorning.from this side. d NP:Four Tet..and now ODB...Four Tet remix Radiohead 'if you stop i'll put the killer ants in your pants'
Re: (313) new Mills
everything he does seems to HAVE to have a concept or a reason, and, at times it comes across like he makes it all up after he's made the music to market it better. (to my un-cultured eyes anyway) reading the last couple of mails i'd have to agree - does anyone fall for this bullsh*t?
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Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy.
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you would, the colour. A white room has no colour so even that is stripped(smartly hinting back at my earlier mail...) -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t.
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you would, the colour. A white room has no colour so even that is stripped(smartly hinting back at my earlier mail...) no you wouldn't have any SENSE OF CHANGE and NO OTHER INFORMATION would be received by you. is black more information than white? do other colours change? -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Mills
Strangely enough, in a blue room i would think hey, blue, then again a white or black room would prob make me think about the lighting. I´d think get me outta here! anyway... -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 15:04 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills you would, the colour. A white room has no colour so even that is stripped(smartly hinting back at my earlier mail...) no you wouldn't have any SENSE OF CHANGE and NO OTHER INFORMATION would be received by you. is black more information than white? do other colours change? -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) Dear Mills
Dear God: Did baby Jesus cry all the time? My new brother does, and I don't like it, plus the 313 list keep going on about the same thing - Theo and Mills, on and on - month after month, Mommy says all babies do it, and I did when I was little. I'm 33 and a bit now. I think baby Jesus cried but I bet he didn't go on on. He's your son, so you must know the answer. We have a bet on it, so please write back Martin Dust
(313) UR-Return Of The Dragons
Anyone heard this? Is it a remix/remake, or a new track? sounds Hot! dying to hear it.. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Mills
State your opinion, don't impose it - that's my message. And it wasn't even directed at you. -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) new Mills
you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment - Original Message - From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills State your opinion, don't impose it - that's my message. And it wasn't even directed at you. -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) new Mills
Nah. -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 2:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment - Original Message - From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills State your opinion, don't impose it - that's my message. And it wasn't even directed at you. -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) new Mills
It´s amazing how much emotion theo and Mills stir with their fans, its powerfull music, so much is sure. Good to see people debate it so furiously. I guess its why i love Mills as a person as well as a musician although i cant really do anything with his theories it at least gets us to think about em. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Mills
Can I suggest that this 'dicussion' has now outlived it's usefulness? :-) We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! Let's all step back and ask ourselves whether we are acting with enough perspective. I.e. in the bigger scheme of things, are these matters really that important? I mean, discuss it yeah, beat an already dead horse and then when you're done with that, beat up each other verbally, is not the best idea: just a suggestion! Just to offer a positive alternative: has anyone got a tracklisting of the new Transmat cd due for release in Japan? Sorry if I missed it. Also, anyone heard it? Legally of course, if you downloaded it already from some 'cool' site, best keep it to yourself imho! Peace, k
RE: (313) new Mills
This one has, but the whole intention beside the point he makes i think of Mills is to make us think about music in a different way, which is a good thing. The point may be somewhat pretentiously put, but without discussion its surely not gonna get any better... -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 15:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Can I suggest that this 'dicussion' has now outlived it's usefulness? :-) We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! Let's all step back and ask ourselves whether we are acting with enough perspective. I.e. in the bigger scheme of things, are these matters really that important? I mean, discuss it yeah, beat an already dead horse and then when you're done with that, beat up each other verbally, is not the best idea: just a suggestion! Just to offer a positive alternative: has anyone got a tracklisting of the new Transmat cd due for release in Japan? Sorry if I missed it. Also, anyone heard it? Legally of course, if you downloaded it already from some 'cool' site, best keep it to yourself imho! Peace, k The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) UR-Return Of The Dragons
some very kind people emailed me to say this was on the submerge site a few days back but has now sold out. so www.submerge.com should have some more info. still interested to hear if anyone has a copy though - any reports?? ta alex *don't mention the war, *ahem*, I mean mills/theo cough cough* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new Mills
We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! 4!
Re: (313) new Mills
what are you talking about man! i say 6 robin... john harvey wrote: We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! 4!
RE: (313) new Mills
You're both wrong, it's 313 of course! Boom boom. k -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:41 PM To: john harvey Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills what are you talking about man! i say 6 robin... john harvey wrote: We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! 4!
RE: (313) new Mills
-Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 154 of course sorry, had to, can´t stop as justification of the mail, did anyone check the new Ghostface album? dunno what to make of it yet, but it might just be briliant... Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 15:43 To: robin; john harvey Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills You're both wrong, it's 313 of course! Boom boom. k -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:41 PM To: john harvey Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills what are you talking about man! i say 6 robin... john harvey wrote: We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! 4! The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) Plea from a digest reader ...
Hi, not wanting to sound like the net police or anything, but ... people seem to have got into the habit of quoting all of the original emails that relate to a subject when they reply to the list. Aside from the fact that it's generating a lot of unnecessary email traffic, it's making the 313digest practically unreadable; the last digest contained only 4 x new postings hidden amongst lots of recycled emails that I've had to scroll past several times today. It's making my eyes hurt and my scroll wheel is approaching meltdown ;-) I think it's perfectly reasonable to quote the relevant sections of previous posts for the sake of context, but I think remailing the entire thread is a little unnecessary from a signal to noise perspective. Does that sound like a reasonable request, or should I just give up on trying to read the digests and subscribe to the normal list ? Thanks, sImon (in a conceptual white room somewhere) ___ sImon Pascoe BiX
Re: (313) new Mills
you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. Absolutely, it's the uniformity that is key. Where did I state otherwise? well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. this is not philosophy. Please, let me know what is! Knowing philosophy yourself, you'll know that simple examples and thought experiments then lead onto the kind of inquiry that perhaps you mean by 'philosophy'. I'm guessing - or were you just having a dig? sorry, i was just having a dig - philosophy is too big a subject for this list! :]
RE: (313) new Mills
once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Mills
8/4/04 2:04 PM Peteri, [EMAIL PROTECTED] once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats Wrong way round fella...see me after class
RE: (313) new Mills
Im a one colour at the time kinda guy, multitasking is not my biggest talentlike i showed before... playground, 18.00? at the bikeshed... ; ) -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 17:17 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new Mills 8/4/04 2:04 PM Peteri, [EMAIL PROTECTED] once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats Wrong way round fella...see me after class The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Mills
we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way. once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Mills
wow! look at that! I rejoin the 313 list yesterday after taking months off and I find it exactly just as I'd left it. Same topic and everthing! gosh, thanks guys!! you didnt have to hold the conversation in an unending loop for little old me! It's almost as if time has stood still. :^) sean deason
RE: (313) new Mills
surprised? -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 16:14 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Robert Taylor'; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new Mills wow! look at that! I rejoin the 313 list yesterday after taking months off and I find it exactly just as I'd left it. Same topic and everthing! gosh, thanks guys!! you didnt have to hold the conversation in an unending loop for little old me! It's almost as if time has stood still. :^) sean deason The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Mills
sorry I have to laugh out load here but we have gone from Mills and a film to God to Angels and now colour is it or isn't it...ha ha and I thought my life was complicated :) on a 313 related note I got my Red Planet T-shirt from submerge in 1 week which I thought was really quick, I also got my DJ Bone EP's..now that's something to rant about I think there very good and I can't wait for the Album. Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 15:04 To: john harvey Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Mills
anyone check the new juan atkins on New religion? its totally great...didnt like the rmx but the original is ace The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Atkins
Where did you get hold of it? Heard that it's amazing, but haven't been able to track it down so far... - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills anyone check the new juan atkins on New religion? its totally great...didnt like the rmx but the original is ace
(313) New Juan (was Re: (313) new Mills)
i thought the remix was good (in a different way to the original), cleaner if that makes sense. can't wait for Juan's other stuff to land based on this. robin... Peteri, Jochem wrote: anyone check the new juan atkins on New religion? its totally great...didnt like the rmx but the original is ace
RE: (313) new Atkins
Matt, matt, what are you like?!? :-) http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new Atkins Where did you get hold of it? Heard that it's amazing, but haven't been able to track it down so far... - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills anyone check the new juan atkins on New religion? its totally great...didnt like the rmx but the original is ace
RE: (313) new Atkins
Hi Matt I picked mine up in Honest Johns!! London Paul -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 15:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new Atkins Where did you get hold of it? Heard that it's amazing, but haven't been able to track it down so far... - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills anyone check the new juan atkins on New religion? its totally great...didnt like the rmx but the original is ace
RE: (313) new Atkins
gotta promote the boys though www.rushhour.nl...got it in yesterday. theyre open till 21.00 tonite i think. ; ) The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) Happy Easter!
http://www.debsfunpages.com/easterswf/rapeasterbunny.swf (turn up the speakers!)
(313) new Pseudo
Just to post a fresh topic here... I've just heard the new Pseudo 005. French label and home of Richie Inkle, whereof I reviewed the debut release of some time ago for the courthouse.nl website. Some other excellent solo artist releases have passed, but now for the first time a sampler called 2+2=5 EP which reminds me a bit of Electronome's 4+10=12? title of his limited and experimental debut release of his own label Nu-Vorm. Anyways brand new deep and moody Techno Soul tracks by Richie Inkle, Arne Weinberg (u're on the list!), Ad.Lib (sounds like a venue in Glasgow!) and for me a total new name... Sierra Sam (but I guess someone on this list can tell something more about him) For you who are riding the next wave of deep Techno Soul... Essential !!! Dr. Nutcracker
Re: (313) new Atkins
I've obviously just come out of a coma then :-( Went around about 4 stores in London yesterday but none had it... Had a bitch of a time finding the Carl Craig Beanfield rmxs too - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Atkins gotta promote the boys though www.rushhour.nl...got it in yesterday. theyre open till 21.00 tonite i think. ; ) The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, James Hurlbut wrote: Is that a different Is it All Over My Face than the Loose Joints track? I thought Steve D'aqasito was behind that project. Russell collaborated with D'aquisto on Is It All Over My Face, I believe Russell played the electric piano on that track. The West End release comprises 2 versions of that track which were edits/remixes of the work Russell and D'Aquisto did. The male version featured vocals by 3 or 4 guys hauled down from the loft. Apparently the original session tapes covered hours of the assembled group jamming on the track, which then had to be edited down. The bazillion different Go Bang marked I think the beginning of the concept of 'Sample as Signifier' in dance music. Often the 'remixes' have nothing of the original track except the vocal sample.
(313) Aril Brikha email
Have any list members got a working email address for Aril? Pls hit me off list if so... Cheers...
RE: (313) new Atkins
can't wait for Juan's other stuff to land based on this. oh man. me either. Back To Basics part 2 is out 21st june and features a hot track called Move as well as 2 other brand newbies. but but but, on 19th July, the Fast Forward ep lands, and that is the hottest hottest thing. all 4 tracks absolute winners, quality all the way. B1 - I Love You is a vocal track with hot beats sounding like something from the ULR Future Sound EP, A1 - The Mission reminds me quite a bit of the Rob Hood thing on Metroplex, but still fresh, and the other two, you'll just have to wait...! ; ) alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Atkins
cant wait for those rmxes for kirk degiorgio from some peepz in amsterdam, sounds god when is that coming out again?? ; ) that aroy dee rmx is unbelievable -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 16:41 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Atkins can't wait for Juan's other stuff to land based on this. oh man. me either. Back To Basics part 2 is out 21st june and features a hot track called Move as well as 2 other brand newbies. but but but, on 19th July, the Fast Forward ep lands, and that is the hottest hottest thing. all 4 tracks absolute winners, quality all the way. B1 - I Love You is a vocal track with hot beats sounding like something from the ULR Future Sound EP, A1 - The Mission reminds me quite a bit of the Rob Hood thing on Metroplex, but still fresh, and the other two, you'll just have to wait...! ; ) alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) new Atkins
I couldn't find that in any of the London shops either. Crap init -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 15:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new Atkins I've obviously just come out of a coma then :-( Went around about 4 stores in London yesterday but none had it... Had a bitch of a time finding the Carl Craig Beanfield rmxs too - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Atkins gotta promote the boys though www.rushhour.nl...got it in yesterday. theyre open till 21.00 tonite i think. ; ) The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) Electrofunk Site
Electrofunk has relaunched their website. It features Live video footage and plenty of audio... http://www.electrofunk.com AND We've got these first. Re-release of Carl Craig's PE69-1 69 'Jazz Funk Classics' Listen http://www.submerge.com/shoppingcart/realaudio/PE69-1.rm Order http://www.submerge.com/shoppingcart/xsearch.php?word=PE69-1
RE: (313) new Mills
If, say, Phillip Glass, Sun Ra, Holger Czukay, or Brian Eno were to say the same thing as Mills is we'd all be going hmmm, yes, very interesting concept but we're not because Jeff Mills is *supposed* to make dance music and it just ain't right for him to conceptualize or attempt to put some thought (even if it's half baked) into his art. That's what it is - his art. And yes, it's mass produced for consumers but so are Rembrant's, Warhol's, and Rothko's. He's crossing pop culture with ideas of high art - he's not the first to do this so I'm not sure why everyone gets so upset when he presents a concept. At least he's not saying dude I put it on marble green vinyl because it looks so f*cking rad man! He's also not gluing sandpaper to the vinyl so you can still play it - he's trying to put some thought and effort into it while still presenting a usable product- you can't blame a man for trying something. MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED], 4.co.uk Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 04/08/04 07:12 AMSubject: RE: (313) new Mills A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting nonsense to explain it. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a concept. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. What do you mean by conceptual? -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills No, it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills My arse -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills But it's just a record -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive and know anything at all. So there! Peace, Andrew # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) new Atkins
cant wait for those rmxes for kirk degiorgio from some peepz in amsterdam bunch of pikeys I heard, those 'some peepz' ; ) that aroy dee rmx is unbelievable yeah, thats a hot very very deep club groove I like alot too when is that coming out again?? 16th August I think.. you can't beat the nwaq mix of kirk for pure dancefloor mayhem... you heard that Jochem? ; ) and Peel Seamus' rub of Freak 7 sounds really fresh too, all in all a pretty hot package I reckon. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Atkins
First floor i meet is gonna get teared apart with that twelve, awesome pressing tooThe new Aardvark stuff is def gonna do some damage too, havent heard the RushHour twelve but i think its a delsin one i heardmassive techno slammers.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 16:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Atkins cant wait for those rmxes for kirk degiorgio from some peepz in amsterdam bunch of pikeys I heard, those 'some peepz' ; ) that aroy dee rmx is unbelievable yeah, thats a hot very very deep club groove I like alot too when is that coming out again?? 16th August I think.. you can't beat the nwaq mix of kirk for pure dancefloor mayhem... you heard that Jochem? ; ) and Peel Seamus' rub of Freak 7 sounds really fresh too, all in all a pretty hot package I reckon. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) purple crushed velvet vinyl
Depends on which Prince tune it was MEK Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 04/08/04 06:59 AMSubject: (313) purple crushed velvet vinyl Matt Chester wrote: eg - would you buy a sh*t album just cause it had a nice cover or was pressed on purple crushed velvet vinyl? Depends on what I felt the resale value might be. Tosh
RE: (313) new Aardvark
havent heard the RushHour twelve but i think its a delsin one i heardmassive techno slammers.. hey, more like the pumping rushhour 12 he did last year, or a deeper thing? on Delsin? soon? Great, been a while since there was some aardvarck bizness. that Yoav B coming on delsin is some hot s**t as well. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Mills
once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all except white - there is no white in black and there is no I in team oh no - here come the nice men again to take me back to my white room MEK
RE: (313) new Aardvark
Yoav is Israeli, isn't he?? I believe he did a remix of Shake (or was that viceversa?) Anyone know how to contact him?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 4:07 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) new Aardvark havent heard the RushHour twelve but i think its a delsin one i heardmassive techno slammers.. hey, more like the pumping rushhour 12 he did last year, or a deeper thing? on Delsin? soon? Great, been a while since there was some aardvarck bizness. that Yoav B coming on delsin is some hot s**t as well. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) new Mills
What the f*ck is this? An episode of Changing Rooms?! MEK john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org lworld.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills 04/08/04 09:14 AM we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way. once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Atkins
Had a bitch of a time finding the Carl Craig Beanfield rmxs too yeah me too, i'm hoping another press is on the cards. robin...
Re: (313) new Mills
No no Sean - we're talking about what color we're going to paint the kitchen. MEK sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED], .com 'Robert Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 04/08/04 09:14 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) new Mills wow! look at that! I rejoin the 313 list yesterday after taking months off and I find it exactly just as I'd left it. Same topic and everthing! gosh, thanks guys!! you didnt have to hold the conversation in an unending loop for little old me! It's almost as if time has stood still. :^) sean deason
(313) Rushhour New Releases (this week) a bit OT
Hi. does anyone get the weekly mail from Rushhour? for some reason, I didn't get the new releases one this week. only back in stock. if anyone could be so kind as to forward it to me privately, I'd be most grateful. Many Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new Aardvark
yeah, like the rushhour, but louder... and Yoav did an aaron carl remix, israelite connection havent heard the RushHour twelve but i think its a delsin one i heardmassive techno slammers.. hey, more like the pumping rushhour 12 he did last year, or a deeper thing? on Delsin? soon? Great, been a while since there was some aardvarck bizness. that Yoav B coming on delsin is some hot s**t as well. Alex The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
