(313) The true music of the future
Ok, here's one for all the punters: http://www.mcrorie.ca/ I can't believe this exists. !Dave
Re: (313) The true music of the future
to bring a couple of topics together - that's what too much cold does to a person. just the right amount of cold gives you new york house disco, chicago house and detroit techno. but head to canada and too much cold gives you mcrorie. head too far south to the warmer climes and you get florida breaks and dj icey. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com 313@hyperreal.org cc 03/12/04 01:47 AM Subject (313) The true music of the future Ok, here's one for all the punters: http://www.mcrorie.ca/ I can't believe this exists. !Dave ForwardSourceID:NT000169B2
RE: (313) Gigapixal Zoom
and that's probably the commercial version of the product... -Original Message- From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:51 PM To: Martin Dust; 313 (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Gigapixal Zoom Martin Dust wrote: Gigapixal Zoom http://triton.tpd.tno.nl/gigazoom/Delft2.htm Pretty darn amazing Yes, indeed. If someone was sunbathing on one of those roofs and had tattoos, with a zoom feature liked that you'd be able to inspect the inker's work in the finest details! :) Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
RE: (313) Gigapixal Zoom
Escher and Dali would both be impressed. -Original Message- From: Carlos de Brito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:31 PM To: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks Cc: Martin Dust; 313 (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Gigapixal Zoom very amazin', indeed. on a different zoom tip, but noneoftheless worth checking: http://www.zoomquilt.machwerk.ws/zoom.htm (click and drag for your visual pleasure) c.
Re: (313) The true music of the future
What's with Canada and mullets? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] adersDigest.com To 12/02/2004 08:16 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) The true music of the future to bring a couple of topics together - that's what too much cold does to a person. just the right amount of cold gives you new york house disco, chicago house and detroit techno. but head to canada and too much cold gives you mcrorie. head too far south to the warmer climes and you get florida breaks and dj icey. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com 313@hyperreal.org cc 03/12/04 01:47 AM Subject (313) The true music of the future Ok, here's one for all the punters: http://www.mcrorie.ca/ I can't believe this exists. !Dave ForwardSourceID:NT000169B2
(313) (OT) need fourtet vs. pole MP3
this one tme in bandcamp Fourtet said 'detroit'... I'm looking for the MP3's of the Fourtet vs Pole album. I've been waiting on soulseek forever to DL from this person...but the fish ain't biting. thanks to anyone whose got them. diana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) The true music of the future
how precious - it's like Highlander meets Weird Al meets cheesy cover band! lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with Canada and mullets? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] adersDigest.com To 12/02/2004 08:16 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) The true music of the future to bring a couple of topics together - that's what too much cold does to a person. just the right amount of cold gives you new york house disco, chicago house and detroit techno. but head to canada and too much cold gives you mcrorie. head too far south to the warmer climes and you get florida breaks and dj icey. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com 313@hyperreal.org cc 03/12/04 01:47 AM Subject (313) The true music of the future Ok, here's one for all the punters: http://www.mcrorie.ca/ I can't believe this exists. !Dave ForwardSourceID:NT000169B2
Re: (313) Gigapixal Zoom
Really like that one, impressed... On 3 Dec 2004, at 02:31, Anton Banks (313) wrote: Escher and Dali would both be impressed. -Original Message- From: Carlos de Brito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:31 PM To: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks Cc: Martin Dust; 313 (E-mail) Subject: Re: (313) Gigapixal Zoom very amazin', indeed. on a different zoom tip, but noneoftheless worth checking: http://www.zoomquilt.machwerk.ws/zoom.htm (click and drag for your visual pleasure) c.
(313) Friday, again
Well, it's raining here in Sheffield - no surprise there and we've already know what everyone is up to on the weekend. But one thing did surprise me yesterday, how quickly this year has gone - so what been your best bits of 2004? So many good records, too many to mention but I think DJ Bone - Knowhere gets single of the year. LD party was great fun, had some great nights at Surgeon gigs. Weatherall playing in a pub for Dust. Kraftwerk live. Scoring loads of great mixes for LD and getting tons of support - makes you feel all warm Finally getting the label going was probably the big one for me... How about you?
(313) Black Dog question....
Recently acquired Age of Slack, Tactile, The weight but expecting it to be on black dog records it is actually on a record with no label. cat # - srt 9145 2820 and the weight is the liposuction mix Is this just a repress of the black dog 002 ep or ? Pretty sweet ep none the less p
(313) Re: Movement (was Re: (313) paging iridite crew)
On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nobody believes me- but i love detroit in the snow, cold, bitter winter. same with chicago for that matter. i just love winter. i never get sick of the melancholy. You could move out here to East Buttfu... erm, Sunland - it's a different kind of melancholy (the Gee, we're inside the LA city limits but miles from any signs of civilization variety) but it's still melancholy :-) i'm much more emotionally troubled by the absence of time in perpetually warm places like LA. Of course, the irony of this statement is that during the night before Josh sent this to the list, the LA news channels were proclaiming RECORD COLD!! in several places, where it actually went below the freezing point. (The temperature up in Lancaster, in the High Desert - about an hour's drive from downtown LA - got down to almost 15 F / -10 C on Wednesday night) On Tuesday and Wednesday nights my car thermometer registered under 40 F / 5 C when I got into it to go home. We have seasons here - they're just a little more subtle ;-) OK ... enough weather ... Ob313inda323: John Tejada at Create:Fixate in downtown LA on Dec. 4th ... John Tejada also at Boardners in Hollywood (Cherokee Ave.) on Dec. 10th ... Matthew Dear (with Swayzak) at Avalon/The Palace (Vine St.) on Dec. 11th ... Kenny Larkin at some tiny joint in Glendale (150 capacity) on Dec. 18th ... - Greg
Re: (313) Black Dog question....
Sounds like a repress - Cat should be BDP 02. Ken's asleep at the mo, but when he gets up I'll ask him... There's a discog here: http://www.dogsquad.co.uk/beatnik/frontpage.htm Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 09:31, placid wrote: Recently acquired Age of Slack, Tactile, The weight but expecting it to be on black dog records it is actually on a record with no label. cat # - srt 9145 2820 and the weight is the liposuction mix Is this just a repress of the black dog 002 ep or ? Pretty sweet ep none the less p
(313) Essential mix
'Ello, Felt bored at work today so i'd thought i'd look around for some mixes on the web to play out. Came across the BBC radio 1 Essential mix from last weekend done by BlackStrobe and this is cool! it's not ur average dullprogressivelookatmeiamasuperstardjandicanmixtworecordsfortwohoursmix but a very refreshing and wicked sounding electrotechnohousemix..check the tracklisting, it'sdifferent with Front 242, Ministry, Killing Joke, Metro Area, Phuture, Anthony Rother and The Sisters of Mercy all in one mix. Martijn http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/essentialmix/the_essential_mix_archive.shtml?20041128 Tracklisting BlackStrobe Essential Mix 28.11.2004: Rene Breibarth - 'Bob - Joss' (Treibstoff) Dextro - 'Can I Help' [The Mfa Remix] (Border Community) Unique 3 - 'S/T' (Warp) Test One - 'Test Four' (Warp) Metro Area - 'Miura' (Environ) Blackstrobe Fx 1 Château Flight - 'Les Antipodes' [Joakim Remix] (Versatile) Agent 86 - 'Spezial' (Freudinnen) Musk - 'Extra Stop' (Musk) Depeche Mode - 'World In My Eyes' (Mute) Sisters Of Mercy - 'Lucretia' (Warner) Killing Joke - 'Primitive' (EMI) Miss Kittin And The Hacker - 'Life On MTV' (Gigolo) Playgroup - 'Number One' [Black Strobe Remix] (Output) Joey Beltram - 'Mentasm' (RS) Blackstrobe Fx 2 Anthony Rother - 'Space' (Datapop) Wolfskull - 'Unknown' (Wolfskull 005) Rocco Branco - 'Kapital' (Platzirsch) Gigi Galaxy - 'Lips So Sweet' (White) Blackstrobe - 'Italian Fireflies' [Special Decks And Fx Version] (White) Anthony Rother - 'Back In Time' (Datapop) Nylon - 'The Mouse' (Rebel) Fixmer And Mc Carthy - 'Freefall' [The Hacker Remix] (Planete Rouge) Ministry - 'Mystery Of Love' (WEA) Ricardo Villalolobos - 'Easy Lee' [Soundhack Mix] (Playhouse) Purpose Maker - 'The Bells' (Axis) Garbage Queen - 'S/T' (White) Phuture - 'Cocaine' (Strictly Rhythm) Dirtcrew - 'Unknown' (Mood Music) Front 242 - 'Operating Track' (Wax Trax)
Re: (313) Green Dog question....
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Re: (313) Essential mix
thanks martijn, never thought i'd see a tracklisting with the sisters of mercy in it on 313 wicked...oops, giving too much away about my musical past :) robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 10:06, Martijn de Blaauw wrote: 'Ello, Felt bored at work today so i'd thought i'd look around for some mixes on the web to play out. Came across the BBC radio 1 Essential mix from last weekend done by BlackStrobe and this is cool! it's not ur average dullprogressivelookatmeiamasuperstardjandicanmixtworecordsfortwohoursmi x but a very refreshing and wicked sounding electrotechnohousemix..check the tracklisting, it'sdifferent with Front 242, Ministry, Killing Joke, Metro Area, Phuture, Anthony Rother and The Sisters of Mercy all in one mix. Martijn http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/essentialmix/ the_essential_mix_archive.shtml?20041128 Tracklisting BlackStrobe Essential Mix 28.11.2004: Rene Breibarth - 'Bob - Joss' (Treibstoff) Dextro - 'Can I Help' [The Mfa Remix] (Border Community) Unique 3 - 'S/T' (Warp) Test One - 'Test Four' (Warp) Metro Area - 'Miura' (Environ) Blackstrobe Fx 1 Château Flight - 'Les Antipodes' [Joakim Remix] (Versatile) Agent 86 - 'Spezial' (Freudinnen) Musk - 'Extra Stop' (Musk) Depeche Mode - 'World In My Eyes' (Mute) Sisters Of Mercy - 'Lucretia' (Warner) Killing Joke - 'Primitive' (EMI) Miss Kittin And The Hacker - 'Life On MTV' (Gigolo) Playgroup - 'Number One' [Black Strobe Remix] (Output) Joey Beltram - 'Mentasm' (RS) Blackstrobe Fx 2 Anthony Rother - 'Space' (Datapop) Wolfskull - 'Unknown' (Wolfskull 005) Rocco Branco - 'Kapital' (Platzirsch) Gigi Galaxy - 'Lips So Sweet' (White) Blackstrobe - 'Italian Fireflies' [Special Decks And Fx Version] (White) Anthony Rother - 'Back In Time' (Datapop) Nylon - 'The Mouse' (Rebel) Fixmer And Mc Carthy - 'Freefall' [The Hacker Remix] (Planete Rouge) Ministry - 'Mystery Of Love' (WEA) Ricardo Villalolobos - 'Easy Lee' [Soundhack Mix] (Playhouse) Purpose Maker - 'The Bells' (Axis) Garbage Queen - 'S/T' (White) Phuture - 'Cocaine' (Strictly Rhythm) Dirtcrew - 'Unknown' (Mood Music) Front 242 - 'Operating Track' (Wax Trax)
RE: (313) Green Dog question....
To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm Don't worry Alex, think of all stuff he'll be recycling. Putting us humunoids to shame. Rav. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 10:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Green Dog question My dog has gone green. What should I do? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Green Dog question....
you should keep your sexual behavior in shape next time.. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 3 december 2004 11:13 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) Green Dog question My dog has gone green. What should I do?
(313) Track ID, Holden something?
Hi, I love trance, and er... there's some hit making the rounds from a new(ish?) UK label and the track is by a Holden, or maybe it's remixed by a Holden, or something like that, but it's riding a fine border between techno and trance, much like early Carl Craig can sometimes do... What is it? Thanks!! Tosh
(313) Old Acid House Mixes
Morning 313'ers, Can anyone point me in the direction of some old acid house mixes on-line? Have a good w/e everyone (I'm off to Mills @ Lost on Saturday :o) Cheers, Gary. ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, and any attachments it may have, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Sasha
Hi Dave I don't have any information on Sasha's Ableton Controller, I can gladly say that he hasn't dj'd in Portland for almost 10 years now (YES!) and I certainly don't buy his records, so you'll have to get more info elsewhere, but I doubt that Sasha's controller, would be any better then Richie Hawtin's cutom doepfer controller. I doubt it too! Although I was reading some comments sasha made about this controller, and the things he was saying about how he wanted it to be were interesting. I don't think theres a really good ableton controller specifically for dj'ing on the market yet. do other people find this? I've looked at all the options, and to me, they're missing some fundamental stuff. Sasha said something along the lines of I want something that I can control the entire screen from, so I'm not having to hunch over a laptop while dj'ing etc.. blahblah well, me too. I want something with on each channel a slider, assignable knobs, some buttons, and preferably something you could use to control the effects per channel too. Also something with a crossfader as well. It seems simple! but no one makes one yet! maybe its a bit expensive to make. I really like the layout of his controller, at least when it comes to using Ableton. Now if Dopefer/Richie/Ableton would distribute it, as it's a one off. Yeah, it looks excellent - if only they made it commercially! not much use to us other wise! Thanks for the info Dave - much appreciated. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
I don't think theres a really good ableton controller specifically for dj'ing on the market yet. do other people find this? there is a *huge* gap in the market in this respect. i guess we'll know tomorrow what m-audio have done for sasha. i'm fairly certain it'll have two stereo outs and work via the firewire bus. (a la the new ozonic). still think we need to build our own rave generator tho alex :) robin...
Re: (313) Old Acid House Mixes
If you havnt already I would suggest starting with Placids site http://www.acidmixes.com Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning 313'ers, Can anyone point me in the direction of some old acid house mixes on-line? Have a good w/e everyone (I'm off to Mills @ Lost on Saturday :o) Cheers, Gary. ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, and any attachments it may have, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Sasha
Personally - I think it's all rubbish - as you can use any controller with plenty of nobs and sliders - you just have to stop wanting to change it into decks 1 and two because if that's all you are going to do, you may as well use decks. People do seem to want to replicate what on screen to a controller, but when you've had hours of practice this simply doesn't matter. My two cents Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:28, robin wrote: I don't think theres a really good ableton controller specifically for dj'ing on the market yet. do other people find this? there is a *huge* gap in the market in this respect. i guess we'll know tomorrow what m-audio have done for sasha. i'm fairly certain it'll have two stereo outs and work via the firewire bus. (a la the new ozonic). still think we need to build our own rave generator tho alex :) robin...
RE: (313) Old Acid House Mixes
Htt://www.acidmixes.com Got a few up there at the mo. p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 11:18 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Old Acid House Mixes Morning 313'ers, Can anyone point me in the direction of some old acid house mixes on-line? Have a good w/e everyone (I'm off to Mills @ Lost on Saturday :o) Cheers, Gary. ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, and any attachments it may have, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Sasha
there is a *huge* gap in the market in this respect. I keep thinking I'm missing something huge - like a feature within ableton or something, but I'm not - I'm relatively certain. It is strange that theres nothing really, especially as theres tons of dj equipment on the market, and its been a few years now - this isn't new technology. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Old Acid House Mixes
Aha, Placid's site. That should do the trick! Thanks for the tip. Gary. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Sasha
i see what you're saying martin and to a certain extent you're right. it'd be nice to get away from actually using the mouse etc though and just control from something that is mixer-like. it'd also be nice in terms of setup at gigs etc to have one thing that you plug into the laptop that does audio and control. a uc17/uc33/indigo dj for example in one unit you just throw in yer bag with the laptop when u gig. robin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:32, Martin Dust wrote: Personally - I think it's all rubbish - as you can use any controller with plenty of nobs and sliders - you just have to stop wanting to change it into decks 1 and two because if that's all you are going to do, you may as well use decks. People do seem to want to replicate what on screen to a controller, but when you've had hours of practice this simply doesn't matter.
Re: (313) Green Dog question....
stop taking m*shrooms in the morning At 10:12 am + 3/12/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dog has gone green. What should I do? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
Martin DPersonally - I think it's all rubbish - as you can use any controller with plenty of nobs and sliders - you just have to stop wanting to change it into decks 1 and two because if that's all you are going to do, you may as well use decks. Nah, thats rubbish Martin. I have a box (UC33). Its not bad - it could be better. The more stuff I can assign, the more time I have to do edits on the fly. It's not ideal though. Here's how I set it up. Each channel has EQ3, Auto Filter and Ping Pong delay on. I want to have total hands on control over the effects so I dont have to be fiddling around on the computer - its far more spontaneous and allows you to 'sound' better. I need effects on each channel, so you can use effects in the mix. (raw drums for example). Not sure about the decks one and two bit. I want to have loops running on a couple of channels, with effects, then 2 channels with songs on, yeah like decks a little. Don't see where the problem is there? You certainly cant use recoreds for what I want to do... I just want a totally hands on interface - just as a dj mixer is. But I want it with all the features you use ableton for instead of decks - I still don't beleieve anyone makes one like this... Fiddling with your pc is just not spontaneous enough I dont think. People do seem to want to replicate what on screen to a controller, but when you've had hours of practice this simply doesn't matter. I've just got a new computer. Its sh*t. I dont think I'll ever be able to control it quick enough to do what I want to do - its way too fiddly. Hands on is better, much much better. So, I dont agree. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
I like the freedom tho, and do have two controllers and when we have 4 machines going we can move around machines or play on the same laptop with the other controller. It would be nice but I fear the block build mentality of Cubase would sneak in and people would get really lazy and stop thinking, having said that - most people don't know what they want on their pizza let alone a controller. Alex, just get something with loads of nobs and sliders and colour code them up, I can do anything on mine that I could do on a DM600. Sound to me that all you are missing is punching tracks in and out - but this can be done with easy - Do you get someone to put your records on for you Alex? Most DJ's miss the point and just want what they've already had, the freedom is there, you just have to change... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:38, robin wrote: i see what you're saying martin and to a certain extent you're right. it'd be nice to get away from actually using the mouse etc though and just control from something that is mixer-like. it'd also be nice in terms of setup at gigs etc to have one thing that you plug into the laptop that does audio and control. a uc17/uc33/indigo dj for example in one unit you just throw in yer bag with the laptop when u gig. robin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:32, Martin Dust wrote: Personally - I think it's all rubbish - as you can use any controller with plenty of nobs and sliders - you just have to stop wanting to change it into decks 1 and two because if that's all you are going to do, you may as well use decks. People do seem to want to replicate what on screen to a controller, but when you've had hours of practice this simply doesn't matter.
Re: (313) Old Acid House Mixes
also still available: http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3 ronny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning 313'ers, Can anyone point me in the direction of some old acid house mixes on-line? Have a good w/e everyone (I'm off to Mills @ Lost on Saturday :o) Cheers, Gary. ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, and any attachments it may have, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
(313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question: What exactly does live mean? Can the word live be replaced by Playing their own music? I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any more or less live than somebody playing a live set from Abelton? It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) Sasha
and do have two controllers well, you see, for a start thats more than I have and offers more hands on control. most people don't know what they want on their pizza let alone a controller. I know EXACTLY. Been thinking about it for a long time. I even toyed with the idea of getting my dad to build me one, but I dont think I can afford it. Sound to me that all you are missing is punching tracks in and out - but this can be done with easy - Do you get someone to put your records on for you Alex? Punching tracks in and out, yeah I am missing that - I dont mind that one, but I'd do away with using the mouse for that too if I could. But the big one is the effects - and more assignable buttons per channel. I NEED MORE BUTTONS! Most DJ's miss the point and just want what they've already had, the freedom is there, you just have to change... Oh believe me. I been thinking lots about what I *could* do with this. might take a couple of years to get there what with having 2 jobs, a girlfriend and a close affinity to the odd pint or two after work. I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG - THAT'S THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
I just want a totally hands on interface - just as a dj mixer is. But I want it with all the features you use ableton for instead of decks - I still don't beleieve anyone makes one like this... Fiddling with your pc is just not spontaneous enough I dont think. No you don't..ever taken the wrong record off? If you had everything linked and controlled you'd only need to forget one thing for it to go tits - less is, indeed, more. Martin
Re: (313) Sasha
No you don't..ever taken the wrong record off? Yeah! I see what you mean, but, I still dont agree Martin: No you don't Alex: Yes I do Martin : No you don't Alex: Yes I do etc. I think it just boils down to personal preference - and I want some super rave box with large gearstick, steering wheel dvd fondue set etc. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Did you see Kraftwerk this year? Where they live? Do we care anymore, it's not a techno argument is it? It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more DJ set or Performers own material, they could have two spoons for me... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote: After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question: What exactly does live mean? Can the word live be replaced by Playing their own music? I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any more or less live than somebody playing a live set from Abelton? It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
And what about Tiesto? he claims playing a dj set with selfmade burned cd's = live and he announced it shameless as : LIVE IN CONCERT. wrhoa. regards aida (who lives in the netherlands) -- meanwhile...check: Rebelbass weblog @ 3voor12: http://www.3voor12.vpro.nl/rebelbass Rebelbass home: http://www.rebelbass.com Did you see Kraftwerk this year? Where they live? Do we care anymore, it's not a techno argument is it? It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more DJ set or Performers own material, they could have two spoons for me... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote: After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question: What exactly does live mean? Can the word live be replaced by Playing their own music? I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any more or less live than somebody playing a live set from Abelton? It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) Sasha
I've just called your Dad Alex, someone needs to give you a clip round the ear mate *lol* On 3 Dec 2004, at 12:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you don't..ever taken the wrong record off? Yeah! I see what you mean, but, I still dont agree Martin: No you don't Alex: Yes I do Martin : No you don't Alex: Yes I do etc. I think it just boils down to personal preference - and I want some super rave box with large gearstick, steering wheel dvd fondue set etc. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Martin. I bet kraftwerk would want a controller like mine and would think yours is rubbish. So there. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
Sound to me that all you are missing is punching tracks in and out - but this can be done with easy - Do you get someone to put your records on for you Alex? Punching tracks in and out, yeah I am missing that - I dont mind that one, but I'd do away with using the mouse for that too if I could. But the big one is the effects - and more assignable buttons per channel. I NEED MORE BUTTONS Get a couple of these then: http://www.faderfox.com/Faderfox-Homepage_english/faderfox- homepage_english.html Martin
(313) Heat
wow! I just had to borrow some asbestos gloves from Piccadilly to carry my new record home. ITS THAT HOT. what is it, you idiot? I hear you cry. Well, it's the new Jersey Devil Social Club record on ENVIRON. 2 covers of Magnifique's Magnifique. Ow. W = WINNER Don't sleep on this record (you might well bend it or something). Also, the new Balihu is great and Derek was right about the new Jeff Mills. It's EXCELLENT. I didnt have enought to buy these tho. The Environ won the battle. All good. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Heat
oh yeah. scissor sisters do a cover version of magnifique live as well apparently. thank me later for these top facts _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Heat
speaking of new, hot purchases...these are excellent: Meikbar - Liston / My Back (Psychic Phenomena ltd) DJ Genesis - It's U / Hush (Subgroundz Rec.) c., (repeating the chorus all day long: it's u, it's u, it's u...got me hypnotized, when i, when i, when i...look into...your eyes...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow! I just had to borrow some asbestos gloves from Piccadilly to carry my new record home. ITS THAT HOT. what is it, you idiot? I hear you cry. Well, it's the new Jersey Devil Social Club record on ENVIRON. 2 covers of Magnifique's Magnifique. Ow. W = WINNER Don't sleep on this record (you might well bend it or something). Also, the new Balihu is great and Derek was right about the new Jeff Mills. It's EXCELLENT. I didnt have enought to buy these tho. The Environ won the battle. All good. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. --- avast! Antivirus: Eingehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 0449-1, 02.12.2004 Getestet um: 03.12.2004 14:09:41 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: (313) Heat
Meikbar - Liston / My Back (Psychic Phenomena ltd hey, is this the rushhour heads? I quite liked the previous Meikbar. What does Meikbar mean btw? Milk Bar? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Heat
the guy´s called Meik his studio is like a bar 1+1... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 3 december 2004 14:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Heat Meikbar - Liston / My Back (Psychic Phenomena ltd hey, is this the rushhour heads? I quite liked the previous Meikbar. What does Meikbar mean btw? Milk Bar? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Martin Dust wrote: It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more DJ set or Performers own material, they could have two spoons for me... -- Sorry, never meant it was a matter of Abelton, just abused them as an example. As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? Tosh On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote: After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question: What exactly does live mean? Can the word live be replaced by Playing their own music? I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any more or less live than somebody playing a live set from Abelton? It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
(313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
sorry to go public with this ...but does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? I get one saying that nick parish no longer works at flavorpill. looks as if he didn't unsub that email addy before he left. d np:oh my god I have so much work/tests to do before monday I like Trance-Tosh Cooey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
-- Sorry, never meant it was a matter of Abelton, just abused them as an example. As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? Tosh Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin
Re: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
strangely i get it sometimes i post, but not all times he needs to be removed from the list. (admin?) robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:48, diana potts wrote: sorry to go public with this ...but does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? I get one saying that nick parish no longer works at flavorpill. looks as if he didn't unsub that email addy before he left. d np:oh my god I have so much work/tests to do before monday I like Trance-Tosh Cooey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
RE: (313) Heat
the guy´s called Meik his studio is like a bar 1+1... Why aren't your records by JochemRubbishBin then clever clogs? ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? djing. especially if they can respond to the dancers (ie. playing a prelaid out set in ableton is not far removed from playing a mix cd and pretending to dj) robin...
Re: (313) Heat
he's right. it's hot. :) Don't sleep on this record (you might well bend it or something). is that a warning to matt? i've seen that larkin record :) robin...
RE: (313) Heat
ill add it next time recorded at 154´s-tunneloflove -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 3 december 2004 14:52 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Heat the guy´s called Meik his studio is like a bar 1+1... Why aren't your records by JochemRubbishBin then clever clogs? ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I'm so glad this list hasn't had this conversation (or a close version of it) before. perhaps, to switch things up we could talk about Jeff Mills, Hawtin or May. sorry...grumpy this morning. --- robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? djing. especially if they can respond to the dancers (ie. playing a prelaid out set in ableton is not far removed from playing a mix cd and pretending to dj) robin... __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Heat
both 12inches and his remix for sweet abraham are top class! 5 tracks, all 100%. no fillers. respect! c. p.s.: is there anything from him in the pipeline coming soon...? Peteri, Jochem wrote: the guy´s called Meik his studio is like a bar 1+1... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 3 december 2004 14:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Heat Meikbar - Liston / My Back (Psychic Phenomena ltd hey, is this the rushhour heads? I quite liked the previous Meikbar. What does Meikbar mean btw? Milk Bar? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail. --- avast! Antivirus: Eingehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 0449-1, 02.12.2004 Getestet um: 03.12.2004 14:46:34 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
Im the same, get it sometimes but not every post Cheers BT --- robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: strangely i get it sometimes i post, but not all times he needs to be removed from the list. (admin?) robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:48, diana potts wrote: sorry to go public with this ...but does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? I get one saying that nick parish no longer works at flavorpill. looks as if he didn't unsub that email addy before he left. d np:oh my god I have so much work/tests to do before monday I like Trance-Tosh Cooey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:55, diana potts wrote: I'm so glad this list hasn't had this conversation (or a close version of it) before. y'know what, i think we've had a similar discussion before (look in the archives for 3rd wave djing :) ) robin...
Re: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
Maybe, we should spam back the other names in that auto reply, if a couple of hundred do it they make take some notice... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:59, David Beattie wrote: Im the same, get it sometimes but not every post Cheers BT --- robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: strangely i get it sometimes i post, but not all times he needs to be removed from the list. (admin?) robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:48, diana potts wrote: sorry to go public with this ...but does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? I get one saying that nick parish no longer works at flavorpill. looks as if he didn't unsub that email addy before he left. d np:oh my god I have so much work/tests to do before monday I like Trance-Tosh Cooey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
he needs to be removed from the list. (admin?) Why stop there? BURN HIM Then grind him down and make a Trax records out of his bones. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
FYI, granted that you can deliver an Ableton Live set that is previously arranged or contains one clip that is a complete mix CD, I have yet to see anyone do that. Every one I've seen has put in something new or had plenty to tweak with Ableton. If they aren't exploring those options then they don't deserve Ableton Live. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? djing. especially if they can respond to the dancers (ie. playing a prelaid out set in ableton is not far removed from playing a mix cd and pretending to dj) robin...
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
don't get me wrong fred, i wasn't saying that people who use Live to dj were doing this. only that it was possible. i personally think in a couple of years time most people will be using laptops to 'dj'and i don't think that is a bad thing. robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 14:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, granted that you can deliver an Ableton Live set that is previously arranged or contains one clip that is a complete mix CD, I have yet to see anyone do that. Every one I've seen has put in something new or had plenty to tweak with Ableton. If they aren't exploring those options then they don't deserve Ableton Live.
Re: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
Read it again Diana, OTHER NAMESand stop whining about your work load and get your head down *LOL* I have loads of time cos the other lazy bast4rd members of my band are still in bed... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 14:06, diana potts wrote: sure Martin... after I make a tea cozie out of sewn together match boxes, make cookies for every soldier and finish all my projects and exam preparation I'll get down to spam-ing nick's mailbox and then deleting all the autoresponses I get. .ayeenglish promoters and their free time ;) d --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, we should spam back the other names in that auto reply, if a couple of hundred do it they make take some notice... Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:59, David Beattie wrote: Im the same, get it sometimes but not every post Cheers BT --- robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: strangely i get it sometimes i post, but not all times he needs to be removed from the list. (admin?) robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 13:48, diana potts wrote: sorry to go public with this ...but does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? I get one saying that nick parish no longer works at flavorpill. looks as if he didn't unsub that email addy before he left. d np:oh my god I have so much work/tests to do before monday I like Trance-Tosh Cooey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
i personally think in a couple of years time most people will be using laptops to 'dj' hmm, do you think? I'm not that sure. There's still strong anti-laptop feeling about. danny says to me - when you gonna stop using that gameboy to dj with? I say - shut up and get your hair cut skip-rat, and get with the program Francis is still using two gramaphones ala Jimmy Saville as well. joke Francis. (christ I've given you some stick this week!) I'll buy you a pint to say sorry. I'll even give you some records. : ) but, yeah. long way to go I reckon. I'd like to point out I did actually play records on Sunday at Aficinado and really enjoyed it, but ableton is deffo the way forward. for sure. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I can't say if it's live or not. I also can't say much about the performance there. But if it was anything like the performance here in america, I call it boring. He would literally play that same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minute. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:43 AM To: Martin Dust Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Martin Dust wrote: It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more DJ set or Performers own material, they could have two spoons for me... -- Sorry, never meant it was a matter of Abelton, just abused them as an example. As for: It's more DJ set or Performers own material well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? Tosh On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote: After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a question: What exactly does live mean? Can the word live be replaced by Playing their own music? I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any more or less live than somebody playing a live set from Abelton? It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
once people see that it isn't cheating (what, no beatmatching?) and that a laptop can do stuff records can't then things will change. anyway all the people i've seen knock the laptop approach have been over 30. you start to fear change at that age, lol. all the kids coming through, i think, will be much more receptive to new approaches. funnily enough, i still much prefer playing on well set up decks and mixer (with a cycloops for added touches). i can see both sides of the 'argument'. robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 14:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i personally think in a couple of years time most people will be using laptops to 'dj' hmm, do you think? I'm not that sure. There's still strong anti-laptop feeling about. danny says to me - when you gonna stop using that gameboy to dj with? I say - shut up and get your hair cut skip-rat, and get with the program Francis is still using two gramaphones ala Jimmy Saville as well. joke Francis. (christ I've given you some stick this week!) I'll buy you a pint to say sorry. I'll even give you some records. : ) but, yeah. long way to go I reckon. I'd like to point out I did actually play records on Sunday at Aficinado and really enjoyed it, but ableton is deffo the way forward. for sure.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
once people see that it isn't cheating I dont think one person I know (except yourself Robin) can get their heads round that. *sniff sniff, sheds a tear* no one understands me, blah, blub, sniff sniff. teeehe. death to the luddites. order a trax back catologue repress, I got a big ol' bag o' bones for Larry Sherman to be knocking up some of those classics. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I don't think there is an argument to be had, it's like the Music Union years ago - same old boring sh1te really - samplers aren't live blah blah blah, except most of the barking is coming from the internal techno camp, people who care too much about the detail to enjoy themselves. It's well boring... Techno is as much about the future, if not more than any other music and if you think that clinging to the past is justified, then do it. But expect to get left behind if you do, simply as that. I think is scares DJ's because the power is in the hands of the people now (i.e. it doesn't cost a fortune to get started) and that is a good thing from where I'm standing. Martin
(313) remember JetGroove?
Well whaddya know? http://www.audio1.org/ _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) remember JetGroove?
hahaha, you'd think they'd at least change the design of the site. shady robin... On 3 Dec 2004, at 14:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well whaddya know? http://www.audio1.org/
(313) Keep On mag
has anyone mentioned that the latest issue of the world's best music mag, Keep On is out? (http://www.keeponmagazine.com/) before you flame me for providing redundant info, i've been away :) robin...
Re: (313) remember JetGroove?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 about following: Well whaddya know? http://www.audio1.org/ and again.. just hit trackfix to the search box.. and get some screenshots along the way :) sakke -- System error?:: Success props to mozilla.org
Re: (313) Keep On mag
has anyone mentioned that the latest issue of the world's best music mag, Keep On is out? Yep. LATE. get with the program ; ) nah, its ace, I bought one, really good. excellent interview with Morgan Geist. Tons of interesting stuff. Good techno isn't represented in there too much unfortunately - but everything else is. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: He would literally play that same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minute. Ha ha!! Isn't that *all* minimal music?! But this brings us to what Martin says: Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) Sasha
Alex, are you assigning things to laptop keys as well? I do notice myself though, sometimes there's never enough knobs or sliders... maybe just need to get a 2nd controller though, rather than waiting for someone to make some GIGANTO-HYPER-UNIT that has a zillion buttons and knobs. Personally, I wish I could just highlight a channel without using the mouse, so I could see which effects are on or off before I bring in a new clip on the channel. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Sasha Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:44:14 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Martin DPersonally - I think it's all rubbish - as you can use any controller with plenty of nobs and sliders - you just have to stop wanting to change it into decks 1 and two because if that's all you are going to do, you may as well use decks. Nah, thats rubbish Martin. I have a box (UC33). Its not bad - it could be better. The more stuff I can assign, the more time I have to do edits on the fly. It's not ideal though. Here's how I set it up. Each channel has EQ3, Auto Filter and Ping Pong delay on. I want to have total hands on control over the effects so I dont have to be fiddling around on the computer - its far more spontaneous and allows you to 'sound' better. I need effects on each channel, so you can use effects in the mix. (raw drums for example). Not sure about the decks one and two bit. I want to have loops running on a couple of channels, with effects, then 2 channels with songs on, yeah like decks a little. Don't see where the problem is there? You certainly cant use recoreds for what I want to do... I just want a totally hands on interface - just as a dj mixer is. But I want it with all the features you use ableton for instead of decks - I still don't beleieve anyone makes one like this... Fiddling with your pc is just not spontaneous enough I dont think. People do seem to want to replicate what on screen to a controller, but when you've had hours of practice this simply doesn't matter. I've just got a new computer. Its sh*t. I dont think I'll ever be able to control it quick enough to do what I want to do - its way too fiddly. Hands on is better, much much better. So, I dont agree. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Sasha
Alex, are you assigning things to laptop keys as well? I am indeed David. Personally, I wish I could just highlight a channel without using the mouse, so I could see which effects are on or off before I bring in a new clip on the channel. You can! (I think - if I understand you correctly) you can assign it to the keys. I have my channels on the keyboard on the qwerty line... e.g. press Q and the channel is highlighted and you can see what effects are on or off. ta alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to define and all the techno bores just love to jump down the promoters throat. Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all the kit they play on...why should we be any different? It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants where used. Martin Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh
(313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer... Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 15:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Sasha Alex, are you assigning things to laptop keys as well? I am indeed David. Personally, I wish I could just highlight a channel without using the mouse, so I could see which effects are on or off before I bring in a new clip on the channel. You can! (I think - if I understand you correctly) you can assign it to the keys. I have my channels on the keyboard on the qwerty line... e.g. press Q and the channel is highlighted and you can see what effects are on or off. ta alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
We have one of these B (it's a converted pub quiz machine), it doesn't like sweaty fingertips for a start and Ableton's screen detail is way to small for it to handle it properly. Still it would be fun turning you with two of them. Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 15:41, Brendan Nelson wrote: What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer...
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I was making a comment on the content of the music, which has nothing to do with Hawtin live or Hawtin the d.j.. I saw one of my favorites ,Kit Clayton do the same thing but worse. Ambient music that trailed off to one singular distored sine wave. The wave carried on for 8 minutes. 8 straight f*ckin minutes of a sine wave. There comes a time when self expression become self absorbtion. We are performing to an audience are we not? Take more drugs joke Martin
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I think you're putting too much thought into it all Tosh. Perhaps playing the instigator that you like to... Flyers/Promoters sell a name...that's it. Most people who go see Hawtin/Mill, etc. could care less if they are live, djing or knitting. They go to see the man, the myth, the legend. A very small portion of that audience sits there and analyzes the performance to death. maybe they need to relax and kick back another beer... and Tosh you've been around long enough to know this, so I still have a hard time figuring out why you feel the need to ask why. ??? What are you going to ask next- if set lists should be included on flyers so the audience knows when to expect then as well? Personally, I think it's more about the quality of the music the artist is producing rather than the focus of this roundabout discussion. d --- Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: He would literally play that same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minute. Ha ha!! Isn't that *all* minimal music?! But this brings us to what Martin says: Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com
RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Too many chin-scratchers makes for dull vibe. Not enough leaves no quality control. This is waay too much chin scratching. Deciding on whether to see an artist based on his kit? Come on. Your going to see the artist not his tools. Part of that experience is the chance that he might do something unexpected, whether it works or not is up to the connection between the artist, the audience and the artistic execution. Personally I'm a big fan of the take-a-chance-if-it-don't-pan-out-then-walk method. Been working great for me for years. Anything else would be uncivilized. And why's jamaul a troll. Did I miss something? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:44 AM To: Tosh Cooey Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to define and all the techno bores just love to jump down the promoters throat. Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all the kit they play on...why should we be any different? It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants where used. Martin Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh
Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
check out what these smart kids did over @ M.I.T. http://web.media.mit.edu/~jpatten/audiopad/ they use a projector and a few other bits and bobs to control software. bb® Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer... Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 15:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Sasha Alex, are you assigning things to laptop keys as well? I am indeed David. Personally, I wish I could just highlight a channel without using the mouse, so I could see which effects are on or off before I bring in a new clip on the channel. You can! (I think - if I understand you correctly) you can assign it to the keys. I have my channels on the keyboard on the qwerty line... e.g. press Q and the channel is highlighted and you can see what effects are on or off. ta alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. benny blanco® blancodisco / nyc http://blancodisco.com
RE: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
I had a play with one of the Fujitsu prototypes just before it came out, and when it detected your finger near the screen a mouse pointer would appear - I didn't get to try Ableton on it, but had assumed that that would help deal with its fairly small interface elements. A nice pair of white gloves would deal with the sweaty- fingertip issue too... :) Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 15:50 To: Brendan Nelson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha) We have one of these B (it's a converted pub quiz machine), it doesn't like sweaty fingertips for a start and Ableton's screen detail is way to small for it to handle it properly. Still it would be fun turning you with two of them. Martin On 3 Dec 2004, at 15:41, Brendan Nelson wrote: What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer...
Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php LEMUR is a handy and modular touchpanel based controller designed for audio and multimedia real-time applications. Our technology associates multitouch capabilities with visual display. On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:41:35 -, Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer... Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2004 15:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Sasha Alex, are you assigning things to laptop keys as well? I am indeed David. Personally, I wish I could just highlight a channel without using the mouse, so I could see which effects are on or off before I bring in a new clip on the channel. You can! (I think - if I understand you correctly) you can assign it to the keys. I have my channels on the keyboard on the qwerty line... e.g. press Q and the channel is highlighted and you can see what effects are on or off. ta alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
A nice pair of white gloves would deal with the sweaty- fingertip issue too... :) Any excuse to get them white gloves on... ;)
RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I missed something also,:) where was I called a troll. And what kind of troll. The small kind that dwell in caves or the kind that lures bate? What was that in reference to? Also here's my comment. I sent it privately I guess but not to the list. If it double post,then sorry. Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: I don't have an argument about the gear. I can care less. They can use whatever. I guess my statement was off topic since it was more about whether the teqnique is acceptable. People can use whatever they want to perform, in my book. I was making a comment on the content of the music, which has nothing to do with Hawtin live or Hawtin the d.j.. I saw one of my favorites ,Kit Clayton do the same thing but worse. Ambient music that trailed off to one singular distored sine wave. The wave carried on for 8 minutes. 8 straight f*ckin minutes of a sine wave. There comes a time when self expression become self absorbtion. We are performing to an audience are we not? I love minimal techno but I just can't listen to the same sample loop for 15 minutes with some fxs or vocals behind it regardless of the gear or the performer. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:52 AM To: 'Martin Dust'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Too many chin-scratchers makes for dull vibe. Not enough leaves no quality control. This is waay too much chin scratching. Deciding on whether to see an artist based on his kit? Come on. Your going to see the artist not his tools. Part of that experience is the chance that he might do something unexpected, whether it works or not is up to the connection between the artist, the audience and the artistic execution. Personally I'm a big fan of the take-a-chance-if-it-don't-pan-out-then-walk method. Been working great for me for years. Anything else would be uncivilized. And why's jamaul a troll. Did I miss something? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:44 AM To: Tosh Cooey Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to define and all the techno bores just love to jump down the promoters throat. Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all the kit they play on...why should we be any different? It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants where used. Martin Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh
Re: (313) remember JetGroove?
Here's their statement about copyright ___ We worked out a special strategy for ourselves that lets us satisfy our customers. Called 500-a-Day, it means adding no less then 500 tracks of the best alternative music to our database daily. Audio1 web site is owned and managed by the Russia-based company Proyect in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation. All the music downloads you purchase from Audio1 are legal, so long as you comply with our Terms of Use. We only sell music that has been legally licensed for sale to the general public for personal use. The Audio1 Services are licensed in accordance with the Licensing Agreement and the License # LS-3M-04-164, issued by the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. All respective copyrights owners, including songwriters, authors, composers, artists, music publishers and recording companies are fully compensated through the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society www.roms.ru, which in accordance with the Law of the Russian Federation On Copyright and Related Rights is entitled to issue licenses on behalf of different copyright owners and pay them license fees. _ Wasn't there an article about how Russian copyright laws were like swiss cheese? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To 12/03/2004 08:55 313@hyperreal.org AM cc Subject (313) remember JetGroove? Well whaddya know? http://www.audio1.org/ _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
On 3 Dec 2004, at 15:56, Edward George wrote: http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php LEMUR is a handy and modular touchpanel based controller designed for audio and multimedia real-time applications. Our technology associates multitouch capabilities with visual display. This is no good, it doesn't do knobs? *LOL* martin
Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
On Fri Dec 3 15:52 , 'benny blanco®' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: check out what these smart kids did over @ M.I.T. http://web.media.mit.edu/~jpatten/audiopad/ they use a projector and a few other bits and bobs to control software. I had a play with this over the Summer at Museum Ars Electronica in Linz. Having seen the article when it originally came out, I was totally geeked when I saw they had it there. I waited for about 15 minutes for some idiots to finish making crap on it only to find that I could only get crap out of it myself. Basically, as an arrangement tool, I thought it was a fairly unintuitive way to work, and I really couldn't see any advantage in it other than the presentation. That said, if I had control over what went into it in the first place, it could be a reasonably fun way to shake things up creatively. Tristan
Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
Ok, well at a recent party I did with the Outlet guys we had Ian O'Brien and Wildplanet on the bill. Wildplanet virtually bought a whole stdio with him rigged up through a 24 channel mixing desk. From my limited understanding of these things it appeared he was loading full tracks with all thier individual parts in from a laptop and then running them through all manner of synths and effects modules. For me that was a live show. Ian OB hooked a laptop in and played unreleased stuff from Ableton along with regular 2 deck mixing. For me that was just a good DJ set. Either way they both sounded dope though, that was the important thing. - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to define and all the techno bores just love to jump down the promoters throat. Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all the kit they play on...why should we be any different? It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants where used. Martin Martin Dust wrote: Who cares Tosh to be honest... Martin How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer? For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with? Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is right or wrong should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening. Tosh
(313) Little Detroit News Team
Martin. You stole my story. http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=429 Now you owe me £50. I'm like Reuters, you're like the Sheffield Afternoon Chronicle. Know what I mean? ; ) ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaa _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
FW: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
For example if you see Richie Hawtin maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see Richie Hawtin LIVE then what can you expect? right here. Not to highlight the fact though. Just thought I'd missed something. Maybe he isn't calling you one. I'm pretty sure I missed something. Speaking of metro area. Haven't heard the new jers devils, but it looks like picadilly's found abox of moves original 12's. If you haven't got one. Here's your chance. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
Re: (313) remember JetGroove?
I think it's like Allofmp3 ( http://www.allofmp3.com ) Interview MediaServices CIO Vadim Mamotin on Russia's AllofMP3.com : http://www.technewsworld.com/story/34512.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's their statement about copyright ___ We worked out a special strategy for ourselves that lets us satisfy our customers. Called 500-a-Day, it means adding no less then 500 tracks of the best alternative music to our database daily. Audio1 web site is owned and managed by the Russia-based company Proyect in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation. All the music downloads you purchase from Audio1 are legal, so long as you comply with our Terms of Use. We only sell music that has been legally licensed for sale to the general public for personal use. The Audio1 Services are licensed in accordance with the Licensing Agreement and the License # LS-3M-04-164, issued by the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. All respective copyrights owners, including songwriters, authors, composers, artists, music publishers and recording companies are fully compensated through the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society www.roms.ru, which in accordance with the Law of the Russian Federation On Copyright and Related Rights is entitled to issue licenses on behalf of different copyright owners and pay them license fees. _ Wasn't there an article about how Russian copyright laws were like swiss cheese? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To 12/03/2004 08:55 313@hyperreal.org AM cc Subject (313) remember JetGroove? Well whaddya know? http://www.audio1.org/ _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Nick Parish's autoresponse attn: Matt
does everyone get an automessage from flavorpill every time they post? Yes.
(313) mix WNUR chicago - BMG laptop DJ set unearthed!
Clinically Inclined Fridays 9:30pm - 12:00am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago http://SonicSunset.com for audio archives Due an antenna repair we weren't on the air last friday, but reached into our archives and digitized a show we've had a lot of requests to publish online: A Sept. 2003 in-studio guest mix from BMG (Ectomorph / Interdimensional Transmissions), who drops a genre-spanning and very fresh Ableton Live DJ set... mixing roots and influences along side modern elektronik sounds. This is most definitely one for the heads. part 1 BMG laptop DJ mix (Ableton Live) part 2 Matt interviews Brendan (never shy in the words dept.) as they banter on about past influences, from Detroit to Ann Arbor to NYC to Berlin sounds and beyond, the power of radio for the underground, and future thoughts on global electronic dance music. Lasts about a half hour as Dave Siska lays the backbeats... enjoy and don't take it too seriously.. we didn't ;) part 1 BMG tracklist: originally broadcast live 12 Sept. 2003 B-52's Mesopotamia Trevor Jackson Pink Lunch Savas Pascadilas No Doubt Bohannon Lets Start the Dance edit Marvin Gaye A Funky Space Reincarnation Gherkin Jerks Din Sync Larry Heard K Alexi My Medusa Mayday MLK Mix Rinder Lewis Gluttony Moxie edit Ectomorph XXX KDJ 30 (prince intervied by mojo) Rhythm Sound Mango Drive cover Prince Controversy bmg live wish we all were nude rmx Prince Irrestible Bitch DBX Baby Judy Cultural Vibe Mfumbe Adonis No Way Back Velodrome Capataz Dr Attaman Bonus Beats Magic Mix Rinder Lewis Anger Mu Let's get Sick Mike Dunn Personal Problem Le Tigre Decepticon DFA RMX bmg edit Dinosaur L #5 (go bang) original lp mix Loose Joints Is it all over my face bmg edit Soft Pink Truth Soft Pink MIssy Flexitone Moist Matt Dear Reae Jodeci Freek'n You MK Dub IT 3 Outkast Way You Move IT 1 JJ Fad Supersonic Cybotron Cosmic Cars Detroit Grand Pu Bahs Platicine Gene Ectomorph Version Vanity 6 Make Up Wee Papa Girls We Know It K. Saunderson Mix Aphex Window Licker acid demo Evian Techno City Spacelings Bassheads No Dust Paris Gillespie aka Mental Machine Love Camera unreleased I-f Secret Desire --- CHICAGO hometown hype dept: Matt DJs this Tuesday Dec. 7th - INFLUENCE night at Sonotheque w/ Alan Oldham, Mercedes Ben and Charles Adler. Influence... gathers some of the city's most discriminating DJs and musicians for a night of unmixed sets that spans genres, providing the artists with an opportunity to drop some personal favorites that might not move the average dance floor. - Patrick Sisson, Flavorpill Chicago 9PM - 2AM, No cover, $2 PBR, 21+, 1444 W. Chicago Ave Flyer http://sonicsunset.com/influence.gif Audio archives for download http://SonicSunset.com --- Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air in Chicago every Friday night. Except when our antenna is busted.
(313) Re: mix WNUR chicago - BMG laptop DJ set unearthed!
OWW Thanks for this Matt! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Re: 313 Digest 3 Dec 2004 14:55:24 -0000 Issue 2375
On Dec 3, 2004, at 6:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:51:46 + To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Heat Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the guy's called Meik his studio is like a bar 1+1... Why aren't your records by JochemRubbishBin then clever clogs? ; ) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA At the 11th hour, Alex makes a brave effort for Post of the Year. I nearly peed myself. Must ... not ... read ... Alex's ... posts ... so ... early ... in ... AM ... Cheers for that Alex :) - Greg
(313) tablet Re: (313) Ableton control (was RE: (313) Sasha)
Brendan Nelson wrote: What I reckon would sort me out is one of those tablet PCs with the touch screens - particularly the ones that are made with heavy rubber padding around them to make them robust and resilient. That way you could just lay the screen part of the laptop flat out in front of you, and control it by touching the screen. In Ableton that would work really well, I reckon; just put your finger on one of the faders, move it up down, then grab the crossfader and wiggle it about. Because it doesn't use right mouse buttons I don't think there'd be any real problems with using it through a touch-screen interface. From the point of view of the audience, it wouldn't be a hell of a lot different from watching someone work a turntable; one of the big problems with laptop performances is that the screen is positioned like a barrier between the artist and the crowd. Lay the screen out flat in front of the artist and it might as well be a 1200 for all the audience care. The drawback is that you couldn't do more than one thing at once - if that got sorted, though, and you had the equivalent of four mouse pointers running at once, that'd be a pretty good way of controlling Ableton. Chuck away the mouse and all your MIDI peripherals and just use the screen itself as the virtual mixer... Brendan i brought xingu hill and szkieve to halifax recently and both of them used unique setups: xingu hill used a tablet PC as you describe above: sat right in front of the audience so that you could see him with the tablet in his lap moving the sound files around and tweaking; szkieve used 3 PDAs and that's it! andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
Re: (313) remember JetGroove?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's their statement about copyright ___ We worked out a special strategy for ourselves that lets us satisfy our customers. Called 500-a-Day, it means adding no less then 500 tracks of the best alternative music to our database daily. Audio1 web site is owned and managed by the Russia-based company Proyect in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation. All the music downloads you purchase from Audio1 are legal, so long as you comply with our Terms of Use. We only sell music that has been legally licensed for sale to the general public for personal use. The Audio1 Services are licensed in accordance with the Licensing Agreement and the License # LS-3M-04-164, issued by the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. All respective copyrights owners, including songwriters, authors, composers, artists, music publishers and recording companies are fully compensated through the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society www.roms.ru, which in accordance with the Law of the Russian Federation On Copyright and Related Rights is entitled to issue licenses on behalf of different copyright owners and pay them license fees. what a bunch of bunk. the first thing i did when i heard of this new version of jetgroove was start label searching on labels i had released on and--guess what? they're listed and the labels didn't agree to this. andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
(313) claude young contact ?
Anyone have a recent email contact for Claude ? Thanks Eamonn / D1 www.d1recordings.com www.rad1o.tv --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004
