RE: (313) Dan Bell
Check a recent Dan Bell set here: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/djsets/ Recorded @ the Awakenings night in Amsterdam last Sunday (23-03-2008)..also Saunderson, Denham and few others to be found here. Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 27 maart 2008 17:12 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) C2 / Dan Bell On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed a lack of variety in his set, like the overall feel never changed. There were no moments where the sound gets a little darker, just everything plodding along in the same vein. Sometimes I think DJs think too much on the overall style without thinking about making people dance. Technically he was faultless, but just uninspiring. usually when i have seen him, he plays a good bit of house. this past time, there was none of that. it might have been more interesting for those not into house, but i love house music ;) tom Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
That's good news at least... Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. -- *matt chester 11th hour recordings* www.myspace.com/mattchester1 www.myspace.com/11thhourrecordings www.virb.com/mattchester www.11-hour.com
RE: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdElec tronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSo ul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia
Plex PLEX @ CORSICA STUDIOS - 4th April 2008 Techno. Electro. Acid. Bass DJ Pete [Scion Verisons, Hardwax, Berghain] Neil Landstrumm [Scandanavia, Planet Mu] - LIVE 65D Mavericks [Surface, Blueprint] - LIVE Kronos Device [Battle Trax] - LIVE Jerome Hill [Don't] Bass Clef [Blank Tapes] - LIVE Datassette [Ai Records, All Your Bass] - LIVE Rebel Intelligence [RI, BLOC] Koenig [RI] DJ Nick [RI] Strepsil Bracket [PLEX, Rag Bone] Luke Handsfree [PLEX] James Tec [PLEX, BLOC] I'm gonna pop my Sud cherry though and go to see T and Rick Wade. Heard great things about K Soul too. The above line up is very tempting, esp Pete and Jerome (who rivals Mills for deck skills), but I've got to support Mr Watkins of course ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 21:06 To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdElectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia I may have overlooked something, what's the competition? fh # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Book This Guy For Demf
is he high by any chance? he reminds me of a school yard bully, by his actions and the way he speaks. a little bit illiterate methinks. HOW is he where he is? actually, where is he? B On 28 Mar 2008, at 04:07, Michael Kuszynski wrote: No commercial 'mofoing' music. take you to a place of uhm euphoria. ima be doing things you can't even imagine. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear. Sounds like he's been banging the garys in DC10 again... -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 20:37 To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Book This Guy For Demf He seems to know what he's talking about ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfJO3VX6cZg What a ball bag! m -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Book This Guy For Demf
who cares - Original Message - From: ben thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: Re: (313) Book This Guy For Demf is he high by any chance? he reminds me of a school yard bully, by his actions and the way he speaks. a little bit illiterate methinks. HOW is he where he is? actually, where is he? B On 28 Mar 2008, at 04:07, Michael Kuszynski wrote: No commercial 'mofoing' music. take you to a place of uhm euphoria. ima be doing things you can't even imagine. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear. Sounds like he's been banging the garys in DC10 again... -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 20:37 To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Book This Guy For Demf He seems to know what he's talking about ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfJO3VX6cZg What a ball bag! m -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex-industrial areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is less valid these days. btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison really holds. robin...
(313) new mix
I recorded a new mix yesterday of more dancefloor friendly records that I've bough recently, and some classics thrown in between. Starts out more techno and than at the end moves into more housy stuff. Tracklist includes: Carl Craig, Equalized, Surgeon, Sleeparchive, Moritz von Oswald, Theo Parrish, KDJ, Sleeparchive, Kassem Moses, Soundhack, Andy Stott, Emptyset... http://www.octex.si/audio/octex-dancesuckersdance.mp3 Jernej www.octex.si
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
Five years? Do the math. There is, at the moment, only a 25% detroit musician presence on the posted list of artists playing With Dieselboy I think it's now dropped slightly below 25%. I'd like to know how you think James Zabiela (a DJ schooled by non other than Sasha of Sasha Digweed fame) and Benny Benassi (who's latest album Rock Rave is out on Ultra records) don't betray the roots of Detroit. Are you ok with this sort of thing? So next year if they have Pete Tong, Paul Van Dyk, and Paul Oakenfold you'd be alright with that - as long as they keep a Detroit stage. Yeah, I suppose if there's a little corner in Detroit where Detroit artists can play :-/ MEK Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 07:02:29 AM: I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo. com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. I think what Gil says has some pertinence - Miami is the only American electronic music festival of any note and that's got unfortunate associations. At least having something in Detroit is a worthwhile start. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 14:20 To: Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) Five years? Do the math. There is, at the moment, only a 25% detroit musician presence on the posted list of artists playing With Dieselboy I think it's now dropped slightly below 25%. I'd like to know how you think James Zabiela (a DJ schooled by non other than Sasha of Sasha Digweed fame) and Benny Benassi (who's latest album Rock Rave is out on Ultra records) don't betray the roots of Detroit. Are you ok with this sort of thing? So next year if they have Pete Tong, Paul Van Dyk, and Paul Oakenfold you'd be alright with that - as long as they keep a Detroit stage. Yeah, I suppose if there's a little corner in Detroit where Detroit artists can play :-/ MEK Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 07:02:29 AM: I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo. com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
Well with that announcement, it shows that perhaps they haven't completely gone to the darkside. So I'll wait and see if the yet to be announced additions make up for some of the wackness presented here and on the rest of the announced line-up. Now I know there's a large contingent that see most of this discussion asmindless bickering, and sometimes it is, but the bickering more often than not has good intentions. At this stage in the game we all expect more, so pardon me for having standards. jw On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
(313) venting
so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab
RE: (313) venting
I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab
Re: (313) venting
Im sure there must be, I picked up some of this lot yesterday (the ones in stock, some of them were still to come in and I will get next week). DeepChord Mike Huckaby - The Detroit Remixes - Cache - 12 Vinyl Francesco Tristano - The Melody ( Carl Craig Balil Remixes) - Infine' - Bitstream - The Severed EP - Touchin Bass - 12 Vinyl Jay Denham - The Truth - Disko B - 2x12 Vinyl - Sebbo - Watamu Beach (Moritz Von Oswald Rework) - Desolat- 12 Vinyl Andy Stott - Bad Landing EP - Modern Love - 12 Vinyl Robert Hood - Fabric 39 - Fabric - CD Putsch '79 - Gibson - White Label - 12 Vinyl Tommy Walker 3 - Sure As - Dissident - 12 Vinyl Helium Robots - Long Lost - Dissident - 12 Vinyl Rod Lee - Understand / Sweet Dreams - Dress 2 $weat - 12 Vinyl Mark Broom - Mandate (Kruton Remix) - Dissident - 12 Vinyl Delta Funktionen - Electromagnetic Radiation Part 1 - Ann Aimee - 12 Vinyl Recloose - Maui's Lament - Rush Hour - 12 Vinyl Magick Edit Allstars - Hanging On A Solina - Magick Edits - 12 Vinyl DJ Slugo / DJ Deeon - Ghetto Classics Vol. 2 - Dance Mania - 12 Vinyl Andrés - Moments In Life - Mahogani Music - 12 Vinyl Red D Presents - Space / Kitchen People (ft Scott Ferguson Remix By Tyree) - Morse Records - 12 Vinyl Sean Deason - Elements Vol.One - Matrix - 12 Vinyl - Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab
Re: (313) venting
On 28 Mar 2008, at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? Thank god someone wants to talk about music. That new Mathematics is very nice (Contra Communem Opinionem - Lazy feet and the other track on that side). The new STL on Perlon is more of STL's vibe but is worth picking up. Seth Troxler and Patrick Russel - Doctor of Romance. Very low-fi and kinda boomy in a Ron Hardy way. Worth checking. Someone else's go. robin...
Re: (313) venting
I'm on for the Pure Entertainment Value. :) Is there any way to resend all of the emails from the 3 months leading to the fest of the past few years so everyone can see the silliness of it all? Rehash, rehash, rehash. ;) Peace, Alex P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:55:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. everybody else is doing it is a good reason to become wack? i dont see what the problem with scaling back in order to not turn this festival into a joke is. tom
RE: (313) venting
Boo - you should let conversations evolve naturally - this inevitably leads to tangential off topicness from time to time - what's the problem with that? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 14:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) venting
Amen on that Seth Troxler and Patrick Russel 12. Patrick really brings Seth down to earth and away from all of the m-nusy preset sounding stuff. Great record.
RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
You're not taking into account the commercial viability of this. In Europe we're lucky because a lot of festivals have considerable funding from various councils and organisations in order to get them to go ahead. The only festival I can think of that that doesn't really run according to commercial foibles is Montreux, and that's been backed from the start by rich philanthropy. Although I've not been, I don't think that is the case in Detroit. It has to be commercially viable in order to succeed in the future. Now, it may be that in say, 5 or 6 years time, the festival may be successful enough nationwide for them to realise their dreams of putting on at least in part the festival that everyone on 313 wants it to be. You may have to be patient for it to happen I'm afraid. They either put on a festival that no-one turns up to and they lose all their money on, or they pocket enough money to be able to do it next year. The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Detroit Techno all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 15:05 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. everybody else is doing it is a good reason to become wack? i dont see what the problem with scaling back in order to not turn this festival into a joke is. tom For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
Re: (313) venting
On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any new music out that is worth checking out? I just bought a newish Echospace record that is effing sweet (well, late at night hopped up on Nyquil at least) This one: http://www.discogs.com/release/1206292 -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) venting
is there any new music out that is worth checking out? Just off the top of my head Upcoming albums from Anja Schneider, Marek Bois and Ellen Allien are pretty dope... and while it's not really Techno I'm in love with Brinkmann's new album too. On a more 313ish tip the latest EP from The Model on Undel_ne is bad ass.
(313) venting - you want to talk about music?
AndresMoments in Life / El Rimto12 -Mahogoni Mick Collins with KDJ (Kenny Dixon, Jr.)The OC EP 12 (ditto) Recloose Maui's Lament - Rushhour Syclops - Where's Jason's K - DFA MMM/SOUNDHACK - 10th Anniversary EP UR - Reissues (Dark Energy and Galaxy to Galaxy) That's all that I can think of off the top of the head. jw On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
Re: (313) new mix
What is the bitrate? On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Jernej Marusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recorded a new mix yesterday of more dancefloor friendly records that I've bough recently, and some classics thrown in between. Starts out more techno and than at the end moves into more housy stuff. Tracklist includes: Carl Craig, Equalized, Surgeon, Sleeparchive, Moritz von Oswald, Theo Parrish, KDJ, Sleeparchive, Kassem Moses, Soundhack, Andy Stott, Emptyset... http://www.octex.si/audio/octex-dancesuckersdance.mp3 Jernej www.octex.si
RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Richie Hawtin all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. fixed MEK
Re: (313) venting - you want to talk about music?
Syclops - Where's Jason's K - DFA Yeah, I picked this up too. Like the best bit of that Kathy Diamond track Fulton did recently expanded over a whole side. Wicked. When he played here last year I had to go and ask him what that track was. I don't do that often with djs. MMM/SOUNDHACK - 10th Anniversary EP The Soundhack side works for me. robin...
RE: (313) venting
I actually bought my first new records of the year last night, as it goes. Not all brand spanking new though: ANDRÉS - Moments in Life (MAHOGANI MUSIC) FRANCESCO TRISTANO - The Melody (Carl Craig/Balil Remixes) (INFINÉ) PATRICE SCOTT - Motions (SISTRUM RECORDINGS) 12 RECLOOSE - Maui's Lament (RUSH HOUR) 12 MOVE D feat FRAGMENT - Even Tuell/Sascha Drive (WORKSHOP) 12 SHOCKING PINKS - Emily (Echospace Deepchord Remixes) (DFA) 2x12 JUJU JORDASH - Time Slip (REAL SOON) 12 UNKNOWN ARTIST - Equalized 001 (EQUALIZED) 12 £10.99 1 £10.99 Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're not taking into account the commercial viability of this. In Europe we're lucky because a lot of festivals have considerable funding from various councils and organisations in order to get them to go ahead. The only festival I can think of that that doesn't really run ' according to commercial foibles is Montreux, and that's been backed from the start by rich philanthropy. see, i think this is the problem. everyone got dollar signs in their eyes due to the unexpectedly large crowds that had wildly incorrect estimates in the early years. then when they started charging and keeping the entrances gated, it became obvious that these numbers were not right. instead of scaling back to something that could be done to serve all groups of people who had been actually attending the festival (let's break it down into say the international techno crowd, ravers, and locals who might not have known much if anything about the music but came through to have a good time) and who would be likely to continue to support it, they decided to go the megarave route. now they are pushing out the other groups of people (international presence definitely seems way way way down in the past couple of years likely due to the type of lineups, the locals mostly got out when the festival got crazily expensive) at the expense of the groups LEAST likely to continue to support the festival on a regular basis: the transient fickle raver crowd. Although I've not been, I don't think that is the case in Detroit. It has to be commercially viable in order to succeed in the future. Now, it may be that in say, 5 or 6 years time, the ' festival may be successful enough nationwide for them to realise their dreams of putting on at least in part the festival that everyone on 313 wants it to be. You may have to be patient for it to happen I'm afraid. They either put on a festival that no-one turns up to and they lose all their money on, or they pocket enough money to be able to do it next year. why be patient for something that already happened to happen again? if you think this is the future of where this festival is going, i think you are sorely mistaken. the goodness of the festival already happened, and a large part of what made it so interesting has been banished. and then suddenly in 5 or 6 years when DEMF is trying to straight up compete with WMC (which is stupid anyway, why would someone go to detroit when they could go to florida instead?) why would they switch back? it doesnt make sense. this is not the route to take in order for the festival to be what it should be and has been. The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Detroit Techno all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. right. tom
RE: (313) venting/Something Simple, Miami
That reminds me ... http://www.isophlux.net/events.html If you just so happen to be in Miami this weekend (or even if you can get there) this 313 hued line-up looks more than interesting. Ken -Original Message- From: Alex Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) venting I'm on for the Pure Entertainment Value. :) Is there any way to resend all of the emails from the 3 months leading to the fest of the past few years so everyone can see the silliness of it all? Rehash, rehash, rehash. ;) Peace, Alex P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:55:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: (313) venting (WMC vs Movement)
Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 10:00:15 AM: P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! Interesting I was looking at the events/panels/artists playing at WMC this year and there's actually a good amount of quality stuff mostly House (In addition a good friend of mine lives down in Miami and knows a good portion of the people listed here) The World of Remixing Miramar North- ready room Balboa What should you charge for a remix? What is reasonable to pay for a remix? How do you decide whether or not to accept a remix offer? Learn do?s and don?ts from the experts on this interesting subject! Moderator: Farley 'Jackmaster' Funk- 101 Distribution Panelists: Maurice Joshua- Music World /Nu Soul Romulo Del Castillo- Schematic Music Co. Man Parrish- Parrish Digital BabyBam- Jungle Brothers Richard Devine- Warp/Schematic Ectomorph- Interdimentional Transmissions John Morales- MM Mix Productions The Recording Academy® WMC Present the Producers Panel Regency Ballroom- ready room Ocean Bar/Bistro The Florida Chapter of The Recording Academy, in conjunction with Winter Music Conference, will present The Producer?s Forum, a panel discussion featuring major electronic/dance producers who will discuss creative and business trends in electronic/dance music. Moderator: Kurosh Nasseri- Law Offices of Kurosh Nasseri Panelists: Jason Bentley- artist/producer/music supervisor (The Matrix trilogy) Carl Craig- Planet E Communications, Inc. Paul Van Dyk- Vandit Records CEO, VONYC.com Kaskade- Quiet City, Ultra Records Jimmy Douglass- 2007/2008 Best Dance Recording GRAMMY winner, producer/remixer 7th Annual WMC 08 - Re-Union presented by Power Of Love Productions Ouzos- 1766 Bay Road Talent- Roy Davis JR, Ron Carroll, DJ Romain, Mike AgentX, Ron D*8*Lim, Enrico Mantini, Alex Almeida, Alex Dimitri south Soul , Live- Dino V, Miyon, Diamondancer, Marty GotSoul Therapy Karu and Y- 71 N.W. 14th Street, Miami Talent- jojoflores, Danny Krivit, Jellybean Benitez, DJ Spen, Quentin Harris, Nick Holder, Rich Medina, DJ Pope, Halo, Demarkus Lewis, Ian Friday, Abicah Soul, Lars Behrenroth, Martin East and Luis Baro. Electronic Music -History Made Fresh! Valencia Suite ready room- Balboa It still sounds fresh!! Know your music history. Learn the difference between a good song and a classic song. Discover how these legends created legacies and how you can too! Moderator: Ectomorph-Interdimentional Transmissions Panelists: Hank Shocklee- Shocklee Entertainment Frankie Bones- East Music Group Inc. Carl Craig- Planet E Communications Inc. Cornelius 'Atlantis' Harris- Underground Resistance Man Parrish- Parrish Digital Junior Sanchez- X-Mix Productions Jesse Saunders- BrokenRecords.us Juan Atkins- Metroplex/Tresor Om Records presents OM: MIAMI 2008 Y Ultralounge- 71 NW 14th Street, Miami 33136 Talent- Mark Farina, DJ Sneak, Tiefschwarz, Metro Area, Marques Wyatt, DJ Heather, Cobblestone Jazz (LIVE) Rich Medina, Vikter Duplaix, Chuck Love featuring Four Feet, Hipp-e, Andy Caldwell, Mike Monday, Colette, Samantha, James J Boogie, Fred Everything, Johnny Fiasco, Nickodemus (Turntables on the Hudson), Home Garden, Daz-I-Kue (Bugz in the Attic), Black Spade (LIVE), Troydon, The One (LIVE), DJ Fluid, Sake One, Still Rob G, Tavin Reiter + Special surprise guests! South Beach Sessions-Music, Politics Social Awareness The Catalina Hotel- 1720 Collins Ave. (Dorset Rooftop) Pioneers of International Dance and Hip Hop music culture, media, and press rally around the world?s most pressing issues and corresponding campaigns. Preferred admission for badgeholders. Space is limited so please arrive at least ten minutes before start time to guarantee admission. Moderator: Lauren Segal- Next Aid Panelists: Christopher Willits- Ghostly International Chris Deckker- Earthdance International Wessel Van Eeden- Dance4Life Brittany Somerset- Praxis Public Relations Parag Bhandari ? UG Strategies A.J. Mora- SuDance Dan Giove- DubSpot 'Dub Echoes' Screening presented by WMC Metatronix Regency Conference Room 'Dub Echoes' is a documentary that shows how the Jamaican Dub movement influenced the birth of much of what we hear today- from electronic to punk to hip-hop music. Shot in Jamaica, England, the US Brazil ?Dub Echoes? features more than 40 interviews with key figures from both the reggae and the electronic music world discussing the history and the importance of the Dub movement. Just follow the bass lines! Screenings will be at 12:30PM, 3:00PM, and 5:00PM.
Re: (313) new mix
It's 192kbps VBR. Thor Teague wrote: What is the bitrate? On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Jernej Marusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recorded a new mix yesterday of more dancefloor friendly records that I've bough recently, and some classics thrown in between. Starts out more techno and than at the end moves into more housy stuff. Tracklist includes: Carl Craig, Equalized, Surgeon, Sleeparchive, Moritz von Oswald, Theo Parrish, KDJ, Sleeparchive, Kassem Moses, Soundhack, Andy Stott, Emptyset... http://www.octex.si/audio/octex-dancesuckersdance.mp3 Jernej www.octex.si
Re: (313) Book This Guy For Demf
WAIT a SECOND! You can't DIVIDE BY ZERO! Where's Ashton? You can come out from behind the curtain. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:06 AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who cares
RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
AS1? there should be a battle off for use of name Plastic man vs Plastikman AS1 vs As One any others? tangents tangents all around MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 10:28:59 AM: That reminds me ... http://www.isophlux.net/events.html If you just so happen to be in Miami this weekend (or even if you can get there) this 313 hued line-up looks more than interesting. Ken -Original Message- From: Alex Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) venting I'm on for the Pure Entertainment Value. :) Is there any way to resend all of the emails from the 3 months leading to the fest of the past few years so everyone can see the silliness of it all? Rehash, rehash, rehash. ;) Peace, Alex P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:55:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: (313) venting / The Model - Foundation EP - Underline [und015]
Just noticed this is finally being released todayI can't recommend it enough. Interested to see if others like it as much as I do. btw...am I the only one that likes the original of Alter Ego's Gary more than the Carl Craig remix? The C2 mix seems kinda superfluous to me. - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) venting is there any new music out that is worth checking out? Just off the top of my head Upcoming albums from Anja Schneider, Marek Bois and Ellen Allien are pretty dope... and while it's not really Techno I'm in love with Brinkmann's new album too. On a more 313ish tip the latest EP from The Model on Undel_ne is bad ass.
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 10:52:57 AM: On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. LOL! Plastician? AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. yes, there is, but play along dagnabbit MEK
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different. hahaha BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different. hahaha BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdE lectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia
Everybody atending to this: you cannot miss Bass Clef. He's one the greatest producers to emerge from the UK Garage/Dubstep scene. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 05:18, Robert Taylor wrote: Plex PLEX @ CORSICA STUDIOS - 4th April 2008 Techno. Electro. Acid. Bass DJ Pete [Scion Verisons, Hardwax, Berghain] Neil Landstrumm [Scandanavia, Planet Mu] - LIVE 65D Mavericks [Surface, Blueprint] - LIVE Kronos Device [Battle Trax] - LIVE Jerome Hill [Don't] Bass Clef [Blank Tapes] - LIVE Datassette [Ai Records, All Your Bass] - LIVE Rebel Intelligence [RI, BLOC] Koenig [RI] DJ Nick [RI] Strepsil Bracket [PLEX, Rag Bone] Luke Handsfree [PLEX] James Tec [PLEX, BLOC] I'm gonna pop my Sud cherry though and go to see T and Rick Wade. Heard great things about K Soul too. The above line up is very tempting, esp Pete and Jerome (who rivals Mills for deck skills), but I've got to support Mr Watkins of course ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 21:06 To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdElectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia I may have overlooked something, what's the competition? fh ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
Re: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdElectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody atending to this: you cannot miss Bass Clef. He's one the greatest producers to emerge from the UK Garage/Dubstep scene. that is some faint praise if i've ever heard it ;) aside from that, i disagree. tom
RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
What's wrong with Cybertronic 909? MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 11:51:00 AM: Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
If it's a joint venture between Jean-Luc De Meyer, Dietrich Schoenemann, and Thomas de Quincy, that's fine. On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with Cybertronic 909? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
But that's the poitn, isn't it? It's analogic to, not the same thing. On 28/03/2008, at 09:19, robin wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex- industrial areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is less valid these days. btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison really holds. robin...
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
nope just one man, a drum machine, and his bluetooth MEK Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 12:09:50 PM: If it's a joint venture between Jean-Luc De Meyer, Dietrich Schoenemann, and Thomas de Quincy, that's fine. On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with Cybertronic 909? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) venting
Kit Clayton's Amber! The greatest technoish tune for me in a while! I was away from this list for a while. I don't if it was mentioned here before. On 28/03/2008, at 11:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab
Re: (313) new mix
Viddy nice. Thank you! Next time, may I suggest you throw a tracklist into the lyrics tab? ~T On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Jernej Marusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's 192kbps VBR.
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
I've lived in both Liverpool and Detroit, and I'd have to say Liverpool is very much like Detroit, although, to be fair, both Manchester and Liverpool have very similar qualities to Detroit. I do think though that Liverpool is a closer likeness. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? On 27/03/2008, at 13:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to Detroit by many people Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
Hey Robin, I'd have to disagree with you on that. I spent 3 years in Liverpool, just moving back to Detroit 9 months ago, and the two cities have a lot of similarities even today, actually, especially today. The growth occurring in Detroit is symbolically similar to the growth occurring in Liverpool. Growth being stimulated by funding of the arts and social programs. Hundreds of millions of dollars being invested into Detroit through the Skillman foundation and the Bank of America. Hundreds of millions of pounds being invested by the EU Capital of Culture. Jodie On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex-industrial areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is less valid these days. btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison really holds. robin...
Re: (313) Book This Guy For Demf
Wait a sec... he just said... Aint no part like a Diddy party... Can anyone tell me... Does any other city in the world say that other than Detroit? I've not heard that phrase anywhere else On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WAIT a SECOND! You can't DIVIDE BY ZERO! Where's Ashton? You can come out from behind the curtain. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:06 AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who cares
Re: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) SüdE lectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia
Forgive me if i got you wrong. But, faint or not, it's an opinion, founded on listening, on objective and subjective points. Just the Hackney Centralist EP is enough to support what i think about Bass Clef, altough there are many others great producers in this scene, like Shackleton, Atki2, Disrupt, Kode9 and the DMZ crew, just to name a few. Certainly, faint is your reply, with a lone i disagree, followed by no arguments, fainting in itself. ;) Kw On 28/03/2008, at 13:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody atending to this: you cannot miss Bass Clef. He's one the greatest producers to emerge from the UK Garage/Dubstep scene. that is some faint praise if i've ever heard it ;) aside from that, i disagree. tom
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
Well, I'm from Liverpool. I've been in Mcr 10 years and spent 5 years in Sheffield and Leeds. I've only been to Detroit once though so can't claim to have seen it all. The pure neglect and dereliction has gone from a lot of the northern Uk cities now but 80s/90s Sheffield I felt was the most like the D I saw. They do share some similarity so I guess I'm not disagreeing. robin... On 28 Mar 2008, at 17:59, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lived in both Liverpool and Detroit, and I'd have to say Liverpool is very much like Detroit, although, to be fair, both Manchester and Liverpool have very similar qualities to Detroit. I do think though that Liverpool is a closer likeness. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? On 27/03/2008, at 13:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to Detroit by many people Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom ### ### ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ### ### ###
(313) dj milton mix?
Hey 313, A friend of mine said that someone posted one of dj milton's mixes up here a while ago and i have looked through a bunch of digests looking for it to no avail. Anyone still got a link to that? thanks so much. tom
Re: (313) venting/Something Simple, Miami
Yessir, I am playing this party as Vidrio. Anybody in town feel free to stop by for some early evening shenanigans. Already ran into about 4-5 Detroit peeps on top of having a contingent of 4 Detroit Techno Militia gang members chilling at my house. - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:28:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting/Something Simple, Miami That reminds me ... http://www.isophlux.net/events.html If you just so happen to be in Miami this weekend (or even if you can get there) this 313 hued line-up looks more than interesting. Ken -Original Message- From: Alex Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) venting I'm on for the Pure Entertainment Value. :) Is there any way to resend all of the emails from the 3 months leading to the fest of the past few years so everyone can see the silliness of it all? Rehash, rehash, rehash. ;) Peace, Alex P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:55:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: (313) venting (WMC vs Movement)
Agreed, but S/N ratio is a bit overwhelming, if you get my meaning. Been down here for about a year now, and it's been interesting what they call electro down here now, but I have seen some decent shows from time to time. Looking forward to catching Jeremy Ellis sometime this weekend. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:35:09 AM Subject: Re: (313) venting (WMC vs Movement) Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 10:00:15 AM: P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! Interesting I was looking at the events/panels/artists playing at WMC this year and there's actually a good amount of quality stuff mostly House (In addition a good friend of mine lives down in Miami and knows a good portion of the people listed here) The World of Remixing Miramar North- ready room Balboa What should you charge for a remix? What is reasonable to pay for a remix? How do you decide whether or not to accept a remix offer? Learn do?s and don?ts from the experts on this interesting subject! Moderator: Farley 'Jackmaster' Funk- 101 Distribution Panelists: Maurice Joshua- Music World /Nu Soul Romulo Del Castillo- Schematic Music Co. Man Parrish- Parrish Digital BabyBam- Jungle Brothers Richard Devine- Warp/Schematic Ectomorph- Interdimentional Transmissions John Morales- MM Mix Productions The Recording Academy® WMC Present the Producers Panel Regency Ballroom- ready room Ocean Bar/Bistro The Florida Chapter of The Recording Academy, in conjunction with Winter Music Conference, will present The Producer?s Forum, a panel discussion featuring major electronic/dance producers who will discuss creative and business trends in electronic/dance music. Moderator: Kurosh Nasseri- Law Offices of Kurosh Nasseri Panelists: Jason Bentley- artist/producer/music supervisor (The Matrix trilogy) Carl Craig- Planet E Communications, Inc. Paul Van Dyk- Vandit Records CEO, VONYC.com Kaskade- Quiet City, Ultra Records Jimmy Douglass- 2007/2008 Best Dance Recording GRAMMY winner, producer/remixer 7th Annual WMC 08 - Re-Union presented by Power Of Love Productions Ouzos- 1766 Bay Road Talent- Roy Davis JR, Ron Carroll, DJ Romain, Mike AgentX, Ron D*8*Lim, Enrico Mantini, Alex Almeida, Alex Dimitri south Soul , Live- Dino V, Miyon, Diamondancer, Marty GotSoul Therapy Karu and Y- 71 N.W. 14th Street, Miami Talent- jojoflores, Danny Krivit, Jellybean Benitez, DJ Spen, Quentin Harris, Nick Holder, Rich Medina, DJ Pope, Halo, Demarkus Lewis, Ian Friday, Abicah Soul, Lars Behrenroth, Martin East and Luis Baro. Electronic Music -History Made Fresh! Valencia Suite ready room- Balboa It still sounds fresh!! Know your music history. Learn the difference between a good song and a classic song. Discover how these legends created legacies and how you can too! Moderator: Ectomorph-Interdimentional Transmissions Panelists: Hank Shocklee- Shocklee Entertainment Frankie Bones- East Music Group Inc. Carl Craig- Planet E Communications Inc. Cornelius 'Atlantis' Harris- Underground Resistance Man Parrish- Parrish Digital Junior Sanchez- X-Mix Productions Jesse Saunders- BrokenRecords.us Juan Atkins- Metroplex/Tresor Om Records presents OM: MIAMI 2008 Y Ultralounge- 71 NW 14th Street, Miami 33136 Talent- Mark Farina, DJ Sneak, Tiefschwarz, Metro Area, Marques Wyatt, DJ Heather, Cobblestone Jazz (LIVE) Rich Medina, Vikter Duplaix, Chuck Love featuring Four Feet, Hipp-e, Andy Caldwell, Mike Monday, Colette, Samantha, James J Boogie, Fred Everything, Johnny Fiasco, Nickodemus (Turntables on the Hudson), Home Garden, Daz-I-Kue (Bugz in the Attic), Black Spade (LIVE), Troydon, The One (LIVE), DJ Fluid, Sake One, Still Rob G, Tavin Reiter + Special surprise guests! South Beach Sessions-Music, Politics Social Awareness The Catalina Hotel- 1720 Collins Ave. (Dorset Rooftop) Pioneers of International Dance and Hip Hop music culture, media, and press rally around the world?s most pressing issues and corresponding campaigns. Preferred admission for badgeholders. Space is limited so please arrive at least ten minutes before start time to guarantee admission. Moderator: Lauren Segal- Next Aid Panelists: Christopher Willits- Ghostly International Chris Deckker- Earthdance International Wessel Van Eeden- Dance4Life Brittany Somerset- Praxis Public Relations Parag Bhandari ? UG Strategies A.J. Mora- SuDance Dan Giove- DubSpot 'Dub Echoes' Screening presented by WMC Metatronix Regency Conference Room 'Dub Echoes' is a documentary that shows how the Jamaican Dub movement influenced the birth of much of what we hear today- from electronic to punk to hip-hop music. Shot in Jamaica, England, the US Brazil ?Dub Echoes? features more than 40 interviews with key figures from both the reggae and the electronic music world discussing the history and the importance of the Dub movement. Just follow the bass lines! Screenings will be at
Re: (313) venting
On Fri, March 28, 2008 9:58 am, robin wrote: On 28 Mar 2008, at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? Thank god someone wants to talk about music. oh what the hey.. DJ T-1000 - Old School Prep Mix The Playlist: http://tinyurl.com/3cuwms The mix: http://www.puresonikrecords.net/mp3/oldschoolmix.mp3 marina robin...
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Those are his intitials, so I don't know if that trumps words. :) - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:45:57 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) AS1? there should be a battle off for use of name Plastic man vs Plastikman AS1 vs As One any others? tangents tangents all around MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 10:28:59 AM: That reminds me ... http://www.isophlux.net/events.html If you just so happen to be in Miami this weekend (or even if you can get there) this 313 hued line-up looks more than interesting. Ken -Original Message- From: Alex Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) venting I'm on for the Pure Entertainment Value. :) Is there any way to resend all of the emails from the 3 months leading to the fest of the past few years so everyone can see the silliness of it all? Rehash, rehash, rehash. ;) Peace, Alex P.S. It will never get as bad the WMC, but they're trying! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:55:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) venting I'd just like to point out that half of that stuff was actually on topic. . I was getting my coat anyway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: (313) venting
i heard there this 22 year old jewish-italo-american looking for friends on myspace - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: (313) venting so, after finding out that josh wink is cack, movement 08 is not like demf but peeps are going anyway, and the wire is the best tv show in the western hemisphere, is there any new music out that is worth checking out? sometimes i think the only reason i still am subbed on this list after 7 years is for the excellent mixes that get posted sorry, but i had to vent fab
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
i personally generally get turned off by made up names that are in no way referential to the artist. like a gimmick. although i guess record sleeves or label names are gimmicks too. On 3/28/08, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Are you messing with me or are you serious? I would assume that a guy in the music producing industry would have seen at least one copy of Sheet One or Musik. Just my opinion. I wasn't listening to dance music when Sheet One came out, but I saw it in the stores and thought 'wow, someone used a sheet of blotter as a cd cover. Then, there was the whole arrest of the kid that had the cd in his car when he was pulled over in Arizona. *shrug - Original Message From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:38:54 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different. hahaha BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
No. But sometimes the same reason that makes the music sound good is the reason that makes the producer NOT choose a stupid name. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 18:35, /0 wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you messing with me or are you serious? I would assume that a guy in the music producing industry would have seen at least one copy of Sheet One or Musik. Just my opinion. I wasn't listening to dance music when Sheet One came out, but I saw it in the stores and thought 'wow, someone used a sheet of blotter as a cd cover. Then, there was the whole arrest of the kid that had the cd in his car when he was pulled over in Arizona. *shrug you should never underestimate peoples' ignorance. especially not in the modern drum and bass or dubstep scenes in which all influences seem to come from within their own genre, knowledge of music history seems to be completely lost on them. tom
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) No. But sometimes the same reason that makes the music sound good is the reason that makes the producer NOT choose a stupid name. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 18:35, /0 wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
(313) Moodymann - the OC (was: venting)
ok my turn heard the very short clips over at Sounds of the Universe (http://www.soundsoftheuniverse.com/releases/?id=11456) and i very much like what i heard. Forgive me as i haven't been following Moodymann lately, I thought he was either getting to housey or formulaic for my tastes, but has he been on some sort of new tip? or is the clip too short and the tracks develop differently? Here the blurb says Kenny Dixon Jr keeps on developing his signature sound in unexpected new directions and this single represents another exciting step forward! From what i hear it seems he has been making stripped down dirty techno (God forbid i say the word minimal) and the last track sounds almost krunk. are there any other recent releases in the same vein i should be aware about? sounds very nice. fab
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. much like everything you say! tom
(313) Kowalsky: thanks
Kowalsky: Enjoyed your recent dubstep mixes. Thanks. Andrew -- sound/music/DJ courses I teach: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Chain Reaction downloadable samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 artist features column: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
Re: (313) Moodymann - the OC (was: venting)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heard the very short clips over at Sounds of the Universe (http://www.soundsoftheuniverse.com/releases/?id=11456) and i very much like what i heard. it is really really good. Forgive me as i haven't been following Moodymann lately, I thought he was either getting to housey or formulaic for my tastes, but has he been on some sort of new tip? he hasnt been formulaic or even very housey at all, since at least 2004. his releases have been strange and it is debatable if some is even house at all (his last one on Mahogani before this, black mahogani 2, etc). i dont know why you wouldnt be paying attention, some of his best tracks have been released in the past few years: the 2 private collections, ampapella, From what i hear it seems he has been making stripped down dirty techno (God forbid i say the word minimal) and the last track sounds almost krunk. if anything, until these past 2 with mick collins id say he was leaning far more jazzy, but these 2 have been very odd. this newest one is really good. tom
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
coming from you tom, thats a seal of approval. I wont let you down - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. much like everything you say! tom
Re: (313) dj milton mix?
http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/DJMilton-DJUrban-RowdyRowdy.mp3 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey 313, A friend of mine said that someone posted one of dj milton's mixes up here a while ago and i have looked through a bunch of digests looking for it to no avail. Anyone still got a link to that? thanks so much. tom
Re: (313) Moodymann - the OC (was: venting)
i knew you would have answered like this tom nevermind, im going out to hear ben klock and marco passarani. if anyone wants to know about it let me know f. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:42 AM Subject: Re: (313) Moodymann - the OC (was: venting) On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heard the very short clips over at Sounds of the Universe (http://www.soundsoftheuniverse.com/releases/?id=11456) and i very much like what i heard. it is really really good. Forgive me as i haven't been following Moodymann lately, I thought he was either getting to housey or formulaic for my tastes, but has he been on some sort of new tip? he hasnt been formulaic or even very housey at all, since at least 2004. his releases have been strange and it is debatable if some is even house at all (his last one on Mahogani before this, black mahogani 2, etc). i dont know why you wouldnt be paying attention, some of his best tracks have been released in the past few years: the 2 private collections, ampapella, From what i hear it seems he has been making stripped down dirty techno (God forbid i say the word minimal) and the last track sounds almost krunk. if anything, until these past 2 with mick collins id say he was leaning far more jazzy, but these 2 have been very odd. this newest one is really good. tom
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
It's perfectly possible to qualify in the large majority of sequenced music producers of today. What is ridiculous is your arrogance and your lack of argumentation. On 28/03/2008, at 20:35, /0 wrote: that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) No. But sometimes the same reason that makes the music sound good is the reason that makes the producer NOT choose a stupid name. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 18:35, /0 wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
Re: (313) Kowalsky: thanks
Thanks, Andrew. Apreciated. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 20:37, Andrew Duke wrote: Kowalsky: Enjoyed your recent dubstep mixes. Thanks. Andrew -- sound/music/DJ courses I teach: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Chain Reaction downloadable samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 artist features column: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you. But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno, oriental progressions, jazz, soul, various types of tribal percussions, dancehall and hip-hop. If what you're really saying is that the majority of style followers take influences only of that style itself, i agree. It happens in all styles, including techno and house. Due to their popularization as club music, the number of generic, functional and unexpressive tunes we can find, comming from techno and house areas, are like the number of grains of sand in a beach. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 20:33, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you messing with me or are you serious? I would assume that a guy in the music producing industry would have seen at least one copy of Sheet One or Musik. Just my opinion. I wasn't listening to dance music when Sheet One came out, but I saw it in the stores and thought 'wow, someone used a sheet of blotter as a cd cover. Then, there was the whole arrest of the kid that had the cd in his car when he was pulled over in Arizona. *shrug you should never underestimate peoples' ignorance. especially not in the modern drum and bass or dubstep scenes in which all influences seem to come from within their own genre, knowledge of music history seems to be completely lost on them. tom
Re: (313) Moodymann - the OC (was: venting)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:28 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i knew you would have answered like this tom why, because ignoring one of the most consistent producers out there for some invented reason is ridiculous? if your assessment had any standing in the reality of his output, my answer would have been nothing like it was. tom
Re: (313) [a little bit OT] Dubstep 2007
Looking forward to hearing this. I slept on it when you first posted about it, but Andrew reminded me. I looked a bit at that interview, translated. I wish I could speak all languages -- I speak enough German to really enjoy being in Germany, and understand some French and Spanish, but Portugese and Dutch baffle me. Though I almost like them better for not understanding them -- yesterday at lunch I sat near three women speaking Portugese -- don't know if they're from Brasil or Portugal, nd their conversation was pure music to me... And Brasil is a place I've always wanted to visit, ever since first hearing Airto Moreira and Milton Nasciemento in the 70s. Every place has it's good and bad things, but anyplace that makes music like Brasil has to be great in it's own unique way. I'm also a huge fan of the re-releases of Banda Black Rios from the 70s. Amazing funk music. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a bit too late, but a 2 part mix that i recorded with the best 2007 tracks, in my opinion, of course, is up at the great brazilian blog Tranquera, conducted by Bruno Belluomini (don't forget to check out his recent XLR8R exclusive mix!). The text and the interview are in portuguese, but i don't think that's gonna be an obstacle to get to the download links. Comments are welcome. Have a listen y'all! http://www.tranquera.org/2008/03/18/melhores-de-2007-por-dj-kowalsky/ []'s Kw
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you. But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno, oriental progressions, jazz, soul, various types of tribal percussions, dancehall and hip-hop. to my ears, when i hear the music i dont hear any of that stuff (aside from the gratuitous oriental thing that was popular for a while) especially compared to when the music was just 2-step. If what you're really saying is that the majority of style followers take influences only of that style itself, i agree. It happens in all styles, including techno and house. i feel like you will always have subsets of techno and house music influenced by disco, jazz, latin music, r+b, etc. and of course they mix it up, too. in dubstep it seems to be largely trend hopping in its influences, and they always seem to be more second hand than direct. for example, all this talk about techno influencing dubstep hasnt produced much that really sounds like techno in any way. it is like some distorted idea of what techno should be. Due to their popularization as club music, the number of generic, functional and unexpressive tunes we can find, comming from techno and house areas, are like the number of grains of sand in a beach. well of course there are tons of nonsense releases in the genres that have been around for 20 years, i just tend to completely ignore them ;) tom
(313) t-testing, 1, 2
apologies; trying to get wireless up and running now that am home with daughter and wife has gone back to work -- sound/music/DJ courses I teach: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Chain Reaction downloadable samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 artist features column: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
Re: (313) [a little bit OT] Dubstep 2007
Altough my english is lame, i learn something translating all kinds of songs when i was a kid. And after that, watching american and english movies. Believe me: trying to figure out what was being said in hip-hop lyrics helped a lot! :) Knowing a little bit of latin kinda help me in both latin and non- latin languages. There's latin radicals in portuguese, french, italian, spanish and in english and german too. Like mater, pater, omnibus... In fact, portuguese is a very intricated language, with complicated syntaxes between terms, large number of verbal conjugations. English seems to be much more practical, uncomplicated, openning other interesting ports for expression. To my ears, portuguese and dutch, sometimes, sound almost the same, in terms of rhythm and melody. I was really amazed with that when i was in amsterdan. It was like a very familiar spoken sound, but i couldn't understand sh*t! Besides some words like straat, centraal, gratis and others. Man... i've just rediscovered an Airto's record in my crates that i'm love with: Virgin Land. Recorded in the US. He's amazing, don't you think? Milton is great as well. Maybe one of the greatest brazilian composers that begun in the 60s. You should listen to the Clube da Esquina (something like Corner Club) volumes 1 and 2. Black Rio was a great band. If you want to dig more in the brazilian funk/jazz funk business, i recomend Moacir Santos. Specially the Coisas (Things) album. Thanks for the nice words, Kent. Hope my mixes can achieve some level to be beside the great mixes posted here. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 22:17, kent williams wrote: Looking forward to hearing this. I slept on it when you first posted about it, but Andrew reminded me. I looked a bit at that interview, translated. I wish I could speak all languages -- I speak enough German to really enjoy being in Germany, and understand some French and Spanish, but Portugese and Dutch baffle me. Though I almost like them better for not understanding them -- yesterday at lunch I sat near three women speaking Portugese -- don't know if they're from Brasil or Portugal, nd their conversation was pure music to me... And Brasil is a place I've always wanted to visit, ever since first hearing Airto Moreira and Milton Nasciemento in the 70s. Every place has it's good and bad things, but anyplace that makes music like Brasil has to be great in it's own unique way. I'm also a huge fan of the re-releases of Banda Black Rios from the 70s. Amazing funk music. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a bit too late, but a 2 part mix that i recorded with the best 2007 tracks, in my opinion, of course, is up at the great brazilian blog Tranquera, conducted by Bruno Belluomini (don't forget to check out his recent XLR8R exclusive mix!). The text and the interview are in portuguese, but i don't think that's gonna be an obstacle to get to the download links. Comments are welcome. Have a listen y'all! http://www.tranquera.org/2008/03/18/melhores-de-2007-por-dj- kowalsky/ []'s Kw
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Techno is one among many influences in the dubstep sound. I would not call the influence of techno second hand. Well it's an influence, not a copy/paste thing. Influences are not supposed to be identical, mimetic. Are supposed to be filtered, processed, and, sometimes, yes, distorted. I don't really know what techno should be. I know something concerning to what techno was, and is. Because it's surely more than i know of it. I don't know if dubstep producers get their techno flavour from american or european techno. Probabaly from the european (minimal?) techno and from the uk hardcore techno and rave culture passing on seamlessly over and over. I don't think they took influences directly from the roots of detroit techno - most of these producers are kids. But the techno flavour is there, anyway. Blended in a dub modus operandi. Just listen to Geiom's Overnight Biscuits or to Digital Mysticz's Neverland. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 22:21, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you. But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno, oriental progressions, jazz, soul, various types of tribal percussions, dancehall and hip-hop. to my ears, when i hear the music i dont hear any of that stuff (aside from the gratuitous oriental thing that was popular for a while) especially compared to when the music was just 2-step. If what you're really saying is that the majority of style followers take influences only of that style itself, i agree. It happens in all styles, including techno and house. i feel like you will always have subsets of techno and house music influenced by disco, jazz, latin music, r+b, etc. and of course they mix it up, too. in dubstep it seems to be largely trend hopping in its influences, and they always seem to be more second hand than direct. for example, all this talk about techno influencing dubstep hasnt produced much that really sounds like techno in any way. it is like some distorted idea of what techno should be. Due to their popularization as club music, the number of generic, functional and unexpressive tunes we can find, comming from techno and house areas, are like the number of grains of sand in a beach. well of course there are tons of nonsense releases in the genres that have been around for 20 years, i just tend to completely ignore them ;) tom
Re: (313) [a little bit OT] Dubstep 2007
By the way, comming to Brasil, let me know. I don't live in an interesting city to visit like Rio, São Paulo or the north-east cities. But it would be a pleasure to give you tips and hints around here. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 23:13, Kowalsky wrote: Altough my english is lame, i learn something translating all kinds of songs when i was a kid. And after that, watching american and english movies. Believe me: trying to figure out what was being said in hip-hop lyrics helped a lot! :) Knowing a little bit of latin kinda help me in both latin and non- latin languages. There's latin radicals in portuguese, french, italian, spanish and in english and german too. Like mater, pater, omnibus... In fact, portuguese is a very intricated language, with complicated syntaxes between terms, large number of verbal conjugations. English seems to be much more practical, uncomplicated, openning other interesting ports for expression. To my ears, portuguese and dutch, sometimes, sound almost the same, in terms of rhythm and melody. I was really amazed with that when i was in amsterdan. It was like a very familiar spoken sound, but i couldn't understand sh*t! Besides some words like straat, centraal, gratis and others. Man... i've just rediscovered an Airto's record in my crates that i'm love with: Virgin Land. Recorded in the US. He's amazing, don't you think? Milton is great as well. Maybe one of the greatest brazilian composers that begun in the 60s. You should listen to the Clube da Esquina (something like Corner Club) volumes 1 and 2. Black Rio was a great band. If you want to dig more in the brazilian funk/jazz funk business, i recomend Moacir Santos. Specially the Coisas (Things) album. Thanks for the nice words, Kent. Hope my mixes can achieve some level to be beside the great mixes posted here. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 22:17, kent williams wrote: Looking forward to hearing this. I slept on it when you first posted about it, but Andrew reminded me. I looked a bit at that interview, translated. I wish I could speak all languages -- I speak enough German to really enjoy being in Germany, and understand some French and Spanish, but Portugese and Dutch baffle me. Though I almost like them better for not understanding them -- yesterday at lunch I sat near three women speaking Portugese -- don't know if they're from Brasil or Portugal, nd their conversation was pure music to me... And Brasil is a place I've always wanted to visit, ever since first hearing Airto Moreira and Milton Nasciemento in the 70s. Every place has it's good and bad things, but anyplace that makes music like Brasil has to be great in it's own unique way. I'm also a huge fan of the re-releases of Banda Black Rios from the 70s. Amazing funk music. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a bit too late, but a 2 part mix that i recorded with the best 2007 tracks, in my opinion, of course, is up at the great brazilian blog Tranquera, conducted by Bruno Belluomini (don't forget to check out his recent XLR8R exclusive mix!). The text and the interview are in portuguese, but i don't think that's gonna be an obstacle to get to the download links. Comments are welcome. Have a listen y'all! http://www.tranquera.org/2008/03/18/melhores-de-2007-por-dj- kowalsky/ []'s Kw
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
ok, I take back ridiculous and apologize. I generally respect what you say on the list. if you care to, please explain the comment that I disagreed with. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) It's perfectly possible to qualify in the large majority of sequenced music producers of today. What is ridiculous is your arrogance and your lack of argumentation. On 28/03/2008, at 20:35, /0 wrote: that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) No. But sometimes the same reason that makes the music sound good is the reason that makes the producer NOT choose a stupid name. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 18:35, /0 wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
We often can see producers, moved by trendy approaches, do bad music. This same trendy superficiality often results in choosing trendy names. But it's not always true. It's just common. We have great wonderful records in not very well done or graphically interesting covers. Sometimes because the artist really don't care about it. It turns to be a secondary thing. Ok. A good artist may imprint the same capabilities that makes him do good music in the making of a graphically interesting cover, or in choosing a non-stupid-trendy pseudonym. As i said, after agreeing with you, sometimes. Kw On 29/03/2008, at 00:36, /0 wrote: ok, I take back ridiculous and apologize. I generally respect what you say on the list. if you care to, please explain the comment that I disagreed with. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) It's perfectly possible to qualify in the large majority of sequenced music producers of today. What is ridiculous is your arrogance and your lack of argumentation. On 28/03/2008, at 20:35, /0 wrote: that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) No. But sometimes the same reason that makes the music sound good is the reason that makes the producer NOT choose a stupid name. Kw On 28/03/2008, at 18:35, /0 wrote: so does the music sound better if the producer has a supercool! name? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi name and track titles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Static, forcing MIA to always be suffixed by (the German one), (the Detroit one), or (the irritating one). -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ## ## ###
(313) More and More Wild Kingdom...
Last week's Wild Kingdom playlist is at http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=29886 . A nasty Easter evening acid/minimal hour's interlude can be found at http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=29892 . This week's set features nuggets from Basic Channel, Wolfgang Voigt in various guises, Jeff Mills, Urban Electro, Isolee, Heath Brunner, Orbital, Forever Sweet, and loads more. Check the event calendar at KFJC for upcoming specials during the month of May. I'm doing a special on bands/tracks with synth names (remember?), and a 3-part Acid special. The Wild Kingdom airs on KFJC-FM 89.7, Saturday night/Sunday Morning, 12A-3A (7A-10A GMT). The webcast is at www.kfjc.org (follow the links). Present and past Wild Kingdom playlists are also archived there. You can also check out archived playlists from my first KFJC show Just Desserts that aired on Fridays 10P-2A from 1992 through 1999. Archived playlists exist for that show starting from Fall 1995 to New Year's Eve 1999/2000. If you do tune in (especially via the web), please take a little time to let me know your locale. I'm also interested in promo music from all over and in promoting local (San Francisco Bay area) techno-type events. If you want to do some fairly serious promotion, contact the KFJC promotions department at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to arrange ticket giveaways and/or to send information for inclusion in our concert outlook. Thanks to those who have sent promo music so far. Regards, Richard Hester Mr. Goodwrench The Wild Kingdom SU 12A-3A KFJC-FM 89.7, Los Altos Hills, California
