Re: [313] 'I'm so nasty'
I thought it was North Korea Fred From: Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] 'I'm so nasty' Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:37:04 +1100 Drexciya are from Ohio. Dopplereffekt are from North Dakota. Or is it the otherway around, maybe it's not North Dakota, it could be South Dakota, or is it North Carolina. I get confused with things that don't matter, like whether Drexciya is Dopplereffekt. ;) Always for those that know, and even those that don't. Ahem... 313 FAQ! -- benn [royal] glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net Look inside your soul. Listen to your heart. At 02:30 26/02/01 Monday, you wrote: that track... if no one else has already defined it on the list - is 'looking for a man' by cajmere aka green velvet. on cajual. fantastic track which I still drop at any given opportunity ;) btw heard a rumour which might have done the rounds (I'm a 313 newbie...sorry...) but is it true that Drexiyia (sp!!) = Dopplereffekt? I read that as a rumour on the Hard Wax list but noone seems to know 4 sure... cheers Nic they're doing it over there but they don't do it here... (david bowie - fashion) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Tha Mills thang
Let's please stop before this gets nasty for some people. Fred From: altair atomic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Tha Mills thang Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:40:21 - I heard Darw_n was jeff mills backup. From: james duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Tha Mills thang Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:10:21 Oh...hmmm, there must be some sort of mistake.WE booked the hpDJ to play our six hour office party..what to do, what to do. From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Tha Mills thang Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:17:58 Say Wht Mr. Mills is fired alright.FIRED UP to be coming home to funk yo' assess!!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Tha Mills thang Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:53:57 -0500 (EST) didn't you hear? they fired mills.. instead it's gonna be a 6 hour wizard set by the hpDJ. enjoy! I'm probably going to come in for the Wizard show, but before I click on Buy in Expedia ... First things first, are there any tickets left? I can either arrive late Thursday afternoon and stay until Sunday evening, or else arrive early Thursday morning on a late Wednesday night red-eye and ship back out Friday evening. I'd save $109 if I stayed until Sunday, but that would obviously be negated if I had to stay at a hotel for 2 extra nights. If any of my peeps in Detroit that know me want me to stick around for the weekend, plz 2 speak up in the next 6 or 7 hours :-) - Greg (Technotourist, West Coast Division) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re:[313] Detroit Techno Artist
Ok, this may prove to be a good topic itself (trying not to sound like a school teacher but failing): Maybe the reason this list isn't much about Detroit artists anymore is because there really aren't a lot of artists producing at high output levels in Detroit, Why? What's happening or not happening in Detroit, how has the creative environment changed? Fred From: tristan watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:[313] Detroit Techno Artist Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:08:33 -0800 (PST) Let's not forget this is a Detroit list. We need some focus, but we can't be too narrow with how we define what's on-topic. Maybe the reason this list isn't much about Detroit artists anymore is because there really aren't a lot of artists producing at high output levels in Detroit, and most of us who are really into it already have had the good discussions on most of the Detroit artists. So we're left talking about events, new releases and controversies. Since there aren't a lot of new releases, there isn't a lot of discussion about Detroit. Thoughts on how to get back to the music from Detroit? What are we neglecting? Tristan --- stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right on T! I too believe that more people here should see things in a broader perspective. Do not confine to techno and detroit in particular. There are marvelous gems to be discovered in house, hiphop, ambient, whatever. It's music we should be talking about! RD Hey people I have learned one thing if nothing on 313. That is that their are some very cool and knowledgeable people out their, but please some people on 313 should try and expand your mind on the scene a little more. Ive mentioned Scan 7 , Keith Tucker , Strand (Kech Harringhton and Bryon Bonds), Optic Nerve, Aux 88, Adult, Anthony Shakir, Guys from Souther outpost Australia, The closer, Dj godfather, Sharod Ingram and a load of others who have been around for quite some time who are very well known respected, professional and dependable artist who show up at all gigs. Please people how many times can you hear a jeff mills record or derrick may record, not that I dont like them let's hear more than just that. Hey LISTEN TRY AND EXPAND TO SOMETHING ELSE. I READ ALL MESSAGES ON 313 AND I tell you it's not at all what it use to be. PLEASE PEOPLE I WELCOME ALL REPLIES AND RESPONSES Wow the time has come discuss and discover someone else. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Tha Mills thang
Yeah, and I heard that the show wasn't going to be in Detroit at all because of some construction, instead the event is tentatively set for either Europe, Chicago, or Mars. ;) Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Tha Mills thang Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:53:57 -0500 (EST) didn't you hear? they fired mills.. instead it's gonna be a 6 hour wizard set by the hpDJ. enjoy! I'm probably going to come in for the Wizard show, but before I click on Buy in Expedia ... First things first, are there any tickets left? I can either arrive late Thursday afternoon and stay until Sunday evening, or else arrive early Thursday morning on a late Wednesday night red-eye and ship back out Friday evening. I'd save $109 if I stayed until Sunday, but that would obviously be negated if I had to stay at a hotel for 2 extra nights. If any of my peeps in Detroit that know me want me to stick around for the weekend, plz 2 speak up in the next 6 or 7 hours :-) - Greg (Technotourist, West Coast Division) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] To all Detroit residence: Heidelberg Project?
I'm going to try and make it there during the music fest... just from what I saw on the website looks amazing. It must have been beautiful when it was all there! City officials just don't have a clue. Fred From: devon akmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] To all Detroit residence: Heidelberg Project? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:16:44 ...I was over there a few nights ago. There are still some articles remaining to be seen and understood. However, a very, very, small fraction of what was previously there. I would still highly recommend it to those foreign to Detroit who have never seen it. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Tresor in New York (w/correction)
From mt friends @ Tresor: Subject: CORRECTION! Tresor Night @ Limelight, NYC vol. 3 (10 March) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:51:25 +0200 ¡¡¡ CORRECTION !!! ¡¡¡ CORRECTION !!! ¡¡¡ CORRECTION !!! DANIEL BELL WILL BE HEADING THE NEXT LIMELIGHT NIGHT! THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND LINEUP IS LISTED BELOW. PLEASE EXCUSE THE ERROR AND DUPLCATE NOTICE. MARC (TRESOR) -- TRESOR BERLIN TEN YEARS STRONG - - - TRESOR NIGHT VOL. 3 - - - Saturday 10 March 2001 - - - at the legendary LIMELIGHT CLUB, NYC - - - (corner 6th Ave 20th Street, Manhattan) Confirmed to play this event are: - - - DANIEL BELL (Seventh City/Tresor, Detroit) - - - TOBIAS SCHMIDT (Sativae/Nest/Tresor, Brighton) - - - DJ SHUFFLEMASTER (Subvoice/Tresor, Tokyo) - - - FUNCTION (Infrastructure, NYC) * Attached is the official flyer promoting the event. (actually it's not since it's in html I had to cut and paste this message without the graphic -Fred) This is the THIRD chapter in the first-ever series of bi-monthly events uniting the two legendary clubs LIMELIGHT NYC and TRESOR BERLIN. FURTHER INFORMATION Limelight Club, NYC 6th Ave 20th Street telephone: +1 212 807 7780 guestlist: +1 212 592 4912 Tresor Records, Berlin tel +49 30 6953 770 fax: +49 30 6953 7710 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Request for hotel/motel/BB in D
I need real info on places to stay (websites, phone numbers, etc.) in Detroit for DEMF. This is for an article I'm writing (i'm already booked in a room). Big hotels I can find but any info is welcome (as long as it's not BS or sarcastic...but if it is make it funny). In addition, I'd appreciate interesting things to check out while there that are true to Detroit. Plus if someone can hit me up again with the link to the virtual tour of Detroit's abandoned buildings. I remember someone sent out a list of some BBs, a youth hostel, etc. but alas I trashed it prematurely and don't have time to search the archive. Thanks and sorry to anyone annoyed with this request Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Request for hotel/motel/BB in D
Oh yeah, private replies will help avoid annoying many people. Thanks Fred From: Fred McMurry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Request for hotel/motel/BB in D Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:16:48 - I need real info on places to stay (websites, phone numbers, etc.) in Detroit for DEMF. This is for an article I'm writing (i'm already booked in a room). Big hotels I can find but any info is welcome (as long as it's not BS or sarcastic...but if it is make it funny). In addition, I'd appreciate interesting things to check out while there that are true to Detroit. Plus if someone can hit me up again with the link to the virtual tour of Detroit's abandoned buildings. I remember someone sent out a list of some BBs, a youth hostel, etc. but alas I trashed it prematurely and don't have time to search the archive. Thanks and sorry to anyone annoyed with this request Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
To all Detroit residence: Heidelberg Project?
http://www.heidelberg.org/ Is this still active? I was reading quickly (will go back and delve deeper) and saw there were legal problems... Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] DEMF
Re: If it is on Belle Isle, whose in for seeing the island's choice aquarium that features the rare large lake bass with me? that always makes me chuckle. Hey yeah! Lake Bass! Is that like the even rarer Large Booty Bass? Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Turner... strangely rewarding
Anyone know who Turner is? I'm listening to samples from Groovetech. The album title is Disappearing Brother on Ladomat. Please hit me up in private with any info because it's probably not linked to 313. Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Turner... strangely rewarding
Ok, I tried this once but I don't think it went through... Anyone know who Turner is? I'm listening to samples from Groovetech. The album title is Disappearing Brother on Ladomat. Please hit me up in private with any info because it's probably not linked to 313. Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
press contacts
If anyone has contact names for press relations/promotion at 7th City please email me privately. Thanks Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Ron Trent (and Forbes)
Regarding Ron trent... I was looking for info on him a while back and came across this curiosity: Ron Trent in Forbes magazine. http://beta.forbes.com/asap/2000/1127/rtrent.html Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ron Trent Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:32:28 EST I didn't know USG was a label as well that's the name of the collective but a label too??? do tell Metaphor?? Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] money tracks
Luke Slater's Love always get people up around the decks to see what's playing. Fred From: RC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] money tracks Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:00:36 +1100 I don't play records out much, but once my friend had this party at Middle Head on the North Shore of Sydney Harbour, it's actually army property the decks and dancefloor were in this huge maze like concrete bomb shelter. The acoustics were interesting to say the least, part of the shelter roof was missing so you could look out over 180 degree views of Sydney Harbour. Despite the amazing venue, the party seemed fairly stagnant, so I started off with one of my favourite tracks: KMS 047 Shakir's Shock Therapy easily his best work that I own (IMO) Goddam! Percussion was flyin' everywhere, and those nasty synth stabs, sheeitt! I don't know if that's when peoples stuff started to come on or what, but the place was suddenly jackin'! Incidentally does anyone know or have any more info for Shakir recording as K.O.T. on Black Bottom records? I think he did a track called The Jit for the label? Is it his hip hop stuff? for Detroit list members Is the Jit still an acceptable manouvre on Detroit dancefloors? Peace, Rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Webshop and Jockey Question..
Steven Brown, Steve Poindexter, Kareem Smith, DJ Skull, all of whom are on Djax-Up-Beats. Try also Female, Regis, Taka-Aki, Takaaki Itoh, Advent, Oliver Ho. Fred From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Erin Swenson' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Webshop and Jockey Question.. Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:14:38 -0800 Claude Young Mike Dearborn Mark Verbos DJ Skull Punisher Rob Hood Richie Hawtin Shake those are some of my recommendations...I am sure there are plenty of people out there who can make more... JEFF! -Original Message- From: Erin Swenson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 10:22 PM To:313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Webshop and Jockey Question.. Also, a question for the more informed 313 users: Ok, so I love Steve Rachmad, DJ Rush, Jeff Mills, Andrei Morant... who else would I like? I really love that bangin' loop stuff, real minimal, but I don't know any names really. Feel free to help me out. -erin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Dream Sequence?
Wha? Tresor says across this all-new double CD this is volume 3. I've checked all the Dream Sequence releases and this is not a re-release. If you're positive I'll check with the Tresor rep but I think you're info is wrong. Fred From: Jongsma, K.J. To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Dream Sequence? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:55:20 +0100 It's a re-release of an old Blake Baxter album. The original album was released in 1992 or so. This is definitly not Blake's best work. Try his latest work or his earliest. can someone post me a review on Dream Sequence album on Tresor (i think it is Tresor 160) and also some more info on this artist, please? thanks ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Cheap hotel prices in downtown D
Hey there everyone going to DEMF '01 Got a link here that might benefit you. http://www.180096hotel.com/ Through them I just booked our DEMF weekend, a single bed (king/queen) two person occupancy for $89 a night at the Pontchartrain. Can it get better? Please don't say yes ;) Now if anyone can help me find a flight from Mpls. to DTW cheaper than $79 each way. Short of flapping my arms of course. Fred PS Looking forward to putting some faces to emails. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] no one should be afraid of detroit
Guess I'll leave my jacket at home then ;D Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] no one should be afraid of detroit Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:53:36 -0500 I lived in Detroit from '85 to '92 and never had many problems. Same as Dharma, my buddy's car was broken into and our jackets were stolen (cell phones and radio left intact) while we were at the old Currency Exchange a back in '96. My Car was broken into back in '91, but otherwise, nothing eventful. True there are som areas of the city that I wouldn't hang out in (Cass/MLK Blvd area, Warren Ave/23rd, ect...), but that goes for any major city across the globe. Fear not travelers, tha D is a cool place to be. Dharma Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/06/2001 03:42:49 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] no one should be afraid of detroit Amen to that. some parts may feel a bit reminiscent of a third world country, but for the most part you don't have to walk around fearing for your life. in all the times i've been to detroit, and we're talking some of the worst parts, the only thing that's ever happened to me is that my windsheild got broken and my coat stolen out of the car in february. my wallet was even left...i like to think it was a cold homeless person. anyway, you don't need to be afraid of detroit, especially the area of the demf. dharma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] experimental hip hop?
Add Smith Mighty to that... they have lots of dub influence. Fred From: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] experimental hip hop? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:08:03 -0500 I am also finding excellent releases on the Grand Central Records label, home to Rae Christian from UK. One of my favorites is ONLY CHILD's Satellites Constellations. Excellent album that blurs the lines between hip-hop, rb and house. http://www.grandcentralrecords.co.uk/ ben -Original Message- From: *** ASKEW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:59 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] experimental hip hop? Gwendal wrote: what exactly is your defiition of experimental hip-hop ? mediadrome wrote: doing new things with old forms - pushing the limits of commercial music - new ways of using words; experimental music gets the idea across Exact definitions aside, check out the following hip hop artists/releases: Mix Master Mike - 'Anti-Theft Device' 2LP (Asphodel) 1998 killer fully-realised LP of instrumental hip hop, produced by Naut Humon, taking the idea of turntablism beyond simple tricks and into advanced hip hop expressionism (or something like that). Dj Q-Bert - 'Wave Twisters' 2LP (Galactic Butt Hair) 1988 anything Mix Master Mike can do... i can do better, incredible hands-on vinyl digital manipulation, like 'Anti-Theft Device' this is inspired instrumental hip hop. Company Flow - 'Little Johnny From the Hospital' (Rawkus) 1999 mental hip hop and sticky funk produced by El-P and Mr Len, the personality and expression in this LP is amazing. Push Button Objects - 'Trot' (off Schematic 003 12) PBO - 'Non Existant (Gescom mix)' (off Chocolate Indust. 002 12) 1999 PBO - 'Yambooze' (off 'Deeper Concentration' comp, Oxygen Music) 1998 PBO - 'Nocturnal Advice' (off Skam 011 12) Edgar Farinas has been producing some pretty interesting hip hop inspired stuff for a couple of years, his earlier stuff was more on an electronic IDM tip... while his newer stuff is moving towards a slightly more conventional cut-up hip hop sound. Quite a bit of music is being produced under the 'experimental/IDM' hip hop banner at the moment... I like the above releases because they play with the stylistic sounds and structure of hip hop, but still keep the tough edge and street soul that most 'real' hip hop has. cheers ~Askew _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Cheap hotel prices in downtown D
Re: I checked the price for Pontchartrain(correct spelling, its down to ?$89.95 USD!!!). I've got three nights booked there, Saturday thru Monday (don't forget that the big end is on Monday night... how late did it go last time?) so staying overnight til Tuesday is recommended. However, Pontchartrain is $89 a night until Monday night, it jumps to $109 US ($335 total with tax for the three nights). Just to let everyone know. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Cheap hotel prices in downtown D Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:42:52 EST Hi, There are a slew of hotels on Jefferson Ave too...starting right past the Shorecrest motel down to Grand Ave. There's a Days Inn ($55.96 -$69.95 USD newly remodeled and its got a pool too, so get it while its hot ! My pick!), Comfort Inn (1999 e. jefferson - $89.00 - $159.00 USD). I checked the price for Pontchartrain(correct spelling, its down to $89.95 USD!!!). I think there's a Holiday Inn Express or a Howard Johnsons down there too but I'll check. Anyway, point your browsers to this link for Days Inn, Comfort Inn or Pontchartrain: http://aolsvc.digitalcity.com/detroit/travel/?_dci_e_t=incoming_dci_a_l=webce nter%2etravelocity%2edigitalcity%2ecom%3a80%2fhotsmultiple%2ectl%3fSEQ%3d98150 521405309802062001%26LANG%3dEN Click the word hotel in the book room box in the middle then fill out the necessary info on the next page...make sure you type jefferson ave on the next page in the address field or those hotels may not show up and select within 1 mile vicinity. Days Inn should pop up, as well as Pontchartrain (and others) which has the special key icon under the price... The Area: The area in which these hotels are situated seems like an decent area, well lit, with their own parking lots.I've been around that area in the Fall, cruisin around there at night and noticed all these hotels, all look new...very decent. There are alot of car dealers, residentials...I was told Kenny Larkin and Mills used to live in this area... the US immigration office is there also and a CVS Pharmacy/Food store (24 hours) if you get the munchies. Not to mention, a mid-sized plaza somewhere on that street with all kinds of stores, I think there's a Fuddruckers(sp?) restaurant in the Plaza too. If Big Boy's is up your alley, there's one in the area too. Just keep straight down on Jefferson...to just before the entrance bridge to Belle Isle, on the left side of street. Or check out Shorecrest's famous cruisine, that Mad Mike recommends. The restaurants I recommend if you want to go further north on Woodward is Union Street (look for a green National City sign and parking lot on your left...great food, very hip, with a bar. =) Or across the street from that is The Majestic...had dinner with Adam Beyer and his gf, one of the motor detroit guys, and Alan, there once...very nice. Adam and his gf were both chompin on some very delicious looking, organic salads. =) Ok enough blabbing...my apologies, music heads. Just wanted to give people a rough idea of what to expect ... I hope this helps...if you need any help, please feel free to email me. =) Chow, G. A Chicagoan who hangs out in Detroit a little too much. =) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets
This hits upon a problem in many DJ communities: Newcomers let the quality of the set fall ENTIRELY on their records, instead of using their SKILLS to pump up the crowd. Give some people nowadays a crate of records from just 8 years ago they wouldn't know what to do with themselves. Who is teaching these skills to the newcomers? In my town (not Detroit) most DJs are so concerned about getting recognition and respect, and keeping it, that they don't share what they know (if they know) with others. The local DJ crews are impossible to break into... I have a friend who gave a tape to this guy in one collective. The entire collective loved it but my friend was bullshitted about being able to spin with them. Promises unfulfilled. He's a good DJ and has skills to share as do the guys in the collective but since they are so selective (rejective?) there is no chance of cross-pollination of ideas. Where do many newcomers learn to spin? I'd say from listening to mix CDs which are usually made to shift product which means they let the entire song play out and use computer programs to mix. Only recently has there been a fair amount of CDs that have the live sound (short mixes, spinbacks, hard cuts, mixes that aren't seamless). So I guess the point is established DJs need to share skills with others, it worked for jazz. Which brings me to another topic...that last episode of the Jazz series from PBS...did they just ignore some of the best Jazz of the last 20-30 years? Nice job of slamming Cecil Taylor too. Brandford Marsalis should go stick his horn up his ass. He completely contradicted himself as well when refering to John Coltrane vs Cecil Taylor. And another thing, Sun Ra? Where was he? Don Cherry? It was interesting how they retreated to the safety of Ellington and Satchmo evertime they discussed newer non-traditional jazz. As much as I love both of those guys (more than words can say) I was very offended by the ommision of some of the most intriguing music ever made. Fred From: juliette morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] the LONG short of dj sets Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:05:52 -0600 After reading this thread for a while now, I would like to respond to Lester's original post..; IMO, you see records being played out longer than before (i.e. the 80's) due to the fact that dj's just aren't quick mixing with the energy like they used to; doing tricks, taking chances, etc... the records being made today do all the work for you (95% of which, IMO, are quite 2-dimensional /or gimmicky..). In addition, this is still TOO much work for some people who don't want to get off their ass- the same people who are creating ways to mix on their computer; now they don't EVER have to leave their desk to be a dj!! (Sorry, this is an entirely different thread...) cTo me, I would rather hear someone using THEIR creativity with a bunch of deep, sick tracks (see Traxx, Dj Hell, Theo, Carlos Souffront, etc.) to make a special moment on the dancefloor rather than the latest remix of (insert your fave cheesy childhood pop song here) played next to the flavor of the moment ravehouse/salsa/buildup/trance amalgam again again. Going to Motor is quite the museum for this nowadays, djs who used to beat it for 13 years now play the latest greatest hands-in-the-air cut that the guy last week played (or the guy who opened). So long as you can beat match nowadays you got those 20 current tunes that'll make the glow sticks move faster, make a tape send it to (insert your fave club from the D here..)!! It doesn't matter if you have style all your own, you will only get paid 1/3 of what the big names get (even though they just started playing this cheesy recently too (shhh.. don't tell!!)). But I digress. In response to... I too hate the 'look mama how many records I can squeeze into an hour'-style. Well, true. Anyone who is playing that many *just* for the sake of doing so... is a moron. I do however think that some up comers need to be trained as to when enough is enough-- 8 minutes of Jaguar and counting... the more i read this, the more i ask myself if you guys have ever heard a really superb dj (which e.g. jeff mills is a solarsystem away from). And finally someone who dares to say that Jeff Mills is not God behind the decks. Mills never claims to be God, why would you listen to anyone quoting such tripe? However if you're denying Mills' ability as an exquisite dj and artist, I would be curious to see who is 'superb' in your book. You know I heard Oakenfold is pretty smooth. Same for Guiness Stout and babies' bottoms... Smoothness all the way baby! yeah. confused when i heard a good track and another one is rolling in like a train in my face, 5 beats faster than the one which is just playing (umfgadumppengbaengbumm). even if i seem to be alone on this point of view, but i can't dance to that. OBVIOUSLY...! Who wants to hear someone who can't
Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets
That's called cutting your teeth. It's all part of the process that seems to have been forgotten in this genre of music. Everybody sucks at one time or another... and everyone woodsheds and comes back better. Fred From: dj revolver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:24:57 -0500 i've seen people do it the other way too. practice a few months in their bedroom and think their ready to play in front of people then scare people away in a small club due to bad beat matching and track transitions. good for them for being confident enough in themselves to try it - bad for them after when they feel frustrated with themselves and their lack of response from patrons at the club. steve From: joshtwentythree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:09:46 -0800 (PST) If they are that good, they need to come out of their bedrooms more often. Glyph some of em just don't want to...this kid I know Mike...he plays some awesome techno sets with two decks and a 909...he never promotes himself...he plays at a couple house parties for friends every once in a while...doesn't get out at all...and he's awesome...when asked why he says he just does it for himself...I guess I'm just to egotistical to identify with that...;) josh23 __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Jazz IS the teacher!
I just realized all the other great artists that are missing from Burns' version of Jazz... Alic Coltrane, Pharoah Sanders, Eric Dolphy, Albert Ayers, George Russell, Roscoe Mitchell, oh man! Burns and Wynton Marsalis are doing such an injustice to the music, all music. Fred From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Jazz IS the teacher! Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:14:31 - spinbacks, hard cuts, mixes that aren't seamless). So I guess the point is established DJs need to share skills with others, it worked for jazz. Definitely. With jazz the communal spirit was most evident in the late 60s and early 70s and that seemed to be a necessary response to a lack of commercial opportunities. Even Lee Morgan, who had a fairly mainstream sound, was getting involved. Some great music came about this way, and in the face of extreme financial pressure. Sun Ra's massive entourage lived on meagre amounts in a dilapidated house in Philadelphia and made some of the most way ahead of it's time music ever. In Detroit there was Marcus Belgrave and all the Tribe lot, who gathered local musicians (in the wake of Motown's departure to LA) and put out self financed LPs, put on music workshops etc. There's the well known example of the Art Ensemble of Chicago, too. This sort of thing is in spirit what UR are doing just now. Strip away the guerrilla imagery and you see it's a pretty apt metaphor for what they *are* doing: their urban regeneration, promotion of unknown local talent etc. Arguably, UR are also pretty commercially successful for their genre, too, so it doesn't require the financial asceticism. It's a method that works in all kinds of ways. And I wish it was an example more people stuck to: get involved with like minded souls (DJs, folk with sound systems, promoters), and don't d**k them over, just to get yourself ahead. Not only is it a s**t thing to do as a person, but it's a stupid thing to do, as well. As you can see, then: IMnsHO, Jazz is the teacher :) Jonny - should put up or shut up, FJ? ;) P.S. As for the Burns documentary, it does seem outrageous. We won't get it for a while, but I have heard enough for me to be watching it with teeth firmly clenched in advance. The dig at Cecil Taylor seems particularly gratuitous. It sounds like he was only there to be knocked down. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Jazz IS the teacher!
I just realized all the other great artists that are missing from Burns' version of Jazz... Alic Coltrane, Pharoah Sanders, Eric Dolphy, Albert Ayers, George Russell, Roscoe Mitchell, oh man! Burns and Wynton Marsalis are doing such an injustice to the music, all music. Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Fwd: Guidance Radio ! 24x7 stream
Thought some might like this... however, the link may not work so cut and paste it. Fred From: Guidance Recordings Announcement list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Guidance Radio ! 24x7 stream Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:35:27 -0600 Guidance Recordings Announcement list - http://www.33rpm.com Hello Subscribers, We have just added a Live Stream broadcast on the 33rpm site. This stream randomly picks titles from our catalog and plays them 24 hours a day. This is a good way for you to listen to our catalog for the titles that you may have missed. In order to listen to this broadcast, you'll need QuickTime 4 installed. If you do not already have QuickTime you can get a FREE copy at http://apple.com/quicktime The system does not yet display the name of the titles, but we are working on it. Check it out, and let us know what you think... thank you for listening - the Guidance team. ps. We'll be switching our streaming method from Real Audio to QuickTime, so please download and install QuickTime either way. -- join our announcement mailing list: http://GuidanceList.listbot.com/ ___ Guidance Recordings 160 N. Halsted, 2nd Floor Chicago, IL, 60661 tel:312.226.8387 fax:312.226.1343 http://www.33rpm.com ___ __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] an observation
Re: i get a kick out of the samples from ferris beuller. Sort of, it's actually from Yellow's Oh, Yeah. Check them out. Fred From: Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] an observation Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:03:21 -0500 (EST) a few months back someone posted to the list requesting a description of richie hawtin's minus yellow. i believe the only response that was posted was like, pretty boring - sounds just like minus orange, or something to that effect. a couple weeks later i came across it in a record bin but didn't pull it out, recalling what i had heard about it. recently i've borrowed a copy from a friend and have grown quite fond of it, and i get a kick out of the samples from ferris beuller. plus there are some pretty nice locked grooves that are good dj tools: you can go from one side of orange to a yellow locked groove, and then flip orange (its the same bpm) to the other side and quickly mix it in. sounds pretty good IMO. so now i'm quite wishing i had picked up that copy i saw in the record bin. just goes to show ya. . . kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] New on the list
Try this link to Eevolute and FWD: both of which are his labels http://www.eevolute.com/ also check the Ifach label for his twenty two release http://www.ifach.co.uk/ Cheers Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] New on the list Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:10:41 -0500 Hey I'm a big techno fan but have been off the scene for a couple years now and slowly getting back into it. My first of many questions is does anybody know what Steffan Robbers is up to these days, and can you recommend some recent releases from him. Thanks and all that Paul _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] fingers question
Don't overlook a Larry Heard remix on Richard Les Crees' Dengon promo on Distance records. From the Distance website: PROMO TRACKLISTING A1. ORIGINAL A2. FREDRIK STARK REMIX B1. LARRY HEARD UNDERGROUND MIX COMMERCIAL RELEASE TRACKLISTING A. ORIGINAL B. FREDRIK STARK REMIX ** LARRY HEARD REMIX 12 (Di 1777) WILL BE PROMOED SOON ** go to http://www.distancemusic.com/NEWREALI/index.html for complete details. Fred From: stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] fingers question Date: 15 Jan 2001 08:45:28 - Indeed, it's about time Larry gets some recognition for his brilliance. This man single-handedly defined house music with a slew of groundbreaking material, often with the incredible Robert Owens adding vocals and creating more magic :-) Mystery Of Love, I'm Strong, Bring down the Walls, it just goes on and on. For those who wish to discover him I suggest the Mr Fingers Classics album on La Casa Records. Played 'Music Takes Me up' this weekend to a very young crowd who were used to the cheesy house of the resident DJ, they went absolutely mad, nuff said I believe... RD I've been waiting for some talk about Fingers, Inc.! I love his/their stuff and I'm activly collecting it right now. He's what I know: Mystery of Love by Mr.Fingers/Fingers, Inc. originally released on Alleviated Records (catalogue # ML-2201) year 1985 Then release on DJ International Records (cat.#DJ-892) in 1986. charted in Billboard at #35 for 12singles sales the week of April, 26, 1986, and #25 for club play May, 14, 1986. this is where I got it from http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/ Cheers Fred PS Anytime you want to talk Larry Heard or Chicago House drop me a line! From: juliette morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] fingers question Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:08:54 -0600 Can anyone confirm the exact catalog # appearance of the FIRST pressing of mystery of love, NOT the one on DJ International. My copy is supposedly ML-2201 (alleviated records), however it also has a second catalog #; It is a white label with black type. I believe I have the original pressing, but I would like the input of anyone with extensive knowledge of early Chicago/ Larry Heard. Any help is appreciated. Thank you. JM _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] fingers question
I've been waiting for some talk about Fingers, Inc.! I love his/their stuff and I'm activly collecting it right now. He's what I know: Mystery of Love by Mr.Fingers/Fingers, Inc. originally released on Alleviated Records (catalogue # ML-2201) year 1985 Then release on DJ International Records (cat.#DJ-892) in 1986. charted in Billboard at #35 for 12singles sales the week of April, 26, 1986, and #25 for club play May, 14, 1986. this is where I got it from http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/ Cheers Fred PS Anytime you want to talk Larry Heard or Chicago House drop me a line! From: juliette morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] fingers question Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:08:54 -0600 Can anyone confirm the exact catalog # appearance of the FIRST pressing of mystery of love, NOT the one on DJ International. My copy is supposedly ML-2201 (alleviated records), however it also has a second catalog #; It is a white label with black type. I believe I have the original pressing, but I would like the input of anyone with extensive knowledge of early Chicago/ Larry Heard. Any help is appreciated. Thank you. JM _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] For the Jazz thread... Fw: The popularity of jazz
The only thing I know for sure is if Burns even mentions Kenny G. or John Tesh in this documentary I'm gunna be writing a letter;P Fred From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] For the Jazz thread... Fw: The popularity of jazz Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:41:20 - Sorry for the OT nature (I try to bring it back below), but enough people seem to be interested in the Burns' documentary to make me forward this from the Saturn Sun Ra list. The gist of the argument over there is that Burns' is using the argument that jazz was more popular then so he's only interested in it's historically popular incarnation. I like this post more, though, because it contains a valuable general lesson on the importance of making sure you can be heard, etc. (witness UR's policy of keeping stuff available - I'm glad someone makes sure they have the means to do that.) There are other jazz/techno parallels they have not told you of ;) All IMHO, of course. Jonny. - Original Message - From: Thelonious Sphere Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: The popularity of jazz One of the figures being bandied about in the orchestrated pr campaign for the series is that jazz now makes up 2% of the market instead of the 70% it had years ago. Commentators are using that as proof of jazz's fall from popularity. When Zero Saturns are in print, Sun Ra gets 0% of the market. when some saturns are in print, he gets a certain % of the jazz market when ALL the Saturns are in print, he gets his fair share of the market.. and that applies to *every* jazz artist.. more people are looking for albums to pop into print, and if they aint in print, they aren't in *any* form of the market cept the rare used bins at record stores on infrequent occasions my theory for jazz getting 'more' popular has everything to do with albums getting more obtainable when stuff like CD's breathe old wine into new bottles, when the old bottles on vinyl are too scarce.. and when record companies keep the slow sellers in print, long enough, they get to be stable bits of obtainable history available at any record store, ready to be fruitful and multiply into the listening music of the future. if anything the series might be good for getting everything Armstrong back into print with his 'possible' 100th birthday. and improving the market for more books 'on jazz', and the repercussions could be bit more interest in record companies giving jazz a little more 'in-printdom'... But what exactly is being compared here? One would figure that jazz making up 70% of the recording market And how much of that 70% is dance/swing music... and do we wanna compare the Music World of Tommy Dorsey to the world of Joshua Redman? do we compare the sales figure of Big Bill Broozy to Keb Mo, and talk about the death of Acoustic Chicago Blues? I think the problem is that people like to use numbers like that because they're wanting to compare jazz to the latest and greatest factors in musical culture, not to mention the fads and pressures of record labels to 'do something' I think what we should worry about is what is good music, and we'll let the numbers and popular take care of themselves.. All you need are record companies to allow the past and present to be *clearly shown* so there *is* a future. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Deep House mix ID
The tune I'm wondering about is from David Mancuso - Live @ The Loft, New York 1992 (Bootleg) from the Deep House archives(http://deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm). It's number 440 on the list. The track I'm interested in is the very first one...it sounds like it could be product of early Detroit or New York. Any help is welcome. Email me privately please. Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
another ID needed
Here's another one from the same Mancuso mix and it's _got_ to be from Detroit: starts up around 16:13 minutes with a Reese style bassline, then vibes, a female vocal that sounds like it's saying Let's Go, heavy tribal beats, a male vocal saying work - work - work then the female saying surrender yourself, bits of raw piano and big hard horn/key stabs while the male vocal continues to say work it. If it's Derrick May or Kevin I'll be rather embarrassed. ok...if you can identify _any_ of the tracks off this mix (there aren't many, it's pretty short) please drop me a line. I can hear Larry Heard/Robert Owens Bring Down the Walls as the last tune. #440 David Mancuso - Live @ The Loft, New York 1992 (Bootleg) http://deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm email privately please Cheers Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Jazz is the Teacher...
Kodwo Eshun deals with this oversight of later jazz in his book More Brilliant than the Sun: The last 2 decades of jazz consitute a collective machine for forgetting the years '68-75, the Era when its leading players engineered jazz into a Afrodelic Space Program, an Alien World Electronics. 70s fusion, 80s neo-classical, 90s Acid Jazz, jazz rap, freejazz: all these bitter enemies are united in their abosulte aversion/amnesia to the Jazz Fission Age. All hark back to before or after the Electronic Era that starts with George Russell's '68 Electronic Sonata for Souls Loved by Nature and ends with Macero's Miles's Dark Magus in '75. I don't agree 100 percent with this statement but he deffinately has a strong argument (developed in the book). Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Jazz is the Teacher... Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:27:38 -0500 on 1/11/2001 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep but this thing is on the 3rd episode with 7 more to go(I think). I'm most certain they'll cover that era. I wouldn't be too hopeful about any coverage of the future of jazz, or it's influence on hip-hop, pop, or electronic music. It's clear that Burn's is telling the story of Jazz's creation and growth, and prefers the safety of the first few decades. Here's an interesting Metro Times article: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=1166 Nonetheless, I am expecting the DVD set before the week is out. I'll probably start at the end and work backwards... -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Tejada interviews?
I'm looking for any interviews with John Tejada...anyone know where I can find some? Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
dub beats
This may seem completely OT so please respond to me directly, not to the 313 list. I'm looking for dub beats...real dub styles. I know Basic Channel and the like (Deep Chord etc.) and I'm looking for more labels/artists like the Burnt Friedman release a while back. Any help is welcome. The deeper and more freaked out the better. Cheers Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Bass booty ?
that 'little dick' song, whoever wrote it Are you thinking about the Short Dick Man track by DJ Funk? That has got to be one of the funniest tracks ever made. My friend has a copy that he keeps because it's just too damn funny not to. Plus it's not some guy saying Pop that or some other crap. It's actually about two women talking about the size of some guy's privates and how it's the smallest thing they've ever seen. It's still raunchy and lowest common denominator... kinda like a Howard Stern Show put to music. I love the rawness of the music but the lyrics leave me vacant. I prefer stuff that uplifts everyone and is sensual... not sexual. Although... if you want something from a female perspective check out Peaches. I saw her live with Gonzales and she is raw and nasty without being lewd. Sophisticated porn music? She only had an 808 as accompaniment. The music had that hard jacking sound and the lyrics are nasty but somehow coming from a woman it was really cool. You can find her stuff on Kitty-YO! Records @ http://www.kitty-yo.com/ Otherwise Booty Bass is just what emma said it is... would u like some sexist drivel with your bass? yes please! i had a considered mail about the whys and wherefores of bollocks bass, but i figured i needed to respond on the level of the music. all they have to do is cut the lyrics but then all those hormonal adolescent boys/men/grrls won't be interested, *sniff* *snort* *dribble* emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Bass booty ?
Oops...it was a MC505, not a 808 as I had previously stated. Fred From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Bass booty ? Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 03:46:03 that 'little dick' song, whoever wrote it Are you thinking about the Short Dick Man track by DJ Funk? That has got to be one of the funniest tracks ever made. My friend has a copy that he keeps because it's just too damn funny not to. Plus it's not some guy saying Pop that or some other crap. It's actually about two women talking about the size of some guy's privates and how it's the smallest thing they've ever seen. It's still raunchy and lowest common denominator... kinda like a Howard Stern Show put to music. I love the rawness of the music but the lyrics leave me vacant. I prefer stuff that uplifts everyone and is sensual... not sexual. Although... if you want something from a female perspective check out Peaches. I saw her live with Gonzales and she is raw and nasty without being lewd. Sophisticated porn music? She only had an 808 as accompaniment. The music had that hard jacking sound and the lyrics are nasty but somehow coming from a woman it was really cool. You can find her stuff on Kitty-YO! Records @ http://www.kitty-yo.com/ Otherwise Booty Bass is just what emma said it is... would u like some sexist drivel with your bass? yes please! i had a considered mail about the whys and wherefores of bollocks bass, but i figured i needed to respond on the level of the music. all they have to do is cut the lyrics but then all those hormonal adolescent boys/men/grrls won't be interested, *sniff* *snort* *dribble* emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Derrick May club H? (was Derrick May new release)
When was the Derrick May remix of Sueno Latino's Sueno Latino originally released? It closes out the new Harry the Bastard pres. Club H vol. 2, which I should say is a fab CD/vinyl set. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] New Derrick May release? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:50:08 Patrick wrote: Has Derrick put out a new ep lately? (apart from the Jaguar mixes?) The Derrick May remixes of Deelite's 'Wildtimes' have just (last week) been re-released on 12. I've seen these listed under 'Derrick May' on a couple of lists... so maybe this is what your thinking of. I'm not sure whether this is an official re-release (my copy's in the mail), or a sly bootleg. AFAIK it's a US release (via Sonic Groove?). cheers ~Askew _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Derrick May club H? (was Derrick May new release)
Nevermind...I found the answer on Sonic Groove. 1992 if anyone was interested. From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Derrick May club H? (was Derrick May new release) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:23:30 When was the Derrick May remix of Sueno Latino's Sueno Latino originally released? It closes out the new Harry the Bastard pres. Club H vol. 2, which I should say is a fab CD/vinyl set. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] New Derrick May release? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:50:08 Patrick wrote: Has Derrick put out a new ep lately? (apart from the Jaguar mixes?) The Derrick May remixes of Deelite's 'Wildtimes' have just (last week) been re-released on 12. I've seen these listed under 'Derrick May' on a couple of lists... so maybe this is what your thinking of. I'm not sure whether this is an official re-release (my copy's in the mail), or a sly bootleg. AFAIK it's a US release (via Sonic Groove?). cheers ~Askew _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Ian O'Brien
Ian O'Brien's discog is mostly on Ferox and Peacefrog try this link...I don't think it's the most up to date (soomewhere around late '99) but it's a start. http://www.djindex.com/ianobrien/iaob_disc.html Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Ian O'Brien Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:52:38 EST the lowdown on Ian O'Brien??? discography??? thank you, Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Jazzy Detroit(ish) Techno
I will add my favorite jazzy Detroit(ish) techno: Anything on the Ferox label but these in particular- Adventures In Techno Soul - various artists (Ferox) Further Adventures In Techno Soul - same as above Ian O'Brien - Monkey Jazz (Ferox) Ian O'Brien - Gigantic Days (Peacefrog) Anything by Chris Gray (which actually crosses over into house but whose paying attention ot boundries, eh?) Ken Ishii - Circular Motion (RS) Slam Mode - Clouds (again into the house realm but this is so far gone, way out and soft as a marshmellow.) Heiko Laux Johannes Heil - No Gain No Pain (i220) Heiko Laux - No Gain No Pain (remixes) (i220) There is also stuff on the Swim~ label http://www.kleber.net/swim/swim.html that falls into this area most notably artists like Lobe, Mark Gage, and G Man (Gez Varley of LFO) Although I wouldn't really call Metroplex's 24 (Starlight) jazzy. It's more in the dub/basic channel pigeonhole. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [[313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report]]] Date: 15 Dec 00 14:30:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Model 500 mindbody R+s ... hot stuff , weird stuff but basically worthwhile J.Mills Every dog 1+2 seems to fit into the jazzy thing with little departure J.Mills Metropolis ditto Inter Zone Orch ..Programmed definate must have esp. if your into the jazzy stuff Old Fragile records touch on this as well many have been mentioning L. Naverre..St.Germain //Rose Rouge check it if havent yet and of course keep digging in repects to Juan @tkins/Model 500 *note admittedly for the sake of e-notes here's some quality art as music I would refer an indivdiual to esp. if they didnt mention these in their org. question P.s. Miles Davis kinda blue.. How about you Nate? Got anything Positive to add? Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Mr Wv, You seem to be a big fan of weather report... Surely then you can offer up some suggestions. On 15 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WAit is something wrong here Someone is actually posting something about music.. even quality music ...shouldn't this all about Drama and unconfirmed party angst and more drama and gossip about who's moving where because EVERYBODY is at 'x' .. Danny Wolfers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people of the world, I am looking for some tips on jazzy deep detroit records. Stuff like Model 500's deep space, metroplex 24 (especially m024..which is still unbelievably deep) also I heard that this stuff is influenced by laxating jazz bands like weather report, does anyone know which albums or other bands would be worth checking out which are in that m500 sphere of influence? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Publications
Uhm, the Rough Guide to Techno and the Rough Guide to House aren't bad. The problem with any publication (in book form) is that it takes __at least__ a year to get it out to the public and we all know how fast these genres evolve. So you may pick up a book and find that the latest ground breaking artist isn't there or find that big beat is going to be the saviour of dance music. Fred P.S. There are far more books on the scene than there are about the music. Techno and house just doesn't lend itself to writing about the personalities and anecdotes like rockn'roll or jazz do. This is what fills pages and techno and house jusst don't have them (yet). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Publications Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:52:04 EST hi, can anyone recommend the best house publications of all time??? I read in Toop's Ocean of Sound that he did an underground thing for a while in the 80's??? Or techno publications thanx Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Publications
If you are talking magazine/rag style publication for techno I have heard that Magic Feet was pretty damn good when it was around. I don't know if House music ever had an equivalent or if anyone ever really cared to make something. House music never seemed to be as trainspotter-ish. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Publications Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:52:04 EST hi, can anyone recommend the best house publications of all time??? I read in Toop's Ocean of Sound that he did an underground thing for a while in the 80's??? Or techno publications thanx Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
deep space music
Hey thanks to all those who contributed their ideas on this topic... I'm discovering some seriously deep and soulful stuff. Track Mode is the sh*t! Cheers Fred _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Rhythms and begats
Re: Look at Blues...it begat Bluegrass, ...and then it begat blueberries, right? Blues has little to do with bluegrass. The former is based in African folk traditions, the latter AFAIK in largely Irish traditions relocated to the American south (with the noted addition of the African Banjo). You can't really say that Bluegrass is derived _directly_ from the Blues but it did influence it as much as Gospel and regional (European descendant) Folk music did. Read on for more info on Bill Monroe who was the creator of Bluegrass music. http://music.lycos.com/default.asp?DA=0QW=Bill+MonroeAID=18536MID=19357P=B Bluegrass was created (?) by Bill Monroe (William Smith Monroe, b. 13 September 1911, on a farm near Rosine, Ohio County, Kentucky, USA, d. 9 September 1996, Springfield, Tennessee, USA) Monroe also played with a black blues musician, Arnold Schultz, who was to become a major influence on his future music. and hey! look! a Detroit connection: elder brothers Harry and Birch ...headed north, working for a time in the car industry in Detroit, before moving to Whiting and East Chicago, Indiana, where they were employed in the oil refineries. appearing as the Monroe Brothers...They became a very popular act and sang mainly traditional material, often with a blues influence. During the early 40s, Monroe's band was similar to other string bands such as Mainer's Mountaineers, but by the middle of the decade, the leading influence of Monroe's driving mandolin and his high (some would say shrill) tenor singing became the dominant factor, and set the Blue Grass Boys of Bill Monroe apart from the other bands. This period gave birth to a new genre of music, and led to Monroe becoming affectionately known as the Father of Bluegrass Music. Rock n' Roll...then you have Jazz to Raggae, etc. You're missing a couple key ingredients here: Swing+Motown=Ska Ska begat Reggae once equipment got cheaper, and Jamaican cops came down on the clubs (sound familiar?). Where are you getting your music history from? Try this: Reggae is a music unique to Jamaica, but it ironically has its roots in New Orleans RB. Reggae's direct forefather is ska, an uptempo, rhythmic variation based on the New Orleans RB that Jamaican musicians heard as broadcasted from the US on their transistor radios. Relying on skittering guitar and syncopated rhythms, ska was their interpretation of RB and it was quite popular in the early '60s. However, during one very hot summer, it was too hot to either play or dance to ska, so the beat was slowed down and reggae was born. http://www.bobartsinstitute.edu/Reggae.htm And Western cultures are not completely without rhythm. The drum is core to almost all traditions. Celtic, Native American, etc. Yes, that is true but it's largely not syncopated rhythm like that of Latin or African countries. Otherwise known as the Funky drummer. Why all this struggle to compartmentalize? It's a glorious soup. Enjoy it for that. That's true...although it's good to know what the ingrediants are that make it so damn tasty! :) What the hell was this thread originally about anyway? Fred _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] err...
Jim (and everyone else) That's the most important and poignent question I've seen asked during this entire thread... What does happen now? Business as usual? by the way...the more I see that commercial the more I dislike it. visually it's not the most stunning and the music doesn't really fit the image. Everything is too stiff for such funky music...if those robots heard the music they would move differently...I'm thinking more like the legs and torsos in Rockit by H. Hancock. Ford just doesn't have the Funk! ;) Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deliverator) To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] err... Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:56:16 -0500 Fred- Are you buying it? I got in a rather lengthy discussion over a few beers this past weekend on this topic. Admittedly, I have more than just a slight buzz going at the time but..After about an hour or so discussing the ford focus commerical I came to the following conclusion: 1.)Hooray for Juan, the man has skills and talent. He deserves recognition. 2.)This is a sad day for Detroit Techno. Whether we like it or not, it's been co-opted. I will always love this music, it's a part of my blood. I'm just left with a lingering question: What now? out jim http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra http://www.assasins.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] no sense...but not unexpected
Re: There's got to be some explanation for all this. Other than what was mentioned here before about the possibly of some marketing guy from Ford dug techno; I highly doubt it was anyone at Ford who originaly thought up this concept...the advertising agency that Ford contracted is responsible for that, not Ford Motor Company. The ad agency saw a link between FordDetroitTechno and they then came up with a concept for the ad and then presented it to the marketing people at Ford in what is commonly called a pitch. The techno guy was most likely at the ad agecny, not Ford Motors. As far as writing to ABC about this poll... Does anyone think that they are going to redo the website with Jeff Mills, Oliver Ho, and Dave Clarke as choices? I can just imagine if they did most tossers looking at those choices would screw up their faces in absolute confusion as to who the hell their choices were. Does anyone on 313 think about going to the ABC website, of all places, to answer a poll on your favorite techno artist? Does this poll matter really? Is it going to change how techno music is going to sound? Fer chris'sake they just use the word techno because it's a catch-all. If they used the word 'house' nobody would know what the hell they were talking about...favorite house band? you mean like the dudes who play those Skynard covers down at Joe's Bar and Grill? Yeah, I was upset for a moment about thisfor a moment. It's the same as with jazz music. Most people think that Brian Setzer and his Orchestra and clones are really swing jazz. They aren't even close. Do I care? Does it degrade the swing jazz I listen to? No friggin way it does! I know Setzer can't even touch the dirt that Ellington and others walked on. Write in to ABC if you want but I think your time and energy could be better spent other ways. Fred _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] err...
I think that was a Honda comercial that had the raver types but anyone breathing today would have to be either blind and deaf, a media hermit, or clueless to have not been exposed to images of ravers or electronic dance music of one genre or another being used in whatever media format. So it's not even a question of putting anything together to get the Ford Focus commercial. Any marketing department that doesn't include rave culture (as they call it) in their campaigns is going to lose out. They know it, we know it. The big question is: Are you buying it? Fred PS The next wave will most likely be throw-backs to the 80's. I ain't joking. When Ford first started airing the Ford ads late 1999 they showed the small hatchback model pulling into a parking garage. A group of raver types are sitting in the car, the car being squished between two cars parked too close. So they pop the hatch and clumb out the back, all the while a house track is playing in the background. So it could be the marketing people put two and 2.5 together a while ago. And with Ford's current ad campaign theme, it's no surprise either that they decide to sponsor such an award, even though they know it's not the real techno. In any case, it's the closest thing at the AMA they have for reaching the intended target audience. Assuming they show the ad during the awards, it will certainly make people wonder what Detroit Techno is. Then it's up to 'us' show them what it all is about (and not flame polite-but-ignorant newbies like what happened to that raver kid a few weeks ago!). Is the ad I'm referring to the one y'all are talking about? Steven White steve at barking cat dot org aytch tee tee pea colon slash slash barking cat dot org slash - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] err...
Re: FORD COULD CARE LESS ABOUT TECHNO! THEY JUST WANT TO SELL CARS! that's the bottom line. AMEN BROTHER! Please believe that everyone! Don't think that they are friendly to techno music anymore than they are friendly to countrywestern New Age music. What they are most friendly to is a guy named George Washington. Well, George and Shell Oil. Check these sites for info on how Ford has felt towards others: http://www.kwaku.org/bh/ford/boycott_ford_motor_company.htm http://www.millennium-debate.org/ind21july.htm http://detnews.com/menu/stories/45459.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm And let's not forget the ongoing battle about the tire recall... if they thought there was a big enough market for Midget Transsexual Racecar Drivers they would exploit that. Oh I wish they would...then I might buy one of their crappy cars. it's all about appealing to a mass of people and then moving in for the kill, it has about as much to do with techno as the AMA has to do with music :) Wha? You mean that the AMA isn't about quality but quantity? Oh man! My whole outlook on life is totally trashed now! What can I believe in anymore? The only award I think most techno artists would accept would be one voted on by their fans. Maybe an award ceremony at the next DEMF? Fred _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Robert Owens track
The Layo Bushwacka! track with Robert Owens is called Low Life and the only other work that I know Mr. Owens has done with L B or the End recordings was A Thing Called Love with Mr.C What did the track sound like? Deep house like his usual stuff or kinda breakbeat-y like Bushwacka! ? From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Robert Owens track Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:53:13 +0100 With Mr Bushwacka ??? witch is fairly new just a gues - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: [313] Robert Owens track Looking to use the infinite wisdom of this list, has anyone ever heard or even better got a track by R. Owens called your mind/underwater, heard a cdr mix last nite and this was the standout track, enquired what it was, and was told Robert Owens, but never heard of it myself. thanks for any help jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] trading on napster
Where is the skill? Fred From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aziza vasco [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:30:09 -0800 h, here's an issue I was talking about today with some friends... There is now a program out that will mix MP3's for you, you can see the wave so you can do visual mixing, and it beat matches for you... to prove the impact to me, he found a site that has all the latest tracks out of the UK scene in MP3 form for free, down loaded all the latest Hooj Chunes (not my personal choice you know, but what could I do??!!), and within 30 minutes, had a slammin' mix CD burned, all made of brand new tracks... no tables, no records, nothing, and the thing is, the CD was well composed,, and sounded great... any take on this? BTW, the program is at www.mixmiester.com darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: aziza vasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster don't worry im going to pay a lot of money for my music 'cuz im going to buy decks and so many many vinyls but till this moment i go on ripping music on napster...have you got any problem about that? From: Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:54:37 +0100 Why don't you pay for the music instead of ripping artists and labels off ! : janos :)) On Wednesday 29 November 2000 15:35, aziza vasco wrote: hi list! i would like to know if there is someone who has good detroit songs to trade on napster..i have many but i want more 'cuz i use to play them with my comp.thank you in advance! aziza :o) ___ __ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing
I do think it will be a while before anyone is able to do the tricks ala Claude Young, DJ Craze, Kid Koala, Scratch Pickles, Cox, any other turntablist. Digital still doesn't have that sound that vinyl has. It's hard to fake it. When anyone starts talking about a well worn format going away I really have to doubt it. Vinyl will never go away 100%. People will want to produce on it because of the tangability of it, the collectable factor (mp3s will never fetch the amount of money some vinyl does), and the warm analogue sound. Fred From: Chris Ege [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:25:39 -0600 (CST) I don't stick with it for sentimental reasons, its the simplicity that attracts me... whose to say a simpler, more intuitive interface can't be created? Oh, and your record will never crash, or you needle with never have an irq conflict... your records can warp, your needles can break. There are problems with every medium. Imagine if there was a good digital solution! You wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars on a lathe and $30 for a blank acetate that wears out after 20 plays. The point that everyone's missing is that a better solution can be devised. True, vinyl is still the best solution. But we're quickly approaching a point where it won't be anymore. it won't be long till someone comes up with a truly elegant and intuitive interface for mixing digitally. Pretending it won't happen is silly. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] stuff
Perlon and Playhouse can be found here http://www.mad-net.de/ Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Duke) Reply-To: Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: c CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] stuff Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:32:20 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ppl scuse for being an uninformed dag like bc / main st / luomo...what is perlon / playhouse? Perlon and Playhouse are German labels. Hope this helps. Andrew Duke :) ta p-d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix 3rd annual Fundraising Auction for CKDU is now underway: http://techno.ca/cognition auction ends Wednesday November 29 at 12noon AST - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Technarchitecture
go to http://www.caipirinha.com/index1.html check out the ARCHITETTURA section and the CDs/video. Not much is gained by them but they at least make a good attempt at connecting the parts. Cheers Fred From: Elliot Taub [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Counterforce - Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Technarchitecture Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:12:30 -0800 I have a degree in Architecture, practiced as an architect for a few years, and make techno. I can tell you there is no connection whatsoever, other than superficial comparisons of musical meter to architectural structure. Music is the only truly abstract artform, and architecture is entirely concrete (no pun intended). That's what I think, at least. e Counterforce - Lay wrote: Haye! Lately I've been noticing some paralels between Techno music and architecture. Since this awareness has started a while ago, I've been also noticing that there are quite a few people in electronic music who have architecture backgrounds. Are any techno related works on architecture? Or architecture-related techno works? :-) If someone wants to drop a line on the subject, I'm all ears :-) Lay Unconditional Empowerment http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- S C A T A L O G I C S www.scatalogics.com Graphic Design Party Promotion Disc Jockeys 718-204-8434 646-752-6262 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] drumcode, utility plastics
Check the archives of 313 for the info on Utility Plastics. There was a long thread about Utility and User records. dk is most likely Dahlback and Krome. Jasper Dahlback and Thomas Krome. They ususally go by dk (in lower case letters like that) when they produce together. Thomas Krome also runs the fabulous Corb label. Jasper Dahlback usually does deep jazz house, real light night stuff, on Svek when he's off on his own. Together they also run dk records...check out the Stjartlapp website on all things Sveedish. http://emil.techno.org/ The original is titled Remainings III which was a Adam Beyer production if I'm not mistaken (I do think he had Remainings I and II previously). Beyer does run Drumcode so I can say that with 99% certainty. Cheers Fred From: Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] drumcode, utility plastics Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:38:18 -0500 (EST) i was wondering who is behind the production on utility plastics. also i just picked up drumcode 20.5 (really good) and all it says on the label is 'remixed by dk.' who originally produced it, and who is dk? kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. Fred From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:38:16 -0500 I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Finally, I saw the commercial spot last night on VH1 and checked the Ford Motor company site today (www.ford.com) checking for two things: a Quicktime video of the commercial (most companies will have this on their pages after airing a new broadcast advert) and some kind of acknowledgement of the track being used (like VW did with Nick Drake's Pink Moon). I found neither. While I thought the tv spot was good and the music editing was very good, I was really disappointed not to see anything about either the music or the ad on Ford's website...did anyone else check their website for these things? On the Focus 247 page there is a catagory for music (it's kind of a lifestyle section to go with the car). What's on it? Friggin' Garth Brooks! Obviously, the commercial doesn't signal a huge revolutionary change in direction for Ford. It's a tv spot that will air for a while then disappear quietly. That's it...then it's back to trainspotting and next gigs here on 313. So I don't think we should get our undies in a bunch and wonder if this means the end of good techno and the corporate mind control machine taking over. For the time we should be happy that Mr. Atkins is gettin' some green. Fred From: JL Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:13:12 -0500 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS (or whatever) Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ??? That kind of mass recognition is long past due for the Godfather of Techno. And isn't it the POINT that you're gratified by knowing it's Juan's track underneath the commercial and the masses don't ? Would you be more happy if they were using a Crystal Method or Fatboy Slim or Moby track like they do everything else? Dang, let the man have his due, for God's sakes. I also saw this commercial last night and the subsequent list discussion today. It seems to me that Ford was saying two things... An acknowledgement of the forward thinking and innovative aspect related to Detroit Techno - the music AND Ford's own attempt to impress that they're trying to innovate with their offerings (in particular the Focus) with their own Detroit Techno(logy) within the automotive realm. The music isn't doesn't have sole possession of the term Detroit Techno(logy) seeing as cars have been built there for the longest time.. think of it this way too.. Before the electronics and computer companies of Silicon Valley identified that region as a technological center in the US Detroit with its automotive industry was able to say that long before this current age I think they were giving props to both the music and their own products... in some way... I guess I think too much, and hope for the best.. P.S. - I agree with glyph's statement wholeheartedly too.. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- amiga lives! -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
Personally, I think that the music is more Audi TT than Ford Focus... Don't make this a side thread please. Fred So forth and so on My take- I personally have just recently purchased a ZX2 after considering the Focus, but my wife decided that the focus was ugly. If they had started this campaign earlier, Ford would have sold one more Focus... Cheers, Dennis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Groovetech website
Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it and all these stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today when the old site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to find it. Terrible. Check it out and let me know what you think... https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I just dropped Groovetech a line about the site. I hope they get it straightened out because I loved their old site, but I will go to another online shop to buy records. Let's hope they get this fixed before DEMF 2001! Fred From: John W Fisher II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:53:31 -0500 I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Groovetech website
The log in thing is a waste of time for the user. They must be trying to track how often each person logs in vs. how often they purchase. I did get an automatic response back from them and I'm sitting on the edge of my seat in expectation of a real answer to my email I sent them. I'll post it to 313 as soon as I get it. Fred If it ain't broke...take it apart, lose a couple of pieces and then it will be From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:10:24 -0800 yep, that REALLY sucks. i have a dsl connection and it's still virtually unusable. this thing is a design catastrophe, unless you only plan on using it for wallpaper. and requiring people to log in order to do anything is a major mistake. At 4:00 AM + 11/9/00, FRED MCMURRY wrote: I just dropped Groovetech a line about the site. I hope they get it straightened out because I loved their old site, but I will go to another online shop to buy records. Let's hope they get this fixed before DEMF 2001! Fred From: John W Fisher II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:53:31 -0500 I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500 ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
lol however, I was thinking more like a CD single...but vinyl would be hilarious. Fred From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST) I think the expression on my dad's or insert another conservative car-buyer face if the Ford dealership handed him her a piece of vinyl with a shiny new auto. uhh.. what the hell's this?... Well, let's just say it's much better than the music you hear on Dodge commercials during Tigers' games :) n8 On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote: Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500 ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Diehard Technoheads
They are one in the same...don't cut up the tree. Fred From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Diehard Technoheads Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
I'm really confused about this We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts? Please Fred I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but 'Jaguar' debuted at number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower than I personally expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why? Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had something to do with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went back to Oct 9th) Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't adequate. For example, it was handled in the UK by a company called Sainted PR, who, whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc. My man Jonas Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years back, and does all the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently Sainted got it as a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up. Mind you, there have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of music mags her, so... Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da Bass 'Doom's Night' was also released last week and that has entered the chart at about number 6. The difference is that they have a massive promotional campaign behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with flyposters, just as it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'. Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's unlikely ot go much higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these days like they used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards. Tom MF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Detroit Techno in England
I'd be more than happy to shell out $20 - 30 to see some of the Midwest talent that never plays in the Midwest(!) Fred From: Oul Shakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Detroit Techno in England Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:29:44 GMT The Current Amount of detroit/chicago techno dj's being booked to play in england is shocking. its a very sad state of affairs and it needs to be addressed, apart from stacy pullen at the plus 8 classics night at the end on 4th nov and Suburban Knight at lost a couple of months ago the bookings have dried up is the detroit sound redundant in england now, or can it resurface? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Thule
Icelands' best techno record label Catalog no: thl003 Artist: Biogen Release Name: Stream Tracks: Stream Psychic function Stream (sanasol lake mix) Writer: Sigurbjorn Thorgrinsson Check them out http://www.oz.is/thulemusik/ Fred From: Ted Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: day-twa 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Thule Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Who are these people? I have thule-003 but it's a white label so I have no idea who it's by. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] hard house alanis style
Check this Angel set out... http://www.bassdrop.com/angel/angel.ram bottom of page Fred From: Matthew L. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] hard house alanis style Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:32:34 -0500 It's been at least a year or two since I've heard or seen any hard house from Angel Alanis. Most of his recent releases have been underground dub house tracks, I'd venture to say that's the niche he's busy carving his name into for now. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com speaking of hardhousehas angel alanis put out any good hard house lately? i guess its not 313 related but uhhit is midwest ;) -v - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Green Velvet/Cajmere
I was talking to someone about Green Velvet in Chicago but I trashed the thread...so I'm posting this on 313 because I'm sure some of you will be interested (and hopefully get this message to the person I was talking to...sorry I forgot your name), check down on October 19th: From: PURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PURELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:55:28 -0500 Subject: PURE EXRA EXTRA Hey PURE People, Here are just a couple of reminders and other things we missed in our latest newsletter... Thursday Sept.28.00 at COMMUNITY ...COMMUNITY Thursdays are the best bet (at Crobar): Every week is stocked with a top-name international DJ, from Paul van Dyk and Ken Ishii to Richie Hawtin and Green Velvet. Spin Magazine November 2000 Thursday Oct.05.00 PURE presents People, Music, Culture. COMMUNITY There will be a special COMMUNITY 1.0 - John Curley Mix CD release party in the Mezzanine hosted by PURE and UR Chicago Magazine. Free drinks (10-11:30) and Free CDs. RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to attend. Ears To The East Featuring DJs: Ken Ishii / Tokyo John Curley / PURE Chicago DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago Bear Who? / PURE Chicago Hosted by Devo 9PM - 4AM 21 + Crobar the nightclub 1543 N. Kingsbury, Chicago, 312.413.7000 www.crobarnightclub.com PURE 2000 cardholders (+1) and guestlist persons get in FREE to COMMUNITY all night. To get on the guestlist for COMMUNITY either call or e-mail before 7PM the day of the event with your full name and number of guests (four total - that means you +3) to: 312.409.PURE or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please specify COMMUNITY Thursday October 5th when replying. Saturday Oct.07.00 PURE presents LIFT The Sound of Saturday Night Featuring DJs Adam Beyer / Drumcode Records, Stockholm Sweden Chad Sommer / PURE Ernie Vega / 212 Productions, Aurora Bear Who? (Upstairs) / PURE 10PM - 5AM 21 + $15 general admission RedNoFive 440 N. Halsted (at Halsted and Hubbard) Chicago 312.733.6699 PURE 2000 cardholders only get in to LIFT for $5 all night. Guestlist persons get in to LIFT for $5 before Midnight and are $10.00 after. To get on the guestlist for LIFT either call or e-mail before 7PM the day of the event with your full name and number of guests (four total - that means you +3) to: 312.409.PURE or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please specify LIFT Saturday October 08th when replying. PURE DJ NEWS: John Curley will be opening for Moby and Hybrid this Friday October 6th at the Aragon Ballroom. Chad Sommer will playing along with Adam Beyer this Saturday Oct.07.00 at LIFT. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get on the guestlist. John Curley and Chad Sommer will be playing this Sunday Oct.08.00 at Dragon Room ( 809 w. Evergreen, Chicago, 312-751-2900). E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get on the guestlist. (Please specify the event you would like to attend when e-mailing guestlist requests) Upcoming Events at COMMUNITY - October Thursday Oct.12.00 Bedrock USA Featuring: Jimmy Van M / Twilo NYC John Curley / PURE Chicago DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago Bear Who? / PURE Chicago Thursday Oct.19.00 Alice's Wicked Wonderland Tour Featuring: Green Velvet (LIVE) DJ Cajmere (Techno Set) / Chicago John Curley / PURE Chicago DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago Bear Who? / PURE Chicago Thursday Oct.26.00 Plus 8 Classics Tour Featuring: Richie Hawtin / Windsor John Acquaviva/ Balance John Curley / PURE Chicago DJ Dayhota / SuperJane Chicago Bear Who? / PURE Chicago Upcoming Events at LIFT - October Saturday Oct.14.00 LIFT Featuring DJs: Charles Little / PURE Chad Sommer / PURE Chris Walsh / PURE Saturday Oct.21.00 LIFT Featuring DJs John Debo / Axis, Boston Chad Sommer / PURE Chris Walsh / PURE www.purefuture.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Tone shifting
Re: It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding your head to th tribal sounds of a washing machine. I used to work at a Kinko's and I found that environment was a rich source of metal on metal beats. Folding machines, multiple large Xerox machines churning out copies wich big ka-chung sounds, the hum of computers, staple machines, the high pitch zip sound of color copiers it was the only redeeming character of that place. I made several poor quality tapes of the sounds for future use. Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Chicago weekend
Anyone in Chicago know of good things happening this weekend (Friday or Saturday)? I saw that Adam Beyer is playing, as well as Miguel Migs (leaning more toward that since I've seen Beyer already). Also, I would like to find out about more underground house events/clubs in the city. I saw the Prop House...looks good. Anyone been there before? Please reply in private since this isn't strictly 313 related. Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] techno David Hasselhoff albums...
Re: Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;) It didn't make the AMG list but I do happen to have a really rockin' electro piss-take of the Knight Rider theme tune along with three other Knight Rider related tunes with KITT in the title...the single is acutally called Michael Knight and it has some hip-house style rapping... I couldn't pass it up! Fred From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 06:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David Hasselhoff albums... http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B142889 Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;) Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
Re: Just look at labels like Transmat, Planet E, Underground Resistance, Axis, Pure Sonik, Minus, Red Planet, Direct Beat, 430 West, Purpose Maker etc. There are a good 4 or 5 differnt styles of Electronic Music right there, but due to the fact that they are all made in Detroit, we just call them all techno. Don't bother reading the newest (?) issue of Mixmag...the issue about dance music in the US (cover has a woman with the Stars and Stripes painted over her mug). The only label to get in their list of biggest US labels was Planet E. I supposed, though, going up against Moonshine, Ultra, OM, Kinetic, etc. they are counting overall sales. It was embarrasing/exhasperating to read the article. Typical of the big press though, US or UK. Fred From: christos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] who stole the soul? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:39:44 -0400 (EDT) The reason people are not coming to the club anymore is because detroit is not making music that is so vibrant and irresistible that people feel they need to be at our gigs. Detroit needs to go back to Deep Space and bring something back that is so out there that people will go nuts for it. I dont know, i have to disagree. Everytime I start thinking that Detroit Techno has become monotonous, and following the same old patterns, I see something, or hear something that totally reminds me why I am proud to be a Detroiter. For example, the first time I heard jaguar, the first time I saw T-1000 spin, the first time I heard Red Planet, the first time I heard Changes of Life, Kevin Sandurson's last set at Motor- I was moved and inspired on different levels each time. I knew Detroit had not only the rich musical History, but has the abilty to progress, and make music that can not only be appreciated by Ekko Thugs, and Kandi Kids, but by Detroits own Techno elitists. Also keep in mind that there are hunderds of thousands of kids in the Detroit are and millions across the world who know nothing about our music, and once they are exposed to it, are completely changed. To some of us, this old school sound is still completly new, and we cant get enough of it. One of the reasons why I am so into the music here though is its great diversity. Just look at labels like Transmat, Planet E, Underground Resistance, Axis, Pure Sonik, Minus, Red Planet, Direct Beat, 430 West, Purpose Maker etc. There are a good 4 or 5 differnt styles of Electronic Music right there, but due to the fact that they are all made in Detroit, we just call them all techno. Our music is always evolving and constantly changing yet still keeping that soul, that funk that this town was built on. Sorry if this comes off as too cheesey, but this is a debate I constanty get in with trance and house fans, so its easy for me to just rant. -christos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Moby
oh sh*tno pleaseI try to get out but they keep pulling me back in! All I have to say is this (directly quoted from page 109 of the Oct 2nd Time magazine): A SOUL TO KEEP by Julie Rawe What's an eternal soul fetching these days? The one belonging to electronica artist MOBY went for a paltry $41 when it was auctioned last week on eBay by a former longtime friend. Indie-film director Paul Yates claims Moby has been selling out: all 18 songs on his platinum album, PLAY, have been licensed for use in commercials and TV shows ranging from Nissan ads to Dawson's Creek. Yates also alleges that Moby is trying to doctor his image: the musician is now distancing himself from Yates' upcoming comedy, PORNO, which includes a scene of Moby playing guitar with two sex toys strapped to his head. As executive producer, Moby no longer agrees with the film creatively, his manager says. And if the film never makes it to theaters, perhaps copies will pop up on eBay. Fred From: J. S. Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Moby Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:12:42 -0400 Just thought this was an interesting piece of news I received about everyone's favorite artist. Courtesy of Sideline news. Moby phones home Mute succes Moby is to work together with John Williams, who composed the soundtracks for toppers as ET and its predecessor Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. Moby and John will be composing the music for a brand new computer game. The duo will also be writing the score for the cartoon Astro Knights, an animated series about aliens that live on the moon. Moby, 28, will also be writing a special dance-track for an Astro Knights character, the space pirate Bertha Budd. That dance-track will most probably be issued as a single. Moby meets the king of orchestral pop music. Should be wonderful, really. Josh Landau phase 10, the grind WCBN-FM 88.3 FM, Ann Arbor www.wcbn.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] shameless plug, (was Absract Fusion 2 comp.)
W! Chicago this weekend! I'm adding it to my shopping list. Fred From: Nathan DeYonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED],'*** ASKEW' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] shameless plug, (was Absract Fusion 2 comp.) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:00:05 -0400 Glory be! track listing and audio clips of this are up. http://www.deep4life.com/deeper.html :) n8 --On Friday, September 29, 2000 1:38 PM +0800 Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep an eye out for the next Deep4Life compilation named Deep South Experience which will feature Ewan and also Justin Zerbst and another local lad whom I can't recall at the moment. Will undoubtably be top class stuff, as always from D4L. Respect JasonB Make sure you check out the talent of Ewan Jansen, Odara and the Red Ember crew (straight outta Perth). These guys are producing some damn fine house music... keep your eyes peeled for more vinyl releases in the near future. Damn* Ewan... 'Busted' wasn't on the demo you sent me! You holding out on me? :) And what's the scoop on Odara? cheers ~Askew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Nick Well go as far to say it's close to trance... How so? Everything is three steps off from one style or the other. I know Julesy was playing The Mole a few months back... Lots of UK trance dj's play that kinda stuff... And they are also banging out Jaguar...guilt by association? The UK trance DJs are playing these tracks in their sets because the trance stuff coming out now has run it's course and people are looking for something with more guts. It's not that this music is closer to trance (albeit, some early Hybrid tracks approached it back in '95 but so did loads of techno) it's just that the DJs ears are looking for something with more than just a bunch of drum rolls. Just because Jules plays The Mole doesn't make it trance. Hell, if he started dropping Inner City Good Life would that make it trance as well? Fred From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Well go as far to say it's close to trance... I know Julesy was playing The Mole a few months back... Lots of UK trance dj's play that kinda stuff... Gimme the Detroit Escalator Co anyday... Dj Pacific:) --- Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something just a stop short or it. d From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:16:58 EDT What's the best place to start for Swedish Techno. A few CD's please. thanks mediadrome - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Still looking for track ID
Thanks to those who helped id the Stereo People sample... I'm still looking for any info on these items: I'm looking for IDs on two seperate tracks from D Wynn's set at DEMF @ the Motor stage 1. 1st part @ 29:29 has female vocals, guitar and Spanish style trumpets 2. 2nd part @ 18:35 but may actually start further back, has beautiful flutes and piano and D Wynn is really having fun with this one. Amazing house tune Second... Any rumours out there about DEMF in 2001? Cheers Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
D Wynn track ID and DEMF
First... I'm looking for IDs on two seperate tracks from D Wynn's set at DEMF @ the Motor stage 1. 1st part @ 29:29 has female vocals, guitar and Spanish style trumpets 2. 2nd part @ 18:35 but may actually start further back, has beautiful flutes and piano and D Wynn is really having fun with this one. Amazing house tune Second... Any rumours out there about DEMF in 2001? Also, not D related but looking for original source of sample used by Stereo People on Tweekin records for their self titled tune that goes All I want is my stereo. The sample sounds like it's from a dancehall tune and I think I heard it once and I can't remember from where. Thanks for the help and sorry about all that Moby crap. Why I let myself get caught up in those arguments I'll never know. :) Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I must agree with Cyclone on this one. Moby is the pop poster boy of techno. He's insanely jealous of the Detroit artists (it was evident when I talked to him about it) and that whole punk rock record he made was a complete mistake. His agent told him to get back into dance music because it was what people liked so he did it otherwise he might still be trying to be punk. He even said at one time, though he won't admit it (and I tried to get him to come clean about it), that he _left_ dance music because it was boring and all the wrong people were getting attention (at the time it was Aphex Twin) and that intelligent techno was getting all the attention and he thought it didn't deserve it. His attempt at making emotional music is pretty blatent minor key classical rip-offs. Go was interesting but not ground-breaking. The one track with, what was it, 1000 bpms? Wow, really stretching it there (sarcasim). The music sounds nice at times but I really think he follows what will put him in the spotlight and then wrapping himslef in a cloak of mystery and the little loser act to get sympathy (like that other wanker Morrisey). Which he isn't, he's one rich mutherf*cker. To compare his work to St. Germain is an insult to St. Germain and music with guts. I've seen him live several times and had the chance to see him rehearse his act before the actual live show. I saw and heard absolutely no improvisation or real heart and soul displayed...very choreographed. Even his jams on the bongos were worked out before hand. After talking with him and doing extensive background research on him I really do feel that he would be doing something else if dance music wasn't paying his bills. Fred From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:24:38 +1000 I also agree with Gwendal, Moby's last album Play is very enlightening, not unlike Garnier's last one, it plays with a whole range of electronic styles, and reminds me of some early St. Germain. I just don't get the Moby is a pioneer argument myself. You know the story of that album, don't you? Moby went out to his local chain store bought two CDs of old blues/gospel samples and thought aha and viola. You could do it. Even Puffy is more original as at least he devised an aesthetic (hip-hop soul) and didn't just sample. And as for Moby's live shows, well. Now Garnier, there IS a genius. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] MUSIC (was: how do record boxes get stolen?)
RE: G. Flame and Mr. G on Moods Grooves, What I wanna know is what's the story with these two and this label, seems to be 1) a lot of releases 2) the releases seem to be al variations of each other. I love 'em, but has anyone noticed these two things? Ys, I do believe you are thinking the same thing I have been. Each time I see a new one I think 'Cool, a new G Flame and Mr. G track, then I listen to it and say 'Naw, it 's the samle old thing just the pattern has been shifted a bit.' I bought one and haven't dropped a penny on any others. Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] politics, economics, and djs
Re: how can dj's prevent shake-like events from happening in the future? Campaign and vote for politicians who support federally provided health care. That's a good way of starting. Maybe hold events that are in support of public health care and fund raising events to support groups that are working toward that goal. Fred From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] politics, economics, and djs Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:52:54 -0400 (EDT) sometime ago, an email was forwarded to us about shake, and about a benefit being given in his honor. the text of this email got me to thinking about politics, economics, and djs. instead of simply talking about the way things ARE--djs, though paid in some instances are woefully undercovered as far as insurance goes--i'm interested in talking about the way things could be, and how to get there. so here goeshow can dj's prevent shake-like events from happening in the future? peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN
So...does anyone know how these two got started on this bitter and fruitless rivalry thing? Who said what first? My bets are on Clarke 'cuz he's such a protagonist but Hawtin isn't a saint either. Fred From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'darw_n' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:03:31 -0700 i find that to be amusing...god i love the arrogence of techno jeff -Original Message- From: darw_n [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:09 PM To:313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN Forwarded: i don't know if anyone has posted this yet, or if this is old drama but here goes From World Pop.Com Two of dance music's leading techno DJs were involved in a fierce battle behind the turntables at the Creamfields festival yesterday. Dave Clarke and Richie Hawtin, who for many years have attacked each other in the press, found themselves coming to blows over Clarke's remix of Ibiza anthem, Zombie Nation. Clarke closed his set by playing his remake of the track twice, winding up Hawtin who despises the record. Hawtin then approached Clarke and stuck his middle finger up to his face and a heated exchange of words ensued. Hawtin then took to the turntables, stopped Clarke's remix mid-flow, picked up the record and threw it across the Bugged Out arena. Clarke, visibly stunned by Hawtin's behaviour, simply lifted up his box of records and left the festival - s t r a y d j www.713tekno.net _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the phrase 'unsubscribe txraves' in the body of the message. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN
Nor do clocks don't ask me what that means. Fred From: John D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:31:01 +0800 Proves that North Americans don't take to winding up too well :) JOhn i find that to be amusing...god i love the arrogence of techno jeff Clarke closed his set by playing his remake of the track twice, winding up Hawtin who despises the record. Hawtin then... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] nordelius ressle
I wouldn't be surprised. Alexi Delano (A.D.N.Y.) once used an crushed empty aluminum soda can in a breakdown. Kinda like he had it stuck on his foot and kept stepping on it. It's on the Something For The Souls ep on Plastic City. Check it out. Fred From: Joshua M. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] nordelius ressle Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:06:36 -0400 this posting was spawned by two things. two weeks ago at motor in detroit, pullen spun beau mot plage by isolee. i loved it, even though he faded out the treble. so i went home and discussed it with my twin brother. we both have the track on one of dahlbäck's mixes. we both speak swedish, and even though i consider detroit techno my forte, i love swedish house. has anyone listened to the jesper dahlbäck cd from the stockholm mix sessions? i just have a question about an 'instrument'. if you listen to the first track with us around by nordelius ressle, there is a strange squeaky sound. my brother said that he realized what the sound was while sitting in a taco bell one day. does anyone think (or know) that this is a straw being pulled in and out of a fast food cup? it really sounds like it, quite humorous. cheers. -- Joshua Hill / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / icq: 3045997 www.hillhaus.com / www.ai-studio.com University of Michigan - Philosophy -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] OUTRAGE! When action????
What ifthe sample was used in a_techno_tune that everyone here thought was really cool (not some cheesy trance track), BUT the artist still didn't get it cleared from UR? Let's say it came out on a white label. How would you feel about it...would you still try to get it? Be honest. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Walley [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] OUTRAGE! When action Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:09:02 +0100 Its not just the monetary value of the UR sample they illegally used, its the fact that this is the second time the majors have tried to screw UR over. There should never have been a first time. And not just because its UR - this could be any label we enjoy talking about on this list. what about artists and labels we enjoy talking about on this list who have used illegaly samples from other artists, sometimes artists signed on majors ? :) just have a look to http://www.forcefield.org/guide.html cheers disk.system - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] dj DIZ
I wonder if people who are_really_ into trance music ever think that techno people are really snobby and excluding of others? There seems to be all these camps of people...house, drum bass, techno, hip-hop, trance...that like only one particular genre of music and slag everything else. I know house-heads who hate techno of any kind from May to Krome to Aphex. Techno-heads hate trance-heads. Junglists hate anything 4/4. Why is everything so compartmentalized and stratified? What ever happened to togetherness? As John Lennon sang The Dream is Over... Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] dj DIZ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:22:30 +300 the scene is possibly far better than you can imagine. No our women dont dress in black and no We dont listen to arabic kinda music. We have nice house clubs here, and i think, in my opinion, we have the best house techno dj's in europe. dj U.F.U.K . dont forget the name =-) We will have basement jaxx, ken iishi, astral projection and talvin singh here on 2nd of september. But everybodies favorite here is mr. Derrick May. And i guess DJ Diz will be here pretty soon. Hopefully! but... the scene is kinda invaded by Trance dj's at the moment. Afterall anything trance is fashionable these days in the world, isnt it? How is the scene in Istanbul for this kind of stuff? Curious, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: greetings from Istanbul Does anybody have any info about this dj in topic? website and stuff? He spins some place in Chicago i think... some audio, mp3 would make you a Santa Claus of mine. I've listened to 1 set of him, and it was awesome, i felt like buying a plane ticket from Istanbul to Chicago instantly... Turgan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Underground (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs)
RE: Not necessarily my rebuttal, but an interesting one, from Jeremy Gilbert and Ewan Pearson quoted without permission from Discographies - Dance Music, Culture, and the Politics of Sound: The only reason for staying underground is that in relation to dominant structures of power, you are weak. To celebrate that weakness rather than to try to overcome it is to concede social authority to those dominant discourses. It is, in fact, to _choose_ too remain in a subordinate position and to condemn others to a similar position. Very nice use of that quote. I have yet to read that book but it just went to the top of my list. That statement really puts all this keep it real, keep it underground bullshit to the test. I don't think there are too many artists who wouldn't jump at the chance of having some kind of chart/popular success. If you really want to stay underground don't make a website, don't tell anyone about your music (or any other artists), don't try to distribute, basically don't disseminate any info about who you are or what you're doing. The minute you put up a web site you are trying to get some kind of popularity. I think the REAL underground can only be witnessed first hand, and not a lot of acts out there go this route because it's hard (if not impossible) to make a living doing it. I'm not saying that everyone is in it for the money but anyone who records likes to see their records sell. It's the artist who doesn't record their work in one form or another (for whatever reason) that is truely underground. Imagine a DJ that only plays white label test pressings that have no intention of ever being released for sale or promo. That is a strong statement. Being underground is a very radical stance to take. The problem is that the word has become a way to declare yourself hipper than others. The way that most people use underground just means that their favorite artist isn't as widely known as Britney Spears. But it doesn't nessacarily make their fav. any more talented either. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Underground (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:08:38 -0400 on 8/16/00 12:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appericate the fact you are 'helping' your friends , but if you consider a spot on t.r.l. @mtv helping thats just a combitnation of pop music tatics (self promotion) and a painfully evident lack of knowledge concerning what underground is , how it is , and why it is. Not necessarily my rebuttal, but an interesting one, from Jeremy Gilbert and Ewan Pearson quoted without permission from Discographies - Dance Music, Culture, and the Politics of Sound: The only reason for staying underground is that in relation to dominant structures of power, you are weak. To celebrate that weakness rather than to try to overcome it is to concede social authority to those dominant discourses. It is, in fact, to _choose_ too remain in a subordinate position and to condemn others to a similar position. Hmmm. The book is a recommended read for those who enjoy theoretical cultural critique and analysis. Largely UK-centric in its approach to politics, though. A bit of a polar opposite in approach to Dan's Techno Rebels (or a nice companion volume, depending on how you look at it.) -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Underground (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs)
that functions outside the establishment Main Entry: 3un·der·ground Pronunciation: 'n-dr-graund Function: adjective Date: 1610 1 : being, growing, operating, or situated below the surface of the ground 2 : conducted by secret means 3 a : existing outside the establishment an underground literary reputation b : existing outside the purview of tax collectors or statisticians the underground economy 4 a : produced or published outside the establishment especially by the avant-garde underground movies underground newspapers b : of or relating to the avant-garde underground an underground moviemaker an underground theater Main Entry: Underground Railroad Function: noun Date: 1842 : a system of cooperation among active antislavery people in the U.S. before 1863 by which fugitive slaves were secretly helped to reach the North or Canada -- called also Underground Railway I think we are just arguing over the perceived definition of a word now. Which means that someone had to get a definition. (that underground railroad was just for fun!) Anyways, read the definitions before you start calling someone a sell-out or what have you. If you like or dislike the music, that's where you should stand, not telling them they can't promote themselves on this list. If you can give your opinion, then they can self-promote. Even if you think they are selling-out, that's their right. Regards, Dennis. From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Underground (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:44:44 -0500 (CDT) I think 'underground' doesn't mean that you can't sell records, or sign with a label. What's exciting to me is the stuff that happens outside the traditional manufacturing, distribution and publicity systems. Is Watts Music 'underground?' or Sonic Groove? No. They're brick and mortar businesses whose survival is dependent upon them operating as good capitalists. But they are 'underground' in that that sell outside the retail channels, to specialist stores. They're way out at the edge of things. And there is a consequent strain when people try to make the leap (Detroit Grand Pubahs?), because to really play in that larger mass arena you have to tap into a whole new structure for distribution. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=chaircrusher -- mix - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: OUTRAGE
RE: Yeah... But at least Wink had permission! Bad argument considering there are tons of records released every week from the dance/electronic camp that don't have permission. If this tune wasn't in the top ten and wasn't making loads of greenbacks would anybody care? It's all about money! If it quitely went away without making it there it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Suddenly it's in the top ten and everybody is in an uproar. Why don't we have these up-in-arms debates when these tunes are at #140 on the chart? Fred From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: OUTRAGE Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:51:39 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Todd Smith wrote: I'd be more upset about Josh Wink ripping French Kiss than about some lame trance act snaking a couple of synth stabs. todd Yeah... But at least Wink had permission! Not to mention, I kinda like it. *shrugg* derek. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] TV Victor
I just recieved a promo of disk one from Tresor...70 minutes long, very nice. Trance music, real trance stuff, not dance style techno branch off. Total head music. Fred From: Nick Craddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] TV Victor Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:03:33 BST Jane, Heard this on promo recently - exceptionally good it is too. Two and a half hours of downtempo electronic jazz, split into three tracks over two CDs. I remember thinking that it was reminiscent of some of DJ Krush's material. Certainly not the kind of thing you can just stick on for a quick fix. NC Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] TV Victor Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Hi, Doez anyone have mo info, reviews etc. on this nu Tresor release: TV Victor / TV Victor coproduzed by Maurizio... and on topik -- any info on upcoming releases from da rhythm n' sound, main street chain reaction, ~scape camps?? cheerz. 3je Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] No Subject
There isn't any difference really, it's just how you use the technology and the end result of your method. Fred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] No Subject Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:17:18 EDT what's the difference between house and techno music technology? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DJ Cook
RE: I have also heard that he [DJ Cook] is part of Woody McBride's crew in Minniapolis (woah...thats spelled way wrong) any truth to this?? I just got a reply from JT regarding this (JT is Woody's partner in the Mile High Crew here in Minneapolis) and he said: Absolutely not. The only cook I know has given us some problems in the past. Of course, there is the cook at Ichiban... Jack Tuna jtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjtjt So there's your answer... From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DJ Cook Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:08:39 -0700 i was just given a CD by DJ Cook. it was burned off of a store bought copy, and doesn't have the tracklisting. it is called Cook Book 2000. i was wondering if anybody has the tracklisting for this CD. I have also heard that he is part of Woody McBride's crew in Minniapolis (woah...thats spelled way wrong) any truth to this?? any info on him would be much appreciated. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] UtilityPlasticsWho?
Re: I have been trying to find out high and low who is behind the superb Utility Plastics his name is Richard Turner. he'll be playing at Furthur in Wisconsin this year along with Richard Harvey of USER fame... Speaking of which, who plans on going to Even Further this year. The line up looks quite good. Here it is: Scotland's Soma Records North American tour with: Funk D'Void Slam Percy X Richard Harvey live aka User - London Richard Turner - Utility Plastics - London Mark EG - Blackout Audio, Bonzai, Cluster, M8/Wax - London Scott Hardkiss - Hardkiss Music, Sunburn - San Francisco Woody McBride aka dj ESP - Communique Records - Minneapolis Matt Green live - Corrupt, Disturbance, Special Forces - London Double D vs. Camry - The Sub-Link vs. Horizon - Calgary vs. Charlotte UFO! - Phunckateck, Position Chrome, Thermal, Green Label - San Francisco Phantom 45 - Chicago UndergroundSolJazz - Chicago Lego - Afterhours, Red Dog - Chicago Mazi - Afterhours, Gourmet Recordings, Grayhound - Chicago Justin Long - Gramaphone, IHR - Chicago Frankie Vega - Mushgroove, SHR, Blue Line - Chicago Jes One - Groove Shop, Deceptikon Unit - Rockford Russ Abitz, Matt Butler, and Curtis - West Benders Spiritual Krack Laboratory - Louisville, KY presents: a return to mystery with Strange Loop, the Chef, Marky Mark, Tig, Imperial Sound System, and friends... Stations of the Lost the Theater-of-Destruction with TJ Richter and the donkey devils ...I like the sound of donkey devils. Hope to see some of you there? Fred From: douglas wayne a.k.a. varsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UtilityPlasticsWho? Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:32:56 -0500 I have been trying to find out high and low who is behind the superb Utility Plastics series (8 releases this far) but to no avail. If anyone has more information on the label and on who is responsible for the releases, please respond privately. I know it's an UK label, but... his name is Richard Turner. he'll be playing at Furthur in Wisconsin this year along with Richard Harvey of USER fame... --doug : douglas wayne a.k.a. varsha: : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Scarab : Giko Rec. : SUBterror : PTLF : :: :www.gikorecordings.com : - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Modulations
Re: Somewhere midway Derrick May talks to a rather aged man with a Planet E cap Was this in the Modulations video? I don't remember that...I'll have to go home and pop it in the VCR again. Talking about techno videos/tv has anyone ever seen the Space Night program on German BR tv, Bayerisches Fernsehen? Elektrolux artsits provide the soundtracks to images from outerspace (apparently), and the videos are for sale as well. I have some of the Space Night compilations and they are quite good. The website for the shows is: (http://www.br-online.de/wissenschaft/spacenight/) Fred From: xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Modulations Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:53:21 GMT The more conceptual, intelligent, visionary doc. on Techno music. Actually, the name of this aged man is Abdul Haqq(belongs to UR camp),he has made among million things(walls and roof's artwork at Submerge...)Interstellar Fugitives artwork. In this documentary, he was speaking about the 4th dimension, a GREAT realistic sci-fi story. I'm still wondering why he doesn't write a book, including some artworks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Modulations Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:11:02 EDT Somewhere midway Derrick May talks to a rather aged man with a Planet E cap who describes the existence of a 10th planet and how it's meant to represent this music we called techno. I still wonder how much more he knows. A_Zed _ Program Co-ordinator, Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Sunday Electronic Listening [http://rtrfm.ii.net] Perth, W.Aust (WST) 23.00-01.00 Detroit (EST) 10.00-12.00 Frankfurt (CET)/ London(GMT)16.00-18.00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Modulations/Caipirinha website
http://www.caipirinha.com/index1.html It's $25.00 also check out this video - 'architettura - film . music . architecture . vol. 1' it's very short but really nice if you're interested in architecture. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Modulations
RE: does anyone know if iarra lee is doing anothe documentary soon...? Currently she's touring with the Architectura show and that has had a long tour schedule so I doubt she's currently working on anything, but of course I could be wrong. BTW I saw that show and was disappointed with the live music...found sound experiments sound great when you're up late around 3 or 4 am and alone f*cking around with effects but when you listen to someone else do it it's daft. The found sound guy who is doing the vol 5 of Architectura was utter poo live...boring boring boring. The architecture slides and video installments were great though...bought the video and the Panacea CD. Wish that they used video during the live music parts instead of slides. The music was stagnant and it didn't help that they used slides instead of video to show the architecture (which was full of implied movement and life). And I still don't know why electronic music and architecture seems to go hand in hand...which was what the whole presentation was supposed to address. Lots of people left halfway through. I stuck it out but I've gotten more out of the video I purchased than the entire live presentation. Fred From: Greg Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Modulations Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:03:50 EDT there was another, much better series, in my opinion, that came out about 3-4 years ago sponsered by the rock and roll hall of fame, and experience music project, that had an episode dedicated to the perfect beat...it included hip-hop, techno, house, electro, kraftwerk etc...and interviews with, derrick may, frankie knuckles, run-dmc, beastie boys, de la soul, new order, africa bambaata etc...very informative in the general sense, definately not as centered on the modern electronic music scene as modulations is. does anyone know if iarra lee is doing anothe documentary soon...? greg From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Modulations Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:53:22 EST One that comes to mind is that BBC-one, the final episode in that Rock'N'Roll TV-series documentary (don't remember the name), where May Dancing in the Street was the name of that one. The chapter focusing James Brown/funk/pfunk was also really good for an Aussie white(ish)boy like me who knew not an awful lot about the history of the music. out. dave. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: DJ Rush/Cajmere
Re: I've heard there is a (i think) DJ rush track that uses the same vocal as feelin' - feelin' like a woman...looking like a man Anyone heard this? Yes, there is but I can't think of the track. However, I think Grace Jones first used that line. Seriously. Fred From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Wihlmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SV: [313] MR. FINGERS QUESTION // L HEARD TRACK ID Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:39:29 +0100 (BST) Live 2 (Cajmere) A: Feelin' B: Electric Eighties Is actually: Live 2 A: Feelin' B1: Electric B2: Eighties I've heard there is a (i think) DJ rush track that uses the same vocal as feelin' - feelin' like a woman...looking like a man Anyone heard this? neil -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 1 augusti 2000 06:49 Till: Giles Dickerson; 313 Ämne: Re: [313] MR. FINGERS QUESTION // L HEARD TRACK ID If no one has got to this yet, the track is a Cajmere track that came out on (I think it was) LIVE, a short-lived sub-label of Cajual in their final days (the first time around). If I'm not mistaken there were two LIVE releases. One featured Lookin' for a man, the other featured, Lookin' like a man, feelin' like a woman. Unfortunately, I can't find anything right nw because I'm in a transitory state for the next month. I know nothing about the availability of either. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:38 AM Subject: [313] MR. FINGERS QUESTION // L HEARD TRACK ID TRACK ID // Mr. Fingers plays this record in every set I've heard him play. 303 melody circling on the top, bad ass bass line, banging kick and a g-man type of sound on the hits. The vocal is a guy saying // I'm so nasty girl, I'm so nasty and a girl saying // I'm llooking for a man, I'm looking for a man to love me PLEAE HELP ME I'D THIS TRACK AND IF ANYONE HAS IT AND WANTS TO SELL IT EVEN BETTER. // giles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] millshouse?
Re: I hear a 'housier' shift in his [Jeff Mills] music myself, though it is still minimal. Maybe we are moving into a new era of techno - the music is 'deeper' and more melodic again. This can be heard all over the Tresor 8 Comp. I wish Mills would do more club dates over 'raves'. The crowds are more sophisticated. I agree to a certain extent...kids running around with every piece of their clothing either glowing or flashing and their eyes wider than the back end of an elephant is very very old news. However, those old enough to drink and do so until they fall down the stairs, or are just going out without knowing who's playing are just as annoying. This happened with Claude Young here in Mpls. (although it was an 18+ show, legal drinking age is 21), lots of people dancing to the trance stuff. The light sticks were really flying while one of the local DJs was warming up the decks for Young. It looked like glowbugs stuck in a tumble dryer down at the laudrette. Then when Claude took over, he stopped the silliness cold (yes, I do sometimes think all that rave stuff is silly...not always mind you, just at this particular moment I certainly did because I had a strong feeling it would stop when Claude Young started). He started the beats up and the light sticks and, sure enough, all the blinking head visors were GONEthe dance floor literally became darker. It was Very interesting to see. In addition, the floor opened up because lots of those people left. My conclusion? I don't think they were clued in to who he is and the music he plays. On the same note, this happens at the raves as well. The turn-out was small (I think a lot of people are too tired to party Friday nights - they want housier sounds instead of techno maybe)... Funny, seems to be the same situation here. Halfway around the world. Fridays seems to attract the 'handbag' crowd (nothing wrong with that) and Saturday are for the die hards (techno or house or...) because they either go out on Friday and Saturday (and possibly Sunday too), or they know that every pent-up office worker is going to be out Friday getting pissed, and not wanting to be challenged by the music (yes, I think for the most part house is less challenging then techno to listen to, not all house, mind you, just most that gets club play). Fred yet appreciative but I didn't really get into it (I was not in the mood since everyone had forgotten my birthday and I had expensive iMac computer repairs to worry about after a mega crash on an important deadline!!). Peace Cyclone After a number of listens to every dog... I want to agree with others on the list who have suggested it's a masterpiece. To me it's a new direction for Mills: he combines the floorfriendly momentum of the purposemaker releases with the abstract sounds of his axis stuff to produces a housesound uniquely his own (millshouse, perhaps). Has anyone heard him play recently? He played Perth about 3 months ago, and while excellent didn't descend into the housier sounds of the lp. Do you think he's signalling a shift in sensibilities with the lp (dj-wise, I mean), or merely presenting another side of himself as producer? Also, does anyone know the significance of the 'millsart' moniker he uses for this release? I know he's used it before, but not on all the axis releases. Which releases has he used it for, and how are they different to his Jeff Mills releases? Lots of questions, but releases like these demand them Cheers Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
