Re: RIP Techno Tourist & Electro producer Wibo Lammerts

[Kevin Kennedy]

Thorin, my comment has everything to do with being present.
Thank you to all for the kind words.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 9:26 AM Thorin Teague  wrote:

> W1b0 was always really good about keeping up communication. He was a bit
> of a social butterfly which is no small part of why everyone liked him.
>
> I now know by the way that he unexpectedly went into cardiac arrest.
> Resuscitation was attempted but failed. He was in basically good/great
> health.
>
> I'm really sorry to hear about your health situation, too. I hope you get
> well ASAP.
>
> I'm no more concerned about what happens to me after I die then I am
> concerned about what was happening to me before I was born. Almost everyone
> who is anxious about the former has no worry about the latter. I believe
> that attitude kind of reveals the game.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 8:15 AM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> What really is even more sad is that many of us barely communicate with
>> each other until it's time to eulogize the ones we lost.
>>
>> I'm sad about this passing, as I have been about so many other friends
>> that I'll never see again.
>>
>> Here's my personal perspective:
>> I have, for the last two years or so have been on dialysis.  I've spent
>> the last year having multiple eye surgeries in order to save my sight.
>> I've been through hell.
>>
>> We as a society focus so much on dying and death that many times people
>> forget to think about living.
>> Tell friends that you love them. Say the kind words to the people who you
>> respect. Thank the artists that enriched your experience. It takes nothing
>> to be nice, and who knows, you might make their day brighter.
>>
>> Just a thought for you from someone who has had to confront his mortality
>> recently.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 1:33 PM Thorin Teague 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Makes for a sad morning. He was very well loved and liked throughout the
>>> Detroit and Germam community.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 8:31 AM Pwacher  wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is really sad news. He really was a great guy and was writing some
>>>> great music too.
>>>>
>>>> P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2022 at 11:16 AM, >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A long-time 313 subscriber & Dutch "Techno-tourist"  Wibo Lammerts has
>>>> died.
>>>>
>>>> This was sudden, I have no details. He'd just announced an upcoming
>>>> Berlin gig.
>>>>
>>>> Holding his family in the light.
>>>>
>>>>

Re: RIP Techno Tourist & Electro producer Wibo Lammerts

[Kevin Kennedy]

What really is even more sad is that many of us barely communicate with
each other until it's time to eulogize the ones we lost.

I'm sad about this passing, as I have been about so many other friends that
I'll never see again.

Here's my personal perspective:
I have, for the last two years or so have been on dialysis.  I've spent the
last year having multiple eye surgeries in order to save my sight.  I've
been through hell.

We as a society focus so much on dying and death that many times people
forget to think about living.
Tell friends that you love them. Say the kind words to the people who you
respect. Thank the artists that enriched your experience. It takes nothing
to be nice, and who knows, you might make their day brighter.

Just a thought for you from someone who has had to confront his mortality
recently.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 1:33 PM Thorin Teague  wrote:

> Makes for a sad morning. He was very well loved and liked throughout the
> Detroit and Germam community.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 8:31 AM Pwacher  wrote:
>
>> This is really sad news. He really was a great guy and was writing some
>> great music too.
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2022 at 11:16 AM, >
>> wrote:
>>
>> A long-time 313 subscriber & Dutch "Techno-tourist"  Wibo Lammerts has
>> died.
>>
>> This was sudden, I have no details. He'd just announced an upcoming
>> Berlin gig.
>>
>> Holding his family in the light.
>>
>>

Re: Snazzy Jeff

[Kevin Kennedy]

Please be careful with your forum subjects, as someone who is 22, buying
old records off discogs from warehouse setlists and has a bio that says he
"totally gets it" might use your email as their new production moniker.

Then again... we'll never know

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:00 PM Patrick Wacher  wrote:

> He's looking pretty good in his threads -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EahXXV0KlCY
>

Re: Happy Birthday, Dan Sicko

[Kevin Kennedy]

So sad that he's gone... worse that there will not be another.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 11:56 AM Andrew Duke 
wrote:

> Happy Birthday, Dan. "Daniel S. Sicko [26Sep1968-28Aug2011] was a music
> journalist and scholar of techno music dedicated to legitimizing Detroit
> techno and establishing its place in music history. He earned a B.S. from
> the University of Detroit in 1990 and established a career in digital
> advertising, ultimately serving as a Creative Director of the Detroit
> office of the advertising firm Organic, Inc. Early in his career Sicko was
> a freelance writer for *Rolling Stone*, electronic and underground music
> periodicals such as *Alternative Press* and *URB*, and the digital
> technology magazine *Wired*. He also founded *Reverb*, one of the first
> periodicals exclusively devoted to digital music. Sicko is perhaps best
> known for his book *Techno Rebels: The Renegades of Electronic Funk* (first
> published in 1999 and reissued in 2010), which is widely considered to be a
> groundbreaking text with regard to the history of Detroit techno music. 
> *Techno
> Rebels* chronicles the genre's origins as an underground movement led by
> Detroit's African-American high school students. Sicko also gave lectures
> on the Detroit music scene and was a key figure in the establishment of the
> 313 Mailing List (a 1990s mailing list critical for enthusiasts of Detroit
> techno). Throughout his career Sicko engaged in extensive researches on the
> Detroit music industry and on electronic music in general, for which he
> conducted dozens of interviews with Detroit-based techno artists and
> producers."
>
> Source: Kirn, Peter. "Loss of a Techno Rebel: Why Dan Sicko will be Sorely
> Missed." *createdigitalmusic.com * , 29
> August 2011.
>

Re: Ooops found a gem

[Kevin Kennedy]

I still want to skip ahead to 2050.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 6:03 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:

> Dude I was just teasing him back for calling us mother fuckers.  You
> missed my smiley emoticon?
>
> IDGAF whatever is shared.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:49 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> I'd love to skip ahead to 2050, or an alternate universe where members of
>> this list stop being fucking trolls.
>>
>>
>> And if the shoe fits, hop around in it.
>>
>> Motown influenced popular music around the world... and less people who
>> were influenced by the sound never talked to Mr Gordy.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 1:27 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:
>>
>>> Totally off topic :-)
>>>
>>> Wel I guess we can change the group to “music we like from artists who
>>> may at one time have spoken to a Detroit artist”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:22 AM Thorin Teague 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't you love when you stumble on a gem of beautiful music?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbf9Jr5J88=IwAR2obz5evMcKNnDFNO15uUFU59-LBqcY2WvHIAjXVL9oFydgjpRgtZtD9Zc
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who tells me this is off topic, I swear to christ, I will reach
>>>> through the screen and slap you to 2050. I dare you to tell me this is
>>>> off topic, motherfuckers.
>>>>
>>>

Re: Ooops found a gem

[Kevin Kennedy]

I'd love to skip ahead to 2050, or an alternate universe where members of
this list stop being fucking trolls.


And if the shoe fits, hop around in it.

Motown influenced popular music around the world... and less people who
were influenced by the sound never talked to Mr Gordy.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 1:27 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:

> Totally off topic :-)
>
> Wel I guess we can change the group to “music we like from artists who may
> at one time have spoken to a Detroit artist”
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:22 AM Thorin Teague 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't you love when you stumble on a gem of beautiful music?
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbf9Jr5J88=IwAR2obz5evMcKNnDFNO15uUFU59-LBqcY2WvHIAjXVL9oFydgjpRgtZtD9Zc
>>
>> Anyone who tells me this is off topic, I swear to christ, I will reach
>> through the screen and slap you to 2050. I dare you to tell me this is
>> off topic, motherfuckers.
>>
>

Re: FW: What this list is and isn't about

[Kevin Kennedy]

Joe:

   You're not helping.  Not at all.  Please keep your sideshow baiting
antics elsewhere before this turns into a roast-of you.  I will bring up
the Detroit tradition of 'snapping' on you if necessary.  You've hung out
with some of the Detroit family...you CAN get roasted, salted and
shook...then sold by the bag for peanuts.

Denise:  This may be fun to you to antagonize others today-but I'd
absolutely love to see better from someone who is a respected academic.
One of the many themes of Detroit Techno is escapism, maybe we should all
consider escaping from arguing about politics and who said what and
semantics.  At the end, all our coffins will be the same size (or our urn a
similar amount of ashes).

Second, y'all mfers name-calling and picking fights aren't sh!t.  Be an
adult please...and miss me all the way with the 'well she started it' BS.

Sometimes it's better to sit on your hands until they're numb than type out
hot garbage that will be a permanent record.

Play some records, make some music, play that game on your phone that you
downloaded and haven't tried yet...Heck, find something!

 Because in my opinion, the above is extremely counterproductive.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:50 PM Mario De Block  wrote:

>
>
> oh boy/girl/X (and I write X as to write inclusively here - at no specific
> person in that sense, if present)
>
> Denise. Stop centering yourself endlessly. I conscientiously wrote
> whatever gender has whatever under the belt. You yourself ranted at whoever
> being shaped to small for you.
>
> Look what you wrote a few hours ago. Look what you write. I don't take
> that. Return to sender.
>
> M.
> --
> *Van:* Denise Dalphond 
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 1 juli 2020 0:45
> *Aan:* Mario De Block 
> *CC:* Daniel Bean ; Joe Marougi ;
> Rob Taylor ; The Archiver <
> thearchi...@thearchiver.net>; U Design ;
> list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: What this list is and isn't about
>
> Why is anyone on this list concerned with my genitals? I don’t understand.
> You’ll never get close to them. Maybe you wanna go talk to a therapist.
>
> When someone tells you they’re female and you still say he or X, it makes
> me think you’re stupid.
>
> Oftentimes, people that act homophobic and sexist, also act racist.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:35 PM Mario De Block 
> wrote:
>
> anything D-related (in broad sense) would be welcome for me, on this forum
> - Kent proposals did well for that?
> But why would anyone post snide comments, that freeze the atmosphere?
> Regardless of what he/she/X has under the belt, and the size of it.
> A forum requires some form of connection (which D techno/house music is in
> itself), but to me, it also requires some engagement in wanting to preserve
> at least some essential spirit of that connection. A web forum requires
> digital communication, which just requires at least a minimal bit of
> estimation of how one's communication will or could be read or understood -
> and bridging miscommunication gaps, if happening, is as essential.
>
>
> (ps, I don't think Joe compared BLM to KKK, he connected BHI to them, and
> this requires nuance too).
>
> € 0.02
>
> Mario
>
>
>

-- 
FBK

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Hi. I made another record...and an interview...

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi all remaining on the list...

Here's a couple of links to share with you of my most recent record that
came out last week.
https://soundcloud.com/knotweed-records/kw036-fbk-throatcrush-ep
Buy links are in the description.  One currently remains for sale on
Bandcamp.

Also, Peter Kirn of CDM did an interview with me, and it may be the most
extensive of my career.  Also filled with links to some of my other recent
works:)

https://cdm.link/2020/06/fbk-techno-interview/

If you have trouble identifying whether or not this is '313 related,'  I
would suggest reading my interview first, as it tells a portion of the
story of my affiliation with Detroit and the Techno scene in general.


-- 
FBK

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Re: D*nise D*lphond

[Kevin Kennedy]

To me, this does not deserve celebration.  However, it hopefully serves as
a call to action for all involved with this list:  Open and frank
discussions are necessary and can be had with list members.  This is the
closest to a private forum we have outside of sitting in a room with a tape
recorder running.



On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 9:23 PM Eamonn Doyle  wrote:

> Thank god for that..  thank you !!
>
> Eamonn / D1-Dublin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29 Jun 2020, at 01:36, kent williams  wrote:
>
> If someone still communicates with Denise, tell her she's being
> unsubscribed and blocked from this E-Mail list.
>
> She's blocked me so I can't do it myself.  I can't see her Tweets or
> Facebook posts either because I'm blocked, but I've had tweets forwarded to
> me complaining that it's a list where old white people tell you what you
> can listen to, and attacking me specifically.
>
> I have always given list members broad latitude as to what they can post,
> I am not the tone police, as Denise has accused me of being.  I've asked
> her not to make ad hominem attacks.  Turns out she's not read any of my
> private e-mails, so sending them was a waste of my time.
>
> I think that reading the e-mails from the admin is a minimum requirement
> for being a member of the list. If you don't like how things are run, you
> can unsubscribe.  You can curse me, debate me, whatever, but you do have to
> pay attention to me. I promise to contact people privately rarely.
>
> I have always treated Denise with what I thought was a respectful
> attitude. I've always credited her for doing a lot of good work in
> scholarship and community activism for the Detroit music scene. But that
> wasn't enough, apparently.
>
> I wish her well in all her future endeavors, but those endeavors will no
> longer include the 313 mailing list.
>
> Going forward, I'm thinking a better way to handle people causing trouble
> on the list is to 86 them early and often. Many people who I think were
> equally as valuable - or more valuable - to the 313 techno music scene have
> unsubscribed because of her.
>
> I'm no longer willing to allow people to hijack this list for whatever
> reason. And that doesn't mean I'm going to censor anyone. It does mean you
> have to play nice.
>
>
>

-- 
FBK

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Re: the noise level on this list

[Kevin Kennedy]

Fred, I am both problem and solution.

I've gotten to a point where I won't even post my own work up here,or share
the works of my contemporaries... mainly because I'm always afraid it won't
be 'Detroit' enough.

To have a judgement free forum, silence is necessary.

I'm not quite ready to shut up.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:40 PM Fred Heutte  wrote:

> The noise level and disrespect on this list are unbearable.  Check
> yourselves and consider: are you part of the problem or are you
> part of the solution?
>
> peace
>
> fh
>
> ---
>
> It was always about the music:
> Is it hot or is it not?
> -- Electrifying Mojo
>
>

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

[Kevin Kennedy]

I rarely chime in on the list but trend towards paying attention when I
can.

For many, it can be really difficult to cut through the 'noise' that
happens on a daily basis, as we are 100% inundated with information about
nearly any and every subject we could be interested in, and some we're not.

Maybe the choice of words "perspective" may have been in some ways
incomplete/misleading, however the intent was understood by me to be one of
a noble and humble nature.  Most people don't have the time in their modern
life to collect all of the reading documents and take the deeper dive
necessary to understand any subject.  Unfortunately, not all techno people
are academics-but many are curious, which is a great trait for anyone
academically-minded.

That said, I LOVE  Dr. Denise, and you all should know that she 'keeps that
same energy' for EVERYTHING...as Ethnomusicology is also her life's work.
If many had as much passion and persistence to rely on, we'd all probably
do much more than we already do.

Fire and emotional content aren't easy things to channel.  It's taken me
years to learn how to choose when and where I call out things I don't
like.  I've recently done an interview with Peter Kirn and while I had some
opportunity to say whatever I chose, I realized that denigrating people can
be messy.

DWELLER, as a whole, is a useful resource and may get one more person to
understand better the history of this music and have a better appreciation
for what makes it special and influential.  We must all learn together,
those who haven't learned the story should, and those who are attempting to
be helpful should be encouraged to find other resources that could be more
relevant if the ones they share are in some way not.

I'm going to say in closing that we all on this list have a duty to
understand one another.  We have to come together like buttcheeks instead
of sniping at each other like the outside world does on a daily basis.
We're all here on this list for the music first-But we can also learn from
each other.

I sincerely hope all of you are well.  FBK out.




On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams 
wrote:

> On the one hand, Denise has valid points.
>
> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for
> the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black
> artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion.
>
> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make without
> making other people want to leave the 313 list.
>
> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
> anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
> its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
> make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
> uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
> uncomfortable.
>
> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time with
> complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular list
> members only see what's on the list.
>
> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
> with black music, and no one should.
>
> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
> you, not about the music or the people.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>
>> Allgxxd
>>
>> I hear you essay
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
>> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
>> >
>> > -- Forwarded message -
>> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
>> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
>> > To: Denise Dalphond 
>> >
>> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
>> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
>> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
>> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
>> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
>> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
>> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
>> >> professionally. So, s.
>> >>
>> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
>> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.
>> >>
>> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?
>> >>
>> >> Denise Dalphond
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on?
>> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common
>> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division
>> >> between people by this 

Re: Oldham Industries

[Kevin Kennedy]

Very cool, but I always love Alan's artwork!

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 6:37 AM ja...@iridite.com  wrote:
>
> Hi list - a friend of mine runs a T-Shirt company here in Glasgow that 
> specialises in small run T-Shirts with some really nice collaborators.  Their 
> latest release is for a Fear-E x Oldham Industries creation, thought it might 
> be worth mentioning on here:
>
> https://weare1of100.co.uk/limited-edition/fear-e-x-oldham-industries/
>
> Fear-E also releases on Dixon Avenue Basement Jams, he's a good guy and a 
> great DJ, worth checking as he's playing out in the UK more and more at the 
> moment
>
> cheers
>
> Jason



-- 
FBK

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Re: Michael James vs Derrick May

[Kevin Kennedy]

Ahh, the endless cycle...
Derrick does a re-re-re-re release (includes something out of the
vault that was released three decades ago)
Derrick hints that he's 'getting back in the studio' and people get
excited for new works from Mr. May
Someone claims that the work Derrick's peddling wasn't his to begin
with/stolen/collaborators weren't credited or paid
Court of public opinion chimes in and makes judgement based upon
information provided, some pick a side.
Derrick is accused of many other things, stories emerge.
Hype surrounds the release because of the possible implications of the stories.
Mr. May continues his legendary status and tours the world, DJing.

Rinse, and repeat.

I sincerely hope that whatever happens this time, it's resolved for
good and those feeling they deserve something get what they deserve.
Since I don't have a dog in this fight, I just hope this comes to an
amiable solution.

However, knowing some of my close friends who refuse to meet Derrick
alone gives me pause to the plausibility of some of these accusations.

Unfortunately, this is still great press for Derrick May's current
venture, and until something 'really' happens, it will remain that
way.   I'm saddened by this.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:45 AM Wibo Lammerts  wrote:
>
> Goodmorning good people of the 313,
>
> I don't see any post about this, or I could have missed it, but I was 
> wondering what the general opinion is about the recent messages from Michael 
> James on Facebook regarding Derrick May?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=793874029
>
> Cheers,
>
> W
>
> --
> | soundcloud | mixcloud | twitter |
> --



-- 
FBK

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Re: New Ken Ishii album!

[Kevin Kennedy]

It's kind of dope...:)


On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 9:08 AM Patrick Wacher  wrote:

> Now this is, how do you say it, interesting:
>
> "Ken has recently produced the official theme song for the international
> PAC-MAN 40th Anniversary campaign that will run in 2020."
>
> https://youtu.be/nqEAQnxh6xc
>
> /P
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:31 AM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> As one of the Japanese artist most closely associated with Detroit Techno
>> - but with his own unique sound - a new album is an important event. For
>> added Detroit-related goodness, the album includes a Jeff Mills
>> collaboration.
>>
>> https://www.6amgroup.com/japanese-techno-pioneer-ken-ishii-mobius-strip-jeff-mills-dose-go-hiyama-collaborations/
>>
>

-- 
FBK

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Re: HAAi

[Kevin Kennedy]

--drug overdoses, sexual assault,
>>> cops beating the shit out of people, promoters narking on each other
>>> shutting down each others' parties, promoters throwing parties mostly to
>>> sell drugs. I'm not discounting the positive aspects to say that the rave
>>> scene had a terrible dark side, which is part of why they were able to shut
>>> it down as the US morphed into a full police state following 9/11. (Btw,
>>> keep in mind that Joe Biden was a big supporter of using crackhouse laws to
>>> shut down raves.)
>>>
>>> Third, I understand dance music and having fun. I just DJed for six
>>> hours at a work xmas party. I know how to make people dance.
>>>
>>> But this is NOT a "RAVE DANCE MUSIC" list, it's a DETROIT TECHNO list,
>>> and one of the things that sets Detroit techno apart is that it includes
>>> ambient music and other sounds that are not meant for dancing, a typical
>>> example is Robert Hood "The Exodus". Somehow the idea of "Detroit
>>> techno" as something different and special seems to be lost. Maybe you
>>> don't like my idea of Detroit Techno--I challenge you to come up with your
>>> own vision!
>>>
>>> Nobody is preventing anyone from enjoying nostalgic house, but I'd like
>>> to talk about MUSIC BASED IN EXPERIMENTATION, music that could help us
>>> create a better FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE.
>>>
>>> The human race might go extinct. If techno could help create the hope
>>> and vision to work for a better world, than that would be better than
>>> dancing until the world ends. Does everyone just believe shit is so
>>> hopeless that there is no choice but to get as fucked up as possibility and
>>> blast that rave music as the planet slowly poisons itself and commits
>>> suicide.
>>>
>>> Why has everyone given up on the possibility that art--including
>>> "Detroit techno"--could help inspire us to create a better world? Were the
>>> innovators who created techno WRONG?!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvKUWb5H5BI
>>>
>>> ~David
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 1:54 AM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Denise:  First of all, thanks for sharing work you think is
>>>> noteworthy...going to have to give it a listen when I can.
>>>>
>>>> David:  Last I checked, we're still in virtually the same spot that we
>>>> were in the dawn of techno...as the saying goes "the names and faces have
>>>> changed, but the game is still the same."  However, one of the fine things
>>>> missing from many human beings doing the writing, listening and performing
>>>> of this music that somehow unifies us all on a giant Venn Diagram
>>>> is...ENJOYMENT.
>>>>
>>>> As much as I wish to give the entire group of under-30 somethings a
>>>> 'history lesson' and shake my fist about how things used to be (a la "they
>>>> didn't even let us play in nightclubs!!!  We had to play in warehouses and
>>>> inhale asbestos!!!  AND WE LIKED IT!!!"), the prevailing winds dictate that
>>>> this revolutionary music that we were on the ground floor for now has a
>>>> history.  We're part of that, and as Shake Shakir put it bluntly:  "Those
>>>> who know, know.  Those who don't, don't care."
>>>>
>>>> With all the problems in the world today, some people are just looking
>>>> for an escape, and a way to remind themselves of times where they had FUN
>>>> (anyone remember FUN? I do...vaguely).  Honestly-I wish I could escape from
>>>> this crazy place...
>>>>
>>>> It troubles me to think that many of us have truly lost sight of the
>>>> enjoyment and the freedom that comes from dancing.  Of course, politics has
>>>> its place in everything...strip it away for moments at a time and learn to
>>>> enjoy right now.
>>>>
>>>> We ARE the future we planned.  We didn't plan as well as we should have.
>>>>
>>>> Happy holidays to everyone,
>>>>
>>>> FBK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 2:08 AM DJ Shiva  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I surely love anyone who wants to dictate what techno should or
>>>>> shouldn't be. I guess we all forgot our dour faces and dire music poses.
>>>>> **fart noise**
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM David A. Powers 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Techno should aim for a utopian future not wallow in nostalgia for a
>>>>>> moment in time characterized by late capitalist exploitation and extreme
>>>>>> global inequality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:20 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone else been listening to HAAi? Her latest ep from November
>>>>>>> is amazingness. Every song. I would dance to it. It makes me feel like 
>>>>>>> I’m
>>>>>>> at a rave in the late nineties in Chicago or New York.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> FBK
>>>>
>>>> Absoloop/Orange 82
>>>>
>>>

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: HAAi

[Kevin Kennedy]

Your response is as stuffy and psuedo academic as I expected it to be.

Thanks for the'history lesson' of a movement and scene that I have been a
participant in for the last 32 years or so

Oddly enough,  you should know that the 313 list not only has members who
understand the history of the music-but also has members who are living and
breathing testament to the power of that work.

It's hard for me to not be offended in some way but I also understand
that my condescension is being met with a 'thorough explanation' of your
point.

WE ARE IN THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW.

NONE of the messages put forth in the music have been listened to by the
masses... sadly UR only got a few of us to 'not allow ourselves to be
programmed.'

Since it's Xmas day today and I am going to celebrate with my family, I'm
going to ask you this question (I don't even want to see your answer, just
ponder when you can):

Is peace, harmony and joy achievable?

Consider that your reply to Demise set off a contentious discussion with
each of us refusing to back down from their perch, that idea of peace
through intelligence seems shaky.

Have a great holiday.


On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 5:13 AM David A. Powers  wrote:

> First off, I didn't come up with the idea that techno has something to do
> with the future, Juan Atkins and then UR came up with these ideas, which
> means they have ALWAYS been part of techno. According to the UR manifesto 
> "Techno
> is a music based in experimentation; it is music for the future of the
> human race." -- Underground Resistance did. See
> http://www.undergroundresistance.com/
>
> Underground Resistance is a label for a movement. A movement that wants
>> change by sonic revolution. We urge you to join the resistance and *help
>> us combat the mediocre audio and visual programming that is being fed to
>> the inhabitants of Earth, this programming is stagnating the minds of the
>> people*; building a wall between races and preventing world peace. It is
>> this wall we are going to smash. By using the untapped energy potential of
>> sound we are going to destroy this wall much the same as certain
>> frequencies shatter glass. *Techno is a music based in experimentation;
>> it is music for the future of the human race.* Without this music there
>> will be no peace, no love, no vision. By simply communicating through
>> sound, techno has brought people of all different nationalities together
>> under one roof to enjoy themselves. Isn‘t it obvious that music and dance
>> are the keys to the universe? So called primitive animals and tribal humans
>> have known this for thousands of years! We urge all brothers and sisters of
>> the underground to create and transmit their tones and frequencies no
>> matter how so called primitive their equipment may be. Transmit these tones
>> and wreak havoc on the programmers!”
>
>
> Second, raves were often not great--drug overdoses, sexual assault, cops
> beating the shit out of people, promoters narking on each other shutting
> down each others' parties, promoters throwing parties mostly to sell drugs.
> I'm not discounting the positive aspects to say that the rave scene had a
> terrible dark side, which is part of why they were able to shut it down as
> the US morphed into a full police state following 9/11. (Btw, keep in mind
> that Joe Biden was a big supporter of using crackhouse laws to shut down
> raves.)
>
> Third, I understand dance music and having fun. I just DJed for six hours
> at a work xmas party. I know how to make people dance.
>
> But this is NOT a "RAVE DANCE MUSIC" list, it's a DETROIT TECHNO list, and
> one of the things that sets Detroit techno apart is that it includes
> ambient music and other sounds that are not meant for dancing, a typical
> example is Robert Hood "The Exodus". Somehow the idea of "Detroit techno"
> as something different and special seems to be lost. Maybe you don't like
> my idea of Detroit Techno--I challenge you to come up with your own vision!
>
> Nobody is preventing anyone from enjoying nostalgic house, but I'd like to
> talk about MUSIC BASED IN EXPERIMENTATION, music that could help us create
> a better FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE.
>
> The human race might go extinct. If techno could help create the hope and
> vision to work for a better world, than that would be better than dancing
> until the world ends. Does everyone just believe shit is so hopeless that
> there is no choice but to get as fucked up as possibility and blast that
> rave music as the planet slowly poisons itself and commits suicide.
>
> Why has everyone given up on the possibility that art--including "Detroit
> techno"--could help inspire us to create a better world? Were the
> innov

Re: HAAi

[Kevin Kennedy]

Denise: the love is mutual

My sarcasm didn't translate as well...I was just riffing on that old "back
in my day" idiom... haha...

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Denise Dalphond 
wrote:

> FBK, I love and respect you 4ever. But I just gotta say, they’ve always
> been havin techno in the clubs. In the eighties & nineties, in US cities,
> and cities on other continents. In the clubs. It’s just rave culture is
> awesomer cause more people could gather round.
>
> Denise
>
>
> <3
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 2:54 AM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> Denise:  First of all, thanks for sharing work you think is
>> noteworthy...going to have to give it a listen when I can.
>>
>> David:  Last I checked, we're still in virtually the same spot that we
>> were in the dawn of techno...as the saying goes "the names and faces have
>> changed, but the game is still the same."  However, one of the fine things
>> missing from many human beings doing the writing, listening and performing
>> of this music that somehow unifies us all on a giant Venn Diagram
>> is...ENJOYMENT.
>>
>> As much as I wish to give the entire group of under-30 somethings a
>> 'history lesson' and shake my fist about how things used to be (a la "they
>> didn't even let us play in nightclubs!!!  We had to play in warehouses and
>> inhale asbestos!!!  AND WE LIKED IT!!!"), the prevailing winds dictate that
>> this revolutionary music that we were on the ground floor for now has a
>> history.  We're part of that, and as Shake Shakir put it bluntly:  "Those
>> who know, know.  Those who don't, don't care."
>>
>> With all the problems in the world today, some people are just looking
>> for an escape, and a way to remind themselves of times where they had FUN
>> (anyone remember FUN? I do...vaguely).  Honestly-I wish I could escape from
>> this crazy place...
>>
>> It troubles me to think that many of us have truly lost sight of the
>> enjoyment and the freedom that comes from dancing.  Of course, politics has
>> its place in everything...strip it away for moments at a time and learn to
>> enjoy right now.
>>
>> We ARE the future we planned.  We didn't plan as well as we should have.
>>
>> Happy holidays to everyone,
>>
>> FBK
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 2:08 AM DJ Shiva  wrote:
>>
>>> I surely love anyone who wants to dictate what techno should or
>>> shouldn't be. I guess we all forgot our dour faces and dire music poses.
>>> **fart noise**
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM David A. Powers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Techno should aim for a utopian future not wallow in nostalgia for a
>>>> moment in time characterized by late capitalist exploitation and extreme
>>>> global inequality.
>>>>
>>>> ~d
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:20 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else been listening to HAAi? Her latest ep from November is
>>>>> amazingness. Every song. I would dance to it. It makes me feel like I’m at
>>>>> a rave in the late nineties in Chicago or New York.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise Dalphond
>>>>> --
>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> FBK
>>
>> Absoloop/Orange 82
>>
> --
> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> ethnomusicologist
> schoolcraftwax.work
>

Re: HAAi

[Kevin Kennedy]

Denise:  First of all, thanks for sharing work you think is
noteworthy...going to have to give it a listen when I can.

David:  Last I checked, we're still in virtually the same spot that we were
in the dawn of techno...as the saying goes "the names and faces have
changed, but the game is still the same."  However, one of the fine things
missing from many human beings doing the writing, listening and performing
of this music that somehow unifies us all on a giant Venn Diagram
is...ENJOYMENT.

As much as I wish to give the entire group of under-30 somethings a
'history lesson' and shake my fist about how things used to be (a la "they
didn't even let us play in nightclubs!!!  We had to play in warehouses and
inhale asbestos!!!  AND WE LIKED IT!!!"), the prevailing winds dictate that
this revolutionary music that we were on the ground floor for now has a
history.  We're part of that, and as Shake Shakir put it bluntly:  "Those
who know, know.  Those who don't, don't care."

With all the problems in the world today, some people are just looking for
an escape, and a way to remind themselves of times where they had FUN
(anyone remember FUN? I do...vaguely).  Honestly-I wish I could escape from
this crazy place...

It troubles me to think that many of us have truly lost sight of the
enjoyment and the freedom that comes from dancing.  Of course, politics has
its place in everything...strip it away for moments at a time and learn to
enjoy right now.

We ARE the future we planned.  We didn't plan as well as we should have.

Happy holidays to everyone,

FBK


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 2:08 AM DJ Shiva  wrote:

> I surely love anyone who wants to dictate what techno should or shouldn't
> be. I guess we all forgot our dour faces and dire music poses. **fart
> noise**
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 12:28 AM David A. Powers  wrote:
>
>> Techno should aim for a utopian future not wallow in nostalgia for a
>> moment in time characterized by late capitalist exploitation and extreme
>> global inequality.
>>
>> ~d
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:20 AM Denise Dalphond <
>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone else been listening to HAAi? Her latest ep from November is
>>> amazingness. Every song. I would dance to it. It makes me feel like I’m at
>>> a rave in the late nineties in Chicago or New York.
>>>
>>> Denise Dalphond
>>> --
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>
>>

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Ray 7 UR.

[Kevin Kennedy]

313ers:

If you've not heard, Ray 7 is currently hospitalized and fighting for his
life.

I'm sure all of you well-connected people will be able to find the details
regarding this situation, but maybe spare a thought for him and his
family..including his extended family around the world.

I'm deeply saddened by this turn of events, as he was just recently in
Portland prior to my arrival and it was wonderful to make his acquaintance.



-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: Self Promo - Classic Techno Record Label Sticker Pack

[Kevin Kennedy]

I have purchased these in solidarity for techno!

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:30 AM <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> Ps
>
> ;-p
>
> https://bandcamp.com/kato
>
> On 2018-11-21 02:13, Patrick Wacher wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > I have a very limited set of leftover stickers from a personal project
> > I was working on (covering my laptop ;)
> >
> > Packs of 12 1.5" stickers of classic releases on Axis, UR, Hard Wax,
> > DJAX, etc.
> >
> > More details are over on Bandcamp -
> >
> https://southernoutpost.bandcamp.com/merch/classic-techno-labels-sticker-pack-1
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > Patrick.
>
>

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: new subscribers

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi...I'm Kevin M. Kennedy.

Some of the more affiliated of you may know me as FBK or The Sleep
Engineer...and some of you may know me as Powerhouse.

I have a few releases on Detroit labels.  Namely Frictional, Xplor & Soiree.

I hide in plain sight and am friends with many of the legendary folks of
Detroit, and around the world...

I am frequently lurking in the shadows, and sometimes releasing things on
my own digital imprint-Absoloop...

Welcome if you're new...and hope you all have fun here...

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:17 AM John Sokolowski 
wrote:

> I'm Marsel and since I'm 15 I trying to complete my Transmat record
> collection - although since I yet didn't manage to 100% complete it, I
> started a label -
> and now we're doing a re-issue of MS-31 ->
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6196/indio/inca-ep - (although I
> now see we still have track B2 wrong... :-/
>
> Such a great release! Thanks for reissuing it. Speaking of Indio, they
> also have an uber limited release on Rhythmic Tech called "Conquistador."
> Does anyone know if it is available anywhere on the web to listen to? My
> google-fu has come up empty on that one.
>
> oh, and for who didn't notice, Transmat just released three new releases
> this summer - wasn't really impressed to be honest
> and they also did finally a proper re-issue of MS008
>
> I didn't mind the Scan 7 one but to each his or her own! Cheers!
>
>

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

[Kevin Kennedy]

David, without the rest of the world, where would Detroit artists escape to?
I understand what is at the crux of your argument... But I would still
consider that the vitriol comes from the telling of a local story that can
and has been told not only by others, but can be told with a deeper
understanding of the subject.

That's like a biography about your own life story being told with Google
search results and the author never speaks with your friends or family.

I refuse to say that it's OK.  But if we're going to look at RA for a high
standard of academic level journalism...I think we aren't going to find
that.

I am not sure any longer how much I feel about this, I don't speak for
anyone but myself and any reading this should please take a moment to
consider that piece of information.

The truth of the dead is that other people will write your narrative.

And sadly the most odd thing is that there are no 'new' ideas under the
sun... But some enterprising young journalists will always be able to find
an opportunity to rework an old story and make people think of it as a new
one.  "everything is a remix..." isn't just a documentary.

I have no credibility in academia and I barely have credibility in the
world of dance music, though I am rather affiliated with the wonderful
community of Detroit.

However, maybe we should find a way to use what has been another rise in
the activity of this forum for something positive?






On Oct 19, 2018 8:47 AM, "David A. Powers"  wrote:

The irony of this situation is that in the big picture, even if the RA
piece was produced in an unethical manner, it's still a decent introduction
to Drexciya for many people, and in the US nobody has ever heard of
Drexciya. Hell, I doubt many people in Detroit actually know who they are,
trust me, I lived there. People know the song Good Life for sure, and old
Cybotron records, but really people only know the first wave well.

Mad Mike has been clear in his interviews, in that what hurts him most is
that the black community in the US has not embraced techno and that the
music has not been able to play the positive role in the local Detroit
community that he hoped over the long term. I understand the fundamental
vision of UR as one of building local infrastructure so the community could
prosper. There is a strong self-help and DIY ethos. Reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5T0E6iLWhI

The approach to race that I see in UR is to be proud of it, to confront
racial issues directly, but combined with a belief in the universal power
of sound to heal and to build bridges between people.

The real reason you don't have videos coming out of the US and Detroit
about Drexciya with a narrator who is actually from the community, is that
nobody in Detroit actual gives a shit about techno in the US, and this is
nothing new, and so there's literally zero reason to freak out about it in
the year 2018. I live in Austin Tx now after leaving the midwest a year
ago. Almost nobody I have spoken with, black or white, has ever heard of
Detroit techno here. I have to try to explain to people what it is. There
is slightly more familiarity with Chicago House.

In most of the US, nobody has ever heard of "Detroit Techno" and they no
longer have any idea what the term might signify as a genre. Furthermore,
the US is a huge country. Detroit techno is simply one regional style in a
gigantic country full of little regional musical styles. Although it was
vastly important to the development of European dance music, the fact is
that the US does not support musicians, and all musicians in the US
struggle, even before you consider race. The average income for a full time
musician in the US is $20,000.

By the way, this is why it is vital for all musicians to work together to
build our own infrastructure and work together to create sustainable
solutions. As inspiring as UR is, it has not turned out to be a long term
sustainable business model. Part of the problem really does seem to be the
lack of local support of the music, because to run a sustainable local
business you don't want all your customers to live on the other side of the
planet.

The real hard work of the future is in getting our hands dirty and building
sustainable infrastructure from the ground up for the long term, that is
resilient enough to withstand the next 100 years of slow energy descent as
fossil fuels run out and we experience further instability due to the
shifting climate.

I want to offer a strong plea to all musicians and producers on this list
to work together for the long term to create this kind of sustainable
infrastructure, and actively work to build the community of musicians,
especially if you are in the US. And anyone has any great ideas, I'd love
to hear them. Nobody is going to create our future for us, if we don't
build it, there won't be a future... A lot of people are losing their minds
right now engaging in useless debates, but there is real work to be done
and there is 

Re: UR Bandcamp

[Kevin Kennedy]

I think it's a lot like every other thing that happens with UR... Fanfare,
 noise,  Information. Then a waiting period.   I have a hope that their
bandcamp page would be the biggest success for Mike and company...

On Sep 15, 2017 9:54 AM, "Aidan O'Doherty" 
wrote:

> There were communications about UR releasing their backcatalogue digitally
> on Bandcamp - does anyone know if there has been further progress on this?
> There is UR Bandcamp page but nothing on it as of yet.
>
> Thsnks,
> Aidan
>

Re: Female Producers

[Kevin Kennedy]

None of the producers I mentioned are Detroit based,  but all are American
and quite good at their craft.

On Aug 18, 2017 11:09 AM, "Joe Marougi" <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 313 producers only?
>
> If not, Peggy Gou and Cinthie Crystal.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 8:02 AM Kevin Kennedy <the...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Patricia Wolf,  formerly of the group Soft Metals... Also Noncompliant,
>>  aka Lisa Smith... And also Dr. Melissa Sleep...
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2017 5:37 AM, "Marsel van der Wielen" <mar...@nomorewords.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> no, that's a boy
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Op 18-Aug-17 om 10:43 schreef 3...@coke-smyth.net:
>>
>> Can I also add Fatima Yamaha?
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>> On 2017-08-17 20:55, kent williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> Karen Gwyer! Laurel Halo.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jana Rush
>>>>> JLin
>>>>> Annika Winkler
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:38 AM <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooly G
>>>>>> DJ Genesis
>>>>>> Jenifa Mananja
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else to be scoping...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: Female Producers

[Kevin Kennedy]

Patricia Wolf,  formerly of the group Soft Metals... Also Noncompliant,
 aka Lisa Smith... And also Dr. Melissa Sleep...

On Aug 18, 2017 5:37 AM, "Marsel van der Wielen" 
wrote:

no, that's a boy

:-)


Op 18-Aug-17 om 10:43 schreef 3...@coke-smyth.net:

Can I also add Fatima Yamaha?
>
> C
>
> On 2017-08-17 20:55, kent williams wrote:
>
>> Karen Gwyer! Laurel Halo.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM kent williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jana Rush
>>> JLin
>>> Annika Winkler
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:38 AM <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cooly G
 DJ Genesis
 Jenifa Mananja

 Anyone else to be scoping...?

 cheers

 C

>>>
>

RE: Metroplex re-issues

[Kevin Kennedy]

Yawn.  Only if night drive through Babylon gets a remaster, I'll keep my copy I 
got from shake.  

   but, it might make sense to revisit the early catalog for those who might 
have missed out...

-Original Message-
From: "Patrick Wacher" 
Sent: ‎3/‎15/‎2016 12:00 AM
To: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Metroplex re-issues

http://www.factmag.com/2016/03/14/juan-atkins-model-500-robert-hood-metroplex-reissues/

- Patrick.

A new fbk release on vinyl!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi all...https://clone.nl/item38134.html

FBK on Barba...with remix by Plural and Terrence Dixonthought you all
may like.

Cheers!


-- 
FBK

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Re: New Vinyl from Detroit / Berlin

[Kevin Kennedy]

Very nice.  Congratulations on the release!

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:13 PM, David A. Powers  wrote:
> 
> ... and my first release under my new Alias PAD.
> Representing Detroit, we have Andy Garcia, Keith Kemp, and myself.
> Representing Berlin, Sierra Sam and Pascal Hetzel. Check it out!
> 
> https://clone.nl/item38924.html

Re: New E-Dancer release from KMS

[Kevin Kennedy]

Sounds like what I would expect an E-dancer tune to sound like, 17 years
removed.  The club circuit will love it, as well as about 50% of the
'heads'...the ones who don't like it would expect more from Mr. Saunderson.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:44 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
wrote:

 What do you think?

 https://soundcloud.com/kevinsaunderson/kevin-saunderson-as-e-dancer-foundation




-- 
FBK

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Re: Dan Cortez

[Kevin Kennedy]

 Was waiting for this to hit our list:

313:  We know drama!



On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:24 AM, graham.willi...@shell.com wrote:

 Does anyone remember Dan Cortez; he appeared briefly on the list a few
 years ago before Kent banned him.


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2795937/king-lionheart-stalker-bombarded-lindsay-lohan-1-000-texts-punched-bouncer-stopped-getting-west-end-rehearsal.html

 g




-- 
FBK

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New Metroplex on Pre-order!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hey all:

There's a new metroplex record by Plural (aka James Johnson) called
Shifting Forward.

I've heard it, think it's fantastic...and possibly the best Metroplex
release in quite some time.  Thoughts?

http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_detailed.php?item=75022

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Something good from a 313 member?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hey all:

 Thought I'd say hello to everyone and also speak of something I'm
quite excited to be part of.  As FBK, my track It's not the point has
been featured on Marcel Dettman's mix for Fabric 77...and is also slated
for vinyl release as well on MDR.  Rob Hood (as Floorplan) also featured on
the mix as well!

 To me, this is good news, and I'm happy to be involved in something of
this nature, the link below has clips of the tracks on the mix-from what I
hear, it's going to be a good one!

Cheers and I'm happy to see sharing of great releases on the list!

http://www.fabriclondon.com/store/fabric-77.html

-- 
FBK

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RE: (313) Population One returns to Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

Wait till the release after drops...td's is great!!!

-Original Message-
From: Ken k...@bleep43.com
Sent: ‎6/‎13/‎2014 4:24 PM
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Population One returns to Metroplex

More new Terrence Dixon action.  


‎If this is his regular output in 'retirement', long may it continue. 


Ken


http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=5607cat=0page=
‎ 

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Kevin Kennedy]

I really don't have an opinion on what TP is doing...but I do have a couple
of thoughts

One-as I have also had the opportunity to perform with, and talk with
Terrence...I don't find him to be a 'superstar' dj...I find him to be
almost a total square peg.  To me, that doesn't matter much.  As I have
been following this, I've had a couple of feelings about it.  One-many
people enjoy kicking you while you're down.  And, two:  This music business
has always been a game played by people with honest hearts against those
who would rather eat your heart for breakfast.

My hope is that he'll tell us all the story in some public way (whether
he 'makes his goal' or not).  I believe it could be a great cautionary
tale-because some kid with a good ear and stars in their eyes needs to know
that this business and life have a dark side.  I've lived the good times
and the bad in music, and can say with great talent comes great pain.

I refuse to trash TP publicly.  I do think that on its face this issue
looks horrible for him and his 'image.'  As a believer in God, it also can
be difficult for the non-secular among us to not think of Televangelists
begging for money before 'God calls me home.'  I only hope that he is able
to make a resolution.

Personally-I've been homeless TWICE, lost 75% of my records, all my
memorabilia and two different hardware studio setups already...and I've
never, NEVER been able to find an agent willing to work for me.  One day it
may happen.

However you look at this situation-it's really quite sad and painful to
watch.  If you like being uncomfortable, it's a great drama.

I'll keep my eyes on something more positive instead.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheers Kent.


 2014-04-30 19:10 GMT+02:00 kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com:

 LIke I said, I have no idea what happened with Terrence, and people who
 are professionals should show up when they're expected and do what they do.
  Missing gigs as a DJ is really hard to live down.  As an example, Paul
 Johnson got a reputation as a no show, and I think that it still effects
 the number and quality of bookings he gets to this day.

 I just want people to know that whatever happened, TP is a human being
 too.  There's a tendency -- and I'm not accusing anyone on this list per se
 -- to pile on when someone's down, and I couldn't see it happen to someone
 I know and respect and hold my tongue.



 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Lerato Khati 
 booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com wrote:

 very sad to hear about TP's personal circumstances and i wish him all
 the best .
 i do wish though that the issue with the promoters was handled a bit
 better . most promoters are actually reasonable . you do get idiots same as
 in any other job but i do believe that when you give good reasons for
 canceling shows to promoters and give them time to find a replacement dj
 and working on solutions with them then a good way can be found in
 resolving issues . i work with mainly american dj's . 1 of those dj's had
 to cancel a whole tour of 10 dates last december as his mom was out of the
 blue , diagnosed with a terminal illness and he just wanted to go home ,
 understandably so  . i immediately reached out to promoters and asked the
 said dj to also publish a formal statement apologizing to fans who had
 already purchased tickets for some of those shows . 100 % of the promoters
 were very supportive . we managed to reschedule all of the shows .

 i heard that 1 of the promoters involved in the TP situation went as far
 as the airport and he was nowhere to be seen . they got an email that
 evening saying he could not make it and they feel that they were not even
 afforded a valid reason for the no show !

 my biggest worry with this situation is that , this  fallout will impact
  other dj's - just because they happen to be american . when i started
 working with dj's beginning of 2008 . i approached several known clubs in
 europe and as soon as they realized that i was working with mainly american
 dj's some went as far as to say that they simply are not comfortable with
 working with american dj's because they come with problems . i.e. , not
 showing up for gigs and general attitude problems .

 i feel in the last few yrs we turned a corner in changing that
 perception . it would be a big shame if we go back to the same situation
 that clubs do not want to book dj's based on a few not fulfilling their
 obligations .


 On 30 April 2014 18:33, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Starting in about 1998, the promotion crew I was involved in, Rotation
 (Iowa City) brought Terrence Parker to play shows in Iowa City. We brought
 him in at least 5 times.  Since then, other Iowa City promoters brought him
 4 or 5 more times. The last time he played here was IIRC 2012.

 Throughout that period, TP was the gold standard of 'name' DJs coming
 through -- he always showed up, he always drew 

RE: (313) New Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

Besides the TD release, James Johnson (plural) has a release slated for 
metroplex as wellI've heard that one and it's FANTASTIC!  

Hi everyone!

-Original Message-
From: jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎28/‎2014 1:00 PM
To: Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) New Metroplex

Yeah. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming in the days leading up to 
movement. I'm wondering out loud if the news of this release got buried in the 
announcement of Mr. Dixon's pending retirement from the dance music game? Full 
disclosure,  I'm being selfish, I want more quality music from all that are 
either involved, or yet to be involved with this wonderful thing we call techno.
Viva la Metroplex!

Jwan
On Apr 28, 2014 12:49 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw a new Metroplex pop up on Rush Hour: 
http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=75019


Was pleasantly surprised to see the label is back with a couple of great tracks 
from Population One. 


Had no idea Juan was reviving it, any further details around it's relaunch?


- Patrick.

Fwd: (313) Mayday

[Kevin Kennedy]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Mayday
To: ... ohana...@gmail.com


 Bach is also dead, and not teasing his fans with the promise of new work.
Not even close to my thought process.  Try again tomorrow.
 --
From: ... ohana...@gmail.com
Sent: 4/1/2014 3:03 PM
To: Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com
Cc: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com; jrsokolow...@hotmail.com; Weston
Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz; list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Mayday

According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released
anything in nearly 3 centuries.

great logic

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
 How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
 released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think he's a
 fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
 small opinion.

 Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
 making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
 project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').


 Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)

 Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that have
 the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one on
the
 Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?


 2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)


 - Reply message -
 From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
 Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Mayday
 Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM


 Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
 http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)


 2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:

 Interesting news...



http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/

 Cheers,

 Wes
 http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/




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 FBK

 Absoloop/Orange 82



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FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Mayday

[Kevin Kennedy]

How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think he's a
fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
small opinion.

Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').


Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)

 Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that have
 the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one on the
 Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?


 2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com 
 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)


 - Reply message -
 From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
 Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Mayday
 Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM


 Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
 http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)


 2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:

 Interesting news...


 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/

 Cheers,

 Wes
 http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/




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FBK

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(313) FBK on Bandcamp? Sure...since we all have to do something...

[Kevin Kennedy]

Just thought I would share this link 313ers...you may find something you
like...make your next set special...by the way...this ep is only available
until 1/2/14.

   http://absoloop.bandcamp.com/

Have a happy holiday people...

New release on this site will arrive soon.
-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Return to a free DEMF on July 4th?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Carol Marvin.  That is all.  She once chastised me in a public forum for
saying DEMF and not saying Movement.  I've moved on.


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why the hell will anyone want to pay $250 + for this? $1200 for VIP? The
 fuck?

 Am I missing something or is this as stupid as it sounds on first look?

 -Arturo






 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Chris Czub ashgromn...@gmail.comwrote:

 put your pants back on, folks... i got excited too, but the main event at
 ford field is $250:


 http://www.detroitlions.com/schedule-and-events/event/federation-electronic-music-technology/1ed02f04-6055-4c8f-b0d9-76ed00e6a1eb

 who  knows what the free event will be


 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM, jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.comwrote:

 Personally, I'm in a wait and see mode, let's see what the line-up at
 both venues will be and go from there. I'm hoping they've taken some
 notes from what paxahau has done over the years in terms of logistics,
 which has made it easier for those coming from a great distance to
 plan accordingly. We've been spoiled, we can drive up to the D at a
 moments notice being only a 4.5 hr drive away. Which I feel is the
 limit on any last minute preparations.

 While I believe competition is a great thing at the end of the day,
 I'm just curious how 3 major music festivals occurring within weeks of
 each other are going to handle artists bookings. Will any of them
 attempt to coerce an artist into an exclusivity spring/summer
 booking, etc. Rather than continue with endless speculation, I'll just
 wait and see and keep an eye on my shorecrest reservations.

 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 http://www.realdetroitweekly.com/detroit/united-we-dance/Content?oid=1598294
 
  What say you, 313 listers?
 
  -Arturo
 
 



 --
 Technoir Audio
 http://www.technoiraudio.com
 dealing with your imperfect world






-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) DJ Marvin - UR?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Can we just say no and then say it's Juan's Nephew under an assumed name?
 Oh...stop...I'm kidding.

If he's from the UK and was entering into Muzik magazine competitions
starting in 1999...I am going to say-NOPE.

But I could be wrong as all heck.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.auwrote:

 Hi guys,

 Just wanted to ask if DJ Marvin is actually affiliated with UR?

 https://soundcloud.com/marvin_ur040

 Peace

 Ed612313




-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Received a new demo today (says he's from Detroit?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Ken,

  I think that this music is not only hilarious, but it also speaks to
something that may actually be important to note.  I'll explain.

In our lovely internet generation we are able to share world wide events
with people world wide.  The internet is also becoming a repository of old
historical items that seem to have little or no significance to our modern
world, yet are unusual or tell a story about a time that has past.

There are things that are far too unique to pass up and NOT share with
others.  Sometimes the key to comedy is surprise.

What tends to make a song like the ones on Prasanth's Bandcamp page funny
or even 'strange' are numerous-I'll highlight my thoughts:

1. It is on the internet.  The world wide web.  This
musician/videographer/artist can be searched for, and he can search for
others to share his music.
2.  If Prasanth is attempting to appeal to an American or European
audience, he has the ability with the WWW to listen, view, and search for
items that are trending, or even what those in pop would sound or look
like.  Not saying this is his intent however.
3.  He has a 50 minute movie on Youtube-where he lists himself as doing
EVERYTHING.  The man has _some_ talent, however it's not something that we
here in our insulated little bubble can appreciate (boxer Manny Pacquiao is
a pop star in the Phillipines-and I think that Prasanth's voice is about as
good as Manny's).


and...

   For those of us who are creative souls; those of us who work tirelessly
on creating music and compositions and are trying like heck to get our
voices and sounds heard and played-many of us realize that a track like
this one illustrates a great point.  Not all of us are born musical genius.
 Sometimes what sounds great in the studio or starts off as a great idea
can fall flat everywhere else.  And, for those of us who have failed at
times (one of the meanings of FBK is Failures By Kevin)...we like to know
that we aren't alone.

For these reasons, it's worth listening to, and sharing with others.
 It brightened my day.  I had a great laugh with one of my producer friends
over it.  I'll point out that there are parts of the recording that are
good as well!

Music is polarizing.  It's not always created to make you think.  Or make
us dance wildly on the floor, or even make us cry.  Music encompasses the
entire range of human emotion, and listening to this made me feel
something.  It may not be what the artist intended me to feel, however it
did more than most of what I hear on Beatport does-which is to say that it
grabbed my attention enough to listen to the whole 4.5 minutes.

Please, let's not take life so dang seriously...there's time and music for
that...Sometimes you have to hear bad to be able to compare what is good.

end rant


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Martin mar...@dustscience.com wrote:

 It still better than anything in Beatports charts and I kinda like
 outsider music and people who have a go.

 m

 On 22 Jun 2013, at 04:45, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

  This is actually not cool folks.
  How about dropping it?
  It's probably enough to decide that the guy's track is not very well
 done [or not to your taste] and to leave it at that.
 
  K
 




-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) New Track

[Kevin Kennedy]

Tim,

   I just followed you on Soundcloud.  I like the track, and would
definitely play it.  You switch it up on the beat, I dig it...PLEASE KEEP
WORKING.  Good, good good!


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Tim Morrison tim.morrison...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys,

 I'm a little nervous putting this up with a lot of heads in the know...

 Hoping you think this is a little better than what Joe received recently
 haha.

 https://soundcloud.com/nikefootwork/002-1

 I made this tune the other day and would appreciate some feedback.

 Cheers,

 Tim





-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

(313) Recent works by FBK and small developments...

[Kevin Kennedy]

I try to keep this list as spam/listentomydemo/buymytrack free as
possible...but since we've started sharing MUSIC again (which I am very
happy about)...I thought I'd share some items.

First of all, if you are on the list and enjoy banging techno or dark
semi-melodic dance works...you should possibly follow www.soundcloud.com/fbk


Here's a direct link to something that is quite minimal and came from
nowhere in a days session...https://soundcloud.com/fbk/fbk-setitfree

Again, I hope that all are well, and cheers...

Oh..and if you'd like to know about what we've been doing at the absoloop
organizationhere's a list of things that are available in the digital
shops...

http://www.beatport.com/label/absoloop-orange-82/24645

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Received a new demo today (says he's from Detroit?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Not only is this confusing as all-get-out...but...Joe...srsly???  I know
not srsly!  I want the a capella!


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah I noticed!  Can't wait to see the one he said he was gonna make for
 me.  I'm just trying to decide whether I want Wilhite or Delano to remix it
 ;)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:31 PM, James Fisher james_fis...@mac.com wrote:

  He has a stunning video over on YouTube
 
  J
 
  On 21 Jun 2013, at 18:42, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well, let's see...I just asked him to make a video
 
  On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  It's a slow burner!
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Ronny Pries r...@rohformat.de wrote:
 
  Wow. The last time i listened to a track which sounded like 3 that
 weren't
  matched at all i was actually listening to Autechre live. But it was
 sort
  of different?
 
  Hilarious! Made my day.
 
  Am 20.06.2013 um 22:48 schrieb Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com:
 
  He's looking for a label but my schedule is full, any takers?
 
  http://prasanthakurathi.bandcamp.com/
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 




-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

RE: (313) movement represent

[Kevin Kennedy]

Fbk is likely lurking around, wearing an absoloop t shirt and wearing
orange :)

Sent from my Windows Phone
--
From: Lori Polemenakos
Sent: 5/26/2013 3:42 PM
To: Fred Heutte
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) movement represent

Dave Clarke had the set of the night, IMO.

On Sunday, May 26, 2013, Fred Heutte wrote:

 How y'all feeling out there?

 Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that
 Mr. Earle is in the house...

 Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller.
 Mr. Parker, playing the classics.  But the difference
 between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs,
 and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special.  He was
 on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather.

 Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre
 state).  Nuff said.

 The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there
 was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night.

 See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no
 way back, at all...

 fh
 503.757-6222

Re: (313) Andrew Duke In The Mix #2707 w/ Dan Sicko interview #RIP

[Kevin Kennedy]

Why thank you Andrew!  Cheers!  The tracklisting for this mix LOOKS
OUTSTANDING!  Umbilicus is one of my favorite Rudiman tracks...Cheers and
thanks for sharing!



On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Andrew Duke In The Mix/Cognition
Audioworks andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andrew Duke In The Mix #2707 (w/ Dan Sicko interview #RIP)

 Hour One:
 01 X-101--Sonic Destroyer; Rave New World/Sonic Destroyer (Underground
 Resistance UR 13.5)
 __ Esteban Adame ID (Ican Productions, Underground Quality, Motech)
 02 Juan Atkins--Techno Music; Techno: The New Dance Sound Of Detroit
 compilation (Virgin)
 03 Kevin Saunderson--Pump The Move (Samuel L Session remix); History
 Elevate 2 (Planet E PE65295)
 04 Kevin Saunderson--Rock To The Beat (Ben Sims remix); History Elevate
 (KMS)
 05 K-Hand--Dusty (Andrew Duke remix) (Gorsch)
 06 Juan Atkins  Moritz Von Oswald--Treehouse; Borderland (Tresor 262)
 07 Inner City--Future (Carl Craig's C2 edit); Future (Defected)
 08 Carl Craig's Paperclip People--Remake (Basic Channel's Basic Reshape)
 (Basic Channel BCD-2)
 09 Jeff Mills--Breaking Through The Inner Wall; Fantastic Voyage (Axis
 CD044)
 __ FBK ID (Absoloop, Diametric, Frictional)
 10 Andrew Duke--Geisha (Terrence Dixon remix); Geisha (Nice  Nasty NANO96)
 11 Fix (Orlando Voorn)--Juice; Dr Technofunkenstein (Nite Vision NV021)
 12 X-313 (Alan Oldham)--Uncanny; Digital Sects 2 compilation (Matrix
 MR1009)
 13 DJ T-1000--Drums And Weapons; Drums And Weapons (Pure Sonic PURE24)
 14 Terrence Dixon--Untitled 3; Lost At Sea (Surface SFTDX001)
 15 Andrew Duke--Maiko (Orlando Voorn dub); Maiko (Nice  Nasty NANO91)
 16 Purveyors Of Fine Funk (Dan Curtin  ?)--How Dark Is Your Deepness; How
 Dark Is Your Deepness (Bass Culture BCR031)
 17 FBK--Impasse Resolution Theorem (unreleased)
 18 Shawn Rudiman--Umbilicus; Monolithic Soul: Installment III (Detroit
 Techno Militia DTMD007)
 19 Jason Skilz--Transmit-1988 (Spins  Needles)
 20 The Black Dog--Bleep Five; The Return Ov Bleep (Dust Science DUSTV036)

 Hour Two:
 __ Mike Agent-X Clark ID (Strictly Beatdown, Planet E, Night Grooves)
 01 Neville Watson--Songs To Elevate Pure Hearts; Songs To Elevate Pure
 Hearts (Creme Organization CREMELP-010)
 02 Cromie  Sage Caswell--Vines (Kyle Hall remix); Vines/Pyrex (Peach 001)
 03 XDB--Frocks (Patrice Scott); Frocks (Sistrum SIS020)
 04 Kuba--On The Sky; Chinatown (Matrix 24)
 05 Gari Romalis--Detroit Shuffle (Quick Step C mix); The No Left Beat
 Behind (Hizou Deeply Rooted 004)
 06 Lady Blacktronika--Love  Desire (2013 Nu Garage mix); Jackmaster Cunt
 (Sound Black 005)
 07 Project01--01; Project01 (Nsyde 006)
 08 Erell Ranson--When The Sea Turns Black (Carlos Nilmmns Live Tangent
 mix); When The Sea Turns Black remixes (Nice  Nasty NANO121)
 09 Syrinx--Jet Stream; Beyond (Science Label SL0010)
 10 R-A-G--Plenum (Inner mix); Vacuum (MOS Deep 016)
 11 Blaktony--The Vortex Room (Club Scene); Johnny Gambit: Music Inspired
 By The Graphic Novel (Pure Sonic PURE18POINT5)
 12 Erdbeerschnitzel--Cushion; Cushion (Delsin dsr-h6)
 13 Andy Vaz--Stubnitz (Memory Foundation remix); 7 Inches Of Straight
 Vacationing Part 2 (Yore 000.1/7)

 from the show archives, an interview with the late Dan Sicko, Techno
 Rebels author (last 15 minutes of this show)
 __Mad Mike Banks ID (Underground Resistance)
 01 Reese  Santonio (Kevin Saunderson  Santonio Echols)--Truth Of Self
 Evidence (KMS)
 02 Cybotron (Juan Atkins  3070)--Cosmic Raindance; Enter (Fantasy)
 03 Rhythim Is Rhythim (Derrick May)--Move It (Only mix); Nude Photo
 (Transmat)
 04 Galaxy 2 Galaxy (Mike Banks)--Journey Of The Dragons; UR-25 (UR)
 05 Basic Channel (Mark Ernestus  Moritz Von Oswald)--Radiance; BC8 (Basic
 Channel)
 06 Moodymann (Kenny Dixon Jr.)--I Can't Kick This Feelin' When It Hits
 (KDJ)
 (all material in this section of the program was selected by Dan Sicko)

 https://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio/sets/
 andrew-duke-in-the-mix




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FBK

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(313) Some mix by some random 313 posting guy/lurker...

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hey everyone:

I wanted to share with you all the podcast that I did for the Droid
Behavior gentlemen in California.

I was having a good time in the studio, just playing tracks and
all...hope you'll like it...full of crazy mixes and unreleased FBK works...

Cheers, and find the link below...

http://www.droidbehavior.com/blog/2013/03/d-node-193-fbk-orange82/

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FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

RE: (313) I guess the HTML bouncer is dead.

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hilarious.  Best 313 post all year!

Sent from my Windows Phone
--
From: kent williams
Sent: 3/31/2013 4:52 PM
To: list 313
Subject: (313) I guess the HTML bouncer is dead.

Just noticed that I inadvertently sent a message to the list that is
multi-part MIME with HTML.  These are supposed to bounce.  That apparently
isn't working.

So... please don't start sending yellow text on white, or a load of comic
sans verbiage about Skrillex and Richie Hawtin getting gay married.

Re: (313) new mixshow/podcast now online to DL/stream

[Kevin Kennedy]

We love ya Andrew Duke!  cheers!

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:58 AM, andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com 
andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. Feels great to be back in the mix again, Denise.
 Really enjoy your blog. Take care. Andrew

 On 2013-03-28, at 1:01 AM, Denise Dalphond denisedalph...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Andrew. Very nice!


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new
 email address andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote:

 mixshow/podcast #2702 tracklisting [(artist--song title (version);
 release (label  catalog number)]:

 01 Donnie--Olmec Save Us (Osunlade's Yoruba Soul mix); Olmec Save Us
 (NDATL Muzik NDALT009)
 02 Rick Wade--With Me; With Me (Little Angel LAR036)
 03 R-Zone--Houz Nation; R-Zone 01 (R-Zone 01)
 04 Universal Principles--Latin Stroll (Niko Marks  Carlos Nilmmns
 remix); C'Est Bon (U2X)
 05 Graze (Adam Marshall  XI)--No Save; Graze (New Kanada NK42)
 06 Kevin Reynolds--Favis (Santiago Salazar's Southwest Detroit mix);
 Favis (Tochai TDH002)
 07 Jimi After--Rachel's Theme; Exile In Data (Days Of Being Wild WILD017)
 08 Denis Clifford--Easter Island (Carabas remix); Easter Island
 (Bumako; BU-M022)
 09 D-Ribeiro--The Circus; The Circus (Syncom Data SD28)
 10 Juju  Jordash--Track David Would Play; Techno Primitivism
 (Dekmantel DKMNTL011)
 11 John Beltran--Second Summer (version 2); Amazing Things (Delsin 98dsr)
 12 Moko's Vibe--Good Times; Mirage (Logos LOGOS048)
 13 Fort Romeau--SW9 (Lowtec remix); SW9 (Spectral Sound SPC112)
 14 Andrew Duke--Geisha (Claude Young remix); Geisha (Nice  Nasty NAN096)
 15 Ed Davenport presents: Inland--Solstice; Solstice (Counterchange 001)
 16 DJ T-1000--Deep Like Delano; Drums And Weapons (Pure Sonic PURE24)
 17 Andreas Zead--Echoes Of Yesterday (Erell Ranson remix); Echoes Of
 Yesterday (Science Label SL009)
 18 Scan 7--Recent Pass; Elephanthaus Records: 15 Years Of Techno
 compilation (Elephanthaus ER37)
 19 ESHU--Iodine; Bromine (Space SPC04)
 20 Portable--Albatross (Anthony Shakir remix); Albatross (Süd Electronic
 SUD013)
 21 FBK--2 Tracks And A Dat; unreleased
 22 Tony Ollivierra--It's Already Tomorrow; It's Already Tomorrow
 (Northside District NSD001)
 23 Contakt--Tessera 04 (Robert Hood remix); Nobody Else (Icee Hot IH004)
 24 JGarrett--Spring (Tim Baker's South Seventh mix); Spring Joint Coil
 (Subspec SUB012)
 25 65d Mavericks--Estrangement Of The Past (Surgeon remix);
 Estrangement Of The Past (Surface SFLTD003)
 26 Rock Dadier--Dansez Avec Moi (Pacou remix); Lost Archives II split
 w/ Makam (Indigo Aera Aeara007.2)
 27 The Black Dog--Broken Mind (Regis remix); Darkhaus Volume 2 (Dust
 Science DUSTV037)

 listen:

 https://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio/sets/andrew-duke-in-the-mix-mixshow

 show archives:
 http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html

 Thanks for listening!
 Andrew

 http://www.twitter.com/andrewduke_cog
 http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj/andrewduke
 http://www.beatport.com/artist/andrew-duke/16179
 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Duke
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewdukecognitionaudioworks
 https://new.myspace.com/andrewduke




 --
 Denise Dalphond
 www.schoolcraftwax.com




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Re: (313) New automaker in Detroit

[Kevin Kennedy]

What I can see of the outline looks very corvette like?  But I could be
wrong...like the logo.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new email
address andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool looking car (at least what we can see of it) and logo.

 @andrewduke_cog
 http://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio
 https://new.myspace.com/andrewduke



 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Christian H cjh4...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not music, but still interesting to see that people want to start
  producing cars in Detroit-area again:
 
  http://www.gizmag.com/detroit-electric-returns/26722/




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Re: (313) history always favours the winners

[Kevin Kennedy]

there are still a few of us African-American types working in dance
music...most of us are not caring about being 'accepted' by our brothers
and sisters who are in the mainstream.  However, it's even harder to get
people on this very list to have a discussion about 313 or 313 related
music unless there is a bit of sensationalism involved, like mentioning
skrilldx.

   I joined the list years ago because I hoped that I would find like
minded people here.  and I have.  But I really wish that there could be a
tad bit more interaction without mentioning richie, sonny, boyz, or
mnml...or for pete's sake...e d m.

 The posts that I have seen that have generated the most response seem
to be along the lines of this one...and maybe I'm not posting enough
either...considering that I have many wonderful things going on at the
moment.

I am not admonishing anyone, just noticing a trend and speaking on
it...I'm going back to my room.

cheers,



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:14 PM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:

 Marcellus Pittman's album Pieces is pretty good.  At times I feel like
 the wool is being pulled over my eyes, but I don't mind it too much.

 I've been meaning to say for a while now that Terrence Dixon's latest
 release is really fabulous!  I've been playing this one quite a bit!!

 Juan Atkin's release on Scion Audio Visual is the best I've heard from him
 in a while.  The remixes are good, but the originals remind me of why I get
 excited to see something new from him.


 On 3/4/2013 2:20 PM, David Powers wrote:

 All the house guys in Detroit are consistently putting out quality
 music (your subjective enjoyment may vary of course):
 Delano Smith
 Norm Tally
 Mike Huckaby
 Rick Wade
 Rick Wilhite
 Moodymann
 Marcellus Pittman
 Theo Parrish
 Scott Grooves
 Kyle Hall
 Omar S

 Plus, had good (proper techno) albums from Robert Hood and Terrence
 Dixon recently. That seems like a pretty high amount of activity as
 far as I'm concerned. And this list isn't nearly complete.

 ~David

 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Back when 313 list was more active, there were a lot more subscribers
 actually in the Detroit area, who were wired into what was going on,
 and would post about it.  I imagine there's good music happening in
 Detroit that we aren't hearing about on this list because that is no
 longer the case.

 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com
 wrote:


 On 4 Mar 2013, at 16:16, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

  That was my earlier point way back on this thread. To recap: EDM? Who
 cares?
 Not everyone shares that sentiment though.


 Aye, you can see why people bite and it can be good fun but I'd be more
 worried about the lack of good tunes coming out of Detroit than anything
 Sonny or Boy To Noize said.

 m


 --
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RE: (313) List Metacriticism

[Kevin Kennedy]

That was one point I made. I do not post often enough. Thanks :)

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: kent williams
Sent: 3/5/2013 3:02 PM
To: list 313
Subject: (313) List Metacriticism
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, it's even harder to get people on this very list to have a discussion
 about 313 or 313 related music unless there is a bit of sensationalism 
 involved,
 like mentioning skrilldx.

Part of what can make a mailing list interresting and relevant is to
balance the need to stay on topic and the need to let discussions go
where they will.

There is no moderator for 313, and my status as list administrator is
mostly a clerical job -- I approve new subscribers when they request
it and help troubleshoot e-mail problems with people when they arrive.
 I do have an affection for the list and its subscribers that makes me
want to do what I can to keep it healthy.

I think that when the list was more lively than it is now, it was
because there were more people on the list actually involved in making
the music we were discussing, or working at labels, or promoting
events; it drew people that were fans closer in to the music, and in a
lot of cases people who started out as 'just' fans became producers or
DJs or event promoters because of the inspiration provided by reading
the 313 list.

So if you want more discussion, start more discussions.

Re: (313) releases of the year

[Kevin Kennedy]

Wow...this is the first list I've seen my release on:)  thank you!  I'm
glad that you enjoyed it, I did...

Cheers and have a happy new year!

Kevin Kennedy (FBK)



On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:28 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:

 Here's my top 10 (11)...

 FBK - Antithesis EP
 Soul 223 - Almost Like It Used To Be
 Tevo Howard - Summer Romance
 Electric Street Orchestra - Scorpio / M.F.A.
 Hieroglyphic Being - Shikaakwa
 Transllusion - L.I.F.E. (Rephlex)
 Fhloston Paradigm - Chasing Rainbows
 Mark Ernestus presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa
 Nekh
 Four Tet - 128 Harps
 Ultramarine #8206;– Find A Way
 Phaedra #8206;– The Sea

 Transllusion isn't new but it sounds fresh and its nice to save some
 Drexicya for future listening. FBK's release is pretty solid all round, as
 is Soul 223 on a beat down tip and more slow house on SOTU with Tevo
 Howard. Shikaakwa to me is 'good' hieroglyphic, not too noodley. Fhloston
 Paradigm is a King Britt project on Hyperdub. Don't like dubstep but have
 time for this label. Jeri-Jeri is awesome African percussion business and
 plays like its well mastered. Some of these I havent listened too enough,
 but these are the purchases Im most pleased with this year...

 cheers

 C

  so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced
  or just plain good)?
 
  the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.
 
 





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Re: (313) Ask 313

[Kevin Kennedy]

How about FBK on Diametric...since it's 313 related and nobody on the list
will ever talk about it except me?  :)

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Matt Kane's Brain 
mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:

 IRIDITE. The only time I ever wrote a sappy drunk email it was to Jason
 Brunton.

 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to
 the list ...

 This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do.  Here's the question: What is
 your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly?

 Extra points for being obscure.

 What's my impetus?  I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from
 crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago.  I look
 for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists.  So I
 have a lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that
 for one reason or another never got much enduring attention.

 Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those
 sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage.




 --
 matt kane's brain
 http://hydrogenproject.com




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Re: (313) roll call?

[Kevin Kennedy]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wasn't here at the very beginning but pretty sure I joined at the
 prompting of Aran Parillo, who dropped off several years ago, despite being
 the early champion and expert on all things Drexciya.

 I think that the quietude of the 313 list stems from a couple of causes:

 1. Competition from other social web thingers -- Facebook, Message Boards,
 etc.

 2. Deaths in the family. Several valued former 313-ers are no longer with
 us.

 3. Detroit Techno itself.  It isn't dead, but the period from 1985-2000
 was a big upheaval, corresponding almost exactly to the rise of the
 Internet.  There are still people in and around Detroit making music, and
 even more around the world who can legitimately claim to be inspired by
 Detroit, but the focus and urgency of the early years is no longer there.

 4. Aging of the audience.  It happens at different points in everyone's
 life, but there comes a time when a good night's sleep starts winning out
 over standing in an unheated warehouse in the dark, losing your hearing one
 kick drum at a time.  Juan Atkins turns 50, Kevin Saunderson 48, Derrick
 May 49.

 Think about it. The Belleville 3 are at the same chronological point in
 their careers where the Beach Boys were in the 1990s.  Or to put it another
 way,  in the mid-80s, when Techno was getting going, 30 years prior was
 Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Elvis.

 The fact is, despite its pervasive influence, it is not a music to which
 many 16 and 17-year-olds connect with. Older people aging out of the Techno
 tribe are not being replaced by new recruits.

 Which is one reason I'm a huge admirer of Mike Huckaby's educational
 efforts.  He is a living link between the past of Techno and the kids that
 are potentially its future.


 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Danielle Scott ellei...@gmail.comwrote:

 Still lurkung here too!
 On 2012-11-28 9:16 AM, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

 Anyone else?

 m50


 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:

 how many subscribers are left anyway?

 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:

 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's
 good to be back!




oh...here...:)


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(313) Something for all the heads on the list: A live recording of improvised techno!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi 313 peoples.

   As I am certain you are aware that I normally don't send you spam
messages about all of my somewhat 313 related activity (like the records
I've released this year, the absoloop label, and all of that nonsense:), I
felt it rather necessary to post a link to a live performance that James
Johnson and I recorded earlier this month as The Fallen.

Any of you familiar with James Johnson (aka Plural) should also know
that he's a hell of a producer and DJ (one I really enjoy working with as
well) and he has releases on 6one6, separate skills, and soon a seminal
Detroit label...

45 minutes of pure, unpracticed, unbridled, unadulterated techno
funk...suitable for placing in your ear holes.  It's all live, not a DJ
set.  Here is the link:

http://soundcloud.com/the-fallen-3/the-fallen-11-17-12-at-blur

Hope you all enjoy it...I may make it available for download...

Cheers and happy holidays to all on this list!

Kevin Kennedy
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Re: (313) Something for all the heads on the list: A live recording of improvised techno!

[Kevin Kennedy]

I will make this downloadable soon:)


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah thanks K, save that nonsense for members like me :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi 313 peoples.

As I am certain you are aware that I normally don't send you spam
 messages about all of my somewhat 313 related activity (like the records
 I've released this year, the absoloop label, and all of that nonsense:), I
 felt it rather necessary to post a link to a live performance that James
 Johnson and I recorded earlier this month as The Fallen.

 Any of you familiar with James Johnson (aka Plural) should also know
 that he's a hell of a producer and DJ (one I really enjoy working with as
 well) and he has releases on 6one6, separate skills, and soon a seminal
 Detroit label...

 45 minutes of pure, unpracticed, unbridled, unadulterated techno
 funk...suitable for placing in your ear holes.  It's all live, not a DJ
 set.  Here is the link:

 http://soundcloud.com/the-fallen-3/the-fallen-11-17-12-at-blur

 Hope you all enjoy it...I may make it available for download...

 Cheers and happy holidays to all on this list!

 Kevin Kennedy
 --
 FBK

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Re: (313) Re: [idm] KRUI DJ set from last Saturday Night

[Kevin Kennedy]

I wanted to say THANK YOU!  Lovely mix!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM, max tanguay maxb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 great mix, as usual. cool selection!
 thanks for dropping a track onf mine in there!

 peace


 net label : pertin-nce.ca
 me : soundcloud.com/bleupulp
 
 From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org; do id i...@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:17:04 PM
 Subject: [idm] KRUI DJ set from last Saturday Night

 Shout out to my internet friends who blessed me with cool shiz to play
 -- Larry Burden, Kevin Kennedy, Jason Snell, Adam Jay, Stefan Robbers.

 http://music.cornwarning.com/2012/09/23/krui-dj-set-2012-09-22/

 Direct link
 http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/Chaircrusher-KRUI-DJ-Set-20120922.mp3

 Items - Paint Your Own Galaxy
 Throwing Snow - Brook
 The Orb feat. Lee Perry - Hold Me Upsetter
 Mr De - Tonight
 Mr De - Uh Oh
 Tom Butcher - mAS
 Chaircrusher - People We Know
 Art Bleek - Super Blue
 ESG - Moody
 Mr De - All For Granted
 Tevo Howard - Dusa Remix
 Nehuen - Bad Automation
 Terse - Proto
 Octave One - New Life
 Nina Simone - Sinnerman(Felix The Housecat Mix)
 Totte - Stay
 Terse - Velvet Purse
 Jason Snell - Event Horizon
 Cooly G - Is It Gone
 Cardopusher - Hotbox
 Mike Huckaby - The Tresor Track
 Adam Jay - Chatter
 Gobby - Viewing HRS ZZZ
 Adam Jay - Terrible Precision
 Chaircrusher - Prime 1
 Totte - Light Beams
 ChaIrcrusher - Klea
 FBK - Idol  Idiot
 Cardopusher - Wave Function
 Cooly G - Landscapes
 Chance McDermott - Renewing of your Mind
 Dusk  Blackdown - High Road
 Chaircrusher - Terrible Terrific
 MuZiq - Roy Castle

 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
 For additional commands, e-mail: idm-h...@hyperreal.org






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(313) New FBK EP on Diametric out today:

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hey all:

FBK has a new release on Diametric.  Hardwax described it as
Nice, retroish ambient techno.  Vinyl only, 300 hand-numbered copies
worldwide.  Go to www.diametric-music.com for details...




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(313) FBK on Diametric! For the second time!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi all,

   Have not posted on the list with news about FBK (Kevin
Kennedy...yup me) in a while.  I thought I would share the news about
my latest VINYL release:  I have done another release for Arne
Weinberg's Diametric imprint, this one entitled Antithesis.  I think
that some on this very list will like the tunes.  12-diam will be
available for purchase on 18 June...and you can pre-order it as well.

Sound samples are available @ www.diametric-music.com   I just got
my copies and the mastering job is quite wonderful...record sounds
fantastic to me...hope you'll listen, comment, and enjoy.


Thank you 313 people for being real.

Cheers,


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Re: (313) what up Detroit

[Kevin Kennedy]

I suggest Plaka.
On May 26, 2012 11:42 AM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:

 313 dinner Sunday sounds great. Where we meeting?

 On May 24, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:

  Back again and ready to take it all on, although it's going to be hot
  this weekend and I'm planning to take things back from +4 to +1
  as a result : )
 
  Not happy the Tigers aren't in town, but so it goes.
 
  313 should do a dinner get-together or something... Sunday?
 
  cheers
 
  fh
 

Re: (313) Carls Davis AKA Carl Craig

[Kevin Kennedy]

What isn't to like...stuck between listening music and filling a big
room with small sounds...mute button funk...it's interesting at the
least...though if you never said Carl Craig did it would I even
listen:)  But that's me.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm feeling #1, #3, and #6... I will definitely buy this, I play
 mostly deep house (esp Detroit variety) with a bit of Perlon and
 Detroit techno type vibes thrown in, so this is just the kind of
 record that fits in well with my sets.

 ~David

 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:31 AM, max tanguay maxb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 sounds pretty ''straight up machine jam'' to me,
 i would say that track 1 and 6 are the one that i liked best,,
 i don think its all that compared to other stuff i heard from him.to be
 honnest, but its just my opinion

 peace out

 net label : pertin-nce.ca
 me : soundcloud.com/bleupulp
 
 From: Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
 To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:36:23 AM
 Subject: (313) Carls Davis AKA Carl Craig

 New EP; new alias.


 http://pulseradio.net/articles/2012/05/carl-craig-releases-ep-under-new-moniker








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Re: (313) Joke of the week

[Kevin Kennedy]

just like that last shot of 151, the last post just put me over the edge.


On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just had my moby tattoo totally re-done: I now have a giant Plastikman
 on my lower back.

 Op 29 februari 2012 01:28 heeft david smith bassline...@gmail.com
 het volgende geschreven:
 I had a webcam chat with a girl who had a skillex tattoo--just chating to
 hear made me feel kinda dirty even though she was cute and not doing naughty
 things.  When is the last time you seen a moby tattoo?


 - Original Message - From: ja...@iridite.com
 To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 Cc: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com; Three-One-Three
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) Joke of the week



 WHAT CAN WE SAY ABOUT MOBY THAT HASN’T BEEN SAID?

 Hmmm, I can think of a few things actually now you mention it.

 Having said that, he did do a pretty fine remix of LFO on WARP many
 years ago so he's not all bad.  Skrillex on the other hand..

 Jason


 On 28 February 2012 19:23, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Chose Few DJs House Music Picnic is coming up in June...

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Well, so much for us here in Chicago ever getting a house festival of
 the DEMF variety: http://www.springawakeningfestival.com/

 $100 to see Skrillex! I'm going to buy -5- tickets.

 -Art





 --
 http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 |
 http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0
 --



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Re: (313) Joke of the week

[Kevin Kennedy]

1 moby stories...3000 skrilldix stories...hate, hate hate hate
hate...I just bought mouse-flavored mouthwash for the cats.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:21 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Moby once asked me via e-mail for advice on Serge Modulars, and where
 there was a Friends Meeting House in NYC.  True story.

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 WHAT CAN WE SAY ABOUT MOBY THAT HASN’T BEEN SAID?

 Hmmm, I can think of a few things actually now you mention it.

 Having said that, he did do a pretty fine remix of LFO on WARP many
 years ago so he's not all bad.  Skrillex on the other hand..

 Jason


 On 28 February 2012 19:23, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Chose Few DJs House Music Picnic is coming up in June...

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Well, so much for us here in Chicago ever getting a house festival of
 the DEMF variety: http://www.springawakeningfestival.com/

 $100 to see Skrillex! I'm going to buy -5- tickets.

 -Art



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Re: (313) Joke of the week

[Kevin Kennedy]

...by the way...i was kidding.  I feel you, I was hoping the 'mouse
flavored mouthwash for the cats' would have been a giveaway.  I feel
for you all in chi-town.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 My post wasn't so much to hate on Moby or Skrillex, as I'm sure that's
 been done more eloquently by plenty of others over the years.

 This was more a general malaise regarding the lack of a House-centric
 DEMF-style Chicago summer festival, the likes of which would bring
 people out from far and wide ;)

 When I saw the post for this $100 ticket electronic music event in
 Chicago and then saw the lineup, you can imagine the disappointment on
 many fronts.

 -Arturo



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(313) New release from a 313er...along with some links to stuff!!!!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi all, new works out today...listen, comment, enjoy, cheers:)

http://localautonomy.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/the-fallens-first-ep-abrasive-technology-out-today/

Here's a link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF97TvV73qMcontext=C384fcaeADOEgsToPDskJPI9i_HEa7ft_gNpKVY9px

and...the EP...:http://www.beatport.com/release/abrasive-technology/866260

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(313) Fwd: [New post] A Closer Look: FBK

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi everyone...HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!  Below you can read the
first FBK interview ever.  Many of you are receiving this because your
name may be in it:)

Anyhow, I hope that you all enjoy the read-there's also this thing of
a free download available of a track of FBKbut that may require
going to the Local Autonomy blog or FBK's soundcloud page;)


Cheers, and speak soon all of you!



-- Forwarded message --
From: Local Autonomy donotre...@wordpress.com
Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:09 AM
Subject: [New post] A Closer Look: FBK
To: the...@gmail.com


New post on Local Autonomy

A Closer Look: FBK

by localautonomy

You know the drill. FBK ran down his track that started it all and
gave us a hot mix to get at.  He must still be in the Holiday spirit,
because now he is dropping an exclusive track for Local Autonomy for
free for all of us.

Now that we got that hot new track we get to delve deep into the
stories and insights of a man who has been DJ'in in Columbus since
1988. He is uniquely positioned to help us understand the ebs and
flows of our scene historically and point out new ways of thinking
about DJ'in, production, and our future as a scene.

Interview:

LA: Few people in our community know who you are FBK, despite the fact
that you have been spinnin' here since 1988. Hell, I had to go find
you on the internet to get a hold of you. For those people who don't
know you, Who are you FBK?

FBK: My 'real name' is Kevin Kennedy, I have been known as Powerhouse,
the Sleep Engineer, and “that fat guy,” “hey you...” and also “oh
god...him again...” which to many I'm still known by that last one ;)

LA: How did you get into EDM music and our scene?

FBK: Good question...first off I prefer the term “Dance Music.”  EDM
seems to be an 'industry' term used to categorize music that isn't
rock n' roll...popular dance music is considered EDM.  I got into
Dance Music by being a child of the 70s and hearing disco (as my
mother was a clubgoer at times)...and by hearing all of the music
coming out in the 1980s...like Cybotron's Clear, Herbie Hancock's
Rockit...and all of the hip hop coming out of New York...and also
getting mixtapes from Chicago's WBMX in the mid-late 80s...

LA: You have been DJ'ing in Columbus and around the country since
1988. What is it about the music and spinning that keeps you coming
back? What does the act of DJ'in mean to you? How does it make you
feel?

FBK: I guess it's that aspect of performing that has kept me playing
records for all this time...I love to perform!  There is an
exhilaration and a release that can only be understood by stage
performers that may be one of the most addictive substances known to
man...The act of Djing for me is like being a drummer-everyone in the
audience is dancing to whatever beat you're putting out...the sense of
controlling a crowd, moving people, and creating FEELING-which seems
to be lost on many these days-is a form of joy and power that I cannot
really describe in words.  Cathartic maybe?

LA: How did you get your start DJ'in?

FBK: I started in the late 80s...collecting records, playing sounds I
liked on my home turntable...and then learning how to creatively make
collages with cassettes...I then moved on to learning about the art of
Djing while watching guys breakdance at the Salesian Boys Club
downtown in Columbus.  I got to learn a little bit...began watching a
bunch of DMC competition videos...flash forward to 1990, I began to
work with my longtime friend Eric Weaver, who had turntables in his
basement...I started learning more and more, Kennon Hughes (the
incredible Mean Skeme) also played a GIANT role in my development as a
DJ-I wanted to be a hip-hop DJ (or a DMC champion)...but that never
happened...

LA: Do you remember the first set you ever spun? What was it like?

FBK: Honestly?  I don't.  I remember the first time I played records
at a house party...it was an ele mental crew New Years Eve gig...I
played experimental electronic music at the time...not really wanting
to play dance stuff (artistic academic bullshitter that I was;)...I
remember Mark Gunderson playing after me...and I remember he told me
“great stuff...love the sounds...”  I was stoked...and that may have
been my downfall!  (laughs)

La: When did you start working on the production end? How did you
start building tracks?

FBK: My first production studio was actually a failed attempt at a
hip-hop recording facility.  I had all the wrong equipment to make
hip-hop at the time-no sampler, no drum machine...okay I had an alesis
sr-16 (this is 1994 we're talking about)...I had very little and no
earthly idea what I was doing...so I just made sounds and sounds and
sounds...recording things to a tube reel-to-reel (which I had rebuilt
while in High School).  I was working in my studio 8 hours a day, 16
hours a day when I wasn't working...and I made a track or two each
day.  I pushed myself the same way I was pushed while in Poets Of
Heresy (the hip-hop group I

(313) FBK HAS A KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN:)

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hi everyone:)  I just wanted to post up about my Kickstarter
campaign-I am using Kickstarter to attempt to raise money to produce a
vinyl record...if you're interested, please support!  Hope everyone
had a great holiday, and look forward to 2012and look forward to
hearing GREAT THINGS from FBK and Absoloop in 2012 as well!

Cheers!  and follow the link below!


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2082965995/fbk-and-dj-daleford-chad-12-vinyl-ep-real-techno

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

(313) An Update from FBK and Absoloop for all interested 313ers!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Hello everyone!


Hoping that this message finds all of you happy, vibrant, and enjoying
your December.  I wanted to first off say that many of you on this
very list I admire, enjoy conversation with, and put you in high
regards.  I also know of the discerning musical tastes of many of
you...so, here goes some 'SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION':  (clears throat:)


FBK has finally launched Absoloop, his own label!  His first release
is entitled Adventures Inside the Loop and is now available in
nearly every digital outlet!  Here is a link to the EP on Juno:

http://www.junodownload.com/products/adventures-inside-the-loop-vol-1/1865820-02/

ALSO:  I have also started a campaign on Kickstarter!  I would love
your support...watch the video and have a laugh!  Here is a link for
the campaign:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2082965995/fbk-and-dj-daleford-chad-12-vinyl-ep-real-techno

I hope that you will at least take a look...thank you!

-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: Fwd: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs

[Kevin Kennedy]

Lovely.  all of us who can be seen as grandfatherly types can hope for
...well at least me...is that people remember, and enjoy the next, the
new.  I have remained productive...propers to those who have.  I love this
list...and wish everyone on it success.  I hope we all keep talking through
memorial day, rather than wait and lurk.  As long as I can breathe I will
continue-and hopefully this list will have the backs of those doing work.
Cheers.
On Nov 27, 2011 3:04 AM, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote:


 Shake sent this to me but we figured it was worth sharing...

 Begin forwarded message:



 On 26 Nov 2011, at 16:39, Anthony Shakir wrote:

 
 
  Anthony Shakir
  shake1sha...@aol.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com
  To: marsel mar...@nomorewords.net
  Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am
  Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã-
 Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
 
 
  Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel...
 
  Robin
 
  
   here's one for the 313 grand pas
  
   feat MK
  
  http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919
 
  
   and talking about re-issues
  
   here's the first of four Drexciya albums
  
  http://clone.nl/item21960.html
 
  
  
   Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef:
   This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music
   it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the
   good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a
   better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to
   make any kind of money at it anymore.
  
 
 
 
 
 
   my friend fbk told me that that people want the classics. some of 
  these (r)ecords
   were hard to get when they were made. and in trying to get them if you 
  were not
   in the stores when they were delivered you missed out. i always looked at 
  this music
   as bigger than it ever was. and the actual sales reminded me of the reality
of it not being as big as i thought. but it was big to me. and still is 
  big to me. the
   distributors only (buy) what they will sell. so i guess that is what 
  help(s)it stay

   what it is. a cultish/niche genre thing. i can live with that having made 
  some of it.

   money is an afterthought. it is a labor of love for me. so i do no not
   complain that i make just enough to keep doing it. (this is a business ron 
  murphy reminded me once r.i.p .)

   so i will go on. for some, music is life. for others, it is noise and a 
  waste of time. you can always hope

   that some hip hop guy will borrow it (sample it) and turn it into a 
  profitable venture.
 

  shake shakir
 
  frictional recordings
  detroit, michigan.

Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs

[Kevin Kennedy]

You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that:

FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman
called CONDUCTED.

as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list.  From
what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things
forward...I would probably rather buy this.  I don't buy CDs...I make
thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about
this disc...I guessed I would.  Sorry to hijack your thread.

FBK


Do people buy mix cds anymore?  Shoot, I don't know...but the liner
notes for this disc are quite interesting...

http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted

cheers...

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's.

 But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is
 big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a
 reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available
 from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there
 than one can keep up with.

 I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That
 scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find
 mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the
 interest for collectors that vinyl has.

 On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I
 could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone
 other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their
 events.

 ~David

 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote:
 On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here?

 People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely
 that is correct.


 Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote
 their club.   Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them
 digitally.

 What drives your perspective on the matter?

 Benn

 Benn Glazier
 b...@glzr.info
 www.BennGlazier.com
 www.twitter.com/BennGlazier
 www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography
 +44 (0) 7714 3000 18





-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs

[Kevin Kennedy]

I didn't scold anyone, except to say that there's TWO people who are
part of this list who are RATHER RELEVANT to 313 list, and
Detroit...and I am only stating it because it may be interesting to
others as well, and there's been no mention.


On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agreed,

 Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on
 a post by another member, that's all.  Plus I don't think I'm that off
 by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this
 forum).

 I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a
 couple weeks ago while I was there.  I'll have to catch it next time
 for sure.  Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am
 on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant
 surprise).

 Joe

 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote:


 On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yo bro,
 It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to
 be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what
 this list is all about.  Barely anyone ever comments on what I post
 but I don't get sore about it.  It's all good.  We're not obligated to
 comment on each other's stuff.

 For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in
 someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy
 who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of
 separation from Detroit to Berlin there.

 Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef.

 Otherwise, let the conversation flow.  FWIW, I liked the one night I spent
 at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya
 - that was a sign of good things to come.

 Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record...

 --

 Benn Glazier
 b...@glzr.info
 www.BennGlazier.com
 www.twitter.com/BennGlazier
 www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography
 +44 (0) 7714 3000 18





-- 
FBK

Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs

[Kevin Kennedy]

I feel betteri do not post often about things I am doing, of which
theres a bunch...but I tend to think it necessary to mention what seems to
be a good thing-like americans and midwestern artists getting international
attention.  Thanks for listening, and news from me is coming soon:)
On Nov 25, 2011 5:57 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok ok, geez.  Scolded may have been to strong of a word but the
 point remains.  It's all good.

 Hardwax was cool but I had more fun digging at Diamonds  Pearls

 Joe




 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't scold anyone, except to say that there's TWO people who are
  part of this list who are RATHER RELEVANT to 313 list, and
  Detroit...and I am only stating it because it may be interesting to
  others as well, and there's been no mention.
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:
  Agreed,
 
  Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on
  a post by another member, that's all.  Plus I don't think I'm that off
  by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this
  forum).
 
  I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a
  couple weeks ago while I was there.  I'll have to catch it next time
  for sure.  Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am
  on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant
  surprise).
 
  Joe
 
  On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote:
 
 
  On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Yo bro,
  It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to
  be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what
  this list is all about.  Barely anyone ever comments on what I post
  but I don't get sore about it.  It's all good.  We're not obligated to
  comment on each other's stuff.
 
  For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see
 harm in
  someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a
 guy
  who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees
 of
  separation from Detroit to Berlin there.
 
  Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef.
 
  Otherwise, let the conversation flow.  FWIW, I liked the one night I
 spent
  at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing
 Drexciya
  - that was a sign of good things to come.
 
  Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record...
 
  --
 
  Benn Glazier
  b...@glzr.info
  www.BennGlazier.com
  www.twitter.com/BennGlazier
  www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography
  +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  FBK
 
  Absoloop/Orange 82
 

Re: (313) T Baby is an Internet phenomenon?

[Kevin Kennedy]

This is AWFUL.  it's like the the beat came afterwards...this makes me sad.


On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:01 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I know why producers choose to put every vocal through autotune...
 ~DP

 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:53 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
 Yeah, Tha D got clowned a few years ago over this.

 -Original Message-
 From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: list 313
 Subject: (313) T Baby is an Internet phenomenon?

 The beat is pretty decent.  They sing the hook in the key of WTF, and verses
 end in the middle of the loop. It made it onto the resurrected Beavis 
 Butthead...

 It's So Cold In The D
 http://youtu.be/aktLRiWXfqg






-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) Silly fanboy collectors question...

[Kevin Kennedy]

let's see...

I do have a signed poster and vinyl from Living Colour's vivid tour
(they did an in-store near my house...I was 14...I asked to have my
picture taken with the band, I sat between Muzz  Corey Glover...all
the while FORGING Will Calhoun's signature).

I like memories and stories more than autographs:

I met Kurt Cobain when he played in Columbus.  Talked to him for 5
minutes after soundcheck...this is the night before smells like teen
spirit broke on MTV.

I got Autographs from Steve Shelley and from Michael Rother when they
played together for the Neu! Hallogallo thing.

I did get an autograph from George Clinton...on a parliment Tshirt...

When I first met Dan Bell, I tried to get him to autograph my copy of
losing control'...but I actually got something better:  He handed me
the first represses of the first four accelerate releases when I
visited him @ 7th City.  I was given Shake's copy of night drive
through babylon by Shake.

I at one point owned the DAT machine that was used for all of the
Accelerate releases, Most of the +8 stuff, and the first two
Dopplereffeckt records.

I don't usually get into autograph seeking...but if someone asks me to
autograph a copy of one of my records...I gladly oblige:)

I am a fan...of a bunch of stuff:)

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:45 PM, domino dom...@digitallifedetroit.com wrote:
 great topic!

 i had Chris Simmonds sign a few of his records when he was in Detroit in
 2000 or 2001.  meeting him was a treat.  he was so nice.

 i think i have a cd signed by Carl Craig somewhere.  it was always exciting
 when he came to Record Time.  also very nice the few times i got to speak
 with him, and generous with the whitelabels!

 one of the biggest thrills of my life was seeing Alexander Robotnick perform
 in Detroit in 2004, i believe.  not sure, but it may have been his first
 Detroit performance.  i first heard Problemes D'Amour on the radio in the
 early 80's and have been in love with the song ever since.  20 years later
 i'm standing there with his record in my hand, waiting for the end of his
 gig to get an autograph.  holding the record and a drink at the same time
 were probably the only thing keeping me from doing some Whitney
 Houston-style finger waving in the face of the ignorant girl behind me who
 said to a friend in a nasty tone, who's the old guy?  THAT OLD GUY IS
 ALEXANDER F** ROBOTNICK!  he was so nice and signed the record
 immediately, even though there was a bit of a language barrier.

 love,
 domino


 *-Original Message-
 *From: irid...@gmail.com [mailto:irid...@gmail.com] On Behalf
 *Of ja...@iridite.com
 *Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:17 PM
 *To: 313 list
 *Subject: (313) Silly fanboy collectors question...
 *
 *.so, how many of you out there have signed records in your
 *collection?  I don't mean ones you've picked up in a store (I
 *still kick myself after all these years remembering passing up
 *a complete set of signed and sealed Transmat and Fragile
 *releases in Ruadub because they were £1 more expensive than
 *the normal copies and I had the majority of the tracks
 *anyway)...I mean the ones you've actually taken the time and
 *bother to drag down to a club night where somebody you totally
 *respect is about to play and you run up to them with a silver
 *or black marker and...well, you know the rest :)
 *
 *Tonight, whilst going through my vinyl for the first time in a
 *LONG time, I found:
 *
 *Mr Fingers - Amnesia - of course I was new to the signing
 *thing then and had brought a ball point pen instead of a
 *marker and poor old Larry had to sort of inscribe the cover as
 *the pen wouldn't write - this would have been roughly
 *1994-1995 when he played live (DX7, Emax II and live vocals- I
 *recoreded the gig on DAT and of course, it didn't work) in the
 *Volcano club on a Thursday night (where the club scene in
 *Trainspotting was filmed fact fans!)
 *
 *Orlando Voorn - 1987 DMC MegaMix - signed at his Art School
 *gig back in 2001 just before I moved over to Amsterdam - he
 *ended the show by coming out of the DJ booth, dancing like a
 *crazy man and then scratching in the next track by leaning
 *back into the booth whilst still dancing - pretty impressive stuff!
 *
 *Of course the hardest part after making a fool of yourself is
 *getting the said record home in one piece..or home at all!
 *
 *Come on you lot, what you got?
 *
 *Jason
 *
 *






-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) New Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

Kimyon was a pretty good promoter way back in the 90s.  I have no
further comment.


On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote:
 ouch. my ears.
 this is metroplex? thumbs down.


 On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:43 PM, John Sokolowski wrote:


 Was pretty excited to stumble upon a new release on Metroplex by Kimyon. 
 Clips can be heard here:

 http://www.kimyonhuggins.com/?p=164

 Oh, and there is a release party next weekend in Detroit with Juan and Real 
 by Reel live!

 http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?306216

 I believe Kimyon and Juan collaborated on that 'Work for Money' track a few 
 years back.





-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) New Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

kent, you are being very nice...I am proud of you.  I am reserving all
comment about this recording.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:45 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 His site is a triumph of design over usability.  Took me a minute to
 even figure out how to hear the files.

 Not immediately overwhelmingly awesome.  Like a lot of things about
 Derrick May, it's by no means obvious what he's got in mind, even
 though he's one of the most prolific talkers in the city of Detroit.


 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Matt Kane's Brain
 mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:
 Clips? I think my only option was to download the whole thing. Did
 they mean to do that? O_o

 --
 matt kane's brain
 http://hydrogenproject.com





-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) Detroit The Blueprint Of Techno

[Kevin Kennedy]

House is year round in Detroit...techno is looked at for about a
weekend or so.  the rest of the world loves Detroit Techno:)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 We tell it here every day ;-)   There have been a bunch of
 documentaries of wildly varying quality about Detroit Techno, and no
 one gets it exactly right.  Which is why it's such a joy to visit
 Detroit and hang out and go to parties -- it's always something
 different than what you'd expect based on media portrayals.

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually... you just reinforced my point... He made it sound like
 HOUSE is a purely Chicago thing, and techno is what happens in
 Detroit. But Detroit producers have made, and continue to make,
 brilliant, original house music in their own right. Not just copying
 what Chicago did, but doing their own take on things.

 That story remains to be told, I think.

 ~David


 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:31 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Except of course Terrence Parker spoke about the importance of the
 influence of Chicago House on techno.

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:59 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Carl Craig doesn't like Country  Western... :-(

 It's interesting to see how overlooked house is in that video, almost
 like it didn't exist! Not even a tiny mention of Moodymann...

 ~David

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow. First footage ever of Derrick in (his) studio?

 It's probably from around 1999/2000, we - technotourists - were in
 Detroit in 1999, and that was at the height of the Sony/UR thing.

 Cheers,

 W

 2011/10/4 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:
 Just noticed this old ('97+/-) documentary on TP's YouTube page:

 http://youtu.be/SYSagw7v4dU

 Its even got Richie pre-hair.

 - P.




 --
 http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 |
 http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0
 --








-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) Made in Detroit 7-inch?

[Kevin Kennedy]

You want the 7.  Will tell you it is nothing but heat.  I will say no more.
On Sep 25, 2011 3:18 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Sounds interesting- am I right in saying this album was only available
 through Hard Wax for the first couple of weeks? Do you think it was
 something they put in there or was it actually in the Reel By Real
 album?

 I love getting 7 bonus records with albums - the one that came with
 Kenny Larkin's Azimuth was a belter!

 cheers

 Jason

 On 13 September 2011 21:06, Benajmin Oist yaranaika@gmail.com wrote:
 So, my copy of Reel by Real's Surkit Chamber got here yesterday in all
 its excellence. When I opened it, something unexpected fell out of the
 package: A 7-inch white label with only a Made in Detroit logo and a
 stamped number (apparently limited to 313 copies). The only other
 writing I could find was etching in the dead wax bearing the legend
 M.I.D. 1 or something similar. The A-side was a pretty nice techno
 track with a female vocalist that keeps repeating No more mind games
 at various points, and the B-side is a more tribal-ish track with what
 sounds like vocals in Arabic. Anybody know anything about this?

Re: (313) Claude Young Shawn Rudiman live in Pittsburgh

[Kevin Kennedy]

I was there to witness this.  It was even more amazing in person.  Not a
dropped ball anywhere.  Sweaty, great time!
On Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many of the people on this list might remember the legendary DEMF
 pre-part at the Magic Stick where Shawn Rudiman  Claude Young went
 nuts. They've done it again, and it was recorded this time:

 http://soundcloud.com/claudeyoung/shawn-rudiman-vs-claude-young

 Via this ISM post:

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2011/09/19/shawn-rudiman-and-claude-young-live-in-pittsburgh-9-10-11/

Re: (313) the best Black Nation Records?()*^*()

[Kevin Kennedy]

http://www.beatport.com/search?query=chance+mcdermott

I know...it's beatport...but you can find a bunch of Chance's current
works here...He's been doing great work lately, and finally getting
some traction...he and I have a project together called
BlackIrish...not found a home yet for it...but that too may change...
-- 
fbk

absoloop

Re: (313) the best Black Nation Records?()*^*()

[Kevin Kennedy]

Horsepower and I (FBK) both played @ hard black evening.  I was slated to
release a record for bnr but it didn't happen.  Still talk to Jay and I have
mad love and respect for him.
On Sep 19, 2011 6:42 PM, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: (313) the best Black Nation Records?()*^*()

[Kevin Kennedy]

someone asked about Aaron Bennett...

   Aaron is living in Austin, TX and is doing events under the moniker
of Reverse Edit:

 http://www.reverse-edit.com/

Chance McDermott is still releasing music, he's done an album for
panel trax and a few other digital labels as well...I talk to both of
them quite frequently and count them as some of my best friends.  I
always liked ice cream man from techno land myself...

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:37 AM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a huge Black Nation fan...still play early stuff all the time.
 These are my faves.

 http://www.discogs.com/Chancellor-Meets-Vice-Global-Infunkuation/master/43700
 (dated, but still a great DX100 workout)

 http://www.discogs.com/Blackman-A-Day-Of-Atonement/release/35053

 http://www.discogs.com/D-Knox-Meditation-EP/release/33583

 http://www.discogs.com/Jay-Denham-Anomie/release/35057

 http://www.discogs.com/Chance-McDermott-Blackball-EP/master/331787

 http://www.discogs.com/Vice-Playerhater-EP-Volume-II/master/43713

 http://www.discogs.com/Bios-Minimal-Funkateers/master/43690 (for sixty-neuf)

 I stopped listening when the releases seemed to get more monotonous 
 banging. I'd love to hear if there are other releases I should check
 out. Aside from Jay Denham's deeper/more interesting stuff on BNR,
 Chance McDermott's stuff was great

 JT

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote:
 i like playahater 2 and some of the other earlier releases.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:11 AM, Richard Hester wrote:


 Thanks for bringing up his name  - a real nice guy who did some kick-a** 
 tracks for BN (and maybe Sonic Mind, too - I'd have to look).
 Jeff Davis wrote:
 And on a related note, does anyone know whatever happened to Aaron Bennett?


 thanks,


 Jeffrey J Davis
 www.jeffreyjdavis.com
 218.83DAVIS

 j...@jeffreyjdavis.com jeffreyjamesdavis


 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Samuel Karmelsamuel.kar...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Ok i kinda skipped on this label except for a couple...whats the cream of 
 the crop?

 pretty please

 Sam







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Re: (313) hi 313ers...fbk has posted a video:)

[Kevin Kennedy]

funny, lots of things come up as fbk.


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:35 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sweet.  I like this track.

 By the way, what came up on Youtube with your video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MxadL5L7EA

 Crazy brazilian soca rap that reminds me of Chicago footwork.

 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very short...to the point...
,
 I made a video.  it's a short clip of what is to come...

 absoloop 001 is being prepared for digital launchhere's a link to the 
 clip:)


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUJD1NvotyQ

 cheers, and thanks:)
 --
 fbk

 absoloop





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(313) an article about something we've all talked about:

[Kevin Kennedy]

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/everything-popular-is-wrong-making-it-in-electronic-music-despite-democratization/



Well written, seems to be very truthful...and sad at the same time.
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(313) hi 313ers...fbk has posted a video:)

[Kevin Kennedy]

Very short...to the point...

I made a video.  it's a short clip of what is to come...

absoloop 001 is being prepared for digital launchhere's a link to the clip:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUJD1NvotyQ

cheers, and thanks:)
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absoloop

(313) Here's one for you?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Should an artist, working with a label (who may or may not pay them)
revise a tune that they (the artist) consider a 'complete' work?  And
if so, how far _should_ an artist compromise in order to satisfy the
desires of a label?

Curious to see your answers 313ers!


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Re: (313) Here's one for you?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Well, @ Andrew:  this is NOT regarding a specific situation.  I am
curious as to the thoughts, feelings of others on this subject...just
opening up a discussion since there are a bunch of us artist types on
this list...I felt like since we were going retro on the 313 list this
week, I'd bring up a 'would you rather' type of question...just to add
to all of our activity:)


   @Joe: Well put.

@ Jason:  Well said as well...I tend to agree with this
sentiment...however, I feel like there are times that change can be
good since many of us as artists tend to isolate rather than explore.



On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote:
 im a FIRM believer that the artist primary concer is to
 satisfy themselves. if others like it great! if not then they be damned.

 of course this kind thinking is not for marketing purposes.

 On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:

 Should an artist, working with a label (who may or may not pay them)
 revise a tune that they (the artist) consider a 'complete' work?  And
 if so, how far _should_ an artist compromise in order to satisfy the
 desires of a label?

 Curious to see your answers 313ers!


 --
 fbk

 sleepengineering/absoloop US




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Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

[Kevin Kennedy]

Real?  No...Detroit?  Only if you count that Dan Bell used to work
with with Richie...and that Dan lived in Detroit for years and helped
out a bunch of Detroit artists (and even a young black kid from
Columbus that nobody's heard of named fbk:)...Richie's early work was
at some point the first really 'detroit-inspired' stuff that people
could point to on a large scale...but I still say that anyone who
talks to me about 'sheet one' SHOULD listen to Eon's 'void dweller'
album first...then listen to sheet one...even though sheet one holds
up better.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:59 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
 added a bit for the sake of controversy...
 
 From: bennglaz...@gmail.com [mailto:bennglaz...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Benn
 Glazier
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:38 PM
 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

 OK then...

 Yes. So, how about:
 - Who is Drexciya?
 - Is anyone into techno-trance?
 - The monthly Hawtin thread.  Hair or no hair?  Glasses or contacts? Windsor
 or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit?

 Ahem.

 :^)




 On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:

 Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-)
 On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote:

 the dutch don't know shit

 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com
 wrote:

 Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on
 the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-)

 I will start:



 - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?

 :-))

 KJ










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Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

[Kevin Kennedy]

UmmI am really just glad that someone is talking about a DETROIT
artist on the 313 LIST!


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:
 awesome, thanks! i had been hoping somebody had done that!

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 also check this stinson/donald podcast. i listen to it loads
 http://www.bleep43.com/podcast/2006/2/19/podcast-17-james-stinson-and-gerald-donald-special.html

 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 this is a great way to engage with an artist's music. i have done similar
 projects with the works of autechre, coil, scott walker and nurse with
 wound. very rewarding experiences. :)

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Since August 1st I've been trying to concentrate entirely on devouring
 the oeuvre of Gerald Donald and James Stinson (R.I.P.). We're talking
 about 24 full hours of music over about 45-50 albums, EPs, and singles
 including all their various pseudonyms. The reason I am doing this is
 because I find their music to be relatively tricky to wrap my head
 around in general, while so many of my friends consider Stinson/Donald
 to be among the best of their contemporaries. Specifically a lot of
 Stinson/Donald tunes sound particularly chaotic even to my modern ears
 well trained in noise, avant garde, and the repetitive loops of
 minimal classical (Steve Reich, Philip Glass) and techno music. I
 wondered if completely saturating my ears with only their music would
 change my opinion/enlighten me to their supposed genius at all.

 To date I am about halfway through the project based on mostly casual
 subway ride listening, and I've not been as diligent in avoiding the
 fast forward button as I'd hoped I could be. It's really difficult to
 stick to one artist who produced a pretty consistent style of music
 without listening to anything else for such an extended period of
 time. I do occasionally give my ears a bit of a break and allow myself
 to hear some non Stinson/Donald tunage.

 To date Wavejumper from their 1995 Aquatic Invasion EP remains my
 absolute favorite Drexciya tune:

 http://youtu.be/imKh_TKqHt4

 As a side note, the name I've given this experiment - Drexciyan
 Immersion Project - is a kind of funny nod to the sci-fi underwater
 mythology that Drexciya built around their music/built their music
 around.

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  an undiscovered track or three would be nice..i can dream rite?
 
  On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:
 
  Some interesting news on the wire:
 
  http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/09/drexciya-reissues-coming-soon
 
  Sadly, it's been nearly a decade since early '90s Detroit
  techno/electro duo Drexciya last released new music. However, we've
  just discovered that reissues of the pair's early material will be
  surfacing in the near future. Clone Classic Cuts, the reissues imprint
  for Dutch label Clone, announced just yesterday: We will reissue the
  early Drexciya catalogue on Clone. We are currently busy restoring the
  original master tapes, and hopefully we will have the first one ready
  before the end of the year! Of course, we will keep you updated on the
  process. No further details were shared, but the news itself is
  certainly exciting, to say the least. (via FACT)
 
 



 --
 peace,

 frank

 http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 http://www.infinitestatemachine.com






 --
 peace,

 frank

 http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 http://www.infinitestatemachine.com




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Re: (313) [EVT][Portland] Claude Young - Brian Zentz - The Mitchell Brothers - Sept 3, 2011

[Kevin Kennedy]

SEPTEMBER 10TH IN PITTSBURGH IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

Shawn Rudiman AND Claude Young in the same room?  I don't think I can
miss this:)


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:
 And from www.claudeyoungjr.com, he'll be at Belvedere's in Pittsburgh
 on Sep. 10, National Underground in NY (I don't know the place but it's
 at E. Houston and 1st), and this . . .

 Sat, 17 Sep 2011
 There is No Planet Earth at Secret Location / Michigan


 -
Hi All,
    I'm sure anybody in the area that's on the 313 list already knows
about this, but just in case...


Renegade Rhythms presents Claude Young, Bryan Zentz and The Mitchell Bros

Saturday Sept 3@9:00pm- 4:00am
Location: Someday Lounge 125 NW 5th Ave Portland, OR

We are proud to announce the Portland debut of Detroit Techno Legend!


Claude Young - Cynet:media, 7th City, Frictional Records, Surface, DJAX
- Up Beats - Tokyo / Detroit


Local support by:

Bryan Zentz - Plus 8, AMAN

The Mitchell Bros - Renegade Rhythms, Mixworks, Creme Organization,
Muzique Records, Antenna International
  - Portland



Lighting by ... 1313 Effect will be in da HOUSE!



10 dollar advanced tix available @ portlandmercury.com

15 dollars @ the door

more info:
info line: 503-732-0313
twitter: twitter.com/renegaderhythms






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Re: (313) [EVT][Portland] Claude Young - Brian Zentz - The Mitchell Brothers - Sept 3, 2011

[Kevin Kennedy]

exactly!

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:36 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was mostly sober. It was brilliant.  You know how Jazz players can
 just work into the cracks of each others' grooves? That was Sean and
 Claude.

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Matt Kane's Brain
 mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:
 This happened once before. (at a DEMF pre party)

 I don't remember much except about the tequila. 8)

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 21:17, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
 SEPTEMBER 10TH IN PITTSBURGH IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

 Shawn Rudiman AND Claude Young in the same room?  I don't think I can
 miss this:)


 --
 matt kane's brain
 http://hydrogenproject.com





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Re: (313) Dan Sicko

[Kevin Kennedy]

A Hard Black Evening party in Kalamazoo.  I had dinner with him, Jay
Denham, Claude Young, Surgeon, and a bunch of others...I remember it
being pointed out that he was there...was pleased to meet him.  So
very sad that he is ill.  However, he has done one thing that most
cannot say that they have:  He's left a mark on this world.  I am
praying for him and his family.
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(313) Chicago...313...and fbk!

[Kevin Kennedy]

Fbk is currently in a vehicle headed to chicago illinois.  To meet up with
Mr. Dettman...would love to see chitown's 313 contingent out and
about...since my birthday is 3 days away:)

Cheers...and send me an email-you'll get contact info;)

Re: (313) OK Kent, I see your point

[Kevin Kennedy]

Music is a world unto itself...it's a language we all understandsays
stevie wonder.
On Jul 7, 2011 1:14 PM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/7/6 Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com

 Music is its own meaning... there is no need for it to be this or be
 that, if you choose to let it simply be. Nobody dances to a
 destination. The point of the dance is the dance.


 I know what you mean, in fact it was over the table when I had the
 discussion.
 It is just DANCE music, so just dance it

 But somehow, It has some meaning the other point of view.
 Yes you just dance this song or another, It has some groove and other
 things, but are you aware of the meaining and the reasons of that song?
 Maybe i'm getting some complicated with this point but I feel nowdays that
 all the things should be done with a sense of responsibility and therefore
 be honest with your cultural legacy.




 I don't think you can understand the SOCIO-POLITICS behind it without
 at least living there for a few years, if not being from there.


 I agree with that.



 But that only has as much meaning as you choose to attach to it.
 ~T

 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com
wrote:

  What do you guys think about this?
  Is possible for a person that had born outside Detroit and US,
correctly
  understand the real meaning of Detroit Techno?
 
 
 
 

Re: (313) Moscow clubs, contacts?

[Kevin Kennedy]

LOL!  That's it!  Have fun!

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Matt Chester chesterm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your help and advice everyone, much appreciated :)

 @ FBK - It's cause all the boys look super chic...  :p


 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Matt Chester chesterm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Does anyone here know anything about the scene in Moscow at the
 moment?  Are there any decent clubs or parties that do good Techno,
 House or Electro?  If so does anyone have any contacts they could
 share, or know of any local English language (or at least
 non-cryllic!) websites that would be a good place to start looking?

 I sent Matt a message on Facebook.

 My friend Ed Vertov splits his time between Moscow and LA.

 He (and his DJ friend Katya Ryba) is involved with the Pro-Tez label and the 
 band SCSI-9 (Anton Kubikov  Maxim Milutenko).  Good people and there's a 
 good scene over there.  They've had John Tejada over to play for them before.

 http://www.pro-tez.com/

        - Greg





 --
 Matt Chester
 11th Hour Recordings
 chesterm...@gmail.com
 www.matt-chester.com




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Re: (313) Moscow clubs, contacts?

[Kevin Kennedy]

Wish I could help...sounds like you are looking for a...wait for it...

Moscow Diskow?

sorry...had to say it.

cheers and hope you are well...


On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Matt Chester
chesterm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Does anyone here know anything about the scene in Moscow at the
 moment?  Are there any decent clubs or parties that do good techno,
 house or electro? If so does anyone have any contacts they could
 share, or know of any local english language (or at least
 non-cryllic!) websites that would be a good place to start looking?

 Thanks!
 matt

 --
 Matt Chester
 11th Hour Recordings
 chesterm...@gmail.com
 www.matt-chester.com




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Re: (313) NPR on Chicago Footwork music

[Kevin Kennedy]

Seriously all...with Dance Mania gone...what would you do if you're in
Chi-town?  All this music has the earmarks of stuff that would be
released on DM now...and I'd rather hear this stuff than that dead-a$s
crap that they call rap now.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Sam samuel.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Melbourne shuffle drrr!!!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 08/12/2010, at 1:14 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 oh Bez! Crazy cat!

 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:28 AM, 1-11 1...@bethere.co.uk wrote:

 And then there's thwe Manchester March:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-NlYftA7-M

 -Original Message-
 From: kuszyn...@gmail.com [mailto:kuszyn...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:51 AM
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) NPR on Chicago Footwork music

 hardstyle shuffle is my fave

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:43 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks to all for proving 2 things: Yes white people have originated
 competetive dance culture. And omg are they awful.

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 There is the French Tecktonik dance style too:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbzYXWLVU3o

 - P

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca
 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

 Even more fascinating, I can't think of any analogous dance culture
 amongst white people.



 I remember seeing groups of kids doing weird dance battles to crappy
 hardcore in Alexanderplatz over the last couple of years.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqU21JF2E3w
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dPuuvvKjLA







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Re: (313) Research question about vinyl manipulation

[Kevin Kennedy]

Actually, now that you mention it, Mike (Rotator), who was a stellar
Detroit Drum and Bass DJ, used nearly the same trick:  two spools of
thread, two pencils, and the weight flip/etc...'cept he also put a
rubber band around the two spindles and would make one motor run both
decks for speed synch.  Brilliant.  1996.  He's no longer in the game.

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, gj log...@cox.net wrote:
 maybe not what you're looking for, but Christian Bloch had a metal spindle
 that elevated a record and allowed him to play it upside down, the cartridge
 had to be flipped in the tonearm and the counterbalance weight had to be
 adjusted so that the cart would lift up and press upside down against the
 vinyl.

 -Original Message-
 From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:09 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Research question about vinyl manipulation

 Hi all,

 Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN DETROIT:

 Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle
 exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the grooves
 match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of dramatic vinyl
 manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric grooves, groove
 reversal (starting a record from the inside to play outward), and looped
 grooves.

 Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks!

 --
 Denise Dalphond
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Department of Folklore  Ethnomusicology Indiana University
 http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/





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Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)

[Kevin Kennedy]

Guessing I should chime in.

   What Christian Marclay does is actually an extension of what many
of the DMC battle champions started doing.  Using tape, or other means
to get a record to skip (in time, or a controlled skip).  I've used
the technique before and it is a bunch of fun...When I was creating
musique concrete/experimental works, the turntable was my fourth
instrument usually.

Using four turntables and marking all your records like Marclay does
is pretty interesting, yet the problem is that after awhile, you just
kind of get the feeling that he was done halfway into his performance?

 You can use glue to do it...DAC Crowell at one point got an old
dubplate from Jamaica which had a skip in it (chocolate...LOL), most
guys that I've known to 'mark' their records used the labels from
cassette tapes (remember those things???)

   Denise, your question just made me nostalgicI'm remembering how
I taught myself how to cut a locked groove on an old rek-o-cut mono
lathe...and how proud I was:)




On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:07 AM, AntonBanks.com web...@snet.net wrote:
 Really interesting topic!

 I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking...

 I'd never heard of Christian Marclay before so I checked out the links. I
 don’t find myself saying this too often but I REALLY don't get his music. I
 thought this wass odd because I've come to really like ambient and
 soundscapes. I can tell that there is a definite purpose behind what he is
 doing. Wikipedia pegs him as the unwitting inventor of turntablism and I
 agree with that statement. You can certainly learn a few turntablism
 techniques by watching what he does. It's just that the overall performance
 is totally lost on me.

 -ant-

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Taylor [mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:58 PM
 To: 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Re: Research question about vinyl manipulation


 I don't know if anyone in the dance scene has done anything like this. This
 kind of stuff falls more into the noise scene. I can remember the Time
 Stereo guys drilling holes in records so that they would play off center and
 sound wobbly, but that is the only thing that comes to mind.

 This guy has made a career of that gimmick:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Marclay

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-_lGxib4

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu
 To: ...@hyperreal.org
 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:48 -0400
 Subject: Research question about vinyl manipulation
 Hi all,

 Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN
 DETROIT:

 Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle
 exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the
 grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of
 dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric
 grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play
 outward), and looped grooves.

 Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks!

 --
 Denise Dalphond
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Department of Folklore  Ethnomusicology
 Indiana University
 http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/




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