RE: (313) the face may 1988?

2010-06-15 Thread Robert Taylor
Yazz not Yaz Ken :D 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 15 June 2010 07:22
To: 'Alex Lugo'; Joe Marougi
Cc: 313
Subject: RE: (313) the face may 1988?


Somewhere along the line you chaps have become hopelessly confused, I'm
afraid to say.

1. That is NOT Alison Moyet on the cover.

Alison Moyet was in the UK group Yazoo [with Vince Clarke], AKA Yaz in
the US for copyright considerations.

2. The woman on the cover is a woman who was a UK pop-house act called
'Yaz', late '80s, early '90s.

3. Eric is NOT Vince Clarke. Vince Clarke left Depeche Mode after their
first big hits and commenced a series of projects, including the one
with Alison Moyet, afterwards.

4. The 'Eric' referred to on Yazoo's first LP called 'Upstairs at Eric'
is not a real person of course.

But it is a hint about a real person who was associated with Yazoo early
on: one Mr. Eric C. Radcliffe. [E.C. Radcliffe on the liner notes of the
LP].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Radcliffe

He was a sort of arranger/ manager/ engineer / producer / all-round
figure who knows a lot but prefers to skulk around in the background,
from what I understand.

Now I hope you all were listening, because tomorrow, there will be a
test.

Ken




-Original Message-
From: Alex Lugo [mailto:alugo...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:47 PM
To: Joe Marougi
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) the face may 1988?

That's Vince Clark you're thinking of.



- Original Message 
From: Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com
To: Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs
Cc: James Hancock jahan...@gmail.com; Danielle Scott
ellei...@gmail.com; Tim Baker t...@elephanthaus.com; Alex Lugo
alugo...@yahoo.com; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 4:43:25 PM
Subject: Re: (313) the face may 1988?

Wasn't the guy in the group (Eric?) one of the original Depeche Mode
guys?  In my opinion he took a lot with him after he left DM (after the
first album I believe).  That first album was groovier than post Eric
material.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Ivan Tomasevic
to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs wrote:

 they were known as Yazoo in Europe, and as Yaz in the States. they
 were distributed in the US as Yaz because the name Yazoo was already
 in use by a small American band.

 great band, too.

 On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, James Hancock wrote:

 alsion moyet yes but it is yazoo not yaz

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex-arthur/

 James A Hancock
 ja...@apesound.dk
 +45 30824523

 On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:36, Danielle Scott wrote:

 I don't mean to nitpick but her las name is spelled 'Moyet'.

 -ds

 On 6/14/10, Tim Baker t...@elephanthaus.com wrote:
  Allison Moyer from Yaz
   Tim Baker
  Real Estate-Elephanthaus Recs.
  2544 W. North Ave Suite 2B
  Chicago, IL 60647
  Mobile +1-773-315-1485
  EU Mobile +34-654-887-383
  t...@elephanthaus.com
   On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Alex Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Who is that on the cover?
 - Original Message 
   From: Mike Brown m...@hyperreal.org
   To: 313@hyperreal.org
   Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 2:56:07 AM
   Subject: Re: (313) the face may 1988?
 ohanakin ... wrote:
Anybody know where this lives on the net ? i think its the
issue that broke detroit to the european masses
 http://www.backspinpromo.com/DetroitTechnoTheFaceMay1988.pdf
 
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RE: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau

2010-06-05 Thread Robert Taylor
I want more muck to throw at bookashade please
Hit me back privately if it's too controversial 


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-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] 
Sent: 05 June 2010 19:03
To: kent williams
Cc: 313 Mailinglist List
Subject: Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau

And i totally agree to all of Kent his points! I heard so many diva- 
like stories about Booka Shade that i was just being curious about  
their demands. Yeah.. i think i am gonna start calling Booka Shade  
technodiva's, that or i just just BS :-)

Anyone up for registering technodivas.org?


On 5 jun 2010, at 07:41, kent williams wrote:

 That would be me.

 1) Thanks (as always) for the photos Fred.
 2) Booka Shade are famous for being demanding c*nts. No controversy  
 there.
 3) If anyone cares, Fred is a swell guy.
 4) If anyone cares, Gen P Orridge is completely bonkers. Independent  
 of Fred's opinion of him.
 5) This thread will die of it's own free will.

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:46 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com
kuszyn...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 not sure who the admin is on this list, but this thread should be  
 CLOSED.


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RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

2010-05-25 Thread Robert Taylor
I also take exception to music being described as soul-less. What does
that even mean? 
I find it quite emotional if that's what's meant


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-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:ea...@isolar.dyndns.org] 
Sent: 24 May 2010 20:35
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF prediction

On May 24, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with you Ken to an extent, but like you said, nobody claimed
 that it was good, just that it could be big at DEMF this year.
 Honestly, though, even though i know it's simplistic soulless crap, I
 actually enjoy it quite a bit despite myself.
 
 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Odeluga, Ken
ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 I bought an online copy of that track.
 
 I don't know what the fuss is all about.
 
 To me it seems just like an old fashioned, run-of-the-mill [and off
the conveyor belt] 'minimal' thing.
 
 It's got interesting effects but the sounds are flat, cold and tinny,
and the whole thing is s quite soul-less and meaningless, even in our
world of dance music,
 in which the 'meaning' of music is opaque [at best].

If no one else will claim it's good I will!  It's a perfect summation of
The Knife gone Techno, I think it's absolutely beautiful and where you
could get run-of-the-mill 'minimal' out of it Ken, I don't know ...
did you forget to listen to side B? ;)

OAR003-B reminds me of a warm sunny day, you know, kinda like what
you've had in London today :)

- Greg

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RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

2010-05-25 Thread Robert Taylor
Can you please explain then?  


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 25 May 2010 11:30
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

Well *I* find it soul-less.

That statement has meaning to me.

Wanna fight?

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:20 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

I also take exception to music being described as soul-less. What does
that even mean?
I find it quite emotional if that's what's meant


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-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:ea...@isolar.dyndns.org]
Sent: 24 May 2010 20:35
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF prediction

On May 24, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with you Ken to an extent, but like you said, nobody claimed
 that it was good, just that it could be big at DEMF this year.
 Honestly, though, even though i know it's simplistic soulless crap, I
 actually enjoy it quite a bit despite myself.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Odeluga, Ken
ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 I bought an online copy of that track.

 I don't know what the fuss is all about.

 To me it seems just like an old fashioned, run-of-the-mill [and off
the conveyor belt] 'minimal' thing.

 It's got interesting effects but the sounds are flat, cold and tinny,
and the whole thing is s quite soul-less and meaningless, even in our
world of dance music,
 in which the 'meaning' of music is opaque [at best].

If no one else will claim it's good I will!  It's a perfect summation of
The Knife gone Techno, I think it's absolutely beautiful and where you
could get run-of-the-mill 'minimal' out of it Ken, I don't know ...
did you forget to listen to side B? ;)

OAR003-B reminds me of a warm sunny day, you know, kinda like what
you've had in London today :)

- Greg


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RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

2010-05-25 Thread Robert Taylor
My apologies.
The B side is THE tune that's causing the buzz. It should be the A
side. 
I've only heard the other tune once but can't recall being blown away by
it.

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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 25 May 2010 13:33
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn


Have you read the subsequent posts mate? A lot of people - including me
- think the B side is the part that 'makes' the EP, and don't care much
for the A track.

Dunno if that's what *you* mean. But that qualifies things somewhat.

As for the A side, I just don't hear 'emotion' or 'soul' there at all.

I hear digital, tinny and rather silly sounds [in fact]. OK, there's no
harm in being light-hearted. But then it's a bit of a stretch to expect
such superficiality of tone to be in any shape or form transporting. The
track does nowt for me.

Musical perception is subjective - that goes without saying. I am
surprised you like it so much though. [If indeed you are meaning side A
and not side B].

kEN

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:27 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

Can you please explain then?


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com]
Sent: 25 May 2010 11:30
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

Well *I* find it soul-less.

That statement has meaning to me.

Wanna fight?

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:20 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) was DEMF prediction, now Oni Ayunn

I also take exception to music being described as soul-less. What does
that even mean?
I find it quite emotional if that's what's meant


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-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:ea...@isolar.dyndns.org]
Sent: 24 May 2010 20:35
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF prediction

On May 24, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with you Ken to an extent, but like you said, nobody claimed
 that it was good, just that it could be big at DEMF this year.
 Honestly, though, even though i know it's simplistic soulless crap, I
 actually enjoy it quite a bit despite myself.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Odeluga, Ken
ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 I bought an online copy of that track.

 I don't know what the fuss is all about.

 To me it seems just like an old fashioned, run-of-the-mill [and off
the conveyor belt] 'minimal' thing.

 It's got interesting effects but the sounds are flat, cold and tinny,
and the whole thing is s quite soul-less and meaningless, even in our
world of dance music,
 in which the 'meaning' of music is opaque [at best].

If no one else will claim it's good I will!  It's a perfect summation of
The Knife gone Techno, I think it's absolutely beautiful and where you
could get run-of-the-mill 'minimal' out of it Ken, I don't know ...
did you forget to listen to side B? ;)

OAR003-B reminds me of a warm sunny day, you know, kinda like what
you've had in London today :)

- Greg


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RE: (313) DEMF prediction

2010-05-24 Thread Robert Taylor
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT! But didn't cos it's swedish or something 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 May 2010 18:51
To: KiDD*e
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF prediction

i have another prediction for a track that's going to be big at DEMF
2010:  Oni Ayhun OAR003

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:32 PM, KiDD*e 3...@qui-design.fr wrote:
 Agree for Existence and Funky Souls.
 But i would love to hear sets full of tracks like theses :
 http://www.rubadub.co.uk/?node_id=1.3id=26823
 http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=3768
 Or from Zyntax Motorcity label.

 - K*

 Le 20/05/2010 00:04, David Powers a écrit :

 I know it's a reissue but that Rob Hood Funky Souls track is huge...

 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 i really think at this point the bridge has been out long enough that
 people will be over it.

 i think a lot of people will be playing that KiNK track that nicks
 changes of life

 i haven't heard prommer's jaguar yet.


 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robin Pinningrobin.pinn...@me.com
  wrote:

 Ok, we're a week off but my prediction for most played tune at DEMF is
 Greg
 Gow's 'The Bridge'.

 Any others?

 robin...

 Ps. I know this goes contrary to my previous posts on this Transmat
 release
 but I've heard Kenny Larkin play this out recently :)



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 http://www.infinitestatemachine.com






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RE: (313) DEMF prediction

2010-05-24 Thread Robert Taylor
You're wrong. It's amazing. Not very minimal either. And it has a melody! Which 
is why people might think it could be a big tune at DEMF I suppose. 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 24 May 2010 17:19
To: Robert Taylor; Frank Glazer; KiDD*e
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: RE: (313) DEMF prediction

I bought an online copy of that track.

I don't know what the fuss is all about.

To me it seems just like an old fashioned, run-of-the-mill [and off the 
conveyor belt] 'minimal' thing.

It's got interesting effects but tbe sounds are flat, cold and tinny, and the 
whole thing is s quite soul-less and meaningless, even in our world of dance 
music,
in which the 'meaning' of music is opaque [at best].

If that becomes a DEMF anthem I will make a rubbish track myself and make it 
available for free so that *I* can have the next DEMF 'anfem'.

The only thing interesting about it is the moniker of the artist, in my view.

I am not saying anyone claimed it was good. Merely giving my own couple of 
cents worth.

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:11 PM
To: Frank Glazer; KiDD*e
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: RE: (313) DEMF prediction

I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT! But didn't cos it's swedish or something


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 May 2010 18:51
To: KiDD*e
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF prediction

i have another prediction for a track that's going to be big at DEMF
2010:  Oni Ayhun OAR003

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:32 PM, KiDD*e 3...@qui-design.fr wrote:
 Agree for Existence and Funky Souls.
 But i would love to hear sets full of tracks like theses :
 http://www.rubadub.co.uk/?node_id=1.3id=26823
 http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=3768
 Or from Zyntax Motorcity label.

 - K*

 Le 20/05/2010 00:04, David Powers a écrit :

 I know it's a reissue but that Rob Hood Funky Souls track is huge...

 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 i really think at this point the bridge has been out long enough
 that people will be over it.

 i think a lot of people will be playing that KiNK track that nicks
 changes of life

 i haven't heard prommer's jaguar yet.


 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robin Pinningrobin.pinn...@me.com
  wrote:

 Ok, we're a week off but my prediction for most played tune at DEMF
 is Greg Gow's 'The Bridge'.

 Any others?

 robin...

 Ps. I know this goes contrary to my previous posts on this Transmat
 release but I've heard Kenny Larkin play this out recently :)



 --
 peace,

 frank

 http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 http://www.infinitestatemachine.com






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http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
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RE: (313) Nice 313 style tracks

2010-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
I enjoyed his FACT mix immensely 


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-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 04 May 2010 23:21
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Nice 313 style tracks

Not talking about Kyle, talking about Space Dimension Controller, or
Jason Fine... Kyle seems to be the ONLY one getting mention these
days.

But the truth is, I think there's more good music coming out right now
than any time I remember, but if you read the list you get the
impression that this music is kinda dead, and for some reason that
bugs me.

I will say that perhaps what is lacking is not good releases, but DJ's
championing the best of what's coming out?

~David

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jacob Arnold ja...@gridface.com wrote:
 I wouldn't say Kyle's being slept on. Since his Hyperdub single was
 announced, he's probably done a dozen interviews!

 Jacob


 David Powers wrote:
 Check out this, SPACE DIMENSION CONTROLLER - JOURNEY TO THE CORE OF
 THE UNKNOWN SPHERE (KYLE HALL RMX):
 http://clone.nl/item17188.html

 Also, he has a free LP available here that's quite nice:
 http://www.acroplane.co.uk/node/208

 Do people here still listen to this kind of music??? Seems like I'm
 posting in an echo chamber... It's strange that there's actually
 plenty of good music that is Detroit techno but nobody seems to want
 to talk about it anymore.

 ~David





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RE: (313) festivals of the summer?

2010-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
May is in spring innit 


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From: kuszyn...@gmail.com [mailto:kuszyn...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 May 2010 01:08
To: list 313
Subject: (313) festivals of the summer?

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1185

So I'm either blind as a bat, of resident advisor didn't mention DEMF
as a summer festival?
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RE: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Robert Taylor
One word: ITALO 


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-Original Message-
From: Ravinder S Mann [mailto:rav.m...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 April 2010 14:34
To: kent williams
Cc: Martin Dust; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

I should reword really. Commercial doesn't bother me at all. I can do
cheesy too as there's fun to be found (for a time). Tho' naff is naff.

On 13 April 2010 14:13, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 A lot of Disco is 'naff and commercial' and still kicks butt.  Dr.
 Love for example.

 I had a long discussion with Tom Cox about disco edits and he made a
 valid point -- either a track is too cheesy to play, or it isn't, and
 playing an edit that cuts out the cheesy bits just isn't true to the
 original. You need to embrace the 'naff and commercial' if it comes
 with some soul.

 Not arguing with you, more of a 'yes, and' observation than a 'no,
 but' disputation.

 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Ravinder S Mann rav.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tho' at the time I thought it was a bit naff and commercial.

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RE: (313) AUX88

2010-03-31 Thread Robert Taylor
Perhaps it refers to the rather bizarre Ganguros youth subculture:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro


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-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 March 2010 13:54
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) AUX88

I think that Black really refers to pan-African culture, not skin
color per se... I think it's no different than saying, say, Polish
Paris Project (i.e. the music of Chopin). I don't find anything
offensive about it.

~David

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 It's also not clear what Black Tokyo Project is - and to be honest there is 
 something about the name which to me, seems dumb.

 What is it? Music? Art? Blacks In Tokyo? Why 'Black' anyway?

 Black people you mean? That would be faintly patronizing in my view, if it 
 was referring or alluding to that some sort of cultural jam. That might not 
 be intentionally offensive, but it's still referenced by skin colour. How 
 very 70s!

 Maybe 'Black' as an aesthetic term?

 Dumb, dumb dumb.

 If I was Aux 88 I'd be hesitant in associating with this project as it could 
 cast them in as dubious a light as the project itself - which would be a 
 shame as the group are justifiably well respected for their music.

 Check this out:

 http://www.blacktokyo.com/?p=2923

 It's nothing to do with the Aux 88-linked project, I think, but it's in the 
 same orbit.

 Perhaps there would be a good reason for Aux 88 being involved in such a 
 project if it had worthwhile aims.

 But it would need to be well-thought through and I would suggest it ought to 
 be at the behest of Aux 88, or people like Aux 88 in Japan.

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 AM
 To: Frank Glazer
 Cc: 313 List
 Subject: Re: (313) AUX88

 Sounded like it had been through a translatortwice :)

 robin...

 On 23 Mar 2010, at 23:07, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:

 You know, I love Aux 88.  love love love.  but when i read some
 nonsense like intelligent dance music as well as business and fashion
 ventures am i wrong to snre and tune out?  i mean, come on, i
 know it's cool to try to make a little cash, but am i the only one who
 thinks musicians should stick to music, and that fashion is some
 bullship?

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:09 AM, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote:

 Short interview about the Black Tokyo project:

 http://www.fabriclondon.com/fabricfirst/blog/aux-88-introduce-black-t
 okyo/

 Tommy using NI's Maschine:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXa3hf8FiFk

 robin...




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 peace,

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RE: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Taylor
I think the article makes a number of useful comparisons but it wasn't
intended to be taken too seriously.
I find the various directions dubstep and UK house have taken extremely
interesting though.
Dubstep was so easily dismissed and pigeonholed as one dimensional and
not particularly innovative but it has broadened and diversified in so
many surprising directions. 
Also, many different genres and subgenres in the UK seem to have
converged and ended up sounding very similar which I think ought to be
noticed. 


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-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:phonop...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2010 00:35
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

On 10/03/2010 22:23, kent williams wrote:
 I think the article makes some good points but mostly in the context
 of the UK, where musical sub-genres are written about as though they
 were stars in their own right.

 The Detroit attitude is, I'd hope, more eclectic, and the musicians I
 talk to think more in terms of good or bad than this genre or that
 genre. So I can talk with Alan Oldham about Creation Records Shoegazer
 bands, and with Shake about Cooly G.
The way I read it, he was saying that eclecticism and perpetual 
reinvention is precisely what makes dubstep (so far) like the early days

of Detroit techno - that it is evolving very quickly, pulling in 
influences from all over the shop and is difficult to pin down. I think 
that's a fair point. If you listen to a lot of the best dubstep 
producers' DJ sets you'll find influences from all over the last 25 
years and within the various styles of dubstep.

Also, I think there's a misperception that it's just kids making this 
stuff. Untold has been producing since '93 according to this RA article:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1105

Not that I think the comparison can stretch for miles or that anyone 
should take it out of context.

Ultimately, I'm just getting a bit irritated with people making more out

of it than it is or of writing it off altogether. Whether it's to 
everyone's taste is one thing but I would hope it's evident that this 
isn't narrow or purely derivative. In my mind it's one of the more 
interesting things to happen in a long time precisely because it's not 
as narrow and codified as any of the previous big electronic music 
trends. It's almost the complete opposite.

Tristan
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(313) Article on Detroit in the UK Guardian

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Taylor
 
I haven't read it yet, but thought people on here would be interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/mar/10/detroit-motor-city-urban-decl
ine
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-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] 
Sent: 12 March 2010 14:56
To: phonop...@googlemail.com; kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

I think the article makes a number of useful comparisons but it wasn't
intended to be taken too seriously.
I find the various directions dubstep and UK house have taken extremely
interesting though.
Dubstep was so easily dismissed and pigeonholed as one dimensional and
not particularly innovative but it has broadened and diversified in so
many surprising directions. 
Also, many different genres and subgenres in the UK seem to have
converged and ended up sounding very similar which I think ought to be
noticed. 


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-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:phonop...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2010 00:35
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

On 10/03/2010 22:23, kent williams wrote:
 I think the article makes some good points but mostly in the context
 of the UK, where musical sub-genres are written about as though they
 were stars in their own right.

 The Detroit attitude is, I'd hope, more eclectic, and the musicians I
 talk to think more in terms of good or bad than this genre or that
 genre. So I can talk with Alan Oldham about Creation Records Shoegazer
 bands, and with Shake about Cooly G.
The way I read it, he was saying that eclecticism and perpetual 
reinvention is precisely what makes dubstep (so far) like the early days

of Detroit techno - that it is evolving very quickly, pulling in 
influences from all over the shop and is difficult to pin down. I think 
that's a fair point. If you listen to a lot of the best dubstep 
producers' DJ sets you'll find influences from all over the last 25 
years and within the various styles of dubstep.

Also, I think there's a misperception that it's just kids making this 
stuff. Untold has been producing since '93 according to this RA article:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1105

Not that I think the comparison can stretch for miles or that anyone 
should take it out of context.

Ultimately, I'm just getting a bit irritated with people making more out

of it than it is or of writing it off altogether. Whether it's to 
everyone's taste is one thing but I would hope it's evident that this 
isn't narrow or purely derivative. In my mind it's one of the more 
interesting things to happen in a long time precisely because it's not 
as narrow and codified as any of the previous big electronic music 
trends. It's almost the complete opposite.

Tristan

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RE: (313) Article on Detroit in the UK Guardian

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Oh, and the film in question is on BBC2 tomorrow:
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rkm3y

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-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor 
Sent: 12 March 2010 14:58
To: Robert Taylor; phonop...@googlemail.com; kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: (313) Article on Detroit in the UK Guardian

 
I haven't read it yet, but thought people on here would be interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/mar/10/detroit-motor-city-urban-decl
ine
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-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] 
Sent: 12 March 2010 14:56
To: phonop...@googlemail.com; kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

I think the article makes a number of useful comparisons but it wasn't
intended to be taken too seriously.
I find the various directions dubstep and UK house have taken extremely
interesting though.
Dubstep was so easily dismissed and pigeonholed as one dimensional and
not particularly innovative but it has broadened and diversified in so
many surprising directions. 
Also, many different genres and subgenres in the UK seem to have
converged and ended up sounding very similar which I think ought to be
noticed. 


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-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:phonop...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 11 March 2010 00:35
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit

On 10/03/2010 22:23, kent williams wrote:
 I think the article makes some good points but mostly in the context
 of the UK, where musical sub-genres are written about as though they
 were stars in their own right.

 The Detroit attitude is, I'd hope, more eclectic, and the musicians I
 talk to think more in terms of good or bad than this genre or that
 genre. So I can talk with Alan Oldham about Creation Records Shoegazer
 bands, and with Shake about Cooly G.
The way I read it, he was saying that eclecticism and perpetual 
reinvention is precisely what makes dubstep (so far) like the early days

of Detroit techno - that it is evolving very quickly, pulling in 
influences from all over the shop and is difficult to pin down. I think 
that's a fair point. If you listen to a lot of the best dubstep 
producers' DJ sets you'll find influences from all over the last 25 
years and within the various styles of dubstep.

Also, I think there's a misperception that it's just kids making this 
stuff. Untold has been producing since '93 according to this RA article:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1105

Not that I think the comparison can stretch for miles or that anyone 
should take it out of context.

Ultimately, I'm just getting a bit irritated with people making more out

of it than it is or of writing it off altogether. Whether it's to 
everyone's taste is one thing but I would hope it's evident that this 
isn't narrow or purely derivative. In my mind it's one of the more 
interesting things to happen in a long time precisely because it's not 
as narrow and codified as any of the previous big electronic music 
trends. It's almost the complete opposite.

Tristan

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(313) Croydon Is New Detroit

2010-03-10 Thread Robert Taylor
http://dontpaniconline.com/magazine/croydon-the-new-detroit

Discuss.

Heheheheheh.
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RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Taylor
Not sure about that - I know of other, thriving email lists 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2010 15:45
To: 'Matt Kane's Brain'
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :)

I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk
of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all.

I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with
twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered.

Ken




-Original Message-
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
wrote:
 Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,'
'the,' 'of,' ...

 I know I'm not helping much though ;-)

 Is 313 over?

Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all
the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so
outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong.

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RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Taylor
Yes, email lists serve, er..'specialist' interests very well, but then
so does the rest of  the internet.


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2010 16:00
To: Robert Taylor; Matt Kane's Brain
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

Yeah me too, but those lists tend to be much more geekishly committed to
a cause than we are here.

For instance, I'm a member of the INFJ list (so who am I calling
geekish, eh? I know, I know...).

http://www.infj.org/

Even on that digest I get around 3 mails a day, not to mention the fact
that the MIME type is actually legible on my mobile device too, ahem!



-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:49 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken; Matt Kane's Brain
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

Not sure about that - I know of other, thriving email lists


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com]
Sent: 22 February 2010 15:45
To: 'Matt Kane's Brain'
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :)

I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk
of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all.

I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with
twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered.

Ken




-Original Message-
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
wrote:
 Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,'
'the,' 'of,' ...

 I know I'm not helping much though ;-)

 Is 313 over?

Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all
the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so
outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong.

--
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http://hydrogenproject.com
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RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Taylor
+1

(joke!) 


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-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2010 16:12
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

Personally, I feel an email list is for literate people who actually
use sentences and paragraphs and have substantial ideas and opinions.
One rarely sees that on forums, and twitter and facebook aren't worth
mentioning as mediums of actual communication.

It seems that people are losing either the desire or the ability to
communicate at all using written language. If you ask me, even chimps
could probably learn to twitter...

That being said, something's going on here and I wonder if it has more
to do with diverging musical tastes, or lack of interest in Detroit
music. I've noticed Andrew Duke and I posting on-topic messages about
actual music we like, including but not limited to 313 music, and
there was absolutely no response.

Theories:
1. People on the list aren't buying new music, or
2. People are buying new music, but they don't want to discuss it, or
3. Our tastes just don't coincide so we have too little common ground
for discussion, or
4. People's need for communication is indeed fulfilled through other
outlets such as forums and facebook, etc.

~David

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
wrote:
 Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :)

 I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the
bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all.

 I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with
twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered.

 Ken




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 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM
 To: Odeluga, Ken
 Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando

 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
wrote:
 Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,'
'the,' 'of,' ...

 I know I'm not helping much though ;-)

 Is 313 over?

 Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious
all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's
so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong.

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RE: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-12 Thread Robert Taylor
That would be brilliant - almost enough to make me want to buy a ticket 


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Subject: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

DEMF-related:

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RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D

2009-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists.
This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too.
It would be great if it could happen in Detroit.
Is there much of a squat scene in the US?
In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage 
arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' 
neigbourhoods.
This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: 
http://www.liveattheapollo.org/
But it's happening all over:
http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops

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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47
To: Arturo Lopez
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism 
about the D

I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to
Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever.  Places where people
can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation
of new art.

I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is.  But if
you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To
me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all
it's waiting for is the right spark.

Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and
as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the
world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living
there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate,
the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good.  And somehow every
'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help
the poorest of the poor.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1

 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly
 cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside
 journalists come to the city.

 I loved the line about a bunch of Billyburg hipsters moving to the
 city to start urban farms.  Mostly because this is an actual dream of
 my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants
 her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha.

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RE: (313) new transmat

2009-10-15 Thread Robert Taylor
Who made it? 


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https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/195933/the_pi
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RE: (313) Techno and Youth

2009-09-11 Thread Robert Taylor
Check out this mix by Cooly G - definitely some 'techno' elements in
there. I'm loving this new take on an old sound
 
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=
2507Itemid=28

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Sent: 10 September 2009 17:16
To: list 313
Subject: (313) Techno and Youth

Something Ive been thinking about recently

In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat.
Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its
like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release.
But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as
its pure party music.

And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release
with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that
to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why
is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ?


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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
Plenty of DJs play there. Israel, Indonesia, Britain and the US too. ;) 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 08 September 2009 10:20
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Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview


On 8 Sep 2009, at 08:43, Ravinder S Mann wrote:

 Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail.  
 Anyhow. . .

 Interview with DJ Bone

 Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and  
 haterz.

 http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html

Can't believe he played China, each to their own and that but...

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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
When Surgeon played out there, it was largely to an ex-pat crowd, rather
than 'the people' 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 08 September 2009 11:14
To: Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; Ravinder S Mann
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play
there nowadays.

Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from overseas
because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic of that.

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Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

Plenty of DJs play there. Israel, Indonesia, Britain and the US too. ;)


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 10:20
To: Ravinder S Mann
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview


On 8 Sep 2009, at 08:43, Ravinder S Mann wrote:

 Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail.
 Anyhow. . .

 Interview with DJ Bone

 Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and
 haterz.

 http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html

Can't believe he played China, each to their own and that but...

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RE: (313) Playing In China

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
China is very much a secular state Martin! 


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I just find it hard to support a totalitarian theocracy Ken.

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RE: (313) Playing In China

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
State capitalist/social imperialist really ;)
This is way way OT now :)
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Sent: 08 September 2009 12:36
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Subject: Re: (313) Playing In China


On 8 Sep 2009, at 12:28, Robert Taylor wrote:

 China is very much a secular state Martin!

Go tell that to Tibet Rob!

But I think the statement of Totalitarianism is correct as China was  
still a communist last time I checked.

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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
Not quite as repressive - they don't tend to lock people up for speaking
their mind in the US and the UK - well, only a few  


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-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 September 2009 16:20
To: Martin Dust
Cc: Ken Odeluga; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as 
China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all!

~David

Martin Dust wrote:
 
 On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
 
 Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play

 there nowadays.

 Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from
overseas 
 because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic of
that.
 
 As Rob pointed out, it's hardly the people Ken and I just choose not

 to support an oppressive regime or the bourgeoisie expat milking the 
 fcuk out of everyone else - take about cheap holiday in other peoples 
 misery...not for me.
 
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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
It's hard to respond to your post when you seem to be replying to things
I never said.
I didn't claim to understand politics there and neither did I say that
real Chinese people wouldn't appreciate outside culture.
Maybe you're replying to the wrong person - it's hard to tell as you
haven't quoted anyone 


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Sent: 08 September 2009 17:19
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Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

China is a big country. In some places people are persecuted for
things they are not elsewhere. It's a very complex country and as
everyone knows it's in the midst of a rapid transformation. Who are
you, as an uninformed foreigner, to presume you understand the
politics there...and to then make some leap of logic that real Chinese
people wouldn't appreciate outside culture? It sounds utterly moronic
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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
The man himself said he played to a mostly ex-pat crowd when he posted the set 
he played in Shanghai to his site 


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From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 September 2009 17:32
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in generalities.

But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as
per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to
represent a larger point.



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 It's hard to respond to your post when you seem to be replying to things
 I never said.
 I didn't claim to understand politics there and neither did I say that
 real Chinese people wouldn't appreciate outside culture.
 Maybe you're replying to the wrong person - it's hard to tell as you
 haven't quoted anyone


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 Sent: 08 September 2009 17:19
 To: Robert Taylor
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

 China is a big country. In some places people are persecuted for
 things they are not elsewhere. It's a very complex country and as
 everyone knows it's in the midst of a rapid transformation. Who are
 you, as an uninformed foreigner, to presume you understand the
 politics there...and to then make some leap of logic that real Chinese
 people wouldn't appreciate outside culture? It sounds utterly moronic
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RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
I think techno is quite popular over there - didn't Technasia have a
radio show that broadcasted all over techno?
But I think the clubs are prohibitively expensive to all but the richest
people, much like in Russia. 


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-Original Message-
From: 3...@coke-smyth.net [mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net] 
Sent: 08 September 2009 17:56
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview

there is also the issue of 'accepting elitist techno' into Chinese
territory too, no? I was surprised that he was even allowed to play at
all...

C

 The man himself said he played to a mostly ex-pat crowd when he posted
the
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 -Original Message-
 From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 08 September 2009 17:32
 To: Robert Taylor
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

 Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in
generalities.

 But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as
 per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to
 represent a larger point.



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Taylorrdtay...@channel4.co.uk
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 It's hard to respond to your post when you seem to be replying to
things
 I never said.
 I didn't claim to understand politics there and neither did I say
that
 real Chinese people wouldn't appreciate outside culture.
 Maybe you're replying to the wrong person - it's hard to tell as you
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 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview

 China is a big country. In some places people are persecuted for
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 everyone knows it's in the midst of a rapid transformation. Who are
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RE: (313) Live sets (was (313) ping)

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Matt Chester - more Detroit than Detroit ;) 


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From: Matt Chester [mailto:chesterm...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 06 August 2009 15:25
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Subject: (313) Live sets (was (313) ping)

Lets talk about live sets for a change - who are your favourite Detroit 
live artists  why?   
I saw Rob Hood live recently and was pretty disappointed - he was doing 
the whole 'play one track, stop, reprogram, play another track' thing.

A lot of detroit artists seem to do that, performing more like a band, 
i've never really understood why.   Does anyone here prefer that kind of

show to a continuously evolving set? 
Carl Craig last year at the festival was phenomenal I thought - he gets
plenty of criticism these days for various reasons but that totally blew

me away...Scan 7  Octave One both do very tight shows too. 

NB -No chat about hardware vs laptop btw, this is strictly about 
talent!   And first person to mention Jeff or Richie gets a severe 
beating...  :p



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 Sometimes when people went all quiet I posted something just to get a 
 discussion going, but I've decided that as list admin it's kind of a 
 cheesy thing to do, so I've stopped.

 Sometimes I think that pretty much every possible thing to be said 
 about Detroit Techno has been said already on this list, multiple 
 times, well and poorly, so we await new developments, which can be 
 thin on the ground, especially in summer.

 It's like the contemporary authors whose books I read. There are 15 or

 20 authors whose books I will read as soon as they're published.  Most

 of the time I'm caught up, and I just want them to write faster.

   

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RE: (313) Live sets (was (313) ping)

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Taylor
I beg your pardon? 


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-Original Message-
From: 3...@coke-smyth.net [mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net] 
Sent: 06 August 2009 15:43
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Live sets (was (313) ping)

little D, Rob, little D

 Matt Chester - more Detroit than Detroit ;)


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 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Chester [mailto:chesterm...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: 06 August 2009 15:25
 To: list 313
 Subject: (313) Live sets (was (313) ping)

 Lets talk about live sets for a change - who are your favourite 
 Detroit live artists  why?
 I saw Rob Hood live recently and was pretty disappointed - he was 
 doing the whole 'play one track, stop, reprogram, play another track'
thing.

 A lot of detroit artists seem to do that, performing more like a band,
 i've never really understood why.   Does anyone here prefer that kind
of

 show to a continuously evolving set?
 Carl Craig last year at the festival was phenomenal I thought - he 
 gets plenty of criticism these days for various reasons but that 
 totally blew

 me away...Scan 7  Octave One both do very tight shows too.

 NB -No chat about hardware vs laptop btw, this is strictly about
 talent!   And first person to mention Jeff or Richie gets a severe
 beating...  :p



 kent williams wrote:
 Sometimes when people went all quiet I posted something just to get a

 discussion going, but I've decided that as list admin it's kind of a 
 cheesy thing to do, so I've stopped.

 Sometimes I think that pretty much every possible thing to be said 
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 times, well and poorly, so we await new developments, which can be 
 thin on the ground, especially in summer.

 It's like the contemporary authors whose books I read. There are 15 
 or

 20 authors whose books I will read as soon as they're published.  
 Most

 of the time I'm caught up, and I just want them to write faster.



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RE: (313) Yet Another Dutch Treat From An Unusual Quarter.... (Radio Stuff)

2009-07-09 Thread Robert Taylor
I look forward to this weekend's show - sounds awesome!


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From: Richard Hester [mailto:gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: 09 July 2009 09:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org; i...@hyperreal.org; def-annou...@defsf.com
Subject: (313) Yet Another Dutch Treat From An Unusual Quarter
(Radio Stuff)

Last Week's Wild Kingdom was cobbed together from a stack of unplayed
records pulled at random from the Goodwrench Vault of Mystery - I know
when I haven't played them, as records I've used have a poly sleeve with
track numbers and pitch setting marked on masking tape. At any rate, the
set went much better than I expected for working with records that were
needle-virgin until the show. The playlist resides at
http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=33090 . Yesterday I did my
monthly appearance on KFJC's Jazz Kollektiv. If you're interested, the
playlist is at http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=33107 (I like to
keep a lot of irons in the fire). It's time for another Dutch Treat on
the Wild Kingdom, this time coming from the shadowy interface between
techno and industrial. It'll be Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia and splinter
group Exquisite Corpse this weekend. I've been rooting around in my
stacks, and I have enough material for a comfortable 1 1/2 hours,
especially as a lot of their tracks are on the long side to begin with.

Limited time archives for KFJC programming are now available at
http://www.kfjc.org/broadcast_archives/ . Send comments and suggestions
to i...@kfjc.org .

The Wild Kingdom airs on KFJC-FM 89.7, Saturday night/Sunday Morning,
12A-3A (8A-10A GMT). Potential listeners outside the San Francisco Bay
area can find a webcast at  http://www.kfjc.org/netcast/index.php . 
Present and past Wild Kingdom playlists are also archived at kfjc.org. 
You can also check out archived playlists from my first KFJC show Just
Desserts that was on Fridays 10P-2A from 1992 through 1999. Archived
playlists exist for that show starting from Fall 1995 to New Year's Eve
1999/2000, so you can see what what I'm up to these days is pretty much
consistent with what I was up to all along.

If you do tune in (especially via the web), please take a little time to
let me know your locale. I'm also interested in promo music from all
over and in promoting local (San Francisco Bay area) techno-type events.

If you want to do some promotion for an event, contact the KFJC
promotions department at pr...@kfjc.org to arrange ticket giveaways
and/or to send information for inclusion in our concert outlook. Thanks
to those who have sent promo music so far.

Regards,

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RE: (313) mills the good robot

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Taylor
I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres 


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Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24
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Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com
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 We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a 
 reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't

 think there was many for Surgeon though :)

Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty
Detroit-esque for UK dubsep.  Love Dub especially is a sweet track.

Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken.
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RE: (313) mills the good robot

2009-06-25 Thread Robert Taylor
 DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter
what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. -
unless you have a silly haircut :p


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-Original Message-
From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41
To: David Powers
Cc: 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot

Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent.

Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if
she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a
heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope
I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing
all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but
rather, strictly for their talent.

DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter
what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to 
 anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-)

 Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really

 fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar 
 Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the 
 last year.

 But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly.

 ~David

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Jason,

 I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on 
 this side of the ocean as well.:)

 jw


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RE: (313) No comment.

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Taylor

 http://oldskool.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/richie_hawtin.jpg


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-Original Message-
From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:detroittechnomili...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 May 2009 03:10
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) No comment.

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/itrystuff/strictlydickly.jpg

Angela Schwendemann
Label Manager
Detroit Techno Militia
http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
313-449-8655



On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
 http://richly.hawtin.jp/

        - Greg


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RE: (313) No comment.

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Taylor
WTF? You support homosexuals, but you can't stand the thought that one
of your heroes might be one, which you think might be the case cos
there's a pic on the net of him wearing tight jeans and he was once
filmed giving Sven V a sweaty e-hug. There are so many levels of
lameness in the below post 


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-Original Message-
From: david smith [mailto:bassline...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 May 2009 01:12
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) No comment.

Is this a joke?  I thought it was a gay pr00n site at first glance--I
mean with the butt shot and all.  Call it rage from working on a pyramid
all night long in what should be a Michigan paradise but this has to be
a spoof like this crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmkNmjL1YCE --it
has to be a look-a like, I support homosexuals but say it aint
so--hawtin was a hero for me in high school.  If it is real I don't want
to know, otherwise I will join the band wagon with all you other haters
as my cherished music would become nothing but background music fueled
by a boy-band coke machine.
- Original Message -
From: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: (313) No comment.


 http://i44.tinypic.com/33eq4br.jpg


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 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:59 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) No comment.

 On May 8, 2009, at 8:58 PM PDT, I wrote:

 http://richly.hawtin.jp/

 Apparently Fact Magazine is reading (313).  See item #1:

 http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=view;
 id=2523Itemid=105

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RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

2009-05-08 Thread Robert Taylor
Grace Jones is awesome, but she is only one act of many
The crowd has changed at Sonar too, much in the same way that Movement's
seems to have changed.
And Sonar is now more notable for the off-Sonar events than the main
events themselves. 


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-Original Message-
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 May 2009 21:09
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Denise Dalphond; kent williams; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival
roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk
wrote:
 It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has

I don't know how to interpret as I have not paid attention to Sonar in
several years. But... Grace Jones?!

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RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

2009-05-07 Thread Robert Taylor
There's been many a comment online at the absence of black people from
that promo vid 


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From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] 
Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56
To: 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival
roll call? anybody making t-shirts?


On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Looks awesome!
 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=5
 6327624
 ;)


All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a
fit. :)

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RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

2009-05-07 Thread Robert Taylor
It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has 


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-Original Message-
From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] 
Sent: 07 May 2009 16:05
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll 
call? anybody making t-shirts?

Well said Kent.

I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties.  And even though there is a 
lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great 
musicians that I can't wait to see perform.  The fact that Al Ester and Stacey 
Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool.  They 
have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades.  Minx is 
playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage!  All the 
Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too.  And the 
electrobounce/Starski  Clutch business should be great as usual.

Obviously that promo video is not meant for us or for most Detroiters.  
Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not 
putting on a Detroit music festival and they don't do a good job in getting 
Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still 
happening here and I think that's a good thing.  It would be so fabulous if it 
really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local 
and African American crowd.  I would love to know if the festival planners 
actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival.  I 
wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to 
Detroit residents.  I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit.  I wonder 
if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi.

I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are 
just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit.

Denise

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly.  Not that she doesn't deserve 
 recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person 
 featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans.

 Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your 
 concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and 
 feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno 
 fans, like the people on this mailing list.  And in case you haven't 
 noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going 
 age group.  What percentage of people under 25 even know what an 
 E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so 
 hard to make a festival.

 We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of 
 us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general 
 awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many 
 people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself.  Plus even if the lineup 
 was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating 
 going on about it.

 If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too.  Maybe 
 it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic 
 lineups for dirt cheap than ever before.  And you can see Omar-S 
 during the day at a rooftop party!

 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote:
 Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im 
 sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed 
 to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ?

 Rav





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RE: (313) Seiji? The hell?

2009-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
No, Seiji is English and his real name is Paul :) 


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-Original Message-
From: UI Design [mailto:uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 May 2009 17:10
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Seiji? The hell?

I'm curious if this is the same Seiji I went to Uni with in Liverpool.
 He was from Japan, and he was a very talented and diverse creative
mind.  I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to blend various genres of
music and make it seamless.  In all aspects of the work I saw him do, he
had this talent..., from producing events, to creating video, to
composing music, to operating interactive midi systems, to web design.
I remember one day he asked me to teach him web design, and two days
later he took the 1 hour tutorial I had given him and taught himself how
to make a website.  Pure genius.

Does anyone know if this is the same Seiji?

Jodie

On 5/6/09, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seiji is a UK producer who has been all over the map stylistically, 
 from Drum  Bass, to Broken Beat to who knows what.  He's started 
 sporadically giving away tracks at http://www.seiji.co.uk/

 Where you can get this track:
 http://www.seiji.co.uk/file_download/5/Ravin+A.mp3

 which an insanely catchy track that is all over the place. 707 kick?
 Breakbeats? 303 Line? Detroit-style chunky piano chords?

 It's cheeky to pitch all those elements into one track, but it's rare 
 that it all hangs together this well.



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RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?

2009-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Looks awesome!  
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=56327624
;)

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-Original Message-
From: Williams, Graham [mailto:gwilli...@eds.com] 
Sent: 06 May 2009 17:12
To: Lori Draper; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll 
call? anybody making t-shirts?

I saw Doppler last year, not really a live gig! A backing cd with some 
occasional playing of the keyboard. I wasn't at all impressed. Although the 
diehard fans loved it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to see them again.

g


-Original Message-
From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com]
Sent: 06 May 2009 16:51
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll 
call? anybody making t-shirts?

I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's 
shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there 
earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe 
the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup 
activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers.

Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then 
driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the 
Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it:

5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar
617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701
Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, 
Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt's first US live performance. Presented by: 
Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly 
required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT 
guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to:
http://www.scion.com/houseparty/

This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in.

any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it!

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote:

 I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone 
 gives me a reason not to.

 On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote:

 Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward 
 to seeing my friends from detroit.

  Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread.

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is 
 not my first choice.  Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual 
 nonsense of course).

 Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for 
 architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market 
 completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no 
 sweat, though.

 Party hard for us that can't make it!

 -Art




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RE: (313) twitter in the dj booth

2009-05-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Horsesh!t
If you think someone's a w*nker, just say so
It's a fun and natural and beautiful thing to bitch about people whose 
music/taste/face/haircut you don't like
Player-hating - what a rubbish concept


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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:the...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 May 2009 18:25
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) twitter in the dj booth

Okay, maybe you have missed my point.

My point is that all of the player hating is press for this individual (whose 
name I refuse to type).  Does he not generate enough of his own?

My point is that even with all of the things that I find wrong with him 
(including his love for the drug-addled portion of the scene), I think that we 
should hate the game, not the player.

In otherwords, if you don't like what he does, keep his name out of your mouth.

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com wrote:
 isn't it already crystal clear that he's not actually twittering 
 anyone with this thing?

 traktor is.  track names, only.  big deal.

 On May 1, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote:

 I have this belief that all of us are jealous a bit of what he has 
 accomplished without support from the 313.  I have to say that given 
 that HE has accomplished being a pop icon without being a pop icon, 
 and people follow (including those on this list) what he does with 
 intensity.

 It is troubling that a post mentioning his name gets many many 
 responses, yet 313 related music seems to go largely unnoticed.  I 
 currently don't care that  he's twittering.  He's not following me 
 yet.
 Forget this person, by our press online we subliminally support HIM.

   He's not paid to play my records, he knows who I am (I own his old 
 DAT machine).
 It really doesn't matter at all.

    This is all I have to say on the matter.

 fbk

 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Cyclone Wehner 
 cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au wrote:


 On 01/05/2009, at 12:13 AM, kent williams wrote:

 And more than that, what DJ wants to play in front of a crowd glued 
 to their cellies?

 I think it's too late, that's already the norm!



 I think Richie is an OK guy -- really, I'm not being sarcastic. But 
 he needs to get out of the freaking echo chamber he's built up 
 around himself.  Can you imagine -- just as an example -- Omar-S 
 twittering from the DJ Booth? DJ Bone? Buzz Goree? Theo Parrish? Ron Hardy?
 Those guys don't need technology to mediate between them and their 
 audience -- they're ALREADY INTERACTING INTIMATELY WITH THEIR 
 AUDIENCE.

 To be fair to Richie, he's never been an 'extrovert' DJ or 
 performance based DJ. He's probably the one DJ who could get away 
 with tweeting and make an 'art' of it.






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RE: (313) London next weekend?

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Taylor
Not quite - this is on and sure to be fun:
Dream Machine, Saturday 14th:

 Dream Machine celebrate Einstein's birthday at the Russian Bar. Upstairs, 
Manchester's Inserted and English Electric will be kicking out the radioactive 
jams, meanwhile downstairs Spectral Empire and J.Nash will be playing the 
tripped out mutant beats all night long. Come and party to the atomic age. 

Upstairs (Cybernetic Jamz): English Electric [Live](Mighty Robot Recordings, 
Dumb Terminal), Inserted (Intergalactic FM), Rick Hopkins, Jonny 5 

Downstairs (Psych, Slow Jamz, Proto Techno and Early Electronica): Spectral 
Empire (Thisisnotanexit), Jonny Nash (Discosession) 

14th March 2009 
10pm-5am 

The Russian Bar, 267 Kingsland Road, London, E2 8AS 

http://www.myspace.com/thedreamachine 
http://www.gakfoundation.org 
http://robotdj.net/?dj=inserted 
http://www.myspace.com/englisheelectric 
http://www.myspace.com/jonathanwilliamnash 
http://www.myspace.com/spectralempire 


£5 on the door, limited £3 advance tickets available here 
http://wegottickets.com/event/43524


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-Original Message-
From: Matt Chester [mailto:chesterm...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 06 March 2009 15:34
To: Mike Davis
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) London next weekend?

I think the entire city is emptying for the Bloc weekender - there is still a 
small handful of tickets left for that though I think..

Mike Davis wrote:
 London, UK next week/weekend.  Any worthwhile events going on?

 -m

   


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RE: (313) odd question

2009-02-23 Thread Robert Taylor
The first bit sounds like them or The Clash, but the bit at 57 secs
sounds like Art Of Noise 


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-Original Message-
From: Paul Thurston [mailto:pau...@orcon.net.nz] 
Sent: 23 February 2009 04:34
To: 'David Smith'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) odd question

Sounds like Big Audio Dynamite 

-Original Message-
From: David Smith [mailto:bassline...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:11 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) odd question

More likely Skatemaster Tate than Stac.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:37:02 -0500
JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can't barely hear it!
 
 Maybe Stacey Peralta made it, he had some hot jams
 
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Marsel van der Wielen 
 mar...@nomorewords.net wrote:
 
  anyone idea which is this old school electro / breaktbeat tune?
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oI_T1b0uas
  starting 57 sec
 
 
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RE: (313) model 500 video quiz in san francisco

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Taylor
I got 75% by mostly guessing 


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-Original Message-
From: james.hurl...@utoronto.ca [mailto:james.hurl...@utoronto.ca] 
Sent: 19 January 2009 22:46
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) model 500 video quiz in san francisco

I prefer this one :) http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_detroit_are_you_2

some shaky vids from rex two weeks ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zXDg3f-kLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKAn-NeQkfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLpZLJTTbBM

playing in SF this friday at UndergroundSF with the legendary Dr.  
Siska. come buy me a drink

james


Quoting Benoît Pueyo benoit.pu...@gmail.com:

 he he i didnt reach the 10/10.

 Wasnt Derrick May spare room a correct answer too ???


 --
 Benoît.

 Andrew Duke a écrit :
 Marsel van der Wielen wrote:

 this is the one i meant
 :-)

 http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=256561

 Not sure about the average person, but for anyone on 313, the above 
 is too darn easy!
 Andrew


 David Beattie schreef:
 Hi Marcel,

 I did a quick search through my email history and found 2 quiz   
 URL's from 313 but neither of them worked one looked incomplete   
 to start with and the other was from 05 Cheers BT


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 From: mar...@nomorewords.net mar...@nomorewords.net
 Subject: (313) 313 geek quiz
 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 11:23 AM i remeber there was 
 some kinda quiz on the net anyone remembers/know the url/address?

 thx!










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RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Taylor
That looks like a dreadful 9 hours! 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 07:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Found this link to a great, very long set by Laurent Garnier (still one of my 
favourite dj's and has some 313 in his blood ) done on NYE in London (well Layo 
and Bushwacka are not really 313 but they played a few tracks as well:-)

Thought some of u out there might like it, check his tracklist..some crazy 
tunez are played. If u are not into, sorry to waste ur bandwith, just click and 
delete.

http://deepgoa.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/laurent-garnier-layo-bushwacka-end-london-31-12-2008/


[0:00:00] Vincenzo - The Resident
[0:01:38] Wagon Cookin - Mallorca (Sasse Remix) [0:06:58] Spirit Catcher - 
Loving System [0:12:07] ID [0:16:48] Lee Jones - Safari (Stimming Remix) 
[0:22:18] Tiger Stripes - Hooked (Solomun Remix) [0:2x:xx] ID [0:28:58] Dirt 
Crew - Soundwave [0:34:50] ID [0:39:42] Matthias Meyer - Tout Va Bien (liebe 
detail) [0:45:31] ID [0:50:25] ID [0:55:35] ID [0:59:29] Freestyle Orchestra - 
Don't tell me

[1:05:16] Ce Ce Roger - Someday
[1:10:34] ID
[1:19:25] Tigerskin - Peter's Secret Weapon [1:24:14] ID [1:30:41] Omar S - 
Psychotic photosynthesis [1:36:44] Nikola Gala - Kilo Tango [1:44:08] Omar feat 
Stevie Wonder - Feeling You (Henrik Schwarz mix) [1:50:32] Inner City - Good 
Life (Carl Craig Remix) [1:55:xx] Sven Tasnadi - Waiting For A Sign

(Countdown to 2009)

[1:58:15] Marvin Gaye - I Heard it Through the Grapevine ( ? Remix) [2:04:30] 
Henrik Schwarz  Amampando - I Exist Because of You (Dixons's Stripped Down 
Version) [2:10:49] Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix) 
[2:16:46] ID [2:22:13] ID [2:27:06] ID [2:30:42] ID [2:36:10] ID [2:41:40] Kink 
 Neville Watson - Blueprint [2:46:45] Audio Soul Project - Reality Check 
(Vincenzo Remix) [2:51:07] ID [2:56:22] Rocco  Claude Monnet - 90's (SSOH)

[3:01:52] ID
[3:07:35] Patrice Bäumel - Javelin
[3:12:19] Paolo Driver - Ok samba
[3:18:40] Dj Simi - Errore di sistema
[3:23:00] Tiefschwarz - Liquid cherries
[3:30:46] ID
[3:35:31] ID
[3:41:02] Pitto - Sexvibe
[3:46:37] Bohannon - Let's start to dance again [3:51:22] ID [3:55:32] ID 
[3:58:03] ID

[4:00:41] Stanton Warriors ft. Big Daddy Kane - Get Wild Off This (Bassbin 
Twins Remix) [4:04:05] ID [4:09:07] Varoslav feat. dOP - Inside Ways (Boris 
Werner Remix) [4:15:45] ID [4:20:22] Ilario Alicante - Living near Africa 
[4:25:22] ID [4:29:16] Ben Westbeech - Hang Around (Wahoo Dub) (Brownswood) 
[4:32:34] Mumbassa - Wipe The Needle OR Wudwerd - Bocas Del Toras (Alex Santos 
Remix) [4:37:42] Laurent Garnier - Back To My Roots [4:46:45] Layo  Bushwacka 
- Now Is The Time [4:51:49] ID (Laurent Garniers Demo track)

[5:05:30] Dubfire  Oliver Huntemann - Dios [5:10:22] ID [5:15:44] 
Lutzenkirchen - All That Jazz (Popof Remix 01) [5:19:44] Dubfire - Emissions 
[5:25:05] ID [5:28:29] ID [5:35:14] Mathias Kaden - Perclue [5:41:02] The Aztec 
Mystic - Jaguar [5:45:18] Slam - Azure (Samuel L Session Remix) [5:49:57] 
Laurent Garnier - The Man With The Red Face (Live?) [5:58:58] High Contrast - 
Sleepless

[6:02:37] ID
[6:07:48] DJ Krust - Malice (Full Cycle) [6:10:10] Nancy Sinatra - These Boots 
Are Made For Walkin'(remix?) [6:13:18] Sandy - Notice Me (remix?/some 
bootleg?/dub?) [6:19:04] Luke Solomon - Spirits (Prins Thomas disko tek miks) 
[6:25:55] Timo Maas - Subtellite [6:32:00] Paul Ritch - Walk the line [6:38:12] 
Jesper Dahlback - I Love Water [6:43:18] ID [6:48:53] ID [6:53:20] Julian 
Jeweil - Saint Mitre (Danton Eeprom Rmx) (Skryptom) [6:58:20] Blunt - Golden 
Shoot (Djinxx Vision)

[7:03:40] Ramon Tapia - Tanzgefuehl
[7:07:47] ID
[7:12:55] ID
[7:16:08] ID
[7:21:30] Ricardo Vilalobos - Enfants
[7:26:22] Par Grindvik - Do us Part (Len Faki Remix) [7:29:22] ID [7:33:20] ID 
[7:37:50] ID [7:43:30] ID [7:49:20] Nephews of Phela - Mulah 2 [7:57:04] ID

[8:02:05] Rennie Foster - Devils Waters
[8:05:42] ID
[8:11:12] Radiohead - Everything In Its Right Place (Andy Müller Remix) 
[8:19:55] Christian Smith  John Selway - Total Departure [8:26:55] ID 
[8:30:59] On The House With Marshall Jefferson - Ride The Rhythm [8:33:13] 
Ralphi Rosario feat Xavier Gold - You Used To Hold Me (Kenny's Mix) [8:38:35] 
Layo  Bushwacka - Love Story [8:45:02] ID [8:49:35] ID [8:54:18] Stooges - I 
Wanna Be Your Dog [8:58:05] The KLF - What Time Is Love [9:03:44] ID [9:07:30] 
ID (Same as 4:51:49)




-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 8:25
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) Blow Your House Down

Awww yeah :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WMCJFbQBHk



 
Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit 
voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. 

RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Taylor
Eh?
I chipped in cos it looks like LG has gone the way of Darren Emerson - such a 
shame!
I consider that worthy of comment 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:29
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

U don't have to listen to it, just click and delete the mail...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 12:27
Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

That looks like a dreadful 9 hours! 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 07:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Found this link to a great, very long set by Laurent Garnier (still one of my 
favourite dj's and has some 313 in his blood ) done on NYE in London (well Layo 
and Bushwacka are not really 313 but they played a few tracks as well:-)

Thought some of u out there might like it, check his tracklist..some crazy 
tunez are played. If u are not into, sorry to waste ur bandwith, just click and 
delete.

http://deepgoa.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/laurent-garnier-layo-bushwacka-end-london-31-12-2008/


[0:00:00] Vincenzo - The Resident
[0:01:38] Wagon Cookin - Mallorca (Sasse Remix) [0:06:58] Spirit Catcher - 
Loving System [0:12:07] ID [0:16:48] Lee Jones - Safari (Stimming Remix) 
[0:22:18] Tiger Stripes - Hooked (Solomun Remix) [0:2x:xx] ID [0:28:58] Dirt 
Crew - Soundwave [0:34:50] ID [0:39:42] Matthias Meyer - Tout Va Bien (liebe 
detail) [0:45:31] ID [0:50:25] ID [0:55:35] ID [0:59:29] Freestyle Orchestra - 
Don't tell me

[1:05:16] Ce Ce Roger - Someday
[1:10:34] ID
[1:19:25] Tigerskin - Peter's Secret Weapon [1:24:14] ID [1:30:41] Omar S - 
Psychotic photosynthesis [1:36:44] Nikola Gala - Kilo Tango [1:44:08] Omar feat 
Stevie Wonder - Feeling You (Henrik Schwarz mix) [1:50:32] Inner City - Good 
Life (Carl Craig Remix) [1:55:xx] Sven Tasnadi - Waiting For A Sign

(Countdown to 2009)

[1:58:15] Marvin Gaye - I Heard it Through the Grapevine ( ? Remix) [2:04:30] 
Henrik Schwarz  Amampando - I Exist Because of You (Dixons's Stripped Down 
Version) [2:10:49] Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix) 
[2:16:46] ID [2:22:13] ID [2:27:06] ID [2:30:42] ID [2:36:10] ID [2:41:40] Kink 
 Neville Watson - Blueprint [2:46:45] Audio Soul Project - Reality Check 
(Vincenzo Remix) [2:51:07] ID [2:56:22] Rocco  Claude Monnet - 90's (SSOH)

[3:01:52] ID
[3:07:35] Patrice Bäumel - Javelin
[3:12:19] Paolo Driver - Ok samba
[3:18:40] Dj Simi - Errore di sistema
[3:23:00] Tiefschwarz - Liquid cherries
[3:30:46] ID
[3:35:31] ID
[3:41:02] Pitto - Sexvibe
[3:46:37] Bohannon - Let's start to dance again [3:51:22] ID [3:55:32] ID 
[3:58:03] ID

[4:00:41] Stanton Warriors ft. Big Daddy Kane - Get Wild Off This (Bassbin 
Twins Remix) [4:04:05] ID [4:09:07] Varoslav feat. dOP - Inside Ways (Boris 
Werner Remix) [4:15:45] ID [4:20:22] Ilario Alicante - Living near Africa 
[4:25:22] ID [4:29:16] Ben Westbeech - Hang Around (Wahoo Dub) (Brownswood) 
[4:32:34] Mumbassa - Wipe The Needle OR Wudwerd - Bocas Del Toras (Alex Santos 
Remix) [4:37:42] Laurent Garnier - Back To My Roots [4:46:45] Layo  Bushwacka 
- Now Is The Time [4:51:49] ID (Laurent Garniers Demo track)

[5:05:30] Dubfire  Oliver Huntemann - Dios [5:10:22] ID [5:15:44] 
Lutzenkirchen - All That Jazz (Popof Remix 01) [5:19:44] Dubfire - Emissions 
[5:25:05] ID [5:28:29] ID [5:35:14] Mathias Kaden - Perclue [5:41:02] The Aztec 
Mystic - Jaguar [5:45:18] Slam - Azure (Samuel L Session Remix) [5:49:57] 
Laurent Garnier - The Man With The Red Face (Live?) [5:58:58] High Contrast - 
Sleepless

[6:02:37] ID
[6:07:48] DJ Krust - Malice (Full Cycle) [6:10:10] Nancy Sinatra - These Boots 
Are Made For Walkin'(remix?) [6:13:18] Sandy - Notice Me (remix?/some 
bootleg?/dub?) [6:19:04] Luke Solomon - Spirits (Prins Thomas disko tek miks) 
[6:25:55] Timo Maas - Subtellite [6:32:00] Paul Ritch - Walk the line [6:38:12] 
Jesper Dahlback - I Love Water [6:43:18] ID [6:48:53] ID [6:53:20] Julian 
Jeweil - Saint Mitre (Danton Eeprom Rmx) (Skryptom) [6:58:20] Blunt - Golden 
Shoot (Djinxx Vision)

[7:03:40] Ramon Tapia - Tanzgefuehl
[7:07:47] ID
[7:12:55] ID
[7:16:08] ID
[7:21:30] Ricardo Vilalobos - Enfants
[7:26:22] Par Grindvik - Do us Part (Len Faki Remix) [7:29:22] ID [7:33:20] ID 
[7:37:50] ID [7:43:30] ID [7:49:20] Nephews of Phela - Mulah 2 [7:57:04] ID

[8:02:05] Rennie Foster - Devils Waters
[8:05:42] ID
[8:11:12] Radiohead - Everything In Its Right Place (Andy Müller Remix) 
[8:19:55] Christian Smith  John Selway - Total Departure

RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Taylor
Ahem.I can think of a few things ;) 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:50
To: Robert Taylor; Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

I've always wondered how a DJ manages to stay alert throught these marathon 
sessions, especially Danny Tenaglia and his 24-hour sessions in New York.

Any ideas?


-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:27 AM
To: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!


That looks like a dreadful 9 hours! 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 07:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Found this link to a great, very long set by Laurent Garnier (still one of my 
favourite dj's and has some 313 in his blood ) done on NYE in London (well Layo 
and Bushwacka are not really 313 but they played a few tracks as well:-)

Thought some of u out there might like it, check his tracklist..some crazy 
tunez are played. If u are not into, sorry to waste ur bandwith, just click and 
delete.

http://deepgoa.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/laurent-garnier-layo-bushwacka-end-london-31-12-2008/


[0:00:00] Vincenzo - The Resident
[0:01:38] Wagon Cookin - Mallorca (Sasse Remix) [0:06:58] Spirit Catcher - 
Loving System [0:12:07] ID [0:16:48] Lee Jones - Safari (Stimming Remix) 
[0:22:18] Tiger Stripes - Hooked (Solomun Remix) [0:2x:xx] ID [0:28:58] Dirt 
Crew - Soundwave [0:34:50] ID [0:39:42] Matthias Meyer - Tout Va Bien (liebe 
detail) [0:45:31] ID [0:50:25] ID [0:55:35] ID [0:59:29] Freestyle Orchestra - 
Don't tell me

[1:05:16] Ce Ce Roger - Someday
[1:10:34] ID
[1:19:25] Tigerskin - Peter's Secret Weapon [1:24:14] ID [1:30:41] Omar S - 
Psychotic photosynthesis [1:36:44] Nikola Gala - Kilo Tango [1:44:08] Omar feat 
Stevie Wonder - Feeling You (Henrik Schwarz mix) [1:50:32] Inner City - Good 
Life (Carl Craig Remix) [1:55:xx] Sven Tasnadi - Waiting For A Sign

(Countdown to 2009)

[1:58:15] Marvin Gaye - I Heard it Through the Grapevine ( ? Remix) [2:04:30] 
Henrik Schwarz  Amampando - I Exist Because of You (Dixons's Stripped Down 
Version) [2:10:49] Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix) 
[2:16:46] ID [2:22:13] ID [2:27:06] ID [2:30:42] ID [2:36:10] ID [2:41:40] Kink 
 Neville Watson - Blueprint [2:46:45] Audio Soul Project - Reality Check 
(Vincenzo Remix) [2:51:07] ID [2:56:22] Rocco  Claude Monnet - 90's (SSOH)

[3:01:52] ID
[3:07:35] Patrice Bäumel - Javelin
[3:12:19] Paolo Driver - Ok samba
[3:18:40] Dj Simi - Errore di sistema
[3:23:00] Tiefschwarz - Liquid cherries
[3:30:46] ID
[3:35:31] ID
[3:41:02] Pitto - Sexvibe
[3:46:37] Bohannon - Let's start to dance again [3:51:22] ID [3:55:32] ID 
[3:58:03] ID

[4:00:41] Stanton Warriors ft. Big Daddy Kane - Get Wild Off This (Bassbin 
Twins Remix) [4:04:05] ID [4:09:07] Varoslav feat. dOP - Inside Ways (Boris 
Werner Remix) [4:15:45] ID [4:20:22] Ilario Alicante - Living near Africa 
[4:25:22] ID [4:29:16] Ben Westbeech - Hang Around (Wahoo Dub) (Brownswood) 
[4:32:34] Mumbassa - Wipe The Needle OR Wudwerd - Bocas Del Toras (Alex Santos 
Remix) [4:37:42] Laurent Garnier - Back To My Roots [4:46:45] Layo  Bushwacka 
- Now Is The Time [4:51:49] ID (Laurent Garniers Demo track)

[5:05:30] Dubfire  Oliver Huntemann - Dios [5:10:22] ID [5:15:44] 
Lutzenkirchen - All That Jazz (Popof Remix 01) [5:19:44] Dubfire - Emissions 
[5:25:05] ID [5:28:29] ID [5:35:14] Mathias Kaden - Perclue [5:41:02] The Aztec 
Mystic - Jaguar [5:45:18] Slam - Azure (Samuel L Session Remix) [5:49:57] 
Laurent Garnier - The Man With The Red Face (Live?) [5:58:58] High Contrast - 
Sleepless

[6:02:37] ID
[6:07:48] DJ Krust - Malice (Full Cycle) [6:10:10] Nancy Sinatra - These Boots 
Are Made For Walkin'(remix?) [6:13:18] Sandy - Notice Me (remix?/some 
bootleg?/dub?) [6:19:04] Luke Solomon - Spirits (Prins Thomas disko tek miks) 
[6:25:55] Timo Maas - Subtellite [6:32:00] Paul Ritch - Walk the line [6:38:12] 
Jesper Dahlback - I Love Water [6:43:18] ID [6:48:53] ID [6:53:20] Julian 
Jeweil - Saint Mitre (Danton Eeprom Rmx) (Skryptom) [6:58:20] Blunt - Golden 
Shoot (Djinxx Vision)

[7:03:40] Ramon Tapia - Tanzgefuehl
[7:07:47] ID
[7:12:55] ID
[7:16:08] ID
[7:21:30] Ricardo Vilalobos - Enfants
[7:26:22] Par Grindvik - Do us Part (Len Faki Remix) [7:29:22] ID [7:33:20] ID 
[7:37:50] ID [7:43:30] ID [7:49:20] Nephews of Phela - Mulah 2 [7:57:04] ID

[8:02:05] Rennie Foster - Devils Waters
[8:05:42] ID
[8:11:12] Radiohead - Everything In Its Right Place (Andy Müller Remix) 
[8:19:55] Christian Smith  John Selway

RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Taylor
But he used to do that and play good records and there don't seem to be very 
many good records there unfortunately 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:50
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Okay, sorry i understood ur mail wrong, sorry about that!

 Dunno what Darren Emerson does these days, don't really care about him 
either:-)

Well Garnier has been playing a wide range of tracks from different styles and 
I like that, not sticking to one style or another and always brought with great 
enthusiasm by a guy who knows his music.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 12:46
Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Eh?
I chipped in cos it looks like LG has gone the way of Darren Emerson - such a 
shame!
I consider that worthy of comment 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:29
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

U don't have to listen to it, just click and delete the mail...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 12:27
Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

That looks like a dreadful 9 hours! 


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 07:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Found this link to a great, very long set by Laurent Garnier (still one of my 
favourite dj's and has some 313 in his blood ) done on NYE in London (well Layo 
and Bushwacka are not really 313 but they played a few tracks as well:-)

Thought some of u out there might like it, check his tracklist..some crazy 
tunez are played. If u are not into, sorry to waste ur bandwith, just click and 
delete.

http://deepgoa.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/laurent-garnier-layo-bushwacka-end-london-31-12-2008/


[0:00:00] Vincenzo - The Resident
[0:01:38] Wagon Cookin - Mallorca (Sasse Remix) [0:06:58] Spirit Catcher - 
Loving System [0:12:07] ID [0:16:48] Lee Jones - Safari (Stimming Remix) 
[0:22:18] Tiger Stripes - Hooked (Solomun Remix) [0:2x:xx] ID [0:28:58] Dirt 
Crew - Soundwave [0:34:50] ID [0:39:42] Matthias Meyer - Tout Va Bien (liebe 
detail) [0:45:31] ID [0:50:25] ID [0:55:35] ID [0:59:29] Freestyle Orchestra - 
Don't tell me

[1:05:16] Ce Ce Roger - Someday
[1:10:34] ID
[1:19:25] Tigerskin - Peter's Secret Weapon [1:24:14] ID [1:30:41] Omar S - 
Psychotic photosynthesis [1:36:44] Nikola Gala - Kilo Tango [1:44:08] Omar feat 
Stevie Wonder - Feeling You (Henrik Schwarz mix) [1:50:32] Inner City - Good 
Life (Carl Craig Remix) [1:55:xx] Sven Tasnadi - Waiting For A Sign

(Countdown to 2009)

[1:58:15] Marvin Gaye - I Heard it Through the Grapevine ( ? Remix) [2:04:30] 
Henrik Schwarz  Amampando - I Exist Because of You (Dixons's Stripped Down 
Version) [2:10:49] Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix) 
[2:16:46] ID [2:22:13] ID [2:27:06] ID [2:30:42] ID [2:36:10] ID [2:41:40] Kink 
 Neville Watson - Blueprint [2:46:45] Audio Soul Project - Reality Check 
(Vincenzo Remix) [2:51:07] ID [2:56:22] Rocco  Claude Monnet - 90's (SSOH)

[3:01:52] ID
[3:07:35] Patrice Bäumel - Javelin
[3:12:19] Paolo Driver - Ok samba
[3:18:40] Dj Simi - Errore di sistema
[3:23:00] Tiefschwarz - Liquid cherries
[3:30:46] ID
[3:35:31] ID
[3:41:02] Pitto - Sexvibe
[3:46:37] Bohannon - Let's start to dance again [3:51:22] ID [3:55:32] ID 
[3:58:03] ID

[4:00:41] Stanton Warriors ft. Big Daddy Kane - Get Wild Off This (Bassbin 
Twins Remix) [4:04:05] ID [4:09:07] Varoslav feat. dOP - Inside Ways (Boris 
Werner Remix) [4:15:45] ID [4:20:22] Ilario Alicante - Living near Africa 
[4:25:22] ID [4:29:16] Ben Westbeech - Hang Around (Wahoo Dub) (Brownswood) 
[4:32:34] Mumbassa - Wipe The Needle OR Wudwerd - Bocas Del Toras (Alex Santos 
Remix) [4:37:42] Laurent Garnier - Back To My Roots [4:46:45] Layo  Bushwacka 
- Now Is The Time [4:51:49] ID (Laurent Garniers Demo track)

[5:05:30] Dubfire  Oliver Huntemann - Dios [5:10:22] ID [5:15:44] 
Lutzenkirchen - All That Jazz (Popof Remix 01) [5:19:44] Dubfire - Emissions 
[5:25:05] ID [5:28:29] ID [5:35:14] Mathias Kaden - Perclue [5:41:02] The Aztec 
Mystic - Jaguar [5:45:18] Slam - Azure (Samuel L Session Remix) [5:49:57] 
Laurent Garnier - The Man

RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Taylor
I'd take quite a few out of that list myself - Tiefschwarz? 
Not so many tunes out of a 9 hour set really is it?
And no one should ever play Jaguar ever again :p 


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-Original Message-
From: gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk [mailto:gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 12:04
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!





When I scanned through the tracklist, these names looked credible to me :

Omar S - Psychotic photosynthesis
Omar feat Stevie Wonder - Feeling You (Henrik Schwarz mix) Inner City - Good 
Life (Carl Craig Remix) Marvin Gaye - I Heard it Through the Grapevine ( ? 
Remix) Henrik Schwarz  Amampando - I Exist Because of You (Dixons's Stripped 
Down
Version)
Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix) Tiefschwarz - Liquid 
cherries Bohannon - Let's start to dance again The Aztec Mystic - Jaguar Slam - 
Azure (Samuel L Session Remix) Laurent Garnier - The Man With The Red Face 
(Live?) Luke Solomon - Spirits Radiohead - Everything In Its Right Place On The 
House With Marshall Jefferson - Ride The Rhythm Ralphi Rosario feat Xavier Gold 
- You Used To Hold Me (Kenny's Mix) Layo  Bushwacka - Love Story Stooges - I 
Wanna Be Your Dog The KLF - What Time Is Love

I think 'dreadful' might be a bit harsh, although to be fair there's a lot of 
track names  artists there that I don't know.

Kind regards,
Gary
   Entertainment UK Ltd
Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS
 x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946



   
  Robert Taylor   
   
  rdtay...@channelTo:   Martijn de Blaauw 
martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl, 313@hyperreal.org   
  4.co.uk cc:  
   
   Subject:  RE: (313) Laurent 
Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!
  13/01/09 11:56
   

   

   




But he used to do that and play good records and there don't seem to be very 
many good records there unfortunately


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:50
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Okay, sorry i understood ur mail wrong, sorry about that!

 Dunno what Darren Emerson does these days, don't really care about him
either:-)

Well Garnier has been playing a wide range of tracks from different styles and 
I like that, not sticking to one style or another and always brought with great 
enthusiasm by a guy who knows his music.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 12:46
Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Eh?
I chipped in cos it looks like LG has gone the way of Darren Emerson - such a 
shame!
I consider that worthy of comment


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:29
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

U don't have to listen to it, just click and delete the mail...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 12:27
Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

That looks like a dreadful 9 hours!


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-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl]
Sent: 13 January 2009 07:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier @ The End London, 31/12/22008 9 hrs!

Found this link to a great, very long set by Laurent Garnier (still one of my 
favourite dj's and has some 313 in his blood ) done on NYE in London (well Layo 
and Bushwacka are not really

RE: (313) wonky techno mixes?

2009-01-12 Thread Robert Taylor
This is the forum you want: 
http://www.no-future.com/erutufon/index.php
Mixes are usually posted in the members events and releases section

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-Original Message-
From: michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com
[mailto:michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com] 
Sent: 09 January 2009 17:53
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) wonky techno mixes?


anyone have links or could post some wonky techno mixes?  Looking for
mixes by Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt, Si Begg, etc. BEFORE they all
got nabbed by dubstep or m_nml

thanks

MEK

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RE: (313) warehouse-trax

2009-01-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Who's Carl? 


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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 12 January 2009 15:50
To: David Powers; Martin Dust; Three-One-Three list
Subject: RE: (313) warehouse-trax

Nor me.
Maybe you can read a bit more about it on the ableton forum though 

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=104202sid=af3efaae523464fbb101
a754d235

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From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:25 PM
To: Martin Dust; Three-One-Three list
Subject: Re: (313) warehouse-trax


The idea sounds awesome but I couldn't get the link to work!

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com
wrote:
 Carl sent me this, thought I'd share it with 313:

 www.warehouse-trax.com

 im gonna put two new trax on there at the beginning of every month in 
 2009. The basic concept is:

 100% Live MPC Jams
 No Edits
 Jackin Grooves Old School Style

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RE: (313) warehouse-trax

2009-01-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Carl Taylor? 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 12 January 2009 15:58
To: Robert Taylor; Three-One-Three list
Subject: Re: (313) warehouse-trax


On 12 Jan 2009, at 15:55, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Who's Carl?


He's done an EP and Remixes for us and Larry Gardener and released also
on Advance and Bugged Out - talented lad and great DJ. Lives in
Doncaster tho :)

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RE: (313) warehouse-trax

2009-01-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Yes, a little - there's not much info on that site! :) 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 12 January 2009 16:11
To: Robert Taylor
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Subject: Re: (313) warehouse-trax


On 12 Jan 2009, at 16:09, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Carl Taylor?

Yeah, sorry Rob, it would have helped wouldn't it :)

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RE: (313) 313 geek quiz

2009-01-08 Thread Robert Taylor
That's too easy! 


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-Original Message-
From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] 
Sent: 08 January 2009 11:44
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) 313 geek quiz


this is the one i meant
:-)

http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=256561

David Beattie schreef:
 Hi Marcel,

 I did a quick search through my email history and found 2 quiz URL's 
 from 313 but neither of them worked one looked incomplete to start 
 with and the other was from 05

 Cheers
 BT


 --- On Wed, 7/1/09, mar...@nomorewords.net mar...@nomorewords.net
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 From: mar...@nomorewords.net mar...@nomorewords.net
 Subject: (313) 313 geek quiz
 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 11:23 AM i remeber there was some 
 kinda quiz on the net anyone remembers/know the url/address?

 thx!
 

   
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RE: (313) re: 313 geek quiz

2009-01-08 Thread Robert Taylor
I thought most of them had a little 'help' from others? 


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-Original Message-
From: jdmo...@frontiernet.net [mailto:jdmo...@frontiernet.net] 
Sent: 08 January 2009 12:56
To: 313
Subject: (313) re: 313 geek quiz

pshaw. as if someone who's been on this list 14 years wouldnt have known
sueno latino was the disputed track...








On 08January2009, at 06:31 , Odeluga, Ken wrote:

Face saver!

;-)


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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:48 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) re: 313 geek quiz


ok...i realize this completely could be construed as an attempt to save
face, but yes. it was a trick question.









From: jdmo...@frontiernet.net
Date: 7 January 2009 13:30:27 GMT
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: re: 313 geek quiz


im sure collectively we could come up with a much, much better one.
here, ill start...


who wrote strings of life?

a. derrick may
b. thomas barnett
c. derrick may  thomas barnett
d. thomas barnett  derrick may
e. depends who you ask


; )


You do know you the correct answer isn't actually amongst your multiple
choices?

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RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands? 


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From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:39
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be
Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts
performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true
Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.


On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:


 On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:

 One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple

 - still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle

 I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the 
 Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho 
 Rob, I guess it's a rule of rockism's.

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One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple -
still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle 


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From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] 
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Subject: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

Check: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/148270

No  more Ralf  Florian


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And sell more records 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
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Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

 So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only for 
 their unique analog modular design.

Haha it's a good point but I still like the idea as it seems to
challenge most people, that I like.
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I wasn't referring to the Village People :p 


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Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:44, Robert Taylor wrote:

 And sell more records

and you have a time machine to go back to the late 80s perhaps :)

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S Club Juniors 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 15:47
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Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 15:40, michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com wrote:

 much like Mark Mothersbaugh starting DEVO 2.0 which was an all kids 
 version of DEVO

 it was actually pretty subversive thing for him to do - and Disney 
 bought it

 MEK

Mark and Bob 2 do a lot of work for Disney anyway, they just took the
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RE: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night

2008-12-16 Thread Robert Taylor
It obviously wasn't gay enough! 


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From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] 
Sent: 15 December 2008 21:49
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Fw: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday
night

Ah, but I do have that!  And it wasn't any help.

fh

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Subject: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:59:03 -

IIRC you have a moustache - you'll have got in alright! 


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IIRC you have a moustache - you'll have got in alright! 


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From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] 
Sent: 12 December 2008 09:11
To: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night

Second-hand [but well informed] advice:

Dress as if you aim to make a small impression *and* sweat and have fun
- although of course you'll need a coat whilst you're waiting to get in!

Smile.

Don't appear to be freaked by the freaks! :) As you know, this is
perhaps the quintessential metropolis, and to a large extent people are
free to be what they want, especially at night, and it being Berlin,
more than the average number of people in a normal Western city, seem to
take up that offer!

Be sober. 

Please let us know how it goes, including the gig. :)

Ken

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From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:17 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night


www.octaveone.com

13 December 2008: 
Klubnacht @ Berghain
Berlin, Germany

Anyone up for this ?  I'm coming back to Berlin from the UN climate 
conference in Poland early evening on Saturday.  Don't have a hotel 
yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday.  

I have heard, um, stories about access to Berghain.  Since I am just
some random old guy as far as doorpeople are concerned, advice about how
to get in (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to
play) would be helpful.

To see Rob Hood and Doc Martin at Fabric (Fabric!! not exactly your
hypo-exclusive club) this past June, I had to pull off every social
engineering trick I know but I did finally get in.  I'm not sure I'll
have that kind of patience this time.  But I would love to see Octave
One (longtime friends and, to be sure, one of the great techno live
groups) especially in Berlin.

cheers

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RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I understand people being annoyed by voiceovers/intros on mixes - Carl
Craid did the same thing on Kings Of Techno for BBE and kinda ruined it
as a repeatable listening experience. 


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From: \ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2008 15:15
To: Arturo Lopez
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala
missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one
cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology forward.

ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding me?


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wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why 
 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last 
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass 
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_w
 est/281x211.jpg 
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_tou
 r.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before, 
 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that 
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / egregious

 sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a few years 
 back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old techno bins 
 for hooks.

 -Arturo


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its actually auto tune, what people use to make bad singers in 
 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a 
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 his beats are tight, he's slightly annoying but immensely talented


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RE: (313) Kanye's New LP

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Taylor
I've only heard one Kanye West song I liked. 
F*** that word 'hating'.
It seems to be unacceptable to say you don't like something. 
Ridiculous. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2008 16:09
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kanye's New LP

tHE man has one miss and you guys are hating? How many misses does your
favorite techno artist have? A couple im sure. And most of the time what
misses for you hits for other people.
The man deserves one frankly, i figuered him to be due for a bad record.
Simply because it's never happend till now, in my book.
The metro Area Fabric is dope. Alot of the same records they played when
i saw them in Pittsburgh many years ago but still tremendous!
Luego
A




On Tue, December 2, 2008 10:14 pm, \\ wrote:
 fyi, just a few years back, juan atkins played a cutup of cybotron ala

 missyand jeff mills, eg, samples a paid in full on shifty disco...
 examples of the interchange between between hip hop and techno

 although, at the moment, i wouldnt spend a buck on kanye's album, one 
 cannot deny that hiphop producers certainly do push technology 
 forward.

 ps, to all the naysayers of metro area's fabric cd...are you kidding
me?


 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Arturo Lopez 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I certainly think he's a talented lyricist at least, maybe that's why

 I expect more.  I actually -really- dug the aesthetics of the last 
 tour, I thought it looked quite badass 
 http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/news/g/grammys_2008/show/kanye_
 west/281x211.jpg 
 http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2008_02_kanye_to
 ur.gif

 Yea it's a little derivative of stuff we've probably all seen before,

 but it still looks cool as hell imho. If anyone knows who put that 
 together, I'd love to see some of their other work.

 I can do without all the covers though, I hate cover songs / 
 egregious sampling quite a bit.  Remember Missie and Cybotron from a 
 few years back?  I can do without the hip-hoppers raiding the old 
 techno bins for hooks.

 -Arturo


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 keyhe uses it despite its originally intended use, which is a 
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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Never been impressed with any of them 


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From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
To: kent williams; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.

The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to
label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke, he was rubbish, absolute rubbish!
Track Selection, Mixing was terrible. When labelled as a UR Assault DJ a
certain standard is expected. Any of the other UR DJ have always put on
a great show!

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Sent: 25 November 2008 14:40
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

The UR DJs do not get booked enough in the US.  I know that there are
more than a few people who haven't really been feeling the UR output for
the past few years.  I'm not one of them, but I can see how some people
might not be getting it.  But every time I've seen a UR DJ,
I've been completely demolished.   Buzz Goree is the guy I've seen
most, and every time I've been schooled, and had a great time besides.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SANTIAGO SALAZAR: UndergroundResistance|Los Hermanos [ Detroit|LA ] 
 FOREST GREEN: CuteFang|FnF|Faktion|SisterSF|DEF [ SF ]
 OROTORO: FnF|Faktion [ SF ] vs DISCONNECT: DEF|Faktion [ SF ] live 
 webcast via Radio Integrated!

 FOREST GREEN: Standard bearer for techno in San Francisco through even
its
 most silent days, Forest remains one of the busiest DJs in this city
by the
 bay, yet always manages to make each set a fresh and unique
experience.
 Recently returning to focus on production, she's still known for her
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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all disappointed
in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because they seem to fall
prey to the notion that when in Europe one must either bang it out or
play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I guess they can't win cos
there are plenty of people who do want to hear that sort of thing. Not
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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 14:55
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Williams, Graham; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

If this is the case, I want to know why. Who have you seen, how did they
disappoint you?

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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
I'd love to hear one of them playing a filthy electro set in the vein of
Rolando's Vibrations mix CD
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Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but I've
always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those places
they definitely have something different to prove.

Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

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 disappointed in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because 
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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
He's not in the UR Assault Squad is he?
Mills can still surprise for sure.  
Not heard him in a while though


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Sent: 26 November 2008 14:43
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

Mills included?


 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 13:07
 
 Never been impressed with any of them
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
 
 But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.
 
 The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to 
 label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke

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RE: (313) New things.

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Taylor
That link doesn't work! 


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-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 October 2008 13:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: RE: (313) New things.

Great album. Im really feeling this sort of stuff.

If you the the tracks you mention below you'll like this mix from one of
the Hessle Audio guys here.

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index1191Itemid=28

Rav

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 September 2008 19:58
To: '313'
Subject: RE: (313) New things.


The 2562 album 'Aerial' is fairly insane. One of the better techno
things
I've heard in a while, and I'm told it's dubstep. Following a thread
about
newer dubstep stuff on Disception recently I picked these up too:

TRG/Dub U - Losing Marbles [Hotflush Recordings] 
Pangea - Deviant [Hessle Audio UK] 
TRG - Feel For You [Subway Holland] 
TRG - Missed Calls [Subway Holland] 
Kontext - Plumes [Immerse]

Other new [313]-related stuff:

Kenny Larkin - Keys Strings Tambourines [Planet E US] - I like it, but I
think Glob is the only really essential track on it. I'm one of the few
who
likes a fair amount of his recent stuff, so much so that I think the
Narcissist is better than this. 

I got three EPs from Kadebostan. All are excellent. Check them out. I
suspect he's French, so not sure why I'm mentioning them as though
they're
[313] related, but it's good stuff. I suppose Freude Am Tamzen is a
[313]
tangent. 

I finally caught up with all the Terence Dixon stuff on Yore, End to enD
and
Nice  Nasty. There's tracks on all of these that are worth grabbing.
Proper
techno. 

The Dedicated JB track from Stereocity on Deep Explorer.

Inverse Cinematics - The Rise  Fall (Sam Irl remix) [Pulver Germany]

All the Workshop stuff that I hadn't already picked up.

The Mole's I've Got My A1 and When It Tastes So Good, You Deserve It

Roland Appel's Lost Valley and New Love

Mujaba's Fuelta

Three of the tracks on the latest Secondo album on Soul Jazz

The Asphalt - 8 Mile Road (Juju  Jordash mix) [Deep Explorer]

All of the CIMA stuff. Massive Wayne Gardiner catch-up business. That
and
the Wayne Gardiner's Classic Man Nervous Tracks.

Buying stuff digitally is good! I got some other stuff too that ain't
very
[313]-relevant which I'll probably review on my blog before too long. 

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RE: (313) 313 compatible email services

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Ta - will download later


BTW - I want to subscribe to this list from a non-work email address as
it's a pain to keep forwarding links
I have a Google account but apparently (why?), this is not acceptable.
Who else can I use?
 


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-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 October 2008 13:54
To: Robert Taylor; 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) New things.

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=
1191Itemid=28



On 2 Oct 2008, at 13:51, Robert Taylor wrote:

 That link doesn't work!


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 -Original Message-
 From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 October 2008 13:40
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
 Subject: RE: (313) New things.

 Great album. Im really feeling this sort of stuff.

 If you the the tracks you mention below you'll like this mix from one 
 of the Hessle Audio guys here.

 http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index1191Itemid=28

 Rav

 -Original Message-
 From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 September 2008 19:58
 To: '313'
 Subject: RE: (313) New things.


 The 2562 album 'Aerial' is fairly insane. One of the better techno 
 things I've heard in a while, and I'm told it's dubstep. Following a 
 thread about newer dubstep stuff on Disception recently I picked these

 up too:

 TRG/Dub U - Losing Marbles [Hotflush Recordings] Pangea - Deviant 
 [Hessle Audio UK] TRG - Feel For You [Subway Holland] TRG - Missed 
 Calls [Subway Holland] Kontext - Plumes [Immerse]

 Other new [313]-related stuff:

 Kenny Larkin - Keys Strings Tambourines [Planet E US] - I like it, but

 I think Glob is the only really essential track on it. I'm one of the 
 few who likes a fair amount of his recent stuff, so much so that I 
 think the Narcissist is better than this.

 I got three EPs from Kadebostan. All are excellent. Check them out. I 
 suspect he's French, so not sure why I'm mentioning them as though 
 they're [313] related, but it's good stuff. I suppose Freude Am Tamzen

 is a [313] tangent.

 I finally caught up with all the Terence Dixon stuff on Yore, End to 
 enD and Nice  Nasty. There's tracks on all of these that are worth 
 grabbing.
 Proper
 techno.

 The Dedicated JB track from Stereocity on Deep Explorer.

 Inverse Cinematics - The Rise  Fall (Sam Irl remix) [Pulver Germany]

 All the Workshop stuff that I hadn't already picked up.

 The Mole's I've Got My A1 and When It Tastes So Good, You Deserve It

 Roland Appel's Lost Valley and New Love

 Mujaba's Fuelta

 Three of the tracks on the latest Secondo album on Soul Jazz

 The Asphalt - 8 Mile Road (Juju  Jordash mix) [Deep Explorer]

 All of the CIMA stuff. Massive Wayne Gardiner catch-up business. That 
 and the Wayne Gardiner's Classic Man Nervous Tracks.

 Buying stuff digitally is good! I got some other stuff too that ain't 
 very [313]-relevant which I'll probably review on my blog before too 
 long.

 Tristan
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RE: (313) brian eno david byrne

2008-09-29 Thread Robert Taylor
No - they do have a new album out!
 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 September 2008 12:35
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) brian eno  david byrne

Saw this thread a little while back and thought OOOH!!! must check.
Maybe it got said already but when I actually came to do so I find it's
not a new album but a rerelease of a 1973 LP - their first work
together.  Not that into the clips I heard.

 -Original Message-
 From: john saylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 September 2008 16:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313
 Subject: Re: (313) brian eno  david byrne
 
 hey
 
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  is this really a new album from these two?
  http://www.earplug.cc/172945
 
 yeah- it's nice. i've heard it a few times and hasn't blown my mind, 
 but it was ok.
 
 i thought _my_life_in_the_bush_of_ghosts_ was better.
 
 btw- _bust_of_ghosts_ was eno/byrne and _everything_that_happens is
byrne/eno.
 
 so i guess i like eno on top better  :-P
 
 --
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RE: (313) Morgan Geist interview

2008-09-29 Thread Robert Taylor
I wonder if people regard me as a music thief - I don't buy much music
these days as I tend to download DJ mixes that (mostly) friends put up.
I stopped buying vinyl years ago as I had to give it up like an
alcoholic has to give up booze. I go to parties and regard that as my
economic contribution to 'the scene', rightly or wrongly. 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 September 2008 14:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview

Ah, see, my point has nothing to do with morals nor ethics.  In my
understanding the OP works for a music shop, rubadub if i'm not
mistaken, a shop that most likely relies on repeat business by paying
customers of music media, not just music gear.  Sure, there are going to
be people who use it legitimately, but if the OP's point was that most
people just steal music, it's ironic at least and really bad business at
worst that they're enabling their own lack of repeat business.  Dig?
After all, even the legitimate users of mp3s are not going to do (much)
repeat media business at the shop.  They're going to go to
traxsource.com or junodownload.com or beatport.com, or any of the many
other legitimate online music stores.  As far as I can tell rubadub does
not yet have an online music shop.  So, while I didn't really mean to
judge rubadub's decision to sell serato (notice my original post made no
judgement other than that it's interesting) you have to admit that it
does say something.  I'd love to hear what else Jason or anybody in the
rubadub crew has to say about their business model in this regard.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why should it?  One might advocate taking the choice of whether to 
 break the law out of the hands of the individual with technology when 
 it came to say, gun control.  But in this case when there's a 
 perfectly legit way to use such gear why should a shop then have to 
 stop selling it because some people (even if the majority) are not
using it in a legal and possibly not moral way.  They're the ones
ripping people off - if that's what they're doing (which doesn't mean to
say I don't think they are, I'm just trying not to be involved in that
argument while this other bit seems clear cut to me).


 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 September 2008 12:29

 interestingly this hasn't stopped you from selling serato.

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A very quick interjection from me!
 
  We're a record retailer but we also sell DJ and Studio equipment- 
  we currently sell around 10 Serato systems a week and the number 
  has been growing steadily over the last 2 years.  Almost without 
  fail the customer will tell us with a big grin on their faces that 
  Serato is great because I don;t need to pay for music anyomore- I 
  just download it for free.  It's so short sighted it almost 
  beggars belief- the majority of these people are actually taking 
  pride in getting something for nothing.





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RE: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview)

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Taylor
Delete it then 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 September 2008 12:40
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)

I disagree.  I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws and
regulations.  The original post was about a specific detroit related
thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have to read a
new email that has nothing to do with the op every time somebody
replies.  A subject change would easily fix this, and it's just good
netiquette.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in 
 itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
 Mike interview)


 people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines 
 accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded 
 radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not 
 a

 performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able 
 to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the 
 downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and 
 UR

 aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for downlaod

 the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not 
 the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by the

 state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during any

 given day.

  essentially it's the listener who needs to  This proves once again 
 how NZ takes America's most trumped-up
 regulations and makes them worse.

 I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's 
 classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of digital 
 munitions, otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, my life as a

 Kiwi arms courier.

 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html

 fh


 -- mail forwarded, original message follows --

 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
 Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)

 They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and 
 they

 do close people down for it.

 This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local 
 organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing 
 their

 fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers 
 podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist 
 purely of talk.

 So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out 
 it

 was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand who

 control broadcast licenses here):

 PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence 
 podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make 
 available music on demand is required to seek the permission of the

 individual copyright owners concerned.

 So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from 
 here!Madness...










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RE: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview)

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Taylor
I delete each mail individually too and it's no bother - anyway, who's
to say when the sunject has changed enough to retitle? What if it
changes back to the subject? Best to not mess with it. 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 September 2008 13:04
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)

The way gmail formats threads, though, one has to go through and delete
each message individually.  If people would follow *a simple and
long-standing rule of netiquette* things would work more smoothly for
everyone.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Delete it then


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 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 September 2008 12:40
 To: Odeluga, Ken
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) 
 Mad Mike interview)

 I disagree.  I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws 
 and regulations.  The original post was about a specific detroit 
 related thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have

 to read a new email that has nothing to do with the op every time 
 somebody replies.  A subject change would easily fix this, and it's 
 just good netiquette.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in 
 itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
 Mike interview)


 people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines 
 accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded 
 radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not

 a

 performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able

 to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the

 downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and 
 UR

 aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for 
 downlaod

 the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not 
 the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by 
 the

 state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during 
 any

 given day.

  essentially it's the listener who needs to  This proves once again

 how NZ takes America's most trumped-up
 regulations and makes them worse.

 I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's 
 classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of digital 
 munitions, otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, my life as 
 a

 Kiwi arms courier.

 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html

 fh


 -- mail forwarded, original message follows --

 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
 Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)

 They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and 
 they

 do close people down for it.

 This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local 
 organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing 
 their

 fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers 
 podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist

 purely of talk.

 So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out 
 it

 was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand 
 who

 control broadcast licenses here):

 PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence 
 podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make 
 available music on demand is required to seek the permission of 
 the

 individual copyright owners concerned.

 So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from 
 here!Madness...










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 frank

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RE: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview)

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Taylor
F*** netiquette - what a sh!t word 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 September 2008 13:06
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)

It's a matter of educating people about the rules of netiquette, mate.

Also, I'm pretty chill.  I wasn't SHOUTING was I?

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 LOL!

 You don't have to read it mate! Chill. There are bigger problems in 
 this world aren't there? :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:40 PM
 To: Odeluga, Ken
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) 
 Mad Mike interview)


 I disagree.  I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws 
 and regulations.  The original post was about a specific detroit 
 related thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have

 to read a new email that has nothing to do with the op every time 
 somebody replies.  A subject change would easily fix this, and it's 
 just good netiquette.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in 
 itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
 Mike interview)


 people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines 
 accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded 
 radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not

 a

 performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able

 to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the

 downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and 
 UR

 aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for 
 downlaod

 the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not 
 the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by 
 the

 state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during 
 any

 given day.

  essentially it's the listener who needs to  This proves once again

 how NZ takes America's most trumped-up
 regulations and makes them worse.

 I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's 
 classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of digital 
 munitions, otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, my life as 
 a

 Kiwi arms courier.

 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html

 fh


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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
 Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)

 They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and 
 they

 do close people down for it.

 This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local 
 organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing 
 their

 fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers 
 podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist

 purely of talk.

 So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out 
 it

 was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand 
 who

 control broadcast licenses here):

 PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence 
 podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make 
 available music on demand is required to seek the permission of 
 the

 individual copyright owners concerned.

 So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from 
 here!Madness...










 --
 peace,

 frank

 dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com




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 frank

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RE: (313) Ughh poor Stooges

2008-08-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Man, they stole some pain killers 


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Subject: Re: (313) Ughh poor Stooges

That's terrible. That's a lot of freaking gear. Best wishes to those
individuals.

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 http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/783745035.html

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RE: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Taylor
I loved this mix - thanks DTM! 


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From: Kowalsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)

This is funny... I love States Of Mind's Elements Of Tone. It is the J's
A Mix version the one i love, wich i think is the version. But in
every mixtape i see this tune pops up, it is always Hawtin's mix.
Well, what a useless piece of mail i sent, huh? :)

Kw

On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Wes Prince wrote:

 Hi all,

 This mix looks well worth checking...can't beat the track list.

 http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/168251

 1. Reel By Real- Aftermath (Album Version) 10 Records 1990 2. Rhythim 
 Is Rhythim- Feel Surreal (Subconscious Mix) Transmat 1988 3. R-Tyme- 
 R-Theme (Mayday Mix) Transmat 1989 4. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Beyond The 
 Dance (Bizarro Mix) Transmat 1988 5. Mayday- Freestyle (Bongo Mix) 
 Pheerce City 1988 6. Shakir- Sequence 10 (10 Records 1988) 7. Juan- 
 Techno Music (10 Records 1988) 8. States Of Mind- Elements Of Tone 
 (Richie's Dream Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 9. We R Who We R- Derivative 
 (Kirk Smith Techno Mix) 2020 Records 1990 10. Mayday- Wiggin' (Master 
 Reese Mix) Pheerce Citi 1988 11. Shake- Sonar 123 (Interface Records 
 1990) 12. Reese- Inside Out (Fragile Records 1991) 13. Cybersonik- 
 Technarchy (Plus 8 Records 1990) 14. States Of Mind- Destiny (Champion

 Records 1991) 15. Cybersonik- Cabaret 7 (Champion Records 1991) 16. 
 F.U.S.E.- Refused (Champion Records 1991) 17. BFC- Evolution (Fragile 
 Records 1990) 18. Cybersonik- Carousel (Plus 8 Records 1990) 19. Reese

 And Santonio- Groovin' Without A Doubt (Re-Mix) Kool Kat Records
 1988
 20. Kevin Saunderson- The Groove That Won't Stop (Kool Kat Records
 1988)
 21. Octave One- I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) Transmat 1990 22. Octave 
 One- Nicolette (430 West 1991) 23. States Of Mind- Audio Q-5a (The 
 Zone Out Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 24. Reese- Just Want Another Chance 
 (Mix 3) Incognito Records 1988 25. Yennek- Serena X (Inner Zone Mix) 
 Buzz Records 1992 26. Kenny Larkin- Manik Man (Champion Records 1991) 
 27. World 2 World- Greater Than Yourself (Underground Resistance 1992)

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RE: (313) Alex Silverfish RiP

2008-07-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Sh!t, that's very sad news - I used to buy records from her shop 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: list 313
Subject: (313) Alex Silverfish RiP

reported by Ben Stroud on July 24, 2008

London underground techno pioneer Alex Silverfish was found dead at her
East London flat last weekend. Friends close to Alex told Skrufff she's
believed to have committed suicide. Alex was 43.

Starting her DJing career in 1989 (under the inauspicious moniker of DJ
Lowenbandiger) Alex set up London's first euro techno night 'the
Hiddenside' at the now defunct Bar Industria, with Marco Lenzi, Nils
Hess and Keith Fielder, going on to open the Silverfish record shop in
1991.

The Charing Cross Road shop, art-space and regular all night party venue
served as a key hub and meeting point between London's then thriving
squat party warehouse scene and the overground worldwide techno scene
and Alex rapidly became a star DJ, spinning alongside the likes of Aphex
Twin, Juan Atkins, Sven Vath and Joey Beltram, in the UK and abroad. She
went on to promote 287 Silverfish parties at warehouses and venues
across London becoming one of the capital's most respected and popular
party hosts of the 90s. She also remained passionately committed to
techno, labelling it a form of shamanism and a 'magic ritual' in an
interview with Skrufff in 2002.

Dancing to the rhythmic sound of the drums all night is something that
men have been doing for millions of years and in those rituals there are
lots of processes happening such as energy sharing between the DJ and
the crowd. Magic things and real healing can happen through techno,  
she said.

When I play techno to people I feel an energy coming out of my spine
and passing into the crowd, then coming back through the head. If you
play good music to people you receive a vibe in exchange and it's a
formidable sensation. This sensation is really what I still play for,
rather than the money for glory. That's why I still play for free in
lots of underground techno parties, she added.

Embracing electroclash alongside techno at the start of the decade Alex
also announced that she was taking steps towards changing sex from male
to female and lived the remainder of her life as a woman.

Chatting to Skrufff in 2003, she spoke enthusiastically about the
support she'd received from transgenderists in London's club scene and
from friends, who'd known her from her techno days, though was candid
about her ongoing struggles.

After a life of agony, four years of therapy and two suicide attempts,
I've finally started a sex reassignment program to correct a natural
error that occurred at birth, said Alex, Basically I've finally become
one after a lifetime of living a double life.

However, two years later, she spoke sadly about the hatred she routinely
encountered following her decision to live as a woman, particularly from
viciously homophobic gangs roaming the estates around her Hackney home.

Experiencing aggression and receiving hate has been a constant for
quite a few years, so much so that maybe I'm almost becoming used to the
daily abuse, she suggested.

I've always been spiritual and ascetic and, believe that hate can be
more contagious than love and everyday I try to forgive people's
ignorance and not to get contaminated, she wrote, At times it's hard
but there's not other way out, We live in a society of resentment,
rejection of freedom and homophobic hate.

Walking a lifetime with the gaze pointing down is, at the moment, the
best safe-choice of many gays, lesbians and transsexuals in a country
that apparently guarantees freedom around the world, she added.

Giving too much freedom to fascists of every faith always results in
weaker groups and sections of society losing theirs and suffering,  
she warned.

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RE: (313) My newest mix...

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Taylor
Interesting - a Henry Cullen mix of Laurie Anderson - he's D.A.V.E The
Drummer, purveyor of bangin' acid techno for dirty squat parties - it's
not anything like that is it? 


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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 July 2008 15:04
To: list 313; do id
Subject: (313) My newest mix...

... can be had from here:

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/07/10/guest-mix-chaircrusher

Done with Ableton Live, but it's one take, no tweaks.

I won't duplicate my verbiage there, but here's the track listing:

1. Ectomorph - Lost Angles (Manyangles Version) 2. Adult - Nightlife 3.
ESG - Dance 4. Chaircrusher - Purple 5. John Tejada - Sweet On The Walls
6. Five Mic Cluster - Basildon Lover 7. Ame - Sun Sugar 8. Alif Tree -
Forgotten Places (Moodyman Remix) 9. Arthur Russell - Get Around To It
10. Thom Yorke - Harrowdown Hill 11. Liquid Liquid - Caverns 12. Carl
Craig - My Machines 13. GrandCru - Out Of Isolation 14. Omar S - Untited
B01 (Detroit EP AOS-2) 15. Tolga Fidan - Tanbulistan 16. Fred Giannelli
- Delirious 17. Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso 18. Gregory Tresher - A
Thousand Nights 19. Sebbo - Watamu Beach (Moritz Von Oswald Rework) 20.
Laurie Anderson (Henry Cullen Bootleg remix) 21. Coldplay - Talk
(Francois K Dub) 22. Eamonn Doyle - Red Shift 23. As One - Chiaro 24.
Blackdown/Burial - Crackle Dub 25. Burial - Archangel 26. Reinhardt
Voigt - Charge Your Dreams 27. Coolzey vs Chaircrusher - Easy Pimp 28.
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RE: (313) My newest mix...

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Taylor
Over here, that brand of techno has been called the Status Quo of dance
music!
Still, I downloaded it - looks (mostly) cool - :) 


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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 July 2008 15:28
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) My newest mix...

It's exactly like that ;-)  I know Dave and Roland the Bastard because
they've played in Iowa City a couple of times.  Not Detroit techno by
any means, and not normally my sort of thing, but I have a lot of
respect for their working class, unpretentious dedication to their
craft.   That and their dedication to Lager.

I play that track because it's Laurie Anderson and it's banging. In
fact, I think it works better that it's a dirty, chugging beat behind 'O
Superman' than if it was something more restrained and tasteful.
I'd never play a whole set of that sort of thing, but sometimes it just
fits ;-)

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Interesting - a Henry Cullen mix of Laurie Anderson - he's D.A.V.E The

 Drummer, purveyor of bangin' acid techno for dirty squat parties - 
 it's not anything like that is it?


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RE: (313) RIP CBS.nu

2008-07-08 Thread Robert Taylor
 http://disception.net/lk/index.php
;)


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-Original Message-
From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2008 14:35
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: southernoutpost; Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu

hardcore suckthat place was my spot for a long time...awesome music
and cool people on the forum.

any recommend's for comparable spots? are there any?


On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 That's a pain. I was just getting into it, late  :(

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:32 PM
 To: Ronny Pries
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu


 I will miss the crazy ass Bunker acid track that used to drill my 
 brain at work.

 =
 Southern Outpost
 http://www.southernoutpost.com

 Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
 Infiltrating your sound systems
 =

 On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nooo. What a sad year - first othello bit the dust 
 and now CBS. I need my intergalactic italo disco injection on a 
 regular base. Help.

 http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23313p=1
 sad day.


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RE: (313) RIP CBS.nu

2008-07-08 Thread Robert Taylor
Forum + downloads + cool people = who needs radio when there's plenty of
quality mixes?
It's been said a lot today - radio is going the way of TV - on demand
tailored shows, not channels you tune into randomly 


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From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 July 2008 15:04
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Odeluga, Ken; southernoutpost; Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu

but where's the radio...

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  http://disception.net/lk/index.php
 ;)


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 -Original Message-
 From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 July 2008 14:35
 To: Odeluga, Ken
 Cc: southernoutpost; Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu

 hardcore suckthat place was my spot for a long time...awesome 
 music and cool people on the forum.

 any recommend's for comparable spots? are there any?


 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That's a pain. I was just getting into it, late  :(

 -Original Message-
 From: southernoutpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:32 PM
 To: Ronny Pries
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu


 I will miss the crazy ass Bunker acid track that used to drill my 
 brain at work.

 =
 Southern Outpost
 http://www.southernoutpost.com

 Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
 Infiltrating your sound systems
 =

 On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nooo. What a sad year - first othello bit the dust 
 and now CBS. I need my intergalactic italo disco injection on a 
 regular base. Help.

 http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23313p=1
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RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Robert Taylor
I've seen 6 year old kids wearing Ramones and CBGBs t-shirts - what is
the world coming to? 


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From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2008 10:31
To: Mann, Ravinder
Cc: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: (313) the circle of trends


He didn't moan about the kids on his lawn in this one though ;)

robin...

On 4 Jul 2008, at 10:13, Mann, Ravinder wrote:

 lol, best rant on 313 in years Greg.


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 Sent: 04 July 2008 00:27
 To: 313 Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Re: (313) the circle of trends


 kent williams wrote:
 What I'm waiting for is for people to start dressing and styling 
 their hairs like they do in those super early UK rave videos I've 
 seen. As someone who got into it a little later, seeing bad 80's hair

 and ridiculous bulky jumpers combined with dance music is 
 hilarious...

 Don't forget the flares!  I think it was Paul Weller who once said 
 that flares were the worst fashion invention ever.

 My own personal pet peeve is the repro Led Zeppelin United States of 
 America 1977 tour t-shirts.  It's one thing to wear a band t-shirt, 
 but a fake tour t-shirt for a tour that happened before you were 
 born?!?  (Yes, it especially pisses me off since I actually saw 
 Zeppelin in 1977 and bought that very shirt.)

 I just want to go up to all these kids and cuff 'em one upside the 
 head.
 Buy tour t-shirts from your own generation's bands, dagnabit.

 ---

 On an unrelated-but-(313) note, Kent mentioned RePHLeX and I see that 
 Grant Wilson-Claridge posted something on the UR Facebook tribute
 page:

 http://www.facebook.com/pages/UNDERGROUND-RESISTANCE/15822493325

 What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?

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RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Robert Taylor
People are dreadfully snobbish about it - I can see exactly why people
like it and fair play to them. Just as long as they don't move in next
to me. ;) 


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-Original Message-
From: Anton Banks (www.antonbanks.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2008 15:34
To: list 313
Subject: RE: (313) the circle of trends

Mixmag put it best. They called Happy Hardcore the evolution free
musical version of the Galapagos Islands.

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To: kent williams
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 Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which 
 by the generational clock, is due for a revival

I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs head
in shame)

Jason

PS Excellent post by the way



2008/7/2 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is an interesting topic. Interesting enought that I feel 
 compelled to pull some completely ungrounded theorizing out of my 
 tuchis.

 I think what drives these cycles at it's root is that people are like 
 ducks -- they form their deepest emotional attachment to the music 
 they hear when they're young.  This applies to people who actually 
 make music every bit as much as it does to punters.  So when it comes 
 their turn to provide the soundtrack for the zeitgeist, they turn 
 naturally to the music of their youth.  They update it with influences

 of everything that has happened in the meantime, changes in music 
 technology, etc. And this trolling through the wonder years is also 
 reactionary -- they use elements of what they liked about music past 
 to counter what they dislike about music present.

 So if House music is the current vogue, it's soul and gospel roots are

 an antidote to the blandness of minimal techno, combined with 
 nostalgia for the raw sounds of early House music.  This will be 
 replaced in due time with something else again.  And not so much 
 amongst us out in flyover country, but in New York, London, Berlin, 
 Paris, Barcelona, there's the element of fashion involved.  Once 
 something becomes too popular amongs the hoi  polloi, the in crowd 
 needs to find something different.




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RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Bangface was doing it a couple of years ago but seems to be more about
the breakcore these days - they do keep up the spirit of rave though,
with smileys and inflatable toys everywhere - I gather young Americans
have gone for that kind of rave aesthetic in a big way or am I wrong? 


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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 July 2008 16:36
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) the circle of trends

I think a couple years ago the Rephlex crew were throwing parties where
they played all sorts of early rave music.  Trying to bring back the
feeling of that first E, or something.  Forget it guys, those receptors
are blown.

I do an abbreviated version of that when I drop Bomb Scare and Mr Kirk's
nightmare, but it just seems to piss people off.

What I'm waiting for is for people to start dressing and styling their
hairs like they do in those super early UK rave videos I've seen.  As
someone who got into it a little later, seeing bad 80's hair and
ridiculous bulky jumpers combined with dance music is hilarious...


On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I kept feeling the early 90's Manchester biz would make a come back, 
 but I haven't seen its arrival yet.

 didn't that happen with the whole nu rave thing?

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RE: (313) X-102 clips - Mini Sonar Review.

2008-06-26 Thread Robert Taylor
I was at the Gang Of Four gig - if only I'd known! 


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From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 June 2008 00:57
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) X-102 clips - Mini Sonar Review.

In the end I couldn't justify the time and money to go to Barcelona.
So I stayed in london wishing I'd made it.  But I did manage to catch Rob Hood 
at Fabric (though it was touch and go as I again failed to pass whatever 
coolness check the door idiots have, the first time through the guy told me I 
had been drinking too much, a real laugh since the last drink I had was a beer 
after the Gang of Four/Tom Tom Club gig at the Royal Festival Hall the night 
before.  Gang of Four were just great by the way.

Anyway I eventually managed to blag my way in and saw most of Rob's set, which 
was mostly straight up DJing and not much with the advertised 909/effects.  He 
played strong and hard, I don't know what most of the tracks are though I 
recognized a few.

Marco Carolla was eh-ok and my old pal Doc Martin was lighting it up pretty 
nicely in the small room.  So it ended up being a pretty good night after all.

fh

-
Was Ronnie at the gig? surely if you wanted to see hands in the air and 
dancing on stage you'd go to Movement?


X-102 was a great gig, great sound, great visuals, although the main 
video screen was supposed to be projected
and not a massive LED screen, some of the visuals didnt tune out as well as 
they should have. But you wouldn't even notice that they hadn't.
The whole gig was also shown on the big screens with lots of close ups 
of Mills and Banks playing live. Lots of 909
from Mills and lots from Banks on the keyboards. 

They had to stop after a couple of minutes, the curtains closed for 
about 10 - 15 minutes, the video wasn't plugged
in. I think they played for about an hour. Definitley the best thing we saw at 
Sonar this year.

A few other reviews:

Ewan Pearson: He played twice on the Friday night, nice tracks, mixed very 
well.

Justice: Rubbish!

The Minus Crew: Nothing Special, I couldn't see the cube anywhere.

Villalobos: We didnt see much of this gig, it was after 5am when it 
started, it was ok but not enough to keep us from
feeling tired.

BC vs JC feat. Darren Emerson: Nothing special. 

Róisín Murphy: We didnt stay for too long at this gig, it didnt appear to be 
anything special.

Milton Jackson: Just saw this for a couple of minutes, seemed good but we 
didnt hang around.

We missed Theo, he was on late and we just forgot about it.

We saw some Deepcord, only for a little bit, it seemed ok, but didnt 
see enough to really know how it went, the
crowd seemed to be loving it. We stood at the side of the tent they played in, 
it didnt seem loud enough, but if we had of been in the tent it 
COH plays Cosey: This got boring very quickly, we left with the lyric of Fcuk 
it...Deeper...fcuk it Deeper...

The rest of Sonar by day was ok, nothing amazing grabbed my attention, it was 
just nice to sit around in the sun. 
There is always a great atmosphere in Sonar by day.

I'm sure I missed a few things, overall we had a good time, without the 
X-102 gig, I think I would have been a bit
disappointed with the weekend. I have some Pics  Video of the X-102 gig, I'll 
post them up in a few days.




G







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Sent: 24 June 2008 10:11
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) X-102 clips

Perhaps they should have come out wearing inflatable farmyard animal 
suits and even better, been suspended on rope with floating laptops and 
every time they held down Ctrl and L on their keyboards, strawberry 
laces fell from the heavens.

Sounds bang on to me.

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) X-102 clips


 Man, i guess would have been absolutely pissed there seeing Mills and 
 Banks standing around like waiting for a bus.

 That's what's called a liveact in 2008? Good night.

 Nice one.

 Here's another:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMLkBUvGCu8feature=related

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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:06 PM
 Subject: (313) X-102 clips


 A couple of clips from the X-102 performance on Saturday. More to 
 come later in the week when my brain gets back from the Barcelona beaches.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?vîZvceNhGGI

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QraP97Q6rc


 



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RE: (313) Arthur Russell film

2008-06-24 Thread Robert Taylor
There's also those beautiful songs he does with just him and his cello,
such as Keeping Up (one of my fave non-dancefloor tracks of all time) 


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From: Kowalsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: (313) Arthur Russell film

Go Bang and Loose Joints are both killer tracks. But there's another
Russell's discoish track i love called Get Around To It. Funky as hell,
but in a totally original Russell's way.

Kw

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:17 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 THAT'S RIGHT! Totally spaced that he's also Loose Joints. Those two 
 tracks are def. on the list of best dance tracks of all times.. You 
 should def, hit up his parents if you can get a showing there. A live 
 rendition of those tracks would be hot! It would be tempting to put 
 those tracks out back to back on 12 .. ;)



 Quoting kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Go Bang is One Of THOSE Tracks.  I always dug it for being dubby and 
 jazzy, but when I play it out people just go OFF.  It's hard for me 
 not to cane it every time I play.

 Russell grew up a little ways down the highway west of Iowa City.  I 
 contacted the producers to see if we can swing a showing here, so his

 mom and pop could come up. I bet they went to one of the premiers, 
 but it would do them good to see the love Arthur gets from Iowans.  
 We can put on a killer afterparty -- I turned a friend of mine who's 
 in a Jazz/Funk/Salsa band onto Arthur Russell, and his band would be 
 perfect to play Go Bang
 and Is It All Over My Face live ...

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This looks fantastic! Russel was a true pioneer; Dinosaur L - Go 
 bang is one of the most amazing tracks I've heard to date.. What a 
 shame he had to pass away so young..








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RE: (313) C2 Does Bowie

2008-06-20 Thread Robert Taylor
Is he a c**t? :) 


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-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 June 2008 20:06
To: Wes Prince; Dan Sicko; 313 Mailing List
Subject: RE: (313) C2 Does Bowie

LOL, didn't know Collin was a drummer. That explains a lot.

-Original Message-
From: Wes Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 June 2008 00:06
To: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) C2 Does Bowie

Extremely interesting new group, Zoos of Berlin, not least for the fact
that the drummer is Collin Dupuis, Carl's full-time recording engineer.
Check them out: 

http://wmw.myspace.com/zoosofberlin

Cheers,

Wes
--
http://www.myspace.com/westonprince

On 6/20/08 3:16 PM, Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From what I hear, it's essentially the Detroit band Zoos of Berlin 
 doing the cover (they've been recording in Carl's studio), and then 
 Carl did a mix/edit/something-or-other on it.
 
 Can't wait to hear it either way.
 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Cyclone Wehner 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is a cool new Bowie tribute Life Beyond Mars on Rapster. 
 Apparently Carl Craig has contributed, as with Kelley Polar and 
 Matthew Dear. You can hear audiofiles on Rapster's website 
 (rapsterrecords.com?) I don't have a track list but it's probably 
 online! This comp is from the same team behind Exit Music, the
Radiohead tribute.
 
 -
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RE: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T)

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Taylor
Dick Hymen is also a great pr0nstar name 


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From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T)

The whole argument is pointless.  Trans Europe Express and Autobahn were
huge hits on black radio.  I know because I heard them a lot on the
major DC stations (WOL and WOOK) at the time.  Same in Detroit I'm sure.
Whether Juan was influenced directly or not is for him to say.
Influence could mean I heard it on the radio or it could mean I had
the album and studied how they were making the sounds.  For our
purposes here, what does it matter, Kowalsky?

For what it's worth, the first electronic pop hit I recall was Dick
Hyman's Minotaur.  That was 1968.  He's a pretty remarkable guy, by
the way -- had an illustrious career as a jazz player, composer and
researcher and is still alive.  He has recordings released in every
medium from 78s to MP3s.

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RE: (313) Ice Ice Baby

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Taylor
Planet Es 


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From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 June 2008 15:19
To: Matt Kane's Brain; Martin Dust
Cc: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Ice Ice Baby

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Cc: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Ice Ice Baby


 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Shame Tom isn't here but Kelley can you pass this on :)

 http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/312912-01.htm

 What next, Mad Mike BBQ sets ;)
 
 Styrax Leaves lawn care equipment.


Transfloormats 

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RE: (313) Four elements on techno production

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Drexciya = Water 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2008 15:06
To: 313 List
Subject: (313) Four elements on techno production

Hi list,

Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether anyone can
recommend some music with a strong association to one of the elements?

There is a definite detroit association with one of the elements,
(ahem), but also Strand, Phonophani - earth, Derek Carr, Dave Angel,
Juan? - space (ie air), Shake - fire(?)

Can anyone provide any other 'element' tips

play nicely children

cheers


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RE: (313) 'Crater Crawlers' mix

2008-05-23 Thread Robert Taylor
I liked it too Matt! 


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From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 May 2008 09:40
To: Matt Chester
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Subject: Re: (313) 'Crater Crawlers' mix


Just a note on how much I enjoyed this mix. I'm not always feeling
techno these days (my age? :) ) but this did it for me. Not just the
tunes but the style of the mixing too.

Nice one Matt.

robin...


On 18 May 2008, at 19:46, Matt Chester wrote:

 Hi all - new mix I've just done... hope you enjoy :) cheers, matt

 www.11-hour.com/audio/mattchester_cratercrawlersmix.mp3
 80 mins / 96 mbs

 Jay Denham - The Truth - Disko B
 Orlando Voorn - Soulparty - Finest Blend Soundhack - Soundhack 1 - 
 Hardwax Billeebob - Sunshine - UR Bumper - Tough Groove - Mdex Kingpin

 Cartel - Fishfunk - Pure Plastic Recloose - Maui's Lament (B) - 
 Rushhour Moodymann - KDJ 16 - KDJ Deeon - Happy - Dancemania Random 
 Noise Generation - Instrument of Change - 430 West I-Cube - Chicago 
 Sur Seine - Versatile Theo Parrish - Falling Up (CC mix) - Third Ear 
 Traxx - Who's Pussy Is This? - Dancemania Todd Terry - Sunday Morning 
 (Kenny Dope mix) - Tony I-Cube - Disco Cubism (Daft Punk mix) - 
 Versatile Paris Mitchell - The Claps - Dancemania Gerald Mitchell - 
 Bellydancer - Motech
 X-101 - Sonic Destroyer - UR
 Brotha D - Rock The House - Dancemania Soul Tech - Rock The Bells - 
 Detrechno Underground Resistance - Footwars - UR Neil Landstrumm - 
 Miami Vice - Tresor Jay Denham - Sweet Jesus - Disko B Shake - For The

 Lamented - Frictional DJ3000 - Safe House - Motech Stasis - Point Of 
 No Return - B12 Shawn Rudiman - Approach - Finest Blend Gerald 
 Mitchell - Resident Warrior - Reincarnation Convextion - Spice Tea - 
 Down Low Carl Craig - They Were - Planet E Dark Energy - Mau Mau - UR 
 Neil Landstrumm - Tensions In New York - Tresor Matt Chester - 
 Desertification - 11th Hour Derrick May - Icon (Montage) - Transmat


 myspace.com/mattchester1
 myspace.com/11thhourrecordings
 virb.com/mattchester
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RE: (313) Synch in the city

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Taylor
Is that thing about a laptop for every child in Africa some kind of sick joke? 


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Subject: (313) Synch in the city

Reposted after deletion of rude Canadian artist name (sorry Kent).


-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 May 2008 10:38
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: FW: Synch in the city

Synch looks interesting again this year.  I'm not sure how it is now it's moved 
to Athens itself but I went a few years back when it was over on the North 
coast of Attica about 50km (?) away and then it was a great combination of 
party by night and beach / pool by day.


From: Synch newsletter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 May 2008 00:03
Subject: Synch in the city

SYNCH JUNE 13.14.15
Technopolis Athens
Benaki Museum
 
Synch’s 5th edition is expanded into 6 different venues in the center of 
Athens, from Technopolis and Benaki Museum to K44, Bios, Motel and Yoga Bala, 
For three days and nights the Greek capital’s center will be transformed into a 
big cultural event full of music, digital arts and technology.

Synch is showcasing artists with different musical backgrounds, who contribute 
to today’s music evolution. From the urban poets of the English North, Happy 
Mondays, the man -Juan Atkins- who invented the term “techno” and the “noisy” 
Chris  Cossey, to the sophisticated pop collective of Stereοlab, electro-pop 
diva Roisin Murphy, politically-minded Yo La Tengo and the electronic alliance 
of Kieran Hedben (Four Tet) and legendary drummer Steve Reid, who has 
collaborated with Miles Davis, Fela Kuti, James Brown. 
Synch also presents the new musical trends through the lens of Canadian Holy X, 
dubstep’ s (Kode 9, Pinch, Peverelist, Headhunter), and dance’s representatives 
(Juan Atkins, Andrew Weatherall, Luomo, The Field, Jamal Moss, DJ Pierre, 
Moritz Von Oswald), highlighting at the same time the work of electronic sound 
experimentalists like Vladislav Delay, Angel, Soisong and Staubgold Records’ 
roster. 

This year’s line up includes some of the most intriguing Greek acts like My Wet 
Calvin, Monika, Rodes, Your Hand In Mine, Parallel Worlds and many more.

Synch extends its exploration beyond music’s frontiers into the fields of 
Moving Image and New Media, while for the first time in Europe, the festival 
will present the sound software for one laptop per child, the first 100$ laptop 
that can provide every child in Africa (and not alone) access to knowledge and 
modern forms of education and creativity.
 
TICKETS
 
From 24th of March to 8th of May:
 
3 day full festival pass (Technopolis  Benaki Museum): 70 € Exclusively from 
www.synch.gr
 
From 9th of May to 12th of June:
 
3 day full festival pass (Technopolis  Benaki Museum): 80 €
1 day ticket for Technopolis: 40 €
1 day ticket for Benaki Musem: 15 €
 
At the door:
 
1 day ticket for Technopolis: 45 €
1 day ticket for Benaki Musem: 20 €
 
TECHNOPOLIS (100 Pireos Street, Gazi)
BENAKI MUSEUM (138 Pireos Street)
Κ44 (44 Konstantinoupoleos Street, Gazi) BIOS (84 Pireos Street, Kerameikos) 
YOGA BALA (5-7 Riga Palamida Street, Psirri) MOTEL CLUB (26 Dekeleon Street, 
Gazi)
 
www.synch.gr
www.myspace.com/synchfestival
synchfestival facebook group


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RE: (313) Synch in the city

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Taylor
Seems like a bit of Chris Morris satire to me!



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Sent: 07 May 2008 16:18
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Subject: Re: (313) Synch in the city


On 7 May 2008, at 16:10, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Is that thing about a laptop for every child in Africa some kind of 
 sick joke?


It's a massive project that's been going on for a few years Rob, intel  
have just pulled out of it.

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RE: (313) Synch in the city

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Taylor
Can every child in Africa afford $100? And wouldn't many rather spend it on 
something else? 


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Sent: 07 May 2008 16:22
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Synch in the city

No I've heard of that project before, it's genuine.

It might be pretty hard to implement completely, at about $100/£50 per an 
extremely basic pc.

It's got an upside and downside of course - some could construe it as high-tech 
imperialism - sounds like a buzz word but it doesn't take much imagination to 
realize that it could work negatively that way. But it could also have benefits 
too.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$100_laptop

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Is that thing about a laptop for every child in Africa some kind of sick joke? 


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Subject: (313) Synch in the city

Reposted after deletion of rude Canadian artist name (sorry Kent).


-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 May 2008 10:38
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: FW: Synch in the city

Synch looks interesting again this year.  I'm not sure how it is now it's moved 
to Athens itself but I went a few years back when it was over on the North 
coast of Attica about 50km (?) away and then it was a great combination of 
party by night and beach / pool by day.


From: Synch newsletter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 May 2008 00:03
Subject: Synch in the city

SYNCH JUNE 13.14.15
Technopolis Athens
Benaki Museum
 
Synch’s 5th edition is expanded into 6 different venues in the center of 
Athens, from Technopolis and Benaki Museum to K44, Bios, Motel and Yoga Bala, 
For three days and nights the Greek capital’s center will be transformed into a 
big cultural event full of music, digital arts and technology.

Synch is showcasing artists with different musical backgrounds, who contribute 
to today’s music evolution. From the urban poets of the English North, Happy 
Mondays, the man -Juan Atkins- who invented the term “techno” and the “noisy” 
Chris  Cossey, to the sophisticated pop collective of Stereοlab, electro-pop 
diva Roisin Murphy, politically-minded Yo La Tengo and the electronic alliance 
of Kieran Hedben (Four Tet) and legendary drummer Steve Reid, who has 
collaborated with Miles Davis, Fela Kuti, James Brown. 
Synch also presents the new musical trends through the lens of Canadian Holy X, 
dubstep’ s (Kode 9, Pinch, Peverelist, Headhunter), and dance’s representatives 
(Juan Atkins, Andrew Weatherall, Luomo, The Field, Jamal Moss, DJ Pierre, 
Moritz Von Oswald), highlighting at the same time the work of electronic sound 
experimentalists like Vladislav Delay, Angel, Soisong and Staubgold Records’ 
roster. 

This year’s line up includes some of the most intriguing Greek acts like My Wet 
Calvin, Monika, Rodes, Your Hand In Mine, Parallel Worlds and many more.

Synch extends its exploration beyond music’s frontiers into the fields of 
Moving Image and New Media, while for the first time in Europe, the festival 
will present the sound software for one laptop per child, the first 100$ laptop 
that can provide every child in Africa (and not alone) access to knowledge and 
modern forms of education and creativity.
 
TICKETS
 
From 24th of March to 8th of May:
 
3 day full festival pass (Technopolis  Benaki Museum): 70 € Exclusively from 
www.synch.gr
 
From 9th of May to 12th of June:
 
3 day full festival pass (Technopolis  Benaki Museum): 80 €
1 day ticket for Technopolis: 40 €
1 day ticket for Benaki Musem: 15 €
 
At the door:
 
1 day ticket for Technopolis: 45 €
1 day ticket for Benaki Musem: 20 €
 
TECHNOPOLIS (100 Pireos Street, Gazi)
BENAKI MUSEUM (138 Pireos Street)
Κ44 (44 Konstantinoupoleos Street, Gazi) BIOS (84 Pireos Street, Kerameikos) 
YOGA BALA (5-7 Riga Palamida Street, Psirri) MOTEL CLUB (26 Dekeleon Street, 
Gazi)
 
www.synch.gr
www.myspace.com/synchfestival
synchfestival facebook group


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RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Underpants is a great tune 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2008 16:28
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on
liking for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I think.  When I
first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he looks like
he's trying to rip off that other guy from a few weeks back's style
;-)


 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57
 
 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a 
 significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky 
 buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more 
 props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the 
 festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic 
 was re-released last year I believe.


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RE: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Americans pronounce it all funny - like it rhymes with snot 


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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 May 2008 13:48
To: Martin Dust
Cc: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie
Hawtin RA Podcast

Haha there's a word I don't use because a woman I respect told me it was
disrespectful to women. But every time I see it it cracks me up.
Especially since 'twatting' is apparently a slang term for a good ol Amy
Winehouse headbutt.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yeah, I agree it does sound a bit twatish of me :

But more on point -- while Dust Science may make marketing look easy, it
is quite difficult.  First record I released I spent considerable time
sending copies of the records with a 2 sheet to every magazine I could
think of, followed up by e-mails to review contacts, and I got zero
reviews, and sold 350 records out of a 500 record pressing.  The next
one I released I blew off marketing entirely except sending white labels
to DJs I knew who I knew would at least listen to it.  I sold 350
records out of a 500 record run.  And the second record was played all
over, including by Ben Sims to huge festival crowds. Go figure.

So go figure. Of course I'm ... me, and Richie is Richie, and he was in
the right place at the right time, and Amir Daza took a liking to him,
and he had Dan Bell to get all his good ideas from *duck*  I
honestly begrudge him nothing... no really.
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RE: (313) Meanwhile, back in Detroit......

2008-05-01 Thread Robert Taylor
I liked what he and DJ Qu were playing at Fabric last week 


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 May 2008 09:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 313
Subject: Re: (313) Meanwhile, back in Detroit..

my favorite of jus-ed's by far is come on and dance off his hexigon
ep http://www.discogs.com/release/967114

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hey Frank- thanks for the info- everybody here always talks about him

 being from Detroit so I just assumed.  I think he's done a good few  
 tracks and his sound can be sparse in places (like Omar) but so far he

 hasn't really produced and monster tracks (plenty of time to come
  though)

  Hey Joe- I did use Meanwhile...back in Detroit as the subject line

 so it's fair enough that Frank pulled me on it!

  cheers

  Jason

  2008/4/30 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Dj Jus-Ed- don't remember much discussion about this guy on the 
   list
  before...he's got some new material coming soon...what's
peoples'
  thoughts on him?  The next Omar S? :)  Omar S is the next

 Omar S.  Jus-Ed is quite good but 1) he's fromconnecticut, not 
 detroit and 2) he's got a bit of a different stylethan omar, a 
 bit more delano smith / mike grant / moods and groovesthan that 
 real lo-fi omar aesthetic.
  
peace,
  
frank
  
dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com  




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peace,

frank

dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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