RE: (313) Recent detroit house
Yeah, agreed, I think the Randolph joint is hot--especially the Quote Me On That track. The interview stuff is OK but gets old after awhile. I hope KDJ puts these tracks out on vinyl and adds some length soon. Just saw that DJ Genesis has a new record ready to pop--with mixes by Amp Fiddler and Dez. Going to see Roy Ayers tonight. Anyone caught his recent shows? I've always like his act, but sometimes he can ramble on a bit. Scott -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:45 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recent detroit house -- Original Message -- From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wasn't really that into the Paul Randolph album much really? i mean its hardly groundbreaking to be sure, but the song writing and instrumentation on that album is much better than just about all the other vocal house stuff coming out. didnt watch the interview yet, but i definitely like all the audio cuts. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Norm Talley
Norm Talley spins with Mike Clark and Beatdown Sounds at Agave on Sunday night. I think he's sometimes a guest at the Bat Lounge in the Greektown area on Friday night--Delano Smith is the resident there I think. Also I think he sometimes spins with Eddie Fowlkes at Vivo's in Eastern Market on Saturdays. Otherwise, Fridays at Oslo have been incredible lately. Check it out. www.soft-curls.com This weekend is the Dally in the Alley, which is a fine way to end the summer--this year will be no exception. http://dallyinthealley.com/music.html Scott -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:22 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Norm Talley Hey what day of the week does he spin at agave and at what time. Id definitely like to check that out. btw...just moved to Annarbor from Seattle so Im super psyched to check out as much local stuff as I can. I can finally make proper use of this list!!! Yay. chana
(313) Mixmode Records - Delano Smith's label
Don't know if folks have gotten the 3 records on Mixmode yet. I just got #2 #3 this week. Haven't gotten #1 yet. I think they're really excellent. Delano's cut on #2, Back in the Day, is a cold KDJ-inspired disco-loop. Tony Foster's #3 record has a spacey after-hours feel to it--but still some funky *** house. Scott
RE: (313) Juan Atkins in Detroit, Friday nite
Nice! If folks can get cheap tickets to Detroit this weekend it will be well worth the money--the Jazz Festival will feature Aretha, Lou Rawls, Marcus Belgrave and a bunch of other Detroit cats--not the least of whom will be the James Carter. Also Tortured Soul will be playing in Royal Oak on Sunday. Not bad for one weekend. Scott -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:07 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Juan Atkins in Detroit, Friday nite seems kinda 313-worthy ;) Begin forwarded message: From: soft curls [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 2, 2004 10:55:12 AM CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: this Friday nite this FRIDAY SEPT 3 OSLO 10pm-3am (313)963-0300 JUAN ATKINS (Metroplex) DIRECTIONS + INFO: http://www.soft-curls.com -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) 3 Chairs - Chicago
Interesting. KDJ did a Prince Party at OSLO (Detroit) last weekend. He put up a translucent screen in front of the booth to obscure his identity. The set was excellent. Most memorable was the a very long edit of JAN with a much longer excerpt of the Prince/Mojo interview. Great night. This Saturday was a free 3 hour D May set in the recently expanded Orchestra Hall. Sweet set-up with Derrick on the second floor of a three floor atrium--with partiers above, bellow and all-around. Meanwhile Minx and Strand tore it up in an adjacent room. Best of all--no smoking inside the facility! Peace, Scott Then Moodymann took his turn sporting a freaky halloween mask, his afro all blowed out huge, and it was a Rick James (R.I.P.) love fest.. he started with 'You and I' and played it start to finish, then later 'Cold Blooded' (god i love that percussion on a big system) and lots of cool disco, also Moscow Discow, rolling stones 'Miss You' (!), the 3-Chairs 'Theme' (also featured on their new 3xLP which is great, BTW)... prince - controversy (w/ everyone singing the people call me rude, i wish we all were nude part, hah), anyway if you like dirty disco and detroit house and occasional italo and dusty dance oddities, these guys deliver. Though I usually have no idea what these guys are playing, KDJ seemed to stick to some of the more recognizable cuts but this was fine with the crowd to be sure. peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) Techno Geography
Interesting comments. I too think about this kind of stuff alot. A few thoughts: I ended up in Detroit (city) 10 years ago this summer--coming from rural Indiana--when I got a job in Detroit rather than Chicago, my first choice. At the time I knew next-to-nothing about Detroit techno, except what a good friend had told me about a party he had attended where D Wynn, D May and R Hawtin changed his life forever--later I figured out that it was in the Packard Plant. Back in Indiana my buddy turned me on to the sounds of the Chicago and Detroit underground. I had to check-out that scene once I arrived in Detroit. I went to a party at the Packard Plant and I have been a fan and amateur DJ of Detroit-inspired techno and house ever since. I have often mused about what makes Detroit such a special place, being the soil in which soul, funk, techno and house have taken firm root and flourished. While Detroit has well-known negatives, these limitations (like someone said earlier) can be extremely rich sources of inspiration. I think this is why Detroit is such fertile ground for strong and self-directed people. However, many places have these same limitations, and sources of inspiration, but these cities did not oversee several musical revolutions, and perennially produce the remarkable musical talents of Detroit. Why Detroit? My personal opinion about this is that Detroiters (at least since the 20s) have been free-thinking, forward-looking, embracing of democracy and technology, but skeptical of Amerika. (The Diego Rivera mural in the Detroit Institute of Arts sums it up best for me). Detroiters have fought (for real) for their place in the middle-class. I believe that this struggle, and the passion for a better life and a more just world, comes through in the music and gives it the unique Detroit quality--at once dark and bluesy and optimistic and forward-thinking. Looking back over these last 10 years of my life (funny that it coincides with this list's anniversary), the people of Detroit have changed me in very positive, personal ways. But, it is the music that has always hooked me in, kept me refreshed and happy to stay put. I'm very proud of Detroit and its accomplishments, musically and otherwise. I want to thank the members of this list for reminding me of the greatness of this city, day in and day out. Peace, Scott Check it out: Commentator Cornel West talks with NPR's Tavis Smiley about why he thinks Detroit, Mich., is the music capital of black America. http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3179105 -Original Message- From: fwdthought [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Techno Geography Friends, I think all of this talk on geography and how it affects our productivity/ involvement/ opportunities as producers, djs, artists, fans etc. is a key topic. It matters, and it does not matter. First, I must quote The Pet Shop Boys... ...there's a lot of opportunities, if there are'nt you can make them... I've been very tempted to move to Detroit. However, after questioning my motivations, I see that by doing so, I am only chasing myths and ghosts of what I think a Detroit experience should be. I can say that the few times I have visited, I have been completely blown away: the sincere people, Detroit's love of ALL music, Detroit's freakishness...and of course all of the incredible artists that populate that city, in their varied mediums, not just techno music. I'm talking photgrapy, advertising, graphic design, political thought, journalism. Detroit Rock City! Godamn it! I really think you are born into it and must have it in your blood and veins. I am happy with the idea that it CANNOT be transplated by a simple change of geography. (Apply to your dream city/ situation of choice) Great teachers want their disciples to spread the word, set up their own churches, communes, record labels, clubs, 'zines...etc. Detoit is the teacher. I guess it depends on what you are doing. I have found that more easy going evirons fuel my creativity, as a producer. I can riff and ramble on this a lot more. My head hurts right now. Peace, Louis
RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR
Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: (313) DEEEEE-TROIT Basketball
Was like New Year's or Beirut near my house, with guns and firecrackers going off all around. Awesome night for Detroit tho. Those guys were playing so well I almost wish it weren't over. There's a parade from Chene Park to Hart Plaza tomorrow at noon. Should be a blast as long as it doesn't rain. Maybe they'll have a techno float--Love Parade style! Scott -Original Message- From: ani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) DE-TROIT Basketball shit was crazy, wish you people could have seen it. we were less than a block from the spirit of detroit. : -Original Message- : From: doris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:06 AM : To: John Sokolowski : Cc: 313@hyperreal.org : Subject: Re: (313) DE-TROIT Basketball : : : i'd LOVE to see what's going on in downtown right about now... : :
(313) New 3 Chairs LP - good stuff
Got the new 3 Chairs LP last night at their party here in Detroit. Really great stuff taking off from the EP last year--but 3 plates long. Scott
RE: (313) Pontiac Housefest - ?
No it's not. Try www.pthf.net Scott -Original Message- From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 3:23 PM To: 313-hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Pontiac Housefest - ? Anyone know where that's at these days? I know it was supposed to be July 10-11th, but the site which used to be up for it looks to be unpaid and usurped. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/pont12_20040512.htm I'd appreciate any infos about buying VIP passes if this is happening still. It appears to be on the city calendar, but as I said, the site which used to be dedicated to it is gone. jeff
RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
Hello All, The UR party was one of my top 5 events of all time--number 1 as I write this. Timeline far exceded my very high expecations--not merely playing live instruments/efx machines over the top of UR classics, but completely reworking the orginals to the point it sometimes took several minutes to figure out which track they were working out. They closed with this absolutely amazing soul/gospel jam that must have gone on for 15-20 minutes. Chuck of UR had the coolest projections/mini-movies for each song too. What an awesome show. Can't remember seeing a better--except maybe Amp on Saturday night, but that's another story. So many great sets all weekend long. There's an interesting story in the Detroit Free Press today. Check it out. Hard to believe all the drama behind the scenes with only a few cliches--like no Osunlade. Best. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:32 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement Anyway I'm not gonna go on and on even though I could. Met lots of cool people, a few from the 313 list, yeah, and the music was great and all that, blah blah I'll leave it for another post. :) come on, come on! the suspense is killing me...! how was last night? how was the UR party? what about the ultradyne/ectomorph one, or the recloose/john arlnold/ayro or the c.young/shake/d.bell or... bah, I could go on forever. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) 3 Chairs - New LP
Just got a flier for a 3 Chairs Album release party at the Majestic in Detroit on June 5, 2004. Sounds good. Still digging the last release. Scott -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 1:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT: Scanner remixes Throbbing Gristle OK, so it's not C2 remixing Hot On The Heels Of Love, but ... http://www.scannerdot.com/tg/TGScan_Branded_%26_Soldered.mp3 - Greg
RE: (313) Omar S
Yeh, I picked up that DJ Genesis Tonight-Tribute to Betty over the weekend. Very nice. The Omar S 2.5 on the back is strange though--Basic Channel edit w/ muted vocal. Also found a nice mix of all of these records (2, 2.5, 3 Tonight by DJ Genesis) at Spirit of House today. See the WMC 2004 - Part 6 - Detroit and Chicago United Mix - by Michael Fossati. Scott -Original Message- From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Omar S i very like that 'tribute to betty' but that's another label :-) === Nomorewords.net IJplein 262, 1021 LR, Amsterdam The Netherlands http://nomorewords.net phn +31-20-494-5535 fax +31-20-494-5510 - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) Omar S Piccadilly, Drew. They don't charge that much on postage though. Snap it up quick, before it goes for ever... Chris. I have been searching for this piece of vinyl off and on. Recently I pulled it up on piccadilly but I don't want to pay for shipping and all from there. Mind if I ask where you got your copy from? -drew Chris Anglesey wrote: Picked up the Omar S 002 today, at long last. Brilliant piece of vinyl. Has anyone seen 001 about, or does it even exist ? Heard snippets of 003 today but it didn't reach me as much as the second one. Maybe it's one that grows on you though... Chris.
RE: (313) Movement Afterparties
If I'm not mistaken the 2500 Club is on the corner of Park and Henry--used to the Park Henry Bar--in the South end of the Cass Corridor, what the yuppies like to call Mid-Town. Defintely a colorful location on the order of last year's Gree Light Go party. Except the place is brick, so hopefully it will support us all. Should be a blast. Scott -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:46 PM To: Drew Daugherty; '313 List' Subject: Re: (313) Movement Afterparties Fri May 28 - Green Light Go by CPM and Element Detroit @ 2500 Club w/Claude Young, Dan Bell, Shake, Cabanne, Jeff Samuel, Shawn Rudiman - Original Message - From: Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313 List' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Movement Afterparties Someone posted to detroitluv about there being another green light go party, but gave no details. Really hoping this is not just bs since this was one of the high points for me last year. -drew Gerald wrote: I thought you'd usually here about an afterparty or two by now. There's the Speedy J party @ St. Andrews - but has anyone heard about any other possible events; anything that hasn't been officially announced yet? Cheers! G -- www.gerald-matrix.com
RE: (313) Omar S
Yeh, Omar S 002 is wonderful, but I personally like 003 even more. It's incredible. Hard to categorize this music, sorta basic channel meets deep moody house. If you see 003 I would not pass it up. I picked it up last week and have been listening to it daily ever since. 003 is also cool because the B-side cut runs inside out. By the way I was told by Rick Wilhite that Omar S 001 is gone. Scott
(313) Correct Info on Eddie's Fest... was RE: (313) Eddie Fowlkes House Festival
Got this e-mail from John Patterson Thanks John. Hey just emailed Huck and he gave me this address for Eddies fest... http://www.pthf.net/ -Original Message- From: Scott K Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:02 PM To: 'KiDDy*RaVeR'; 'ThReE-oNe-ThReE' Subject: (313) Eddie Fowlkes House Festival Ok, if memory serves, I do think it's scheduled for July 17-18 at the Phoenix Center. I also heard that Carl Craig will be performing with the Detroit Experiment at the Taste Fest this year--July 4th weekend. Can't wait. -Original Message- From: KiDDy*RaVeR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:02 PM To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Subject: Re: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July Yea i think he had this idea for months cause when eddie, theo parrish and norm talley came in Paris last October 2003, i was chatting with norm and i remember he said that eddie wanted to throw a house festival as big as the demf/movement can be just one month after. And he named a city, but im not really familiar with Detroit and Michigan geography :) - Kiddy. - Original Message - From: John Sokolowski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July I was in Recordtime a few months back and Huckaby talked about this. Huckaby: Eddie Fowlkes is throwing a festival in Pontiac this Summer. Me: That sounds interesting. Huckaby: Damn right interesting. I would bet its at the Phoenix Center. Cheers! From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Drew Daugherty' [EMAIL PROTECTED],'313 List' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:23:35 -0400 On Friday I think it was Eddie Fawlkes was on WDTR here in Detroit announcing his first annual House Festival in Pontiac for some time in July. He said it was to raise money for Shake's MS treatment. Anyone else heard about this? Scott
(313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July
On Friday I think it was Eddie Fawlkes was on WDTR here in Detroit announcing his first annual House Festival in Pontiac for some time in July. He said it was to raise money for Shake's MS treatment. Anyone else heard about this? Scott -Original Message- From: Drew Daugherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:24 PM To: '313 List' Subject: Re: (313) Movement Afterparties Someone posted to detroitluv about there being another green light go party, but gave no details. Really hoping this is not just bs since this was one of the high points for me last year. -drew Gerald wrote: I thought you'd usually here about an afterparty or two by now. There's the Speedy J party @ St. Andrews - but has anyone heard about any other possible events; anything that hasn't been officially announced yet? Cheers! G -- www.gerald-matrix.com
(313) Pirahna Head - was RE: (313) pocket techno rocket
Pirahna Head has a newish record out on DJ Minx's label--Women on Wax--that's a very successful broken-beat meets Detroit record. Also Moods Grooves is set to release a new Pirahna Head record that I've been told is fantastic. WOW also has a very sought after white label by Divina (I think) that may soon be remixed by the likes of Danny Krivit. Very good year for Minx. Scott p.s. looking for recommendatons on any good 'broken' style stuff thats around at the minute if anyones picked anything tasty up. ta...
(313) Eddie Fowlkes House Festival
Ok, if memory serves, I do think it's scheduled for July 17-18 at the Phoenix Center. I also heard that Carl Craig will be performing with the Detroit Experiment at the Taste Fest this year--July 4th weekend. Can't wait. -Original Message- From: KiDDy*RaVeR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:02 PM To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Subject: Re: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July Yea i think he had this idea for months cause when eddie, theo parrish and norm talley came in Paris last October 2003, i was chatting with norm and i remember he said that eddie wanted to throw a house festival as big as the demf/movement can be just one month after. And he named a city, but im not really familiar with Detroit and Michigan geography :) - Kiddy. - Original Message - From: John Sokolowski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July I was in Recordtime a few months back and Huckaby talked about this. Huckaby: Eddie Fowlkes is throwing a festival in Pontiac this Summer. Me: That sounds interesting. Huckaby: Damn right interesting. I would bet its at the Phoenix Center. Cheers! From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Drew Daugherty' [EMAIL PROTECTED],'313 List' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Eddie Fawlkes - Pontiac House Festival - Mid-July Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:23:35 -0400 On Friday I think it was Eddie Fawlkes was on WDTR here in Detroit announcing his first annual House Festival in Pontiac for some time in July. He said it was to raise money for Shake's MS treatment. Anyone else heard about this? Scott
RE: (313) new moodymann album
Wow, seems that releasing in Japan has become a theme--first Theo. Nice to see Shades of Jae will be on there. Also, it appears that the long-awaited Funky Chocolate NJB/KDJ is also out in Japan. Scott -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) new moodymann album black mahogani allready out in Japan. listen here (with realplayer): http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100208 Cheers, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/
RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?
Think I saw it at Hot Grooves for less than $10. Sure hope Record Time isn't jacking up the price that much. Scott -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:51 PM To: 'J. T.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses? well it worked out at £11.99 over here ($20-25!) cheaper than ebay prices i guess but still a little cheeky somebody's been looking at the Ugly Edit prices and taken note. robin... - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - org] On Behalf Of J. T. - Sent: 14 April 2004 17:47 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses? - - - i saw the first 69 repress at recordtime over the - weekend...it was $16!! - maybe it had the wrong sticker on it, i didnt have any money - anyway so didnt - ask. is it a euro press distrib thing? orr..oh well. - - - I've asked Carl Craig about this repress last friday (@ - nouveau casino - -Paris) and he said the three 69 records are going to be - repressed, but - he did not mention a date. A good news for everybody who - missed them and - don't want to spend hundreds on ebay !!! - - Hope that helps :) - - - On 14-apr-04, at 16:52, Lee Herrington IV wrote: - - -can anyone speak to the possibility that there will be more 69 - represses? - it's nice to be able to own a copy of 4 jazz funk - classics without - having - to sell major organs to fund the purchase. - - - _ - FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! - http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ - - --- - Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. - Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). - Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 29/03/2004 - - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 29/03/2004
RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?
Maybe this is some kind of ploy to cash in on the ebay resale market. If you don't flood the market with a bunch of represses then most people will still be looking to ebay for the think in a couple of months or so. Seems like undue stress on the consumer who just wants to hear the music on vinyl and not just worship it's rarity. Scott -Original Message- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses? I agree with J.T. just think $17 for the record today with 1-4 tracks then a CD tomorrow with 8 plus tracks will end up priced at $34 this absolutely squeezes out the small labels. I think the reason behind this is If and artist is hot today, there is no guarantee he/she will be hot tomorrow so they make as much money as they can today. But if we keep buying they will keep selling TS-1 -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses? what?? there's no reason for a gd repress to be $17. f that. i aint buying it. i'll wait to pick up a dozen other classics for the same money at a secondhand place. there's loads of other classics out there... i dont think there are many positive ramifications of pricing records this way. it is supply and demand yes, high price to make as much profit as possible because demand is not that great. those who want it want it bad enough to pay the retarded price. it's a kinda shady way to hype your product: it costs a lot -- it must be good! it's worth it! well maybe, but it's not worth 3 times the price of other new records, especially not for a repress. even from a collector standpoint..all glory is to the original pressing, traditionally represses arent worth much, they even devalue. you cant put a price on good music, but there is a standard price for records so... overall i think this trend stinks. leaves buyers with a smaller budget for other new records, gives these high-priced classics, new peacefrogs etc, somewhat undue priority with your wallet. nice marketing trick but makes the vinyl market even more exclusive, and harder for smaller labels to stay in the game. generally takes some joy out of buying new records. whatever. props to clone for repressing glass domain with a normal pricetag. its supply and demand. even @ $10 and up from US distros, all the distros were out within hours of getting them in. i know my demand for the record was well over $17 (what i paid for it from submerge) but well under what a used copy goes for on ebay. ill be happy to get the other 69 records for the same price as well. now carl needs to repress those retroactive records and a couple more early planet e joints to make me happy. tom andythepooh.com _ Limited-time offer: Fast, reliable MSN 9 Dial-up Internet access FREE for 2 months! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialuppgmarket=en-usST=1/go/onm00200361ave/ direct/01/ The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
RE: (313) Movement 2004 Lineup
This story about the Stacy Pullen show at the Necto last Thursday said that the schedule was still a couple of weeks away. http://www.detroitmovementguide.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=ar ticlesid=21 Scott -Original Message- From: ani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:54 AM To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Movement 2004 Lineup i haven't heard anything either...
RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes
Agreed, there are many many great gospel house records, and many not so good ones. A few of my favorites are: Kenny Bobien, Why We Sing I Shall Not Be Moved Su Su Bobien, I Can't Keep It To Myself Vernessa Mitchell, Higher Kerri Chandler, Hallelujah For a release with the gospel house sound but w/o the supernatural references, this one kills it: DJ Oji Una, We Lift Our Hands In The Sanctuary (Sancsoul Records) 2003 Scott -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:53 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes Gospel house ??? First time I see mention of that, could it be possible to name some good records of that genre ? thanks ! Gwendal
RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes
TP has a semi-regular gig on Detroit Public Schools' radio (90.9) Monday gospel house show and it's always very fun and entertaining. I love that garage-gospel house that he plays even though I can't relate to all of it. And his ability to work a mixer and efx...incredible! Scott -Original Message- From: DelCimmuto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:20 PM To: Phonopsia; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes hahaah well Im sorry If I gave you the impression I was baiting the list so I could pounce on the religious angle. he does still rock it. saw him with green velvet and stacey pullen late last year (in detroit) and what struck me was he was playing some extremely swung house music (think herbert style swing, but harder tracks) -joe -
RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs
As I heard on the Detroit public schools radio station here this morning--the cuts are the result of two things: a state-wide 55 cent per pupil reduction, and a federal reduction due to the fact that other cities (like the D.C. public schools) are getting a bigger share of previously allocated poverty funds. In other words, other schools are now as poor or poorer than the Detroit public schools and therefore get some of Detroit's money. Got to balance that budget. It's unbelievable. Scott -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:42 AM To: Martin Dust; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs I don't think it's boring and I would love to have the sentence Martin lined out explained as well... Give us some insight, Diana! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 5. April 2004 14:47 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs Maybe, it's just the whole way language is used - long weekend talking about such stuff but I won't bore you with it :/ When a child comes from a low socio-economic household you're dealing with a lot of diff't cards both academically for a child and also in terms of school financial support. Can you explain what you mean here? Off list if you like... Martin
RE: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs
Relating this to music, I personally fear that the DPS radio station will be forced to make drastic cuts in staff and programming. This is probably one of the few stations in the country to have a daily house show from 4-6p with guest DJs 3 days a week--folks like T. Parker, Rick Wilhite, Minx, Al Ester, etc. Although much less tragic than the loss of 700 teachers--an institution that would be missed by many here. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:17 AM To: diana potts Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs Relating this to the music - I can only wonder what kind of sounds we'll hear coming from those who grow up live in these conditions. Lisa
RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs
I think the more obvious answer to this puzzle lies in who will benefit from the 35 million. Suburban law-makers are willing to help Detroit if they get something out of it in terms of contracts and a big urban playground for sports, clubs, condos, etc. If it's just money for helping city kids learn to read, forget about it. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:47 PM To: Dennis DeSantis Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kent williams; 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs The same day that they announced the cutting of the jobs, they also announced in the free press (www.freep.com) the allotment of 35 million dollars to cleanup the city (road projects) for the 2005 all star game, and the 2006 superbowl. I think the main thinking behind this, is that it can help more money come into the city through alternate means, and hopefully get some of those teaching jobs back. Not sure what I think personally... dns
(313) New Prescription Record
Last weekend I grabbed this new Prescription Record (PRI 001A) titled ABYEE by Armon Bazile, with tracks Deepblak'd on A and You In Love on B. Ron Trent doing AR. I really like this record, although it has a kinda slick and airy production. However, the beats on both tracks are open and sparse, making for nice mixing. The A side is particularly nice because it has a very tasteful MLK sermon bit on the second half of the track--and it's not the I have a dream speech which has been played to death. Judging from the thank-yous and such on the back of the record, it appears that Mr. Bazile is from SF/Oakland area. He didn't show up on my discogs search but perhaps he has recorded under pseudonyms. Anyone have more info? Scott
RE: (313) detroit soul
Check out the link for playlist. Looks good except don't think there's anything new here from the usual suspects. Would like to hear the others though. http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/8310.html Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) detroit soul found a tracklist here theres clips on piccadily's website, but no tracklist. http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/8310.html alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions - Ubiquity repress
Anyone have this record from 2000? Sound's enticing. http://www.ubiquityrecords.com/theo_parrish.html
RE: (313) food in tha D
You can't get Ethiopian in Detroit any longer, have to go to Windsor (via Tunnel Bus) to Marathon, but the price is right and the food is great. Noteworthy downtown spots include: Cafe D' Troit (on Library street) for good sandwiches, cheap Odawala bars, and free wireless internet; Detroit Beer Co. (on Broadway) for excellent micro-brews and nice eats for all tastes. Scott When in Detroit eat (if you can): Middle Eastern, Greek, Ethiopian (oh the ethiopian wine!), sould food and Coney Dogs and DRINK VERNORS!! d
RE: (313) heidelberg project
Oh No, It's still there. Bigger than ever. Check out the website: www.heidelberg.org Scott -Original Message- From: Philip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:37 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) heidelberg project Peeps - was the H project destroyed last year ? p
RE: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry)
I posted part of an interview w/ D May on Sat. It was in Motormouth monthly (a small independent rag here in Detroit) and done by Liz Copeland who is a much respected NPR DJ and journalist here. Anyway, I don't know if Derrick was trying to stir up controversy as he seems like to do, but he did say that KW wanted 6 figures. He also said he lost like $170k on last year's event, but is going forward again this year. Plans to have 50/50 Detroit vs non-Detroit artists. As much as I would love to see KW at the festival, and am kind of T-ed off at them for charging so much, I sooo wish I could get out of going to my Grandma's 90th for their show in Toronto on April 23rd. Tickets were still available yesterday. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:31 AM To: Nik; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stewart Caig Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry) someone posted it and it came from an interview Derrick May did, it was done @ two/three days ago -Original Message- From: Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 22/03/2004 10:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stewart Caig Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry) What are your sources? Not that I am dismissing this, but there is always so much bad blood stirred by miscommunication... N [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/03/2004 10:26:39 BTW you know the post about KW and the six figure fee required if they are gonna appear at Movement? Does anyone else feel slightly peed off by this? I feel that as its Movement they could at least drop the cost ...I am a little annoyed by this as it would make a truly memorable festival.. -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 22/03/2004 10:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry) Alex Feel exactly the same way you did after seeing the Saturday night! I couldnt stop rocking popping and locking despite the mass chin stroking! It was strange because it felt as if there was an amzing atmos in there, but it always seemed to be eminating from somewhere else, no matter where I positioned myself. Didn't matter though, I spent the whole night inside my own head, the music was just incredible. I couldnt stop thinking that these guys had been around since the 70s and they still put everything else to shame. Most pure, futuristic techno Ive ever heard. Do you think they get help from other producers to update all thier old stuff? Ive been told by a couple of people they do. Whatever though, Im still buzzing off it and I cant seem to get these 3 words out of my head The Man Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine Machine :) Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry) that they just couldn't dance?-) I was bouncing off every wall in there. body poppin, spinning on my head, leaping around. this lad can't stay still. the gig I just sort of woke up from a beautiful and very realistic dream. I'm still in that dream. I don't think I'll ever forget it as long as I live. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
RE: (313) Craftwork (Not a spoiler - don't worry)
I tend to agree--now is the time for Kraftwerk at Movement. I can't believe GM/Ford/Chrysler couldn't drop the cash for this. It would be the show of the century. The audience base for KW is massive--you can hear their stuff on every single radio station in Detroit sometime during the week. Scott I'm going to surmise that because Goldenvoice (Coachella festival promoters) probably paid them what they were asking, they probably figured Oh, Movement, another festival, we'll ask the same amount. - Greg
RE: (313) Kraftwerk - what you can do to bring them to Movement
The closest I could find from Wikipedia.org-- Kling Klang is Kraftwerk's studio in Dusseldorf, Germany. It is named after an early Kraftwerk song of the same name from Kraftwerk 2. The studio, or at least an office is located in Mintropstra?e 16, in the middle of Dusseldorf red light district. Outsiders are not welcome. Should we start a letter-writing campaign to Kraftwerk though, to get them to reconsider and try to work it out and make it possible? :) Everybody mail them a postcard from where you're from.. email never has the same effect. What's a street address to reach them? -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) Kraftwerk (Not a spoiler - don't worry)
Yeah, I think there must be some frustration going on for Derrick to be so open about the money problems in his interviews. I'm guessing sporsorship is a major issue. In Detroit there's always going to be this extra race factor thrown in when dealing with the major sponsors. While Derrick tries to pitch a multi-racial, world-class event, I'm sure the sponsor are like, you want us to give you money for some hip-hop/rnb (read black) music festival. Got to be alot of pressure. I'm not mad at him. But I understand Yussel's point that that expressing these frustrations in public (e.g. Coleman Young) doesn't help the festival or Detroit. Just give us what you got Derrick. It'll be great. Scott On one hand I agree that talking about fees can be tacky. But on the other hand, Derrick may have felt he needed to say exactly WHY Kraftwerk wouldn't be at Movement. Like someone else said, they've always been considered the ultimate booking for this festival and a lot of people are wondering why it hasn't happened yet. But you know someone will say that it's still Derrick's fault for not being able to get enough sponsorship dollars to pay for Kraftwerk. It seems like he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
RE: (313) axis
I know that Kenny (Dixon Jr.) and probably Jeff give away a bunch of records to other DJs, friends, promoters, etc. so that they are probably not making quite as big a profit as it might seem on these limited pressings. I don't see that as greed but just part of the game; for the people who can afford to support this game by purchasing these releases great; for the rest of us, we have to resort to hearing the music some other way. That's life. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:48 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) axis Well, Jeff can get paid upwards of £5000 for a two hour set - I think he's doing pretty well financially. And as for making money off a label, even the biggest majors don't just jack up the price by 50% per release to make a bigger profit (though of course they DO inflate prices - and we all bitch about it). I've absolutely nothing against the man making a living off of his art - more power to him, he definitely deserves it. But there's a difference between making a living and ripping off people whilst demanding their support. I'm not accusing him of selling out, I think that's a whole different kind of attitude - I just think the pricing of this series is very greedy... - Original Message - From: atomly To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) axis [Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At the moment, if I press up 800 copies of a release it costs about ?1200 (less in N.America), and on a standard price to distributors (which = about ?5.50 in the stores) it takes about 500 sales to break even. So to double that price and claim it's to cover costs is ridiculous. Whilst the figures for a small independant label are tight as hell, I seriously doubt raising the prices will help - distributors and stores would take an accordingly higher cut, and sales would probably drop a bit as people find their addictions harder and harder to sustain. But the man isn't trying to just break even. You're forgetting about packaging, press, etc. costs, overhead for the label (employees and such) and the fact that Jeff Mills actually wants to make a living off of this. If he sold them for cost, it wouldn't get him anywhere. That's one thing that always struck me as odd. I don't know how many times I've heard people grumble about labels or promoters making money off of music (not to say you were saying this or that Axis is charging any sort of a fair price, this is just a tangent)-- I know I even did as a punk teenager. After throwing shows and releasing records, I think it's absurd to ask people to put that much of their money at risk and to devote that much time and effort to something and only be able to barely break even, otherwise they're a sellout. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
RE: (313) 2003 Top 50
There have been a good many excellent strictly 313 LPs released this year. My favorites are the following, not in any particular order: 1. Detroit Experiment - Carl Craig et al (Planet e) 2. Amp Fiddler - Waltz of a Ghetto Fly (Genuine) 3. John Arnold - Neighborhood Science (Ubiquity) 4. Silence in the Secret Garden - Moodymann (Peacefrog) 5. Andres LP (Mahogani) Scott -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) 2003 Top 50 2003 has been an absolutely stunning year for new music (and reissues/re-edits/remixes for that matter). Obviously, a top 50 is overkill, but if I didn't do it this way, it would've been an albums versus singles thing, and both have seen tons of activity. Ultimately, you can never give good artists/releases too much recognition, and I would've felt like some of these folks had been slighted by their omission. Also, the sheer quantity of good material means that many of these have not seen as much platter time as they deserve, but I've never felt as on top of such a broad range of music before, and I think this chart represents some of that diversity. This is a sampling of the 300 or so records that came my way this year (and I know there are a few like the Andres stuff, the Dan Curtin on Downlow, the new Amp Fiddler, some Rob Hood and some brand new releases that I've missed, to name but a few). Notably, it's been easy enough to shop these days, that I have yet to sell a single record in 2003 and would only think about getting rid of a handful. Death of the music industry my ass! :) If anyone wants more info on any of these records, please feel free to ask questions. I'm more than happy to help. 1 . Outkast : The Love Below LP - Arista 2 . DJ Gregory : Elle - Faya Combo 3 . Stateless : Leave Me Now (Brooks Remix) - Freerange 4 . Amp Fiddler : Love And War - Genuine 5 . RSL : Wesley Music - Player 6 . Dimlite : A/DD EP - Sonar Kollectiv 7 . Moodymann : Silence In The Secret Garden LP - Peacefrog 8 . Spacek : Vintage Hi-Tech LP - !K7 9 . Meg : MGRMX - Joint Records 10 . Dudley Perkins (produced by Madlib) : A Lil Light LP - Stones Throw 11 . Pitch Black City featuring Roberta Sweed : Runaway - Mahogani Music 12 . DJ Cam feat Cameo : Love Junkee (Dilla Remix) - Inflamable 13 . Pal Joey : #17 - Loop D' Loop 14 . Infinity Plus One : Rhythmic Unison - Drenched 15 . Russ Gabriel : Into the Unknown LP - Out of the Loop 16 . Reunion : Strange Attention - Seiji Mixes - Dialog Recordings 17 . Freedom Soundz Feat. Vanessa Freeman : Feelings EP - Nepenta Promo 18 . Truby Trio : Universal Love (Âme Remix) - Compost 19 . Horror Inc. : Horrorama - Revolver 20 . Rima : This World LP - Jazzanova Compost Records 21 . N'Dambi : Call Me (Limited Re-Edit) - Yam Who 22 . 32 Project : The Root Of World - Ibadan 23 . Nikolai Dichev : Grasses (Ltd. 5) - Trapez 24 . I:Cube : 3 LP - Versatile 25 . Clyde Feat. Capitol A : Serve It Up! (Brooks remix) - Mantis 26 . Yotoko : All Creation Remix EP - Delsin Records 27 . John Arnold with Amp Fiddler : Get Yourself Together / I Can Be - Ubiquity 28 . Tread : Tread 3 LP - Third Ear 29 . Ennio Morricone : Remixes Volume 1 3x12 - Compost 30 . Jay Dee : The Official Instrumental Series - Unreleased Vol 1 LP - Bling 47 31 . Joshua : Hustlin' - Select Recordings 32 . Glad Today : Thoughts of You - M-Break Recordings 33 . Cesario Evora : Angola - Lusafrica 34 . Gotan Project : Santa Maria (Del Buen Ayre) - Ya Basta! 35 . V/A : Detroit Beatdown Remixes - Third Ear 36 . Kelley Polar Quartet : Recital EP - Environ 37 . Pepe Bradock Michelle Weeks : Distorted Echoes - KIF 38 . Headman : It Rough (Chicken Lips Trax Dub) - Gomma 39 . New World Aquarium : Heavy Metal EP - Peacefrog 40 . Rick Wade : Big Foot EP - Music Is 41 . Lucky Easy : Pimp Soul Blister EP - Ann Aimee 42 . John Tejada : The Toiling of Idle Hands LP - Immigrant 43 . Titonton : Explicit EP - Neroli 44 . The Detroit Experiment : The Detroit Experiment LP - Planet E 45 . Various Artists : Iridite Productions Present Electron Music - Iridite 46 . Rick Wade : I Can't Take It - Funky Chocolate 47 . Isolee : It s About - Freundinnen 48 . Russ Gabriel : Spirit Of Corea - Soul On Wax 49 . Fabrice Lig : Meet U In Brooklyn - Playhouse 50 . Kemit Sources : An Ka Sein - Isma'a Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Tomorrow in the D
Saturday 13th December 2003 Joe Claussell w/Amp Fiddler - An Ensemble Performance Performances: Mike Huckaby - Michael Geiger - Craig Gonzales Info: 313-438-3418 Venue: Tangent Gallery/Hastings Street Ballroom - 715 E. Milwaukee Tickets: 20 at the door - rsvp to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for reduced guest list Time: 10pm - 5am Join us for a match made in heaven - Spiritual Life Music/Body and Soul DJ/Producer Joaquin Joe Claussell - with Local Detroit Hero Joseph Amp Fiddler Onstage together for a rare joint performance! w/Organic Residents Michael Geiger Mike Huckaby and guest Craig Gonzales 18+ - 21+ for complimentary beverages
RE: (313) Work posts and blank
Michael, Your answers remind me of the Gil Scott-Heron poem used on Moodymann's Amerika record--Bicentennial Blues. That line kills me when he says: The blues grew up, but America did not. How true Cornell West has also discussed the connection between African vocal traditions, slavery, blues, jazz, soul, He did an interview on Tavis Smiley's show a few months back where CW said something like: The blues has hope, not the pollyannic hope of pop music, but a mature hope, a blood soaked, tear stained hope. Well, I don't think I could explain any better what I appreciate about Detroit techno/house than that. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:38 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Work posts and blank here's a great passage from Deep Blues by Robert Palmer that I think can be applied to Detroit techno house Here he is addressing blue notes This is the expressive core of the hollers, work songs, spirituals that have not been substantially influenced by white church music, and later the blues, especially Delta blues. You can hear it, or suggestions of it, in African vocal music from Senegambia to the Congo, and it has special significance among the Akan-speaking people of Ghana, who suffered the depredations of English and American slavers through most of the period of the slave trade. Akan is a pitch-tone language in which rising emotion is expressed by falling pitch, and in Akan song rising emotion is often expressed by flattening the third. There seems to be a direct continuity between this tendency and blues singing, for blues singers habitually use falling pitches to raise the emotional temperature of a performance. Usually these falling pitches are thirds, but Muddy Waters and other vocalists and guitarists from the Delta tradition also employ falling fifths, often with shattering emotional effect. It's not a great leap to follow the tradition - MEK
RE: (313) felix disrespecting nina simone was re: Alton Miller
Sorry to be a purveyor of bad taste ;) Maybe Felix sould've left Nina alone I can accept that. However, as to a separate point, I personally like allot of what Felix has been doing over the last couple of years. I think he has managed to make house music allot more accessible for many people who grew up during the 80s and parted ways with dance music when synch-pop and new wave faded. Although Felix has sort of shamelessly exploited the whole glitz s**t, I don't believe he's all about that either. Some of the mixes and sets during the last few years really reached deep into the dark internal realm that much of the best techno also mines, meanwhile crossing genres and generations. On a different subject, I would really like to hear that King Britt track. Which song does he remix? What label is it on? Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: FC2 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:08 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: (313) felix disrespecting nina simone was re: Alton Miller I second andrew dukes praise of King Britt's Miles Davis remix. I heard it on the radio late night here in San Diego. That would be the only time I have heard it, and it was probably the only time it has ever been played on the radio here on the un-creative capital of the radio. I don't think that Felix Da Housecat has been all that great here in the last couple of years. I havn't ever heard anything off the Clashbakk label that I thought was all that great in the last few year. Best release on Clashbakk: LA Williams-Jedi Knight...Where the hell has LA gone to? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) felix disrespecting nina simone was re: Alton Miller Anyone heard the remix king britt did of a miles davis track a couple of years back? Now, *that* was an excellent and respectful reinterpretation. It was not a bootleg, definitely label-sanctioned. It was from a compilation if memory serves, similar in concept to what verve is doing, but much better. my cdn .02. andrew duke
RE: (313) Need PF recommendation
IMHO both the Norma Jean Bell is an essential, all-time classic. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:20 PM To: The Music Institute Subject: (313) Need PF recommendation I'm taking advantage of the peacefrog.com 3 for 2 CD deal, and wanted advice on which of the following you folks would consider most essential (mind you--I have most of the PF releases not listed here): Anthony Nicholson - Dance Anthology Volume 2 (PF089CD) Charles Webster - Born On The 24th Of July (PF097CD) Chris Brann - Deep Fall (PF071CD) David Alvarado - Mayasongs (PFG010CD) Furry Phreaks - Want Me (Like Water) (PFG006CD) Neil Landstrumm - Brown By August (PF040CD) Norma Jean Bell - Come Into My Room (PFG15CD) Paul Johnson - Bump Talkin (PF041CD) Paul Johnson - Feel The Music (PF056CD) Planetary Assault Systems - Atomic Funkster (PFG008CD) Stasis - Inspiration (PF028CD) Stasis - From the old to the new (PF046CD) Underground Evolution - Primordial Passage (PF090CD) Various Artists - Deletions Vol. 1 (PFEC01) Wamdue Kids - These Branching Moments (PF059CD) Thanks, and keep those best of 2003 lists comin'! -- im
RE: (313) Alton Miller on Peacefrog
I assume you mean 'Choose to Believe'? Excellent song. I totally missed it on the first (and even second) listen. The vocals really capture the essence of Detroit/urban-style poetry--deep and reflective with rhythmic phrasing. And what devastating words: Even when she protects his good name Even while she brings him back to his life-time And love was all that she had To give It still wasn't ever enough Now That's the last act For me the music does a very nice job of accompanying and highlighting the vocals--without going too far off into AM's more noodly brand of keyboard driven smooth jazz. I find that I enjoy his music the most when he keeps things more minimal and understated--witness 'Shine on Me.' Scott -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Alton Miller on Peacefrog -- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that I have it, I would gladly buy it again, and may do so for the vinyl. It's something that's very hard to get a feel for while in the store, or through online clips. It takes a relaxed atmosphere and time in order to really appreciate it - as you would expect with an album in the truest sense. i got the promo CD of this album back in like july. after listening to it over and over, i was quite happy to pay for it when it dropped on vinyl. it is definitely very nice, though i wouldnt call it essential. his new one on mahogani is essential though. i just cant say enough good things about that tune. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Alton Miller on Peacefrog
As for Stories... I didn't pick it up but have given it a few listens and couldn't really justifying getting it based on the few songs I really liked. Subsequently I found a copy of the single and remixes of Shine on Me on KDJ. I like the keys on that track alot and Moodymann does nice work with it as well--the mixes are actually quite different than the version on Silence Anyway, that acquisition satisfied my interest in Stories... for the moment, but maybe I'll change my mind. It certainly has some very nice moments. Has anyone else gotten a copy of the record simply titled Brothers on Kif? I would put it in the vein of Osunlade. I'm really enjoying this record right now. Scott Ellis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:04 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Alton Miller on Peacefrog Anyone pick up that LP - Stories from Bohemia ? what's the word? MEK
(313) OT - RE: (313) Religion
In the liner notes of two recent LPs by Rob Hood and Suburban Knight they both wax (no pun intended) very religious--I would say evangelical in fact. For some reason this really surprised me because I always thought about Detroit techno as kind of atheistic (death of god) type music. Anyway, it doesn't really bother me that these artists were inspired by God or some higher power. It gives me a different appreciation of their art. I agree that the Lutheran church is pretty non-threatening for the most part. They tend to lean toward the liturgical side (keeping the sacraments of the Catholic church) as compared to Baptists (who came out of the counter-reformation) who are suspicious of ritual. The Lutheran church like other major denominations is split into a million factions--liberal, moderate, and conservative. Musically my experience with the Lutheran church is that it tends to be quite extraordinary, though leaning toward the classical side of things. They will often have several choirs and a small orchestra--often with professionally trained musicians. As a generalization I would say that the Lutheran church tends to stress the more classical aesthetic aspects of worship, than the Baptists or example. However, the Baptists would likely respond that they leave more room for freer, more participatory expression, like gospel. Of course there are a million different kinds of Baptists too. As for Detroit, I'm only a transplant here so I can't say what it was like 20 years ago, but it seems that there are alot of Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian (ie, liturgical) churches around. Many have lost much of their membership due to white flight but many African Americans choose to worship at these churches. In fact there are very large numbers of African American Catholics in Detroit (and Chicago). In fact our former mayor (Dennis Archer) is Catholic. While all of these churches have no doubt been influenced by gospel many still maintain the more grandiose classical music tradition. So for example, it wouldn't be unusual at all if Carl Craig grew up in one of these more liturgical/classically oriented churches. Scott -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:47 PM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Religion - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon.. Since I am on off topics but on topic, I read Carl Craig is a Lutheran, he was talking about not having been exposed to gospel when younger. Is there a Black Lutheran church? I looked at 'Detroit Lutheran Church' on the Web and couldn't find much. Or is it a mixed congregation in the Detroit Lutheran Church (es)? Does anyone know much about the US Lutheran church at all? I had assumed it's small in the US and confined to people of Scandinavian, Teutonic or Slavic origin. I would expect it to be bigger somewhere like Minneapolis. I know one of the Geto Boys was Lutheran and that would be the South. I've always been fascinated by the cultural role of the Church in the US, and the rise of the Black church, so if anyone can shed light I'd be interested. I think this is really topical actually, especially when you look at TP's transformation. The Lutheran church in the states is not very racialized, like the Baptist church, for instance - but the Lutheran church is quite large and generally has an appeal for those who might question other aspects of society, while looking for a metaphysical solution with a group behind it. It's one of the most inclusive sects that I've dealt with. For instance, I was never Lutheran, but I sang in a Lutheran choir when I was a kid - went to church with Lutherans, etc. From the outside, I think it's looked at as quite an innocuous religious choice, in my experience anyway. There are tons of examples of the influence on techno and house, and I totally agree that it is fascinating, and a very interesting issue for discussion. It typically gets lumped into agree/disagree mode, which I think is quite small minded. I'm not religious in any way, but I love the effect that passionate involvement in religion has on music for everyone. As a listener, I don't really care what someone is passionate about, as long as it transfers into their expression. Obviously, I still invoke my own political views, but religion can be deeply personal, and I think it serves some people very well - just as it harms others. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
