RE: (313) roll call?

2012-11-30 Thread Steward, Tim
Still here in the underworld of Detroit




From: roowl...@gmail.com [mailto:roowl...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roland Meijer 
Drees
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 3:09 AM
To: maxphi...@gmail.com
Cc: mar...@nomorewords.net; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) roll call?

Still here, checking in from work in Utrecht. Not sure since how long I'm 
subscribed (10, 12 years?) but still like to check the 313 mails on a weekly 
basis!

On 28 November 2012 12:57, maxphi...@gmail.commailto:maxphi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

Anyone else?

m50


At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
how many subscribers are left anyway?

and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good to be 
back!




RE: (313) Twitter to open small office in Detroit

2012-07-18 Thread Steward, Tim
Twitter did indeed open an office, there are two twitterees working there.

The Madison is also the entrepreneur hotspot in Detroit they have lots
of networking events there.



Tim

From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:13 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Twitter to open small office in Detroit

Very cool. I didn't know about this. They are certainly right about Detroit.

Denise
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Odeluga, Ken 
ken.odel...@dowjones.commailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
I'm probably late on this - but
I hope it's still interesting to some.

The news seems to represent a broader trend too, apparently.

Ken


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RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)

2010-06-07 Thread Steward, Tim
The CD does play I popped it in the deck to see if it 
Actually played, but I have not had time to really 
Check it out yet.

tim 


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From: irid...@gmail.com [mailto:irid...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
ja...@iridite.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:13 AM
To: 313 list
Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)

Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything
like it.

It's a CD.  But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk.  With music
on it.  That you play on a normal record player.  So that's two formats
for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before?

Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright!

I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the
album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an
illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet!

cheers

Jason




RE: (313) Releasing new vinyl -- advice wanted

2010-04-19 Thread Steward, Tim

 For timing Ron would always suggest a maximum of 17min per side
 your correct this allows the bass to be increased to the proper levels.
 
 Most people try to make long tracks 6, 7 minutes. I recall Ron telling
me
 that he wished the artist would make 3-4 minute tracks.


 Tim 


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From: david smith [mailto:bassline...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:25 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Releasing new vinyl -- advice wanted

With the way the USD is it might be cheaper to manufacture the records
in Detroit and import them to Europe.

I worked with Ron one time and these are the only notes I kept:
 Just remember to keep your bass centered and not panning from channel
to channel, it can disrupt the needle.  In general the shorter the track
the louder it can be pressed and 45 rpm is a higher resolution than 33.

Acetate will last as long as vinyl so long as keep
hand-oil/contamination free from the surface.



On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:34 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com
wrote:
 I'm right here - not on the list as much as I'd like but happy to help

 if I can

 Jason

 On 13 April 2010 18:27, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Maybe you should track down Jason Brunton at Iridite. I'm not sure if

 he still reads the list.

 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:24, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Yeah, I'm in touch with him, my real point is I want to especially 
 hear the overseas perspective, and also from more than one person's 
 experience, as that may not be enough to generalize into a general 
 strategy.

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 http://hydrogenproject.com
 capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ;

 y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! 
 http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com






(313) event - Destruktion@ the works Sat Mar 28

2009-03-26 Thread Steward, Tim
Destruktion  Saturday 3/28/2009

Room2 
   Sassmouth HEJ records - London
   Tim Vandyke   Planet Detroit 
   Cignal to Noise (Live) Planet Detroit
   C-Rah aka Raskalz
Room1 
   Casey Phear  Planet Detroit Jungle Division
   Twizzler Dis3cted-Detroit
   Jesse James  Nightsneak Detroit
   Darkcube Detroit Techno Militia

 
The Works
1846 Michigan Ave.
Detroit, MI

$5 before 2am  $10 after 
Ages 18+
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RE: (313) 4 more Movement acts

2008-04-21 Thread Steward, Tim
Out of those acts Punisher is definitely
The good one. Her dj skills are tight.

Tim / Planet Detroit 


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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:56 AM
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts

well, if I had to pick one out of them all I'd go with Punisher I've
come around to some of her tunes (when I'm in the mood for harder
stuff)
granted I haven't witnessed her DJ

MEK

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/21/2008
10:30:11
AM:

 On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:27 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
   Mark Farina
   Lawnchair Generals
   Miles Maeda
   Punisher
 
   good god - for every one good act they add three crap ones

 which is the good one?? inquiring minds want to know.

 tom


RE: (313) Bloc

2008-03-24 Thread Steward, Tim
I'm a bit late on this but in the defense of Juan
I thought I would chime in
Juan shows up for shows when he is booked properly.
(I have not had any no-show issues)
There are several booking agents out there booking him
And tons of promoters who like to drop names on flyers
To make a profit.
 
And no offense to anyone but Ferndale / Madison Heights etc..
That is not Detroit that's the burbs

 Tim / Planet Detroit



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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:04 PM
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Bloc

I don't know the origin of some of Juan's no shows.  I do know that he
was having some major health problems, and looked unhealthily skinny a
few years back when I saw him walking around at the festival...

One thing about him, that Terrence Parker said to me a few years back
when I asked about Juan.  Terrence said that it's one thing to make a
few records and show up to DJ at parties and have a few people know who
you are.  It's quite another to be in the position of being a founding
artist in a whole new genre, whose early work attained mythic status in
the scene.  He thought Juan felt that pressure keenly.

There's the man Juan who is showing up to play a show, and there's this
giant mythical beast following him around like a shadow.  Some people --
i.e. Derrick -- can surf the wave of their reputation and enjoy the
ride.  Others like Kevin Saunderson, are grounded in family and church,
and let the crazy stuff slide.  Juan is in a third category. Don't know
those guys, can't speak for them, just my impressions from the outside.

It is extremely good news to me that he appears to be in better health
and has been turning up regularly for his shows.

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:21 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  yeah right, like Juan
   Atkins is going to show up, only to turn around and see him 
 walking   directly behind me. Nice.

  look who is being uninvited from Juan's next birthday party
  ;-)

  MEK




(313) DEMF Afterparty - Saturday

2007-05-24 Thread Steward, Tim
 
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES
Saturday May 26th 10pm-10am
Fi-Nite Gallery  1420 Plum st/brooklyn lofts 
Detroit 18+  $10.00  
infoline: 313.971.7340
3 floors
Kikoman, Shawn Rudiman, Mike Dearborn, Archetype, Avex Axiom, Tim Baker,

Rob Rage, The Ghoulies, Red Pill:Blue Pill, Cignal to Noise, Dennis Cox,

Blue Legoon, Aaron Carl, Tek.User, Jesse James, DJ Woody, Module 8, 
Hakim Murphy, Hammer Brothers, TS-1, Jwon Allen, Sonic Disturbance, 
Zeroxxx  Raskalz, Bumble Bee, The Disciple, Gweedo Sarduchi, Borja, 
INDYSC4, Secret Electro, Joe Cool.





























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RE: (313) odd that I should have to ask this...

2007-04-20 Thread Steward, Tim
The milner is not as bad as the leland
Your correct the leland is the ex-ramada inn
But it was not a true ramada, they got busted
And had to change the name. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:25 AM
To: Fred Heutte
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) odd that I should have to ask this...







Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/20/2007 05:50:25 AM:

 I actually looked at
 reviews of the Milner and Leland (ex-Ramada) but even if I was 
 desperate I wouldn't stay there.

Isn't the Leland the place that used to be calling itself a Ramada but
wasn't really a Ramada?
I recall reading some hairy situations from customers who booked
themselves in and when they saw the hotel and the rooms they checked
themselves right back out.
Some things like room doors that don't lock, unidentified dark stains on
carpet and walls, holes in walls, junkies in the hallways and lobby
hitting people up for money, screaming in the middle of the night, etc.

here's one quote from TripAdvisor.com

My stay at the Leland Hotel was the most fun I've ever had. First off
this is not a good hotel for families with small children because they
might need phsycological help when they get home and also not a good
choice for fans of teams other than Detroit to stay either, because
you'll probablly get mugged or killed. If you want a taste of the real
Detroit stay here and you won't be disappointed. Out of the 6 elevators
1 works and it has a smell that is unlike any other I've smelt before.
There is also a goth night club right down in the lobby that blasts
music all night on the weekends. Even if you are curious DO NOT go into
the club because there is a chance you will run into the devil himself.
In the hotel there are people who rent out rooms and live there year
round, we met a guy there named Dre and he showed us where the liquer
store was and fended off homeless people for 20 bucks and a pack of
cigarettes. Make sure you bring cash and treat a couple brotha's to a
40oz. and some vodka.
The rooms are okay but the couch was soiled, the window was broken, the
smoke detector was ripped off the wall and the T.V. was broken. A great
hotel in the greatest city in the world!

DETROIT! REPRESENT


LOL

come to think of it - I think that's where the All Access party was at

Here's another one

This is the most disgusting place I ever stayed, and I am far from a
soccer mom (see previos post). This place is absolutely disgusting. I
lived on the streets of the Bronx, homeless for 3 years before putting
myself together and I can say, honestly, that this is the worst place I
ever stayed at in my life. The manager even offered me a complimentary
night, and I still left a day early. You need to be buzzed into the
elevators (FROM THE LOBBY!!!) to keep out homeless people. There were
bloodstains on the ironing board, the carpets were wet and moldy, the
bathrooms had pubic hair everywhere, along with wet, dirty towels. When
I informed the manager (this is just the tip of the iceberg-email me for
ictures I took in case I ended up in court to get my money back AND so I
can warn people without a libel suit) she told me good help is hard to
find yet 2 blocks away is a Holiday Inn and MGM Grand that my fellow
travellers loved. SHe then put me in the suite which was just as bad.

Steer clear of this place.

quite an endorsement

MEK

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RE: (313) rooms

2007-04-20 Thread Steward, Tim
 

Here is another option for hotel rooms
It's not as close but you can walk or cab it
From here, they did some remodeling and its better
Than the leland and milner.

Tim / Planet Detroit

Days Inn Detroit Downtown
3250 E. Jefferson Ave.
E. Jefferson  Woodward Ave.
Detroit, MI, 48207  
 
Phone: 313-568-2000 
Fax: 313-568-0624



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RE: (313) odd that I should have to ask this...

2007-04-19 Thread Steward, Tim
Also you have:
Hilton Garden Inn
351 Gratiot Avenue
Detroit, MI 48226
(313) 967-0900

Holiday Inn express
 1020 Washington Blvd
Detroit, MI 48226
(313) 965-4307

Both nice and walking distance, better than the shorecrest and cheaper
Than the rencen marriott


Tim / www.planetdetroit.net


-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:29 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) odd that I should have to ask this...

On 4/19/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Shorecrest! Though they may be sold out by now.  It's definitely 
 downmarket from the RenCen, but the rooms are clean, the staff are 
 wonderful, and the Clique will fill you up proper for a long day on 
 your feet.

amen.

tom

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(313) Club Nght featuring Blake Baxter K-Hand

2007-03-15 Thread Steward, Tim
 Club Night  featuring 
Blake Baxter  -  K-HAND

Blake Baxter (Save The Vinyl), (Mix Inc.), (The Sound Republic) , Blake
has done work on 
(UR) , (Tresor)
Recent projects What Happen EP 12 inch with Abe Duque and also in 
Germany (In the Club) on systematic records with Marc Romboy 
In jan it was number 3 on the German club dance charts
his deejay style is  Classic house , Acid and tech house

K-HAND: Acacia Records, Detroit

visit me @ myspace
myspace.com/khanddetroit
plus, K-Hand mix cd's will be available for sale

accompanying them will be Planet Detroit Residents
TS-1  
Cignal to Noise  
Hammer Brothers - playing live tracks off their first release on
planet detroit records
Casey Phear  with a special late night jungle set
 
 Fi-nite Gallery March 17th$5 before 12midnight $10 after
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RE: (313) Jeff Mills - One Man Spaceship

2007-02-05 Thread Steward, Tim
You can pick up the CD from the axis website
They have been offering it since early January.

The CD concept and compilation of tracks is pretty
Awesome, hopefully I can catch it performed live
This summer.

Tim








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-Original Message-
From: simon dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:08 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills - One Man Spaceship

Amazon.co.uk are quoting this cd as being released on 12th February for £15.99, 
so maybe it's getting a wider release everywhere.

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RE: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Steward, Tim
I would say there are a few nice stories about Compuware.
But the word for the festival is Better sound they are
Having 4 stages maybe eliminating the underground stage
And the sound being designed by funktion one of the UK.

Tim 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:33 PM
To: Matt Kane's Brain
Cc: Joel Gajewski; robin; Aidan O'Doherty; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

Can't comment personally on Compuware. I'm sure there is a level of
dissatisfaction with all places and certainly I wouldn't absolve General
Motors either. Big business is big business, but a part of what's needed
for Detroit to come back too, right? I don't want to launch into
politics or anything like that nor am I naive about it either. Just
hoping for a thriving Detroit rather than a dead one ;). Guess I'm
encouraged that people want the same thing.


 -- Original message --
From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Compuware
 
 Oy, I wouldn't be so happy about that. Several of my coworkers escaped

 form there with some nice stories :)
 
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 http://hydrogenproject.com
 aim - mkbatwerk
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RE: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Steward, Tim
A press release is scheduled for Feb 15
 

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:52 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

On 2/2/07, Steward, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would say there are a few nice stories about Compuware.
 But the word for the festival is Better sound they are Having 4 stages

 maybe eliminating the underground stage And the sound being designed 
 by funktion one of the UK.

good sound is nice. how much is admission going to be though? that
sucks. i liked the free aspect of it best!

tom

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(313) Event Updates

2006-09-25 Thread Steward, Tim
 
 Planet Detroit continues The Impact Series
This Friday Sept 29th, 2006

With Rob Hood presenting The Grey Area

The Grey Area showcases the internationally renowned,
Unique style of Robert Hood's own productions remixes
And his labels catalogue from M-Plant, Duet, Drama and Hardwax.
Giving you the minimal originators own true Detroit experience,
Spanning rhythmic House  Techno


Also on the lineup will be Planet Detroit Residents
   Cignal to Noise   (live)
TS-1 (dj  )
   Hammer Brothers   (live)

Fri 10pm-Late   $10 door $5adv recordtime-ferndale
Fi-Nite Gallery
2233 Brooklyn @Plum street  Detroit MI

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(313) DEMF afterparty I

2006-05-19 Thread Steward, Tim
   IMPACT  sponsored by Planet Detroit
 Saturday May 27, 2006

Visuals

 VJ Jon Hudson - Technovision Detroit

House/DnB Room
  
 Hakim Murphy - Random Access Recording / Planet Detroit
 Darkcube   - Detroit Techno Militia
 Bumblebee  - Planet Detroit / Chicago
 Twizzler   - Planet Detroit
 D'Classified  
 The Sensor -Vanpower Records Detroit

Techno Room

 Alan Oldham aka DJ T-1000 - www.alanoldham.com
 Tim Baker   - Real Estate Records / www.elephanthaus.com
 Henry Chow  - www.henrychow.com
 Arthur Oskan- Cratesavers Muzik  (live)
 Adam Winick - Format Recordings / Toronto(live)
 Cignal to Noise - Planet Detroit (live)
 TS-1- Planet Detroit
 Hammer Brothers - Planet Detroit (live)

Labyrinth  1701 Cass Ave
10pm - 6am   all ages
Pre-sales $5.00 $10 door www.groovetickets.com
www.planetdetroit.net
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(313) DEMF After Party

2006-05-09 Thread Steward, Tim
   IMPACT  sponsored by Planet Detroit
 Saturday May 27, 2006
House/DnB Room
  
 Hakim Murphy - Random Access Recording / Planet Detroit
 Darkcube - Detroit Techno Militia
 Bumblebee - Planet Detroit

Techno Room

 Alan Oldham aka DJ T-1000 - www.alanoldham.com
 Tim Baker   - Real Estate Records
 Henry Chow  - www.henrychow.com
 Arthur Oskan- Cratesavers Muzik  (live)
 Adam Winick - Format Recordings / Toronto(live)
 Cignal to Noise - Planet Detroit (live)
 TS-1- Planet Detroit
 Hammer Brothers - Planet Detroit (live)

Labyrinth  1701 Cass Ave
10pm - 6am
Pre-sales $5.00 www.groovetickets.com
www.planetdetroit.net
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RE: (313) Detroit Events

2006-04-11 Thread Steward, Tim
Planet Detroit continues with the Impact Series, reflecting
on the history of the Detroit Techno and the Impact it has
had on our lives, We launched the series with Juan Atkins the
Godfather of Techno and James Pennington a.k.a Suburban Knight. 
Part 2 of the series brings the legendary
SCAN 7 to the stage joined by dj Surgeon a label mate of Scan 7's
on Cratesavers Muzik. Also on the bill will be house sounds by John Collins
of UR along with residents of Planet Detroit - dj TS1 and the Hammer
Brothers.
 
http://www.planetdetroit.net/impact2/impact_purpleb.gif
 
Stay Tuned For Impact part 3 on May 27th
 
 
Thanks 
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RE: (313) Detroit Events Saturday April 15

2006-04-11 Thread Steward, Tim
   *** IMPACT *** part 2
  
DJ Surgeon   - Cratesavers Muzik   1:00  
SCAN 7   - Cratesavers Muzik  12:00 
DJ John Collins  - UR 10:45
Hammer Brothers  - PlanetDetroit  10:00
DJ TS-1  - PlanetDetroit   9:30




Labyrinth- 1701 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saturday April 15, 2006
$7 door
930pm
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-Original Message-
From: Steward, Tim 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:50 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Events

Planet Detroit continues with the Impact Series, reflecting on the history
of the Detroit Techno and the Impact it has had on our lives, We launched
the series with Juan Atkins the Godfather of Techno and James Pennington
a.k.a Suburban Knight. 
Part 2 of the series brings the legendary SCAN 7 to the stage joined by dj
Surgeon a label mate of Scan 7's on Cratesavers Muzik. Also on the bill will
be house sounds by John Collins of UR along with residents of Planet Detroit
- dj TS1 and the Hammer Brothers.
 
http://www.planetdetroit.net/impact2/impact_purpleb.gif
 
Stay Tuned For Impact part 3 on May 27th
 
 
Thanks
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(313) Planet Detroit Upcoming Events

2006-03-17 Thread Steward, Tim
 ImPacT Series Part 1
Saturday March 18th - 
Labyrinth 1701 Cass,  Detroit

Juan Atkins - Metroplex
James Pennington - UR
  PlanetDetroit Residents
-  TS-1
-  Hammer Brothers Live

$5adv $10 door
10pm-late

***
 ImPacT Series Part 2
Saturday April 15th - 
Labyrinth 1701 Cass,  Detroit

SCAN 7
DJ Surgeon
  - more to come

$7 door
10pm-late


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The lineup for Part 3 will be coming soon
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RE: (313) Planet Detroit Upcoming Events

2006-03-17 Thread Steward, Tim
This is the surgeon from Detroit.
 

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To: Steward, Tim
Cc: '313'
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On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:52, Steward, Tim wrote:
 DJ Surgeon

is the the british surgeon or the one from detroit?

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http://hydrogenproject.com
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RE: (313) Planet Detroit Upcoming Events

2006-03-17 Thread Steward, Tim
For info on DJ Surgeon check out http://www.cratesavers.com/ 

-Original Message-
From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:55 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; Matt Kane's Brain; Steward, Tim
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Planet Detroit Upcoming Events

I'll bet it's the US Surgeon. Tony Child (the UK guy) is simply 
referred to as 'Surgeon' rather than 'DJ Surgeon'. I could be wrong...


^www.dj-surgeon.com

i heard that the us surgeon is called the surgeon rather than dj surgeon
but - ive never been there so...

maybe it's none of them? ;)



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RE: (313) Impact -Detroit part 1

2006-03-01 Thread Steward, Tim
 *** * Impact * ***
Saturday March 18th
Juan Atkins - Metroplex
James Pennington - UR
 
PlanetDetroit Residents
TS-1   /   Hammer Brothers Live
  
Saturday March 18th
10pm - late
Labyrinth-Detroit
1701 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
$5adv at recordtime Ferndale
$10 door   18+
For info contact 
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RE: (313) (OT) Melb Record Store Help

2006-01-03 Thread Steward, Tim
Seth is one of the hot upcoming dj's in Detroit
He also does work with Beretta Music.

-Tim 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) (OT) Melb Record Store Help

I'm not too familiar with Seth Troxler's music yet but this is a nice mix he
did for Brian Kage's show
http://66.221.205.118/kage/djsets/detroitsessions_episode4.mp3

I guess he met Omar through working at Melodies and memories in Detroit.


Quoting Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 1/3/06, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Huh. I passed on it. From the clip it didn't seem much different 
  than Gusto's Disco's Revenge or something - not that I don't like 
  that
 track,
  it just didn't strike me as special. Does it do something nutty later
on?
 
 its just kind of a nutty track altogether. i thought the sample on 
 emporium50 sounded decent, but i just always order omar's tunes so i 
 got it and gave it the first listen all the way through last night, 
 and its just bonkers. its so simple and hypnotic and nasty. its a 
 serious banger.
 
  I finally just got the FXHE Compilation #1 myself. That Jus-Ed tack 
  is
 the
  freekin' chn. The whole thing is tight though. LATE, I know.
 
 yeah i need to get a copy of that dood's new 12 as well. i liked the 
 young seth tune on there best though, very understated.
 
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RE: (313) Fw: Carl Craig returns - win his new mix CD!

2005-12-09 Thread Steward, Tim
The E is for Earth hope someone can win the CD 

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the simple reason that he works so damn well with the SC vibe! If you
haven't heard this guys music before this will be unmissable, if you have
we'll see you there...
Expect the finest in Electronic music - no musical boundaries, prejudices or
preconceptions - in the true spirit of the Detroit style...

CARL CRAIG (Planet E - Detroit)
ANDREA PARKER (Touchin'Bass/K7! - UK)
Dan Moore, Alex Bowen  Daz Quayle (SC)

Venue: Mission, Heaton's Court, Leeds 1.
Doors: 22:00-05:00
Entry: £10 Members/before 11 £12 Otherwise


***WIN CARL'S NEW MIX CD FOR FABRIC***
We have 5 copies of Carl Craig's new mix CD to give away to our members.
Just answer the following question:

Carl's record label is called Planet E recordings - what does the E stand
for?  A: Earth  B: Egg  C: Ecstasy

Entries to be in by next Wednesday - winners will be picked at random, best
of luck!





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Our New year's Eve party this year sees the UK's finest joining us at Arch
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Both of our guests have played at SC before and both are back for the
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Kirk and Ian are responsible for putting the soul and funk back into UK
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In the intimate surroundings of Arch 54 we will be hosting a NYE party with
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Disco Annie | Echo Chamber DJ Set | Mash n' Gurn | Mark Hepworth

Venue: Arch 54, Heaton's Court, Leeds 1 (Next to Mission) Doors from 8pm...
Entry: £8 before 9pm /£10 after

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RE: (313) my morning mischief

2005-12-07 Thread Steward, Tim
So true, why don't people dance at gigs in Detroit
A couple months ago I was at a gig in detroit and
I was dancing to the music and people looked at me
Like I didn't belong there, when I feel the music I dance.
Maybe because I'm an oldhead. 

-Original Message-
From: skkatter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:15 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) my morning mischief

Yeah, I always thought dance music was for dancing to! :)

A friend of mine who DJed a few times in the states but is based in the UK
told me how when he played a few places in the states nobody would dance.
They all liked the music, clapped at the end or whatever, but kept perfectly
still despite the dance music he was playing.

With techno/electro/house I usually think it's the DJs job to get people to
dance.

I suppose if it's weird chin strokey musique concrete or whatever then it's
more acceptable to stand around and have a bit of a shoe gaze (I always try
to have a dance anyway, if I like what's being played).

Must be a states thing, check out Cylob's rave photo page, he also talks
about how nobody in the US dances at gig:
http://www.cylob.com/rave_photos/ravephotos.html

-skkatter

On 07/12/05, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A party with a bunch of anoraks standing around is a party with no vibe.

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RE: (313) Turn the volume down....

2005-11-19 Thread Steward, Tim
I agree with you, I made the investment about 1 year ago
And now I would not be caught at a club without them.
And they were only around $150 bucks US


Tim 

-Original Message-
From: Dennis DeSantis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:03 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Turn the volume down

They're a bit pricey, but a good pair of custom earplugs with a flat
frequency response is probably the best gear investment you can make if
you spend a lot of time around amplified music.
I bought a pair when I was a gigging drummer and use them now for electronic
shows.  I wouldn't dream of going to a club without them.

--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com


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darnistle wrote:
 I can definitely see the dangers in excessive volume at clubs.  I've 
 been to shows where my hearing has been considerably comprimised for 
 several days afterwards.  On the other hand, some of the best shows I've 
 been to have been almost excuciatingly loud and I would not have had 
 them any other way.  The last Koxbox show I saw definitely falls into 
 that category.
 
 If anything, I think clubs should do a better job of tailoring the EQ to 
 fit the space.  Too many times I've been to shows where all I could hear 
 is thudding bass and weak high hats and couldn't really make out any of 
 the midrange.  Or at  other places its been all midrange without enough 
 bass or treble to give any sense of power or vitality.
 
 With better sound equalization, there shouldn't be the need to 
 overcompensate by cranking the bass.  Plus,  I think the sense of 
 immersion in the music comes across more readily when the sound is 
 balanced.
 
 That said, I expect the volume to be CRANKED when I got out!!  I don't 
 want to be able to easily hear the conversations of the people around 
 me.  If they want to chat without having to raise their voices, they 
 should hang near the bar/lounge, go to the local greasy spoon or maybe 
 stay at home.
 
 
 Blaauw, Martijn de wrote:
 
 UK CLUBS TO TURN IT DOWN
 It's not everyday that DJs are told to turn the music down, especially
 not by politicians
 but now 365Mag can reveal that has just happened. The UK government is
 set to
 reduce the level of noise in British clubs by up to 5% from April 2006
 with a law that is intended
 to protect the hearing of those in the music industry.
 When the new levels are passed by parliament in the Spring, employers in
 clubs and
 venues will be expected to protect their staffs hearing with a reduction
 in volume and
 a decrease in time spent exposed to excessive noise. Lawrence Waterman,
 President of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH)
 says:
 We need to help employs who work in the music industry to understand
 the risks of noise exposure.
 According to UK Heath and Safety statistics, around 170,000 people
 suffer from work related tinnitus,
 deafness or other ear-related problems.
 DJs who suffer from damaged hearing are Rocky from X-press 2 fame,
 Laurent Garnier and Tall Paul,
 who consulted a specialist in the late 90s, only to be told he had done
 irreparable damage to his hearing.
 This law raises the question of the use of ear filters once again. DJs
 such as Roger Sanchez, Jeff Mills, Laurent Garnier,
 Sander Kleinenberg and Erick Morillo all use custom-built earplugs to
 protect the ears from those
 dangerous high frequencies coming out of the monitors. Maybe the
 familiar ringing in the ears
 the next morning after a club-night could about to become a thing of the
 past for those on
 the dancefloor too after purchasing these plugs, or is that 'whistling'
 sound simply an integral part of a good night out?

  

 
 
 
 



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RE: (313) Saturday in Detroit Psycho dynamics Live Tour

2005-11-15 Thread Steward, Tim
 
AdamX - Monolith -   Psycho dynamics Live Tour

Adam X-  Live
Monolith   -  Live
Lady Wraith - Live Domination Action
T.Linder
TS-1

Nov 19th. @ Labyrinth. 400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
18+   $10

10pm-3am

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RE: (313)The Evolution Of Sound

2005-11-08 Thread Steward, Tim
I may be a little late on this, but just received my copy today
And a little bias since I'm a mills fan.

But it's an excellent pick.
Definitely worth buying for any/all collectors.
The tracks are a classic instrumentation of the future of electronic music.
When I say future, I mean the concept/storyline of the CD. He always
attempts
To open the portal of our minds.


-Tim
















 

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From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: (313) New Mills cd, etc.

This is an excellent CD well worth the extra effort to find--it is out there
;-D



From: Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) New Mills cd, etc.
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:21:34 -0700

Does anyone have info on this relaease?  
http://www.discogs.com/release/544601
Is it availble outside of Japan yet?  The discogs notes say that it's a US 
release, but it doesn't seem to be available from any known outlets.

Also, some nice pics of Mills live with a 909 and Scion (does this mean 
that a new release of theirs is in the works?) performing can be found here

http://blog.excite.co.jp/jeff05

wojtek




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RE: (313) kelly hand

2005-10-12 Thread Steward, Tim
 kelly hand is on deck this weekend in detroit
Below is the info


After Glow  @  Johansen Charles Gallery
Saturday Oktober 15, 2K5

K-HAND  Acacia Records/Detroit
Tim Baker Elephanthaus Rec./Real Estate Rec. Chicago/Detroit
DJ 3000 Motech Records/ U.R
Hakim Murphy  Random Access Recording / Planet Detroit
Hammer Brothers (Live) / Planet Detroit
TS-1   soultraxx Records/Planet Detroit

1345 Division St. @Eastern Mkt - Detroit
$10 Cover
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RE: (313) Record Time

2005-10-11 Thread Steward, Tim
Not to be confused, Recordtime still sells vinyl
They only moved the vinyl out of the dance room
Into the main room.(There was always vinyl in the
Main room, just not dance music). 

-Original Message-
From: Renegade808 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:25 PM
To: Svagr, Jodie
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Record Time

errr.i'm not starting any rumour's here. i have said basically what alot
of people on this list said...that record time (roseville)  CLOSED the dance
room and its a shame. im not pushing anyone out of a job, i believe its
recordtime, and lack of record sales doing that.

michael



 I'm a bit confused over all this talk that Record time has 'packed up' 
 the dance room... I know Mike was in the Record Time Roseville...  and 
 it is definitely a bit of a shock that he no longer works there...  
 but saying that they've 'packed up' the dance room is going to hurt 
 the dance music sales they will still do from the Record Time Ferndale 
 location...  Don't push the rest of the guys like Vince Patricola out 
 of a job by starting rumours that there will no longer be dance music
sales!!

 Jodie

 -Original Message-
 From: Renegade808 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 October 2005 22:17
 To: Fred Heutte
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Record Time


 Yea i have to agree. Mike Huckaby was a big force behind alot of 
 the music at record time. When he called me a week or so ago to let me 
 know he was done there, i thought he was kidding at first. I hope Mike 
 moves on to better things. He really deserves it.

 I know record time was never the end all be all record source, but i 
 picked up many gems out of that place. as well as met loads of people 
 there...I used to do mail order from record time back around 94 and 
 have alot of great records because of it. i loved those days I am 
 sad that they have packed the dance room up. alot of history there. 
 but i guess its just a sign of the times...or something...



 michael
 www.renegaderhythms.com



 wow . . .

 I never did all that well shopping at RT but unquestionably it was a 
 highlight of many of my visits to the D (I met Terrence Parker there 
 for the first time in 1995, just to name one example), and a hugely 
 important connecting point for those serious-about- the-music.  Plus 
 it seems like at least half of y'all in town worked there one time or 
 another :)

 Give it up for Mike Huckaby.  I hope he lands at a good spot.
 In my observation, nobody has done more than Mike to keep the music 
 going.



 Fred







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(313) After Glow Oktober15 Detroit

2005-10-06 Thread Steward, Tim
After Glow  @  Johansen Charles Gallery
Saturday Oktober 15, 2K5

K-HAND  Acacia Records/Detroit
Tim Baker Elephanthaus Rec./Real Estate Rec. Chicago/Detroit
DJ 3000 Motech Records/ U.R
Hakim Murphy  Random Access Recording / Planet Detroit
Hammer Brothers (Live) / Planet Detroit
TS-1   soultraxx Records/Planet Detroit

1345 Division St. @Eastern Mkt - Detroit
$10 Cover
www.planetdetroit.net



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(313) After Glow Saturday Oktober 15, 2K5

2005-10-04 Thread Steward, Tim
After Glow  @  Johansen Charles Gallery
Saturday Oktober 15, 2K5

K-HAND  Acacia Records/Detroit
Tim Baker Elephanthaus Rec./Real Estate Rec. Chicago/Detroit
DJ 3000 Motech Records/ U.R
Hakim Murphy  Random Access Recording / Planet Detroit
Hammer Brothers (Live) / Planet Detroit
TS-1   soultraxx Records/Planet Detroit

1345 Division St. @Eastern Mkt - Detroit
$10 Cover
www.planetdetroit.net



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(313) fuse after party

2005-05-23 Thread Steward, Tim

visit
www.planetdetroit.net

The Invasion @ Labyrinth   400 bagley at cass a short walk from hart plaza
Saturday May 28th,  10pm -5am$7.00 all night

dj Quadlow, forward:detroit330-500a
dj Adam X, sonic groove NY 130-330a
vj juLiE mEitZ detroit 130-330a
dj Minx  women on wax,m-nus, hitgirl   1230-130
dj Bumblebee chicago, dark intelligent DnB 11-1230
dj TS1   soultraxx detroit,10-1100










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(313) Fuse-in Detroit

2005-04-26 Thread Steward, Tim

This Wed. or Thurs. Fuse-in Detroit will be releasing a general press
release. The meat and potatoes of information will be released at a press
Conference on May 3rd. Information on the ability to charge, Line-up and all
the other goodies will be released sometime between 10am and 2pm on Tuesday
May 3rd. 



-Tim




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RE: (313) lake shore drive

2005-04-18 Thread Steward, Tim
In Detroit, Jefferson ave turns into lake shore drive
as you enter grosse pointe, st clair shores etc.. there you
will find tons of mini/mansions some not so mini.
Michigan ave is the road that run all the way to Chicago.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) lake shore drive


Isn't it the drive that leads north to Chicago

On 18 Apr 2005, at 13:08, lee herrington wrote:

 Lake Shore Drive



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RE: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?

2004-12-10 Thread Steward, Tim
Yes they were there twice

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Didn't Slum Village already appear at one of the previous DEMFs?

MEK


   
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Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this
time and it has not been reflected in the festival

 What sound of Detroit is the festival not covering?

I wouldn't mind seeing Slum Village and Premier Cru at DEMF 2005...

Martin



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(313) The Future Is Coming

2004-07-02 Thread Steward, Tim
 
Future Friday
July 30th
Tavern on the Park
1570 Woodward Avenue
Detroit, MI

Cost:Free
10pm-2am
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RE: (313) Theo P

2004-06-29 Thread Steward, Tim
this would be a good reason, tons of people just
watch the dj's hands and try to determine what record
is playing next, instead of dancing with anticipation

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I always thought it was to stop trainspotters and just to get people to
dance and listen to the music instead of watching / worshipping the
dj...

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Does anyone know the real reason why he always plays behind a screen?




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RE: (313) Freefloats and feedback.

2004-06-17 Thread Steward, Tim
I always do a little vibration test to decide if I need
them, there are times when I was without and wish I had them.
-try stomping on the floor in front of the djbooth/table
and see if your record skips, or bumb the booth/table.
The floats may be wierd looking but they absorb the vibration.
But if you buy some try them out at home first so you know
exactly how much air to put in them if you put too much
the center can make your deck be un-balanced. Anytime your playing
outside with a raised staged you should use them


Tim

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We sell them at Rub A Dub and they are proving quiet popular at the mo 
(I'm pretty sure its a Dutch company that designed them)- seem to be 
getting lots of use at big festivals- they were everywhere at Movement 
and Soma just bought a couple of pairs for their Sonar parties

cheers

Jason


 They seem to be big thing in Holland. I played there a gig couple of 
 weeks
 ago and the venue had Freefloats under their decks. AFAIK they were
 invented in Holland for the Dancevalley event (correct me if I'm 
 wrong).

 Couple of points. I correct my mixes when the both channels are 
 playing on
 top of eachother with the pitch fader. That felt really odd at first 
 since
 the deck was wobbling back and forth. This was due to the fact that the
 decks were quite new and the pitches were very tight. How ever the 
 needle
 didn't jump once during my 2,5h. Hmm, that was actually just one point 
 :D

 Any hoo, I ordered couple of those from a friend of mine. I like to 
 play
 without the 'floats but there are couple of places where they are more
 than welcome.

 --
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RE: (313) Freefloats and feedback.

2004-06-17 Thread Steward, Tim
the decks will still move, but the needle won't jump
But it's a matter of your preference, the floats I can
easily just pop into my bag, and pull them out in the
venue causes for them.  If you play a venue that already
has decks then you only pack your records, and if the dj
ahead of you had the skipping/ vibration going on it will
only take you a few minutes to slide in and setup your 
floats without stopping the groove.

Tim

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They were using those Orange cushion things at the Movement Festival, and
in my opinion they didn't seem to work too well. They still make the decks
bob up and down, like you are at sea.

What I would recommend is to go buy those foam pads that go under monitor
speakers and use those. They work far better at reducing unwanted
vibrations. Still, your decks will be raised up about 4 inches, so be
prepared for that.

e

 Incidentally for the gig I just mentioned in a previous post I've
 purchased
 a pair of those Freefloat things (bright orange, weirdly shaped
 inflatable
 cushions you put your decks on) in an attempt to reduce feedback which
 seems
 to the limiting factor with our set up at the venue we're playing.  Does
 anyone know if they work for this purpose?  The makers reckon you should
 be
 able to turn your system up 20 - 30 dB more (so I guess they must provide
 20 - 30 dBrw?).
 What other measures do people find effective to combat feedback (foam vs.
 inner tubes vs. paving slabs vs. water vs. combinations vs. something I
 haven't heard of etc.) and what does anyone know about the phenomenon?
 I've
 heard that Technics 1200s/1210s may be particularly susceptible to
 vibrating
 at a frequency which I've heard quoted as both round 60Hz and 40Hz.

 Francis



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RE: (313) Re: *** Spam? *** RE: (313) stuff

2004-06-16 Thread Steward, Tim
If they release in the worldwide then everyone
would order via the web from the US, and just
order multiple things pay a cheap shipping cost
for example a US released 12inch 6.99 average
plus 5.00 shipping equals 11.99 one imported
12inch in the US is 11.99 base price...



Tim

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Is the Japanese fanbase bigger or
more likely to buy?

seems weird doesn't it?

i.e. why not just release things worldwide like everyone else does?
I presume there's a good reason, I have no idea what it is though.

anyone?
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RE: (313) Future of Movement

2004-06-04 Thread Steward, Tim
I agree with Lisa, Kent and many of the other comments made.
I support Derrick and his company, but for the festival I think
there needs to be a few adjustments to make it happen.
1 a project manager, not an artist running the project but
  a skilled project manager to make sure it comes together.
2 a detailed budget, face it nothing is free 
3 a massive marketing campaign/team
4 Understand that running a festival is like a business, the
CEO (Derrick) can only be a success if he surrounds himself with
a successful/positive team . 
 

Tim

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To: Kent williams
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Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ...

I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for 
donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that 
he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never 
fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to 
bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this.

I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) 
that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal  private 
retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original 
goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say 
as well (it's important to talk about what went well  what didn't in 
equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what 
might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to 
have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not 
involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep 
it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of 
hand.

I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda 
stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the 
content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it 
works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand 
just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) 
and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that 
they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an 
outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're 
good, that is - LOL).

Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is 
that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are 
supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is 
spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no fault of 
anyone other than the situation itself). Of course there has to be 
status meetings and such, otherwise things get out of hand.

Sorry if this is kinda geeky, but I think that if it can work for 
complex, multi-million dollar projects, then some of the ideas can help 
with any large undertaking, like a festival.

Lisa


Kent williams wrote:
 We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here,
but
 I have a few things to say on the subject:
 
 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and
 constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling
 in it. There was a vibe there that is rare.  That, to me, is the most
 precious thing about the Festival.
 
 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May
 put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't
 help.  There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell
 it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve.
 Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job.
 
 Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role.  I don't know
 Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate,
 and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game
 in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3
 day festival are completely different.
 
 Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been
 said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press.
 
 http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm
 
 




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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12 which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it. 
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth. 
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set. 


Tim

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I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city. 

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Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
I'd like to know...

Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
happen again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

MEK



 

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  I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business
classes.
~E

From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.
Detroit
can't let this slip away.

this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
should read this

I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so
I
can go again next year
where do I send my check?







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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co..
it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support
the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they
had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event
as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any...
These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...

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was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year
-doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but
as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands
 
also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru
and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest
I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and
producing net along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats
off to Derrick, Kevin and Co...

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Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement



Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my
budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a
major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown
last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they
need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of
money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12
which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of
joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs
to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old
demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it.
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth.
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were
politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it
was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good
show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You..
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon
@nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.


Tim

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Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement


I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we
have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you
guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the
city.

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Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some
cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money
or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major
debt

RE: (313) movement CD

2004-06-02 Thread Steward, Tim
Did anyone pick up the movement CD ? if so
how is it?




Tim



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RE: (313) Movement schedule?

2004-05-27 Thread Steward, Tim
Still no schedule, and it appears they have added more names
since the last time I checked. Originally they didn't want 
to have a lot of Detroit DJ's but they are slowly adding a few.

-Tim

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hmmm ... anyone seen it yet? as of right now (12am EST, Thurs) there 
isn't anything on the movementfestival site under the 'schedule' section.

ah, the suspense ...

lisa



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RE: (313) why lie on your bio (Tim Baker)

2004-05-24 Thread Steward, Tim
The detroit music scene spread throughout the entire 
metro detroit area, Most of us college kids from the
Ypsilanti/Ann Arbor area would come back to Detroit
to party, But I can tell you for a fact that the overall
support from the music community was not present in
Detroit. I am from Detroit and I know that each time
I came home for the weekend/summer the people in my 
neighborhood wanted me to turn off my tapes they didn't
want to hear the music. It's not a matter of Where
Tim Baker is from, but the spirit by which he produces.
So it's ok with me if he says Detroit, because he is not
just a new kid on the block, he been around for a long time.


Tim Steward

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I was on the Tim Baker website the other day and it says he grew up in
Detroit. Now that is not true. I work in Ann Arbor, an I work with someone
who went to middle school and high school with him. At first I didn't
believe him until they just showed me yearbook pictures from his middle
school (scarllet) and High School (Ann Arbor Huron class of 85) Pictures.
Detroit and Ann Arbor are two different cites socially and geographic why do
people lie just to say the are from Detroit?



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(313) movement passes

2004-05-18 Thread Steward, Tim
What's the thought on the movement VIP passes 50 / 200


Tim

TS-1

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Security at Federal buildings is equally inconsistent.

I'm a contractor with the DoD right now, and the other day I got stopped
and questioned on the way in from lunch because there was a fork in my
lunch bag. The same fork I strolled right through security with on the way
in that morning.

I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to
attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork.
:)

john.


 The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors.  The stern
 glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to
 make you feel like It's All Under Control.

 None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly
  arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in
 The  New America.
 [Ken Odeluga]

  Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will
 ever
 be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders.

 k





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RE: (313) mp3(13) ...

2004-05-18 Thread Steward, Tim
On the Kevin Saunderson' site kmsproductions.com you can
find 1 mp3 for sell, and that was just added within the
past couple of weeks. So it might catch on soon around the 313


TS-1

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Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ?  So
far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or
anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the
technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ]

peace,
marc




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RE: (313) Movement Thoughts

2004-05-03 Thread Steward, Tim
It will happen for sure, If D.May said he would produce
the line-up this week then he will keep his word.
Dealing with the City of Det. is very difficult 
especially for an event of this magnitude.

TS-1

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Is it just me? But it seems like they should have had the movement line up
set months ago. I mean with less than a month to go we don't know anything.
Is this a sign of being unorganized in doing events like this? Will it even
happen?



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RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?

2004-04-14 Thread Steward, Tim
I agree with J.T.  just think $17 for the record today
with 1-4 tracks then a CD tomorrow with 8 plus tracks
will end up priced at $34  this absolutely squeezes out
the small labels. I think the reason behind this is
If and artist is hot today, there is no guarantee he/she
will be hot tomorrow so they make as much money as they
can today. But if we keep buying they will keep selling

TS-1

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what?? there's no reason for a gd repress to be $17. f that. i aint buying 
it. i'll wait to pick up a dozen other classics for the same money at a 
secondhand place. there's loads of other classics out there...
i dont think there are many positive ramifications of pricing records this 
way.
it is supply and demand yes, high price to make as much profit as possible 
because demand is not that great. those who want it want it bad enough to 
pay the retarded price. it's a kinda shady way to hype your product: it 
costs a lot -- it must be good! it's worth it! well maybe, but it's not 
worth 3 times the price of other new records, especially not for a repress. 
even from a collector standpoint..all glory is to the original pressing, 
traditionally represses arent worth much, they even devalue. you cant put a 
price on good music, but there is a standard price for records so...
overall i think this trend stinks. leaves buyers with a smaller budget for 
other new records, gives these high-priced classics, new peacefrogs etc, 
somewhat undue priority with your wallet. nice marketing trick but makes the

vinyl market even more exclusive, and harder for smaller labels to stay in 
the game. generally takes some joy out of buying new records. whatever.
props to clone for repressing glass domain with a normal pricetag.


its supply and demand. even @ $10 and up from US distros, all the
distros were out within hours of getting them in. i know my demand
for the record was well over $17 (what i paid for it from
submerge) but well under what a used copy goes for on ebay. ill be
happy to get the other 69 records for the same price as well. now
carl needs to repress those retroactive records and a couple more
early planet e joints to make me happy.

tom


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RE: (313) Movement 2004 Lineup

2004-04-13 Thread Steward, Tim
no word yet I tried to send a email to the contact mail
from the movement site last week and - still no response.

TS -1

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To: 313
Subject: (313) Movement 2004 Lineup



so 6 weeks to go and no line up yet?

anyone know when it's gonna be finalised?

ta

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RE: (313) Pin up Girls Take me Away dubbed up mix pin up girl s records

2004-04-13 Thread Steward, Tim
That's right it's a Jeff Mills classic with Brigette Grace
a must have for house heads. Most people didn't know it was
a mills track so you may be able to find it. Sorry I can't sell
my copy

TS-1

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:35 AM
To: placid
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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records


I have this on Network records. Its by Jeff Mills and James Pennington if I
remember correctly. Massive housey club anthem from back in the day. There
was also a Nexus 21 remix on it.

Stewart

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: (313) Pin up Girls Take me Away dubbed up mix pin up girls records


 Wonder if anyone has any info on this...  it is on 'pin up girls' label
 and has 3 very Detroit sounding mixes..

 Take me away pin up girls remix
 Tech me away
 Take me away - dubbed up mix

 Cant find it on discogs...

 For anyone that has the sting on acid ep, it looks like the same label
 as that

 Cat # tma 001..

 Any help  much appreciated...

 It could be nexus 21 mixes but there is no credits or anything at all...







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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Steward, Tim
There is no way you can say mills is a lightweight,
Music production is an art, and art is a form of expression
if you choose not to buy it that's your choice, but call
him a lightweight when he is a true artist..It appears to me
that he is able to continually re-create himself and capture
his audience. If you take a look around the industry there are
many people that copy the things he does, for example
without naming names - who just recently copied his See The Light
idea...and who will copy the dvd concept next.. 
The art of DJing is not easy we all know, but the art of music
production is not easy either (believe me) In order for the techno
(electro,house,jungle,trance etc...) scene to survive more people
have to constantly step out on the edge and try to re-create themselves.

TS-1   (Deep in the 313) Where music evolves from the soul of the city

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:27 PM
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Cc: 'Robert Taylor'; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


you want a concept? buy a friggen Nation of Ulysses record. Now they had
f**kin concepts.

Mills is a lightweight.







On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:

 Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!!
 At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
 things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
 Take from it what you want.
 At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
 but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
 opinion on others.

 Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
 because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12
 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
 nonsense to explain it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
 To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
 concept.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06
 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.

 What do you mean by conceptual?


 -Original Message-
 From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
 To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 No, it's obviously conceptual.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04
 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 My arse

 -Original Message-
 From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
 To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02
 To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 But it's just a record

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)

 Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
design
 to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time

 This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation
where
 you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being
 received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment
 other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited
sense
 these things cease to exist.

 Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very
 interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we
perceive
 and know anything at all.

 So there!

 Peace,

 Andrew






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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Steward, Tim
Let us see you step up to the plate, what's the title of your
latest cut - let me go pick it up and see who the lightweight is...


313   - TS-1

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you want a concept? buy a friggen Nation of Ulysses record. Now they had
f**kin concepts.

yes, go buy a Nation of Ulysses record because their concepts are the best
concepts in this whole world
that way once you've bought a Nation of Ulysses record you will never have
to buy another record by anyone trying to pull ideas together into a
complete package
their concepts are more valid than Jeff Mills' concepts so Jeff, if you're
reading any of this - stop right now because Nation of Ulysses is better
than you and, even though you are addressing totally different issues and
with different styles of music, you can't beat them no matter how hard you
try

same goes for those Underground Resistance guys, that Richie Hawtin
character, and Kraftwerk - what a bunch of lightweights

MEK




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RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Steward, Tim
It was for yussel, but I don't think I need to argue about this
anymore, because we each have our own opinions...
But I will read a NoU CD booklet, and my point will still stand
that mills is not a lightweight. And I won't call NoU lightweights
either because I respect what each artist does.

TS-1

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Steward, Tim
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


easy sparky.

i said when it comes to concepts- mills is a lightweight. read a NoU CD
booklet and see what i'm saying.

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Steward, Tim wrote:

 There is no way you can say mills is a lightweight,
 Music production is an art, and art is a form of expression
 if you choose not to buy it that's your choice, but call
 him a lightweight when he is a true artist..It appears to me
 that he is able to continually re-create himself and capture
 his audience. If you take a look around the industry there are
 many people that copy the things he does, for example
 without naming names - who just recently copied his See The Light
 idea...and who will copy the dvd concept next..
 The art of DJing is not easy we all know, but the art of music
 production is not easy either (believe me) In order for the techno
 (electro,house,jungle,trance etc...) scene to survive more people
 have to constantly step out on the edge and try to re-create themselves.

 TS-1   (Deep in the 313) Where music evolves from the soul of the city

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:27 PM
 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
 Cc: 'Robert Taylor'; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


 you want a concept? buy a friggen Nation of Ulysses record. Now they had
 f**kin concepts.

 Mills is a lightweight.







 On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:

  Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!!
  At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to
do
  things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
  Take from it what you want.
  At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all
-
  but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my
  opinion on others.
 
  Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway -
  because that is just not challenging, in the slightest.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 April 2004 1:12
  To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting
  nonsense to explain it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
  To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a
  concept.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06
  To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan.
 
  What do you mean by conceptual?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM
  To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  No, it's obviously conceptual.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04
  To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  My arse
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM
  To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02
  To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  But it's just a record
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) new Mills
 
 
  Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)
 
  Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
 design
  to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time
 
  This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation
 where
  you are in space which is completely white - no other information is
being
  received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your
environment
  other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so

RE: (313) new Mills

2004-04-08 Thread Steward, Tim
And I don't hang out with spw 

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:12 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) new Mills


-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hahahahahahahah!

have you ever read an NoU booklet?

dont lie to us, man. do you hang out with spw? 

tom 


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RE: (313) Transmat Cisco (was Movement compilation)

2004-04-06 Thread Steward, Tim
Ok so I am right here in Detroit and I will be one of the last people
to get a copy of the CD...does that make since, if I don't use some
connects and jump though hoops to get it early I will be waiting
until the festivalsomething is wrong with that picture...talking
about keeping the techno scene alive in Detroit where is the inner city
marketing..

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: John Osselaer
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Transmat  Cisco (was Movement compilation)






The CD will be released on April 23rd in Japan via Cisco/Soundscape.
The CD will also be sold during the Movement festival.

so the only places you can get the CD are at the festival and through the
Cisco/Soundscape store?

what is the deal with Transmat and Cisco? I just picked up the
Time:Space_02 CD (import) and it's published by Soundscape and distributed
by Cisco

does Cisco have exclusive distribution for Transmat?

MEK


 

  John Osselaer

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  ndora.becc:

   Subject:  (313) Movement
compilation
  04/06/04 02:39 PM

 

 





Hi list,

We have a news item up at the site that might interest some folks:
information about the Movement compilation and the full track listing.

http://www.technotourist.org


John


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RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Steward, Tim
I also disagree - because a record label is responsible 
for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
to promote themselves in this market how do they expect 
people to know what they are about or trying to do..
I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that 
allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
industry I am sure that is rare for most people...

Just thoughts...

TS-1

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Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)


Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience
understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about.

I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;)

e




he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again

 Did he state for what reason?

 This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many
 other list members have heard artists say this.

 US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live elsewhere
 because they are requested to play more often in other countries
 and
 DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now
 refuse to

 what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or
 refusing to play in the states?

 frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand)

 MEK





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RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Steward, Tim
So true, but if the proper promotion is done for
the gig upfront, the crowd would be there.  either
way the artist makes his/her money regardless..
and maybe it's just me, but if I'm spinning I am
going to put my all into it even it's only
25 people at the gig, those 25 will remember the
night...

TS-1

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From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:23 PM
To: 'robin'; Steward, Tim
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)


How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to
gigs where no one came to?
You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the basis
that they are at least gonna be worth your while

It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US) anyway.

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06 
To: Steward, Tim
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)



yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he 
gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere.

anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us 
disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too)


robin...

Steward, Tim wrote:
 I also disagree - because a record label is responsible 
 for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
 in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
 to promote themselves in this market how do they expect 
 people to know what they are about or trying to do..
 I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that 
 allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
 industry I am sure that is rare for most people...
 
 Just thoughts...
 
 TS-1
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)
 
 
 Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience
 understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about.
 
 I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;)
 
 e
 
 
 

he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again

Did he state for what reason?

This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many
other list members have heard artists say this.

US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live elsewhere
because they are requested to play more often in other countries
and
DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now
refuse to

what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or
refusing to play in the states?

frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand)

MEK


 
 
 
 
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RE: (313)Final scratch

2004-04-02 Thread Steward, Tim
What's the overall opinion of final scratch -
a dj showing up to gig with a laptop vs decks

Just a question?

Because I have seen some use just the laptop
and final scratch and you just don't get the same
vibe... But on the other hand I have seen Kevin
Saunderson use it along with decks and rocked the house
like you would not believe...and I was not sold on it
until I saw him up close...



TS-1

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Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question


well I have had the pleasure a few times and now having been
watching him from behind him with Final scratch and Albeton
I can say its unreal the effort he puts in ..mentally more than
physically..we all know he has excellent tricks but he was mixing at least 4
sounds last September and so he didn't do too many but I think that pauid
off as his less
is definatley more..if you know what I mean ;)

I will report on Monday what happened this time :)

I can't wait to see him again!!

have a good wknd all :)

Ian
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Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question






i think that's the sort of faux modesty you get from a lot of people when
they have one particular release that completely overshadows everything
else
they've done.

Well, in my brief moments with Claude I can say that I doubt he's the type
to faux anything - he's a pretty humble guy
I don't think the DJ Kicks overshadows everything he's done either
His 7th City, Djax, Elypsia, the work he's done with Terrence Parker and
his Dow releases - all of it is A+

the one thing is - listening to his mixes is not half as good as watching
him DJ

MEK


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RE: (313) Dutch stage @ Movement

2004-04-01 Thread Steward, Tim
Has anyone heard about the rest of the lineup
- or when they will announce it

TS-1

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Subject: Re: (313) Dutch stage @ Movement


ok-

someone please break down who these people are.

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, kj at technotourist dot org wrote:


 On 1-apr-04, at 21:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Not to take the wind out of the fellows at Technotourist but they got
  the
  listing of who will represent Holland in Detroit
 
  http://technotourist.org/modules.php?
  op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=531
 
  some good stuff going on

 Hmmm yeah you said it some good stuff. Not much but some. This is a
 not a good representation of the current dutch techno-scene at all. I
 don't hope that this line-up is what we can expect from the full
 Movement line-up

 I will be dancing in front of the stage when Duplex plays but they
 should be on the mainstage IMHO :-))





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RE: (313) Dutch stage @ Movement

2004-04-01 Thread Steward, Tim
man I have some detroit techno coming out soon
and I hope you won't think it's dull. It will
be unique for sure..



TS-1

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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) Dutch stage @ Movement


man- lets hope so. all this detroit techno is gettin a bit dull ;)

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 yeah so get out your kangol hats, white gloves, smiley shirts, stick a
 whistle in your gob, maybe a bit of the ol' vicks in dust mask - grab a
 blow stick and go

 I'm sure every single one of these artists is going to playing from their
 DJ cases labeled 91-95 'ardkore - DO NOT OPEN UNTIL MOVEMENT 04

 check your head
 MEK



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 so from what i'm gathering, we gonna be gettin some old-school euro rave
 techno. not sure how i feel about that just yet...




 On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, kj at technotourist dot org wrote:

 
   someone please break down who these people are.
 
  Yes please someone!
 
  I give it a shot, dutchies correct me if i am wrong:
 
  Aardvarck: Rusty techno producer from Amsterdam. Used to do stuff for
  Djax a lng time ago. Does stuff for Delsin, Music for Speaker,
  Signum and Relaxo Abstracto. I also part of Rednose District i think.
 
  Benny Rodrigues: Techno DJ from Rotterdam or The Hague i think...
 
  Dame: Dunno who this is, someone told me today that she is a she...
 
  Dimitri: Used to be one of Holland's hottest DJ's, could play amazing
  sets during his High Tech Soul Movement nights in Amsterdam. Apparently
  Derrick May wanted him on this stage.
 
  Estroe. Amsterdam based DJ who plays techno...
 
  Joachim: Headhoncho of this stage, he came up with this idea
 
  Ramon: Don't have a clue who this is...
 
  Remy: Like Dimitri, he also used to be one of hollands hottest and
  hippest dj's. Plays banging techno with long drumrolls (when i hear
  him).
 
  Rockid:  erm... no clue here...
 
  Duplex: The unsung hero's of dutch techno!
 
  Joris Voorn: Upcoming producer from holland, released records on
  Keynote  Sino. Future releases on Kanzeleramt i think and possibly
  Transmat.
 
  Legowelt: Electro  Italo hero's!
 
  Leroy: Never heard him but i think he plays nu-soul, stuff. heard some
  good stories about him.
 
  Miss Monica: Boring techno dj who used to DJ in the same time as
  Dimitri  Remy... don't have a clue why they booked her...
 
  Paco  Frederick: Cheesy progressive house act, much played by people
  like John Digweed (yes i am embarrassed that i actually know this)
 
  Rednose Distrikt: Nu-soul act based around Aardvarck and some one else,
  i think that marsel knows more details.
 
  Steve Rachmad: He ain't playing at movement i think
 
  T!M: One of the owners of the Bootleg DJ Cafe in Rotterdam, runs
  grammar records also has some records out on Raygun, used to be part of
  Misja  Tim and responsible for the first x-trax releases.
 
  KJ
 
 







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RE: (313) movement accomodation etc

2004-03-22 Thread Steward, Tim
just as an fyi there is also a new hotel downtown at 351 gratiot in walking
distance
nicer than the shorecrest but hits for $119 on Fri and Sat. the
Hilton Garden Inn it just opened on March 4. it has a indoor pool
if you need to take a splash.

TS-1

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:41 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) movement accomodation etc


we should have a shorecrest 313 list get together. massive amounts 
of heads seem to be staying there. we can send someone out for 
chicken rings @ white castle one night before we all head out to 
after parties.

tom


-- Original Message --
From: Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:09:09 +1100


Peeps

I have a twin room at the shorecrest for the memorial day weekend 
and am
looking for a non-smoker ( in the room, that is ) who isn't 
looking for
party central to share. Hit me back privately if you're 
interested.


OK i know i'm slow but you really should know...larry levan was 
the
first to change lightbulbs...

p-dogg


 


andythepooh.com


 
   



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RE: (313) Tortured Soul!?!

2004-03-18 Thread Steward, Tim
I live in Detroit and I can see that House Music has
started to rise again, along with Techno, this is a
good time for music in Detroit. I have seen many DJ's
of the past(mainly house) starting to gig again.

The Techno scene is spreading around to the outskirts
of Detroit as well. It's easy to find a Techno or House
set to hit on the weekends now.


TS-1

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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:23 PM
To: Phonopsia
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313 list; Kent williams
Subject: Re: (313) Tortured Soul!?!


agreed-

if you mean the output of Detroit records and traveling Detroit DJ (at
least the one's favored by this list) than yeah. But believe me- Detroit
house has pretty much zero bearing on the Detroit club scene.



On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Phonopsia wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 313 list 313@hyperreal.org; Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) Tortured Soul!?!


   BTW - I think this is totally topical for [313], since Detroit house
 seems
   to be the lifeblood of Detroit club culture (from what I can see), and
 loads
   of this stuff feeds it in varying degrees.
 
  You had me up until here Tristan. I kinda fail to see how Detroit house
is
  any sort of lifeblood. More like on life support. Don't get me wrong- I
  love me some Mike Clark, but that's hardly the scene pushing Detroit.
 
  I wonder- when did you last live in Detroit (honest question,  don't
think
  we ever met until after you had moved to DC).

 Never actually, but lived in A2 in Jr. High (know that doesn't count) -
 quite some time before I got into this music.

  I only bring this up because
  I guess you ge this impression of Detroit house as a driving force
because
  you're only around for Festival Weekend. It also makes me wonder what
  other misconceptions people have about Detroit, if their only exposure
is
  that weekend.
 
  or i could be reaching.

 I'm sure there's some truth to that, but I'm also speaking from the
 perspective of seeing lots of Detroit DJs spinning in England, and also
 talking about the productions, which for me have made up at least 70% of
the
 best musical output from Detroit in the last four or five years. But I
have
 spent a number of non-festival weekends in Detroit a few years ago when I
 was seeing Jenn, and there seemed to be quite a bit of good stuff going on
 then, like @ Porter Street, TP's weeklies, etc. I know things have changed
a
 lot since then, but I guess it's what matters most to me in the Detroit
 scene today. I think we could've averted this discussion though if I
hadn't
 used the term 'club culture' and talked more about the stuff above?

 Tristan
 ===
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RE: (313) Fw: Detroit Grand Pubahs New Album

2004-03-10 Thread Steward, Tim
I am not sure why Andy left the band, I just
saw him this past saturday, he works at the
disc studio, I will be in there this weekend
doing some stuff, so I will ask him if he is
working.

TS-1

-Original Message-
From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Tom Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
Subject: AW: (313) Fw: Detroit Grand Pubahs New Album


Hey, does anyone know why Andy Toth (Dr Toefinger) left the band The
label says (jokingly) he ended up in the loony bin.. but I find this
incredibly hard to believe.








-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Tom Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:19
An: 313 mailing list
Betreff: (313) Fw: Detroit Grand Pubahs New Album

ARTIST: DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS
TITLE: GALACTIC ASS CREATURES FROM URANUS
LABEL: POKER FLAT
FORMAT: 2 x CD / 2 x 12
CAT. NO.: PFRCD11 / PFRLP11
RELEASE DATE: 26th APRIL 2004

The seminal electro-funk outfit from Detroit returns with a second album.
'Galactic Ass Creatures From Uranus' spans a full variety of minimal techno,
dirty P-Funk, raw hip-smart booty beats and downbeat electronic grooves -
all spiced-up with a healthy portion of humour, cartoon sexuality and the
search for the perfect booty. As ever the vocoder-pitched vocals by Paris
The Black Fu and the other odd characters mark their distinctive signature
sound.

Founded in 1998, the Pubahs group around producer and vocalist Paris The
Black Fu and his forked personalities. Their first single, 'Sandwiches',
became a huge worldwide club hit overnight and made it into the Billboard
dance charts as well as in the UK Top20 sales charts. The album 'Funk All
Y'all' was released in 2001 on the now defunct Jive Electro imprint. Since
then, the Pubahs completed a world tour and started working on 'Galactic Ass
Creatures From Uranus'.

Again the new album is brimful of straight forward booty tracks, raw Funk
and weird skits, but this time relaxed downbeat electronic grooves enrich
the Pubah's sound cosmos and make the 'Galactic Ass Creatures From Uranus' a
state of the art electronic album whilst of course being great fun to listen
to.

Smoothly starting with 'Landing in Detroit', the second track 'God
Impostors' makes a pure funk statement, before the emotional Electro track
'Surrender' leads over to 'Big Onion'. 'If you like the way I drop my funk:
just shake it!' Next up is the darker side of the album with 'Definition of
Sick' and 'Dead Presidents', before the epic 'Tig O' Bake Fitties' lays out
a downtempo funk ode to natural body parts. The beautifully gentle lounger
'Bite The Pillow Talk' lets you take breath for some more punchy booty beats
on 'Freak' and 'Weed in the Kitchen'. 'The Clapper' picks up on the sleeve
design and reports from another alien intrusion in that typical Detroit
Grand Pubahs style. After already introducing Dick Cannon ('Bite the Pillow
Talk', 'Training With Dick Cannon') Bill Crosby ('Weed In The Kitchen') and
Dirty Elvis DePorno ('Freak') amongst Paris The Black Fu we also meet Nurse
Hurse again, a character that was initially involved on the debut album.
Finally, the hypnotising 'Novacane' sets a speech by Malcolm X to music.

The first 12 outtake (The Clapper feat. Jesper Dahlback remix, pfr38) from
the album has already stirred quite a buzz and made it into many club charts
including the official German Dance charts. The next single 'Big Onion'
(feat. Joakim remix, pfr43) will be released in March and will come with a
video. The most prominent guest musicians involved in the album are Scott
Sumner (engineering) and Randall G. Lynch (guitar) who are regular studio
musicians for George Clinton.

The album release will be supported by an extended European tour starting in
late February in Dublin. Paris The Black Fu is also organising a Funk Stage
on the 10 Days Off festival in Belgium in July.

CD Tracklisting

1. Landing In Detroit
2. God Impostors
3. Surrender (The Bedroom Edit)
4. Big Onion
5. P. Sully (Skit)
6. Definition Of Sick
7. Dead Presidents
8. Tig O' Bake Fitties
9. Bite The Pillow Talk
10. Training With Dick Cannon
11. Freak
12. The Clapper
13. Weed In The Kitchen
14. Nurse Hurse Jack Move
15. Novacane
16. Butt Dream

www.pokerflat-recordings.com








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RE: (313) RE: why one is not a Detroit Grand Pubahs was:new album

2004-03-10 Thread Steward, Tim
I agree sometime creativity makes people grow apart.
And rumors are not a good thing, they only cause problems..
So until then we can just enjoy sandwiches

-Original Message-
From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:09 PM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: (313) RE: why one is not a Detroit Grand Pubahs was:new album




I can't speak for either Andy nor Paris, but the most
diplomatic answer here is, that sometimes people
creatively go their seperate ways.

Though the question is innocent, I think it's best
left between paris and andy. we all know how the rumor
mill works.

now, i hear dale lawrence dug himself a hole and is
not selling lemonade at raves


--- Steward, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not sure why Andy left the band, I just
 saw him this past saturday, he works at the
 disc studio, I will be in there this weekend
 doing some stuff, so I will ask him if he is
 working.
 
 TS-1
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:30 AM
 To: Tom Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
 Subject: AW: (313) Fw: Detroit Grand Pubahs New
 Album
 
 
 Hey, does anyone know why Andy Toth (Dr Toefinger)
 left the band The
 label says (jokingly) he ended up in the loony bin..
 but I find this
 incredibly hard to believe.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Tom Magic Feet
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:19
 An: 313 mailing list
 Betreff: (313) Fw: Detroit Grand Pubahs New Album
 
 ARTIST: DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS
 TITLE: GALACTIC ASS CREATURES FROM URANUS
 LABEL: POKER FLAT
 FORMAT: 2 x CD / 2 x 12
 CAT. NO.: PFRCD11 / PFRLP11
 RELEASE DATE: 26th APRIL 2004
 
 The seminal electro-funk outfit from Detroit returns
 with a second album.
 'Galactic Ass Creatures From Uranus' spans a full
 variety of minimal techno,
 dirty P-Funk, raw hip-smart booty beats and downbeat
 electronic grooves -
 all spiced-up with a healthy portion of humour,
 cartoon sexuality and the
 search for the perfect booty. As ever the
 vocoder-pitched vocals by Paris
 The Black Fu and the other odd characters mark their
 distinctive signature
 sound.
 
 Founded in 1998, the Pubahs group around producer
 and vocalist Paris The
 Black Fu and his forked personalities. Their first
 single, 'Sandwiches',
 became a huge worldwide club hit overnight and made
 it into the Billboard
 dance charts as well as in the UK Top20 sales
 charts. The album 'Funk All
 Y'all' was released in 2001 on the now defunct Jive
 Electro imprint. Since
 then, the Pubahs completed a world tour and started
 working on 'Galactic Ass
 Creatures From Uranus'.
 
 Again the new album is brimful of straight forward
 booty tracks, raw Funk
 and weird skits, but this time relaxed downbeat
 electronic grooves enrich
 the Pubah's sound cosmos and make the 'Galactic Ass
 Creatures From Uranus' a
 state of the art electronic album whilst of course
 being great fun to listen
 to.
 
 Smoothly starting with 'Landing in Detroit', the
 second track 'God
 Impostors' makes a pure funk statement, before the
 emotional Electro track
 'Surrender' leads over to 'Big Onion'. 'If you like
 the way I drop my funk:
 just shake it!' Next up is the darker side of the
 album with 'Definition of
 Sick' and 'Dead Presidents', before the epic 'Tig O'
 Bake Fitties' lays out
 a downtempo funk ode to natural body parts. The
 beautifully gentle lounger
 'Bite The Pillow Talk' lets you take breath for some
 more punchy booty beats
 on 'Freak' and 'Weed in the Kitchen'. 'The Clapper'
 picks up on the sleeve
 design and reports from another alien intrusion in
 that typical Detroit
 Grand Pubahs style. After already introducing Dick
 Cannon ('Bite the Pillow
 Talk', 'Training With Dick Cannon') Bill Crosby
 ('Weed In The Kitchen') and
 Dirty Elvis DePorno ('Freak') amongst Paris The
 Black Fu we also meet Nurse
 Hurse again, a character that was initially involved
 on the debut album.
 Finally, the hypnotising 'Novacane' sets a speech by
 Malcolm X to music.
 
 The first 12 outtake (The Clapper feat. Jesper
 Dahlback remix, pfr38) from
 the album has already stirred quite a buzz and made
 it into many club charts
 including the official German Dance charts. The next
 single 'Big Onion'
 (feat. Joakim remix, pfr43) will be released in
 March and will come with a
 video. The most prominent guest musicians involved
 in the album are Scott
 Sumner (engineering) and Randall G. Lynch (guitar)
 who are regular studio
 musicians for George Clinton.
 
 The album release will be supported by an extended
 European tour starting in
 late February in Dublin. Paris The Black Fu is also
 organising a Funk Stage
 on the 10 Days Off festival in Belgium in July.
 
 CD Tracklisting
 
 1. Landing In Detroit
 2. God Impostors
 3. Surrender (The Bedroom Edit)
 4. Big Onion
 5. P. Sully (Skit)
 6. Definition Of Sick
 7. Dead Presidents
 8. Tig O' Bake Fitties
 9. Bite The Pillow

(313) Mills DVD

2004-03-09 Thread Steward, Tim

I might be late, but has anyone checked out the
exhibitionist dvd yet, if what did you think?
I'm interested in see it since he has truly mastered
the art of using 3 decks.


Tim Steward  (TS-1)



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RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio

2004-03-08 Thread Steward, Tim
I agree with not adding very strict rules, but if everyone
takes the initiative to understand the purpose of the 313
and respects the views of everyone.. I'm from the 313 and
there are tons of 313ers on the list still. I was off for a
few years and just came back and hope to stay..


TS1


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:39 PM
To: synthetic tom
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio


just one more from me on this topic (noise) and then I'll shut it.  ;)

I can see all the points of view, and appreciate that this is a
self-moderated list. I think it would be a mistake to clamp down very strict
rules (I think the ones we already have are fine) or isolate particular
groups because that could harm creativity and spontaneity. Maybe if we all
just try to remember to chill on the attaboys or I agree, yeah kinda
mails (plus the OT stuff) then that would reduce the list traffic? A little
variety/diversity is nice tho' and can often fuel actual 313-related stuff.
imho.

I don't post often because I work and am in grad school full time. by the
time I have 2 seconds to sit down, my brain is often so fried there would
just be no point. My filtered mail box at home has 2200+ '313' messages
right now 'cos I haven't had time to go thru them all (and I don't like the
digest format). But I will go thru them  just delete the ones that I don't
find relevant - it's not a big deal to me, but that's just me.

lisa

- Original Message -
From: synthetic tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, March 8, 2004 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio

 correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is 
 in 
 the form of complaints regarding noise.  kind of ironic, right?
 
 delete takes a second.  let people say what they want to say.  
 noise is 
 an inherent part of any community, online or real life.
 
 and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread:
 
 lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott 
 slowly surely)
 
 t
 
 On Mar 8, 2004, at 2:09 PM, kj at technotourist dot org wrote:
 
 
  On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote:
 
  Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit 
 music in 
  Europe and the UK?
  There certainly more events going on and the people are closer 
 to 
  each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to 
 talk 
  about.
 
  That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying 
 here that 
  if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for 
 this list 
  that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. 
 Maybe 
  another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that 
 your 
  posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of 
 them 
  might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need 
 for 
  something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we 
 dutchies 
  have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for 
 years now. 
  It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in 
 1994 when 
  this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary 
 this 
  year!).
 
 
  From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people
  post here anymore?  I just looked at the first Digest from
  Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the
  Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ...
 
 
 



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(313) new artist

2004-03-08 Thread Steward, Tim
Has anyone heard any tracks by any new artist from the 313
and would like to share a review.

TS-1



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RE: (313) Detroit music reviews

2004-03-08 Thread Steward, Tim
I picked up Matthew Dears anger mgt this weekend,
he definitely experimented with this it was a
good buy to add to the collection. I listened to
it in the middle of spinning other tracks, so 
I will take time this week to sit down and really
evaluate the track.

That Exhibitionist sampler 12 inch is definitely a buy..
I playing around mixing that with a acapella track from
the Defecto label.
TS-1

-Original Message-
From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) detroit music reviews


heya list,

i listened to a few new tunes this weekend in a record shop (be it via. 
funked up turntable and broken headphones) Here is what I thought:

Larry heard - loosefingers ep:  Brilliant. Im really on a budget right 
now, but this record was head and shoulders above everything else.   It 
is larry heards musical side. One track beats really slow, around 110 
bpm. Its lovely though, very deep house. I like his style because its 
simple musical talent sans any gimicks, very jammy feel to it without 
feeling too raw. Thats important to me, i am a big fan of theo parrish, 
bu it is nice to have a very polished sounding house jam that can match 
Theos bpms without coping theo's raw jacking style. The other track on 
the first side is considerably faster, probably around 125 bpm or 
something. And the flip is somewhere between them, I cant remember what 
it sounds like right now, but i love all three tracks.

oh and one more thing. I dont know about the rest of the vinyl buyers 
and spinners in the US, but Im sick of seeing records commonly go for 
$11.50 and $12. Luciano's single release on Peacefrog is being sold 
locally for $14  Thank you Mr. Heard, for releasing quality house music 
in the USA for the price of $7. i tip my hat to you, and please 
continue!

other stuff:

Ron Trent: ital foods space is the place:  hmm. I liked it but there 
are a few reasons i didnt pick it up. There is a vocal in there that 
says something like space...  I didnt like it because it seemed to 
have too many effects on it. the whole production seemed kind of over 
the top with everything but the kitchen sink thrown into it. its kind 
of nice, but its going for 12 dollars, and the record is two nearly 
identical versions of the same track, pass.

Dimitri from Paris: In the house limited sampler:  I listened most 
closely to the Lil Louis mix on the record. I think it was a rmx of the 
O'jays. It sounded nice, and I liked how the brass section blended in 
nicely with the vocals. I was tempted to pick it up, but i don't think 
it was his best work. however, i want to give it another listen. This 
time with a fully operational listening system and without annoying 
billy jean bass line cover  being pumped through the stores sound 
system. yuck!

new Spectral Sound label releases: First up is the matthew dear anger 
management album: good and innovative, but I like all his other 
releases on spectral sound a little bit better (especially his album 
and ep#1) He does have a knack for experimentation, especially in one 
of his tracks with what seems to be a gentle distortion building into a 
loud chaotic crashing WRRR!! Then a return to the abstract beats. Check 
it out for sure, i liked it, but i cant spend too many beans right now, 
and I can probably find it later on if i want to.
The other Spectral Sound is hieroglyphic being-machines for lovers :  
nothing special as far as i reckon, chuging beats kind of like getting 
caught in a meat grinder. i prefer a little more attention to music 
than hard noise when buying techno. not to hate or anything, but there 
isn't much i find that attracts me to this record.

these reviews are my opinions only, i always encourage everyone to 
listen for themselves.

later 313ers all the world over (from ocean to ocean -juan atkins)

-jason 



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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Steward, Tim
Talking about Old
My first was cosmic cars and afrika babbaatas looking for the perfect beat..
now I'm old I was in high school, no joke .. I have been around since the
beginning I was at the college parties when  Scratch Master Reese was
spinning
and the famous Music Institute had us dancing all night...as Derrick May was
spinning.
ok I will stop nowbut your never too old to dance...


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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:58 AM
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Subject: (313) first techno record


Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?

Mine was Inner City - Big Fun double packed with an Album of remixes. 88 ?? 

Man that makes me feel old. 

Thnks

Rav



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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Steward, Tim
(err 38) is the magic number, and I never really could dance
I just moved to the beat...

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To: 'Steward, Tim'; 313@hyperreal.org
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'cosmic cars' and the 'looking for the perfect' compilation - didn't buy
them at the time, but certainly danced to 'planet rock' when it first came
out. Were probably about the same age (err 38). 

I am too old to dance now. I feel like an embarrassing uncle, doing that
drunk dancing at weddings : ). I can still nod my head in time.

Rav 

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From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Talking about Old
My first was cosmic cars and afrika babbaatas looking for the perfect beat..
now I'm old I was in high school, no joke .. I have been around since the
beginning I was at the college parties when  Scratch Master Reese was
spinning and the famous Music Institute had us dancing all night...as
Derrick May was spinning. ok I will stop nowbut your never too old to
dance...


TS-1

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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) first techno record


Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?

Mine was Inner City - Big Fun double packed with an Album of remixes. 88 ?? 

Man that makes me feel old. 

Thnks

Rav



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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Steward, Tim
Buy-Rite was the spot I would catch 2 busses to get there and load
up on records..

Sister sledge - I recently played sister sledge and people went crazy
most had never heard the track - I played 'Lost in music' you can find
it on the sister sledge house release..

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My first ever record purchase was Eric B. and Rakim Follow The Leader LP.
Got it at Buy-Rite on 7mile.

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-- Original Message --
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You're both supercool then.
This reminds of me questionnaires that ask 'what was your first
vinyl purchase ever?'
Rock bands often say cool things like Iggy Pop and David Bowie,
but I don't believe them most of the time (but of course I believe
you guys!).
Most people's first purchase is KC  The Sunshine Band, The
Goombah Dance Band, The Chicken Song, Shakin' Stevens, Bill Ray
Cyrus -  that sort of thing.
Mine was Sister Sledge, which is kinda cool (Chic production etc)
until I tell you that it was Frankie.

should i count things my parents bought for me when i was very
young? if so things like we are the world or thriller or
culture club would be it. if you mean the first stuff i bought on
vinyl because that was the only way something was avaliable then
it would be Anti-Flag's kill the rich 7 in 1994.

tom


andythepooh.com




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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Steward, Tim
That's my old hood 6mile and VanDyke I thought I was
the only techno head to come out of that hood. 
A dj saved my life for realwhen the fights started
in the basement party I kept spinning...

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Sounds like you were on the east side of tha D. 

George Jones - Logic7
http://allways.nu
http://www.geocities.com/labwerx

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maybe I'm thinking a different neighborhood, but not even
records would get me out around 6 or 7 mile, although its
much more sedate now than 10-15 years ago IMO

I'd be lucky to get from ym car to the store and still have
my money, shoes, and jewlery (which I dont wear anyways,
but you dig)

of course if you do, you come out with records to find your
car on blocks :p
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RE: (313) Kenny Larkin @ T-funkshun, UK

2004-03-03 Thread Steward, Tim
Yo Sent!

Kenny is dropping his new cd in the beginning of April
I have not heard if he is doing a vinyl release

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From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin @ T-funkshun, UK


I am also very curious as to what mr. Larkin is dropping nowadays, 
knowing what he is up to will really help me plan my trip to the land 
of euro in about 3 weeks. somebody please chime in with information as 
to mr. larkins level of freshness.

- yankee doodle jason

Oh yeah... Incase people arent sick of hearing about Mills (ha!) he has 
two new works of art out on Axis right now. I don't know about the 
virtual Dj concept, but this actual DJ plans to rock the sheat out 
of those new releases!!


-(sent)

On Wednesday, March 3, 2004, at 04:16 AM, Sean Creen wrote:

 Has anyone heard Kenny play recently? He's playing in Dublin after the
 Kraftwerk gig in a couple of weeks and I'm wondering if he's worth 
 hanging
 around for?
 I need to get back up to Belfast to get to work the next morning and I 
 don't
 want to miss out on a night's sleep to hear someone play dull clubtrax 
 (as a
 lot of the Detroit guys seem to when they're in Europe).

 Cheers,
 Sean.

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 Sent: 03 March 2004 10:11
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 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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 yeah i'm pretty sure to be going over for this...



 robin...

 On 3 Mar 2004, at 10:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 T-FUNKSHUN 3RD BIRTHDAY
 KENNY LARKIN (Peacefrog//art of dance)

 woo-hoo, happy birthday to my scouse comrades!!
 I have secured a chain to attach my wallet on, and a padlock for my
 lacoste
 shelly, and I'm coming over...

 (only joking guys, nice one I'm looking forward to it.)

 alex

 p.s. anyone else from the list going?
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RE: (313) Boss 550 mk 2

2004-03-03 Thread Steward, Tim
You can try
the site www.keyboardmuseum.org they have old manuals



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Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:35 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: (313) Boss 550 mk 2


I have a Boss 550 mk 2 drum machine and am lookinf for some high quality
scans of the instruction manual, or a PDF will work fine too.  Does anyone
have one or know where I can find it on-line???

Peace

Jeff



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