Re: Detroit sampled in contemporary music
replying to my own post (from october '21) was listening to the latest jpegmafia album (https://jpegmafia.bandcamp.com/album/scaring-the-hoes) and behold: another song where he's using a detroit classic: 'cosmic raindance' this time on 'run the jewels' (https://jpegmafia.bandcamp.com/track/run-the-jewels). jurren From: baars Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 10:30 AM We've had 'Baby's got back', Fedde le Grand, Missy and now JPEGMAFIA. Was listening to his new album this morning (still not sure if i like his music or not) and heard "Are You Happy?" and i am sure i have heard those words before: https://open.spotify.com/track/5zChKVq8kdnWWPbVWezFW8?si=b98c058bcaba4a3d Don't know if it is a sample (i think so, slowed down) and/or if the words are originally from UR or if the words came from somewhere else before, but nice to see some Detroit influence and maybe one or two people listening to this version seek out the original and end up checking the entire UR back catalogue.
(313) demf/movement sets 2007 online
don't think this got mentioned before, but i just thought i'd check if any more of last years sets had been added to the demf website, and found that now all (?) of last years sets are available. i think you can only listen through an embedded player, but i bet there are some less-technically-disabled people than me on this list that might be able to post links to the mp3(?)sources of these files. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) what's in today's bag
in the bag of the postman today (and a couple of days ago): newworldaquarium - the dead bears cd [nwaq/delsin] :::.. a kind gift, thoroughly enjoyed listening to it almost everyday .. on the train to and from work this week. kirk degiorgio - i do not excist [b12] ..:::. it looks great! (not had the time to listen yet...) datahata - itinerant craft [frequeNC] jjak hogan 12 [frequeNC] bass invadurrz 12 [frequeNC] ::.:.. woohoo! no idea what tracks/songs are included, but looking ..::.: forward to having a listen to these tonight. thanks stinki for :.. including them in your years-end-list. enjoy your weekend everyone! _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
(313) Re: Shelf system/record storage
Benoît wrote: The only thing is that once mounted any IKEA stuff should stay in that form even while moving it. Unmounting kills ! another expedit 5x5 owner here. i've moved twice in the past year and a half, and have taken the expedit apart both times. You can easily reassemble the shelves after taking them apart. Just make sure they don't get damaged too much during transport and everything should be ok. jurren _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) let's make a year end list!
JT Stewart wrote: 17. bass invadurrz - invasion (frequeNC) is that out yet? the site http://www.frequenc.net seems to be down at the moment so i can not check/order. all things jjak hogan related rate high in my year end list. thanks for mentioning him on cbs a year ago stinki! haven't bought much records this year, the things that did grab me were mostly in the same vein as the jjak hogan material: rustie beat dimensions. further, both juju jordash releases on real soon are nice, as is 'rox' off the nwaq 12 on delsin (haven't had the time yet to really listen to the lp). ruff draft rerelease, kevin reynold on todchai 12, quince 'sole trader'. that's all i can remember record-wise(with a bit of help from the weekly new records thread on disception), have yet to install my turntable after having moved house 2 months ago... 2007 was mostly memorable to me for non-music-related events: started a new job (well, started at another office..), bought a house together with my girlfriend, whom also gave birth to our daughter a couple of weeks ago. jurren _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
(313) interview + liveset Quince [delsin]
found this posted on some dutch musicsite: http://www.djbroadcast.nl/podcast/DJBLivecast/DJBLivecast-Quince.mp3 and i also spotted a newish mix on the delsin.site for this summer, don't remember marsel posting that here (he probably did, but it's a nice mix so it doesn't hurt getting mentioned a 2nd time). http://www.delsin.org/audio/DelsinNewSeasonMixSummer2007.mp3 jurren _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
Re: (313) Shake
paul mouser wrote: is there any of shakes mixes online for streaming or free downloads? i know of three mixes that were at one point available on the interweb, none of these mixes - to my knowledge - are now still available, unless you can find someone that has stored these mixes on his/her computer. these mixes are: - a two hour mix from a black nation records party in kalamazoo (used to be available on the black nation website) - shake's mix at the first demf, approx an hour and a half (used to be available on groovetech.com) - recording from a party in paris, france: paradise massage (used to be available on d-i-r-t-y.org or .net) i hope someone still has that bnr mix! _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
RE: (313) Shake
Robert Taylor wrote: Just found this: http://mixesdb.com/db/index.php/2007-05-04_-_Anthony_%27Shake%27_Shakir_ %40_La_Boum_Deluxe%2C_FM4 great thanks! doing a google-search for anthony shakir la boum deluxe also provided me with links to downloads of another mix: anthony shakir at rote sonne. _ Play online games with your friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
(313) shameless request
with the festival around the corner and the memory of posts on availability of s.i.d.'s at submerge a year ago still fresh in my memory, i have a request. if anyone visiting submerge has $20 spare change in their pockets and sees a copy of sid 1 and/or sid 3 for sale, could they buy me a copy? i'd be eternally grateful and even open a myspace page and make them my friend! jurren _ Talk with your online friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
Re: (313) shameless request
oops, just noticed a typo. its s.i.d. #1 and s.i.d. #5 i'm looking for. was at the festival in 2001 and back then these weren't available. i will of course cover the costs of record(s) + postage and will even add a moxie t-shirt and a drawing of a fish on an old piece of paper. with the festival around the corner and the memory of posts on availability of s.i.d.'s at submerge a year ago still fresh in my memory, i have a request. if anyone visiting submerge has $20 spare change in their pockets and sees a copy of sid 1 and/or sid 3 for sale, could they buy me a copy? i'd be eternally grateful and even open a myspace page and make them my friend! jurren _ Play online games with your friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
(313) loads of mixes from the early 90ies
found a link to this site yesterday: http://www.oldschooldjsets.nl/ the site mainly focusses on early 90ies dutch house music. an archive of tapes from a radioshow hosted by robin 'jay dee' albers, live recordings from house club 'chemistry' and so forth. 313 content: a tape from derrick may @ roxy, c2 @ chemistry and more here's a link to a mix by claude young done in '96 for a dutch radioshow before playing at hotel arena in amsterdam and winkel van sinkel in utrecht: http://www24.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dlfilepath=3468 enjoy! _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new Windows Live Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: (313) loads of mixes from the early 90ies
richard cranston wrote: speaking of old school dutch sets - i've never been able to find mixes from Orlando Voorn. I hear he used to be a DMC champion and always used to pay out on djs who beat mix without doing anything else...his own productions are pretty cool too. Can anyone hook me up with some links? there's an orlando voorn mix on that page he did for the radio show for those who like to groove his name is somewhere in that list to the right. http://www.oldschooldjsets.nl/index%20FTWLTG.htm 11.07.1992 - Orlando Voorn 00. Rhythim Is Rhythim - Beyond The Dance 01. Speedy J - Minimal 02. Jambo! - Drumattack 03. Sven Van Hees - Emotional Rehabilitation 04. Jam Spoon - Stella (Original Mix) 05. Injection - Delicious / I Don't Need It 06. Pure Impulse Project - Yazzid 07. ID 08. Disco Elements - What The Papers Said (Dub) 09. KC Flightt - Voices (Original Mix) 10. Martin Circus - Disco Circus 11. Todd Terry presents Sound Design - Found Romance 12. Reese - Bassline 13. Nico - Field Of Vision 14. 2000 One - Line Dimension 15. Inner City - Pennies From Heaven (Reese Dream-A-Lot Mix) 16. House 2 House - Have What You Want 17. ID 18. ID 19. Lil' Louis The World - Club Lonely (Not On The List Instrumental) 20. Frequency - Systematic Input _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
Re: (313) Convextion - Miranda
J.T. wrote a couple of months ago (Oct 18, 2006) regarding the rerelease of convextion - miranda: If the matrix release doesn't go forward -- or perhaps before it goes forward -- there will be a re-release on down low with only the original track and a new track, mastered at dm, just 300 copies or so. I kinda like this idea since tho it would be a re-release, the re-release would be even more rare, both old and new versions would be special..but we'll see what happens. just dug this old mail up to ask a question. will 'miranda' be rereleased through downlow or will it only be rereleased through matrix? pre-orders on the matrix rerelease are huge from wat i've heard, so i should probably preorder it now. on the other hand i'd rather not buy a 2x12 when i can get the same track on a 12 especially when the 12 is a really good pressing. jurren _ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/services
RE: (313) jamal moss remix
J to the T wrote: i take it jamal's mix is the 326 mix? is that a chi area code? or a sendoff to the old 3.2.6. records on muzique and dancemania (which are deffo up jamal's alley)? 326 (usually, in the chicago house community) refers to one of the old addresses the muzic box was located at one point (326 Lower Michigan Ave). People on DHP messageboard are always discussing what location was best/where did ron hardy beat the box hardest/etc. jurren _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
(313) thom yorke
just saw this posted on Lil' D: http://www.xlrecordings.com/theeraser/audio/the_clock_surgeon_remix.mp3 http://www.xlrecordings.com/theeraser/audio/analyse_various_remix.mp3 there's also a CASAMENA remix of 'the clock' going around that gets raving reviews on the deephousepage. not heard any of the remixes (yet) and imho the songs don't need remixes, but i'm interested to hear the results none the less. i quite like the originals and recommend people that have bought the album to check the 12s as well. b-sides are ac! here's a clip from 'iluvya' http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF241620-01-02-02.mp3 b-side to 'analyse') _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
(313) top 10 of 2006
it's that time of the year where everyone posts their favorite records for the year has almost ended, innit? it was not too hard for me to compile a top 10, as i've not bought (much) more than 10 new releases this year... unfortunately i just don't find the time anymore to spend in recordstores checking the new releases out (not even had the chance to check that convextion lp). curious to see what other people consider to be their favorite records released this year. here are the ones i can think of: quinn - no more words [delsin] yoav b - language of an open heart [delsin] nubian mindz - typewriter [delsin] iken - aspects [real soon] thom yorke - the drunkk machine [xl] shawn j period - the come back [rude movements] rekid - 85 space/rectroactive [soul jazz] j dilla - donuts lp [stones throw] aloe blacc - about love (remix) [stones throw] reissue: psyche/bfc [ART] _ Play online games with your friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
Re: (313) top 10 of 2006
Jari Tolkkinen added: This sounds good. Maybe some kind of voting system might be in order aswell (links to music clips from Juno etc etc. Ok I got carried away :) soundclips is are a good idea, here are links to my favorites: quinn - no more words [delsin] http://nomorewords.net/index.php?id=42 yoav b - language of an open heart [delsin] http://nomorewords.net/index.php?id=43 nubian mindz - typewriter [delsin] http://nomorewords.net/index.php?id=122 iken - aspects [real soon] http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/210811-01.htmhighlight=iken thom yorke - the drunkk machine [xl] http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/231638-02.htmhighlight=thom%20yorke shawn j period - the come back [rude movements] http://www.ifmusic.co.uk/catalog/product.php?products_id=4168 rekid - 85 space/rectroactive [soul jazz] http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/214331-01.htmhighlight=rekid j dilla - donuts lp [stones throw] http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/206370-02.htmhighlight=donuts aloe blacc - about love (remix) [stones throw] http://music.rushhour.nl/shop/36313.mp3 _ Play online games with your friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
(313) just 7 more weeks this friday...
http://nomorewords.net/index.php?id=136 can't wait. _ Talk with your online friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
Re: (313) the reactable
fab. wrote: The Reactable, a glimpse of the future? The reactable, is a multi-user electronic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface. Several simultaneous performers share complete control over the instrument by moving physical objects on a luminous table surface. http://youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc looks awesome. excellent well thought out design. makes controlling the synth easier accessible to anyone, as it makes it visible what exactly you are doing by twisting knobs and pushing buttons. jurren _ Play online games with your friends with Messenger http://www.join.msn.com/messenger/overview
(313) patrice scott
just spotted this on juno: http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/242500-01.htmhighlight=sistrum new record from detroit, from a (to me) unknown artist: patrice scott _ Live Search, for accurate results! http://www.live.nl
(313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term techno soul (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term high tech soul has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night hi-tech soul movement. at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's landcruising lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren
Re: (313) gary's gang :lets love dance tonight
ed612313 wrote: and another one I know very little about except ive heard dj genesis (on her first mix cd), norman jay and TP play it numerous times. Very housy, upbeat, vocal track. Vocals are here comes the sun I love the sunnn I know thats an extremely average description but its all i got :) Reading it back to myself - Pathetic a wild guess: shaun escoffery - days like this
Re: (313) More records.
i hardly have the time to shop for records anymore, but i had a day off last tuesday and here are two records i bought that have not yet been mentioned: thom yorke - the eraser lp [xl] nice, nothing that instantly grabbed me, but i've thusfar only quickly skipped through it. i look forward to listening to it in full. aloe blacc - about love 7 [stones throw] i love (some) of aloe blacc's work. loved his first 12 on stones throw (want me/arrive) but didn' really feel teh emanon lp, or his last 12. this 7 however hits the spot again. jurren
(313) Delsin Salsa Plates
just spotted this on nomorewords.net: http://nomorewords.net/index.php?id=127 jurren
Re: (313) Matt Edwards aka Rekid (was: nice stuff)
On 6/4/06, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:...not minimal to my ears, either: http://www.discogs.com/release/687844 (and I'm not an antiminimalist. I like atoms.) didn't buy above mentioned lp (...yet, i may eventually buy it for arp) but i did buy the 85space/retroactive 12that comes off the album. and i'm still looking for a copy of his lost star 12 on classic. also quite dig his quiet village records. anything else that's a must have? some of the pseudonyms on discogs are unfamiliar to me: dj maxxi, matthew e, trendroid??? jurren
Re: (313) 313 tattoos?
fab. wrote: since spring is just around the corner here i started thinking about some new tattoos for this year and i thought that all the Drexciyian iconography would be pretty cool, especially in the new school style of artists like adrian lee (if anyone knows how that is ;) i was wondering if anyone here has any 313 or techno related tattoos.. some dutch guy has this picture tattood on one of his arms: http://www.discogs.com/image/R-2121-1130949121.jpeg a couple of years ago i used to see this guy at just about any detroit related party organised in holland, haven't seen him about anywhere lately. than again, that's no surprise as i hardly attend parties anymore myself. saw part of reclooses live show on friday, fantastic. they played some of his own songs, but also loads of covers (james mason sweet power...). if this show hits your town make sure you attend! jurren
Re: (313) Musicology 12s
therealmxyzptlk wrote: I can't help wondering if the B12 crew is behind them. I've heard stories of Steve Pickton booting his old 12s himself - dunno how true they are, but I do know I bought 2 or 3 Likeminds from the man himself a few years ago. And there's not been a shortage of Interim/Outerim and the ART/B12 split over the past few years either. i posted a question on these records on the discogs forum as soon as i saw these records appear on various recordstore mail-outs [ http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=89454 ]. as i was curious to see if these were legit represses, and anyone had any info on them. more so because i had seen a post on B12 on discogs just that week, in which new shows were announced. Steve from B12 claimed these were definately bootlegs. he also stated he liked the idea of doing a repress himself. of course this may just as well be a person unrelated to B12, that thought i'd be funny to impersonate Steve. according to this thread http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=88816 B12 as redcell are about to release some new material on a UK label: Seed Records. jurren
(313) theo parrish at the red bull music academy
most of you will probably have allready spotted this, but there is now a video up on http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com of theo parrish's lecture during this year's red bull music academy. it is supposed to be an interesting lecture (can't comment myself, as i only get to see the video, somehow audio doesn't work...) so enjoy. jurren
(313) nice party in detroit 4th of february
3 chairs (live) at contemporary arts institute of detroit http://myspace-320.vo.llnwd.net/00452/02/39/452919320_l.jpg http://myspace-897.vo.llnwd.net/00452/79/87/452917897_l.jpg
(313) theo parrish mix
just spotted this on the 4hero messageboard, dunno if it was posted here before: http://www.oseao.com/shows/offworld/index.html jurren
RE: (313) MORGAN GEIST, DJ HARVEY, KIRK DEGIORGIO WAAJEED!
Carlos de Brito wrote: there are a few more: http://www.odeo.com/channel/34541/view and i heard the lecture with theo parrish will be up there soon, too. nice, i see (from the pictures taken from the interview) that he's interviewed by Gerd Janson (Running back records). who's done a really nice interview with theo a couple of years ago here: http://www.ouk.de/issue_33/theo_parrish.html (in german only i'm afraid) and that ArRange event looks very promising, i hope they put that up for us non-attendées to the event as well. jurren
(313) waajeed - universal language mix-cd
anyone have this? what's it like? tracklist? where can i still find a copy? been curious after ever since i read: Mixed by Wajeed from Platinum Pied Pipers, Universal is, in Wajeed's words full of goodies I've collected from friends and fellow weirdos who dig this Kraftwerk/Detroit techno- influenced geek music.
(313) kenny larkin reissues
from the rushhour mail-out: KENNY LARKIN PRESENTS POD - VANGUARD EP - RUSHHOUR EU12'' - RH 104 - 33164 - 7,90 Rush Hour is proud to present this co-op with Kenny Larkin/Art Of Dance to release the best of his catalogue. Kennny has recorded many classics on different labels under monnikers. Rush Hour has picked, what they think are, the best tracks he made. These will be released on 5 different 12s and a compilation CD over the next 6 months. The first 12 is a best of his POD recorded material, which was released on the Belgian Buzz label in 1992. 4 tracks have been selected, which have been remastered by Dexter. Classic, deep and emotional are key words to describe this pure Detroit techno release. Artwork comes courtesy of Delta Inc. Tracklisting: Myopsis (Dark Comedy mix), Vanguard, Lifeforms Northern Light. Out next week! great news! :-)
(313) new terrence dixon
i know i'm not the only person on here that was anxiously awaiting new material by this man, and i noticed this one on juno: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/197975-01.htm jurren
RE: (313) Joe Lewis (Or Louis) (was Frank de Wulf)
alex.bond wrote: If someone comes to you with a cd/tape full of music that they want to release, would you question it? I know I wouldn't. How would you go about asking anyway? pretty awkward situation really. I think, as most people would, the thought that it wasn't even their music just wouldn't really enter in your head. or it wouldn't mine anyway. i probably wouldn't question it either, but i think you should. if only to make sure you will never be held liable for copyright infringement. i assume peacefrog, when signing joe lewis, had him sign a contract in which joe states that he owns the copyrights to the material he provides to the label for release, and that none of the works infringe on the copyrights of others. that way you don't have to ask him if he made the tracks himself, but if it turns out he didn't, it will be much easier to direct the real copyright- owner to the actual infringing party (here: (supposedly) joe lewis). further, you can probably even claim damages from joe lewis in that case, based on breach of contract (which may enable you to release the same album with new artwork, giving credit to: 10th planet - the exit of joe lewis...). jurren
(313) when in rome...
... where to stay? ... what to do? i'm going to visit rome for the first time from december 30 to january 6. anyone know of good (not too expensive) hotels, nice restaurants, recordstores, etc.? i would also love to know of any events NYE worth visiting while i'm there. not necessarily techno, preferably more house/hiphop/soul as i'm going with my girl who prefers to hear different musical styles rather than some loop that goes on for 4 hours and hardly changes (her words). jurren
Re: (313) But can they sing?
Ian Malbon wrote: Clearly there has been a move by many producers to incorporate more vocals in techno and related genres (Diva-house has always been an exception). I remember thinking this was going to become a trend when Juan dropped The Flow. Some, like Recloose, employ guest vocals, and others, like Jeremy Ellis, handle the task themselves. First, what's your general reaction to vocal tracks? And does it bother you when some of these vocalists can't quite cut it? i mostly listen to the vocals as another instrument. so the tone of the vocal in relation to the rest of the track is way more important than what is sung, and even the quality of the singing. i can imagine loving a track i which the singing is actually quite bad, but where it works in connection with the rest of the music (joe lewis 'midnight dancing' comes to mind). terry brookes 'breaking cycles' is a vocal techno track i love, the new terry brookes vocal track however the vocal didn't work for me. though the quality of the vocals on this new track are probably better than on breaking cycles.
RE: (313) right now
Benoît Pueyo wrote: is that movie (La Haine) famous outside France?? its a nice one though Assassin(s) is better imo in the weird meaning not seen Assassin(s) yet. how's the music in that movie? has Kassovitz produced anything since? jurren (who prefers the music in 'Metisse' to the music used in 'La Haine') listening: maria bethania - ao vivo lp drinking: nothing eating: nothing thinking: what shall i listen to now?
RE: (313) Ghost of 313's past...
Lance wrote: Currently enjoying... - Strand - Viet EP (City Centre Offices Block 31 12) a new release by strand, how could i have missed that? jurren (off to google, typing: strand city centre)
RE: (313) Ghost of 313's past...
and back from google (or boomkat to be more precise) http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=17404 so strand is not strand... but someone from spain. sounds nice anyway though :-)
RE: (313) Extreme Pitch mix
Joost P wrote: Hi All, this is a new mix I recorded on the weekend: http://tinyurl.com/b87xx (after download just rename it to mp3, it's not a zip file) i have finally bought myself a computer, and even bought an mp3 player along with it, so right now i'm downloading mixes left and right, including this one. listened to the first half of your mix on the way to work this morning Joost, and really enjoyed it! btw, that dj bone mix is heat aswell!
RE: (313) What Do We Think Of This? ( DJ Mag Poll)
a late reply to the (short) discussion from last friday on DJ mag's top-100 poll, because i think it is an interesting subject. i agree with the retro-vert mailing posted by ken and what dr. dog posted earlier. 1. yes, the dj mag top 100 is utter crap, and i don't care who's in it or not, and who's made the top 5; 2. however, it's a fact that the vast majority of the public that pays for tickets to events or clubnights does care about the top 100; 3. therefore promotors care about who's made the list and who hasn't (and they therefore will also care about who hasn't made the list, or who's fallen off the list); 4. therefore the vast majority of events and clubnights will pay money to book someone who's made the list, and will not book someone who isn't popular with those people that bring in the money (which in the case of events are not only the visitors, but more importantly companies that would like to use an event to advertise their products); 5. this will reduce the number of bookings for 'unpopular' dj's, the exposure of these musical styles in magazines, etc. so i think you should ask yourself whether or not you think this is good for 'unpopular' music. who will benefit from a decrease in exposure? we have talked about sales in techno going down, and the bad financial times that have allready meant the end of big shops and distributors. small labels are struggeling, and we moan about some of our dj hero's playing sets adjusted to their audience (stacey pullen) just to be able to earn a living. what would be the effect if for instance derrick may, laurent garnier and dj bone made up the top 3 in the next DJ mag top-100? i don't have the answers to these questions, but i think it would be an interesting subject to discuss. jurren
Re: (313) music
Marsel wrote: purchased some new recs yesterday c2 mix of laurent garnier ss023 - first theo parrish purcahse for me since. only heard short clips online thusfar, and apart from that i haven't bought much new things myself recently. only new things i've heard and really liked recently were: Keith Worthy Malik Alston - Ecoutez [Still Music / In The Dark LP] Todd 'n Tadd - Analogue Acid Project [TNT] and an oldy: Nu Era - Stars [SSR] oh, and a record Guy pointed out on LD: Rod Lee - Dance My Pain Away
(313) test
is it me or is traffic on 3 1 3 e x t r e m e l y sl o w ?
Re: (313) Jay Dee
Leslie Rollins wrote: On a related note...did Jay Dee ever release more CDs like http://www.discogs.com/release/99759 ? I had heard that he was planning on self-releasing several CDs worth of his instrumentals...anyone have details? check http://www.bling47.com from the same site: Just a reminder to keep a look out for the new Triple 5 Soul Promo Mix CD, Universal Language, compiled by Waajeed, which will go into circulation in July. The cd pays tribute to Kraftwerk and Detroit's early techno pioneers and also features Waajeed's re-edit of Marvin Gaye's I Want You that has been making a lot of noise lately. sounds interesting! jurren
Re: (313) Friday Top 5.....
things that haven't been off my record player all week. i haven't been home too much this past week, as a matter of fact these are all the records/tracks i have played/listened to this week: Judy Roberts Band LP - A1 Never Knew Love LTG Exchange - Waterbed Stopp - I'm Hungry Azymuth - Aguia Nao Come Mosca LP - B1 Tamborim, Cuica, Ganza e Berimbau DJ Gregory - Head Talking Quasimoto - Further Adventures Of Lord Quas LP - sides CD Gilberto Gil - Realce LP - side B
RE: (313) mess i made
Maarten Baute wrote: I noticed that the rotating assembly's mess i made (appears on the natural aspirations album) is a cover of a song originally written by ltg exchange (listen here: http://music.rushhour.nl/shop/31185.mp3). I didn't notice any credits on the vinyl sleeve of the natural aspirations album. That makes it stealing, right? I thought that when covering a song, you always should mention the original composer. Jurren? stealing isn't really the right word, but if you use someone elses composition, you will need approval of the composer (assuming the composer still owns the rights to the composition) to perform or record the performance of the composition. i don't know if the rotating assembly has received permission to cover the song. under Dutch law the composer is entitled to being credited as the author of the composition (article 25 Dutch Copyright Act). so it is up to the composer to decide whether or not he/she wants to be credited. (not mentioning the original composer is ok as long as the composer does not complain). dunno if it is the same way in the USA. jurren
Re: (313) Hello 313, I am....
name: Jurren Baars age: 30 live: Utrecht (yes, the city where some of the hardest ravers of the planets come from...) born: Enschede (the new Grolsch brewery is built where my old house used to be) got into electronic music around 1993. taste influenced by: listening to the steve mason experience in the early '90ies; live broadcasts of chemistry clubnights in the mid '90ies; hearing claude young in utrecht '97; hearing shake in utrecht '98?; buying records at rushhour; demf2000 through groovetech; theo parrish mixcd's; deephousepage.com archive; and... 313-list.
RE: (313) better link to my mix
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: http://www.cornwarning.com/pipecock/ this one even has a picture! is that at the Shorecrest?
Re: (313) Planet-E Bootlegs?
Joost P wrote: ... it's counterfeiting. absolutely true, and where counterfeit watches and bags are still relatively easy to recognise, recognising a 'fake' intergallactic beats lp on ebay is a lot harder. (ever notice how many people tried to cash in on the repress of '4jazzfunkclassics' on ebay, selling it as 'rare/hard to find'?) For Rolex and LV I can understand it's difficult to find the culprits. But for Carl, Derrick and all the others who have been ripped off by these crooks, it should be quite a lot easier. They know exactly who they are And it's not that they're so p*ss poor they can't afford a lawyer are they? Especially when it's such a clear case theyre going to win. So why they haven't done anything yet is beyond me. Let's hope it's only a matter of time. 1) i don't think it is that much harder for rolex etc to find out who are behind the 'fake' watches, than it is to c2 and co. to find out who's behind those bootlegs. the biggest problem will be to gather evidence that clearly shows who is responsible for producing these bootlegs. without clear evidence, they have no case! 2) like dave allready pointed out, thusfar they have only bootlegged defunkt labels: phierce city, incognito, buzz; or compilations: panic in detroit, carl craig remixes, it is therefore more than likely that either the owners to the copyright no longer have interest in these records, or there are multiple owners to the copyrights on the records, all of which makes it more difficult to take action. further, all you will achieve is that they'll have to cease production/sales of the records they have bootlegged. as soon as they decide to bootleg something else, the sh:t just starts all over again. and the compensation or damages you will/may receive are slim compared to the costs you'll have to make. btw piracy (counterfeit) is considered one of the largest industries of today. the us government even suspects that al-quada and other terrorist organisations get their funding from piracy, as drugs are becoming more and more hard to ship/trade. counterfeit and piracy are estimated to represent 5 to 7 % of the total trade in the world. [source: http://europa.eu.int/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l26057.htm ] jurren
Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEENBOOTLEGGED,BURN THE BOOTLE
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: so here's whats really interesting to me. i know how the economics of pressing records works, it usually requires selling a pretty large amount of records before you break even, and thats even when youre using tracks that you arent paying the artist for. since these guys need to pay for the mastering and plating and sh*t, are they really making much if any money? and if youre bootlegging and not making money, is that as criminal? especially if youre going to the lengths that HTFR (if theyre definitely the ones at fault here..) and having color sleeves and whatnot made, you really cant be making too much profit. well, let's take a look at it from a purely economic perspective. investors (here bootleggers) will base their investment on the likelyhood of return of their investment, or the possible size of the profit. regarding the bootleg of records a couple of factors are relevant: - mastering and pressing of records is expensive; - in general sales of records is going down-hill. i think it is therefore safe to say that the profit margin on these bootlegs is huge. so yes, bootlegging is a crime. the only reason they can get away with it is because the costs of litigation are too high for the artists/labels getting bootlegged. now to the bootleggers that do that little extra to make the records look real... the bootlegs are still easily recognisable, as they are still new as opposed to those records that were released 10, 20 or 30 years ago. but all they do is look the same, the sound quality on most is horrible! so in a year or two you'll be digging through the second-hand bins and come across a copy of relics for $10! woohoo, you spend your hard earned cash on the record, take it home, and find out it is the bootleg, they sounds terrible. i have allready bought that panic in detroit lp that way. and believe me, you feel pretty bad if you've decided not to buy the bootleg because a) you oppose to bootlegging , and b) you've heard reliable reports that the soundquality suques, and then end up with a bootleg, because it looks just like the real deal. jurren
RE: (313) Quest for da Booty
i quite like some booty aswell. can understand the mixed feelings though, but as english is not my native language, i tend not to pay much attention to lyrics anyway. my favorite track of the last couple of months is: aloe blacc - arrive [stones throw] only noticed that the lyrics were quite explicit when i listened to it for the 30th time, and by than i was allready singing along to the whole song... my favorite booty: mr de' - woodward ave dj assault - b#tch i ain't your boyfriend dj assault - dick ride detroit grand pubahs - ride
Re: (313) terrace is back !!!
Maarten Baute wrote: Also, I am digging the sun god's relics artifacts track, I just wonder what synth he is using on that track. It sounds like the synth Larry Heard used on his early Mr. Fingers and Fingers inc. projects. to be honest, i'm starting to feel that a lot of the output by mr. moss is starting to sound alike. i think there was one defying moment in his musical development, and that was when he first heard farley jackmaster funk play 'washing machine' in reverse. not that i have a problem with that though!
(313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order?
Re: (313) iPod DJ
listening: i was listening to someone vacuuming the office, until martin posted that los hermanos mix :-) eating: nothing, just finished an apple (granny smith) drinking: water thinking: hûh? now back to this agreement i have to check to see if all the IP related sections are dealt with.
Re: (313) Whatever happened to.........
robin wrote: that's coincidence. recently become aware of his work (via a djyoavb mix). like the spoken vocals. in that case also check out: mr. hazeltine - the pressure [plug research] http://www.discogs.com/release/123303 has similar vocals as the 'breaking cycles' track by mr. brookes jurren (who's still a bit puzzled by the flyer he just saw for an upcoming recordtime party...)
Re: (313) Now Playing
atomly wrote: eating: a mediocre salad across the street wow, does that mean you are in two places at the same time? jurren
Re: (313) new records
just one new record for me the past few weeks (apart from the allready mentioned 'berlin sessions') and it is: skugge stavostrand - grans [onitor 41] one dubby techno track, one sort of luciano track and one a bit more techy, and one more thing. i like it. re: 100% pure new releases. the madskilz 12 probably gets played quite a bit by derrick may, the kind of tribal techno i associate with what derrick sometimes plays, nice but not mindblowing. oh and yoav b has put soundclips up of his upcoming release on wabisabi on the deephousepage.com messageboard. the title track sounds nice, need to hear the rest in full before i make up my mind though, not as good as the first release is my first thought. jurren
Re: (313) Slowing down (was Stasis)
i want some slower techno tracks aswell, 100 bpm techno like drexciya's 'davey jones' locker' but i also want more 140-150 bpm house/techno (not just looped bangers) and i want more 110-120 bpm hiphop!! hiphop has gone through the opposite development techno has. most of the early hiphop was around 120 bpm, if not faster. in the late 80ies hiphop was around 110 bpm, and now most of it is 90-95 bpm. jurren np greg wilson's jazzfunk mix on djhistory.com (26 minutes into the mix: h, gilberto gil :) can't wait for summer to start!!! gilberto gil is now brasil's minister of culture btw) http://www.djhistorymixarchive.com/mixes/djhistmixo12.mp3
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154! i think he did vocals on one of those aardvarck (non)spoken 12s, the 7 that came with the original 12 to be exact, here it is: http://www.discogs.com/release/96373 jurren
Re: (313) blackheartdisco mixtape
oow! what are the two tracks between pam todd and theo parrish? 15:30 - 19:30 ???
Re: (313) mix WNUR chicago - 25 Feb 2005 - Detroit techno tag-team
sorry if this comes through twice, but my hotmail account told me something went wrong, so i'm trying again. Matt MacQueen wrote: untitled - FRCT 003 promo (Frictional) so this does excist! will listen to the mix later today (or whenever i get the chance) when was this released? will it ever get a full release? if not, why not? jurren (who needs more frictional releases)
(313) shake last night
a short report of last night, to let those that missed it know what they missed ;) marsel threw a little party last night in amsterdam, and he brought shake over to play a couple of records. only heard shake dj once before a couple of years ago (utrecht '97 ?) so i was really looking forward to it. woke up with the worst hangover in years though, so i spent most of the day recovering from the night before, but finally found the energy to catch the train around 10 pm. walked into the venue round 12, where the party just started to take off, shake was allready playing and the dancefloor slowely started to fill up. so what did mr shakir play i hear all of you think. what i can remember: mmm 'donna', snoop 'drop it like its hot' (45 rpm!), club scam 2 (both 'floor filler' and 'plugged in'), 'fact of the matter' :D , talkin heads 'once in a lifetime' (c2 edit?), first choice 'let no man put asunder' edit, krikor 'peeping tom', radiohead 'idioteque' and finished with pepe braddock 'burnin'. i think i heard some soundhack sorta style tracks come by, and some more disco and some italo (sounded like italo, dunno what it was though) and some more of his own work. all in all a great night, spoke to a couple of people i hadn't seen/spoken to in a long time, and didn't even get too drunk :) so thank you mr shakir for last nights soundtrack, and thank you marsel for bringing him over! jurren
Re: (313) second best
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: just listening prefuse 73' second album, one word.. as well carl craig's second album, more songs.. is it true, scientificly proved, that artists second albums are always their best? and if so? why make a third? and why don't publish two at one time? or skip the first one? didn't carl record more songs... first, but release landcruising first as he still had a contract with ??? (forgot the label) i'm sure i've read this somewhere in an interview once, think it was an old interview on your old site marsel. jurren
Re: (313) shake mix another ID
Another Track ID on this great diverse shake mix, At 28 minutes. it's got that midwest quirky melodic techno sound ala dan curtin or titonton, but with crowd pleasing soulful lyrics I've been searching for you, so very long. Thank you kindly. from memory: heidelberg project - searchin' [dis house] http://www.discogs.com/release/135758
(313) mark kinchen about to return?
just saw this thread on the dhp messageboard: http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=003565 that should be good news to some people here :)
(313) test (please delete, and don't read!)
couldn't resist eh? tried to mail to the list twice this past week neither of my posts got through...
Re: (313) secret theo track?
that would be this release: http://www.discogs.com/release/90673 website: http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/ robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website that featured a new track by this guy think it was called something like 'november' so chances are something new is comming out someday. jurren
Re: (313) secret theo track?
robin replied: I wrote: http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/ robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website that featured a new track by this guy think it was called something like 'november' so chances are something new is coming out someday. november sky was the track. i'm sure there are three dfas tho aren't there? DFA - the james murphy, death from above people DFA - surveillance recordings The DFA - these people: http://www.discogs.com/artist/DFA,+The+(2) i suspect november sky is the last lot according to omar it was by the dfa guy that also did 'Microstructural Characterization' he got the 'november sky' directly from him, so.. that first dfa 'Microstructural Characterization' sounded to me, a lot like detroit escalator co. when i first heard it. jurren
(313) exeem
spyware free version: http://www.exlite.net/
Re: (313) Digable Planets (was: Amp Fiddler in Sydney)
Michael.Elliot-Knight wrote: On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... from http://www.kindred-spirits.nl http://www.kindred-spirits.nl/images/upload/nieuws2/nieuws2_6.jpg jurren
Re: (313) more discogs on crack
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: yadda, yadda, yaddait was rejected with a single comment from someone called mayday: Metro Area sound nothing like Italio Disco. WTF are these people smoking? lol he should listen to a couple of metro area records, and than: http://www.discogs.com/release/220522 [nexus - stand up (mr. disc organisation)] and than make that claim again, and feel truly stupid. re: playhouse [tristan's comment on the new lowtec] tristan have you picked up that max mohr - trickmixer 12? very nice, (chicago) house sounding a bit off, in a good way jurren _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) Fix004
Martin wrote: i thought the first two were great but fix003 (the human league re-edit) was just ok What??? Which Track did they do? Martin PS: I've just spent a sh1tload on rekkids :) that's this record martin: http://www.discogs.com/release/255454 so what did you buy? were the theo/kdj pointers usefull? curious _ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
what i think plays an important role in the decline of 313-techno being discussed on this list compared to, say 4 or 5 years ago, are a couple of factors: 1. most people now subscribed have been on this list for a long time, and have allready heard/read all the who is drexciya threads etc. so once a question pops up, it either gets answered quickly, or it passes everyones attention, as it seems irrelevant. 2. the knowledge available outside of the list has grown enormously. was the 313-list one of the few places to get information on drexciya, s.i.d., retroactive records or santonio echols, nowadays a google search will provide you with information, where a couple of years ago all you got was a link to a recordstore when typing drexciya into google. 3. if you go back to the '94 archives, and up to the late 90ies, a lot of information is shared on the period from '86-'94. all this information is now common knowledge, so it doesn't get discussed anymore, whereas a couple of years ago it made up for 20% or so of the total information flow on the 313-list. 4. and perhaps not as much techno is coming from detroit as it was a decade ago, where the rest of the world has caught up. all these factors combined, result in a decrease of on topic posts. jurren (who forgot to add orgue electrique's 'texas brooklyn heaven' on creme to his best of 2004 list) _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) top ten
here's what i could think of, with a lil' help from discogs: jneiro jarel - black cinderella [kindred spirits] heavy - heavy [kindred spirits] juan atkins - fast forward [new religion] luciano - la limonada de pepe bombilla [mental groove] yoav b - boogie down saturn [wabi sabi] d5 - formation one [digital soul] sun god/daryl cura - the cs strategy [eargasmic] kenny larkin - let me think [peacefrog] ross 154 - 'til my heart stops [mos] domu - discotech [neroli] kai alcé ron trent - sa 'k pase [trackmode] madlib mf doom - madvillainy [stones throw] madlib - remixes volume 2 [no label] shed - red planet express [soloaction] jurren _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) Monday Spotters Quiz
stevie wonder (motown detroit experiment cover of too high) _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)
ugly edits 4 the dells - no way back and: minnie ripperton - stick together (?) ugly edits 5 roger - A Chuck Of Sugar and: sugarhill gang - hot, hot summerday _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) Recent detroit house
Tristan replied to Jason: New Pyschostsia release is pretty incredible too- Juju and Jordash- they quote Sonny Rollins as a major influence and it really shows- def one of the best couplings between House and Jazz I've heard before- unique. Jason, is this out yet? Haven't seen it kicking around yet. http://www.jujujordash.com both from israel and now residing in amsterdam. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/
Re: (313) Re: These Go up to 11 (not for the faint of heart)
David Gillies wrote: VICTIM: 1000 watt dual-voice coil driver (sealed) CULPRIT: Recloose Landcruising CAUSE OF DEATH: electrical overload Isn't Landcruising by Carl Craig? or is it 'Landscaping' off the Spelunking EP? _ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/
Re: (313) By Bot or By Mouse? ( Was: (313) Emotion Electric shutdown)
marc christensen wrote: Help me understand -- do we believe emotion electric got singled out by bot, or by person? Before we get too far in collectively imagining how to defeat the mega-corporate worms, crawlers, bots by using any of the combined methods described below (graphically representing the tracklist, flash site, haX3R naming practices, SMIL, ZIP, RAR, whatever) it'd be nice to know if BPI and/or the RIAA are primarily using automated data sweeps, or whether they're also using real living investigating clods (you know, humans of varying levels of intelligence) who are probably paid, like $6.50 an hour to poke around and google in order to find encroaching sites. Anyone think they're using PEOPLE? no idea, but i do think, that once you've been identified as a copyright infringer, they will check back on you from time to time to see if you obey to their regulations. so in the case of emotionelectric.co.uk, real people will from time to time check that site, so usin robot diverting tactics won't help there. not putting up a playlist will. (i think those deepspace radio shows contain a couple of records from major sub-labels, that would have probably been mentioned by bpi, but as those had no tracklists available, bpi didn't mention those...) jurren _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
RE: (313) Jamal Moss
alex.bond wrote: and one side on the cs strategy on eargasmic records is also by Jamal Moss. (recommended) Jurren. does this have a red label? if it does, it's the one I heard. First track on one side very nice? the label looks like the one on this release, but in red, so it is probably the one you're after. http://www.discogs.com/release/242781 the gu release is also recommended (haven't got it yet though...) has a nice larry heard-esque track. all the tracks on the cs strategy 12 are ace! one side as i said by jamal moss, the other by daryll curia, who along with jamal moss and traxx forms the dirty criminals. _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) Jamal Moss
[just tried to send this and my e-mail froze. it probably got through any way, but just in case it hasn't here it is again] alex.bond (who else? i hear all of you ask,) wrote: Jamal Moss. Heard that new Axis by him, and it's excellent. Then, after the pub Friday night me and a mate were playing a few records. He had this excellent thing on a red label, the name began with C, and ended in O. So, anyway, I have a look to see who made the track as it's good, and, lo and behold, in the small print Jamal Moss. So, have you lot been sleeping? ...huh? what? What other good records has he done? he's done a 12on ghostly, which i haven't heard yet. and i seem to recall some split release with adonis, or on adonis' label? anyone? and one side on the cs strategy on eargasmic records is also by Jamal Moss. (recommended) jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) Jamal Moss
and here's the adonis presents hieroglyphic being release i mentioned. http://www.discogs.com/release/65053 jurren _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) [Fwd: [Techhouse] Jetgroove Attorney Responds]
hmmm, just thought i'd add my two cents. the practice of this jetgroove website is highly questionable imho. i'd probably advice any labelowner to summon jetgroove to take all references to his/her label's releases off the website. basically jetgroove is trying to cash in on the fact that artists and labelowners have spend time, effort and money in getting their music out, and get noticed by the public. now jetgroove tries to generate attention to their PAID service making use of the hard work by other, whom have not given their prior permission. the fact that they place the names of artists and labels on their website, as if these artists and labels have granted permission, could possible even damage the good name and image of these artists/labels, should the practice of jetgroove turn out to be fraudulent or otherwise illegal. jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) who is....
alex.bond wrote: ..this Wajeed fellow who I saw dj'ing last night? He's from Detroit right? wajeed, t-3 and jay dee were slum village wajeed along with ... is platinum pied pipers more info on wajeed http://www.bling47.com jurren (who still need to get a copy of that bpm instrumentals lp on bling47, as 'tron' is a dope track) _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) who is....
some stupid kid wrote: wajeed, t-3 and jay dee were slum village no they were not! jay dee, t-3 and baatin formed slum village; jay dee sort of left, and elzhi (sp?) joined, wajeed took care of some of the production to make up for my mistake, some more info: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=5308 _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
(313) UR-055
http://www.discogs.com/release/330260 just saw this added to the discogs database. anyone know where i might be able to find a copy? no mention of it on http://www.submerge.com jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) UR-055
DJ Ken wrote with his fingers in his ears: Hmm, does not sounds typical UR. What do you think of the tracks? 'soul power' almost defines UR-sound to me. it's the kind of raw electronic sound that i don't hear anywhere else. 'schoolcraft bump', 'talkin to z' and that double pack (UR-043?) all have this same raw sound to them. i L O V E it! _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
(313) panic in detroit lp
anyone know if that panic in detroit lp was bootlegged/reissued recently? http://www.discogs.com/release/4731 just saw a copy for 20 euro's, and would like to know if i should run back to buy it, or not? jurren _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) If
Martin Dust wrote: If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... anyone ever tried calling someone in Utrecht? phonenumber for cityhall for instance is: +313 0286 1000 how much more detroit can you get? _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal
the way i see it, there is nothing new to this judgement. every musical piece is subject to several rights. the composition of the music is protected by copyright / droit d'auteur; the text of the vocals is also protected by copyright / droit d'auteur (so you can have several copyright owners to one song); the musical performance (= the recording) is protected by (in the Netherlands it's called) Neighbouring rights, (i think it's what they refer to as mechanical copyright in the US). so in most cases the rights to the composition lie with the artist, where the neighbouring rights are with the production company (usually the label). using a one second sample, probably does not conflict with any rights to the composition. no matter how small the sample used though, it does make use of the original recording. so you are supposed to clear the sample with the owner of the neighbouring rights (the record company). now you can argue over the question whether or not the (recordings of) actual performance should be subject to protection, but as right now they are subject to protection, the owner to those rights should get compensation for the use by someone else. jurren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: (313) Emanon
Mann, Ravinder wrote: Seems to be a thing with Detroiters and spelling backwards. Im sure Kenny Larkin has recorded as Yennek,nearly Kenny backwards. But cant remember the track. Anyone for anymore.. ? there's one or two records by claude young on utensil i think, credited to : david gnuoy _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) Detroit Techno
Marsel wrote: with all this talk about nothing.. is detroit techno, techno from detroit only? or can it come from i.e. rotterdam as well? i'd say it has to come from detroit te be called detroit techno [that is, that's the tendency i see all around]. (detroit) techno started with rhythim is rhythim, model 500, cybotron, innercity, etc. that was called techno. than ur, robert hood, alan oldham and jeff mills came, and took the sound into a different direction. that was still called techno (detroit techno). other evolved techno sounds from detroit are still referenced by many as detroit techno. but how about b12, black dog etc? detroit techno? or something else? ig culture, 4hero, maurizio, kompakt or playhouse detroit techno? the way i see it, is that if it sounds like some techno (offspring) that originally originated in detroit, it will be called detroit techno. if however the evolved version was first released outside of detroit, it will not be called detroit techno. jurren _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) jesus h christ
sean deason wrote: jesus h christ - little know fact: the H is for Herbert. you can see why, in later years, he dropped his middle name altogether. jezus dropped a name? wonder why herbert though... if i were him i'd probably casually slip the fact that my dad was creator of the universe into every conversation, wonder how he eventualy got to mention herbert? _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
(313) test
uno.. dos.. tres.. quatro.. _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
RE: AW: (313) for the Madlib fans
Carlos de Brito wrote: speaking of madlib vs. azymuth: i downloaded a cd-r, which is quite good, in a yesterdays new quintet style... comes with the following info-txt: check the video of madlib at the redbull music academy. he plays one or two azymuth covers off cd-r. both in his YNQ alterego. one song is a cover of 'young embrace'. personally i don't quite see the point of releasing all that YNQ stuff. i like the idea, and applaud madlib for the effort and determination, but i rather listen to the original songs. but that's just imho. jurren _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
RE: (313) for the Madlib fans
alex bond wrote: there's a disco mix up here by Madlib. sorry it's OT, but there's a few Madlib fans kicking about here. DJ Rels spins Disco Hits from Inner and Outer Space cool, hadn't seen that mix yet. madlib also has his own disco project coming out sometime next year(?) called spectrum77. stinki wrote: hi um er not trying to cause trouble, but i didnt think the madvillain album was that great. i downloaded it and deleted it from my hard drive after a couple listens...but i don't like mf doom that much. i did the same with some of his other stuff. i liked the quasimoto album a lot tho. i am a madlib fan. mf doom gets on my nerves.. i personally quite like the mf doom album, but i can definately see you not liking it if you don't like doom. i think his rhyming complements madlib's beats, and vice versa. i wasn't feeling doom's rhymes over his own beats that much. i absolutely love the madlib 80's mixes lp! maybe even the best madlib work imho. dave cronin wrote: a question: i know a lot of the Madlib stuff is fairly sample-based. How about the DJ Rels Monk Hughes records? I am certainly not intimate with the whole Pharoah Sanders back catalog, but haven't recognized a single sample on either album. Anyone else? my guess would be that the rels stuff is sample based, and the yesterdays new quintet related material is at least partially sample based (so that includes the monk hughes) covers of songs by Roy Ayers, Azymuth, Weldon Irvine, etc. from Making Beats, the art of sample based hip-hop by Joseph G. Schloss: An unusually overt example of this philoshophy can be found in a cover version of the song Daylight that appears on the 2001 album Angles without Edges by Yesterday's New Quintet. The original version of the song was recorded in 1977 by RAMP on their album Come into Knowledge. It is best known among producers because a two-bar sample of its melody provided the basis for the classic hip-hop song Bonita Applebaum by A Tribe Called Quest on their 1990 album People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm. As a result of being sampled, the previously obscure RAMP album became highly prized by hip-hop producers, sometimes selling for hundreds of dollars, untill it was reissued on vinyl in the late 1990s. On the Yesterday's New Quintet album, Madlib constructs a cover version of Daylight from samples of other songs (augmented by his own keyboardwork). Moreover, the rhythm of Madlib's drum track is not based on the rhythm of the original version of Daylight, but on the drum loop that A Tribe Called Quest combined it with to make Bonita Applebaum, taken from the blues-rock band Little Feat. In short, Madlib's version of Daylight is a virtuoso demonstration of production technique and knowledge, referencing the social and economic history of a commodity (the RAMP album), its use in the hip-hop community (Bonita Applebaum), and Madlib's own relationship to both. ... ok, i'll get my glasses (formerly owned by Elvis Costello!!), and my new annorak (bought off ebay, used to be owned by Liam Gallagher). jurren _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
(313) barcelona
i'm off to barcelona next week and was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers to decent clubs, recordstores (new and 2nd hand) and other interesting fact about the city. does anyone know if i-f is still playing somewhere in barca? probably best to e-mail me in private to avoid more ot posts. jurren _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) heart wrenching house
along the lines of larry heard.. chris gray - tried to be good http://www.discogs.com/release/9173 i bet there's some other good ones on deep4life harmony funk - before life [real estate records] damaged sole - only place [deep4life] glenn underground - archives [eargasmic] _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite parties. are you insane? flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? ... _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
