Fwd: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Shake sent this to me but we figured it was worth sharing... Begin forwarded message: On 26 Nov 2011, at 16:39, Anthony Shakir wrote: Anthony Shakir shake1sha...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com To: marsel mar...@nomorewords.net Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel... Robin here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. my friend fbk told me that that people want the classics. some of these (r)ecords were hard to get when they were made. and in trying to get them if you were not in the stores when they were delivered you missed out. i always looked at this music as bigger than it ever was. and the actual sales reminded me of the reality of it not being as big as i thought. but it was big to me. and still is big to me. the distributors only (buy) what they will sell. so i guess that is what help(s)it stay what it is. a cultish/niche genre thing. i can live with that having made some of it. money is an afterthought. it is a labor of love for me. so i do no not complain that i make just enough to keep doing it. (this is a business ron murphy reminded me once r.i.p .) so i will go on. for some, music is life. for others, it is noise and a waste of time. you can always hope that some hip hop guy will borrow it (sample it) and turn it into a profitable venture. shake shakir frictional recordings detroit, michigan.
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Lovely. all of us who can be seen as grandfatherly types can hope for ...well at least me...is that people remember, and enjoy the next, the new. I have remained productive...propers to those who have. I love this list...and wish everyone on it success. I hope we all keep talking through memorial day, rather than wait and lurk. As long as I can breathe I will continue-and hopefully this list will have the backs of those doing work. Cheers. On Nov 27, 2011 3:04 AM, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote: Shake sent this to me but we figured it was worth sharing... Begin forwarded message: On 26 Nov 2011, at 16:39, Anthony Shakir wrote: Anthony Shakir shake1sha...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com To: marsel mar...@nomorewords.net Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel... Robin here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. my friend fbk told me that that people want the classics. some of these (r)ecords were hard to get when they were made. and in trying to get them if you were not in the stores when they were delivered you missed out. i always looked at this music as bigger than it ever was. and the actual sales reminded me of the reality of it not being as big as i thought. but it was big to me. and still is big to me. the distributors only (buy) what they will sell. so i guess that is what help(s)it stay what it is. a cultish/niche genre thing. i can live with that having made some of it. money is an afterthought. it is a labor of love for me. so i do no not complain that i make just enough to keep doing it. (this is a business ron murphy reminded me once r.i.p .) so i will go on. for some, music is life. for others, it is noise and a waste of time. you can always hope that some hip hop guy will borrow it (sample it) and turn it into a profitable venture. shake shakir frictional recordings detroit, michigan.
Re: Fwd: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
That for me, is part of what makes the man [Mr. Shakir] great and memorable, apart from magical talent. Shake has the same outlook as a number of well-known Detroit names, some 'grandpas' and some almost literally kids. (Of course, it's not a mindset which ends with just Detroit musos.) We agree with it 100% and we try to enact it too, in our own small way. It's a great lesson to learn [IMO] **and will, in fact stand you in good stead*** if you're involved with music in any way at all that's not solely as a consumer. (Thanks btw, Robin.) Ken Ken Odeluga Assistant News Editor Markets – Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN ken.odel...@dowjones.com 44 (0) 20 7842 9297 44 (0) 7887793644 From: Robin Pinning [mailto:robin.pinn...@me.com] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 08:04 AM To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Shake sent this to me but we figured it was worth sharing... Begin forwarded message: On 26 Nov 2011, at 16:39, Anthony Shakir wrote: Anthony Shakir shake1sha...@aol.commailto:shake1sha...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.commailto:robin.pinn...@me.com To: marsel mar...@nomorewords.netmailto:mar...@nomorewords.net Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.orgmailto:313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel... Robin here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. my friend fbk told me that that people want the classics. some of these (r)ecords were hard to get when they were made. and in trying to get them if you were not in the stores when they were delivered you missed out. i always looked at this music as bigger than it ever was. and the actual sales reminded me of the reality of it not being as big as i thought. but it was big to me. and still is big to me. the distributors only (buy) what they will sell. so i guess that is what help(s)it stay what it is. a cultish/niche genre thing. i can live with that having made some of it. money is an afterthought. it is a labor of love for me. so i do no not complain that i make just enough to keep doing it. (this is a business ron murphy reminded me once r.i.p .) so i will go on. for some, music is life. for others, it is noise and a waste of time. you can always hope that some hip hop guy will borrow it (sample it) and turn it into a profitable venture. shake shakir frictional recordings detroit, michigan.
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel... Robin here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore.
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk.
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I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk.
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hey Ken, dont let anyone under-estimate the stamina of us techno veterans and BTW ill be getting a copy too. my faith in Derrick May was restored after last year's EPIC Bleep43 night =) Andrew Green 83 The Waterfront Mill Road Hertford mr.verd...@gmail.com 07816 373278 On 25 Nov 2011, at 17:12, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk.
RE: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
You know what mate; mine too. I really enjoyed that. The only disappointing part of it is that I was of course working for most of it and could enjoy *only* the last 4 hours ;-) Ken -Original Message- From: Andrew Green [mailto:mr.verd...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:18 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: David Powers; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs hey Ken, dont let anyone under-estimate the stamina of us techno veterans and BTW ill be getting a copy too. my faith in Derrick May was restored after last year's EPIC Bleep43 night =) Andrew Green 83 The Waterfront Mill Road Hertford mr.verd...@gmail.com 07816 373278 On 25 Nov 2011, at 17:12, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk.
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
haha, nice, I stand corrected. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. -- -Mike
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn *Benn Glazier* b...@glzr.info b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography http://www.twitter.com/bennglazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
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I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
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You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that: FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman called CONDUCTED. as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list. From what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things forward...I would probably rather buy this. I don't buy CDs...I make thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about this disc...I guessed I would. Sorry to hijack your thread. FBK Do people buy mix cds anymore? Shoot, I don't know...but the liner notes for this disc are quite interesting... http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted cheers... On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- fbk absoloop
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
The other cosmic twin also contributed a nice entry to this mix series. m50 At 2011.11.25 12:13, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: haha, nice, I stand corrected. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. -- -Mike
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that: FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman called CONDUCTED. as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list. From what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things forward...I would probably rather buy this. I don't buy CDs...I make thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about this disc...I guessed I would. Sorry to hijack your thread. FBK Do people buy mix cds anymore? Shoot, I don't know...but the liner notes for this disc are quite interesting... http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted cheers... On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- fbk absoloop
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Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. Thanks, Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that: FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman called CONDUCTED. as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list. From what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things forward...I would probably rather buy this. I don't buy CDs...I make thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about this disc...I guessed I would. Sorry to hijack your thread. FBK Do people buy mix cds anymore? Shoot, I don't know...but the liner notes for this disc are quite interesting... http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted cheers... On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- fbk absoloop
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On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of separation from Detroit to Berlin there. Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef. Otherwise, let the conversation flow. FWIW, I liked the one night I spent at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya - that was a sign of good things to come. Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record... -- *Benn Glazier* b...@glzr.info b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography http://www.twitter.com/bennglazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
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Agreed, Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on a post by another member, that's all. Plus I don't think I'm that off by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this forum). I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a couple weeks ago while I was there. I'll have to catch it next time for sure. Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant surprise). Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of separation from Detroit to Berlin there. Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef. Otherwise, let the conversation flow. FWIW, I liked the one night I spent at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya - that was a sign of good things to come. Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record... -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
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I didn't scold anyone, except to say that there's TWO people who are part of this list who are RATHER RELEVANT to 313 list, and Detroit...and I am only stating it because it may be interesting to others as well, and there's been no mention. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on a post by another member, that's all. Plus I don't think I'm that off by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this forum). I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a couple weeks ago while I was there. I'll have to catch it next time for sure. Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant surprise). Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of separation from Detroit to Berlin there. Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef. Otherwise, let the conversation flow. FWIW, I liked the one night I spent at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya - that was a sign of good things to come. Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record... -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- FBK Absoloop/Orange 82
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I disagree, if you make Detroit inspired music and consider yourself part of the Detroit techno continuum, then you your music is relevant, period. Especially if you are from the Midwest. Times change, people move, and ideas spread across the globe. And Detroit techno now refers to an idea, and to styles of music based on that approach, not We can continue to talk about the work of Detroit artists, as well, but the list has little traffic as it is. There's no reason to adopt a narrow minded definition of Detroit techno, nothing is gained through that. While I think Derrick's a great DJ, he hasn't made music in years, why shouldn't we talk about stuff that people are making now? I say we should definitely congratulate fellow list members for their work getting some real exposure and recognition!!! It used to be musicians supported one another, what happened? This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. Thanks, Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that: FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman called CONDUCTED. as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list. From what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things forward...I would probably rather buy this. I don't buy CDs...I make thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about this disc...I guessed I would. Sorry to hijack your thread. FBK Do people buy mix cds anymore? Shoot, I don't know...but the liner notes for this disc are quite interesting... http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted cheers... On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- fbk absoloop
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On 25 November 2011 22:46, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on a post by another member, that's all. Plus I don't think I'm that off by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this forum). Sure, there's no denying that Derrick is a brilliant DJ and his place in the evolution of the music that we regard highly will never be disputed. However, let's remember why the word 'techno' was chosen when it comes to these sounds. What's Derrick released recently? And how about Marcel and a whole swag of artists who are ripping it up right now... don't they deserve the air time? If they're producing excellent music, then yes. What is Detroit techno anyway these days? Is it a sound or an ethos? Or both? Or something else all together. That's not a dig, but a serious question being asked when borders are transcended and sounds cross over and meld; largely due to two things - the Internet and the reduced cost of air travel. And what does it mean? Well, yes, there's a lot of crap music to wade through, but there's the ability for people to access music far more readily, and this can drive the influence of artists, and beyond that, these new artists have a playing field to that is far more even than any other than before. And before I ramble off on another tangent whilst I should be finishing paperwork so I can enjoy my weekend, I'm just happy to see a thread with 20+ posts on the list for a change! -- *Benn Glazier* b...@glzr.info b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography http://www.twitter.com/bennglazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
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I feel betteri do not post often about things I am doing, of which theres a bunch...but I tend to think it necessary to mention what seems to be a good thing-like americans and midwestern artists getting international attention. Thanks for listening, and news from me is coming soon:) On Nov 25, 2011 5:57 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Ok ok, geez. Scolded may have been to strong of a word but the point remains. It's all good. Hardwax was cool but I had more fun digging at Diamonds Pearls Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't scold anyone, except to say that there's TWO people who are part of this list who are RATHER RELEVANT to 313 list, and Detroit...and I am only stating it because it may be interesting to others as well, and there's been no mention. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on a post by another member, that's all. Plus I don't think I'm that off by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this forum). I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a couple weeks ago while I was there. I'll have to catch it next time for sure. Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant surprise). Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of separation from Detroit to Berlin there. Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef. Otherwise, let the conversation flow. FWIW, I liked the one night I spent at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya - that was a sign of good things to come. Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record... -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- FBK Absoloop/Orange 82
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Absolutely bro, nothing wrong with us posting what we are up to etc. I think that's an important piece to this group. On that note if we're gonna Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: I feel betteri do not post often about things I am doing, of which theres a bunch...but I tend to think it necessary to mention what seems to be a good thing-like americans and midwestern artists getting international attention. Thanks for listening, and news from me is coming soon:) On Nov 25, 2011 5:57 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Ok ok, geez. Scolded may have been to strong of a word but the point remains. It's all good. Hardwax was cool but I had more fun digging at Diamonds Pearls Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't scold anyone, except to say that there's TWO people who are part of this list who are RATHER RELEVANT to 313 list, and Detroit...and I am only stating it because it may be interesting to others as well, and there's been no mention. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Main point was that we don't need to be scolded for not commenting on a post by another member, that's all. Plus I don't think I'm that off by suggesting that DerrickHardwax Employee (for the purposes of this forum). I was so tired that I didn't even go to Berghain over the weekend a couple weeks ago while I was there. I'll have to catch it next time for sure. Globus was ok, and there still was a decent crowd at 5:30am on a Wed night/Thurs morning when I played there (which was a pleasant surprise). Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 22:31, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. For real? First chain of posts in a while for one, and I don't see harm in someone pimping their own stuff when it's been released on a mix by a guy who works at Hardwax, and I don't think I need to discuss the degrees of separation from Detroit to Berlin there. Now if he bangs out 10 posts about it, I'll have a beef. Otherwise, let the conversation flow. FWIW, I liked the one night I spent at Berghain. Whomever was playing there when I arrived was playing Drexciya - that was a sign of good things to come. Now funnily enough I'm listening to MF Doom's MM.. More Food record... -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- FBK Absoloop/Orange 82
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore.
(313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Some interesting stuff on the tracklist. Including the 'unknowns'. Ken http://www.discogs.com/Derrick-May-Heartbeat-Presents-Mixed-By-Derrick-May-Air-Vol2/release/3243802
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
brother of the unknown writer? we had two license requests for this one - but really couldn't make any sense of titles and mp3 samples so still unknown yes :-) Op 24-11-2011 19:32, Odeluga, Ken schreef: Some interesting stuff on the tracklist. Including the 'unknowns'. Ken http://www.discogs.com/Derrick-May-Heartbeat-Presents-Mixed-By-Derrick-May-Air-Vol2/release/3243802
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thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net wrote: brother of the unknown writer? we had two license requests for this one - but really couldn't make any sense of titles and mp3 samples so still unknown yes :-) Op 24-11-2011 19:32, Odeluga, Ken schreef: Some interesting stuff on the tracklist. Including the ‘unknowns’. Ken http://www.discogs.com/Derrick-May-Heartbeat-Presents-Mixed-By-Derrick-May-Air-Vol2/release/3243802 -- -Mike
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Derrick May still slays most dancefloors without having to try too hard. I wonder if this mix contains any of the ace tracks he's dropped when he played here (SF) recently. There's a 4+ hour long mix floating around Soundcloud that proves the man still has few equals behind decks. On Nov 24, 2011, at 19:03, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net wrote: brother of the unknown writer? we had two license requests for this one - but really couldn't make any sense of titles and mp3 samples so still unknown yes :-) Op 24-11-2011 19:32, Odeluga, Ken schreef: Some interesting stuff on the tracklist. Including the ‘unknowns’. Ken http://www.discogs.com/Derrick-May-Heartbeat-Presents-Mixed-By-Derrick-May-Air-Vol2/release/3243802 -- -Mike
