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actually it might not be MK at all, it's the spooky track on side one of 'techno 2' - vice? oh whatever, i need a life, obviously...
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You really know how to raise a man's hopes Phil, up, up, up, so high, higher still only to DASH them egregiously! ;-). But that Vice track doesn't have any vocals... :-/ -Original Message- From: Philip McGarva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2007 11:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) oops actually it might not be MK at all, it's the spooky track on side one of 'techno 2' - vice? oh whatever, i need a life, obviously...
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I think you mean the Tim Brown track, 'Stark' by KGB...whatever happened to... -Original Message- From: Philip McGarva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2007 11:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) oops actually it might not be MK at all, it's the spooky track on side one of 'techno 2' - vice? oh whatever, i need a life, obviously...
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-- Original Message -- From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] simply because my records are organised only by previous pilings thats how all my records are organized. its kinda fun, you have to remember the last time you played a record and remember what other stuff you played in that set in order to be able to find it. tom andythepooh.com
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I've enjoyed reading this thread because I can't tell you what song is on what side of most of my records people will talk about a song by name and I just give them a blank stare - then they say it's that one that goes and -ah!- yes. I know which one you're talking about now. I remember them by label graphics - and then it's inside track on the side with the ___ picture/words I read in some magazine = you know you're a DJ when you don't know the names of the tracks you're playing anymore. there's only certain labels I organize together (with the plastic cards you find organizing bins in record shops), the rest are randomly put back where ever overall, their loosely grouped into boxes - electro, techno, house, downtempo/reggae/broken-beat and then there's my sock drawer MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To h.com313@hyperreal.org cc 03/18/05 06:44 PM Subject Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Please respond to OOPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] h.com -- Original Message -- From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] simply because my records are organised only by previous pilings thats how all my records are organized. its kinda fun, you have to remember the last time you played a record and remember what other stuff you played in that set in order to be able to find it. tom andythepooh.com
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Brian Prince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. I did the same with all my records at one stage. It looked purty. I found it was easy to find specific records with coloured sleeves, but anything with a black or white sleeve eventually became a bit of a b*tch.
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I place a colour every 10 black or white sleaves, and I remember them by placement.. so if i'm a bit off, its only 5 records away from being found :) go brain go! On 18/03/2005, at 12:48 PM, David Gillies wrote: Brian Prince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. I did the same with all my records at one stage. It looked purty. I found it was easy to find specific records with coloured sleeves, but anything with a black or white sleeve eventually became a bit of a b*tch.
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i too have many many records i have no idea who the artist is or the track name. not that ehy aren't on the record, but it's not how i identify and know them. when pitch adjustable cd players first came out i bought one. but i found that the thing i disliked the most about djing with cds was that it involved a different mental process to find the next track i wanted to play. with records i flick through my box and, if i'm on point, the next record practically leaps out, no thinking about who the artist is, what the track is called. no thought involved. but with cds i had to stop and think - what tracks are on here. no cd ever leapt out. i found it really ruined the exprerience of djing for me. james www.jbucknell.com r [EMAIL PROTECTED] music.net To David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/03/05 12:52 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) OOPS I place a colour every 10 black or white sleaves, and I remember them by placement.. so if i'm a bit off, its only 5 records away from being found :) go brain go! On 18/03/2005, at 12:48 PM, David Gillies wrote: Brian Prince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. I did the same with all my records at one stage. It looked purty. I found it was easy to find specific records with coloured sleeves, but anything with a black or white sleeve eventually became a bit of a b*tch. ForwardSourceID:NT0001BAF2
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I suppose the remedy to that is to burn off a bunch of CDs with tracks you might use that night - then you've mentally attached yourself to the CDs (if that makes any sense). Would make it easier to remember what song is on each CD but also a pain in the butt to prepare. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] adersDigest.com To 03/17/2005 08:24 r [EMAIL PROTECTED] PM cc 313@hyperreal.org, David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) OOPS i too have many many records i have no idea who the artist is or the track name. not that ehy aren't on the record, but it's not how i identify and know them. when pitch adjustable cd players first came out i bought one. but i found that the thing i disliked the most about djing with cds was that it involved a different mental process to find the next track i wanted to play. with records i flick through my box and, if i'm on point, the next record practically leaps out, no thinking about who the artist is, what the track is called. no thought involved. but with cds i had to stop and think - what tracks are on here. no cd ever leapt out. i found it really ruined the exprerience of djing for me. james www.jbucknell.com r [EMAIL PROTECTED] music.net To David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/03/05 12:52 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) OOPS I place a colour every 10 black or white sleaves, and I remember them by placement.. so if i'm a bit off, its only 5 records away from being found :) go brain go! On 18/03/2005, at 12:48 PM, David Gillies wrote: Brian Prince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. I did the same with all my records at one stage. It looked purty. I found it was easy to find specific records with coloured sleeves, but anything with a black or white sleeve eventually became a bit of a b*tch. ForwardSourceID:NT0001BAF2
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Phew - and I thought it was just me that had no grasp of names and labels! I'll tell you where it's at in my collection, know the sleeve design, know how it sounds, but names?... I try and pay attention but just don't remember them. Non-trainspotters unite! I'm sorry, what did you say your name was again?... (actually I'm much better with people's names. He says, ha!) Dan Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:41:26 - To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) OOPS Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh wait, it's James Stinson... okay I didn't know that Clarence G pseudonym. I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! ~David
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phew - and I thought it was just me that had no grasp of names and labels! I'll tell you where it's at in my collection, know the sleeve design, know how it sounds, but names?... I try and pay attention but just don't remember them. Non-trainspotters unite! as much as i try i'm the same...ask alex, i'm rubbish at spotting what things are/remembering anything. oh yeah and dan i haven't seen your name pop up on here in a while, welcome back. robin...
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the thing i disliked the most about djing with cds was that it involved a different mental process to find the next track i wanted to play. with records i flick through my box and, if i'm on point, the next record practically leaps out, I'm having this problem at the moment!! I can't, for some reason, seem to find any tracks I want to play from my computer with ableton! (at gigs) Its really really odd. Like really odd. I've got over 500 things to choose from, and none 'jump' out at me. thing is, they're just all my records that I've recorded in anyway, so its not like they are different tracks or anything. it's really weird. does anyone have anything resembling a solution, (apart from just playing records of course)? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Practice more on your computer On 18 Mar 2005, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the thing i disliked the most about djing with cds was that it involved a different mental process to find the next track i wanted to play. with records i flick through my box and, if i'm on point, the next record practically leaps out, I'm having this problem at the moment!! I can't, for some reason, seem to find any tracks I want to play from my computer with ableton! (at gigs) Its really really odd. Like really odd. I've got over 500 things to choose from, and none 'jump' out at me. thing is, they're just all my records that I've recorded in anyway, so its not like they are different tracks or anything. it's really weird. does anyone have anything resembling a solution, (apart from just playing records of course)? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Practice more on your computer you know what, you're probably right. I cant say I ever, ever do 'a mix' on it at home (maybe once every 6 months?). or even mess about that much really, I dont get much time at all, and when I do get time, its usually spent trying to learn more things about it as opposed to having fun. good tip, ta! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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We have 500 gigs of tracks sat on external disks, we pull tracks like you pull records, building sets as we go. We also play a game of impossible, where you pick a track that you think will be impossible to mix into/out off - we just shout instruction at each other, drop the bass, lose the tops etc. Great fun and we've built some interesting stuff that way. The last set tonight at Supercondutor was built this way, the only rule was it had to be made of tracks we've always wanted to play but never had a chance. So we have UR going into Beloved into FSOL into Black Dog into TDE Think Twice etc. Martin On 18 Mar 2005, at 13:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Practice more on your computer you know what, you're probably right. I cant say I ever, ever do 'a mix' on it at home (maybe once every 6 months?). or even mess about that much really, I dont get much time at all, and when I do get time, its usually spent trying to learn more things about it as opposed to having fun. good tip, ta! alex
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martin, when you play records do you have a definite 'set' that you do when you play out too? just wondered. (ie. you effectively do the same as with files below) robin... Martin Dust wrote: We have 500 gigs of tracks sat on external disks, we pull tracks like you pull records, building sets as we go. We also play a game of impossible, where you pick a track that you think will be impossible to mix into/out off - we just shout instruction at each other, drop the bass, lose the tops etc. Great fun and we've built some interesting stuff that way. The last set tonight at Supercondutor was built this way, the only rule was it had to be made of tracks we've always wanted to play but never had a chance. So we have UR going into Beloved into FSOL into Black Dog into TDE Think Twice etc. Martin
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martin, when you play records do you have a definite 'set' that you do when you play out too? just wondered. It depends, sometimes we'll build a set to use, but we always carry loads more than we need and we always take the externals so we can change everything on the fly, this lets us jump around a lot more and move with or against the crowd. But we have used the methods below live but it's a lot of pressure. We also have loads of loops that we play over each others tracks. If it's a hard crowd we can experiment more as we find they are more open to it, we have had 20+ tracks going on each machine! We double up the controllers, so on one button press you are dealing with volume/tops/middle/bottom, press again and you have echo/filter/gate/distort - meaning you have 40 knobs not 20 :) Hope that helps Martin (ie. you effectively do the same as with files below) robin... Martin Dust wrote: We have 500 gigs of tracks sat on external disks, we pull tracks like you pull records, building sets as we go. We also play a game of impossible, where you pick a track that you think will be impossible to mix into/out off - we just shout instruction at each other, drop the bass, lose the tops etc. Great fun and we've built some interesting stuff that way. The last set tonight at Supercondutor was built this way, the only rule was it had to be made of tracks we've always wanted to play but never had a chance. So we have UR going into Beloved into FSOL into Black Dog into TDE Think Twice etc. Martin
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At 09:08 AM 3/18/2005, Martin Dust wrote: We double up the controllers, so on one button press you are dealing with volume/tops/middle/bottom, press again and you have echo/filter/gate/distort - meaning you have 40 knobs not 20 :) Just out of curiosity, what do you use for controllers? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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But we have used the methods below live but it's a lot of pressure. I've found this lately. I have this strange thing in my head, that if I'm going to use pc over records, then I best be offering something records can't. so, I do all my re-edits 'live' and 'on the fly' however, this is tricky. My dad is building me a controller at the moment to make this more possible. but, I think I need to do more preparation - it always seems like cheating a bit though! (I know its not really, just in my head) alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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On 18 Mar 2005, at 14:18, matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:08 AM 3/18/2005, Martin Dust wrote: We double up the controllers, so on one button press you are dealing with volume/tops/middle/bottom, press again and you have echo/filter/gate/distort - meaning you have 40 knobs not 20 :) Just out of curiosity, what do you use for controllers? We use these live: http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/3336/ category_id/5ef4569fba889a5cb7724bb0b341085a Feels like it's just dropped out of a Kinder egg, but they are light, easy to use and fits in the bag. We also have these: http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/3826/ category_id/5ef4569fba889a5cb7724bb0b341085a I recommend trying them out before you buy... Martin
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but, I think I need to do more preparation - it always seems like cheating a bit though! (I know its not really, just in my head) Nah, this is simply like when a smoker stops smoking - you don't know what to do with your hands - There's always stuff to do, use the controller like you would the mixer and then use the mixer as well! Martin
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Re Ableton midi controllers, I had a very good look around to see what was on the market, and basically I didn't really like any of them. Rubbish build, one might have enough sliders, but not enough buttons and vice versa. I know Martin has said to me before you have to make do with what you can get, and thats true. but, I wasn't satisfied. However, have a look here www.doepfer.de to find kits to build your own, there are cheaper ones but these ones are kinda ready to go. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Seems like this is some kind of common way for dj's of telling where the records are and how they sound. I have tons of records that I know by their looks. My mental process goes something like: Hmm, there is this track on the record which has white and yellow sleeve and the record has red labels. It's on the picture side track two. It would go perfectly with this track.. Also a friend of mine (dj) said that usually that's a sign of one smoking too much... -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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i know the artist, title and label of most of my records but i don't have a clue where any of them are doing a mix is very frustrating. as is trying to sort them out p Jari Tolkkinen wrote: Seems like this is some kind of common way for dj's of telling where the records are and how they sound. I have tons of records that I know by their looks. My mental process goes something like: Hmm, there is this track on the record which has white and yellow sleeve and the record has red labels. It's on the picture side track two. It would go perfectly with this track.. Also a friend of mine (dj) said that usually that's a sign of one smoking too much... -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Placid wrote: i know the artist, title and label of most of my records but i don't have a clue where any of them are doing a mix is very frustrating. as is trying to sort them out Ok I sort of know at the time of purchase (and later on) the title of the ep and the artist but the names of single tracks escape me... -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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That's wicked Martin... I really want to hear one of these sets. If I was rich I'd bring ya to Chicago... ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) OOPS Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:49:41 + From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have 500 gigs of tracks sat on external disks, we pull tracks like you pull records, building sets as we go. We also play a game of impossible, where you pick a track that you think will be impossible to mix into/out off - we just shout instruction at each other, drop the bass, lose the tops etc. Great fun and we've built some interesting stuff that way. The last set tonight at Supercondutor was built this way, the only rule was it had to be made of tracks we've always wanted to play but never had a chance. So we have UR going into Beloved into FSOL into Black Dog into TDE Think Twice etc. Martin On 18 Mar 2005, at 13:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Practice more on your computer you know what, you're probably right. I cant say I ever, ever do 'a mix' on it at home (maybe once every 6 months?). or even mess about that much really, I dont get much time at all, and when I do get time, its usually spent trying to learn more things about it as opposed to having fun. good tip, ta! alex
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I have vague idea what lots of my records look like, and I know pretty well which tracks are the good ones on which record - like if I own it and hear it I usually know which record it's on, but when it comes to playing a set, the only way I can do it is to go through *all* of my records, creating a pile of stuff that may fit together, usually about three times the size of what I'm gonna play (simply because my records are organised only by previous pilings), then eliminating what doesn't fit. [deep breath after all those improper commas] Dunno how I'd go about it in Ableton. With CDs I've always only brought a couple or burned two copies of the same CD to work from that night. Frankly, dunno how I would DJ well if I didn't substantially limit my choices in advance. I'd probably make a load of really regrettable decisions. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Original message Subject:SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) OOPS Author: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 18th March 2005 6:28:34 Seems like this is some kind of common way for dj's of telling where the records are and how they sound. I have tons of records that I know by their looks. My mental process goes something like: Hmm, there is this track on the record which has white and yellow sleeve and the record has red labels. It's on the picture side track two. It would go perfectly with this track.. Also a friend of mine (dj) said that usually that's a sign of one smoking too much... -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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Oh wait, it's James Stinson... okay I didn't know that Clarence G pseudonym. I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! ~David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:37 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) the most expensive techno record ever? As I look into my crystal ball, I see heads from detroit scrambling about to see if they can find where the rest of the clarence g's are. its over a grand now, thats 2 thousand of your US monopoly money, thats some serious rent payments. come on, wheres the rest of 'em? there must have been 500 at least right? anyone know? ta alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. -bp
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is one of the coolest things ive ever heard! i completely know where your coming from with that too! derek. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Brian Prince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. -bp
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I wrote: 'certainly better imho than the monotonous stuff he played Sunday morning' Make that Monday morning...doh! And this sentence should read like this: 'Kooky and Ricardo's PAs were great as well, EVEN if it was difficult to see just what they were up to.' AND I can not believe I wrote this: 'There is plenty of things' ! Christ I wrote better in grammar school I assume y'all know how this should've read;-) Told y'all I'm a bit tired right...lack of sleep has allowed things to kinda run together in my head... m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Before someone unleashes a bitchfest... please excuse that last message... I was told to FWD it to 313 and didn't realize j3s allread did. I just got home from Kings Island and still feel like Im on a rollercoaster. For those of you going to lifefest.. have a blast. I wish I could be there! Lorie _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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it just depends on how it's doneand when you mention getting back to the roots check out The Roots, they do quite well with a live band. Five
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Yes! I have seen them, they were really good, but they were a band from the gitgo. No a couple of guys that a producer tracks down. Ollie
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Laurent Garnier had what I assumed was a keybordist and a sax player when he played live at Motor. That was well done! I have photos if anyone is interested hit me back or check out neksis.com under picturelive acts mg Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi nancy mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/01 02:27PM . Hip hop originated as electronic music, so getting back to the roots of hip hop with live musicians won't work. Ollie they were not saying anything about getting back to the roots, simply that live instruments will be existing more more in the electronic music genres and possibly replacing the dj/ synth or whatever during the live show and pruducers artist seem to be into making this happen as of late. = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For what it's worth, I've noticed a reversion to more live instruments in dp house lately. It reminds me of disco instrumentation, but updated to fit the new mold. I'd say things are moving in both directions at once though, since many electronic music producers are going to entirely soft set-ups. I think as the scene broadens, and cross-polinations become more frequent, you get more skilled live musicians interested in collaborating, or making these musics themselves, but at the same time, some producers delve further from live instrumentation in a different direction. In short: I think we're just seeing a broadening of the entire electronic music scene. It's growing outside of itself, and also plunging further into itself. Some reach back with a new futuristic twist, others reach forward in previously unknown directions. Some do both. Then there is another aspect of live which seems to be growing: more live manipulation of electronic instruments, either as a part of a song, or in reproducing the song live. I can definitely hear more of this in todays innovative music, and I think it's already starting to trickle down. People are getting farther away from the loop unchanged. Tristan --- nancy mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Hip hop originated as electronic music, so getting back to the roots of hip hop with live musicians won't work. Ollie they were not saying anything about getting back to the roots, simply that live instruments will be existing more more in the electronic music genres and possibly replacing the dj/ synth or whatever during the live show and pruducers artist seem to be into making this happen as of late. = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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i saw that Snoop performance about six or seven years ago, with the live band. it did sound bad, but that's because you're trying to reproduce electronic sounds, with no live instrument influence. of course it's going to sound bad. what's wrong with RB/rappers doing live instrument music? Mos Def did it on the Tonight Show a few weeks ago and it sounded smooth as hell. Mike From: nancy mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] oops..Re:Live music etc. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:27:43 -0800 (PST) . Hip hop originated as electronic music, so getting back to the roots of hip hop with live musicians won't work. Ollie they were not saying anything about getting back to the roots, simply that live instruments will be existing more more in the electronic music genres and possibly replacing the dj/ synth or whatever during the live show and pruducers artist seem to be into making this happen as of late. = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] oops......Re:Live music etc.
i saw that Snoop performance about six or seven years ago, with the live band. it did sound bad, but that's because you're trying to reproduce electronic sounds, with no live instrument influence. of course it's going to sound bad. what's wrong with RB/rappers doing live instrument music? Mos Def did it on the Tonight Show a few weeks ago and it sounded smooth as hell. I think in hip-hop circles many acts think, even subconsciously, that they are making more credible music once they introduce live elements. There's plenty of live hip-hop - Roots, The Fugees, etc. DJ Quik is an instrumentalist and one of the most underrated producers out there.
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I saw a busta rhymes and roots performance on (i wanna say) conan o'brian? last night when I was flipping through the channels--sounded pretty tight to me. From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] oops..Re:Live music etc. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:24:47 - i saw that Snoop performance about six or seven years ago, with the live band. it did sound bad, but that's because you're trying to reproduce electronic sounds, with no live instrument influence. of course it's going to sound bad. what's wrong with RB/rappers doing live instrument music? Mos Def did it on the Tonight Show a few weeks ago and it sounded smooth as hell. Mike From: nancy mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] oops..Re:Live music etc. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:27:43 -0800 (PST) . Hip hop originated as electronic music, so getting back to the roots of hip hop with live musicians won't work. Ollie they were not saying anything about getting back to the roots, simply that live instruments will be existing more more in the electronic music genres and possibly replacing the dj/ synth or whatever during the live show and pruducers artist seem to be into making this happen as of late. = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
