Re: (313) UR in Sydney, 1993.
And here's the URL. Sorry about that!https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152162289758542set=vb.22991198541type=2theaterStarts at 14 mins. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:35 AM -0700, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: Got forwarded this link of a slideshow of a party in Sydney, 1993, which was URs first time in Australia. Was at a venue called Grafitti Hall of Fame, which doubled as a meat packing plant during the day. To save you the gurners, UR pics start at 14mins. At that point in time it was Mike, Alan T1000 Rob Hood. Slideshow also has pics of UR in Redfern, a predominantly Aboriginal neighborhood in inner Sydney. Best to mute the sound, pretty cruddy musics and enjoy. I haven't found myself in the pics yet, but I don't really want to. ;) - Patrick.
Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement...
Yep, very excited about this. Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here. Denise On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me. http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks. ~David -- Denise Dalphond, PhD Ethnomusicologist www.schoolcraftwax.com
RE: (313) UR is headlining Movement...
Appears they are headlining the first night (Saturday): http://www.movement.us/artists Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 12:56:35 -0400 From: denisedalph...@gmail.com To: cybo...@gmail.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement... Yep, very excited about this. Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here. Denise On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me. http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks. ~David -- Denise Dalphond, PhDEthnomusicologist www.schoolcraftwax.com
Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement...
Yeah, I actually didn't see this news until this a.m. I had forgotten there was another phase of the line-up to be announced since I'd bought my ticket months ago. This is going to be a great time. Congrats on the job Dave! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Denise Dalphond denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, very excited about this. Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here. Denise On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me. http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks. ~David -- Denise Dalphond, PhD Ethnomusicologist www.schoolcraftwax.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
Re: (313) UR-D3 Live
Downloading now. Thanks for the heads-up on this, Wes. http://andrewdukeinthemix.com On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nzwrote: Speaking of UR, some amazing playing in this Sao Paulo set, well worth the download: To help celebrate the new year EPM deliver you something a bit special as we team up once again with Detroit’s Alter Ego Managementhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Alter-Ego-Management-Booking/218379655617?sk=info. Bringing you three of Detroit’s finest, D3http://www.detroitmusic.tv/underground-resistance-dedge drop an almighty party bomb with this exclusive live set recorded at the MD/A launch party in Sao Paulo at Teatro Mars earlier in 2013. D3 is a combination of UR’s Timeline Mark Flash. The two Timeline members are Jon Dixon DeSean Joneshttp://www.discogs.com/Timeline-2-Feat-Jon-Dixon-3-DeSean-Jones-Graystone-Ballroom-EP/release/3177949 (also of Galaxy 2 Galaxy). Combining the DJ and percussion skills of Mark Flash while Jon jams over the top with keys and DeSean adding live with sax the trio give a raw funk edge to many classics from the ‘D’ and beyond. http://epm-music.com/component/fabrik/details/18/56 Cheers from NZ, Wes http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/ https://soundcloud.com/sea-shadow
Re: (313) UR
yeah, must be Rob The Noise aka Robert Hood Op 19-2-2013 11:43, Paul Kendrick schreef: Taken from a discogs tread- Mike and Jeff, not sure who the MC is- Rob Hood? --- Not sure if this was posted before but here's a clip from a 1992 live appearance of UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE here in vienna. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmcq02ZmXAU the UR footage starts at ca. 5:05.
Re: (313) UR video
oops posted already On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM, jss jims...@gmail.com wrote: http://nutriot.com/videos/underground-resistance/
Re: (313) UR seesions in Miami in March
I think it would be cool just to go there and see the classes. I'm not sure how much I could actually take home from the teachings seeing as I am a no talent hack of a bed room DJ. Jeff --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com wrote: From: Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com Subject: (313) UR seesions in Miami in March To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 3:01 PM http://remixmag.com/remixhotel/underground_resistance_classes/ -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html sound design, music, production, DJ courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Duke http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj-page.aspx?id=5947 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
(313) Drexciya Re: (313) UR interviews on Kazuumi Ishii's Electronic Directory site
Greg Earle wrote: Nicked shamelessly from a Santiago (DJ S2) Salazar MySpace Bulletin post: http://www.electronicdir.jp/2008/12/electronic-directory-represents-underground-resistance/ -- BTW, for the LA-ites; Santi is spinning a special Drexciya set this Friday at an event called Underwater Dream: http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/20/l_31d85d8c33ed4c2f98b6d75dadce80cf.jpg Call 626-737-6242 on Friday for the 411. He's billing it as SPECIAL UNDERWATER DJ SET FEATURING TRACKS FROM LARDOSSA! (Lardossa being a place James Stinson described to 313's own Andrew Duke in an interview back in 1999.) - Greg Thanks for the heads up on that website, Greg. Odd look to it, but juicy content nonetheless. Anyone who wants to read the Drexciya interview, here's the page: http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html I'll post the audio when I find it (my daughter, now 20.5 months old, has pretty much ransacked my studio so I don't know where anything is anymore). Andrew -- Andrew Duke In The Mix (est. 1987): exclusive mixes, PAs, interviews: Daniel Bell, Minto George, Stewart Walker, Aux 88, and more http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33229983918 Andrew Duke FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852160229 Cognition Audioworks FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 please email links to MP3 promos or mail CD/vinyl to 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
Re: (313) UR interviews on Kazuumi Ishii's Electronic Directory site
I don't live in LA, but sure wish I could go. Super cool that Santiago is doing a special wavejumper set on the low, and I'm taking it as a sign from the deep that it's on the 19th since that's my birthday and I'm a massive, ridiculous Drexciya fan (I used to live on a Stinson St, which I re-dedicated in my mind). 'Red Hills of Lardossa' is also a Drexciya track (last track on Drexciya 4), but y'all probably knew that. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Nicked shamelessly from a Santiago (DJ S2) Salazar MySpace Bulletin post: http://www.electronicdir.jp/2008/12/electronic-directory-represents-underground-resistance/ -- BTW, for the LA-ites; Santi is spinning a special Drexciya set this Friday at an event called Underwater Dream: http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/20/l_31d85d8c33ed4c2f98b6d75dadce80cf.jpg Call 626-737-6242 on Friday for the 411. He's billing it as SPECIAL UNDERWATER DJ SET FEATURING TRACKS FROM LARDOSSA! (Lardossa being a place James Stinson described to 313's own Andrew Duke in an interview back in 1999.) - Greg
RE: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
Looks to have been removed Unless login is required. Anyway, that link doesn't take you anywhere interesting -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 04:11 To: Jeffrey Richards Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/ On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=37951 --- Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/i ndex.shtml -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
top right graphic. -nick On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to have been removed Unless login is required. Anyway, that link doesn't take you anywhere interesting -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 04:11 To: Jeffrey Richards Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/
RE: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
Yeah saw that. Was referring to the other URLS? Anyway, no matter, let's talk about music shall we?! -Original Message- From: Nick Breinich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 14:09 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe top right graphic. -nick On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to have been removed Unless login is required. Anyway, that link doesn't take you anywhere interesting -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 04:11 To: Jeffrey Richards Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/
RE: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
I always thought that image is from a WPA-era mural about car manufacturing. Scatalogics 205 15th Street #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent copies, but genius steals Yeah saw that. Was referring to the other URLS? Anyway, no matter, let's talk about music shall we?! -Original Message- From: Nick Breinich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 14:09 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe top right graphic. -nick On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to have been removed Unless login is required. Anyway, that link doesn't take you anywhere interesting -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 04:11 To: Jeffrey Richards Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
Google Russian Industrial Propaganda. http://images.art.com/images/products/large/12043000/12043432.jpg If you want to know more about it, I can look up some more info I have about Russian Propaganda design during the cold war. :) Angie On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought that image is from a WPA-era mural about car manufacturing. Scatalogics 205 15th Street #A7 Brooklyn, NY 11215 www.scatalogics.com Talent copies, but genius steals Yeah saw that. Was referring to the other URLS? Anyway, no matter, let's talk about music shall we?! -Original Message- From: Nick Breinich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 14:09 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe top right graphic. -nick On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to have been removed Unless login is required. Anyway, that link doesn't take you anywhere interesting -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 04:11 To: Jeffrey Richards Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
and http://www.discogs.com/release/307255 Ivan Tomasevic wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/index.shtml
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
Maybe it's stock. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and http://www.discogs.com/release/307255 Ivan Tomasevic wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/index.shtml
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
I don't mind graphic artists sampling each other. m Thor Teague wrote: Maybe it's stock. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and http://www.discogs.com/release/307255 Ivan Tomasevic wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/index.shtml
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
and http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=37951 --- Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/index.shtml -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: (313) UR - World's toughest tribe
Don't forget: http://www.worldrps.com/ On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=37951 --- Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/588436 http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/dangerousjobs/worldstoughesttribes/index.shtml -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
RE: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report
They played at the Brighton city festival with Laurent Garnier on the same bill. It was a bit disorganised to begin with but the sound and the venue were cool, as were the drink prices and the security. And you'll know this, but when ever you go clubbing out side London people are much more friendly..they were a good crowd. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2007 10:11 To: Paul Kendrick; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report Where was that Paul? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2007 10:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report Went to see UR / IF2 live last Thur night and thought the show was really good. They came on just past midnight and played for about 1 hour 20 mins I think, 5 people on stage including Banks all of them had there faces covered- which still makes me laugh. Banks seemed to be having a keyboard problem and later on I found out that he did as ones of the hired keyboards didn't work, but it sounded fine to me. From memory they played Chaos Order, Cargo Cult, Crackzilla, Attack Of The Sonic Samurai, The Final Frontier - which merged with Kraftwerk numbers and then adonis no way back then back into The Final Frontier, Maroon, Kill My Radio Station and then I Am UR.. It was fun. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report
Sounds cool, could you tell who else was on stage? On 29 Oct 2007, at 10:10, Paul Kendrick wrote: Went to see UR / IF2 live last Thur night and thought the show was really good. They came on just past midnight and played for about 1 hour 20 mins I think, 5 people on stage including Banks all of them had there faces covered- which still makes me laugh. Banks seemed to be having a keyboard problem and later on I found out that he did as ones of the hired keyboards didn't work, but it sounded fine to me. From memory they played Chaos Order, Cargo Cult, Crackzilla, Attack Of The Sonic Samurai, The Final Frontier - which merged with Kraftwerk numbers and then adonis no way back then back into The Final Frontier, Maroon, Kill My Radio Station and then I Am UR.. It was fun.
RE: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report
Where was that Paul? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2007 10:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report Went to see UR / IF2 live last Thur night and thought the show was really good. They came on just past midnight and played for about 1 hour 20 mins I think, 5 people on stage including Banks all of them had there faces covered- which still makes me laugh. Banks seemed to be having a keyboard problem and later on I found out that he did as ones of the hired keyboards didn't work, but it sounded fine to me. From memory they played Chaos Order, Cargo Cult, Crackzilla, Attack Of The Sonic Samurai, The Final Frontier - which merged with Kraftwerk numbers and then adonis no way back then back into The Final Frontier, Maroon, Kill My Radio Station and then I Am UR.. It was fun. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report
Yeah- Raphael Merriweathers Milton Baldwin aka dj skurge Cornelius Harris aka Atlantis Banks Frankie C. Fultz- I think -Original Message- From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2007 10:20 To: Paul Kendrick Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report Sounds cool, could you tell who else was on stage? On 29 Oct 2007, at 10:10, Paul Kendrick wrote: Went to see UR / IF2 live last Thur night and thought the show was really good. They came on just past midnight and played for about 1 hour 20 mins I think, 5 people on stage including Banks all of them had there faces covered- which still makes me laugh. Banks seemed to be having a keyboard problem and later on I found out that he did as ones of the hired keyboards didn't work, but it sounded fine to me. From memory they played Chaos Order, Cargo Cult, Crackzilla, Attack Of The Sonic Samurai, The Final Frontier - which merged with Kraftwerk numbers and then adonis no way back then back into The Final Frontier, Maroon, Kill My Radio Station and then I Am UR.. It was fun.
Re: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report
Yeah, those people where also in the ISF band when they played in The Hague last year. They had some new (young) artists with them when the hit The Hague again this year with Universe 2 Universe. On 29-okt-2007, at 11:30, Paul Kendrick wrote: Yeah- Raphael Merriweathers Milton Baldwin aka dj skurge Cornelius Harris aka Atlantis Banks Frankie C. Fultz- I think -Original Message- From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2007 10:20 To: Paul Kendrick Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR Live in the UK- Report Sounds cool, could you tell who else was on stage? On 29 Oct 2007, at 10:10, Paul Kendrick wrote: Went to see UR / IF2 live last Thur night and thought the show was really good. They came on just past midnight and played for about 1 hour 20 mins I think, 5 people on stage including Banks all of them had there faces covered- which still makes me laugh. Banks seemed to be having a keyboard problem and later on I found out that he did as ones of the hired keyboards didn't work, but it sounded fine to me. From memory they played Chaos Order, Cargo Cult, Crackzilla, Attack Of The Sonic Samurai, The Final Frontier - which merged with Kraftwerk numbers and then adonis no way back then back into The Final Frontier, Maroon, Kill My Radio Station and then I Am UR.. It was fun.
RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
I heard UR developed the technology for that cloaking device for their nite-strikes. And I heard that Mad Mike gets 1 hour sleep a night and can dis-assemble and re-assemble a 303 whilst blindfolded in only 2 minutes. -Original Message- From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 01:35 To: Jeffrey Richards; 313 Subject: RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Aobid=22115 can't always be anonymous, can you? There are tons of people who have met the guy, he doesn't hide from people. So it couldn't last for ever...I am actually kind of happy to hear that he went with out the bandanna for once. Jeff When your shows are packed with people armed with video and camera phones I imagine it would be tough to hide. The Analogue Assassin would need a Predator-like cloaking device to remain invisible. ;) _ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWL tagline= No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 15/10/2007 17:55 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 15/10/2007 17:55
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
There is a feature on UR in the latest issue of The Wire. I was relatively surprised to see a photo of Mad Mike on the cover... I guess staying underground doesn't quite mean what it used to. Not that I have an issue with it; it is pretty hard to stay anonymous these days. The 'historical' side of the article, covering the development of UR won't come as anything new to most people here. I was more interested to hear Mike's views on what he sees living and working in Detroit. Anyway, well worth picking up a copy if you can. I think the time was right for them to make the change, it's got nothing to do with not being underground, a black man rocking a balaclava/paint ball mask coming through customs isn't really good sense in these times Going to pick the magazine tho, always interested in what Mike has to say. P.S: Completely forgot to mention - I caught the end of a documentary on detroit techno on BBC Radio 4 last weekend. Does anyone know what it was? I was a bit surprised to tune in and hear Rhythim Is Rhythim! It was a very poor program and isn't worth bothering with. m
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
I totally BELIEVE that! :-) - Original Message From: Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:12:35 AM Subject: RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month I heard UR developed the technology for that cloaking device for their nite-strikes. And I heard that Mad Mike gets 1 hour sleep a night and can dis-assemble and re-assemble a 303 whilst blindfolded in only 2 minutes. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Aobid=22115 can't always be anonymous, can you? There are tons of people who have met the guy, he doesn't hide from people. So it couldn't last for ever...I am actually kind of happy to hear that he went with out the bandanna for once. Jeff --- Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI... There is a feature on UR in the latest issue of The Wire. I was relatively surprised to see a photo of Mad Mike on the cover... I guess staying underground doesn't quite mean what it used to. Not that I have an issue with it; it is pretty hard to stay anonymous these days. The 'historical' side of the article, covering the development of UR won't come as anything new to most people here. I was more interested to hear Mike's views on what he sees living and working in Detroit. Anyway, well worth picking up a copy if you can. Cheers, N P.S: Completely forgot to mention - I caught the end of a documentary on detroit techno on BBC Radio 4 last weekend. Does anyone know what it was? I was a bit surprised to tune in and hear Rhythim Is Rhythim! Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
He looks like Rich Hall Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2007 13:28 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Aobid=22115 can't always be anonymous, can you? There are tons of people who have met the guy, he doesn't hide from people. So it couldn't last for ever...I am actually kind of happy to hear that he went with out the bandanna for once. Jeff --- Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI... There is a feature on UR in the latest issue of The Wire. I was relatively surprised to see a photo of Mad Mike on the cover... I guess staying underground doesn't quite mean what it used to. Not that I have an issue with it; it is pretty hard to stay anonymous these days. The 'historical' side of the article, covering the development of UR won't come as anything new to most people here. I was more interested to hear Mike's views on what he sees living and working in Detroit. Anyway, well worth picking up a copy if you can. Cheers, N P.S: Completely forgot to mention - I caught the end of a documentary on detroit techno on BBC Radio 4 last weekend. Does anyone know what it was? I was a bit surprised to tune in and hear Rhythim Is Rhythim! Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
That's Mike all right . . . just a mug from the streets :) fh
RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Aobid=22115 can't always be anonymous, can you? There are tons of people who have met the guy, he doesn't hide from people. So it couldn't last for ever...I am actually kind of happy to hear that he went with out the bandanna for once. Jeff When your shows are packed with people armed with video and camera phones I imagine it would be tough to hide. The Analogue Assassin would need a Predator-like cloaking device to remain invisible. ;) _ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline
RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/239/523112506_bd3d280f2e.jpg Onstage @ soundcheck @ DEMF as a member of Model 500. -- Original message -- From: John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Aobid=22115 can't always be anonymous, can you? There are tons of people who have met the guy, he doesn't hide from people. So it couldn't last for ever...I am actually kind of happy to hear that he went with out the bandanna for once. Jeff When your shows are packed with people armed with video and camera phones I imagine it would be tough to hide. The Analogue Assassin would need a Predator-like cloaking device to remain invisible. ;) _ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagl ine
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
Underground and invisible are not the same? The Wire isn't exactly Hello/People. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16/10/2007, at 7:52 PM, Nik Stoltzman wrote: FYI... There is a feature on UR in the latest issue of The Wire. I was relatively surprised to see a photo of Mad Mike on the cover... I guess staying underground doesn't quite mean what it used to. Not that I have an issue with it; it is pretty hard to stay anonymous these days. The 'historical' side of the article, covering the development of UR won't come as anything new to most people here. I was more interested to hear Mike's views on what he sees living and working in Detroit. Anyway, well worth picking up a copy if you can. Cheers, N P.S: Completely forgot to mention - I caught the end of a documentary on detroit techno on BBC Radio 4 last weekend. Does anyone know what it was? I was a bit surprised to tune in and hear Rhythim Is Rhythim!
Re: (313) UR video clips and photos from last weekend
does anybody know if juan's health is ok? he looks downright skeletal, worse than he did at demf two years ago, and i thought that was bad! On 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some videos and photos I took at the UR, Galaxy 2 Galaxy, Model 500, 3 Chairs performances in den Haag last weekend along with other things. Great to meet good people and good times! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://www.youtube.com/BassaholicsAnonymous -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) UR video clips and photos from last weekend
Yeah it was good to meet you too James ;) The Model 500 gig was really good, Universe 2 Universe was nice as well to bad the sound system was horribly bad! KJ On 26-sep-2007, at 17:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some videos and photos I took at the UR, Galaxy 2 Galaxy, Model 500, 3 Chairs performances in den Haag last weekend along with other things. Great to meet good people and good times! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://www.youtube.com/BassaholicsAnonymous
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
Even if Genesis killed himself, those prone to group-think would have
found another visionary to whom they could abdicate their autonomy.
And if he ever did become a new Jim Jones, it would only further
illustrate the will to sleep, even in those claiming to strive towards
awakening.
So either way the devil speaks true (in a satin chemise no less)
I must admit that as JennyJim Jones he'd be fabulous as Madame's (aka
Waylon Flowers) sidekick. Pair them up with Beatrice Arthur and I
wouldn't know what to do with myself!
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kent williams wrote:
Now he wants to be the next Jenny Jones
On 8/31/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He always wanted to be the new Jim Jones...
On 31 Aug 2007, at 13:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When all PTV/TOPY needed was for Gen to kill himself.
fG
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
This wasn't a single isolated incident, that was the reason it was made public. It's written as if it were directed at one person so that people who need it, take it to heart. (from what I've been told). On 8/30/07, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing speaking of UR, hey yo, how are those new 12?? new nomadico and dj skurge out this week, looking forward to checking... ps rub-a-dub finally have a website after years of threats and jokes, so the end must be near. the rapture is at hand! http://rubadub.co.uk perty! -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
On 8/30/07, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. It's not that bizarre, surely Mike is stating the case, as it really is, that's some Detroit tough love. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing I don't think it's meant to be entertaining nor for entertainment, Mike's one deep fella, he doesn't do things lightly from what I can gather... m
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
GPO would have used Wylers instead of Kool Aid...only then would it be totally outrageous. --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He always wanted to be the new Jim Jones... On 31 Aug 2007, at 13:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When all PTV/TOPY needed was for Gen to kill himself. fG Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
On 30 Aug 2007, at 16:58, JT Stewart wrote: I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing I thought it was a pretty clear message from Mike and it's not hard to see why UR would attract a few lunatics, PTV/TOPY use't to get this kind of stuff all the time, it's pretty scary stuff when someone gets everything completely wrong. m
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
When all PTV/TOPY needed was for Gen to kill himself. fG -- Original message -- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30 Aug 2007, at 16:58, JT Stewart wrote: I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing I thought it was a pretty clear message from Mike and it's not hard to see why UR would attract a few lunatics, PTV/TOPY use't to get this kind of stuff all the time, it's pretty scary stuff when someone gets everything completely wrong. m
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
He always wanted to be the new Jim Jones... On 31 Aug 2007, at 13:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When all PTV/TOPY needed was for Gen to kill himself. fG
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
Now he wants to be the next Jenny Jones On 8/31/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He always wanted to be the new Jim Jones... On 31 Aug 2007, at 13:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When all PTV/TOPY needed was for Gen to kill himself. fG
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
well sure the message from mike is clear, but it's just...weird. surely people like robbie williams have more crazy fanatics but his website doesn't have any messages to those few fans telling them to get a grip -- although i haven't checked his website in a few hours..and maybe robbie doesn't care. but also the message from mike is a personal message, directed at a single person, not the public, it was just made public. weird! and no, i can't see that many young/crazy people would be attracted to UR...maybe in other countries?? On 8/31/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Aug 2007, at 16:58, JT Stewart wrote: I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing I thought it was a pretty clear message from Mike and it's not hard to see why UR would attract a few lunatics, PTV/TOPY use't to get this kind of stuff all the time, it's pretty scary stuff when someone gets everything completely wrong. m
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far
That really happened, and it wasn't the first time the guy offered to kill himself for UR. lol A lot of good that does for the music huh? On 8/30/07, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this scare message is picked up through the cbs.nu forums. Quite scary what Mike writing about! http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/48/48/ I hope the guy gets some professional help here! KJ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far
When people are young, they look to music and the culture associated with the music to help define their identity. They meet people with similar tastes and make friends, they dress a certain way, etc etc. This has been cynically manipulated by marketers at times -- kids come under the spell of a certain band, and there's a store at the mall that can supply all their subculture needs. Like Evanescence? Go to Hot Topic! Like Dave Matthews? Go to Abercrombie and Fitch! UR is the polar opposite of that -- their message is Do not allow yourself to be programmed. Strangely enough, even a music and message that says 'think for yourself' can be twisted around in a kid's mind to something as ridiculous as what Mad Mike was writing about. Kids are kids, and they occasionally need reminding to chill the f*k out and get a life. OTOH who knows what was behind that kid's outburst. Was he serious, like that guy who killed himself on video for Bjork? Was he just talking crack? Who knows. But as anyone who knew Dave Shayman knows, when people talk about suicide, they may not just be playing for attention...
Re: (313) UR fans taking it to far / new UR's / r-a-d plug
I think the whole episode is totally bizarre, I don't understand why the incident is being made public as it seems like it has to be a pretty singular incident. Either the suicidal guy is a teenage fanatic, which i doubt UR have many of, or a lunatic who rants and raves on the subway. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but mike's response is pretty entertaining with all the UR double-entendre-ing speaking of UR, hey yo, how are those new 12?? new nomadico and dj skurge out this week, looking forward to checking... ps rub-a-dub finally have a website after years of threats and jokes, so the end must be near. the rapture is at hand! http://rubadub.co.uk perty!
RE: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York
You must have fallen through a worm hole Monica and went to a Theo gig in a parallel universe in which everything was identical except it was actually a great night! It sounds like JT ended up in the other universe! ;-). Great to have your reports guys; thanks. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 August 2007 23:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York wow. i feel like i've had a mini-Detroit festival weekend here. this has been amazing. I was really impressed w/ Skurge, James Pennington and Dex. I danced up a storm at APT despite the frustrating logistical layout of the space and my exhaustion from flying in that day. closed that party...then Saturday at the Water Taxi Beach was really good, though not quite the sweet intimate vibe of Friday. Found myself unable to leave the dance floor, cursing those evil djs who wouldn't let me rest! But the biggest surprise of the weekend for me was Theo Parrish at Deep Space on Monday. I'd never heard him before outside of the Three Chairs, and had somewhat low expectations as (shhh!) I'm generally not really a big house music fan. But something brought me there, and I had felt like I really needed a deep and soulful night. I got there around midnight, pretty tired, when he started tech'ing it out, and again, I didn't get water, didn't settle in, just headed straight for the dance floor where I stayed most of the night, just riding the incredible energy of the music and the crowd. Some amazing dancers there. Again, I didn't know what to expect from Theo Parrish, but his tracked out funk, house, acid, chicago, techno had me enraptured. It was one of those utterly transformative nights, the best set I've heard all year (and I've heard a lot), maybe one of the best sets ever. wow. it was also really wonderful to meet so many 313ers who came up and introduced yourselves (Thomas, Mike, JT, Melody, Frank...sorry if I'm forgetting anyone...) i'm glad i'm on vacation as I really need some rest today! Monica p.s. er, does anyone else play like theo parrish, or is he one of a kind?
Re: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York
It wasn't bad it was just meh. It wasn't that the music was bad it was the high-eq overdose, and at least for the first couple of hours the music selection was a bit safe...Apparently the music got much better later. And while there were good dancers and people into it there, I was right by the door and saw (and spoke to a few) tourists and other people who were really out of place streaming in the door, not to mention the Pakistani prep crew parked on the dancefloor, and the $5 water and the $10 beer blah blah. I'm glad I went, but it definitely left a lot to be desired, seeing Theo in Detroit was many many times better. On 8/15/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have fallen through a worm hole Monica and went to a Theo gig in a parallel universe in which everything was identical except it was actually a great night! It sounds like JT ended up in the other universe! ;-). Great to have your reports guys; thanks. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 August 2007 23:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York wow. i feel like i've had a mini-Detroit festival weekend here. this has been amazing. I was really impressed w/ Skurge, James Pennington and Dex. I danced up a storm at APT despite the frustrating logistical layout of the space and my exhaustion from flying in that day. closed that party...then Saturday at the Water Taxi Beach was really good, though not quite the sweet intimate vibe of Friday. Found myself unable to leave the dance floor, cursing those evil djs who wouldn't let me rest! But the biggest surprise of the weekend for me was Theo Parrish at Deep Space on Monday. I'd never heard him before outside of the Three Chairs, and had somewhat low expectations as (shhh!) I'm generally not really a big house music fan. But something brought me there, and I had felt like I really needed a deep and soulful night. I got there around midnight, pretty tired, when he started tech'ing it out, and again, I didn't get water, didn't settle in, just headed straight for the dance floor where I stayed most of the night, just riding the incredible energy of the music and the crowd. Some amazing dancers there. Again, I didn't know what to expect from Theo Parrish, but his tracked out funk, house, acid, chicago, techno had me enraptured. It was one of those utterly transformative nights, the best set I've heard all year (and I've heard a lot), maybe one of the best sets ever. wow. it was also really wonderful to meet so many 313ers who came up and introduced yourselves (Thomas, Mike, JT, Melody, Frank...sorry if I'm forgetting anyone...) i'm glad i'm on vacation as I really need some rest today! Monica p.s. er, does anyone else play like theo parrish, or is he one of a kind?
Re: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York
i pretty much danced by the dj booth the whole night, so i missed most of the tourist posse. also didn't buy any drinks - just got tap water at the bar. liked the sound system at the space (i really expected to have ringing in my ears afterwards (despite earplugs), but i didn't. either that or i just fell asleep so quickly i didn't notice!) however, the space overall seemed pretty corporate and controlled - waiting in line to show id, waiting some more to get a ticket, waiting again to give a ticket to the cashier... and no ins and outs. would love to hear theo play in detroit some time. it'll happen... --- Original Message --- From: JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York It wasn't bad it was just meh. It wasn't that the music was bad it was the high-eq overdose, and at least for the first couple of hours the music selection was a bit safe...Apparently the music got much better later. And while there were good dancers and people into it there, I was right by the door and saw (and spoke to a few) tourists and other people who were really out of place streaming in the door, not to mention the Pakistani prep crew parked on the dancefloor, and the $5 water and the $10 beer blah blah. I'm glad I went, but it definitely left a lot to be desired, seeing Theo in Detroit was many many times better. On 8/15/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have fallen through a worm hole Monica and went to a Theo gig in a parallel universe in which everything was identical except it was actually a great night! It sounds like JT ended up in the other universe! ;-). Great to have your reports guys; thanks. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 August 2007 23:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR, Theo Parrish in New York wow. i feel like i've had a mini-Detroit festival weekend here. this has been amazing. I was really impressed w/ Skurge, James Pennington and Dex. I danced up a storm at APT despite the frustrating logistical layout of the space and my exhaustion from flying in that day. closed that party...then Saturday at the Water Taxi Beach was really good, though not quite the sweet intimate vibe of Friday. Found myself unable to leave the dance floor, cursing those evil djs who wouldn't let me rest! But the biggest surprise of the weekend for me was Theo Parrish at Deep Space on Monday. I'd never heard him before outside of the Three Chairs, and had somewhat low expectations as (shhh!) I'm generally not really a big house music fan. But something brought me there, and I had felt like I really needed a deep and soulful night. I got there around midnight, pretty tired, when he started tech'ing it out, and again, I didn't get water, didn't settle in, just headed straight for the dance floor where I stayed most of the night, just riding the incredible energy of the music and the crowd. Some amazing dancers there. Again, I didn't know what to expect from Theo Parrish, but his tracked out funk, house, acid, chicago, techno had me enraptured. It was one of those utterly transformative nights, the best set I've heard all year (and I've heard a lot), maybe one of the best sets ever. wow. it was also really wonderful to meet so many 313ers who came up and introduced yourselves (Thomas, Mike, JT, Melody, Frank...sorry if I'm forgetting anyone...) i'm glad i'm on vacation as I really need some rest today! Monica p.s. er, does anyone else play like theo parrish, or is he one of a kind?
Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going?
well, i'm a geek, so i'll probably have on a UR shirt or listen to detroit techno shirt. Monica --- Original Message --- From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going? Should we wear UR/ techno related tshirts to ID each other? just kidding. On 8/9/07, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will be at both. Call / text 630 886 3174 to meet up at/around either. Haven't done any sort of meet up via techno/rave/music mailing list/board for quite a few years. On 8/9/07, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll be at the beach party sat night and at theo p monday night...and am gonna go check out dope jams at some point.. for lack of better ideas, if anybody wants to meet me my # is 919-923-4126 jt On 8/9/07, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going?
seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica
Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going?
Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going?
Will be at both. Call / text 630 886 3174 to meet up at/around either. Haven't done any sort of meet up via techno/rave/music mailing list/board for quite a few years. On 8/9/07, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll be at the beach party sat night and at theo p monday night...and am gonna go check out dope jams at some point.. for lack of better ideas, if anybody wants to meet me my # is 919-923-4126 jt On 8/9/07, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
Re: (313) UR in New York - anyone going?
should have warned you about Love. sick booth + sound system but inversely proportionate to the vibe. there is a long list of ex-party throwers at Love that will ultimately be the downfall of the place. I will never go back. in regards to the way they run things.. a place done right, like Cielo, does the standard 10-4 thing.. local warmups early, headliner around 12:30-2 and someone closing out the night. Love will start late and go late. people go there when they want to keep going. and it's built for that kind. after going out from 1991-now I can say I am indeed too old for that sort of thing. if it's consistency, go to Cielo, Sullivan Room, Element, Galapagos on Fridays... check rhythmism.com for more info. +odd -- On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
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Last time I was at Love I felt like I was in a room full of fresh first year college students (freshman..?)... and there were about 5 other people there who were actually NOT students... and I think 1/2 the kids were mixing disco biscuits with alcohol and just totoally trashed... it was a one of the breakbeat science parties. I definitely felt too old. Wicked sound system though. And I like the venue although I shudder at the thought of the cleaniness of the chill out room [for those who haven't been there, animal plush fluff with a lot of nooks and crannies, complete with waterfall] On 8/9/07, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should have warned you about Love. sick booth + sound system but inversely proportionate to the vibe. there is a long list of ex-party throwers at Love that will ultimately be the downfall of the place. I will never go back. in regards to the way they run things.. a place done right, like Cielo, does the standard 10-4 thing.. local warmups early, headliner around 12:30-2 and someone closing out the night. Love will start late and go late. people go there when they want to keep going. and it's built for that kind. after going out from 1991-now I can say I am indeed too old for that sort of thing. if it's consistency, go to Cielo, Sullivan Room, Element, Galapagos on Fridays... check rhythmism.com for more info. +odd -- On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
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Should we wear UR/ techno related tshirts to ID each other? just kidding. On 8/9/07, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will be at both. Call / text 630 886 3174 to meet up at/around either. Haven't done any sort of meet up via techno/rave/music mailing list/board for quite a few years. On 8/9/07, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll be at the beach party sat night and at theo p monday night...and am gonna go check out dope jams at some point.. for lack of better ideas, if anybody wants to meet me my # is 919-923-4126 jt On 8/9/07, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweeet! Been feeling very down about new york nightlife. Just tried to see Derrick Carter at Love last weekend, instead to find presumably some local poorly playing deeply uninspiring house. After charging 15 on prepaid tickets and $25 at the door after 11pm, I would have thought a better evening would be ahead. I get the feeling new york locals are a bit too into themselves instead of being into setting a proper night, or maybe I am just getting too old and having a headliner start after 3am sounds like a recipe for a hangover of hangovers and a ruined weekend of sleeping till 2am. I guess my raving days are over. On 8/9/07, Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously .. that looks to be amazing. although right now i'd settle to see theo anywhere. -ramon On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY
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saw theo parrish is playing Deep Space again on monday night. man, i wish i could check him out there! tom On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, so I'm visiting New York this weekend, and planning to catch Skurge, Suburban Knight and Nomadico at APT on Friday (aptwebsite.com) and the water taxi beach party on saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to drag some friends along, but I'd love to meet anyone else from this list who's going. Email me off-list if you're interested. take care, Monica
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I personally don't see anything wrong with being distributed by itunes-even if it's by far one of the most commercial means of digital media. It's long over due that UR become more of a household name. I just thought that they were underground, underground, I mean underground resistant! There is no secret to this biz. Records are not selling like they used too. From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:52:08 - What's so wrong with UR being available on iTunes? - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) UR On Mar 20, 2007, at 17:29, David Powers wrote: Hi, what do you mean by this? I didn't hear anyone claiming they were distributed on itunes. Wow, look in the store. There they are. _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 01:55, Mike Melody wrote: I personally don't see anything wrong with being distributed by itunes-even if it's by far one of the most commercial means of digital media. It's long over due that UR become more of a household name. I just thought that they were underground, underground, I mean underground resistant! UR have made some good moves I feel, they have their own downloads site and they've have been helped a lot of smaller labels as well so I think it's a natural move for them to spread onto Beatport and iTunes. It's just another distribution method and to be fair to iTunes they have supported a lot of smaller labels that other download sites wouldn't. I don't think any of us are going to change the Top Ten on the Electronics chart (It's been just about the same for 2 years) but we need people to get the music and just like when UR tried doing the cheap 7 inches, this allows people to get the music and the artists to get paid. The guy who does the Essential Electronic Tunes section on the site is a real techno head and he was buzzing that UR had got some tracks on there and some of them are now on the Essential list, so the Underground fight goes on from the inside. There is no secret to this biz. Records are not selling like they used too. We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. m From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's so wrong with UR being available on iTunes? - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) UR On Mar 20, 2007, at 17:29, David Powers wrote: Hi, what do you mean by this? I didn't hear anyone claiming they were distributed on itunes. Wow, look in the store. There they are.
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There is no secret to this biz. Records are not selling like they used too. We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. Y'know you might be right here. The big question is how will that pan out in the long run? It's not like electronic dance music lends itself quite as well to live performance as rock where you can recoup some costs by gigging and use the free downloads as publicity. Ring tones do seem to be the exception (someone's buying them right?), maybe it's just a case of presentation. All questions we should be asking if we have anything to do with putting records out right now if you ask me... robin...
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 09:37, robin wrote: There is no secret to this biz. Records are not selling like they used too. We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. Y'know you might be right here. The big question is how will that pan out in the long run? This is what's so interesting, no-one really knows and all the majors really missed the boat on this one. So for the first time ever, it's kinda in the hands of the people. The cat was let out of the bag when blank CD's where made available and now there is no media required they really don't know what to do. We went to Midem this year and they all majors sounded very, very lost. The music culture as we know it has changed so much, everything is on tap and instant demand these days - so old methods don't and won't work. For example, people don't buy full releases from Beatport but they do on iTunes - the thing for labels to do is hit as many of these sites as they can and make 20 x £50 rather than sticking with the big five downloads sites. By the same token it's important that we support the smaller mom and pop download sites where we can. There's a massive youth culture built around borging and toothing who don't buy anything at all, they just copy everything and don't talk about music like we do, they reduce it to how many gigs they have. One of the most interesting ideas is Snocap, which will allow artists/ labels to sell their own tracks by supplying code and an admin page for yearly fee. I'm surprised that someone like Beatport hasn't picked up this yet. Another issue is how dance music is presented to the public, listen to Pete Tong or watch MTV Dance, it's sickening and not representative of the scene at all, it's hardly surprising that people never get past what they present... It's not like electronic dance music lends itself quite as well to live performance as rock where you can recoup some costs by gigging and use the free downloads as publicity. This is probably more true in the US, where the accepted format of bands has been the norm for years, again I think UR did a great job of challenging it by put a band together to do there stuff live, you can't knock them for trying. Most bands don't make money on gigs anyway, they make the money off the merchandise or by having the support bands paying to play. Ring tones do seem to be the exception (someone's buying them right?), maybe it's just a case of presentation. I've never really understood why someone would pay £1.50 for 30 seconds of music but it's a multi-million pound business so someone clearly does purchase them, Bleep tried it and it didn't work as there's no interest in it for the music we make. All questions we should be asking if we have anything to do with putting records out right now if you ask me... /Rant Off m robin...
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Martin Dust wrote: On 22 Mar 2007, at 09:37, robin wrote: We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. And it seems that they feel like they should not contribute in any way. I understand the attitude of not wanting to have anything to do with money (I downloaded a record you made, here's a record made by me.. But I think that in the past, during self-sufficient economy (when agriculture was the main form of industry), the kind of lazy sods only willing to leech on other people's effor would have been dealt with quite harshly. The music culture as we know it has changed so much, everything is on tap and instant demand these days - so old methods don't and won't work. I'm looking forward to the Web 2.0. I know it's a buzzword (and they usually won't live up to their excpectations, or blossom gradually), but lately I've been having problems finding good music. At the moment almost all of the webstores have only very narrow (or very vague) music descriptions, and they use only a couple of description tags. An interesting development towards user friendly music search, utilizing tags and metafiles, would be to combine for example: - active community functions (last.fm, 313-list) - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) With the previous kind evocation of SMART agent, I'd probably spend a lot more money on records (or music files) than I do at the moment. Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:14, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) There are definitely merchants with systems that do such things. eMusic is an example. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:14, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) There are definitely merchants with systems that do such things. eMusic is an example. Ok, good to know that one. I'll look into it, even though I don't (and probably won't, at least for a while) own an ipod. The system I was after was a bit more general in nature, so that one's smart agent would be able to search and receive information/recommendations on music from a wider scale of systems (whole Interweb? ;), because I don't like the idea that I'm limited to use one system (or store or service provider) only. Maybe there's a market niche here... :) Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 01:55, Mike Melody wrote: I personally don't see anything wrong with being distributed by itunes-even if it's by far one of the most commercial means of digital media. It's long over due that UR become more of a household name. I just thought that they were underground, underground, I mean underground resistant! UR have made some good moves I feel, they have their own downloads site and they've have been helped a lot of smaller labels as well so I think it's a natural move for them to spread onto Beatport and iTunes. As an aside, UR's back catalog has also started popping up on E-Music over the last couple months. A good chunk of my monthly downloads lately have been dedicated to UR. :)
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 11:14, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Martin Dust wrote: On 22 Mar 2007, at 09:37, robin wrote: We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. And it seems that they feel like they should not contribute in any way. I understand the attitude of not wanting to have anything to do with money (I downloaded a record you made, here's a record made by me.. But I think that in the past, during self-sufficient economy (when agriculture was the main form of industry), the kind of lazy sods only willing to leech on other people's effor would have been dealt with quite harshly. I don't think it's that at all - they don't know how to contribute, it started when you could buy 3 bootleg CDs for the price of one and now you don't have to buy anything - market forces and only £10 to spend a month. All you have to do is upload something and you are in - just fire Soulseek and head to the Techno Room, everything for nothing The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong, everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late. While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't - fact. I don't know what the answer here is but it has to be built around trust and educating. People will buy stuff if they can find it, this has always be the key - distribution, without it doesn't matter how good your product is. The music culture as we know it has changed so much, everything is on tap and instant demand these days - so old methods don't and won't work. I'm looking forward to the Web 2.0. I know it's a buzzword (and they usually won't live up to their excpectations, or blossom gradually), but lately I've been having problems finding good music. At the moment almost all of the webstores have only very narrow (or very vague) music descriptions, and they use only a couple of description tags. We've been talking about this a lot, the problem with big download sites is the shear churn - Beatport does something like 4,000 tunes a week!!! Impossible to find anything and most don't have time to look. What we need are some trusted heads on there making lists, doing charts and reviewing, this method worked with magazine like Q an Mojo, there's no reason for it not to work here - Nokia had the right idea here but it was badly executed. The other problem is you can't link to tracks iTunes or Beatport, big mistake, trapped by their own technology. You also have to remember that most distributors don't have the passion we have, they are simply box shifters who will treat your wares like fruit and veg. An interesting development towards user friendly music search, utilizing tags and metafiles, would be to combine for example: - active community functions (last.fm, 313-list) - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) Good, but it doesn't always work and being recommend things by a computer does get peoples back up. What you need is some human intervention, things we can trust. I'm sick of automated crap and no one actually believes their bank manager signed that letter, even if it was printed in a different ink but hang on we don't actually buy 80 million pound worth of bottled water a year ;) Metaprogram yourself. Break the code by drinking Darke Ale, it's the way forward ;) m
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http://www.pandora.com/ They have a massive database, not a lot of Techno, probably some house...but with Metal, Punk, Blues, Rock N Roll, Rap, Hip Hop, Funk, Soul, Motown...and come to think of it, they did have some interesting electronic, suprisingly not dominated by trance. All you need to do is put in an email address and enter some artist names to start up your personal radio station Model 500 is on there somewhere. 100% NO SPAM makes it nice too. I start next week as the new director of promotions next week ;) Jeff --- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Martin Dust wrote: On 22 Mar 2007, at 09:37, robin wrote: We have a culture coming up that don't believe they should pay for anything, that's the problem. And it seems that they feel like they should not contribute in any way. I understand the attitude of not wanting to have anything to do with money (I downloaded a record you made, here's a record made by me.. But I think that in the past, during self-sufficient economy (when agriculture was the main form of industry), the kind of lazy sods only willing to leech on other people's effor would have been dealt with quite harshly. The music culture as we know it has changed so much, everything is on tap and instant demand these days - so old methods don't and won't work. I'm looking forward to the Web 2.0. I know it's a buzzword (and they usually won't live up to their excpectations, or blossom gradually), but lately I've been having problems finding good music. At the moment almost all of the webstores have only very narrow (or very vague) music descriptions, and they use only a couple of description tags. An interesting development towards user friendly music search, utilizing tags and metafiles, would be to combine for example: - active community functions (last.fm, 313-list) - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) With the previous kind evocation of SMART agent, I'd probably spend a lot more money on records (or music files) than I do at the moment. Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
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Martin Dust wrote: The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong, everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late. While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't - fact. I don't know what the answer here is but it has to be built around trust and educating. People will buy stuff if they can find it, this has always be the key - distribution, without it doesn't matter how good your product is. I see your point and agree, Martin, but I do wonder about the niche factor surrounding 313 and electronic music in general. Seems to me that these sorts of off-road genres have always been like truffles that need to be sniffed out and hunted down. I have more questions than answers about these things, but I have to ask if people who don't feel the NEED to crawl up the vein and into the aorta ARE going to look for it when it is available. I have always demonstrated my fiscal irresponsibility when it comes to music - ever since I had an allowance. It's one of the reasons I don't own a house; I spend way too much per week on music. It's a gerbil wheel, it's an addiction, it's a need, and one I need to get in check now that I am retired (or more properly, between careers with a 70% pay cut!). I have always paid for music and still do; I resell on Satan-bay to recoup part of the loss and buy more. I *will* buy it if I can find it, and at my age I have developed a pretty good nose for finding it. I'm just not sure everybody (even in niche genres) cares enough to seek it out, and if they don't care enough to dig deep and long, will they care enough to purchase it? I can only speak from my own cultural context and I know it's a bit different over there, but... jeff
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Martin Dust wrote: You also have to remember that most distributors don't have the passion we have, they are simply box shifters who will treat your wares like fruit and veg. Yes, most likely the only way to get them interested is to offer a unique competition value over other distributors (getting random music listeners, connoisseurs etc. as customers). It's still a fruit and veg store, but instead of dryed parsnip they could sell fresh juniper berries. :) An interesting development towards user friendly music search, utilizing tags and metafiles, would be to combine for example: - active community functions (last.fm, 313-list) - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) Good, but it doesn't always work and being recommend things by a computer does get peoples back up. What you need is some human intervention, things we can trust. That was the active community functions mentioned above. Accept recommendations from people you trust, in a similar vein spamassassin does. For example while pulling information from this list, I'd probably soon notice whose record recommendations I would keep in the system's peer list, and whose I'd drop out because they have too different taste in music. So the basic idea with this is that along with one's friends in music there's a lot of human generated information out there, but it needs to be sorted out. A lot of clutter nowadays. Metaprogram yourself. Break the code by drinking Darke Ale, it's the way forward ;) Which forward is that? ;) Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 13:11, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Martin Dust wrote: The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong, everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late. While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't - fact. I don't know what the answer here is but it has to be built around trust and educating. People will buy stuff if they can find it, this has always be the key - distribution, without it doesn't matter how good your product is. I see your point and agree, Martin, but I do wonder about the niche factor surrounding 313 and electronic music in general. Seems to me that these sorts of off-road genres have always been like truffles that need to be sniffed out and hunted down. I have more questions than answers about these things, but I have to ask if people who don't feel the NEED to crawl up the vein and into the aorta ARE going to look for it when it is available. I have always demonstrated my fiscal irresponsibility when it comes to music - ever since I had an allowance. It's one of the reasons I don't own a house; I spend way too much per week on music. It's a gerbil wheel, it's an addiction, it's a need, and one I need to get in check now that I am retired (or more properly, between careers with a 70% pay cut!). I have always paid for music and still do; I resell on Satan-bay to recoup part of the loss and buy more. I *will* buy it if I can find it, and at my age I have developed a pretty good nose for finding it. I'm just not sure everybody (even in niche genres) cares enough to seek it out, and if they don't care enough to dig deep and long, will they care enough to purchase it? I can only speak from my own cultural context and I know it's a bit different over there, but... Sure, I totally understand where you are coming from Jeff but my case was more of an objective viewpoint rather than subjective one. Culture has changed, the way we consume things is very different now. You could say that Beatport is niche, in fact we know it is but iTunes isn't and that's probably where the new market may be. Having said that, 97% of people with an iPod have never purchased anything from iTunes... m
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On 22 Mar 2007, at 13:34, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Martin Dust wrote: You also have to remember that most distributors don't have the passion we have, they are simply box shifters who will treat your wares like fruit and veg. Yes, most likely the only way to get them interested is to offer a unique competition value over other distributors (getting random music listeners, connoisseurs etc. as customers). It's still a fruit and veg store, but instead of dryed parsnip they could sell fresh juniper berries. :) It's a romantic analogy and a nice one at that but it holds no water in the business world. An interesting development towards user friendly music search, utilizing tags and metafiles, would be to combine for example: - active community functions (last.fm, 313-list) - personal up-to-date information (discogs' collections and wantlists) - music rating - system would analyze a piece of music according to it's metadata and mayhaps even waveform, and the users would thet rate it according to their taste (even random music rating would improve the accuracy) Good, but it doesn't always work and being recommend things by a computer does get peoples back up. What you need is some human intervention, things we can trust. That was the active community functions mentioned above. Accept recommendations from people you trust, in a similar vein spamassassin does. For example while pulling information from this list, I'd probably soon notice whose record recommendations I would keep in the system's peer list, and whose I'd drop out because they have too different taste in music. So the basic idea with this is that along with one's friends in music there's a lot of human generated information out there, but it needs to be sorted out. A lot of clutter nowadays. The problem with this is it isn't scalable, it's proven not to work and open to abuse, see myspace for a working example and Tivo for another. Last fm have got pretty close but again it's still open to abuse and requires people to search, which most don't. The other point would be that I want exposing to new stuff, I don't just want the stuff I already like. This list for example has switched me on to some stuff I would have never looked at, the same with woebot.tv - you can't automate it... m
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Perhaps of interest: http://splashcastmedia.com/us-rep-defends-mixtapes-and-mashups-on-floor-of-congress or splashcastmedia.com search: us rep defends mixtapes m50 At 07:11 2007/3/22, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Martin Dust wrote: The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong, everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late. While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't - fact. I don't know what the answer here is but it has to be built around trust and educating. People will buy stuff if they can find it, this has always be the key - distribution, without it doesn't matter how good your product is. I see your point and agree, Martin, but I do wonder about the niche factor surrounding 313 and electronic music in general. Seems to me that these sorts of off-road genres have always been like truffles that need to be sniffed out and hunted down. I have more questions than answers about these things, but I have to ask if people who don't feel the NEED to crawl up the vein and into the aorta ARE going to look for it when it is available. I have always demonstrated my fiscal irresponsibility when it comes to music - ever since I had an allowance. It's one of the reasons I don't own a house; I spend way too much per week on music. It's a gerbil wheel, it's an addiction, it's a need, and one I need to get in check now that I am retired (or more properly, between careers with a 70% pay cut!). I have always paid for music and still do; I resell on Satan-bay to recoup part of the loss and buy more. I *will* buy it if I can find it, and at my age I have developed a pretty good nose for finding it. I'm just not sure everybody (even in niche genres) cares enough to seek it out, and if they don't care enough to dig deep and long, will they care enough to purchase it? I can only speak from my own cultural context and I know it's a bit different over there, but... jeff
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Also perhaps of interest, though a bit longer and drier: http://energycommerce.house.gov/cmte_mtgs/110-ti_hrg.030707.future_radio.shtml m50 At 07:11 2007/3/22, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Martin Dust wrote: The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong, everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late. While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't - fact. I don't know what the answer here is but it has to be built around trust and educating. People will buy stuff if they can find it, this has always be the key - distribution, without it doesn't matter how good your product is. I see your point and agree, Martin, but I do wonder about the niche factor surrounding 313 and electronic music in general. Seems to me that these sorts of off-road genres have always been like truffles that need to be sniffed out and hunted down. I have more questions than answers about these things, but I have to ask if people who don't feel the NEED to crawl up the vein and into the aorta ARE going to look for it when it is available. I have always demonstrated my fiscal irresponsibility when it comes to music - ever since I had an allowance. It's one of the reasons I don't own a house; I spend way too much per week on music. It's a gerbil wheel, it's an addiction, it's a need, and one I need to get in check now that I am retired (or more properly, between careers with a 70% pay cut!). I have always paid for music and still do; I resell on Satan-bay to recoup part of the loss and buy more. I *will* buy it if I can find it, and at my age I have developed a pretty good nose for finding it. I'm just not sure everybody (even in niche genres) cares enough to seek it out, and if they don't care enough to dig deep and long, will they care enough to purchase it? I can only speak from my own cultural context and I know it's a bit different over there, but... jeff
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Here is a message from Atlantis: I invite any and everyone to try their hand at deciphering the coded news item. The ones who pointed out that the Darke Beer Co. and Broade Creek, Michigan don't exist were on the right track...but there's more. Believe it or not, the idea was for folks to have some fun! No, it's not a knock knock joke, wouldn't be UR if it was, but come on! Even the revolution needs some fun from time to time... On 3/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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the picture on the UR website for the brewery is completely generic. http://cgi.ebay.com/Darke-s-Beer-Brewery-Decorative-Wall-Clock_W0QQitemZ220084900339QQcmdZViewItem here is one for me! http://cgi.ebay.com/RICHARDS-S-BREWERY-Beer-Ale-Wall-Clock_W0QQitemZ220090412649QQcategoryZ35717QQcmdZViewItem In fact it all seems pretty generic to me. I am sure that is the point, and so is me not being able to make sense of the order of the quotes. Eh, well... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a message from Atlantis: I invite any and everyone to try their hand at deciphering the coded news item. The ones who pointed out that the Darke Beer Co. and Broade Creek, Michigan don't exist were on the right track...but there's more. Believe it or not, the idea was for folks to have some fun! No, it's not a knock knock joke, wouldn't be UR if it was, but come on! Even the revolution needs some fun from time to time... On 3/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
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Who's the guy on the UR forum? Crikey he seem to have had a humour bypass. You should have done one of those treasure hunt things, loads of clues to find a box of S.I.D's... :) m On 21 Mar 2007, at 02:49, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Here is a message from Atlantis: I invite any and everyone to try their hand at deciphering the coded news item. The ones who pointed out that the Darke Beer Co. and Broade Creek, Michigan don't exist were on the right track...but there's more. Believe it or not, the idea was for folks to have some fun! No, it's not a knock knock joke, wouldn't be UR if it was, but come on! Even the revolution needs some fun from time to time... On 3/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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I have no idea who that guy in the UR forum is. He's part of some file-sharing cult (no joke).He professes that he resists conventional forms of communication (no TV/no Radioit's all forms of programming) - but then I called him on the fact that he has a myspace page. Go figure! On 3/21/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's the guy on the UR forum? Crikey he seem to have had a humour bypass. You should have done one of those treasure hunt things, loads of clues to find a box of S.I.D's... :) m On 21 Mar 2007, at 02:49, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Here is a message from Atlantis: I invite any and everyone to try their hand at deciphering the coded news item. The ones who pointed out that the Darke Beer Co. and Broade Creek, Michigan don't exist were on the right track...but there's more. Believe it or not, the idea was for folks to have some fun! No, it's not a knock knock joke, wouldn't be UR if it was, but come on! Even the revolution needs some fun from time to time... On 3/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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Keep going! :) It's getting close. On 3/21/07, Patrick Wacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted... sorry for the double up if so... Broad Creek, Darke Beer co and Keer Bread Co are all the same anagram which contain the following words: Break Code Record Which makes sense as the record does have some morse code. My only guess as to the reference to I M Darwin would be that Darwin is considered the father of evolutionary science, something that UR have hinted to on the ISF records and gene types for each member. Just thinking out loud here peoples... Peace, Patrick 'too much time on his hands' Southern Outpost http://www.s0612.com Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a message from Atlantis: I invite any and everyone to try their hand at deciphering the coded news item. The ones who pointed out that the Darke Beer Co. and Broade Creek, Michigan don't exist were on the right track...but there's more. Believe it or not, the idea was for folks to have some fun! No, it's not a knock knock joke, wouldn't be UR if it was, but come on! Even the revolution needs some fun from time to time... On 3/19/07, Wojtek wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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I read this as If things get any worse then we'll have to go down this route. Maybe. And, that Beer Company doesn't exist or is doesn't do publicity (no website). Why sign a techno label/outfit/legend/s if you don't do publicity? robin... On 19 Mar 2007, at 17:31, Wojtek wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/
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I heard if you play the new UR record backwards, you can hear them say Turn me on dead man and T. Linder is a dead man, miss him miss him ;) - Greg
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I don't recall exactly where Broade Creek is, but I think they used to have a Coney Island there. As for the Morse Code, yes it is. fh - It's not an April fools prank. On 3/19/07, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Yep, it's a joke. Lighten-up. It's not like anyone's religion or family has been defamed (has it?) -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2007 19:29 To: Wojtek Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) UR *ahem* April 1 is two weeks away. This is like that stupid stunt some Providence radio station pulled last year. (except I wanted them to sell out and die) On Mar 19, 2007, at 13:31, Wojtek wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 3:11, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Yep, it's a joke. Lighten-up. It's not like anyone's religion or family has been defamed (has it?) Beer's not a religion?!? (not sure why you're telling me to lighten up, though) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah. I didn't actually mean you specifically ... anyone got any music to chat about?!?! ;-) -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2007 10:37 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR On Mar 20, 2007, at 3:11, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Yep, it's a joke. Lighten-up. It's not like anyone's religion or family has been defamed (has it?) Beer's not a religion?!? (not sure why you're telling me to lighten up, though) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, robin wrote: And, that Beer Company doesn't exist or is doesn't do publicity (no website). Why not get stuck in the loop and check out all anagrams for those letters? :) http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi-bin/anagram.cgi?cpw=1phrase=broade+creek One of them's got to be leading towards the right direction!.. ;) Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jussi Lehtonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2007 11:59 Aan: robin CC: Somewhere in Internet Onderwerp: Re: (313) UR On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, robin wrote: And, that Beer Company doesn't exist or is doesn't do publicity (no website). Why not get stuck in the loop and check out all anagrams for those letters? :) http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi- bin/anagram.cgi?cpw=1phrase=broade+creek One of them's got to be leading towards the right direction!.. ;) Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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So if we post up the translation of the morse will UR get the hump like last time? ;) robin... Remco Doorewaard wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone???
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Nah, who reads this list anyway ;-) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2007 12:07 Aan: Remco Doorewaard CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) UR So if we post up the translation of the morse will UR get the hump like last time? ;) robin... Remco Doorewaard wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone???
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Going on the active posters...just a handful :) robin... Remco Doorewaard wrote: Nah, who reads this list anyway ;-)
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whoops, broade creek = codebreaker. thanks, jussi. isn't this just part ur's anit-marketing marketing? On 20/03/07, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jussi Lehtonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2007 11:59 Aan: robin CC: Somewhere in Internet Onderwerp: Re: (313) UR On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, robin wrote: And, that Beer Company doesn't exist or is doesn't do publicity (no website). Why not get stuck in the loop and check out all anagrams for those letters? :) http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi- bin/anagram.cgi?cpw=1phrase=broade+creek One of them's got to be leading towards the right direction!.. ;) Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
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On 3/20/07, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? as my wife and i posted last night! tom
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You used all the glue on purpose! 313-lolz today. hehehe - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:59:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) UR LOL - Mad Mike is spreading the soft glow of electric sex. MEK Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:55:52 PM: Damn you little orphan Annie! On 3/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mad Mike on the tones and Mark Agent Chaos Floyd on the coded voice channel. B---esu-r-etoeaty o-ur-o-valti-n-e ;-) MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:49:41 PM: from the sample it definitely sounds like it has morse code. Long beeps and short beeps. Also sounds like the vocals are backwards. MEK John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:38:24 PM: I am guessing this makes more sense once the morse code on b2 is de-coded? If the b2 track does contain morse code that is... From: Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:31:40 -0700 Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ _ Live Search Maps ? find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2FORM=MGAC01 -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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Maybe UR located the real Zodiac killer, discovered that he makes sick beats, signed him, and this is his press release. - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:19:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) UR On 3/20/07, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? as my wife and i posted last night! tom
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I always thought it could be Richie, check this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zodiac3.jpg ;) On 20 Mar 2007, at 15:38, Joel Gajewski wrote: Maybe UR located the real Zodiac killer, discovered that he makes sick beats, signed him, and this is his press release. - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:19:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) UR On 3/20/07, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? as my wife and i posted last night! tom
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Neither is UR being distributed by itunes.com From: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED], list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:41:58 -0500 It's not an April fools prank. On 3/19/07, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *ahem* April 1 is two weeks away. This is like that stupid stunt some Providence radio station pulled last year. (except I wanted them to sell out and die) On Mar 19, 2007, at 13:31, Wojtek wrote: Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
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On 3/20/07, Mike Melody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither is UR being distributed by itunes.com Hi, what do you mean by this? I didn't hear anyone claiming they were distributed on itunes. ~David
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Alas, if only this album was an april fool's joke! http://www.discogs.com/release/529613 On Mar 20, 2007, at 17:24, Mike Melody wrote: Neither is UR being distributed by itunes.com -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 17:29, David Powers wrote: Hi, what do you mean by this? I didn't hear anyone claiming they were distributed on itunes. Wow, look in the store. There they are. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
