Re: [AI] Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled
One other common trick by the insurance companies is denying medical insurance to those who have taken one (and are paying premium) saying that the ailment they have suffered from is not in the "list of ailments" covered by the insurance. This happened to one of my colleagues, who had to shell out a large sum to a private hospital and is still fighting with a private insurance company to get compensated for it. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh asudani Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:26 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled *** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. ***-*** Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled Staff Reporter MADURAI: The Madurai Bench of the Madras High Court has ruled that physically challenged people who meet with road accidents cannot be denied compensation on the ground that they are already suffering from a disability. Dismissing a civil appeal moved by the United India Insurance Company against the compensation granted to a polio affected person, Justice S. Manikumar said that refusing compensation for such persons would amount to discrimination and also a violation of Article 14 (equality before law) of the Constitution. "When a normal person is compensated for the disability suffered on account of the injury sustained in an accident, could it be different in the case of a disabled person, that too a person affected with polio," the Judge wondered. Expressing anguish over the attitude of the insurance company, he said: "It is unfortunate that the company had taken such a hard stand to challenge the physically challenged." Afflicted with polio, M. Balamurugan, 40, a petty shop owner at Tiruvanaikovil in Tiruchi, was thrown out of his hand-pedalled tricycle when a speeding two-wheeler rammed the vehicle on April 21, 2003. His right thigh bone fractured causing reduction of movement by 70 degrees and twisting capacity by 25 degrees. A doctor assessed the disability, pursuant to the accident, at 40 per cent and confirmed that the victim could not sit, squat or do hard work as he was doing before the accident. Relying upon the medical opinion, the Tiruchi Motor Accident Claims Tribunal on April 10, 2006 awarded a compensation of Rs.72, 000 with interest at the rate of 7.5 per cent per annum. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled
So, here was a general insurance company, ensuring the accident causing vehicle for damage to third party, and pleading that it is not liable to pay damages to the victim because he is already disabled! Height of absurdity! Rajesh - Original Message - From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "accessindia" Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: [AI] Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled > Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled > > Staff Reporter > > MADURAI: The Madurai Bench of the Madras High Court has ruled that > physically challenged people who meet with road accidents cannot be denied > compensation > on the ground that they are already suffering from a disability. > > Dismissing a civil appeal moved by the United India Insurance Company > against the compensation granted to a polio affected person, Justice S. > Manikumar > said that refusing compensation for such persons would amount to > discrimination and also a violation of Article 14 (equality before law) of > the Constitution. > > "When a normal person is compensated for the disability suffered on > account of the injury sustained in an accident, could it be different in > the case of > a disabled person, that too a person affected with polio," the Judge > wondered. > > Expressing anguish over the attitude of the insurance company, he said: > "It is unfortunate that the company had taken such a hard stand to > challenge the > physically challenged." > > Afflicted with polio, M. Balamurugan, 40, a petty shop owner at > Tiruvanaikovil in Tiruchi, was thrown out of his hand-pedalled tricycle > when a speeding > two-wheeler rammed the vehicle on April 21, 2003. His right thigh bone > fractured causing reduction of movement by 70 degrees and twisting > capacity by 25 > degrees. > > A doctor assessed the disability, pursuant to the accident, at 40 per cent > and confirmed that the victim could not sit, squat or do hard work as he > was > doing before the accident. > > Relying upon the medical opinion, the Tiruchi Motor Accident Claims > Tribunal on April 10, 2006 awarded a compensation of Rs.72, 000 with > interest at the > rate of 7.5 per cent per annum. > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Group I: State directed to provide jobs to physically-
Group I: State directed to provide jobs to physically-challenged under quota Legal Correspondent HYDERABAD: A Division Bench of the High Court comprising Justice J. Chalameshwar and Justice Appa Rao on Thursday directed the State Government to take steps to provide jobs under the reservation quota for physically challenged persons in Group I posts of all the departments. The Bench was dealing with a case wherein allegation was made that reservation was not being provided in Group-I cadre for the physically challenged. The Government took a stand that physically challenged persons cannot be accommodated in many of the departments and then agued that the police and fire services departments had to be kept out of the purview of reservation for the physically handicapped. Justice Chalameshwar, made it clear that there were enough posts in all the departments, which could be allotted to physically challenged persons. The Bench said that the State cannot escape from the responsibility as mandated in The Persons with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act, 1995. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled
Bench ruling on insurance claim to disabled Staff Reporter MADURAI: The Madurai Bench of the Madras High Court has ruled that physically challenged people who meet with road accidents cannot be denied compensation on the ground that they are already suffering from a disability. Dismissing a civil appeal moved by the United India Insurance Company against the compensation granted to a polio affected person, Justice S. Manikumar said that refusing compensation for such persons would amount to discrimination and also a violation of Article 14 (equality before law) of the Constitution. "When a normal person is compensated for the disability suffered on account of the injury sustained in an accident, could it be different in the case of a disabled person, that too a person affected with polio," the Judge wondered. Expressing anguish over the attitude of the insurance company, he said: "It is unfortunate that the company had taken such a hard stand to challenge the physically challenged." Afflicted with polio, M. Balamurugan, 40, a petty shop owner at Tiruvanaikovil in Tiruchi, was thrown out of his hand-pedalled tricycle when a speeding two-wheeler rammed the vehicle on April 21, 2003. His right thigh bone fractured causing reduction of movement by 70 degrees and twisting capacity by 25 degrees. A doctor assessed the disability, pursuant to the accident, at 40 per cent and confirmed that the victim could not sit, squat or do hard work as he was doing before the accident. Relying upon the medical opinion, the Tiruchi Motor Accident Claims Tribunal on April 10, 2006 awarded a compensation of Rs.72, 000 with interest at the rate of 7.5 per cent per annum. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] financial inclusion
Friends I am of the firm view that despite high talk about financial inclusion nowadays, it has not touched the disabled, particularly the visually impaired, as countless testimonies of the blind about flat denial of service by financial entities amply bear out. Be it banks, insurance entities or any other significant financial service, at present the visually challenged are a neglected lot. Perhaps, they see no business imperative in extending the service to the disabled. However, there surely is business sense and we have to convince them of it, besides, financial inclusion is not only out of business prudence but also, to large degree out of a host of social and economic imperatives. It is highly unfair that so-called champions of financial inclusion barely mention the disabled in their speeches, let alone taking their cognizance in policies. Case before CCPD about banking services to the blind has not yielded much except misconceived IBA guidelines. Institutions like RBI which ought to discharge their ultimate duty of financial/banking regulation, seldom condescend to oblige by incorporating judgments about such groups like disabled in implementable circulars. Let us systematically discuss and draft petitions to RBI, IRDA etc. and submit them and follow it up with commitment. I would be glad to receive suggestions about: Banking services and the blind and draft a petition to RBI. May any body else put in their valuable services for other sectors like insurance, markets etc.? Regards Rajesh To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
Hello Arup, As i mentioned earlier on this forum, i am in posession of IBA guidelines issued to all banks regarding operations of acount of VIs. If you need the same, please contact me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Chetan Sharma - Original Message - From: "mahendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. >i don't know about any guidelines from RBI, but i have single account > on my name from ICICI bank with all services, like ATM, net, phone > banking, and cheque book, > i am not sure, whether i got them because of NRO account. > > > At 09:56 PM 4/26/2007, you wrote: > >>Dear Friend, >> >>As far as I am aware, there is no circular prohibiting >>banks from allowing >>ATM cards, Debit Cards, Internet Banking or Telephone >>Banking facilities to >>blind individuals. >> >>Regards >>Sameer Latey >>Mumbai, India >>- Original Message - >>From: "Arup Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:08 AM >>Subject: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. >> >> >> > Dear friends, >> > recently I had approached SBI to convert my single >>user account into a >> > joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I >>thought I could open a >> > joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I >>had also asked for >> > cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But >>unfortunately none of these ware >> > met. >> > >> > What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular >>from RBI or any >> > competent authority about opening bank account >>Individual or joint by >> > blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or >>disallow a blind >> > person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? >> > >> > I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General >>Manager SBI about this >> > incident. >> > >> > Arup >> > To unsubscribe send a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make >>any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >>http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> >> >> >>__ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>To unsubscribe send a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. >> >>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>changes, please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > with warm regards >Mahendra Galani > msn ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype ID chintu3886 > phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055 +436769163888 +4381362988 > address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe > - > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
Hello Arup I think a few days ago, I had answered both of the questions in my mail about IBA guidelines. 1. A blind person can, according to guidelines, open a single/joint account at liberty. 2. Guidelines are silent about net banking, and allow ATM facility as a matter of grace and not as a matter of right. Third party cheques are not supposed to be issued on the signature of a blind person. This is what IBA has taken CCPD order about banking to mean, and RBI presumably preoccupied with more urgent matters, has chosen to maintain silence. However, inspite of this sorry state of affairs, I fail to comprehend why SBI should not convert your account into joint account with your niece and allow you requisite banking facilities. You may surely approach SBI officials and then, if the need be, banking ombudsman for West Bengal, who is a considerate RBI official. Rajesh Rajesh - Original Message - From: "Arup Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. > Dear friends, > recently I had approached SBI to convert my single user account into a > joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I thought I could open a > joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I had also asked for > cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But unfortunately none of these ware > met. > > What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular from RBI or any > competent authority about opening bank account Individual or joint by > blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or disallow a blind > person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? > > I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General Manager SBI about this > incident. > > Arup > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Researchers break Net speed records
HAHAHA! Apart from breaking internet speed records, researchers also seem to have broken time records, or invented a time machine, in order to have already sent data at such high speeds on December 30 2007!!! What an example of typographical futuristic fallacy!! Rajesh - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Access India" Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:50 AM Subject: [AI] Researchers break Net speed records > Researchers break Net speed records > Apr 26, 2007 > > NEW YORK: A group of researchers led by the University of Tokyo has > broken Internet speed records - twice in two days. Operators of the > high-speed Internet2 > network announced that the researchers on December 30, 2007 sent data at > 7.67 gigabits per second, using standard communications protocols. > > The next day, using modified protocols, the team broke the record again > by sending data over the same 20,000-mile path at 9.08 Gbps. > > This likely represents the current network's final record since rules > require a 10 per cent improvement for recognition, a percentage that would > bring > the next record right at the Internet2's current theoretical limit of 10 > Gbps. > > However, the Internet2 consortium is planning to build a new network > with a capacity of 100 Gbps. With the 10-fold increase, a high-quality > version of > the movie "The Matrix" could be sent in a few seconds rather than half a > minute over the current Internet2 and two days over a typical home > broadband line. > > > Researchers used the newer Internet addressing system, called IPv6, to > break the records in December. Data started in Tokyo and went to Chicago, > Amsterdam > and Seattle before returning to Tokyo. The previous high of 6.96 Gbps was > set in November 2005. > > Speed records under the older addressing system, IPv4, are in a separate > category and stand at 8.8 Gbps, set in February 2006. > > The Internet2 is run by a consortium of more than 200 US University. It > is currently working to merge with another ultrahigh-speed, > next-generation network, > National LambdaRail. > > The announcement of the new record was made at the Internet2 > consortium's spring meeting, which ends Wednesday in Arlington, Va. > > http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Researchers_break_Net_speed_records/RssArticleShow/articleshow/1954840.cms > > Vikas Kapoor, > MSN ID: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo ID: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype ID: dl_vikas > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
i don't know about any guidelines from RBI, but i have single account on my name from ICICI bank with all services, like ATM, net, phone banking, and cheque book, i am not sure, whether i got them because of NRO account. At 09:56 PM 4/26/2007, you wrote: >Dear Friend, > >As far as I am aware, there is no circular prohibiting >banks from allowing >ATM cards, Debit Cards, Internet Banking or Telephone >Banking facilities to >blind individuals. > >Regards >Sameer Latey >Mumbai, India >- Original Message - >From: "Arup Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:08 AM >Subject: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. > > > > Dear friends, > > recently I had approached SBI to convert my single >user account into a > > joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I >thought I could open a > > joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I >had also asked for > > cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But >unfortunately none of these ware > > met. > > > > What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular >from RBI or any > > competent authority about opening bank account >Individual or joint by > > blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or >disallow a blind > > person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? > > > > I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General >Manager SBI about this > > incident. > > > > Arup > > To unsubscribe send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make >any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > >http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >To unsubscribe send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. > >To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >changes, please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani msn ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055 +436769163888 +4381362988 address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Tally with jaws.
Rishi, You may try using Tally scripts available at NAB Delhi's website www.nabdelhi.org/computer.htm Have not tried but they would work well. Regards, Srinivasu -Original Message- From: Rishi Kewalramani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:09 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Tally with jaws. Hi friends, Is anybody using Tally, the accounting programme with Jaws? I wanted to know how accessible is it and if any scripts need to be installed for better performance. And any ideas with respect to entering of data into Tally from printed and hand-written bills etc with least dependence on others? Many thanks and regards, Rishi. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
Hello: There are no guidelines or rules by the RBI regarding VI's operating bank a/c's. In fact, it's high time they considering issuing one, because the number of VI bank users have been on the increase. Giving the mentioned facilities or denying it, therefore remains the knowledge or ignorance of the officer you are approaching. The problem is, one officer may grant these facilities and may get transferred elsewhere, and if a new officer comes to the branch in which you are operating you're a/c, he/she may deny all of them at one stroke. No arguing will do. This is the status as of now. If possible, all of us can sign a petition demanding the RBI to issue special guidelines or even a PIL. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arup Chakraborty Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:08 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. *** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. ***-*** Dear friends, recently I had approached SBI to convert my single user account into a joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I thought I could open a joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I had also asked for cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But unfortunately none of these ware met. What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular from RBI or any competent authority about opening bank account Individual or joint by blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or disallow a blind person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General Manager SBI about this incident. Arup To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Being the authorized user I can forward the issues to the freedom scientific. But it would be good if someone could structure the question properly and send it over to me. I could do it myself, but under a bit of tight schedule at the moment. - Original Message - From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. > Turnining > off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras > then > you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. > Rohit m > - Original Message - > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Harish >> >> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this >> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. >> >> For your success >> Syed Imran >> - Original Message - >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hi Syed >>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. >>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from >>> the >>> virtual buffer. >>> Harish. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>> >>> Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hello sir. > > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. > Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to > exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the > journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. > Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this > is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. > Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. > I'm clueless. > Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was > said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any > difference? > Moiz. > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 > From: "Syed Imran" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. > To: < > accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Moiz and my dear list members, > > This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any > data > from web pages in its original format including tables and > hyperlinks. > I > assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can > copy > the > exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to > you > that > the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I > hope > you > don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail > carefully. > Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious > technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web > documents > accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual > PC > cursor performs the function of copying and
Re: [AI] Tally with jaws.
Hello Sir, I tried Tally with jaws. Jaws is not compatible. Jaws scripts needs to be installed. Since jaws is not compatible I dropped the idea of learning tally. R. Sabari Priya. On 4/26/07, Rishi Kewalramani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi friends, > > Is anybody using Tally, the accounting programme with Jaws? > I wanted to know how accessible is it and if any scripts need to be > installed for better performance. > > And any ideas with respect to entering of data into Tally from printed and > hand-written bills etc with least dependence on others? > > Many thanks and regards, > Rishi. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] FW: Buying a laptop
Hi friends ! Waiting for your responses to my question on buying a laptop, forwarded below. Will appreciate feedback from members who have purchased recently so that my friend can learn from their experiences and avoid costly mistakes, if any. The budget can be upto Rs 40 - 45 k and let us help this brilliant student buy the best brand and configuration to aid her studies in the next 4 years. Thanks and regards RS M: 098 472 76 126 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sudhir R (NeSTIT) Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:01 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Buying a laptop Hi folks ! A student doing her second year degree course in Kerala is planning to purchase a laptop immediately. The laptop should be able to serve her requirements at least till she completes her PG which implies, if I guess correctly, it would need to be compatible to Vista and Vista-based applications, even though she may be running it on Win XP for the time being. Kindly advise the features one needs to incorporate from this forward compatibility angle. Specifically, will it need a 64 bit processor ? Since most of the Vista's much-touted graphics will be lost on us, is there any need for 1 GB RAM or Direct X.10 compatible Graphics card right now ? And, can we settle for a smaller screen size (12.1 inch) as it makes little difference for us ? Would appreciate if you could share your experiences with various brands and configurations, specifically with performance, ease of operation and after sales support points in mind. Thanks in advance and regards RS M: 98 472 76 126 To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. > Turnining > off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras > then > you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. > Rohit m > - Original Message - > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Harish >> >> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this >> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. >> >> For your success >> Syed Imran >> - Original Message - >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hi Syed >>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. >>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from >>> the >>> virtual buffer. >>> Harish. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>> >>> Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hello sir. > > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. > Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to > exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the > journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. > Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this > is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. > Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. > I'm clueless. > Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was > said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any > difference? > Moiz. > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 > From: "Syed Imran" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. > To: < > accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Moiz and my dear list members, > > This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any > data > from web pages in its original format including tables and > hyperlinks. > I > assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can > copy > the > exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to > you > that > the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I > hope > you > don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail > carefully. > Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious > technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web > documents > accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual > PC > cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, > links, > formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called > "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different > elements > on > a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in > a > seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a > sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to un
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m - Original Message - From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hi Harish > > Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this > feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. > > For your success > Syed Imran > - Original Message - > From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Syed >> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. >> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from >> the >> virtual buffer. >> Harish. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hi Moiz >>> >>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running >>> Windows XP? If not, no problem. >>> Just try this and let us know >>> >>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit >>> Jaws. >>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter >>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a >>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. >>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you >>> already >>> have opened >>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, >>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C >>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. >>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. >>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't >>> work >>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your >>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? >>> >>> For your success >>> Syed Imran >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>> >>> Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: "Syed Imran" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: < accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 Ho
[AI] FW: Free voice recognition software
Original message follows: - Original Message - From: "Jason Luchs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Student Disability" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Free voice recognition software Hi All, I thought that many of you might be interested in this info that I came by via a listserve I am part of. I can't tell you how good it is because I haven't yet used it, but I plan to check it out soon. Best, CoolSoft LLC Announces the Release of CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition Software CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition Software is a free download That Enables Users to Get Information from the Internet, Browse Webpages and Do Web Searches Entirely by Speech Recognition. Vero Beach, FL (PRWEB) April 24, 2007 -- CoolSoft, LLC (www.CoolSoftLLC.com) Announces the release of CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition, a free download that now makes speech recognition available to everyone using Windows 2000 or Windows XP. CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition is a free download that lets users get information from the Internet by speech, including news, weather, horoscopes, joke of the day and other news and weather websites of common interest. Users can also search Google, Yahoo, eBay and MSN entirely by voice. Other features let users create their own speech commands to start programs, open files, browse WebPages and make their computer speak back to them; and use the Windows calculator by talking. Paul Lagassey, founder and manager of CoolSoft, LLC said, "One of our goals is to make good quality software available to a wide community of users. We've come a long way towards achieving this goal with or flagship product SpeakToText 2.5 Speech Recognition and with our other title, Speak-to-Mail 1.0 Speech Recognition. The addition of CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition to our product line as a free download now makes it possible for everyone to have and use speech recognition." Lagassey went on to say "CoolInfo 1.10 Voice Recognition is a sponsored program. Our sponsors enable us to offer CoolInfo as a free download. Each of the wide variety of default speech commands delivers a spoken message and banner from one of our sponsors. Users benefit from having a fully functional and free speech recognition program with valuable non-sponsored features, and sponsors benefit by reaching their target audiences based on command(s) they sponsor. Sponsors can attach their messages to one or more default speech commands on a cost per impression basis; or they can license a full copy of CoolInfo with their customized content for distribution on their website as a promotional tool. CoolSoft has patents pending for this unique approach to web-based marketing." The program features include: Microsoft SAPI 5.1 speech to text engine and text to speech. Default speech commands let users speak commands to browse WebPages and do searches entirely by voice. Users can create their own speech commands to start programs, open files, browse WebPages, make their computer speak and much more. Speech enabled Windows calculator. A "What Can I Say?" dialog shows available speech commands. Documentation and how to video makes it easy to setup and train speech recognition and use CoolInfo. Free updates to the latest version. Download for free at http://www.CoolSoftLLC.com/CoolInfo/Register. Read overview at http://www.coolsoftllc.com/main.asp?product=61. View demo at http://coolsoftllc.com/CoolInfo/CoolInfoDemo/CoolInfoDemo.htm. About CoolSoft, LLC CoolSoft, LLC is a privately held Florida limited liability company, dedicated to creating and developing software applications that are fun and easy to use, practical and affordable. Speech recognition software is of particular interest to us. Please visit our website http://www.coolsoftllc.com for more information or to view our roster of free downloads. To learn about sponsoring CoolInfo to promote your website and products, send an email to SupportCoolSoftLLC.com and include "Request for CoolInfo Voice Recognition Sponsor Information" in the subject line. CONTACT INFORMATION: Tania Lavoratore CoolSoft, LLC 954-232-7700 TaniaCoolSoftLLC.com http://www.CoolSoftLLC.com Jason Luchs Assistant Director of Student Disability Services The New School 79 Fifth Ave. - 5th Floor New York, N.Y. 10003 1-212-229-5626 ext 3135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam, PhD candidate, Department of sociology, The New School for Social Research, 65 fifth avenue, New York, New York 10003. Home 610 West 145th Street, APT 1N, New York, New York 10031. Phone: 1-919-457-3251. E-mails: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skipe ID: vetrivelmurugan To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_acces
Re: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
Dear Friend, As far as I am aware, there is no circular prohibiting banks from allowing ATM cards, Debit Cards, Internet Banking or Telephone Banking facilities to blind individuals. Regards Sameer Latey Mumbai, India - Original Message - From: "Arup Chakraborty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: [AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry. > Dear friends, > recently I had approached SBI to convert my single user account into a > joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I thought I could open a > joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I had also asked for > cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But unfortunately none of these ware > met. > > What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular from RBI or any > competent authority about opening bank account Individual or joint by > blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or disallow a blind > person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? > > I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General Manager SBI about this > incident. > > Arup > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] refusal by SBI the same old storry.
Dear friends, recently I had approached SBI to convert my single user account into a joint account with my niece. I am a bachelor so I thought I could open a joint account with any of my relatives or friends. I had also asked for cheque, ATM and Net Banking facility. But unfortunately none of these ware met. What I want to know is 1. if there is any circular from RBI or any competent authority about opening bank account Individual or joint by blind persons, 2. is there any circular to allow or disallow a blind person from having ATM and Net Banking facility? I am thinking of sending an e-mail to Chief General Manager SBI about this incident. Arup To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Dear Moiz, I have tried several times to copy articles from website to MS word. my attempts yielded no good fruits. to overcome this barrier, Now-a-days, I am copying an article from a website to my e-mail edit boxes. It serves the purpose. Regds Sathiyaprakash >>> "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/26/2007 3:04 AM >>> Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: "Syed Imran" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: < accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. We
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hi Syed > A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. > Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from > the > virtual buffer. > Harish. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Moiz >> >> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running >> Windows XP? If not, no problem. >> Just try this and let us know >> >> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit >> Jaws. >> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter >> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a >> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. >> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already >> have opened >> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, >> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C >> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. >> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. >> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't >> work >> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your >> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? >> >> For your success >> Syed Imran >> - Original Message - >> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hello sir. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >>> I'm clueless. >>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >>> difference? >>> Moiz. >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >>> From: "Syed Imran" < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >>> To: < >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >>> >>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >>> data >>> from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. >>> I >>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy >>> the >>> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you >>> that >>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope >>> you >>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >>> carefully. >>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >>> documents >>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC >>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >>> links, >>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements >>> on >>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a >>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by >>> an >>> example. >>> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >>> exactly >>> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for >>> us. >>> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >>> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >>> explorer >>> >>> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >>> virtualised) >>> -- >>> >>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>> >>> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >>> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough >>> salt >>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are >>> added. The pickle >>> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >>> stir >>> and take the pickle from the jar. The
[AI] Menus That Talk(TM) - Restaurant Menus Get Table Smarts
Menus That Talk(TM) - Restaurant Menus Get Table Smarts Menus That Talk(TM) - Restaurant Menus Get Table Smarts Miami company introduces portable electronic menus that speak; uniquely serves the special needs of the visually impaired, elderly and non-English speaking guests MIAMI, April 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Taylannas Inc. announces the launch of an electronic restaurant menu system, Menus That Talk(TM), a portable, compact device, approximately the size of a DVD case, that speaks to restaurant guests, describing selected food items from the hand-held unit's illuminated buttons. A lighted array of buttons displays major menu categories like DRINKS, APPETIZERS and SEAFOOD. Guests simply press a button corresponding to a category and hear brief descriptions of cuisine, wine suggestions, sides and prices. At the touch of a button, Menus That Talk describes what's for dinner. No habla ingles? No problem: Just press the language button for Spanish or another language. No more squinting in dim light or turning page after page of complex printed menus. No more awkward conferences with busy waiters. Ready to order? A Service button pages your waiter. For the visually disabled, the buttons are also imprinted in Braille. Guests who can't see the button names and don't use Braille can browse the menu simply by tapping buttons to hear categories. Another tap brings up the details. In noisy restaurants or for the hearing-impaired, Menus That Talk features a detachable hand-held earphone. The earphone also interfaces with Tele-coil equipped hearing-aids. Menus That Talk(TM) serves the needs and comforts of all restaurant patrons with its simple layout, ease of use and ability to deliver voice anywhere in the restaurant. Benefits for the restaurants include streamlining menu selections, reducing server assistance time and bringing the menu to a larger, appreciative audience. "Menus should be able to communicate without being a challenge," said President and CEO Susan Perry. "We're making a restaurant's entire menu available to all its customers, and we're making it a pleasurable experience." The idea originated in an Olive Garden restaurant where Ms. Perry was having lunch with her niece Jessica, a pretty 24-year-old with advanced macular degeneration who cannot read a menu from any distance. Jessica asked her aunt to please read the menu to her. Susan had forgotten to bring her reading glasses. They laughed about it, but Susan thought, "Why shouldn't menus be able to talk?" Menus That Talk(TM) premieres to the public at the National Restaurant Association show in Chicago, May 19-22, 2007. More: http://www.menusthattalk.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hi Moiz > > Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running > Windows XP? If not, no problem. > Just try this and let us know > > 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit > Jaws. > 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter > You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a > screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. > 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already > have opened > Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, > 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C > 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. > 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. > I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't > work > Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your > collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? > > For your success > Syed Imran > - Original Message - > From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hello sir. >> >> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >> I'm clueless. >> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >> difference? >> Moiz. >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >> From: "Syed Imran" < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >> To: < >> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >> >> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >> data >> from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I >> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy >> the >> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you >> that >> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope >> you >> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >> carefully. >> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >> documents >> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC >> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >> links, >> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements >> on >> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a >> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by >> an >> example. >> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >> exactly >> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for >> us. >> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >> explorer >> >> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >> virtualised) >> -- >> >> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >> >> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough >> salt >> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are >> added. The pickle >> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >> stir >> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is >> used. >> >> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of >> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. >> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line >> to >> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an >> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about >> the >> same in the 2nd
Re: [AI] Doubt
What about using the Jaws cursor? Harish. - Original Message - From: "sabari priya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt > Hello sir, > > I tried your suggestion. The result is unsatisfactory. > Jaws doesn't lable the graphics. > > R. Sabari Priya > > > > On 4/26/07, Harish Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi There >> Try labeling the graphics using insert+ctrl+ G. >> Besides if you use the Jaws cursor, You would have better chances >> clicking >> the User interface >> Harish >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "sabari priya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:33 AM >> Subject: [AI] Doubt >> >> >> > Hello everybody, >> > >> > Does Jaws work with all applications created using Visual Basic? >> > >> > I have a software named Vanigam--a billing software for departmental >> > stores created using VB. Jaws doesn't support that software. Is it >> > necessary to write scripts in order to make jaws to work with vanigam. >> > >> > Any suggestion is welcome? >> > >> > R. Sabari Priya. >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Tally with jaws.
Hi friends, Is anybody using Tally, the accounting programme with Jaws? I wanted to know how accessible is it and if any scripts need to be installed for better performance. And any ideas with respect to entering of data into Tally from printed and hand-written bills etc with least dependence on others? Many thanks and regards, Rishi. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Hard-Drive Failures Surprisingly Frequent
Hard-Drive Failures Surprisingly Frequent Apr 26, 2007 Your hard drive may not be as reliable as manufacturers would like you to think. Recent studies by researchers at Carnegie Mellon and Google suggest that vendor Mean Time To Failure (MTTF) ratings for hard drives are a bit misleading. The Carnegie Mellon study, conducted at several locations, found typical failure rates of 2 to 4 percent and a high of 13 percent, in contrast to the less than 1 percent you'd expect based on vendor MTTF ratings (see chart or click on the thumbnail image below). Google's study pegged the annual failure rate at about 3 percent. Click here for full-size image. Both studies were based on observations of approximately 100,000 drives, with Google looking at its own farm of consumer-grade disks and Carnegie Mellon examining both consumer-grade drives and the ostensibly more reliable enterprise variety; the latter have beefed-up actuator magnets, more-robust spindle motors, and advanced features such as rotational vibration safeguards. Vendors attribute part of the discrepancy between their ratings and the findings in these reports to differing definitions of disk failure. For vendors, it's when a drive fails on one read or write attempt within a set period--typically about 24 hours--on the test bench. Vendors say that, by that criterion, nearly 40 percent of returned drives have not actually failed. The two new studies, however, consider failure to be any symptom that causes a user--presumably, in both cases, experienced IT types--to replace the drive. Such symptoms include software problems, driver conflicts, and the like, as well as drive failure as defined by vendors. Also, vendors base MTTF numbers on the past performance of similar drives; no one tries running a new model for years to prove it will last. Surprisingly, Google's study found no correlation between drive failure and elevated heat and activity levels. The largest percentage of failures occurred on drives operating within a mild 77-to-88-degree range. However, desktop PCs typically operate at temperatures well over the maximum of 125 degrees reported in the Google study, so the findings do not support running hard drives without adequate airflow to cool them. Google found that failure rates varied significantly according to make and model, but the company declined to identify failure-prone models. Carnegie Mellon points out that bad manufacturing runs occur and that improvements over the past few years may be yielding more-reliable drives. Google's study relied in part on SMART (Self-Monitoring And Reporting Technology) data from drives that have this feature. But so many drives failed without any SMART warnings that Google concluded the feature was not helpful in predicting real-world failure patterns. Google's findings do support one tip: If you encounter a scan error during a routine error check (by running Scandisk, for example), your drive is 39 times more likely to fail within 60 days than drives that don't show such errors. IT pros recommend replacing a drive with scan errors. The most likely immediate fallout from these reports is that vendors will stop touting MTTF figures. In my online research, MTTF figures for consumer drives were already few and far between. Corporate buyers might rethink purchasing plans in light of Carnegie Mellon's finding that fiber-channel and SCSI drives appear no more reliable than the cheaper SATA variety. But IDC analyst David Reinsel says fiber-channel and SCSI drives are still worthwhile when performance matters. For most of us, these reports simply reemphasize the need for smart practices. Keep your drives cool and, most important, backed up so that if failure occurs, it's merely an inconvenience and not a financial or emotional disaster. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131168-pg,1/article.html Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Sony's Announces Tiny High-Def Camcorder
Sony's Announces Tiny High-Def Camcorder Apr 26, 2007 Sony's Announces Tiny High-Def Camcorder Sony's HDR-CX7, its smallest high-def camcorder yet, records video to a MemoryStick Pro Duo card. Martyn Williams, IDG News Service Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:00 AM PDT Sony Corp. has announced its smallest high-definition camcorder to date. The HDR-CX7, which is due to go on sale in June, records 1080i high-definition video directly to a MemoryStick Pro Duo card. Until now its camcorders have relied on MiniDV tape, DVD discs or hard-disk drives to store video, but the memory card slot and associated electronic take up less space and mean a smaller, lighter camera. Using a memory card also means that getting video into a PC is as easy as removing the card from the camera and slotting it into a card reader. The video must still be copied to the PC's hard-disk for viewing, but a software upgrade due mid-year will make it possible to watch video directly from high-speed Pro Duo- or Pro HG-type MemoryStick cards on both a PC and the PlayStation 3. The flash memory-based recording also helps reduce power consumption and noise over other methods. But it doesn't come without disadvantages. Memory cards are quite expensive, and users will be able to store only about 30 minutes of video on a 4G-byte card in the camera's highest quality mode. Behind the lens is a 3-megapixel image sensor, and the camera can also capture 6-megapixel still images, Sony said. Other features include a 10x optical zoom lens and a 2.7-inch wide-screen, touch-sensitive LCD (liquid crystal display) monitor. The CX7 weighs 450 grams and measures 69 millimeters by 67mm by 129mm. It will cost about US$1,200 in the U.S. Sony will also begin selling two hard-disk drive-based HD camcorders in June. The HDR-SR7 has a 60G-byte drive and the HDR-SR5 a 40G-byte drive. The SR7 comes with the same 3-megapixel image sensor used in the CX7, while the SR5 uses a 2-megapixel sensor. In the U.S. the cameras will cost $1,400 and $1,100, respectively. Prices and launch dates for other markets have not been announced. All three camcorders record in the AVCHD format, which was developed by Sony and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. Ltd. (Panasonic) and uses MPEG4 compression. On Thursday Sony also announced an update to its Vegas 7 video editing software that adds support for AVCHD files. An upgrade for the consumer "Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition 8" software, adding AVCHD support, will be available from July, Sony said. Authentic-looking e-mails target threaten bodily harm if recipients do not pay thousands of dollars to the sender. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131242-pg,1/article.html Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Researchers break Net speed records
I think the date should be Dec 30, 2006. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:21 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Researchers break Net speed records *** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. ***-*** Researchers break Net speed records Apr 26, 2007 NEW YORK: A group of researchers led by the University of Tokyo has broken Internet speed records - twice in two days. Operators of the high-speed Internet2 network announced that the researchers on December 30, 2007 sent data at 7.67 gigabits per second, using standard communications protocols. The next day, using modified protocols, the team broke the record again by sending data over the same 20,000-mile path at 9.08 Gbps. This likely represents the current network's final record since rules require a 10 per cent improvement for recognition, a percentage that would bring the next record right at the Internet2's current theoretical limit of 10 Gbps. However, the Internet2 consortium is planning to build a new network with a capacity of 100 Gbps. With the 10-fold increase, a high-quality version of the movie "The Matrix" could be sent in a few seconds rather than half a minute over the current Internet2 and two days over a typical home broadband line. Researchers used the newer Internet addressing system, called IPv6, to break the records in December. Data started in Tokyo and went to Chicago, Amsterdam and Seattle before returning to Tokyo. The previous high of 6.96 Gbps was set in November 2005. Speed records under the older addressing system, IPv4, are in a separate category and stand at 8.8 Gbps, set in February 2006. The Internet2 is run by a consortium of more than 200 US University. It is currently working to merge with another ultrahigh-speed, next-generation network, National LambdaRail. The announcement of the new record was made at the Internet2 consortium's spring meeting, which ends Wednesday in Arlington, Va. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Researchers_break_Net_speed_records/ RssArticleShow/articleshow/1954840.cms Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Researchers break Net speed records
Researchers break Net speed records Apr 26, 2007 NEW YORK: A group of researchers led by the University of Tokyo has broken Internet speed records - twice in two days. Operators of the high-speed Internet2 network announced that the researchers on December 30, 2007 sent data at 7.67 gigabits per second, using standard communications protocols. The next day, using modified protocols, the team broke the record again by sending data over the same 20,000-mile path at 9.08 Gbps. This likely represents the current network's final record since rules require a 10 per cent improvement for recognition, a percentage that would bring the next record right at the Internet2's current theoretical limit of 10 Gbps. However, the Internet2 consortium is planning to build a new network with a capacity of 100 Gbps. With the 10-fold increase, a high-quality version of the movie "The Matrix" could be sent in a few seconds rather than half a minute over the current Internet2 and two days over a typical home broadband line. Researchers used the newer Internet addressing system, called IPv6, to break the records in December. Data started in Tokyo and went to Chicago, Amsterdam and Seattle before returning to Tokyo. The previous high of 6.96 Gbps was set in November 2005. Speed records under the older addressing system, IPv4, are in a separate category and stand at 8.8 Gbps, set in February 2006. The Internet2 is run by a consortium of more than 200 US University. It is currently working to merge with another ultrahigh-speed, next-generation network, National LambdaRail. The announcement of the new record was made at the Internet2 consortium's spring meeting, which ends Wednesday in Arlington, Va. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Researchers_break_Net_speed_records/RssArticleShow/articleshow/1954840.cms Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Free 2 Mbps broadband by 2009
Free 2 Mbps broadband by 2009 Apr 26, 2007 NEW DELHI: The government proposes to offer free, high-speed broadband connectivity to all Indians by 2009, through state-owned telecom service providers BSNL and MTNL. While consumers will cheer it, the move holds the potential to kill the telecom business as we know it. You may have heard of free municipal broadband-many cities in the US have drenched themselves in wireless broadband connectivity, freely accessible to residents. The idea is to boost economic activity in general. The central government plans to achieve free broadband connectivity at a speed of 2 MB per second across the country, with a similar goal. Senior government officials expect to be able to achieve this goal by spending only a portion of the burgeoning corpus of the Universal Service Obligation Fund (USOF)-all telecom operators contribute 5% of their revenues every year to this fund. It is estimated that the unutilised sum from USOF touched Rs 9,194.12 crore by March 2007. The current technological trend is for voice calls also to shift to the internet, using voice over internet protocol (VoIP). The quality of VoIP calls, patchy to start off with, has been improving steadily over the years, and by 2009, is likely to be as good as current analogue calls that establish a circuit between the calling and called parties. When that happens, revenue streams from calls would dry up and telecom companies would need to develop value-added applications to make money from the connectivity they provide for free or virtually free. The Department of Telecom (DoT) will be taking a series of steps to make its plans for free broadband a reality. These include using the Universal Service Obligation Fund to set up an extensive optic cable network across the country and opening up the long-distance sectors to further competition. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Free_2_Mbps_broadband_by_2009/RssArticleShow/articleshow/1957303.cms Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Free broadband, rent-free landlines likely: Maran
Free broadband, rent-free landlines likely: Maran President A P J Abdul Kalam, in his address to a joint sitting of Parliament on February 23, had said that 2007 would be the year of broadband. India's Telecom and IT Minister Dayanidhi Maran wants to take that a little further: he wants broadband for the country to be entirely free, soon. In an interaction with the press, Maran said that free broadband service in India could soon become a reality. He also said that zero-rental landline phones too might soon see the light of day. When asked about the time it would take to bring his dream to fruition, he said, "I still have two more years." "Broadband is a priority area for us," he said. "We have set a target of 9 million broadband connections this year, out of which BSNL and MTNL will do 7 million, while the remaining will be done by the private operators." He said that bandwidth costs too are likely to see a drastic reduction shortly with BSNL and MTNL planning to host web servers within the country by the middle of this year. Maran said these PSUs would set up web servers, which will enable the internet traffic to be diverted within India instead of being routed out of the country. This will reduce bandwidth costs significantly, he said, adding that Internet access charges would also come down. TRAI has already sent its recommendations on National Internet Exchange of India to the Telecom Ministry. The purpose of NIXI was to ensure that internet traffic be routed within India. With the target of 250 million phones looking achievable ahead of this year's December deadline, the government is planning to have 500 million connections by 2010, besides 9 million broadband lines by 2007-end. He said although telecom penetration is happening in urban areas, the picture in rural areas is bad and out of the targeted 500 million phones by 2010, he wants one-fifth of it or 100 million phones to be in rural areas. Maran said by the end of this year, rural telecom connections could touch 50 million and and the remaining 50 million over the next two years. To make this possible, 8,000 towers would come up under the infrastructure sharing programme and by 2009-10, he said another 10,000 towers would be in these areas to support the rural telecom connections. As of now there are 2.7 million broadband connections in the country, he said, adding that from next month government will start massive roll out campaign for this target. The minister said demand for BSNL and MTNL's broadband services was overwhelming and to the extent that the two PSU companies were unable to meet it. At present, BSNL is present in 800 cities, where it offers broadband services. AGENCIES http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/apr/26broad.htm Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Now Internet on mobile 24x7, thanks to Star
Now Internet on mobile 24x7, thanks to Star Star India has launched an internet facility for mobile users, especially targeted at small-end and rural users. The new mobile application termed PLUS is at present available for free and is accessible on Hutch, Idea, BPL, BSNL, Spice and Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Limited. "Star India is aiming at a small-end user with a high-end handset to explore the range of internet without a computer and access the net for free," Viren Popli, senior vice president, Star India Mobile Entertainment, told PTI. "The facility we hope will benefit all mobile users but we are targeting the rural user," Popli said, adding "the repertoire of data is quite large." "Mobile users can try out the deal for a month for free and if they choose to stay with it we will charge a minimal monthly subscription of Rs 30 for PLUS," Popli said. A myriad avenues can be explored on PLUS which is "a one-stop gateway to entertainment, information and services," Yash Khanna also of Star India said. Star has effected a two-way tie up with data providers and mobile service providers, including Hutch, BSNL, Idea, BPL, Spice and MTNL who will make PLUS available to their users. "So far it is a Rs 15 crore (Rs 150 million) investment by Star India," he said. The PLUS bouquet includes synopses of T V serials, video clippings, MTV and other music videos, banking data, travel data and news, sports and entertainment updates. "It is the largest repertoire in India." © Copyright 2007 PTI. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of PTI content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent. http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/apr/26star.htm Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
Instead of going into the edit menu and executing all the necessary commands from there, you can temporarily turn your virtual cursor off and execute the same commands with the control key and then turn it on again after doing this and then take the desired action in the word. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from Jaws virtual buffer. 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including pictures, tables, links etc. 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. Some tips: 1. If you don't want pictures,
[AI] A disabled not-so-well-known achiever
Source: http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg18925331.200-take-a-leap-into-hyperspace.html Who was Burkhard Heim? Burkhard Heim had a remarkable life. Born in 1925 in Potsdam, Germany, he decided at the age of 6 that he wanted to become a rocket scientist. He disguised his designs in code so that no one could discover his secret. And in the cellar of his parents' house, he experimented with high explosives. But this was to lead to disaster. Towards the end of the second world war, he worked as an explosives developer, and an accident in 1944 in which a device exploded in his hands left him permanently disabled. He lost both his forearms, along with 90 per cent of his hearing and eyesight. After the war, he attended university in Göttingen to study physics. The idea of propelling a spacecraft using quantum mechanics rather than rocket fuel led him to study general relativity and quantum mechanics. It took an enormous effort. From 1948, his father and wife replaced his senses, spending hours reading papers and transcribing his calculations onto paper. And he developed a photographic memory. Supporters of Heim theory claim that it is a panacea for the troubles in modern physics. They say it unites quantum mechanics and general relativity, can predict the masses of the building blocks of matter from first principles, and can even explain the state of the universe 13.7 billion years ago. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Microsoft releases public beta of Windows Server 'Longhorn'
The Hindu News Update Service News Update Service Thursday, April 26, 2007 : 0955 Hrs Sci. & Tech. Microsoft releases public beta of Windows Server 'Longhorn' Seattle, April 26 (AP): The first public ``beta'' release of Microsoft Corp.'s next-generation Windows Server operating system, code-named Longhorn, is now widely available, the company said. The Redmond-based company's last major overhaul to the server OS was in 2003. Longhorn is more secure, and makes servers - behind-the-scenes computers that handle e-mail, Web traffic and file-sharing, among other tasks - easier for information-technology professionals to manage than previous versions of the software, Bob Visse, a senior director in Microsoft's Windows Server group, said on Wednesday. One Longhorn development, ``network access protection,'' examines employees' computers every time they log onto the company network. If the PCs do not have up-to-date antivirus programs, for example, they are quarantined until the problem is fixed. Longhorn can also be installed in pieces. IT managers can decide what tasks they want the server to perform, then install just the necessary functions. Less software means fewer programs to keep updated with security patches, and fewer places for hackers to attack, Visse said. He said he expects ``hundreds of thousands'' of companies to test the beta, and that Microsoft is on track to finish work on the software by the end of the year. Michael Cherry, an analyst at the independent research group Directions on Microsoft, said the network access protection feature is ``a good step,'' but noted that other companies, such as Cisco Systems Inc., offer similar products. Cherry also said the ability to instal only as many functions as needed is the most exciting new Windows Server feature. Besides being more secure and less of a space-hog, the new software brings Windows Server in line with Linux, an open-source alternative Cherry said many companies choose because it can be slimmed down in this way. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hello sir. > > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. > Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to > exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the > journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. > Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this > is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. > Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. > I'm clueless. > Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was > said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any > difference? > Moiz. > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 > From: "Syed Imran" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. > To: < > accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Moiz and my dear list members, > > This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data > from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I > assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy > the > exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you > that > the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope > you > don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. > Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious > technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents > accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC > cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, > links, > formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called > "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements > on > a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a > seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a > sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by > an > example. > I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how > exactly > a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for > us. > I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to > understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet > explorer > > I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not > virtualised) > -- > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The > fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough > salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are > added. The pickle > are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir > and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is > used. > > In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of > the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. > But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line > to > present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an > extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the > same in the 2nd illustration: > ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some > LINK fruits and > LINK vegetables > preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is > cut > into pieces and enough salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. > LINK Oil > and > LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a > Link dry jar > with a tight lid. A dry
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Moiz What is it's URL (universal resource locator)? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hello. > There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no > other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary > line breaks. > Moiz. > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530 > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > To: > accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, > > I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. > However, > with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a > password > protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C &Cont. V will > work. > > -- > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Unsubscrition.
Sir, If you had followed the instructions in the last part of each messages from a i, The postings will be stopped. Renuka. - Original Message - From: "S.G.S. Sisodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: [AI] Unsubscrition. > Hello sir! > Please, stop posting mails to me. > SGS SISODIA > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hello. There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary line breaks. Moiz. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. However, with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C &Cont. V will work. -- To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: "Syed Imran" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: < accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets d
Re: [AI] Doubt
Hello sir, I tried your suggestion. The result is unsatisfactory. Jaws doesn't lable the graphics. R. Sabari Priya On 4/26/07, Harish Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi There > Try labeling the graphics using insert+ctrl+ G. > Besides if you use the Jaws cursor, You would have better chances clicking > the User interface > Harish > > - Original Message - > From: "sabari priya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:33 AM > Subject: [AI] Doubt > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > Does Jaws work with all applications created using Visual Basic? > > > > I have a software named Vanigam--a billing software for departmental > > stores created using VB. Jaws doesn't support that software. Is it > > necessary to write scripts in order to make jaws to work with vanigam. > > > > Any suggestion is welcome? > > > > R. Sabari Priya. > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi, I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. However, with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C &Cont. V will work. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
Excellent. I normally use the paste special option under edit menu in ms word. The default choice under this menu is as html. Using ctrl+v performs it. But it also gives option for pasting unformatted text etc. Using this feature pastes the text only retaining line breaks. Best regards, Amiyo. Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. > Hello Moiz and my dear list members, > > This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data > from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I > assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the > exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that > the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you > don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. > Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious > technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents > accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC > cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, > formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called > "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on > a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a > seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a > sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an > example. > I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly > a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. > I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to > understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet > explorer > > I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not > virtualised) > -- > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The > fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are > added. The pickle > are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir > and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is > used. > > > In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of > the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. > But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to > present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an > extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the > same in the 2nd illustration: > ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some > LINK fruits and > LINK vegetables > preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut > into pieces and enough salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. > LINK Oil > and > LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a > Link dry jar > with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the > jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. > > > > So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. > However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the > text broken something like this: > > Some > fruits and > vegetables > Instead of: > Some fruits and vegetables > We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then > back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. > Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from > internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A > to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact > information without line or page breaks. > > 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy > > 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. > > 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. > We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because > Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be > the cause of your problem. > > 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. > Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit > menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from Jaws > virtual buffer. > > 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. > > 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. > This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including > pictures, tables, link
