Re: [AI] Mobility

2011-09-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
No, no, Bhavani Bhai, I am not so fortunate, at times have not even been 
allowed an escort, let alone a female one!



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR 
VERMA
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:39 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Mobility

ofcourse sir, hope to see you with a female escort whenever we meet!

- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Mobility


 Well, Amar, why a Man only?
 A girl/lady would serve the purpose equally well,  or perhaps better.
 Smile!!
 It only shows our paternalistic linguistic bias.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:26 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Mobility

 Rahul,
 My personal view is that you should appoint a man who can act as a driver
 and as assistant both.
 Regards
 -Original Message-
 From: Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:55 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Mobility

 Hi all,

 First of all, thank you for your valuable views.
 Even I mostly take the help of sighted guides, but it sometimes
 becomes difficult to find a sighted guide for going everywhere.
 Have you appointed a person specifically for assisting you, or do you
 take the help of family members and friends?

 On 21/09/2011, yusuf yusuftajma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friend
 I use white cane everywhere
 but, if somebody is ready to go with me
 then I take sighted assistance.
 and I don't wait for sighted assistance.
 - Original Message -
 From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Mobility


 white cane.
 if sighted assistance available, then opt for sighted assistance.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:00 AM
 Subject: [AI] Mobility


 Hi all,

 I hope you all are doing well.
 I have a question for everyone.
 My question is, which mobility option do you usually opt for when you
 go to a public place like a restaurant or a shopping mall?
 Do you use a white cane, or do you take the help of a sighted guide?
 According to you, which of these options is more suitable?
 Please do let me know your views on this matter.
 Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Rahul

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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, Mahendra,  sighted person may also err and may imperil life.
However, there is no gainsaying the fact that data obtained from sight is 
dynamic and much more abundant than by other senses, and while moving, it 
matters a lot.
Of course, mobility skills must be developed, I never denied it, but there are 
certain limits to the independent mobility of totally, and I say, totally blind.
Besides, if the escort is available, and affordable, there being no privacy 
concerns, who would  unnecessarily like to venture unescorted and hazard one's 
life limb safety, given the fact one has filial responsibilities to tackle.

As per social dignity, it is a matter of interpretation, and this world which 
operates at the most surfacical level, it is vain to expect that fumbling 
around will be taken as trying at one's best.



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Anirban Mukherjee
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for self-reliance. but what
i would like to draw every body's attention is that the point that Mr
Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is absolutely
valid. it is insulting to say the least. there should be discretion of
making my own choices for me.

On 9/22/11, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 Dear Rajesh

 i only agree with your thurd point,

 to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility is very much
 wrong.
 sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we must take
 responsibility
 for our life, and not totaly put responsibility  on the shoulders of others.

 secondly  because of dependence on sighted, social dignity is compromised,
 and not because you have to fumble around, it shows you are trying your
 best.










 At 09:21 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
Dear Srinivasu
Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much problems in
mobility as totally blind do.
It is not impossible to manage without escort, I have done it
myself, travelling on Nagpur Roads in student days, and even
travelling all alone in trains in UP, bringing my elder sister who
is herself blind with her kids from Lucknow to Nagpur, all by myself.
My point is, without escort,
1. The mobility is fraught with inherent risks, sometimes of life.
2. More often than not, social dignity is compromised, as you have
to fumble around.
3. Your freedom, particularly in new surroundings, is greatly curtailed.

As a result, one should opt for an escort, if one is able to afford,
and escort is available, except in situations where privacy is of
utmost importance.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:25 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

Hi All,
Honestly, I got this curiosity with recent thread raised by Rajesh.

I know, there area lot of members in the group, who widely travel and I see
them traveling all alone. I even see people like Jean, who never ask for
help at the venues. I am curious how would people with total blindness can
manage to be alone at conferences etc.Also, any of you come across tips to
network with the people in the events.I don't consider myself to answer any
of the above, although I travel a lot, but I could fairly see. So I don't
think, this would be of any problem to people with low vision.

Any tips would also help me to share with our students at NAB.

Thanks a lot,
-Srinivasu

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Re: [AI] hi

2011-09-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
!!!

 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness


 Who said retina India is working for problems of VI?
 They believe in curing and curing it only.
 It is a medical organization espousing medical purpose.
 Consequently, they, like doctors in general, cannot be expected to have an

 awareness about life with blindness.
 In fact, instead of what RI is doing at the convention, i.e. making blind
 listen to Ophthalmologists, it should be doing the converse, I.E. Making
 ophthalmologists listen to blind about life with blindness.
 This is because more often than not, ophthalmologist is the first point of

 contact for a person coming to know of her his blindness, and
 ophthalmologist creates first impressions of future life of a person with
 her or his blindness.
 So, it is only proper that they are aware of life's  possibilities with
 blindness.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:04 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness

 Hello,
 It is with deep sorrow in informing all of you that few days ago when
 I approach RPI for getting registered myself for the convention with
 escort over the telephone I first had to wait long for communication
 and then don't know phone line was getting disconnected several times.
 After long efforts, I could get through.

 While requesting for the escort permission for the convention, I had
 been informed that common escort would be shared amongst small group
 of VI persons during the convention hence, you need not bring your
 individual escort.

 I do understand the huge response they may have received for the
 convention since it is organised at national level but my point of
 concern is they should have analyse the difficulties in advance prior
 to organising this event because in outdoor programs VI person feel
 more convenient with individual escort at several occasions. Further
 not only this but the way of replying over  the phone was also very
 strange wich can not be discussed on the public forum.

 I have nothing against any organisation but just to let you know about
 my pain. Since communication was made over the phone I afraid giving
 any evidence but with the feeling that this pain can be served as eye
 opener for any organisation working  for the blind to be aware about
 the prospective scenarios to handle the problems of vi persons before
 arranging any event, I shared this with you.


 On 9/21/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 HAHAHA
 Blindness has to be only cured, or overcome Not to be lived with,
 Isn't
 it?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
 Sahu
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:08 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness

 Very strange...
 How can being faculty supplement the need of escort?
 Or, does it mean that the blindness of participants is only worth
 allowing for carrying escorts and faculty members have some kind of
 superpower to overcome their blindness?


 On 9/20/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 sir, better you should lodge a written complaint against them. soft copy
 does not fulfil the purpose.

 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:05 PM
 Subject: [AI] Insult to blindness


 Friends
 It is with deep remorse that I am informing you of shameful behaviour
 of
 an organization called Retina India.
 RI is holding a national convention in Delhi on September 24 and 25.
 They invited me and my brother Dr. Prof. Vinod Asudani, for some
 sessions
 in the said convention.
 However, all their invitations were, oral to begin with, and when I
 wrote
 to them for written invites they forwarded without essential details
 like
 registration Number.
 Again, I had to plead for registration number, which they grudgingly
 provided.
 Anyway, the confusion and inco-ordination reached to such a level, that
 they first invited me and Dr. Vinod, then rescinded the latter's
 invite,
 then again reconfirmed it and now have finally withdrawn invites of us
 both resulting not only in hardship and anguish but waste of human and
 financial resources.
 The ground given for such abrupt U Turn is that we said we would be
 accompanied by escorts.
 Now, it goes without saying that a totally blind person requires an
 escort

 for effective mobility, otherwise, there is a clear risk to his/her
 life.
 besides, lack of escort surely compromises efficiency in outdoor and
 new
 surroundings to widely varying degree for the totally blind

Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 57, Issue 200

2011-09-23 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
 sighted people with you.

 Moreover, when you are ready to ask some unknown person's help in
 between, why do you  think having escort is not preferable? There is a
 limit to everything, so as your independence. Your independence should
 not put an end to your life no? Therefore as Mr. Rajesh said, it is
 better to have an escort at least in a new surroundings when you can
 afford one; Untill you have a good device which caters the need of
 sight to a large extent.

 I don't think that any senses are now able to substitute the sight
 unless you try something different like echolocation.

 I don't know the efficiency of echolocation in extremely noisy places.
 If any one is expert in echolocation, please do contact me off the
 list.

 Thanks in advance.

 On 9/23/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Yes, Mahendra,  sighted person may also err and may imperil life.
  However, there is no gainsaying the fact that data obtained from sight is
  dynamic and much more abundant than by other senses, and while moving, it
  matters a lot.
  Of course, mobility skills must be developed, I never denied it, but
 there
  are certain limits to the independent mobility of totally, and I say,
  totally blind.
  Besides, if the escort is available, and affordable, there being no
 privacy
  concerns, who would  unnecessarily like to venture unescorted and hazard
  one's life limb safety, given the fact one has filial responsibilities to
  tackle.
 
  As per social dignity, it is a matter of interpretation, and this world
  which operates at the most surfacical level, it is vain to expect that
  fumbling around will be taken as trying at one's best.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Anirban
  Mukherjee
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
 
  actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
  concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for self-reliance. but what
  i would like to draw every body's attention is that the point that Mr
  Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is absolutely
  valid. it is insulting to say the least. there should be discretion of
  making my own choices for me.
 
  On 9/22/11, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
  Dear Rajesh
 
  i only agree with your thurd point,
 
  to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility is very much
  wrong.
  sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we must take
  responsibility
  for our life, and not totaly put responsibility  on the shoulders of
  others.
 
  secondly  because of dependence on sighted, social dignity is
 compromised,
  and not because you have to fumble around, it shows you are trying your
  best.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 09:21 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
 Dear Srinivasu
 Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much problems in
 mobility as totally blind do.
 It is not impossible to manage without escort, I have done it
 myself, travelling on Nagpur Roads in student days, and even
 travelling all alone in trains in UP, bringing my elder sister who
 is herself blind with her kids from Lucknow to Nagpur, all by myself.
 My point is, without escort,
 1. The mobility is fraught with inherent risks, sometimes of life.
 2. More often than not, social dignity is compromised, as you have
 to fumble around.
 3. Your freedom, particularly in new surroundings, is greatly curtailed.
 
 As a result, one should opt for an escort, if one is able to afford,
 and escort is available, except in situations where privacy is of
 utmost importance.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:25 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
 
 Hi All,
 Honestly, I got this curiosity with recent thread raised by Rajesh.
 
 I know, there area lot of members in the group, who widely travel and I
  see
 them traveling all alone. I even see people like Jean, who never ask for
 help at the venues. I am curious how would people with total blindness
 can
 manage to be alone at conferences etc.Also, any of you come across tips
 to
 network with the people in the events.I don't consider myself to answer
  any
 of the above, although I travel a lot, but I could fairly see. So I
 don't
 think, this would be of any problem to people with low vision.
 
 Any tips would also help me to share with our students at NAB.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 -Srinivasu
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
 Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org
 Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets
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Re: [AI] Request for IGNOU M.Ed. material in accessible formats.

2011-09-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I believe it should be available on
www.egyankosh.ac.in


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Raghava
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:56 AM
To: Acc.ind ; Sayeverything
Subject: [AI] Request for IGNOU M.Ed. material in accessible formats.

Dear All,

I'm P. Raghavaiah, high school teacher.

I'm pursuing M.Ed. from BRAOU with IGNOU syllabus.
I request you kindly to share
the IGNOU M.Ed. material in word, text or audio formats.

Thanks and regards.

Mobile: 09494483039
And 09290443937
Skype: raghava.p0305


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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well said Vetri.
Walking without cane, unescorted, is surely folly.
However, using one's residual sight for mobility purposes instead of wasting it 
on reading and writing print as some folks do, is also a sound idea I have 
given to a few who have made a good use of it.
But, for totally blind, apart from white cane, can echolocation be taught and 
practiced as a supplemental mobility aid, as some folks in US claim to do?
Are they exceptions, or it can be cultivated as a technique?
Would have been interesting to grapple with all these issues practically at AI 
convention, which I would regretfully miss.

Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility assistance by 
sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting anybody.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam 
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am afraid
that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or no
vision, nothing can supstitute mobility aids like cane. If you are
looking for tips with white cane, then that's a reasonable expectation
and fokes here can provide tips to minimise the reliability on
escorts. I would also like to bring another misconception to the
forefront. Some fokes even among visually challenged consider someone
walking around without cane being smart. I can say that there's
nothing smart about it and it's actually stupid and such attitudes put
himself or herself in danger.

Vetri.

On 24/09/2011, Renuka Warriar eren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry,  in spite of all the views expressed in this thread, I could
 not find any tips to manage without escort, except using the white
 cane, and that too is not well explained.
 Renuka.


 On 9/24/11, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends,
 First of all, I respect each views, and expect the same from all.
  Somebody rightly said that this topic is more important then screen
 readers.
 What is social dignity? If I am given 2 choices of so called social
 dignity, and my independence, I would like to choose the second one.
 Though I am not good enough as far as mobility is concern  yet for me
 personal satisfaction matters most.
 Of course while you go with white can people will ask ridicules
 questions, but I think it would happened more or less if you would go
 with sighted escort. And one can reduce risk factor by developing good
 mobility.
 I have seen many visually impaired people who manage very well without
 sighted escort.
 Above all, self satisfaction is really important.
 Though it's tough to manage without escort but with confidence it is
 possible.
 I don't want to say that we should not use escort, its necessary
 sometime to have sighted person with you. But we should honestly try
 to reduce sighted assistance as much as possible.
 let me thanks rajesh sir for this topic on the list.
 Thanks...


 On 9/23/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 First of all, I'm glad to see this thread.
 I think that this matters more than all other screen readers,
 assistive devices and all such other things.

 Even I fail to comprehend how totally blind people are able to move
 on their own.
 I have always taken the help of sighted guides for moving around.
  Many people also feel that those who require sighted assistance are
 more dependent on others than those who use white canes are.

 I personally feel that it's better to take the help of a sighted guide
 instead of fumbling around just to prove that you are not dependent on
 others.
  Of course, there are people who are truly independent and do not
 require much sighted assistance, but, like I said earlier, I really
 don't know how they actually manage it.

 I feel that people, in general, have a very negative attitude towards
 those who use white canes.
 I'm not saying that they hate blind people, but there is a drastic
 change in their behavior.
 They start interfering unnecessarily in order to assist you, or they
 start asking ridiculous questions.
 All this also happens if you move around with a sighted guide, but I
 believe that it happens more if you use a white cane.
 Of course, this method also has its flaws, but what other option do we
 have?

 On 23/09/2011, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 The over emphasis placed on independent living is the result of the
 disability rights movement, in its social model version, simply
 accepting the liberal-modern notion of the individual as rational,
 free and independent.
 We need to  may be think further in lines of human interdependence
 rather than any utopian notion of independent living, its a myth, not
 only for the disabled, but also for the non-disabled.
 When faced with a disadvantageous and dangerous environment, I 

Re: [AI] request new tts's cd from professor of IITM access OCR on the web.

2011-09-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Please tell me frankly, did 2005 software accomplish anything?
Is this software worth the trouble?
I don't want to demean any efforts, just asking practical utility of TTS and 
OCR.
OCR, they say would only work by recognizing image at a time and sending the 
results online and so on.



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:52 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] request new tts's cd from professor of IITM  access OCR on 
the web.

Dear Nirmal Sir,
I didn't understand what madam is trying to convey. To my understanding,
more users we have, more bugs will be explored. So, we will pave the way for
an outstanding product in future. The only down side is that she will be the
single person to handle thousands of emails everyday, which is a genuine
problem. Last time in 2005 it was much better where they did have online
form to request the CD.
If more than this is hidden in this sentence, then please do explain me for
my own knowledge.
-Original Message-
From: Nirmal Verma
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] request new tts's cd from professor of IITM  access OCR
on the web.

Dear friends,

I see no harm in putting it online on some website but as per my
conversation professor hema felt that putting it online may bring in some
sort of changes in the quality of the product which no one of us would like
to see.  so if you want to use it just mail her for a copy. she is open to
giving it to more and more persons so that the development team have more
data on its usages which will enhance its quality.

Nirmal Verma
India Lead, Bookshare




On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:

 All: You may send an email to Prof. Hema of IITM (forgot the last name)
 for
 getting the delivery of the TTS with NVDA cd at your doorstep.
 h...@cse.iitm.ac.in
 Access the OCR services in Hindi and Punjabi on: http://www.tdil-dc.in
 As a matter of courtesy, once you get the CD, kindly upload the whole CD
 so
 we all can also check it. I will be sending a request in first week of
 October as I have to shift the flat.
 If anyone of you have to say on privacy of email address of this
 professor,
 then kindly contact Press Information Buro, Mumbai as they are the one who
 published her email ID.
 Disclaimer: This information is provided to you just for your own
 knowledge, so I undertake no responsibility either for our users, or for
 professor if she unfortunately receives an unwanted email which I am sure
 none of us would do.
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Re: [AI] powerpoint question

2011-09-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I believe it is page down and tab.
Contents are also read, or you can press f2 to read and edit them.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amrit Pal
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] powerpoint question

What's the keyboard shortcut to reach the body and the title of the slide?
And what's for content?
- Original Message -
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] powerpoint question


 No. The first slide is always labeled as title slide and it will not
 be possible to rename it. The first slide is actually intented to show
 the title of your presentation and henceforth there are only two
 fields, the title field and the sub-title field.

 Vetri.

 On 24/09/2011, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello! my question is how to rename the slide. i want to rename slide1 as
 startup, is it possible or not.

 - Original Message -
 From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] powerpoint question


 Hi,

 Each slide has a title field and a body field. In order to recognize
 slides by title, label the title field accordingly. If you mean by
 that question reorganization of your slides, then that's another
 matter and requires different step.

 Vetri.

 On 23/09/2011, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello accessindia!

 i have a power point presentation, has contained 55 sslides. they are
 arranged as slide 1, slide 2, slide 3, so on. i want to rename all the
 slides according to their content. please provide me solution, as i am
 using
 office 2003.

 thanks.

 bhawani
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Re: [AI] Rail Reservation

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
A child under five if accompanied by an adult, does not need any ticket in 
Indian railways.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saravanan
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Rail Reservation

Hello Friends,

I am Saravanan from Bangalore.
I am having a doubt regarding Railway Reservation.
1) We are having Blind concession for getting Railway tickets. Is there any
quoto available for booking reservation.
(Does we also can book railway tickets on handicapped quoto)
2) Is it possible to book tickets for our escorts under our concession 
quoto ?
3) Is it possible to tahe a child along with un on reserved compartments
with out tabing tickets ? if so, up to how much age we can
take child along with us ?

Pls. clarify my doubts

Thanks in advance
Saravanan.k
+91 9916512402



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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
 to be rude or insulting, but thought someone has to state
 it.
 best,

 On 9/26/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Forgive me if I'm being rude, but are you an English teacher?

 On 26/09/2011, Phen Varghese phenvargh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear, raj debbarman.

 When you type please check what you are typing.
 There are a lot of mistakes.
 Try to use MS word and spell check and copy it to your compose mail.

 With regards,

 Phen Varghese

 On 9/26/11, Raj Debbarma rdbbarma...@gmail.com wrote:
 i strongly belief that white cane should  use by everyone of us.
 every time its not possible  to walk with your companion. yes it is
 importent to take help of sighted esistence but it is more asential
 to cary white cane along.
 if i tell you about me; i prefer to use white cane when i walk alone
 specially in public places like railwaystation, road, govt offices
 and
 hospitals etc.
 ya, when i  go for hang out and colledge i'm  always with my friends.
 i never be alone in such places like shopping maul, movie hall,
 discos, night clubs  and restaurants etc.
 it doesn't mean that they are not ready to come  apart from these
 places. but in my personal work i prefer to do alone for my own
 setisfection.
 my family and my friends are so  caring , they never want to live me
 alone at any point of time.  sometimes i find  so much difficultys to
 convince them.

  thank you..
 regards
  raj debbarman.
 no:
 +919545810447
 email:
 rdbbarma...@gmail.com

 On 9/26/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well said Vetri.
 Walking without cane, unescorted, is surely folly.
 However, using one's residual sight for mobility purposes instead of
 wasting
 it on reading and writing print as some folks do, is also a sound
 idea
 I
 have given to a few who have made a good use of it.
 But, for totally blind, apart from white cane, can echolocation be
 taught
 and practiced as a supplemental mobility aid, as some folks in US
 claim
 to
 do?
 Are they exceptions, or it can be cultivated as a technique?
 Would have been interesting to grapple with all these issues
 practically
 at
 AI convention, which I would regretfully miss.

 Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility
 assistance
 by
 sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting
 anybody.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
 Adhimoolam
 Vetrivel Murugan
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

 But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am afraid
 that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or no
 vision, nothing can supstitute mobility aids like cane. If you are
 looking for tips with white cane, then that's a reasonable
 expectation
 and fokes here can provide tips to minimise the reliability on
 escorts. I would also like to bring another misconception to the
 forefront. Some fokes even among visually challenged consider
 someone
 walking around without cane being smart. I can say that there's
 nothing smart about it and it's actually stupid and such attitudes
 put
 himself or herself in danger.

 Vetri.

 On 24/09/2011, Renuka Warriar eren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry,  in spite of all the views expressed in this thread, I could
 not find any tips to manage without escort, except using the white
 cane, and that too is not well explained.
 Renuka.


 On 9/24/11, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends,
 First of all, I respect each views, and expect the same from all.
  Somebody rightly said that this topic is more important then
 screen
 readers.
 What is social dignity? If I am given 2 choices of so called
 social
 dignity, and my independence, I would like to choose the second
 one.
 Though I am not good enough as far as mobility is concern  yet for
 me
 personal satisfaction matters most.
 Of course while you go with white can people will ask ridicules
 questions, but I think it would happened more or less if you would
 go
 with sighted escort. And one can reduce risk factor by developing
 good
 mobility.
 I have seen many visually impaired people who manage very well
 without
 sighted escort.
 Above all, self satisfaction is really important.
 Though it's tough to manage without escort but with confidence it
 is
 possible.
 I don't want to say that we should not use escort, its necessary
 sometime to have sighted person with you. But we should honestly
 try
 to reduce sighted assistance as much as possible.
 let me thanks rajesh sir for this topic on the list.
 Thanks...


 On 9/23/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 First of all, I'm glad to see this thread.
 I think that this matters more than all other screen readers,
 assistive devices and all such other things.

 Even I fail to comprehend how totally blind people are able to
 move
 on their own

Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
 us cross
 the road to reach the station, he accompanied us all the way to the
 station.  We asked the way to the desired platform, again we had
 someone taking us right to the over bridge.  And as I said earlier, a
 total stranger helped me board the train and even gave his lower berth
 in exchange of my upper one.

 It was a real confidence booster for me.  And it was only after this
 trip that I understood independent mobility doesn't mean moving alone,
 it means moving without a fixed sighted guide from beginning to the
 end.  Now I am really motivated to use the white cane.  But I believe
 in professional training.  So, once I undergo some training in
 mobility, I will move on my own.



 On 9/26/11, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 sir,
 I hope your understanding might good as your English.
 Expressions are more important then any language.
 He properly conveyed what he wanted. Now you should tell us whats your
 problem?
 Are you writing for only sake of insulting other?



 On 9/26/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Exactly.
 English is nothing more than a medium of communication.

 On 26/09/2011, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Away from the subject, but we've discussed this before, AI is not a
 platform for teaching and learning english. The important thing is to
 be able to convey the things, not so much about grammar and spelling.
 Not all on this list can be so proficient in the english language.
 Not intented to be rude or insulting, but thought someone has to state
 it.
 best,

 On 9/26/11, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Forgive me if I'm being rude, but are you an English teacher?

 On 26/09/2011, Phen Varghese phenvargh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear, raj debbarman.

 When you type please check what you are typing.
 There are a lot of mistakes.
 Try to use MS word and spell check and copy it to your compose mail.

 With regards,

 Phen Varghese

 On 9/26/11, Raj Debbarma rdbbarma...@gmail.com wrote:
 i strongly belief that white cane should  use by everyone of us.
 every time its not possible  to walk with your companion. yes it is
 importent to take help of sighted esistence but it is more asential
 to cary white cane along.
 if i tell you about me; i prefer to use white cane when i walk alone
 specially in public places like railwaystation, road, govt offices
 and
 hospitals etc.
 ya, when i  go for hang out and colledge i'm  always with my
 friends.
 i never be alone in such places like shopping maul, movie hall,
 discos, night clubs  and restaurants etc.
 it doesn't mean that they are not ready to come  apart from these
 places. but in my personal work i prefer to do alone for my own
 setisfection.
 my family and my friends are so  caring , they never want to live me
 alone at any point of time.  sometimes i find  so much difficultys
 to
 convince them.

  thank you..
 regards
  raj debbarman.
 no:
 +919545810447
 email:
 rdbbarma...@gmail.com

 On 9/26/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well said Vetri.
 Walking without cane, unescorted, is surely folly.
 However, using one's residual sight for mobility purposes instead
 of
 wasting
 it on reading and writing print as some folks do, is also a sound
 idea
 I
 have given to a few who have made a good use of it.
 But, for totally blind, apart from white cane, can echolocation be
 taught
 and practiced as a supplemental mobility aid, as some folks in US
 claim
 to
 do?
 Are they exceptions, or it can be cultivated as a technique?
 Would have been interesting to grapple with all these issues
 practically
 at
 AI convention, which I would regretfully miss.

 Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility
 assistance
 by
 sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting
 anybody.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
 Adhimoolam
 Vetrivel Murugan
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

 But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am
 afraid
 that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or no
 vision, nothing can supstitute mobility aids like cane. If you are
 looking for tips with white cane, then that's a reasonable
 expectation
 and fokes here can provide tips to minimise the reliability on
 escorts. I would also like to bring another misconception to the
 forefront. Some fokes even among visually challenged consider
 someone
 walking around without cane being smart. I can say that there's
 nothing smart about it and it's actually stupid and such attitudes
 put
 himself or herself in danger.

 Vetri.

 On 24/09/2011, Renuka Warriar eren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry,  in spite of all the views expressed in this thread, I
 could
 not find any tips to manage without escort, except using the white
 cane, and that too

Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, Jean, please.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Balaram
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Jean Parker; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane

Dear Jean,
please please come up with a word document so all of the white cane
users as well as the one who wish to use it can be benefited.
I don't think, attachment is permitted in this list and if so, please
provide  a link or post it to those who needs it in their Personal Email
IDS.

You can write to me if you please in my personal ID that is,
chess.bala...@gmail.com

Regards,

P. Balaraman.






On 9/27/2011 9:59 AM, Jean Parker wrote:
 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is 
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in 
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have 
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is 
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web site 
 called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable 
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of documents 
 by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.  However, 
 if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it together in 
 word and make it available as a printable document.  I could also make 
 notations about variations in described techniques that would apply to our 
 conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for people 
 who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps it would 
 be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years I always 
 get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed document it would 
 also be available to reluctant family members and friends who really don't 
 know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] request for railway time table

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
www.indianrail.gov.in
is largely accessible.
One can go to train schedule and key in the train Number, or can go to train 
between stations and find required trains.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] request for railway time table


Hello
Copying below a posting which failed to make to the list.
Harish Kotian


Quoting:


- Original Message -
From: m.chandrashekar
To: mahesh
Cc: sayeverything group
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:57 PM
Subject: request for railway time table

hello friends, i am looking for railway time table book, containing all india 
train numbers and details. it is not possible from the railway websight 
because, our screan reader may not support there. anybody scanned that printed 
book? or can i get from any library? please guide me in this regard.
with best regards
m.chandru


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Re: [AI] mobility tips

2011-09-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
So, does it mean we should equate blindness with other factors operating in 
general impacting on our safety while moving around like statistical 
probability of accident due to negligence of fellows and so on, and all other 
factors bearing on the mortality?
blindness per se has no major impact on our safety?
If it is so, I beg to differ.
It may be a great and comforting delusion at best.
Perhaps necessary also for living with blindness.
But, for mobility at least, a judicious combination of escort, fixed and 
temporary, voluntary and hired, and independent moving with white cane, 
navigational devices and other techniques is required.


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam 
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:06 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] mobility tips

Whether you are sighted or blind, the moment you step out of the
comfort zone of your home, you increase the chance of facing accidents
and it certainly does not stop people from moving around. It goes for
everything like, no plane travel without the risk of accidents etc.
Henceforth it shouldn't be used as a reason to restrict someone's
mobility. We happily go to bed and who knows whether we'll wake-up
tomorrow or not and it doesn't or shouldn't stop us from sleeping.

Vetri.

On 28/09/2011, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi prateek sir
 very well said
 I am also having same situation like you
 since I am the only son of the family
 they care for me a lot even when there was a time to choose college
 then my dad and other friends said that I should study through
 distence education
 or if I want to go to college then my dad will arange a private transport
 for me
 but some how I was able to convince them and started going college
 through a rikshaw
 it also had it's own disadvantages
 in rainy season rikshaw pullers don't wanted to go to my college
 then I planned to go with auto or bus
 it became so difficult for me to convince my dad about that
 but some how I did that
 now I can say that I can go any where at least in my hole faridabad
 soon I will be introdusing a cane to my self
 I have not talked about it to my family but I am sure that I will also do
 that
 thanks for such inspiring article
 regards

 On 9/28/11, Rishi Kewalramani rishi.kewalram...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well articulated Prateek!
 Thanks and Regards.
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 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:54 PM
 Subject: [AI] mobility tips


 well, I've been reading the emails discussing about mobility tips for
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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-09-30 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
That's it.
I suspect many of those who vote against any fixed escort despite 
availability/affordability/no privacy concerns, are partially blind, meaning 
that they are able to do some vital things visually.


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of YADAV, D. N
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:47 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your cane/no cane is like 
moving in a familiar world of your own  another unfamiliar to you.  White cane 
can only be a safety tool to prevent your near fall but not a guide as u have 
to ask directions from others despite your cane.

Recently I had been to a training programme from my office in different 
location.  There everybody (as is vogue today) held his plate in one hand, put 
things of 5-6 types by his other  then took to eating on standing tables 
during lunch.  I had to fumble my way to the queue starting with the plate 
point, often getting somebody to fill up with edibles  helping me to the 
standing table.  Where I could answer  raise questions with confidence during 
our faculty lectures, I felt my confidence was badly shaken in lunch place only 
depending on others to feed me with their help.  Even the lunch place was 
hundreds of metres away from training ground where reaching could be more than 
mere fumbling for the place.  In such scenario, as often it is with a blind 
person alone, I always think a fixed escort if you could have it, would be the 
best option.  Your confidence level is very high, you feel at par with your 
colleagues  have your own world to enjoy without any dependence on new persons 
for your pleasure of choice.  It could be really very harassing asking for help 
everyone for your needs  feeling bad when society fails to help you in time.

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Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

2011-10-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
.
Carrying educational/entertaining stuff in mobile phones, ipods etc
for such times can be  a wise solution.


10. every moment is a learning experience. The more such events you
will attend, the more comfortable you'll  get with them. What's
required is to believe in yourself, accept your limitations, and don't
get frustrated in times when you feel like helpless.
The roam was not built in a day, and your skills won't get either.
Keep learning, and you'll eventually be enjoying the conferences,
seminars etc.


Needless mentioning, the tips above are those which I  could suggest
after my personal experiences. Like I've been keep saying, each one of
us has got a different set of challenges, and different set of skills
and ideas to deal with them.  What works best for you might not work
for others, and vice versa.

My purpose of sharing these tips is not to advice, but to set a
platform where others can give  their tips, solutions, and ideas for
the general problems being faced by we people of blind community.

I'm sure that your expert  suggestions/advices will come useful to
many, including me.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director,
Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com


website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
|
www.prateekagarwal.tk

-- Original message --
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:53:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
That is an interesting analogy!
- Original Message -
From: anil joshi 
artprat...@gmail.com
To: 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

grate sir !
I salute you.

On 9/30/11, Amit Bhatt 
misterbh...@gmail.com
wrote:
 IN my final statement and opinion, The Juices and fruits are vital for
 human
 body to get nutrition's and vitamins but nothing can beet the importance
 of
 plane water.
 In the above example, juices and fruits are escort and water is our
 independent mobility.
 I hope the meaning of above lines should be understood by all without
 being
 baffled for that matter.
 The necessity of an escort is occasional and temporary but the necessity
 and
 importance of our own independent mobility is permanent.
 that's it.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhat
 - Original Message -
 From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?


 what to do, if escort is not available? is their any solution? or one has
 to move alone. please come with the solution, i think that the theme has
 gone from its subject.

 - Original Message -
 From: Ajay Minocha 
ajayminoc...@gmail.com
 To: 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 6:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?


I totally agree with cheten sir
 in small cities it is quite difficult for visually impaired to walk
 independently
 not just because of stray animals but because of poor conditions of
 roads

 also
 additionally in rainy season the conditions become worse
 you have a large amount of people laughing at you or gaising you with
 misterious faces
 I know it dos'nt metter for us but they do that with every blind person
 even if you go to sombodies house who lives in a village or small town
 they will not even let you go outside the home alone
 despite of knowing that you have a very good mobility
 regards

 On 9/30/11, Pankaj Kwatra 
pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in
wrote:
 Hello All,

 Prefer escort or assistance for outdoor and love to be independent
 while
 moving indoor. External environment poses risk and condition of cities
 is known to all and would reiterate mobility can be different for low
 vision as compared to a completely blind person.

 Cheers,

 Pankaj


 -Original Message-
 From:
accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:
accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Asudani,
 Rajesh
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:54 AM
 To:
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

 That's it.
 I suspect many of those who vote against any fixed escort despite
 availability/affordability/no privacy concerns, are partially blind,
 meaning that they are able to do some vital things visually.


 -Original Message-
 From:
accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:
accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of YADAV, D.
 N
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:47 AM
 To:
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?

 Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your cane/no cane is
 like moving in a familiar world of your own  another unfamiliar to
 you.
 White cane can only be a safety tool to prevent your near fall but not
 a
 guide as u have to ask directions from others despite your cane.

 Recently I had been to a training programme

Re: [AI] The Eyes Have It

2011-10-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, to be very frank, it is a foolish story by a very famous author.
The crux of the story is in a line:

Once again, I had a game to play and another fellow traveler..

It is just this game of deception which many disabled seem to play all their 
life.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Naresh Kumar
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:26 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] The Eyes Have It

Hi, It reminds me an urdu couplet by Dr. Bashir Badr:
Tere haath se mere honth tak
vahi intzaar ki pyaas hai;
mere naam ki jo sharab thi
kahin raaste me chhalak gayi.
My reading of the story is that: as disabled, we are taught to be hesitant.
At the same time, many of us pretend to be 'normal' which we use as an
ego satisfying mechanism. if i were asked to give a hindi title to
this story, I would have entitled it apne-apne andhere'. I didn't
find anything like masterpiece in this story rather the author has
tried to present both characters irrational whereas I strongly believe
that a blind cannot afford to be irrational. Moreover, generally
visually challenged people have a very strong perception. however,
it's an interesting story
Best

On 9/30/11, Devdas Nayak dena1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 This story kept me absorbed till almost end..but when I read last
 stanzaliterally I felt like as my heart skipped a beat.

 Indeed a master piece by Ruskin Bond.

 - Original Message -
 From: Anjina Bhat anjina1...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 5:56 PM
 Subject: [AI] The Eyes Have It


 Dear folks
 A touchy story just read this : Heart stealing story by Ruskin Bond




 The Eyes Have It
 ---

 I HAD THE TRAIN compartment to myself up to Rohana, then a girl got
 in. The couple who saw her off were probably her parents. They seemed
 very anxious about her comfort and the woman gave the girl detailed
 instructions as to where to keep her things, when not to lean out of
 windows, and how to avoid speaking to strangers.
 They called their goodbyes and the train pulled out of the station. As
 I was totally blind at the time, my eyes sensitive only to light and
 darkness, I was unable to tell what the girl looked like. But I knew
 she wore slippers from the way they slapped against her heels.
 It would take me some time to discover something about her looks and
 perhaps I never would. But I liked the sound of her voice and even the
 sound of her slippers.
 'Are you going all the way to Dehra? I asked.
 I must have been sitting in a dark corner because my voice startled
 her. She gave a little exclamation and said, I didn't know anyone else
 was here.'
 Well, it often happens that people with good eyesight fail to see what
 is right in front of them. They have too much to take in, I suppose.
 Whereas people who cannot see (or see very little) have to take in
 only the essentials, whatever registers tellingly on their remaining
 senses.
 I didn't see you either,' I said. 'But I heard you come in.'
 I wondered if I would be able to prevent her from discovering that I
 was blind. Provided I keep to my seat, I thought, it shouldn't be too
 difficult. The girl said, I am getting off at Saharanpur. My aunt is
 meeting me there.'
 Then I had better not get too familiar/ I replied. 'Aunts are usually
 formidable creatures.'
 'Where are you going?' she asked. 'To Dehra and then to Mussoorie.'
 'Oh, how lucky you are. I wish I were going to Mussoorie. I love the
 hills. Especially in October.'
 'Yes, this is the best time,' I said, calling on my memories. The
 hills are covered with wild dahlias, the sun is delicious, and at
 night you can sit in front of a log fire and drink a little brandy.
 Most of the tourists have gone and the roads are quiet and almost
 deserted. Yes, October is the best time.'
 She was silent. I wondered if my words had touched her or whether she
 thought me a romantic fool. Then I made a mistake.
 'What is it like outside?' I asked.
 She seemed to find nothing strange in the question. Had she noticed
 already that I could not see? But her next question removed my doubts.
 'Why don't you look out of the window?' she asked.
 I moved easily along the berth and felt for the window ledge. The
 window was open and I faced it, making a pretence of studying the
 landscape. I heard the panting of the engine, the rumble of the
 wheels, and, in my mind's eye I could see telegraph posts flashing by.
 'Have you noticed,' I ventured, 'that the trees seem to be moving
 while we seem to be standing still?'
 That always happens,' she said. 'Do you see any animals?'
 'No,' I answered quite confidently. I knew that there were hardly any
 animals left in the forests near Dehra.
 I turned from the window and faced the girl and for a while we sat in
 silence.
 'You have an interesting face,' I remarked. I was becoming quite
 daring but 

Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for theblind.

2011-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
There are hardly any.
One at Chennai, one at Bangalore and of course, one in Gujarat which AI friends 
have said.
However, it is the need of the hour to have at least primary English school 
with high standards for blind and then integrate them in mainstream English 
medium schools.
We, at Nagpur are also trying to begin one...


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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for theblind.

Please give me the list english medium school for the blind in Gujrat. I
want to visit these school to study the syllabus, facilities, difficulties
of the blind students and staff and so on.
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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for
theblind.


I also want to start a medium english blind school. It is simple. Only
qualified staff to be appointed.

 With warm regards,
 Praful Vyas,
 Hon. Secretary,
 Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
 Amba wadi, Junagadh road,
 Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
 Mobile : +919428261878
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:30 AM
 Subject: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the
 blind.


 Dear Friends,
 I wish to collect information regarding the English Medium Schools for
 the blind. We are planning to start an English medium school for the
 blind at Nasik. Therefore, I wish to visit such kind of schools. Please
 provide me address, contact no., email id etc. to contact them directly.
 Your response and guidance is highly solicited.
 Regards.
 Balasaheb Londhe
 PGT English
 Kendriya Vidyalaya no. 1 Devlali,
 Near Devi Mandir,
 Rest Camp Road,
 Devlali Camp,
 Nasik-422401
 Maharashtra
 Mobile: 9158087690
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Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the blind.

2011-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
What about government grants, sir?
At least in Maharashtra, they don't give grants to any English medium school.
Does MSJE have any schemes for the same?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Praful Vyas
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the 
blind.

I also want to start a medium english blind school. It is simple. Only
qualified staff to be appointed.

With warm regards,
Praful Vyas,
Hon. Secretary,
Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
Amba wadi, Junagadh road,
Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
Mobile : +919428261878
- Original Message -
From: balondhe balon...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the
blind.


 Dear Friends,
 I wish to collect information regarding the English Medium Schools for the
 blind. We are planning to start an English medium school for the blind at
 Nasik. Therefore, I wish to visit such kind of schools. Please provide me
 address, contact no., email id etc. to contact them directly.
 Your response and guidance is highly solicited.
 Regards.
 Balasaheb Londhe
 PGT English
 Kendriya Vidyalaya no. 1 Devlali,
 Near Devi Mandir,
 Rest Camp Road,
 Devlali Camp,
 Nasik-422401
 Maharashtra
 Mobile: 9158087690
 Email: balon...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Reservation Quota

2011-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
It is HP quota of two berths in sleeper class...


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saravanan
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Reservation Quota

Hello Friends,

Is there any reservation qouta available for booking tickets in Trains / Busses
for VI Persons. If so, How may seats aloted for Sitting / sleeper / Other 
classes in Trains.
Is this also applicable for escorts.
And what is the procedure for availing that.


Regards
Saravanan.K
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Re: [AI] Required information about English mediumschoolfor theblind.

2011-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I wonder is there no single English medium school for the blind in Mumbai and 
Delhi/Calcutta?
I had heard Ramakrishna Mission in Bangalore is also English medium.

Some may call me reactionary, but I strongly feel English medium primary 
education for the blind in a blind school is the right way to go.

I am also dead against clubbing together disabilities and jumbling all students 
with all sorts of disabilities in a single classroom as some organizations do.
I also believe that proper integration/inclusion in the sighted school should 
be undertaken at the middle/high school level.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of balondhe
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:56 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English mediumschoolfor theblind.

Please give address, telephone no. and email for more details.
- Original Message -
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English mediumschoolfor
theblind.


 Vamshi -
 Yes, Devnar School for the Blind, Hyderabad is an English medium school.

 Best,
 -Vasu

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:31 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium schoolfor
 theblind.

 Is Devnar school for the blind at Hyderabad an English medium school?
 I know a school at Venkatagiri in Andhra Pradesh which is an English
 medium inclusive school.


 On 10/18/11, Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it is badly need to start this type of school.
 Praful Vyas.
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium schoolfor
 theblind.


 There are hardly any.
 One at Chennai, one at Bangalore and of course, one in Gujarat which AI
 friends have said.
 However, it is the need of the hour to have at least primary English
 school with high standards for blind and then integrate them in
 mainstream

 English medium schools.
 We, at Nagpur are also trying to begin one...


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of balondhe
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:40 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for
 theblind.

 Please give me the list english medium school for the blind in Gujrat. I
 want to visit these school to study the syllabus, facilities,
 difficulties
 of the blind students and staff and so on.
 - Original Message -
 From: Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for
 theblind.


I also want to start a medium english blind school. It is simple. Only
qualified staff to be appointed.

 With warm regards,
 Praful Vyas,
 Hon. Secretary,
 Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
 Amba wadi, Junagadh road,
 Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
 Mobile : +919428261878
 - Original Message -
 From: balondhe balon...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:30 AM
 Subject: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the
 blind.


 Dear Friends,
 I wish to collect information regarding the English Medium Schools for
 the blind. We are planning to start an English medium school for the
 blind at Nasik. Therefore, I wish to visit such kind of schools.
 Please
 provide me address, contact no., email id etc. to contact them
 directly.
 Your response and guidance is highly solicited.
 Regards.
 Balasaheb Londhe
 PGT English
 Kendriya Vidyalaya no. 1 Devlali,
 Near Devi Mandir,
 Rest Camp Road,
 Devlali Camp,
 Nasik-422401
 Maharashtra
 Mobile: 9158087690
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Re: [AI] Plustek Optic Book 3800- a faster and relatively cheap scanning option

2011-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Is there any automatic scanner?
I mean a scanner in which we do not need to turn the pages manually but which 
automatically takes the contents page wise, or something like that?
If so, the which is it and at what price?


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin pinto
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:34 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Plustek Optic Book 3800- a faster and relatively cheap 
scanning option

what is the price of the scanner does it work on its own softwair or
any ocr software

On 10/19/11, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Plustek scanners are avaible in India. I have got many purchased for
 institutions in Delhi.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala
 Sent: 19 October 2011 01:46
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Plustek Optic Book 3800- a faster and relatively cheap
 scanning option

 Hi
 I have recently been using Plustek's Optic Book 3800 scanner and am pretty
 happy with the results. The scanning time is around 7 seconds and in one
 minute you can have about 4 pages scanned (taking into account time to turn
 pages over and for the scanner to get ready for the next scan). Another good
 feature is the possibility of scanning books which do not open flat
 properly. As far as I know it is not available in India yet. So anyone
 interested will have to get it shipped from a distant land. The price on the
 internet is around 300 dollars.
 Moiz.

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[AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

2011-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
I know it must have been discussed here before.
But, I cannot seem to find any free download programme for Utube videos.
Please help.


With thanks and regards



(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
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Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Despite being a lawyer by training myself, I am really at a loss to comprehend 
current DND policies of government of India.
Since September 28, I have plunged into DND, now I cannot figure out what 
message to send and where despite repeated calls to DND helplines and so on


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:47 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

Hi,
I came to know that after 27th of september we will recieve no
promotional calls and sms from internet/google service, therefore I
was suggested that please send sms from your mobile with following key
words, START 6.
Friends I accordingly sent, now I am recieving sms only from google
sms channel. But I want to recieve all kind of promotional calls and
sms from all services. I called to DND helpline and they suggested me
that send message from Your mobile with these words STOP 6. Friends
I am thinking if I send this message then this google sms chennal will
be stopped. I am in deluma, what to do.
--
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 at Faculty of Law in University of Delhi

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Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
So, here itself there are two versions of syntax.
I have tried stop 0, and now will also try stop DND.
Let's hope for the best...


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

In order to deregister yourself from DND, you need to send a text to
1909 write STOP DND. this will open all kinds of promotional calls
and texts including Google SMSes.

Hope that clarifies the situation.

Thanks and regards,

Rahul

On 10/19/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Despite being a lawyer by training myself, I am really at a loss to
 comprehend current DND policies of government of India.
 Since September 28, I have plunged into DND, now I cannot figure out what
 message to send and where despite repeated calls to DND helplines and so
 on


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:47 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

 Hi,
 I came to know that after 27th of september we will recieve no
 promotional calls and sms from internet/google service, therefore I
 was suggested that please send sms from your mobile with following key
 words, START 6.
 Friends I accordingly sent, now I am recieving sms only from google
 sms channel. But I want to recieve all kind of promotional calls and
 sms from all services. I called to DND helpline and they suggested me
 that send message from Your mobile with these words STOP 6. Friends
 I am thinking if I send this message then this google sms chennal will
 be stopped. I am in deluma, what to do.
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  at Faculty of Law in University of Delhi

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Re: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Thank you Shek.
However, teh wondershare free utube downloader seems to be totally inaccessible.
Any tips?
I will try site suggested by Adina as well.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:44 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

Friends
I know it must have been discussed here before.
But, I cannot seem to find any free download programme for Utube videos.
Please help.


With thanks and regards



(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Cell: 9420397185
o: +91 712 2806846
R: 2591349

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Re: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, I have.
But, it does not even say the control labels on what the control is.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sheik mohammedali
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

have you downloaded the wondershare youtube downloader?

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Re: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, Shrikant.
But product of videosoft I installed, and it frankly asks to purchase license 
before starting to use.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UTUBE DOWNLOADER

hi sir, grab it from here.
a free YouTube downloader: open the below link and click on download now:

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-Download.htm

Internet Download Manager can also be used

to download using I.D.M open the video, use jaws cursor navigate to
download video and left click using number pad
or right click the I.D.M menu and use download flash video using I.D.M
in F.F or I.E.

YouTube to MP3:

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm

Free Video to flash for uploading on YouTube:

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-to-Flash-Converter.htm

Free YouTube up-loader:

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-Uploader.htm

even windows movie maker can upload videos to YouTube on win 7.

On 10/19/11, sunil sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:
 respected sir,
 and here is my favorite one:
 http://www.youtubetomp3.com/


 On 10/19/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Friends
 I know it must have been discussed here before.
 But, I cannot seem to find any free download programme for Utube videos.
 Please help.


 With thanks and regards



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Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

2011-10-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
BSNL has nos such dedicated number for DND.
1909 is their usual customer care that too for landlines and they ask us
 to go to 1503 which is customer care for mobiles, and there too executive only 
takes down the request without any action.

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

I am using Airtel as my service provider, and they have very nice system for
the customers on their IVR.
dialing 1909 on airtel, it connects to the DND service where we have various
choices to select as what type of SMS or promotion calls we want to receive
from the companies.
Since am not knowing what mobile connection you have been using, I can just
suggest you to try 1909 and follow the voice prompting.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message -
From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Full or parcial DND!


 Yes Tanya, you can send sms from ur mobile with these words START 6
 Rest,  friends I tried to send message with stop 0, but it says u have
 not subscribed to the service. Friends I didn't activated on my mobile
 the dnd service.

 On 10/19/11, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aulternatively, you may call on 1909 from your mobile and follow voice
 commands on the IVR.

 On 10/19/11, Tanya t_bals...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is there a way of only subscribing to the Google SMS channels?


 Cheers,

 Tanya







 On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:32 IST Rahul Kelapure wrote:

In order to deregister yourself from DND, you need to send a text to
1909 write STOP DND. this will open all kinds of promotional calls
and texts including Google SMSes.

Hope that clarifies the situation.

Thanks and regards,

Rahul

On 10/19/11, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Despite being a lawyer by training myself, I am really at a loss to
 comprehend current DND policies of government of India.
 Since September 28, I have plunged into DND, now I cannot figure out
 what
 message to send and where despite repeated calls to DND helplines and
 so
 on


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:47 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Full or parcial DND!

 Hi,
 I came to know that after 27th of september we will recieve no
 promotional calls and sms from internet/google service, therefore I
 was suggested that please send sms from your mobile with following key
 words, START 6.
 Friends I accordingly sent, now I am recieving sms only from google
 sms channel. But I want to recieve all kind of promotional calls and
 sms from all services. I called to DND helpline and they suggested me
 that send message from Your mobile with these words STOP 6. Friends
 I am thinking if I send this message then this google sms chennal will
 be stopped. I am in deluma, what to do.
 --
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  at Faculty of Law in University of Delhi

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[AI] Friends in Gujarat

2011-10-20 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends,
I would be in Adipur, Gujarat on October 22 and 23, in connection with Sahitya 
Akadmi seminar and in Ahmedabad on October 21 and 24.
Anybody wishing to contact me there may get in touch with me...


With thanks and regards



(Rajesh Asudani)
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Re: [AI] How to over come the problem when we are in a restoront.

2011-10-30 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
The crux of the matter is that if a totally blind person ventures unescorted, 
many such potentially difficult situations are bound to occur.
One may get through them by asking for human help.
It is better to have one's private escort in such situations, if one can afford 
it, it is readily available and there are no privacy concerns.
However, such private escort should not become a sine qua non for your 
essential works. But the last statement is aspirational to a large extent, and 
is also contingent on what is meant by essential.
In simple words, it is a private choice not to be frowned upon if one insists 
on a private escort.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 4:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] How to over come the problem when we are in a restoront.

Dear Friend's,

Hope that you all are fine.
You all know how to use the cane and you all know all the gadgets
which we can use.
But my question is If you are attending a Marriage party alone and the
food is served in a Buffet style then How will you serve your self?
Here there are no servers you have to go to the serving place and take it.
You have to hold the plate and the cane How will you manage?
The plate is heavy.
Please give me a proper answer.

With regards,

Phen Varghese

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Re: [AI] Facilities for Physically Challenged Passengers at Railway

2010-08-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Laughter is the best medicine, they say.


Regards

If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your
body, and yet you think that you can do anything with
that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer.

 --Lenny Bruce

(Rajesh Asudani)

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09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Gopalakrishnan
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:57 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Facilities for Physically Challenged Passengers at Railway

Facilities for Physically Challenged Passengers at Railway



Posted: 25 Aug 2010 11:34 AM PDT


Facilities for Physically Challenged Passengers at Railway Stations

There are more than 8000 railway stations on Indian Railways with approximately 
14,700 platforms. Based on the passenger earnings, these stations are 
categorized as 'A-1', 'A', 'B', 'C', 'D', 'E' and 'F' category. Facilities for 
physically handicapped passengers at stations are provided in terms of short 
term and long term facilities. Short term facilities are available at most of 
the 'A-1', 'A' and 'B' category stations which deal with approximately 75 per 
cent of passenger traffic. Items under short term facilities are as under:-

I. Provision of standard ramp with railing for barrier free entry.
II. Earmarking at least one parking lot for two vehicles used by physically 
challenged persons.
III. Provision of a non-slippery walkway from parking lot to building.
IV. Provision of signages of appropriate visibility.
V. Provision of at least one drinking water tap suitable for use by a disabled 
person.
VI. Provision of at least one toilet on the ground floor.
VII. 'May I help You' Booth.

Long Term Facilities comprise arrangements for inter platform transfer and 
engraving on edges of platform. Arrangements for inter platform transfer is 
available at most of the 'A-1', 'A' and 'B' category stations. These facilities 
are planned to be provided progressively at remaining stations after provision 
of short term facilities.

It is planned to provide 100 escalators at 50 important railway stations and 
other places of religious, historical and tourists importance.

Indian Railways are manufacturing passenger coaches with special designed 
compartment and European toilet pans adapted to the need of physically 
challenged passengers/senior citizens. Public conveniences in the form of 
toilets for physically challenged passengers/senior citizens are available at 
most of the 'A-1', 'A' and 'B' category stations.

This information was given by the Minister of State for Railways, Shri E. 
Ahamed in a written reply in Rajya Sabha today.

Source: PIB
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Re: [AI] Draft Legislation for the Disabled will be Ready by December

2010-08-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Again, I would invoke the best medicine


Regards

If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your
body, and yet you think that you can do anything with
that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer.

 --Lenny Bruce

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349




-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Gopalakrishnan
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:16 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Draft Legislation for the Disabled will be Ready by December

India News

New Delhi

Thursday, Aug 26 2010 IST

Agreeing that 2.19 crore disabled population in the country needed a better 
legal and administrative framework to ameliorate their lot, the Government 
today held out hope that a draft legislation harmonising the general principles 
of the UN body for disabilities would be in place by the end of the year. An 
experts and stakeholders group has been studying and collating 100 proposed 
amendments for drafting a holistic and forward-looking legislation to benefit 
the disabled sections of society since May this year and a comprehensive 
legislation may be in place by December, Minister for Social Justice and 
Empowerment Mukul Wasnik told the Rajya Sabha. He was making a statement on a 
Call Attention Motion on the 'discrimination faced by disabled citizens' and 
the urgent need to place an appropriate administrative and legal framework to 
address the requirements. He said as per the Census 2001, there were 2.19 crore 
persons with disabilities ranging from visual impairment, speech, loc
 omotor and mental disabilities constituting 2.13 per cent of the population.
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[AI] Jaws 11 problem

2010-08-31 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
My jaws 11 at home shuts down every time I close a webpage.
I have to reboot the system, then.

Any solutions?
Thanks


and Regards
The world is not to be narrowed till it will go into the understanding . . . 
but the understanding is to be expanded till it can take in the world.
- Francis Bacon

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I opine that:
the only bar on scribe taken by candidate should be that she/he should not be 
eligible to appear for exactly the same exam at the time she is so acting.
This condition should be sufficient to satisfy the paranoids who devise ever 
new criteria for scribe eligibility.
Besides, Imposition  of scribe should be guarded against, at the same time 
leaving scope open for candidate to request a competent scribe in advance, if 
candidate so wishes.
scope should also be left for eleventh hour changes, provided they satisfy the 
prescribed eligibility mentioned above.
Use of technology be facilitated, in conjunction with human aid, and not 
necessarily as the sole mode for taking the exam.




-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Most of you know that I have been working on the guidelines for examinations 
especially the issue of scribes for some time.
All of us have realised the need for standard guidelines in the country. After 
the maharashtra guidelines were issued many of you approached me and have been 
approaching me regularly for All India guidelines.  Therefore it is time to act.

I have based my work on the:
1. Guidelines in Maharashtra
2. Minutes of meeting held in2008
3. Judgement in Asif's case
4. University of Bombay's circular on psychology

 I need to know from each of you as to what you want in the new Rules. What you 
want to safe guard against,What you want the Examination authority to take care 
of and what will be the visually challenged's responsibility. Anything that I 
should take into account especially for any particular exam. Please ask for the 
moon we just might get it of course be practical. Think of all the variations 
and combinations and complications that someone somewhere may face.  Thats why 
I am still on this group.

I cannot take care of the idiot who denies the rules but I can ensure good 
rules on paper at least. So lets go for it. Please dont send me a list of  what 
happened in the past I cant rectify it but I can see that it does not happen 
again. So requesting for some input.
The new rules will apply to :
1. All recruiting exams
2. All college and school exams
3. All entrance exams
4. any other exam that I have forgotten

Looking forward to your inputs
Thanks
Kanchan

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.


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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
May I add a proviso to the eligibility condition mentioned in my earlier mail 
to the effect that  the scribe  should not have appeared  in the same exam at 
any past time, or could have appeared but for upper age limit.

Simplified, the eligibility condition for the scribe should be:
Anybody who has not appeared for and is not eligible to appear for exactly the 
same exam as she is acting as scribe at the time,, and such ineligibility 
should not be merely due to upper age limit for the exam.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Most of you know that I have been working on the guidelines for examinations 
especially the issue of scribes for some time.
All of us have realised the need for standard guidelines in the country. After 
the maharashtra guidelines were issued many of you approached me and have been 
approaching me regularly for All India guidelines.  Therefore it is time to act.

I have based my work on the:
1. Guidelines in Maharashtra
2. Minutes of meeting held in2008
3. Judgement in Asif's case
4. University of Bombay's circular on psychology

 I need to know from each of you as to what you want in the new Rules. What you 
want to safe guard against,What you want the Examination authority to take care 
of and what will be the visually challenged's responsibility. Anything that I 
should take into account especially for any particular exam. Please ask for the 
moon we just might get it of course be practical. Think of all the variations 
and combinations and complications that someone somewhere may face.  Thats why 
I am still on this group.

I cannot take care of the idiot who denies the rules but I can ensure good 
rules on paper at least. So lets go for it. Please dont send me a list of  what 
happened in the past I cant rectify it but I can see that it does not happen 
again. So requesting for some input.
The new rules will apply to :
1. All recruiting exams
2. All college and school exams
3. All entrance exams
4. any other exam that I have forgotten

Looking forward to your inputs
Thanks
Kanchan

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.


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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
1. I said should  not have appeared in the past, primarily to satisfy paranoids.
However, it is better dropped.
Or at least, a reasonable time limit, say past three years, may be prescribed.
However, it also will lay the onus of proving the non-appearance on the 
candidate or scribe which is difficult.
2. Upper age limit I mentioned to mean that scribe should not be ineligible 
merely due to upper age limit for taking the exam.
So, this condition does not apply to exams where there is no age limit. Hence, 
anybody, say who cannot appear for M.A. part 2 in English,  because she does 
not have M.A. part 1 pass certificate in English,  will be able to be a scribe. 
So will be anybody who has done PG in say, physics, or PH.D. in anything but 
English, for that matter.
Upper age limit will come into play when, say, I take a scribe for SBI exam 
where upper age limit is 28 years, and minimum qualification for applying is 
graduation.  So, a person who is 35, but who is a graduate cannot be a scribe, 
for she could herself have taken   the exam, but for her being overage. Here, 
anybody who does not have a graduation degree will be a scribe

I know this condition will deviate a little from strictly having one year 
junior scribe, but I propose it to be a short eligibility criteria for all 
exams.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:13 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

1. How is it possible to prove that someone did not give the exam in the
past? If the writer is younger than the candidate it may be possible but if
my mom wrote an exam eg. a exam for recruiting to SBI for you then how will
you prove that she didnt sit for the same exam 30 years ago?

2
.
 Also there are many exams like M. A.  which does not have an upper age
limit for the candidate so any person who is about 22 years or more even 100
will be eligible to give the exam. Can such a person be a writer?

I dont know lets analyse these situations more in depth. I had started
drafting but I put it aside because I knew there were many complications. I
have read Apoorva, Kartik,Rakesh and Vasu's views. Waiting for others. This
affects each of us and at various times in our lives.

I also understand that there is a feeling that there should be tactile
questions and that all visual questions should have alternatives. This is a
great leap forward. However the young visually challenged have to be taught
this from school. Are our organisations either special schools or
supplementary facilities ready for this? I can tell you that one of the
turning points in the latest physiotherapy case was when I handed over
tactile diagrams of the foot to the judges. how many organisations have
these machines, how many will do it on time, how many readily teach their
kids to read and understand these?Sorry for going off on a tangent. Lets get
back to the real issue of the examinations.
Kanchan
- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 May I add a proviso to the eligibility condition mentioned in my earlier
 mail to the effect that  the scribe  should not have appeared  in the same
 exam at any past time, or could have appeared but for upper age limit.

 Simplified, the eligibility condition for the scribe should be:
 Anybody who has not appeared for and is not eligible to appear for exactly
 the same exam as she is acting as scribe at the time,, and such
 ineligibility should not be merely due to upper age limit for the exam.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
 Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:29 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Examinations

 Most of you know that I have been working on the guidelines for
 examinations especially the issue of scribes for some time.
 All of us have realised the need for standard guidelines in the country.
 After the maharashtra guidelines were issued many of you approached me and
 have been approaching me regularly for All India guidelines.  Therefore it
 is time to act.

 I have based my work on the:
 1. Guidelines in Maharashtra
 2. Minutes of meeting held in2008
 3. Judgement in Asif's case
 4. University of Bombay's circular on psychology

 I need to know from each of you as to what you want in the new Rules. What
 you want to safe guard against,What you want the Examination authority to
 take care of and what will be the visually challenged's responsibility.
 Anything that I should take into account especially for any particular
 exam. Please ask for the moon we just might get it of course be practical.
 Think of all the variations and combinations and complications

Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I had proposed it as one quick eligibility condition for all exams.
Surprisingly enough,  if it appears complicated and plagued with so many 
variables.
I cannot help it.
Perhaps, it is my fault that I am impractical and incomprehensible to most.

I only mean to say:
Scribe should not be eligible to take the same exam  at the time she is acting 
as scribe, such ineligibility not caused by her being overage for the exam.

Now, if it  is complicated, and various conditions being imposed now, are 
simple enough, and something can be thought of to prevent undue harassment of 
blind folk without  sacrificing competence of the scribes and palatable to 
paranoids, I have nothing to say.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:24 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Rajesh, very complicated and too much emphasis on the candidate being able
to prove and too many variables. anyway lets look at it in more details. The
more complicated we make it the tougher it will be to live with later.
Getting it passed is not the problem. Need to be practical. Kanchan
- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 1. I said should  not have appeared in the past, primarily to satisfy
 paranoids.
 However, it is better dropped.
 Or at least, a reasonable time limit, say past three years, may be
 prescribed.
 However, it also will lay the onus of proving the non-appearance on the
 candidate or scribe which is difficult.
 2. Upper age limit I mentioned to mean that scribe should not be
 ineligible merely due to upper age limit for taking the exam.
 So, this condition does not apply to exams where there is no age limit.
 Hence, anybody, say who cannot appear for M.A. part 2 in English,  because
 she does not have M.A. part 1 pass certificate in English,  will be able
 to be a scribe. So will be anybody who has done PG in say, physics, or
 PH.D. in anything but English, for that matter.
 Upper age limit will come into play when, say, I take a scribe for SBI
 exam where upper age limit is 28 years, and minimum qualification for
 applying is graduation.  So, a person who is 35, but who is a graduate
 cannot be a scribe, for she could herself have taken   the exam, but for
 her being overage. Here, anybody who does not have a graduation degree
 will be a scribe

 I know this condition will deviate a little from strictly having one year
 junior scribe, but I propose it to be a short eligibility criteria for all
 exams.

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
 Pamnani
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:13 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 1. How is it possible to prove that someone did not give the exam in the
 past? If the writer is younger than the candidate it may be possible but
 if
 my mom wrote an exam eg. a exam for recruiting to SBI for you then how
 will
 you prove that she didnt sit for the same exam 30 years ago?

 2
 .
 Also there are many exams like M. A.  which does not have an upper age
 limit for the candidate so any person who is about 22 years or more even
 100
 will be eligible to give the exam. Can such a person be a writer?

 I dont know lets analyse these situations more in depth. I had started
 drafting but I put it aside because I knew there were many complications.
 I
 have read Apoorva, Kartik,Rakesh and Vasu's views. Waiting for others.
 This
 affects each of us and at various times in our lives.

 I also understand that there is a feeling that there should be tactile
 questions and that all visual questions should have alternatives. This is
 a
 great leap forward. However the young visually challenged have to be
 taught
 this from school. Are our organisations either special schools or
 supplementary facilities ready for this? I can tell you that one of the
 turning points in the latest physiotherapy case was when I handed over
 tactile diagrams of the foot to the judges. how many organisations have
 these machines, how many will do it on time, how many readily teach their
 kids to read and understand these?Sorry for going off on a tangent. Lets
 get
 back to the real issue of the examinations.
 Kanchan
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 May I add a proviso to the eligibility condition mentioned in my earlier
 mail to the effect that  the scribe  should not have appeared  in the
 same
 exam at any past time, or could have appeared but for upper age limit.

 Simplified, the eligibility condition

Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Making available diagrams which are in the question paper in tactile format to 
examinee, is farfetched, at least now.
Alternative questions are best strategy, me thinks.
Further, We would do well to guard against imposition of scribes, which I think 
we are not doing.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Dear Mam,
UGC net paper has also be included in the list, and it needs  the
special and seprat attention.
more I'll write later.


On 9/2/10, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 We are discussing about tactile formats. But, my question is: there
 are certain figures involving very complecated stuff. And, one
 shouldn't forget 3D diagrams. How can we attempt such questions or
 represent them using tactile diagrams? I'll share my experiences in
 the NTSE here. In the theory test, there were questions on non-verbal
 reasoning as in count the No. of squares, complete the pattern, folded
 paper and what not. Even if we understand the picture, it will be
 difficult for a person who's never seen anything to visualise and
 comprehend the figure properly. Writer's assistance will still be
 required. Eventually, this is not the true ability and intellect of
 the candidate which is being tested. The concept of tactile diagrams
 work well only where the figures are easy to interpret. But, one
 cannot be sure of the complexity in figures. So, according to me, the
 best bet will be alternate theoretical questions, testing the same
 concept in a different way.

 -Kartik

 On 9/3/10, Kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rajesh, very complicated and too much emphasis on the candidate being able
 to prove and too many variables. anyway lets look at it in more details.
 The
 more complicated we make it the tougher it will be to live with later.
 Getting it passed is not the problem. Need to be practical. Kanchan
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 1. I said should  not have appeared in the past, primarily to satisfy
 paranoids.
 However, it is better dropped.
 Or at least, a reasonable time limit, say past three years, may be
 prescribed.
 However, it also will lay the onus of proving the non-appearance on the
 candidate or scribe which is difficult.
 2. Upper age limit I mentioned to mean that scribe should not be
 ineligible merely due to upper age limit for taking the exam.
 So, this condition does not apply to exams where there is no age limit.
 Hence, anybody, say who cannot appear for M.A. part 2 in English,
 because

 she does not have M.A. part 1 pass certificate in English,  will be able
 to be a scribe. So will be anybody who has done PG in say, physics, or
 PH.D. in anything but English, for that matter.
 Upper age limit will come into play when, say, I take a scribe for SBI
 exam where upper age limit is 28 years, and minimum qualification for
 applying is graduation.  So, a person who is 35, but who is a graduate
 cannot be a scribe, for she could herself have taken   the exam, but for
 her being overage. Here, anybody who does not have a graduation degree
 will be a scribe

 I know this condition will deviate a little from strictly having one year
 junior scribe, but I propose it to be a short eligibility criteria for
 all

 exams.

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
 Pamnani
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:13 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 1. How is it possible to prove that someone did not give the exam in the
 past? If the writer is younger than the candidate it may be possible but
 if
 my mom wrote an exam eg. a exam for recruiting to SBI for you then how
 will
 you prove that she didnt sit for the same exam 30 years ago?

 2
 .
 Also there are many exams like M. A.  which does not have an upper age
 limit for the candidate so any person who is about 22 years or more even
 100
 will be eligible to give the exam. Can such a person be a writer?

 I dont know lets analyse these situations more in depth. I had started
 drafting but I put it aside because I knew there were many complications.
 I
 have read Apoorva, Kartik,Rakesh and Vasu's views. Waiting for others.
 This
 affects each of us and at various times in our lives.

 I also understand that there is a feeling that there should be tactile
 questions and that all visual questions should have alternatives. This is
 a
 great leap forward. However the young visually challenged have to be
 taught
 this from school. Are our organisations either special schools or
 supplementary facilities ready for this? I can

Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Dear Amit
Nobody, to my knowledge, has tried to include age limit or so for scribes in 
suggestions given here.
I am afraid if my statement about scribe eligibility cannot be properly 
interpreted, I would shut up and let others draft guidelines wisely, hoping to 
benefit from them.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:03 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

In my opinion, when the necessary credentials and Certificates of Scribe are
shown to the examination authority, there is no point of even thinking of
age limit unnecessary. We all know age is now no more barrier in our
education. finding a writer is always not that easy and, we are trying to
make this task more tough by framing out the norm like age limit and so on.
Suppose I am a scribe, my age is 35 but I am currently studding in 12th
standard and writing an exam for a candidate who is doing graduation, so
what goes wrong here.
Let us try to create the easiness and good norms for examinations.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message -
From: Pamnani kanchanpamn...@hotmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: [AI] Examinations


 Most of you know that I have been working on the guidelines for
 examinations especially the issue of scribes for some time.
 All of us have realised the need for standard guidelines in the country.
 After the maharashtra guidelines were issued many of you approached me and
 have been approaching me regularly for All India guidelines.  Therefore it
 is time to act.

 I have based my work on the:
 1. Guidelines in Maharashtra
 2. Minutes of meeting held in2008
 3. Judgement in Asif's case
 4. University of Bombay's circular on psychology

 I need to know from each of you as to what you want in the new Rules. What
 you want to safe guard against,What you want the Examination authority to
 take care of and what will be the visually challenged's responsibility.
 Anything that I should take into account especially for any particular
 exam. Please ask for the moon we just might get it of course be practical.
 Think of all the variations and combinations and complications that
 someone somewhere may face.  Thats why I am still on this group.

 I cannot take care of the idiot who denies the rules but I can ensure good
 rules on paper at least. So lets go for it. Please dont send me a list of
 what happened in the past I cant rectify it but I can see that it does not
 happen again. So requesting for some input.
 The new rules will apply to :
 1. All recruiting exams
 2. All college and school exams
 3. All entrance exams
 4. any other exam that I have forgotten

 Looking forward to your inputs
 Thanks
 Kanchan

 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.


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Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Same problem here with some of my friends, who use jaws 11 with windows 7 in 64 
bit PC.
Jaws does not keep pace with key commands and reads the full message or line 
before responding to another command given while first is in progress. This 
causes much needless inconvenience.
Any suggestions?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of raghuraman 
kalyanaraman
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:42 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
and only then it goes to the next line.
it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
key functions whenever we press
hope i am clear
please give me a solution to this
cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Best way is to vehemently resist imposition of scribes and find and take one's 
own scribes.
NGOs may pitch in if aspirants are not able to find on their own
But, authorities imposing  scribes in the name of helping the blind is not 
acceptable to me.
Love marriage is always better than arranged, even if it fails, merely because 
choice was my own, and spouse was not thrust upon by somebody



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:35 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Dear Rajesh bhai, Kanchan and others,

I haven't tried to put my point across on Age limitation of Scribe against
any suggestion or thought but I wanted to raise my own suggestion pertaining
to eligibility criteria of Scribe. Following are some more points to be
suggested from my end.

1. If the Visually Impaired candidate appearing in the exam like Music, the
Writer should be from same stream.
In Jan 2010, one of my friends in Delhi appeared in the  exam conducted by
Kendriya Vidyalay Sangathan for the post of Music teacher for Primary level.
he was provided with the Writer who was studding in 9th standard and having
no knowledge of Music. As a result, the child was not able to understand
what the candidate is dictating him. It has happened since writing of Music
has some special symbols, notations and so on. Secondly, the Candidate had
to taken two exam in the same day and the Scribe was much tired seating and
writing two exams one by another.
By sharing this incidence, I just want to convey that such problems will
always arrive if a Child of 9th Class writes an exam of higher level for the
longer hours. The exam was indeed for the primary level teacher but we all
know that the syllabus of such kind of examinations will not be as simple or
easy as class 5th examination. hence, the Scribe should be only one standard
junior to the standard of the Examinee. No matters whether Exam is being
conducted for the primary, TGT, PGT or UGC level. According to me, my friend
would have got the Scribe of Graduation level since he was already Post
Graduate.
2. Some time the Examination Centre provide us the Writer whose writing
skills are not that good. this is also not acceptable to me. If I am seating
for the exam, I am not suppose to tell him the spelling of each word, or
symbols and other writing manners in the exam. In this way, my entire time
will waste in dictating him the spelling and all. At least the Scribe should
have the genuine knowledge and idea to write an exam. Someone very rightly
said that if the Centre is ready to provide us the Scribe, the Candidate
should be allowed to meet his or her Scribe at least 24 ours before the exam
taking  place. I would say it even before 48 hours. so if the Candidate is
not satisfied at the comfort level with his Scribe, he can request the
Authority to change the Scribe.
I know another lady who was appearing in the NET Exam. The Scribe was
arranged by UGC only and again he was not found up to the mark. The Scribe
had no idea about how to write that paper and his entire concentration was
in talking about Scribe Fee to be given by UGC. he again and again used to
complain about the lesser amount to be given from the Centre. The Examinee
tried to make her Scribe understand to just to focus on writing the Exam but
the Scribe was constantly trying to show his strain and tiredness saying
that the Money is given to me is not sufficient. at the end of the Exam,
when the Candidate asked the Scribe whether any Question is left, he said:
No madam, nothing is left. You do not be worried. But after the Exam, the
Candidate was shocked to know that her Scribe has left a Question of 40
Marks on Sociology!
What I mean to say that we are talking about the qualification of Scribe, I
am unhappy to observe this pathetic condition of Scribes writing the exams
for the VI people. I am sorry to say but a Visually Impaired Candidate
cannot afford to lose anything just because of silliness of his Scribe. if
this is the case, you never know if I am telling my Writer to Write Delhi,
and he writes Mumbai instead. so, above example also compel us to have
doubts on the loyalty and honesty of the Scribe. I therefore, request you
all to think about all these aspects while drafting the norms.

regards,

Amit Bhatt


- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 Dear Amit
 Nobody, to my knowledge, has tried to include age limit or so for scribes
 in suggestions given here.
 I am afraid if my statement about scribe eligibility cannot be properly
 interpreted, I would shut up and let others draft guidelines wisely,
 hoping to benefit from them.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Thank you srikant
Will ask them to try the suggestions and revert.
Meanwhile, with me, in jaws 11 with 32 bit win XP,  it does not read word 
documents what to do?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

nothing for me here working perfectly fine:

how much of R.A.M they are using?


as per my knowledge 2 G.B is required to run the O.S so a RAM of above
3 or 4 G.B is recommended. usually this problem occurs when memory
that can be utilized is less.

using on the dell note book win 7 64 bit O.S studio with Core i 3
processor and 4 G.B of RAM DDR2 without any problem.

further solutions could be disable arrow feature which kills lot of
resources it is simple and easy. set a classic theme of windows.

try disabling gazettes that are running unnecessarily.

disable unwanted processes from MSCONFIG.

reduce the programs running in start up.

disable your anti virus firewall to know whether it is blocking
JFW.exe files if so set a ruling in your firewall to unblock it note:
for unblocking a program refer to your anti virus manual.

defrag your hard drive to improve system performance and jaws support.

Disable unsupported programs and themes by jaws.

clear Temp and log files and repair your registry using a free program
C cleaner.

hope it might help.

Srikanth

On 9/6/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Same problem here with some of my friends, who use jaws 11 with windows 7 in
 64 bit PC.
 Jaws does not keep pace with key commands and reads the full message or line
 before responding to another command given while first is in progress. This
 causes much needless inconvenience.
 Any suggestions?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of raghuraman
 kalyanaraman
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:42 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

 friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
 but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
 now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
 and only then it goes to the next line.
 it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
 in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
 key functions whenever we press
 hope i am clear
 please give me a solution to this
 cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-07 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
office 7, srikant.
it is reading in none of the modes.
how to disable assistant in office 2007?
Thanks


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

which version of office sir?

please check whether office assistant is on? if so disable it.

please let us know where it is not reading when typing or in say all
mode. also let us know whether it is reading by arrows or not.

please see that whether view menu layout is in either print or normal.



On 9/7/10, B. P. Mohith ckm.moh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please check
 whether typing interrupt check box is checked or not under user
 options which is located in Configuration manager set options menue.
 Hope this may help.


 On 9/3/10, raghuraman kalyanaraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
 but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
 now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
 and only then it goes to the next line.
 it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
 in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
 key functions whenever we press
 hope i am clear
 please give me a solution to this
 cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-08 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to learn 
Braille.
Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons, which is 
not fair.
Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue restrictions is 
fair enough.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start compiling 
them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss them immediately.

1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
and
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry techies 
you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the country and all 
exams.

Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we can 
think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement which 
stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know if 
anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a person who 
did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

Thanks
Kanchan
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[AI] Now, hone your skills via web

2010-09-09 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
The Hindu,  September 9, 2010

Now, hone your skills via web
Staff Reporter
CHENNAI: An online e-learning portal - www.careerstrokes.com - that aims to 
motivate students and young professionals and provide them with career 
enhancement skills was launched on Monday.
A business venture of the former Indian cricket captain, Kris Srikkanth, the 
website has 12 modules that contain pre-loaded lectures on a variety of topics 
that include leadership skills, stress management, communication skills, 
decision-making and negotiation. We have made the website rich in terms of 
graphics and visual content and all live lectures will be webcast from the 
studios, he said. There will be five live classes a month, including at least 
one by Mr. Srikkanth.
He said the teaching approach would be based on translating the concept of 
cricket for an easy understanding of complex management problems. In a country 
like India where cricket is nothing less than a religion, citing real time 
analogies from the world of cricket to explain the issues of life would go a 
long way, he said. What we learn in classes and what we do in real life is 
different, said Mr. Srikkanth.
Online learning with webinars, online discussions with experts, interviews with 
successful managers, theme-based learning and customised audio-visual 
interactions will be part of the programme, Mr. Srikkanth said. A 24-hour help 
line to assist people with their problems, archives to webcast the missed 
sessions and a help desk have also been facilitated in the site for the 
registered members, he added.
Mr. Srikkanth said that tie-ups with job portals and universities to cater to 
the problems faced by students and professionals are being looked at. An 
online cricket coaching site and an online forum to teach mathematics and 
science will be launched soon.


Regards
The world is not to be narrowed till it will go into the understanding . . . 
but the understanding is to be expanded till it can take in the world.
- Francis Bacon

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Re: [AI] exams

2010-09-14 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
No, no,
flavor of oral exam is different altogether.
I would not substitute written exam with it.
Moreover, many can write better than they talk..


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of jayinfotech
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] exams

Is it possible then that as essentially VI is giving oral exam thru` scribe, 
oral recording is directly use as answers  evaluated??? Also recording can be 
use as proof that no cheating is done.

Just a thought
Amit

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 14:31
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] exams

Dear sir,
I have also appeared for my LL.B exams through computer. but they
weretyping the question paper for me.
you can request them to type the question paper for you if you appear
for any exam for the next time.
Regards,
Akhilesh.


On 9/10/10, YADAV,  D. N yada...@iocl.co.in wrote:
 Yes Raghu, dear friends,

 I recently took up my exams on lap top  fairly managed.  I took my computer
 to the centre, was given an hour’s extra time.  Difficulty lay in reading
 the question paper which, I understand the univ should have facilitated me
 to read.  I had to take my scanner too to scan  read the Q paper.

 To me computer’s seems the best option without any fear for cheating or
 copying to an honest examinee.  The apprehensions of spelling corrections,
 etc cannot be solid inhibitions as for ‘nakal’ too you need ‘akal’  only
 good chooser can go for right option.  Besides, on college levels or in
 broader perspective where your analytical faculties are at stake, spelling
 mistakes get hardly counted.

 I have deep regard for Braille but now would better use it for a crutch to
 carry me to the portals of accessibility where a broad vista exists for me
 to integrate with rest of the communicative world.


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Re: [AI] Lekha is not detected

2010-09-14 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
No, in sappy 5, Lekha does not does not speak

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:53 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Lekha is not detected

Hi,
Lekha is automatically available with jaws 9 onwards, I don't think
you need to install it seperately. insert + control +s should take
you to synthesizer option where you may choose sapi5 which is lekha.
Regards,
Sandeep

At 06:38 AM 15-09-10, you wrote:
I have uninstalled and reinstalled it three times.
- - -
Ashik Hirani
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Skype: ashikali.hirani
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- Original Message - From: Sakina Dhariwala sfd100...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Lekha is not detected


Hi re install it and u r done.
- Original Message - From: ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com
To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:29 PM
Subject: [AI] Lekha is not detected


Dear Friends,

In my computer, I have installed Lekha which is a Hindi reader for
JAWS. I tried to detect Lekha after its installation, but it was
not found in the select synthesizer option. In my PC, JAWS10 AND
JAWS 11.0.756 ARE installed. So, my question is: why is Lekha is
not detected? How can I make it work? I have also tried to make a
new voice profile, but in this process, Lekha is not found. Please
suggest any solution.

Thanking you in advance.
- - -
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Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format

2010-09-15 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
RSVI lucknow may be of help, I believe.
I can provide contact details, if needed.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format

Hello!

We have checked with AICB and they don't have anything for U.P. board in
audio format.

Would request to provide some other source where the same can be found.

Would also urge students from U.P. board to kindly revert back if they have
the study material in audio format.


With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive, Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource
for living a fuller life with vision loss,
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar
Lajpat Nagar - 4, New Delhi - 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Website: www.eyeway.org.
- Original Message -
From: KARAN GUPTA kara...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format


Someone at AICB Delhi, should definitely be having the required study
material in audio format...

Kindest Regards
- Karan Gupta

~ Sent from my mobile device





-Original Message-
From: Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent:  13.09.2010, 5:24  PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format


Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway!


One of our helpdesk cliant from Shravasti, U.P. has recently taken admission
in class 10th in U.P. Board of open learning.
He is  in need of study material for the same in audio format. He has
checked with RSVI Luckhnow and NIVH Dehradun but they have books available
for Hindi and English only.

  Would appreciate if anyone having books for rest of the subjects can
revert back to us ASAP on the below contacts.


  Thanks in advance,

  With best regards,
  Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive, Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource
for living a fuller life with vision loss,
  C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar
  Lajpat Nagar - 4, New Delhi - 110024. India.
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Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format

2010-09-15 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Really strange
I hope RSVI can record books for other subjects, if asked.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format

Sir,

RSVI and NIVH have books for Hindi and English only. The student has already
contacted both the institutes.

Thanks


With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive, Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource
for living a fuller life with vision loss,
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar
Lajpat Nagar - 4, New Delhi - 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Website: www.eyeway.org.
- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format


RSVI lucknow may be of help, I believe.
I can provide contact details, if needed.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format

Hello!

We have checked with AICB and they don't have anything for U.P. board in
audio format.

Would request to provide some other source where the same can be found.

Would also urge students from U.P. board to kindly revert back if they have
the study material in audio format.


With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive, Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource
for living a fuller life with vision loss,
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar
Lajpat Nagar - 4, New Delhi - 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Website: www.eyeway.org.
- Original Message -
From: KARAN GUPTA kara...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format


Someone at AICB Delhi, should definitely be having the required study
material in audio format...

Kindest Regards
- Karan Gupta

~ Sent from my mobile device





-Original Message-
From: Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent:  13.09.2010, 5:24  PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Study material required for U.P. Board in Audio format


Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway!


One of our helpdesk cliant from Shravasti, U.P. has recently taken admission
in class 10th in U.P. Board of open learning.
He is  in need of study material for the same in audio format. He has
checked with RSVI Luckhnow and NIVH Dehradun but they have books available
for Hindi and English only.

  Would appreciate if anyone having books for rest of the subjects can
revert back to us ASAP on the below contacts.


  Thanks in advance,

  With best regards,
  Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive, Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource
for living a fuller life with vision loss,
  C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar
  Lajpat Nagar - 4, New Delhi - 110024. India.
  Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
  Website: www.eyeway.org.
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[AI] net offerings from google

2010-09-20 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Fresh offerings from Google
'Instant' search speculates query and pushes search output

Recently Google has come out with a slew of new features meant for making 
information retrieval further easy. A quick roundup of those features follows.
Google Instant
As you may have already noticed, Google has introduced a new feature called 
'Instant' search, which helps you obtain search results as soon as you start 
entering the string.
While you enter the search string, Google speculates your search intention and 
displays search results based on its guess in real-time. This means the search 
results will continue to change as you keep on entering the keyword/phrase. An 
advantage of this innovation is that we can obtain results prior to completing 
the full string and pressing the 'Enter' key. For instance, if you wish to view 
the current time in Sydney, Google will display it as soon as you enter the 
string 'time syd' - no need to finish the string and press the enter key. And 
if you intend to do simple computations with Google, it will display the result 
of an arithmetic expression at every stage - as soon as you begin entering a 
term (like 12*13) Google will start displaying the result of the computation in 
real-time. Of course, this feature may not be a huge productivity booster; but 
still this could be fun and useful. As already mentioned when you start typing 
in the search string Google speculates your search query and pushes the search 
output based on its guess. As described in the blog post here 
(http://www.researchbuzz. org/r/?p=2255), you can stop Google from guessing by 
prefixing the first search term with a '+'. Once the initial search term is 
prefixed with '+' Google will continuously display new search results for each 
of your keystrokes.
Apart from being used as a search facilitator, 'Google Instant' could be 
beneficial in other circumstances. For instance, an instructor teaching the 
features of Google search may find it useful while demonstrating certain search 
tricks. Another significant development in this domain is that the concept of 
'instantifying' has triggered the imagination of skilled program- mers 
worldwide and they are adopting it in different applications. One of them 
replicated this idea to Youtube and created 'Youtube Instant' 
(http://ytinstant.com/), an application to search Youtube videos in real-time. 
As you enter the string the service anticipates your intention and 
automatically starts playing a video based on its guess. As per the Venturebeat 
report here (http://venturebeat.com/2010/09/10/youtube-instant-job/), this 
application fetched the developer a job offer from Youtube. The application 
'GoogleMaps Instant' is yet another instance of this trend. It seems a plethora 
of such 'instantified' applications are coming up as can be seen from 
Instantise,which offers links to several similar applications.
Some people consider Google Instant as a distraction or a gimmick. Though it is 
too early to judge, one cannot simply ignore this innovation, which has the 
potential to change one's search behaviour.
Finding right blogs
There cannot be two opinions on the significance of blog technology, which has 
bestowed netizens with immense autonomy. It has become a major content 
dissemination channel for organizations, professionals and even for lay 
netizens. As a corollary, blogosphere has become a fertile ground for 
information seekers. Anyone doing serious research cannot afford to ignore the 
discussions taking place in the blogosphere. Regular scanning of blogs 
pertaining to one's area is a must and it would certainly fetch his/her rich 
dividends. However, despite the existence of many blog search engines (like 
Technorati, BlogPulse and Blogcatalog), spotting the right blogs related to a 
specific topic remains challenging even now. In this context, a new feature 
introduced by Google in its blog search, assumes relevance. Google's blog 
search has recently introduced a feature called 'Homepages meant for helping 
us easily find blogs related to a topic. For instance, if one invokes a 'blog 
search' on the string 'statistics', he/she will obtain all the blog posts that 
contain this string.
As you would already know, along with usual search results, Google offers 
latest updates from social messaging and networking sites such as Twitter, 
Facebook and Google Buzz too. Recently Google introduced a separate interface 
for its real-time search feature (http://www.google.com/realtime/). An 
advantage of this new facility is that it helps us sort the results according 
to location, time etc.
Expert search
Besides being an effective communication/information dissemination tool, 
Twitter helps us find subject experts. NetSpeak has already featured several 
tools meant for locating experts via Twitter database (like Listorious and 
Google Lab's 'Follow Finder'). If you are looking for yet another means to 
discover people knowledgeable in a particular subject 

[AI] Conducive environment sought for visually challenged in offices

2010-09-20 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
The hindu orisa page:
Conducive environment sought for visually challenged in offices
Staff Reporter
Seminar held on their problems in public, private sector units

BERHAMPUR: Visually challenged persons are yet to get conducive environment in 
offices of the government, private and public sector units which is affecting 
their employability in Orissa, opined experts at a seminar held in the city on 
Sunday.
The seminar on the topic of issues and challenges related to unemployment of 
visually challenged persons was organised by Milton Charitable Foundation for 
the Visually Handicapped (MCFVH). The seminar was attended by a large number of 
visually challenged youth for whom finding employment is a major issue.
The state of unemployed visually impaired persons was discussed in detail. 
Sashi Prabha Bindhani from Human Rights Network took up the issues related to 
reservation of posts in different sectors for the visually challenged.
It was pointed out that government and public sectors in Orissa were not 
adhering to norms of reservation for visually impaired while filling the 
vacancies. Senior advocate of Ganjam Bar Association Niranjan Nayak elucidated 
the policies and programmes of the government regarding provision of employment 
to the visually challenged persons.
Researcher M.K. Bisoyi in his address pointed out the lacking in official 
environment was proving a major hindrance for employment of visually impaired 
persons in both government and private institutions in Orissa.
Info demanded
The participants of the seminar demanded that in all offices there should be 
provision of required information in Braille mode and in crowded large offices 
there can be audio signals at strategic locations.
The youth attending the seminar said it was high time to have awareness 
programmes on big scale for general public.


Regards

Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

Rajesh Asudani

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
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Re: [AI] There is noone who is listening to classical music? or only music?

2010-09-23 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I believe the list was haunted by  blank mails from the id of the person 
concerned and not  generally by anybody else's.
I can empathize and bear with   this mail if it is from a teenage girl, not 
otherwise.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of neelima kumari
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] There is noone who is listening to classical music? or only music?

Hello access indians,

Before some days Mr Punekar had provided  a lot of useful information
about classical singer Pandit puttaraj who was  also blind. I don't
want to say anything about his blindness. Apart from that whatever he
had sent  was such an interesting but I did not see any reply for this
mail.

Can I ask why? If you can sent blank mail then why you can't send any
reply for this kind of mails?

There is noone who is listening to classical music? If everyone is
listening to DJ designed music then what about classical music?

Please reply

Looking for reply.

Don't send someuseless reply please because music is not a timepass.
Music is a god.

Thanks

with regard

Neelima

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Re: [AI] additional thoughts on mobility

2010-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Coming back to mahesh's case, need for guiding in mobility by team members 
while in america, cannot be the denying factor, rather it has to be considered 
part of enabling environment at workplace.
In other words, we cannot say that mahesh should go to US only if  he  has 
independent mobility skills.
More often than not, being escorted by somebody makes us more safe and brings 
much needed convenience in life.

So, Aisha, I request you to shed off your typically american attitude and 
consider the things Indian way.

Hats off to Jean for explaining the things so nicely.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:31 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] additional thoughts on mobility

Further to my previous posting, here are some other things to consider.

Many of you know that my work requires a lot of travel both inside India and to 
other parts of the world.  The fact is that I could not do my job if I lived in 
North America.  Why?  Because there is inadequate transport and I don't drive.  
America is a country in love with its cars and the transport infrastructure 
reflects this.  Even in the largest cities on the east coast it would be 
difficult or impossible to do the kind of work I do because there is inadequate 
transport.

America is set up for people who drive.  India on the other hand, is set up for 
people who don't drive.  Even with the increase in the amount of vehicles on 
the roads today, the infrastructure of trains, buses and rickshaws remains 
intact.  There is a culture of public transport.  Everyone uses it except the 
very wealthy.  In America most people who use public transport are the poor and 
those who have lost their driving license because of drunk driving.  Although 
in cities like New York, Boston and Washington this is not as much the case, 
there is no arguing the fact that America is geared to those who drive.

So what does that mean in a practical sense?  In America where a blind person 
can live is limited by the availability of public transport unless they make a 
choice to ask others for rides all the time.  It means a blind person's work 
location is also limited by the availability of transport unless he wants to 
depend on co-workers or taxis which are extremely expensive.  It also means 
that a blind person's social life is limited by these same factors unless he is 
accompanied by a sighted friend or relative.  In most places in the US, using 
public transportation is not a viable option if one is seeking equality in the 
ability to move about in society.

When a blind person in the west encounters some blind person from India or 
another developing country and that person has an assistant with them, some 
look upon this with scorn.  They observe that the blind person allows the 
assistant to make decisions for them and is not in control of how the assistant 
actually empowers that blind person to do his job more effectively.  But others 
look upon this with curiosity and some envy.  In America, one can not choose 
whether or not to travel with an assistant.  There are none.  One either does 
the thing himself or it doesn't get done at all.

One advantage we have here is that we can choose whether or not to seek 
assistance and we can govern how that assistance is utilized.  We can be very 
creative about this.  Having a personal assistant is part of the culture.  It 
is not at all considered unusual to have one so if you're blind, you can have 
your driver or your assistant and it's considered normal.  Not so in America.

If we choose to use it, we have a lot of autonomy here that is not available in 
the west.  If I have an appointment ten kilometers away for example and I 
either need or want to go there by myself, in India I go outside my building 
and get a rickshaw and go there.  In America I have two choices depending on 
where the appointment is.  I might be able to take several buses in which case 
I would have to plan ahead, figure out the schedules, find out if the bus goes 
anywhere close to the place I want to go, and perhaps spend several hours 
getting there and back.  Or, I can get a taxi which would cost an enormous 
amount of money.  Neither choice leads to equality.  People ask me all the time 
why I have remained in India as long as I have.  One of the biggest reasons is 
transport.

There are also significant disadvantages in India that we all know about and 
there is no need to reiterate them here, perhaps the biggest exclusionary 
factor we all face is social exclusion and paternalism.  This is probably the 
root cause of most of the difficulties of blind people.  In America, things are 
in general but not always more advanced in this department.

There are many other things that are more convenient here that are again, 
beyond the scope of this list.  All I want to say is that 

Re: [AI] additional thoughts on mobility

2010-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Of course, willingness to keep control in our hands and be independent as ffar 
as possible is always admirable.
Jean's example of holding the arm/hand of the guiding person and not vice versa 
is really nice.
However, I have observed blind folks trying to substitute their judgment while 
navigating even crucial and perilous points like stopping or proceeding while 
crossing the road in preference to escort's judgment, which is uncalled for and 
must put the escort in the difficult position of dispensability and 
unwantedness to say the least and may endanger lives of both, the escort and 
blind person at worst.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mahendra
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:59 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] additional thoughts on mobility

but friends, Jeen is talking about willingness to be independent,
trying our own bit,so to   say!!

i don't remember Mahesh replying to all this points, raised by members.
correct me, if i have missed out something from Mahesh.


   At 10:56 AM 9/27/2010, you wrote:
Coming back to mahesh's case, need for guiding in mobility by team
members while in america, cannot be the denying factor, rather it
has to be considered part of enabling environment at workplace.
In other words, we cannot say that mahesh should go to US only
if  he  has independent mobility skills.
More often than not, being escorted by somebody makes us more safe
and brings much needed convenience in life.

So, Aisha, I request you to shed off your typically american
attitude and consider the things Indian way.

 Hats off to Jean for explaining the things so nicely.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:31 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] additional thoughts on mobility

Further to my previous posting, here are some other things to consider.

Many of you know that my work requires a lot of travel both inside
India and to other parts of the world.  The fact is that I could not
do my job if I lived in North America.  Why?  Because there is
inadequate transport and I don't drive.  America is a country in
love with its cars and the transport infrastructure reflects
this.  Even in the largest cities on the east coast it would be
difficult or impossible to do the kind of work I do because there is
inadequate transport.

America is set up for people who drive.  India on the other hand, is
set up for people who don't drive.  Even with the increase in the
amount of vehicles on the roads today, the infrastructure of trains,
buses and rickshaws remains intact.  There is a culture of public
transport.  Everyone uses it except the very wealthy.  In America
most people who use public transport are the poor and those who have
lost their driving license because of drunk driving.  Although in
cities like New York, Boston and Washington this is not as much the
case, there is no arguing the fact that America is geared to those who drive.

So what does that mean in a practical sense?  In America where a
blind person can live is limited by the availability of public
transport unless they make a choice to ask others for rides all the
time.  It means a blind person's work location is also limited by
the availability of transport unless he wants to depend on
co-workers or taxis which are extremely expensive.  It also means
that a blind person's social life is limited by these same factors
unless he is accompanied by a sighted friend or relative.  In most
places in the US, using public transportation is not a viable option
if one is seeking equality in the ability to move about in society.

When a blind person in the west encounters some blind person from
India or another developing country and that person has an assistant
with them, some look upon this with scorn.  They observe that the
blind person allows the assistant to make decisions for them and is
not in control of how the assistant actually empowers that blind
person to do his job more effectively.  But others look upon this
with curiosity and some envy.  In America, one can not choose
whether or not to travel with an assistant.  There are none.  One
either does the thing himself or it doesn't get done at all.

One advantage we have here is that we can choose whether or not to
seek assistance and we can govern how that assistance is
utilized.  We can be very creative about this.  Having a personal
assistant is part of the culture.  It is not at all considered
unusual to have one so if you're blind, you can have your driver or
your assistant and it's considered normal.  Not so in America.

If we choose to use it, we have a lot of autonomy here that is not
available in the west.  If I have an appointment ten kilometers away
for example and I either need or want to go 

Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined  in his home, no?
Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb?

Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\
Only his team members have to escort him a bit.
Stringent laws are the need of the hour.
no education or counseling does any good.
Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality.
That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell  and that's why whole gammut 
of rule of law.
As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated query 
about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to 
disability:
Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole 
attitude would change.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of namdeo2000
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a
poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he
needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like
you, will not concede him that  amount because your logic is, why should you
waste your hard-earned money on him.
This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move around.In
the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the
name of his company.
 But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and
people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about,
his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but, suppose,
there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both
legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or
conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around.
Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message -
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Geetha Shamanna
gee...@millernorbert.de
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


 Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
 saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
 to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
 opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
 skills of independence?

 On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 jadhav.nam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
 mobility
 so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand  and guide him,
 he
 should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
 independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
 whatsoever.
 - Original Message -
 From: Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


 Hi Mahesh,

 Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
 independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
 office
 on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
 outside
 Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?

 The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
 extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
 requires
 assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
 colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
 their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
 only
 blind person they have come across in their whole existence.

 Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
 probably
 required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
 superior
 and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself
 during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on
 the
 colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list
 out
 his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
 traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently
 you
 dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to
 fight this battle on our own.

 Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send
 you
 to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
 local
 conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise,
 be
 the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
 events;
 so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
 these
 events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you
 changes.

 Geetha
 - Original Message -
 From: Mahesh Shah mss...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia 

Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Of course, of course, she also would  fall foul of coming upto  expectations of 
votaries  of strict self reliance.
And, then why madam aisha, do we give maternity leave to female employees, if 
everybody is equal and must be treated according to fixed standards of 
so-called independent productivity?

Please remember, equality is not uniformity.
differences have to be duly defered to.

And, let me reitterate again, independent mobility is a myth at least for 
blind, let anyone prove me wrong if they can.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash 
Ramdoss
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:01 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

 In addition to Steve Hawkins, are we also taking Helen Keller not in
to consideration?

On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined  in his home, no?
 Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb?

 Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\
 Only his team members have to escort him a bit.
 Stringent laws are the need of the hour.
 no education or counseling does any good.
 Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality.
 That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell  and that's why whole
 gammut of rule of law.
 As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated query
 about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to
 disability:
 Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole
 attitude would change.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of namdeo2000
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

 According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a
 poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he
 needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like
 you, will not concede him that  amount because your logic is, why should you
 waste your hard-earned money on him.
 This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move around.In
 the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the
 name of his company.
  But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and
 people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about,
 his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but, suppose,
 there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both
 legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or
 conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around.
 Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message -
 From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Geetha Shamanna
 gee...@millernorbert.de
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


 Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
 saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
 to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
 opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
 skills of independence?

 On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 jadhav.nam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
 mobility
 so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand  and guide him,
 he
 should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
 independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
 whatsoever.
 - Original Message -
 From: Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


 Hi Mahesh,

 Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
 independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
 office
 on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
 outside
 Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?

 The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
 extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
 requires
 assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
 colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
 their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
 only
 blind person they have come across in their whole existence.

 Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
 probably
 required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
 superior
 and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself

Re: [AI] Interview with Stephen Hawking

2010-09-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Wonderful.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash 
Ramdoss
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Interview with Stephen Hawking

 Hello Friends,
 It is indeed an eyeopening moment for many of us
Please take few minutes to watch this you tube video clip. Thanking You All.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaiPw6xuPE

Sathiyaprakash

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Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

2010-09-29 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I think paying extra money to hold mahesh's hand while in america was not at 
all insisted upon by him.
Boss simply rejected hisnomination due to the fact that they would be required 
to hold his hand while traveling in america!!!
Now, what do you say?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha sahani
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

I agree that equality is not uniformity, but put yourself in shoes of
his boss, why in the world he'd like to invest extra money for mr.
Mahesh?


I'm aware there are CSR drives, but you can't fight for CSR things,
they are done as per the company policies and one's own willingness.

If mr. Mahesh is using jaws in his office, company people might have
provided that, which is a reasonable accommodation.

Suppose he demands for a daily escort to pick and drop him saying that
his mobility is not good and he is skilled otherwise, would you say
its justified?

I don't say that its at all possible for a blind person to move with
complete independence, but no one denies you to take help from local
people including strangers, the world is still helpful around the
globe.

Moreover, that's what i say.
He can surely take help from his colleagues, but he can't insist his
management to pay money to those  colleagues for helping him.

When i go to college, i take help from strangers to catch the buss, to
reach my destination, etc.
I won't like to ask my parents to pick and drop me every day, as they
all have their own works. Right?

I guess i'm still independent in mobility.

For me, the definition of independence is to perform your work without
bothering others.
In fact, if a stranger helps me, he/she is doing from willingness, not
any insistence.
Aisha sahani.










On 9/28/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Of course, of course, she also would  fall foul of coming upto  expectations
 of votaries  of strict self reliance.
 And, then why madam aisha, do we give maternity leave to female employees,
 if everybody is equal and must be treated according to fixed standards of
 so-called independent productivity?

 Please remember, equality is not uniformity.
 differences have to be duly defered to.

 And, let me reitterate again, independent mobility is a myth at least for
 blind, let anyone prove me wrong if they can.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash
 Ramdoss
 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:01 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

  In addition to Steve Hawkins, are we also taking Helen Keller not in
 to consideration?

 On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined  in his home, no?
 Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb?

 Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\
 Only his team members have to escort him a bit.
 Stringent laws are the need of the hour.
 no education or counseling does any good.
 Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality.
 That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell  and that's why whole
 gammut of rule of law.
 As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated
 query
 about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to
 disability:
 Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole
 attitude would change.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of namdeo2000
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

 According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a
 poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he
 needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like
 you, will not concede him that  amount because your logic is, why should
 you
 waste your hard-earned money on him.
 This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move
 around.In
 the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the
 name of his company.
  But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and
 people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about,
 his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but,
 suppose,
 there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both
 legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or
 conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around.
 Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message
 -
 From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv

Re: [AI] Any positive experience from alternative treatments for RP?

2010-09-29 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
No, at least kerala ayurvedic treatments are not useful for one of my friends 
who lost her sight gradually,  and wasted about six months there, apart from 
making a few friends only.
I am all for scientific mind and methods for discovering any new things, but 
unfortunately ayurvedic and other modes of traditional medicine do not follow 
scientific methods.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of surya narayana
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Any positive experience from alternative treatments for RP?

Hello friends,
I heard one of our fellow men got some possitive results from
ayurvedic treatment. We can't say they are totally waste but useful to
some. I feel they may not be helpfull for a stone blind but may be
useful for those who lost their sight gradually or in some accidents.
let the scientsts come out their findings. hope for the best nothing
is impossible but takes time.

On 9/28/10, Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI friends,



 I know this topic has been discussed many times on this list.  And I
 personally don't believe any of those treatments like Ayurvedic,
 acupuncture, homeopathy etc.  But one of my friends wants to know whether
 any of these treatments has left any positive experience for anyone,
 especially in the initial stages of RP.  So, if anyone has any such
 experience, please contact me off the list at

 gvamsh...@gmail.com



 Friends, please don't clutter this list with general opinions.   I have
 given her all the necessary scientific information, and I am only looking
 for someone as above mentioned so that I can get her to contact them.



 Regards,

 Vamshi G

 M: +91 9949349497

 R: +91 877 2243861

 Skype: gvamshi81



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[AI] FW: United Nations Enable Newsletter, July-September 2010

2010-09-30 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


-Original Message-
From: Dspd Enable [mailto:ena...@un.org]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:30 AM
To: enab...@un.org
Subject: United Nations Enable Newsletter, July-September 2010


ENABLE NEWSLETTER
July-September 2010

The Enable Newsletter is prepared by the Secretariat for the Convention on
the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (SCRPD) at the United Nations
Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA). Input has been received
from UN offices, agencies, funds and programmes, as well as from civil
society. It is also available on-line at: http://www.un.org/disabilities.

In this issue:

   §Status of the Convention
   §Highlights
   §Upcoming events
   §Other news


STATUS OF THE CONVENTION (CRPD)

94 ratifications of the Convention
147 signatories to the Convention

Optional Protocol to the Convention

58 ratifications of the Optional Protocol
90 signatories to the Optional Protocol

Recent signatures and ratifications:

Ethiopia ratified the Convention on 7 July 2010
Grenada signed the Convention on 12 July 2010
Malaysia ratified the Convention on 19 July 2010
Honduras ratified the Optional Protocol on 16 August 2010
Lithuania ratified the Convention on 18 August 2010
Lithuania ratified the Optional Protocol on 18 August 2010
Latvia ratified the Optional Protocol on 31 August 2010
Senegal ratified the Convention on 7 September 2010
Bhutan signed the Convention on 21 September 2010
Moldova ratified the Convention on 21 September 2010
Nigeria ratified the Convention on 24 September 2010
Nigeria ratified the Optional Protocol on 24 September 2010
Armenia ratified the Convention on 22 September 2010
Greece signed the Optional Protocol on 27 September 2010

Third Conference of States Parties, 1-3 September 2010
The third Conference of States Parties to the Convention was held from 1- 3
September 2010 at UN Headquarters in New York, under the theme:
“Implementing the Convention through Advancing Inclusion of Persons with
Disabilities”.  The session began with elections for members of the
Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities in accordance with
article 34 of the Convention. As the total number of ratifications had
passed 80, the membership of the Committee was increased by six to a total
of 18 members. Additional elections were held for the six members of the
Committee whose term expires in 2010. Substantive roundtable discussions
and an interactive informal session with civil society discussed the
implementation of Articles 11, 19 and 24 of the Convention. An update was
also provided on implementation of the Convention within the UN System. For
the first time, a Civil Society Forum was held on the day prior to the
opening of the Convention. The next Conference will be held on 7-9
September 2011. More information:
http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=1532.


HIGHLIGHTS

Report of the Secretary-General to the 65th Session of the General Assembly
The report titled “Keeping the Promise: realizing the Millennium
Development Goals for persons with disabilities towards 2015 and beyond”
will be before the 65th Session of the General Assembly. It reviews the
implementation of the World Programme of Action concerning Disabled
Persons, as well as progress and challenges concerning the advancement of
persons with disabilities in the context of the MDGs with a focus on the
status of disability data and statistics. More information:
http://www.un.org/disabilities/documents/gadocs/a_65_173.doc.

Disability included in Outcome Document of the 2010 MDG Summit
Following on a proposal by the UN Secretary-General, the General Assembly
convened a High-level Plenary Meeting on 20-22 September, with the primary
objective to accelerate progress towards all the Millennium Development
Goals (MDGs) by 2015. At the 2010 MDG Summit, Governments conducted a
comprehensive review of successes, best practices and lessons learned,
obstacles and gaps, challenges and opportunities in achieving the MDGs and
adopted an outcome document, a resolution (A/65/1) which also includes
references to persons with disabilities. More information:
http://www.un.org/en/mdg/summit2010.
Prior to the summit, the 2010 MDGs Global Report was released and includes
several references to disability and persons with disabilities. See the
full report at:
http://www.un.org/en/mdg/summit2010/pdf/MDG%20Report%202010%20En%20r15%20-low%20res%2020100615%20-.pdf
.

DESA/World Bank - UN Expert Group Meeting on accessibility
On 28-30 June 2010, the “Expert Group Meeting on Accessibility: innovative
and cost-effective approaches for inclusive and accessible development” was
organized in collaboration with the World Bank and held at their
Headquarters in Washington DC. The experts reviewed current standards and
practices on accessibility and work to develop practical guidelines for
disability-inclusive policy frameworks to ensure accessibility for persons
with disabilities, with reasonable adaptation, in both the physical

[AI] FW: September 2010 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

2010-10-04 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


From: Mahesh Chandrasekar [mailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:53 PM
To: CBR Forum: Admin
Subject: September 2010 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

CBR Forum E-News Bulletin
- A Compilation of News, Information and Updates

September 2010 - CBR Forum - E- News Bulletin

First issue: Oct 2007, Current Issue No. #37

Networking, Advocacy and Lobbying - in promoting the rights of persons with 
disabilities and enhance the potential to exercise these rights.
Compiled by:
Mary Battihun and C. Mahesh
advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.commailto:advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com


A: INDIA

Minutes of the Meeting of the Committee to Draft New Legislation to replace PwD 
Act, 1995

For details click on http://socialjustice.nic.in/committee.php

New Persons with Disabilities Act

The New PDA Committee has established sub-groups to settle the substantive 
content of the new law. The various discussion documents put together by the 
sub-groups are being uploaded under the title of the particular group.
http://www.disabilitystudiesnalsar.org/lawpolicy.php

Forums for posting your opinion on the New Law

http://www.forum.disabilitystudiesnalsar.org/index.php


Disability law drafting process non-consultative

Disability activists from across the State have urged the panel set up by the 
Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment to draft the new Disability Bill to 
include the community and make the process transparent.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/93313/disability-law-drafting-process-non.html


The process of drafting a new law for the disabled is neither transparent nor 
participative, say disability rights activists.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Committee-drafting-new-law-for-disabled-not/articleshow/6488653.cms

UNCRPD Country Report - India

The Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, Government of India has 
identified the Centre for Disability Studies, NALSAR University of Law to 
prepare the first Country Report on the UNCRPD. In order to prepare this 
comprehensive report, the Centre for Disability Studies has been pro-actively 
collecting information from governmental and non governmental organizations on 
the current situation of disability rights in the country.
http://www.disabilitystudiesnalsar.org/report.php



Govt mulls job quota for special persons in pvt sector

MYSORE: Labour minister B N Bachegowda has said the government is in the 
process of bringing in an amendment to labour laws to facilitate employment of 
the physically challenged persons in private sectors.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mysore/Govt-mulls-job-quota-for-special-persons-in-pvt-sector/articleshow/6493292.cms#ixzz0yjW66xGG


Efforts to get exact number of disabled in state

BANGALORE: The State Consultation on New Law and Census 2011 was held here on 
Tuesday to discuss inclusion of disability in the census enumeration that will 
soon be conducted.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Efforts-to-get-exact-number-of-disabled-in-state/articleshow/6470940.cms#ixzz0ySEoat8b
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Efforts-to-get-exact-number-of-disabled-in-state/articleshow/6470940.cms#ixzz0ySEZT88o


Survey on disabled soon

JAIPUR: The government will conduct a survey to find out the number of disabled 
people in the state. It will also provide unique identification number and 
certificate so that they can avail all the benefits.
Read more: Survey on disabled soon - Jaipur - City - The Times of India 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Survey-on-disabled-soon/articleshow/6482254.cms#ixzz0yRl6tfNG


RTE Act ignores children from minority groups, say activists

Members of various NGOs and child rights activists, working for free, 
compulsory and quality education for underprivileged children, on Thursday 
lamented the fact that formulators and writers of the Right to Education (RTE) 
Act had failed to include children belonging to diverse minority groups.
http://www.dnaindia.com/academy/report_rte-act-ignores-children-from-minority-groups-say-activists_1432873

Disabled face discrimination at rail reservation

CHENNAI: Four disabled persons were turned away from the special counter for 
them at Mambalam station.
http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/disabled-face-discrimination-at-rail-reservation/205788.html

Central aid with a vision

Shillong, Sept. 7: When Meghalaya chief minister Mukul Sangma greeted Bertha 
Dkhar, a visually impaired teacher of Jyoti Sroat School and a Padmashree, here 
today, there were few in the gathering who could refrain from feeling glad.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100908/jsp/northeast/story_12910228.jsp


All buildings to be disabled-friendly

MYSORE: The buildings constructed for public use will not get a clearance for 
occupation till they are certified to be disabled-friendly. Mysore is taking 
the lead, which will soon be replicated, across the state. The state 
commissioner for persons with disabilities, 

[AI] Report on Silver Jubilee National Convention of BGFI

2010-10-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Silver Jubilee Convention
Blind Graduates forum of India

Silver jubilee convention of Blind graduates forum of India was held at 
Dhananjayrav Gadgil Institute of cooperative management, Nagpur, on October 2 
and 3, 2010.

About fifty delegates from Nagpur and outside actively participated in the 
convention. Dr. Shirish Deshpande, professor and head department of Post 
graduate teaching department of Law, Rashtra Sant tukdoji maharaj Nagpur 
University and himself a Visually challenged, delivered the keyhnote address in 
the inaugural session. He delineated the importance of political and legal 
process in improving the life conditions of visually challenged apart from 
social and economic opportunities. He particularly emphasized the value of 
access to education and urged the government and civil society to take a 
holistic approach towards it including accessibility to institutions inform of 
non discriminatory admissions suitable infrastructure, study material,   
transport and legitimate assistance. He also called upon all stake holders to 
contribute actively in formation of a new disability statute. Mr. Neeraj 
Saksena, Hon. Secretary of BGFI, recounted history of the organization with 
special emphasis on the proactive and continuing nature of its activities 
particularly towards personality development of the blind and called upon young 
generation to continue the legacy for betterment of the blind.  Mr. Avinash 
Sanghvi, the working president of Saksham, declared that there is a synergy 
among all working in the field of disability and assured to work together in 
future as well for useful projects. Rajesh Asudani, vice president, delivered 
the presidential remarks in absence of president Mr. Harish Kotian due to 
inevitable reasons.

The post lunch session was characterized by unmatched vibrancy and interaction. 
Some technocrats from Pune demonstrated various educational products including 
much-awaited Hindi Optical character recognition software. It is expected to be 
available very soon.
Mr. David from Vijayawada spoke on how proficiency in language can create 
various opportunities for visually challenged. Dr. G.H. Asudani, associate 
professor anandniketan college of agriculture, Warora, brought home the 
importance of competitive exams and what visually challenged students can and 
should do to be competitive and succeed at them. Dr. Ram babu from Tata 
Institute of Social science, Mumbai, depicted the society's response to 
disability. In his lively and interactive session, he noted the subtle but 
important transition from apathy and avoidance to curiosity and positivity, 
crisscrossing with denial and unreasonableness on one hand and due 
acknowledgement and reasonable behaviour on the other.

The first day concluded with an open session where each of the participants had 
a chance not only to introduce themselves but also to put forth   their prime 
concern as a visually challenged. Mostly, the participants expressed 
rural-urban divide, economic deprivation in conjunction with disability to be 
the major inhibiting factor in their life. Need for technology training and 
personality development along with residential facilities in the city for those 
coming from suburban and rural areas was felt.

Response of the participants on the second day was also overwhelming. Dr. 
Deshpande graced the gathering with his suo motu presence on the second day. 
Mr. Lakshman Khapekar, a well known visually impaired social activist was also 
present. Dr. Vinod Asudani, Associate professor and head of the department, 
Social sciences, Ramdevbaba Kamla Nehru Engineering college Nagpur and renowned 
HRD trainer, underlined importance of motivation in face of disability. He 
opined that self acceptance along with effective contact with immediate 
surroundings, positive attitude and a sense of humor are the key factors in 
leading a meaningful life despite disability. Rajesh Asudani, Assistant General 
Manager Reserve bank of India, spoke about various challenges before visually 
challenged at present including Physical, Legal, economic, Technological, 
psycho-social etc. He also distributed RBI circular about banking facilities to 
the visually challenged and Maharashtra HC guidelines about scribe among the 
participants. Nagpur MNC resolution about free bus facility to blind was also 
distributed.

The Open session was continued on the second day as well, where some lady 
participants expressed anguish about arbitrary scribe policy of the government 
and about unreasonable ways of Maharashtra government which deprive totally 
blind of almost all jobs. Mr. Rajesh Asudani agreed with their concern and 
pointed out an instance of Maharashtra government where only the post of music 
lecturer is identified for blind and not any other post of lecturer. He further 
assured gathering that some meaningful provisions about scribe on the lines of 
maharashtra HC guidelines would be shortly introduced at the 

Re: [AI] help needed

2010-10-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Now, this is nauseating


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Subject: [AI] help needed

hello friends i want direct links to download dropbox and skipe. if
any one of you have it please send it to my personal email i d
aliluha...@gmail.com. it is very urgent so please reply soon.
thankyou. cell 09913211468

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Re: [AI] please call your mom

2010-10-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Now, what's this, a mom,  virus?


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of VIJAY KUMAR P.V.S.
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] please call your mom

Hi Ashok:



Sorry I didn't get your message, and the link you have mentioned is not
working.



With warm regards

VIJAY

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Subject: [AI] please call your mom


 its been ages since ive seen you I am pretty sure I heard that you have
 been doing well I this this was especially made for you
 http://bit.ly/b7qGYx this was truly all the motivation I needed itd be
 best to start this as soon as you can
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[AI] Meeting for suggestions to disability committee

2010-10-05 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends, particularly in and around Nagpur
BGFI along with a few prominent persons in the disability field has organized a 
meeting to finalize suggestions to the drafting committee of disability law.
Do attend the meeting for discussing suggestions to the committee on drafting a 
new disability law at 3P.M. Sunday october 10, 2010, at PGTD Law, MBA campus 
Beside Law college, amravati road, nagpur.



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[AI] FW: request for finding out government GR

2010-10-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


Friends
Could anyone help find out a tamilnadu government GR treating diploma in  
engineering at par with HSSC?
A VC girl was turned down from interview at the eleventh hour due to bank's 
insistence that it is not so, and she was asked to produce the said GR.
She is confident that such a GR is in existence but is unable to locate it;.
Any assistance is appreciated as she is facing another interview on Monday and 
is apprehensive that the same would be repeated with her.
Rajesh



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[AI] Popularizing science

2010-10-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
FOCUS: VIGYAN PRASAR

Popularising science


A SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT


Vigyan Prasar's diverse programmes have been a huge success in terms of 
improving people's understanding of science.





P.V. SIVAKUMAR

Inside 'Vigyan Rail', the train-borne science exhibition conceived and 
implemented by Vigyan Prasar.

ARTICLE 51A (h) of the Constitution upholds scientific temper to be one of the 
fundamental duties of every citizen: It shall be the duty of every citizen of 
India to develop the scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and 
reform. One clear way of inculcating scientific temper in the public at large 
is to increase Public Understanding of Science (PUoS). This is a task that 
Vigyan Prasar (V.P.), an autonomous registered society under the Department of 
Science and Technology (DST), has been engaged in for the past 20 years.

Founded on October 12,1989, V.P. has diverse activities in the public outreach 
of science. While promoting and propagating a scientific and rational outlook 
in society, it has constantly diversified and improvised its activities to meet 
its objectives.

Over the years, V.P. has nurtured interest in science among people, encouraged 
creativity, and developed in people the capacity for informed decision-making. 
Besides developing and disseminating original and interesting communication 
material for print, electronic and digital media, V.P. trains science 
communicators, catalyses creative activities and conducts research in various 
aspects of science and technology (ST) communication. The stated vision of 
V.P. is to continuously strive to emerge as an institution for capacity 
building in science communication and as the central node for knowledge 
resource networks for science dissemination and popularisation among people...

To this end, V.P. has consistently adapted, employed and utilised new and 
emerging technologies and established itself as a leading resource-cum-facility 
centre in ST communication in the country. Today, V.P. is a major national 
centre for the development and dissemination of high-quality software on ST 
communication. In particular, its efforts at production and airing of science 
programmes on radio and television, and utilisation of modern technologies for 
spreading science among the masses have been highly appreciated. Some of its 
prominent activities are as follows:

TV Programmes

Since May 2005, V.P. has produced and aired science programmes on Doordarshan's 
National channel, initially in collaboration with the Development and 
Educational Communication Unit of the Indian Space Research Organisation 
(ISRO), and now on its own. DVDs of these are popular in educational 
institutions. V.P. is scheduled to launch programmes through the Lok Sabha TV 
channel shortly.

Some of the highly acclaimed television serials of V.P. include a 26-part 
science quiz serial titled Jigyasa and a 12-part serial Jeete Raho on 
common ailments and medicines. A 26-part serial, Kahani Dharti Ki (The Story 
of Earth), produced as part of the International Year of Planet Earth 2008, 
began in February 2009. It was also aired beginning September 2009. Judging 
from the thousands of e-mail responses received, the serials are popular 
outside the country as well, notably in Pakistan. A three-part serial on 
Eclipses was produced on the occasion of the total solar eclipse of 2009.

The popular serials have been dubbed into 11 Indian languages for transmission 
on DD Direct satellite channels and regional Doordarshan Kendras. As part of 
the International Year of Astronomy 2009 (IYA 2009), a 26-episode serial on 
astronomy, Taaron Ki Sair, was produced and telecast. A 13-part serial, 
Baatein Raaz ki, using simple experiments to explain and illustrate basic 
scientific themes, was initiated last year in collaboration with AV-Code, 
Ahmedabad.

Currently, we are in the process of making a 26-part series for Doordarshan 
called 'Experiments that shaped the world', said Dr Amit Roy, director, 
Inter-University Accelerator Centre (IUAC). These will look at pathbreaking 
discoveries in the field of natural and biological sciences, instances of 
departures of thought that changed the course of science.

Other forthcoming TV programmes are serials on chemistry in our life and 
science species apart from a weekly science news magazine.

Radio Programmes

Considering the wider reach of radio, V.P. has collaborated with All India 
Radio (AIR) extensively over the past few years. It produced a 52-episode radio 
serial called Dharti Meri Dharti on the earth, the broadcast of which began 
in January 2008 from 117 stations of AIR in 19 Indian languages and continued 
until January 2009. The serial was popular among schoolchildren and the general 
public.





A 52-episode serial on astronomy, Sitaaron Se Aage, was produced on the same 
pattern, the broadcast of which began in April 2009.

The broadcast on WorldSpace satellite digital radio in English (30 minutes) 

[AI] HC action to make buildings disabled friendly

2010-10-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Times of India:


NAGPUR: The Nagpur bench of Bombay High 
Courthttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Bombay%20High%20Court 
on Wednesday directed the state government to allow free access to a team of 
petitioners and experts from Indian Institute of 
Architectshttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Indian%20Institute%20of%20Architects
 (IIA) to all government buildings in the city to explore possibilities of 
making then friendly for the physically handicapped.

The court's direction came on a plea filed by P N Andhare, a disabled scientist 
from the city, through his counsel Trupti Udeshi who is also physically 
handicapped. A division bench comprising justices Sharad Bobde and Mridula 
Bhatkar granted two weeks more to the government to file a reply on whether 
facilities for disabled could be constructed at Vasantrao Deshpande hall and 
social welfare department.

The team will visit every government department and look for the facilities for 
disabled persons. It will also suggest how facilities like ramps could be 
erected there. The petitioner, who is 80% disabled, had filed the PIL through 
an NGO Indradhanu praying for compliance of Maharashtra government resolution 
of 2005 which mandated facilities for disabled. Secretary of Indradhanu Prakash 
Sohoni is another petitioner.

According to the duo, local authorities including Nagpur Municipal 
Corporationhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Nagpur%20Municipal%20Corporation
 (NMC) should make efforts to implement byelaws, guidelines and measures to 
ensure a barrier-free environment and non-discrimination in transport for the 
handicapped and senior citizens. Giving examples, Andhare and Sohoni pointed 
out that social welfare department was on second floor in Zilla Parishad 
building and there was no provision of lift.

Moreover, in the renovated government buildings including Deshpande Hall, no 
efforts were made to incorporate ramp or railing to benefit the disabled. 
Pointing out several lacunae on the roads and footpaths, the petitioners 
claimed they were laid in such a way that it became difficult for both the 
disabled and the elderly to move while encroachments on all footpaths created 
obstacles in movement.

They contended that despite Lokayukta's recommendations, the master 
transportation plan for the city had no provisions for disabled



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Re: [AI] Reservation for disabled in co-operatives in kerala

2010-10-11 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, Niranjan, it surely is.
I think we must press for inclusion of disability reservation and reasonable 
accommodation for all employer receiving any aid/facilities from government and 
even those delivering services hitherto delivered by government.


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of niranjanraj urs
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 1:24 PM
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Subject: [AI] Reservation for disabled in co-operatives in kerala

Dear friends,
There is good news. The 14th amendment to co-op law in Kerala , inter
alia, provide for reserving 3% of vacancies in co-operatives in the
state to disabled persons. The extent of disability should be 40% or
more,certified by the medical board(S.80-4).In Kerala, co-operatives
are the largest employers after government. This is really a welcome
development as it opens up employment oppurtunities to disabled
persons.
Niranjan

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[AI] BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

2010-10-11 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Press Release

BGFI Suggests to New Disability Law Committee

Blind Graduates Forum of India, a non-government organization working for all 
round development of the visually challenged, in its efforts for providing a 
voice to Visually challenged and other disabled in law and policy formation and 
implementation, has come up with a broad range of suggestions for the 
government committee drafting the new law to replace the existing persons with 
Disabilities act, 1995.
The meeting to illicit suggestions and comments of persons with Disabilities on 
the reports prepared by said committee was convened on Sunday, 10/10/10, at the 
PGTD Law, Nagpur. Around thirty participants cutting across various 
disabilities came forth with their observations.
Dr. Rajat Agrawal, a well-known eye specialist working in California US and 
hailing from the city, interacted with the participants in the beginning, 
giving details of his evolving path-breaking research about Bionic eye which 
has the potential of making persons with retinal problems  see again. Answering 
participants' queries, He also gave his valuable inputs towards formulating a 
useful definition of blindness and low vision. Nagpur may soon have a local 
chapter of Retina India, network founded by him to inculcate awareness and 
advocacy for retinal patients nationwide.
Dr. Shirish Deshpande, HoD, PGTD Law RTMNU, and Mr. Rajesh Asudani, Vice 
president BGFI, acquainted all participants with ongoing work of the drafting 
committee making new disability law and its updated reports. Each participant 
then spoke about her/his comments on it and the issues they felt the new law 
must address. The discussion was properly channelized by Dr. Vinod Asudani, 
Hon. National secretary of the forum.
Some of the important suggestions which were finalized to be recommended to the 
Govt. committee include:

*Set up Disability Disputes Redressal fora for deciding disability 
rights cases, at district, state and national level;

*Make provision for enforcement decree for judgments of  such fora;

*Divest CCPD and SCDs of disputes deciding powers;

*Make the recognition of educational institutions contingent on their 
following disability specific measures;

*Make all private players receiving any sort of aid from Govt. follow 
disability reservation

*Ensure that at least the private players who provide public utility 
services earlier provided by Govt. follow disability law provisions including 
reservation of jobs;

*Make presence of at least 30% disabled persons mandatory on executive 
committees of disability NGOs;

*Define disability to include medical parameters and index of 
activities of daily life, rather than in purely medical terms;

*Clearly lay down modalities of reservation for the disabled, like 
treatment of horizontality and merit based selection, etc.;

*Clearly stipulate details about human assistance during exams like  
scribe to visually challenged;

*Accord full faith and credit clause of constitution to disability 
certificates and make them basis for availing all and every facility relating 
to disability;

Delink reasonable accommodation in employment from reservation of posts;

*Provide for mandatory disability audit of all the govt. schemes;

*Provide for enhanced punishment to offences against women with 
disabilities;

*Include Disabled explicitly in the definition of priority sector 
lending for banks;

*Make non-observance of the provisions of disability act a civil 
liability and ground for specific relief and financial penalties clearly linked 
to violation and with a view to provide for them;

*Make right to life meaningful by making it obligatory for government 
to bear cost of all corrective measures like cochlear implants, prosthetics, 
corneal transplants,, etc. and making corneal donation compulsory at least in 
government hospitals;

*Give clear mandate to government to provide all and every reasonable 
accommodation to disabled in education and employment including assistive 
technology;

*Provide for personal pecuniary liability in cases of willful default.




These and many other points were enthusiastically deliberated upon and 
participants noted that the drafting committee reports do not contain clear cut 
provisions about many of these matters. It was decided that a memorandum would 
be shortly forwarded to the law drafting committee. Dr. Deshpande ably guided 
the deliberations and Mr. Lakshman Khapekar, Mr. Prakash Andhare, Adv. Vandana 
Navghare, Adv. Nandita Dube and others were prominently present.


(Dr. Vinod Asudani)
Hon. Secretary
Blind Graduates Forum of India

October 11, 2010








I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert 

[AI] FW: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

2010-10-11 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:08 AM
To: 'vib-in...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

Another issue to be incorporated is restriction of doctors to certify a person 
fit or otherwise for a given job.
A doctor should only certify existence and extent of an impairment or 
otherwise, and disability or fitness for a given job or activity should better 
be left to a well competent interdisciplinary board...


What do you all say?
The present committee has not at all taken up this issue..


From: vib-in...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vib-in...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of bv
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:36 PM
To: vib-in...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

HI Rajesh, You have discussed the law in detail. I would like to add that 
Rehabilitation of persons acquired disability should be mandatory which is not 
dealt with in the old Act. Accessibility of job should also be guaranteed. In 
many institutions do not care about providing accessible tools to the visually 
challenged. I would add in details shortly. BV.

From: Asudani, Rajeshmailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:09 PM
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Subject: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

Press Release

BGFI Suggests to New Disability Law Committee

Blind Graduates Forum of India, a non-government organization working for all 
round development of the visually challenged, in its efforts for providing a 
voice to Visually challenged and other disabled in law and policy formation and 
implementation, has come up with a broad range of suggestions for the 
government committee drafting the new law to replace the existing persons with 
Disabilities act, 1995.
The meeting to illicit suggestions and comments of persons with Disabilities on 
the reports prepared by said committee was convened on Sunday, 10/10/10, at the 
PGTD Law, Nagpur. Around thirty participants cutting across various 
disabilities came forth with their observations.
Dr. Rajat Agrawal, a well-known eye specialist working in California US and 
hailing from the city, interacted with the participants in the beginning, 
giving details of his evolving path-breaking research about Bionic eye which 
has the potential of making persons with retinal problems  see again. Answering 
participants' queries, He also gave his valuable inputs towards formulating a 
useful definition of blindness and low vision. Nagpur may soon have a local 
chapter of Retina India, network founded by him to inculcate awareness and 
advocacy for retinal patients nationwide.
Dr. Shirish Deshpande, HoD, PGTD Law RTMNU, and Mr. Rajesh Asudani, Vice 
president BGFI, acquainted all participants with ongoing work of the drafting 
committee making new disability law and its updated reports. Each participant 
then spoke about her/his comments on it and the issues they felt the new law 
must address. The discussion was properly channelized by Dr. Vinod Asudani, 
Hon. National secretary of the forum.
Some of the important suggestions which were finalized to be recommended to the 
Govt. committee include:

Set up Disability Disputes Redressal fora for deciding disability rights cases, 
at district, state and national level;

Make provision for enforcement decree for judgments of  such fora;

Divest CCPD and SCDs of disputes deciding powers;

Make the recognition of educational institutions contingent on their following 
disability specific measures;

Make all private players receiving any sort of aid from Govt. follow disability 
reservation

Ensure that at least the private players who provide public utility services 
earlier provided by Govt. follow disability law provisions including 
reservation of jobs;

Make presence of at least 30% disabled persons mandatory on executive 
committees of disability NGOs;

Define disability to include medical parameters and index of activities of 
daily life, rather than in purely medical terms;

Clearly lay down modalities of reservation for the disabled, like treatment of 
horizontality and merit based selection, etc.;

Clearly stipulate details about human assistance during exams like  scribe to 
visually challenged;

Accord full faith and credit clause of constitution to disability certificates 
and make them basis for availing all and every facility relating to disability;

Delink reasonable accommodation in employment from reservation of posts;

Provide for mandatory disability audit of all the govt. schemes;

Provide for enhanced punishment to offences against women with disabilities;

Include Disabled explicitly in the definition of priority sector lending for 
banks;

Make non-observance of the provisions of disability act a civil liability and 
ground for specific relief and financial penalties

Re: [AI] regarding formatting memory card

2010-10-11 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Such a problem of one of my friends was solved when I formatted her memory card 
through her mobile itself and then inserted it in my card reader..
Do give it a try.



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:07 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] regarding formatting memory card

Dear AI list,
When I am attempting to format my 512 mb memory card of nokia n72 through 
computer,
the message: the disk is right protected.
 although I can save data into memory card through usb data cable but data 
saving through memory card reader is not possible due to message disk is right 
protected.
I have tried doing error checking and disk defragment under system tab of 
memory card property but unable to do as again it is showing disk right 
protected.
pls tell, how I can remove this right protection from memory card if any.
how can I solve this problem.

Sandeep G
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Re: [AI] Google provides the visually-impaired with two new sets of Android Eyes

2010-10-13 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
What is the cost of the android model and accessibility of such models?


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:01 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Google provides the visually-impaired with two new sets of 
Android Eyes

hi list,
i got to read the following news somewhere on the web, and thought to
share it with you.
it looks interesting  to me, so if there's any android user on the
list, i'd like to request her/him to please give it a try  and let us
know about your experiences with the following applications.

will look forward for your responses.



Google provides the visually-impaired with two new sets of Android Eyes
---


Google has released two new Android applications designed to help the
blind and visually impaired with walking directions, pairing Google
Maps with GPS
navigation technology. The applications are
WalkyTalky
 (from Google's Eyes-Free Project) eeand
Intersection Explorer.

Here's how Google describes them:

WalkyTalky
WalkyTalky is an Android application that speaks the address of nearby
locations as you pass them. It also provides more direct access to the
walking directions
component of Google Maps. With WalkyTalky installed, you can:
* Launch WalkyTalky to specify a destination,
* Either specify the destination by address, or pick from favorites or
recently visited locations,
* And in addition to spoken walking directions,
* Hear street addresses as you walk by.

These spoken updates, in conjunction with the walking directions that
are spoken by Google Maps help users navigate the physical world as
efficiently as
they navigate the Internet.

Intersection Explorer
Using this application, users can explore any neighborhood on Google
Maps via touch.
* Intersection Explorer starts off at the user's current location.
* One can change the start position by entering an address, to do
this, press menu and click on new location.
* Once the map has loaded, touching the screen speaks the streets at
the nearest intersection.
* Moving one's finger along a compass direction, and then tracing a
circle speaks each street at that intersection along with the
associated compass direction.
* Presence of streets is cued by a slight vibration as one traces the circle.
* Lifting up the finger when on a street moves in that direction to
the next intersection, speaks the distance moved, and finally speaks
the newly arrived-at
intersection.
Intersection Explorer sounds like a way to preview the landscape,
before you actually get there.

Both apps are free, and are in the Android Market now.

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Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport?

2010-10-13 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Hi Amar
Good that you have decided to learn signature.

However, I could not appreciate your following  remark about thumb impression:
This provision of considering persons with thumb impression as illiterate was 
enshrined in our constitution at the time of making, which is not wrong because 
it gives protections to rural masses, but makes no difference between the 
literate and illiterate person.
Will you Please quote the article of constitution in support of this contention?
Being a law student, I feel we should be able to distinguish between the 
constitution and other laws and statutes and use words accordingly.

Rajesh


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:35 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport?

Hello,
No urgency at all. I tried learning signing, using that scale which small
kids use, in which you have letters as blocks and there that much space
you need to move your pen and the letter is made. But again it requires hell
lot of practice and I didn't find this idea of learning shape that useful.
Then I also thought of an option to make one scale of your name itself so
just move the pen in those blocks, and you can sign that. But then it might
be not valid because what if someone steals that scale? Although legally I
think hand writing experts report can be obtained to make it valid in case
of any dispute. But don't know whether I am in right direction or not.
Can you give me any other idea for learning on how to sign?
Somebody also told that on Eyeway radio show there was a mention of some
card board, but he didn't know in detail as to what it was and from where to
get it.
I am totally blind by birth, no idea of shapes of letters, have both plastic
and aluminum signature guides.
I am not going on 15th now, won't be signing that illiteracy declaration for
sure, first of all I will give my 100% effort for learning signature. Now
there will be no otherwise kind of situation to this. If I want passport, I
will learn signature. That's it. By no chance I want to sign any such
illiteracy declaration.
I remember, when I went for opening my bank account, my manager very
politely said Don't mind, you are pursuing Law, so, why don't you learn
signing the form? I know you are educated, but still it is the thinking,
that if you put thumb impression, it means you are illiterate. Though I
just explained the problem that due to no vision many a times letters differ
bit.
This provision of considering persons with thumb impression as illiterate
was enshrined in our constitution at the time of making, which is not wrong
because it gives protections to rural masses, but makes no difference
between the literate and illiterate person.
I must appreciate CDSL's approach towards this, while opening demat account,
they give instructions to the depository participants to put a remark for we
VI as Person with visual impairment and thumb impression. This directly or
indirectly shows that they do make distinction between an illiterate and
literate person.
Anyways no doubts, the experience of all accessindians will make my task
easier. So, a kind request from all of you to please share your views on
learning signature on or off the list.
And thanks, for this good and positive approach.
Looking forward for ideas which may help me in my way.
Regards,
Amar Jain.
-Original Message-
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:37 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?

If you don't need passport urgently, then a suggestion: Why not learn
some kind of signature? It helps tremendasly when you apply for bank
accounts by using passport as a photo ID. Also, there are banks
insisting for signature if you happen to go abroad and try opening an
NRI account.

Vetri.

On 13/10/2010, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 Hi!
 I made my passport before 1 year approx.
 At that time I did not feeled any such application. Just I wrote LHTI i.e.
 left hand thumb impration under the every every thumb.
  - Original Message -
 From: Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?


 hi, unfortunately in our country if we are affixing thumb we have to
 get it attested by a notary there will be one declaration form and all
 the formalities required will be in the instructions of the physical
 form. the authorities insisted me for a gazetted attestation on the
 prescribed proforma and further insisted me to sign an illiterate
 declaration along with it. notary authorization is compulsion.

 hope it helps.

 On 10/12/10, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 I have filled up passport application online, and will be going to
 

Re: [AI] Project eyes blindness prevention in children

2010-10-14 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
What is this?
The Hindu A boy carrying a visually challenged couple after 'White Cane Day' 
celebration in Bhopal on monday. Madhya Pradesh

Even hindu can stoop to such levels of journalism?
Whether photo depicts boy carrying VI couple, or just leading them, please 
verify with sighted, please.
I am yet to read the full news...

Rajesh
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:43 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Project eyes blindness prevention in children

Project eyes blindness prevention in children
Afshan Yasmeen


The Hindu A boy carrying a visually challenged couple after 'White Cane Day' 
celebration in Bhopal on monday. Madhya Pradesh Federation of the Blinds 
distributed free 200 white canes to visually challenged persons in this 
programme. Photo by A. M. Faruqui


Did you know that most premature babies are at the risk of developing 
retinopathy of prematurity (ROP), a leading cause of preventable infant 
blindness?

Come January, premature babies born in the backward districts of north and 
central Karnataka will be screened for ROP soon after their birth and treated. 
This will be possible through a public-private-partnership between the Union 
Health Ministry and the Narayana Nethralaya under the National Rural Health 
Mission (NRHM).

Boon to rural areas
With childhood wellness, including right to sight, being one of the major 
components of NRHM, this partnership will be a boon to children in rural areas. 
The plan is to screen all premature babies born in rural areas and ensure that 
their defective vision is treated at the right time, S. Selva Kumar, State 
NRHM Mission Director told The Hindu on the eve of World Sight Day.

With the theme for this year's World Sight Day (October 14) being Countdown to 
2020: The Right to Sight, the Government is keen on expanding the project to 
other districts. The focus will be on tackling preventable blindness, he said.

Although ROP can be prevented if diagnosed and treated early, there is a severe 
paucity of ROP-trained ophthalmologists in the country. Under the partnership, 
experts from Narayana Nethralaya will train ophthalmologists and technicians to 
screen rural children and transfer the images to the hospital.

The defect will be diagnosed and if required the children will be brought to 
Bangalore for further treatment, said K. Bhujang Shetty, Chairman of Narayana 
Nethralaya.

The hospital has already conducted a pilot project titled Karnataka State 
Internet Assisted Diagnosis of Retinopathy of Prematurity (KIDROP) in the 
surrounding districts of Bangalore and Mysore.

Nearly 4,500 babies have been screened and 400 of them have been treated. The 
hospital has collaborated with i2i TeleSolutions to develop the telemedicine 
software.

All babies whose birth weight is less than 2,000 grams (2 kg) will be 
screened. While the Government will provide staff, vehicles and equipment, we 
will provide the logistics. There has been some delay in the procurement of 
equipment. But the project will start in January in the backward districts of 
northern and central Karnataka, Dr. Shetty said.

With the main causes of chronic blindness being glaucoma and diabetic 
retinopathy, the State-run Minto Ophthalmic Institute has started a 
comprehensive programme to screen, detect and treat these two eye diseases 
among the rural masses. If detected early, these diseases can be managed 
thereby protecting the infant's vision.

Hospital Medical Superintendent K.S. Sriprakash told The Hindu that this was in 
tune with the theme for this year's World Sight Day.

Although we have been conducting eye camps across the State to detect cataract 
and perform surgeries, we have recently started organising camps for diabetic 
retinopathy and glaucoma. Nearly 10,000 have been screened so far and 600 are 
getting further treatment, he said.

That apart, the hospital is also regularly conducting school screening 
programmes to detect vision defects in children.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Bangalore/article830234.ece

Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
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[AI] FW: Comments on disability law drafting subcommittee reports

2010-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


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From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:51 AM
To: 'Bhushan Punani'; Rajesh H. Asudani; Bhushan Punani; anand...@gmail.com; 
Jayshree raveendran; sdr...@gmail.com; L Govinda Rao; 
srikala.bhar...@gmail.com; Merry Barua; G. Syamala; rajive raturi; Uma Tuli; 
malabik...@yahoo.com; mita...@gmail.com; S.Y Kothari; s.khun...@nic.in; K.G 
Verma; chandan.mukher...@gmail.com; pi...@nic.in; Poonam Natrajan; 
rehab...@ndc.vsnl.net.in; Director IPH; k Ramakrishna; Rajiv Rajan; Bhargavi 
Davar; bvda...@gmail.com; torchbearer...@gmail.com; ak...@senseintindia.org; 
jpgadk...@gmail.com; Menon; as_naraya...@hotmail.com; Major HPS Ahluwalia; 
r.desir...@nic.in Dr Arbind Prasad; Sudha Kaul
Subject: RE: Comments on disability law drafting subcommittee reports

Madam/Sir
Blind graduates Forum of India,AN NGO wishes to submit following memorandum to 
the committee drafting the new disability law.
Hope it will be paid the desired attention.

Blind Graduates Forum of India
Memorandum to the Committee drafting new disability legislation



Title
We feel that the title of the act should be simple, meaningful and quotable 
easily. So, it is in fitness of things that the new act be called:
Rights of persons with disabilities act.

Definitions

Reasonable accommodation

While defining reasonable accommodation, the phrase where in a particular 
case should be omitted. We opine that provision of enabling environment which 
reasonable accommodation envisages should be made in the context of possibility 
and probability that persons with disabilities would be able to participate 
maximally in a given activity. So, even if said reasonable accommodation may be 
construed to impose a disproportionate burden in a particular case, it may be 
desirable to introduce it in the general context of persons with disabilities 
clarified above.
The phrase on equal basis with others used at various places is enigmatic. 
What is precisely meant by others is left to conjecture. And persons with 
disabilities are not only to be placed at par with non disabled as far as 
rights and dignity is concerned, but they are to be regarded human beings with 
certain impairments who have their own specific rights and needs also which may 
not be reflected by prescription of on equal basis with others. While 
defining reasonable accommodation, the phrase netted in a particular case is 
used. How this netting is to be done is a very vague and contentious issue. 
Instead of netting in a particular case, the proposition should be: ensure 
effective participation of persons with disabilities in a particular 
institution/establishment. In a particular case, it may be construed to place 
a disproportionate burden if expensive assistive technology is demanded by a 
blind employee. But if it is perceived as ensuring equality of opportunity to 
blind as a whole in an institution if assistive technology is installed there, 
it may not be so construed. It may happen that in a particular establishment, 
only a handful of persons with disabilities may actually work or study, and so, 
reasonable accommodation may be denied to them, as netting in their particular 
case may go against it, but not so, if it is thought to afford equality widely 
to disabled at large irrespective of actual number present at the time. The act 
does not lay down 40% as the minimum extent of disability. So, does it mean 
existence of conditions defined as disabilities is sufficient for all purposes 
and there is no need of quantifying them into percentages? If it is so, mention 
of severe disabilities as person with more than 80% disability clearly 
indicates at quantification in percentage form. How this percentage is to be 
arrived at medically is vague and subjective proposition. Severe and moderate 
and mild disabilities may be laid down clearly in terms of quantities like 
visual acuity between x: x and y:y is severe and that between z:z and a:a is 
moderate and so on. Benefits/entitlements also should be apportioned based on 
the mildness, moderateness or severety of disability, as it is clear that more 
often than not, severely disabled are left out of their rightful entitlements 
both on paper and in practice. Operational aspects can also be included in 
determining the extent of disability. Definition of inclusive environment is 
confined to education and does not lay down anything.
Disability
Twin definition generic and enumerative is welcome. However, some operational 
aspect also needs to be brought in it. It may be stipulated that:
when impairments reversible/irreversible in combination with prevalent 
infrastructure and/or attitudes, in any situation, lead to making a person more 
vulnerable than an average person without such impairment similarly situated, 
or invariably require human or mechanical assistance for a person to accomplish 
certain task effectively and without undue risk, such impairments may 
reasonably be regarded disabling

Re: [AI] how to receive email alerts on mobile in gmail

2010-10-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Dear Amar
Even after meticulously following all your suggested settings, my N82 gives the 
message: incoming mail server not found.
Any suggestions, please?
Rajesh

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:20 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how to receive email alerts on mobile in gmail

Dear Bhavesh Bhaiya,
If you have gprs activated, then you can configure gmail in your cell.
For that, go to your messaging option or if you have newer handset then look
for setup wizard in tools.
The configurations are as follows:
Mailbox type: Imap.
Incoming Mail Server: imap.gmail.com
Outgoing mail server: smtp.gmail.com
Once you have done with the normal email wizard, then go to connection
settings of your gmail.
There, make sure:
Under incoming settings you have to select:
security (ports) 'Ssl/TLS'.
Under outgoing settings you have to select:
Security (ports): start tls.
Where it says port default, change it to user defined and put 587 in the
text box.
Configure all rest of the settings such as user name and password etc.
Regards
Amar Jain.
-Original Message-
From: bhavesh
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] how to receive email alerts on mobile in gmail

Hi friends, can any one tell me how can we receive email alerts on mobile
using gmail, also tell me steps to do so, or provide me the link from which
i can get this information.



best regards,



bhavesh.



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Re: [AI] Need accessible games

2010-10-20 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I believe
www.audiogames.net
would be of use


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Madhav Chandra Das
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Need accessible games

Hi List Members,
I am an urgent need of accessible computer games for the visually
impaired users.
Besides gamesfortheblind.com is there any other website where i can
get these games.
Please help me.


--
Madhav Chandra Das

Every action ends with a reaction

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Re: [AI] Need accessible games

2010-10-20 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Qurious to know such computer games which are accessible to us but at the same 
time can be played with sighted users, particularly with children!


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www.gmagames.com and www.usagamesinteractive.com

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Hi List Members,
I am an urgent need of accessible computer games for the visually
impaired users.
Besides gamesfortheblind.com is there any other website where i can
get these games.
Please help me.


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[AI] FW: off topic: VSI series

2010-10-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


From: Rajesh Asudani [mailto:rasud...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:55 AM
To: vib-in...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Asudani, Rajesh
Subject: off topic: VSI series

My dear VIBIans

I am going off topic for the first time and hope  you would not mind.
Oxford university has been publishing very short introduction, VSI series of 
books since 1995 and has brought out about 250 books till date on various 
topics ranging from ancient history to quantum physics, to sexuality.
I am sharing a folder containing about half of them.
They are really useful to those desiring all round development.

As has been said about economists:

AN ECONOMIST WHO IS MERELY AN ECONOMIST IS A LIKE A POOR CONFINED  FISH WHO 
CANNOT BE OF ANY USE TO SOCIETY IN GENERAL, SAME HOLDS TRUE OF BANKERS.
 A banker who is merely a banker is like a frog living in its pothole croaking 
unintelligibly.

So, I believe we must widen our horizons and this series is really a great push 
towards such a goal.

Please have it from:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5366866/Oxford%20University%20-%20Very%20Short%20Introductions.zip

Yours truly

Rajesh


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[AI] Mathematical symbols with jaws

2010-10-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
I am queering for a friend of mine who is  not in touch with AI recently.
He is doing BCA and has books in soft copy with many mathematical symbols.
Jaws does not read them inteligibly.
He wishes to find out how we can read them, or
alternatively, where to have such books recorded from?

I am sure AI has persons with BCA and even MCA, so the answer must be on the 
way.

Thanking you on my and on his behalf



With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

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[AI] Visually impaired youth under the scanner

2010-10-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


Hindu other states orisa
Visually impaired youth under the scanner
Staff Reporter
BERHAMPUR: A visually impaired youth was found to be the mastermind behind a 
gang of young dacoits operating in the city.
This youth along with two of his associates was arrested by police in relation 
to the murder of a retired executive engineer Bipra Charan Padhi during a 
dacoity attempt in the Gandhi Nagar area of the city on October 16. The 
visually impaired gang leader was Jagannath Nahak. The other two arrested along 
with him were Narayan Mohanty and Suraj Kumar Pradhan alias Suresh. Another 
accused in this case of murder and dacoity, Sitaram Das is still absconding. 
All of them are in their 20s.
Speaking to newsmen here on Monday, Berhampur Superintendent of Police (SP) 
Shefeen Ahmed K. said this case was tough to crack as evidences left by the 
culprits was too less. Added to it the persons involved in the crime except the 
mastermind Jagannath had no past criminal record. A special squad had been 
formed under the SP to investigate the case.
The SP said this case again revealed the dangers of allowing persons of dubious 
background to guard houses during absence of owners. Accepting tenants without 
checking their identity allows shrewd criminals like Jagannath to operate their 
crime syndicate from posh areas like Gajapati Nagar in Berhampur. Sitaram and 
Narayan had been allowed by the deceased Mr. Padhi to guard his house while he 
was out in America along with his wife. Narayan was son of his acquaintance. 
But he did not know that he was also part of the dacoit gang run by Jagannath.
On October 16, these criminals had tried to commit a dacoity at Mr. Padhi's 
house. It is suspected that he could identify the miscreants, who preferred to 
kill him to avoid identification. Police have also seized the mobile phone and 
watch that had been taken away from the house of the victim.
Greatest revelation was Jagannath himself. He was a student of Khallikote 
Autonomous College who had stepped into world of crime few years back.
He has several cases pending against him in Polasara and Kavisuryanagar police 
stations. Two years back a bomb used by him blasted in his own hand. His eyes 
were damaged making him visually impaired.


With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert Frost

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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2010-10-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, I don't quite agree with this typical occidental stand, even though there 
is a lot a person can do to enhance one's own safety.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Swati Sinha
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)

Your safety is in your hands and totaly depends upon you. Nothing less
than this and nothing more than that.


On 10/28/10, dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear friend good luck in Delhi. This is very good city and safe for women
 and girls. besst colleges are Merandahouse Jesus and marry college hindu
 colege actually north campus is good for study. There are some good colleges
 in south campus also. like vankateshvaran colege.
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 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 AM
 Subject: [AI] (no subject)


 dear friends, i want to know something about delhi. is this city safe for
 women? especially for visually challenge women or college going girls?
 because next year i'm planning to go to delhi for post graduation. please
 tell me something about best colledges in delhi? i'm specializing in
 political science. i want to know about JAVAHARLAL NEHERU DELHI UNIVERSITY

 ABOUT THERE ENTRANCE EXAMS AND SO ON reguards goodbye.
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a plan for you. If you place your trust in Him, He will give you great
gifts. We don't always know what God's plans are for us. We just know
that His ways are not our ways, but His ways are always best.

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Re: [AI] tips required for using gps

2010-10-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Bhavesh
You can surely modify  the distance before which you wish to get the alert. 
Usually it is 200 meters.

If you wish to use some other aps like Groute, for finding the way to specific 
places, do write to me.


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Subject: [AI] tips required for using gps

HI friends! hope you are doing well. in my last mail, i asked you about nokia 
c5 and nokia e63, and i finally have perchased nokia c5.



i tell you what! it is worth perchasing. the only thing is, that it does not 
have  Wlam support. but, the other features, such as internal gps are very very 
useful.



i have started using loadstone, a satalite navigation software (open source) 
for gps.



i would encourage all of you, who can afford to pay at least RS 8000 to 
perchase this phone, please start using this software. you will be surprised by 
it's accuracy.



finally, i request all the gps experienced users to give me some tips.

as per my experience, it alerts you much before your check point.

please tell me how to make it more accurate.



besides this, any more tips will be grately appriciated.



with best regards,



bhavesh patel.



email:



bhavesh20pa...@rediffmail.com



skype:

hbavesh.patel499



mobile:



9594597588.
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Re: [AI] question

2010-10-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Such is state of affairs in sovereign socialist secular  democratic republic  
called India.
Approach relevant CBSE officials and point out their folly.
Next, go to SCD/CCPD, next go to court.

Hope problem will be solved much before that.


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of deepali waghmare
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:06 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] question

hello list members!
hope all are doing well.
one of my friends has got the letter from CBSC that he cannot appear
for the exams of 10th. and the reason is that he is partially blind.
what should he do?
with regards
Deepali
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if God answers your questions, he is increasing your faith; if he
delays, he is increasing your patience and if he does not, then, you
are able to handle all the criticle situations.

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[AI] Online educational tutorial videos: evolving domain

2010-11-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Online educational tutorial videos: evolving domain
Many free resources, accessible online, are available for free download also


The project, `Khan Academy on a Stick' that can be used to download videos on 
maths and science lectures is one of them.

A plethora of educational tutorial video sources continue to emerge on the Net. 
This edition of NetSpeak takes a re-look at this vibrant segment.
Net means many things to many people - for some it is a storehouse of 
information, for some others it is a communication medium and for some others 
it is a space of entertainment.
Whatever be your take on it, the power and significance of Net lies in its 
potential to alter certain age-old beliefs and views. For instance, consider 
the economist's concept of 'no free lunch'. The extent of free resources 
available on the Net challenges the edifice of this concept. Perhaps, someone 
may be paying at some level; but for the large majority of netizens these 
resources are available for free. This is much true of educational resources.
Many of these free resources are not only accessible online but are available 
for free download also - this means you can share and use them off-line. Khan 
Academy (http://www.khanacademy. org/), a wonderful educational resource, where 
one can find educational video tutorials on almost all topics taught at the 
school level (algebra, arithmetic, physics, biology, statistics and so on), is 
a good instance of this trend. If you wish to view the academy's tutorials 
off-line, you can download them through different means 
(http://www.khanacademy. org/downloads).
The project, 'Khan academy on a stick' (http://mujica.org/khan/) that can be 
used to download videos on Maths and Science lectures is one of them. If you 
wish to download only selected subjects, you may explore the archive at: 
http://www. archive.org/details/Khan Academy.
In this regard, you may also check out the search service 'Khan Instant' 
(http://www.khaninstant.com/) that enables a search of the Khanacademy database 
instantaneously.
This is a search service built along the lines of 'Google Instant', Google's 
new search interface. As soon as you start entering the search string, the 
service attempts to guess your search intention and begins displaying the 
results accordingly.
Before moving further, let me point out yet another 'Google Instant' inspired 
search service called ListandPlay (http://listandplay. com/). The service 
searches Youtube database in a smart way and helps you create custom playlists 
with videos pertaining to a specific topic or theme. Similar to other services, 
ListandPlay also predicts your search query the moment you start entering the 
search string and based on this guess it pushes the search output.
The service allows you to create a playlist of relevant videos too. So, if you 
wish to aggregate tutorial videos pertaining to a subject, ListandPlay could 
come in handy. For instance, to collect videos on the subject, say, learning 
English, just enter the string how to learn English' and you will immediately 
find several videos related to this theme. You can view each of them and add 
the relevant ones to the playlist.
'Google code university'
If you are an IT student or an IT professional keen to update skills and 
expertise in this arena, you should check out the site 'Google code university' 
(http://code.google. com/edu/), containing tutorials pertaining to computer 
science topics.
Tutorials on web programming and databases could be useful even for a novice.
The service also hosts video courses on many topics relating to web programming 
(http://code.google.com/edu /submissions/uwspr2007 _webprogramming/listing. 
html) and other allied subjects.
Spoken tutorial
Apart from free educational resources, many free/open-source packages and 
programmes that liberate/strengthen the educational infrastructure are in 
place- like the open-source statistical package 'R', the 
text-processing/type-setting language LaTex and the like. Though many of these 
packages are quite useful and can boost the efficiency of the pedagogic 
process, the academic fraternity is yet to adapt them fully. A possible reason 
could be lack of appropriate tutorials on such programmes. This makes the 
spoken tutorial project (http://spoken-tutorial.org/) quite relevant and 
timely. Here you will find several spoken tutorials on various open source 
software in English and other Indian regional languages. Tutorials on open 
source packages such as LaTex and Python (a programming language) can be 
accessed from this service. The LaTex tutorial study plan includes lessons such 
as 'LaTex installation', 'letter writing', 'report writing', 'Mathematical 
equations' and so on.
Encyclopedia of Life
If you are a student of life-science or someone keen to know more about the 
life of plants, animals and micro-organism, take a look at the newly launched 

[AI] FW: United Nations Enable Newsletter, October 2010

2010-11-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:09 AM
To: enab...@un.org
Subject: United Nations Enable Newsletter, October 2010


ENABLE NEWSLETTER
October 2010

The Enable Newsletter is prepared by the Secretariat for the Convention on
the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (SCRPD) at the United Nations
Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA). Input has been received
from UN offices, agencies, funds and programmes, as well as from civil
society. It is also available on-line at: http://www.un.org/disabilities.

In this issue:

   §  Status of the Convention
   §  Highlights
   §  Upcoming events
   §  Other news


STATUS OF THE CONVENTION (UNCRPD)

95 ratifications of the Convention
147 signatories to the Convention

Optional Protocol to the Convention

58 ratifications of the Optional Protocol
90 signatories to the Optional Protocol

Recent signatures and ratifications:

Sierra Leone ratified the Convention on 4 October 2010.

HIGHLIGHTS

IASG-UNDG Guidance Note on Disability for UN Country Teams
The United Nations Development Group (UNDG) endorsed the “Guidance Note on
including the Rights of Persons with Disabilities in UN programming at
Country Level” on 6 October 2010. The guidance note was developed by the
United Nations Inter-Agency Support Group for the Convention on the Rights
of Persons with Disabilities (IASG) to support UN country level engagement
in the implementation of the UNCRPD. The Guidance Note is intended to
facilitate the inclusion of disability issues in the common country
assessments (CCA) process through the design and implementation of the
United Nations Development Assistance Framework (UNDAF), as well as through
individual agencies in their areas of work.  More information: Guidance
note:
http://www.undg.org/docs/11534/Disability---Guidance-note-for-UN-Country-Teams.pdf
; Guidance note annexes:
http://www.undg.org/docs/11534/Disability---GN-Annexes.pdf. The published
version of the Guidance Note will be issued, shortly.

New draft resolution on realizing the MDGs
The Third Committee of the General Assembly deliberated and negotiated a
draft resolution on “Realizing the Millennium Development Goals for Persons
with Disabilities toward 2015 and beyond”, which will be presented to the
General Assembly for adoption, shortly. The resolution will work to promote
mainstreaming disability in the MDGs, encourage greater
disability-inclusive international cooperation and enable further
participation of persons with disabilities in development processes. The
resolution also urges Governments and the UN system to strengthen data
collection and statistics on disability. Furthermore, the resolution
requests the Secretary-General to improve accessibility and the inclusion
of persons with disability within the UN Secretariat. The final resolution
will be posted on the SCRPD website when adopted.

DESA – First meeting of the UN Secretariat-wide task team on accessibility
The UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) co-chaired the
first meeting of the Inter-Departmental Task Team on Accessibility along
with the Department of General Assembly and Conference Management.
Representatives from UN Secretariat offices with accessibility-related
functions met to discuss the development of a United Nations Secretariat
accessible to all: delegates, visitors, staff and others. The Team will
draft their Terms of Reference to further develop a coherent UN
Secretariat-wide accessibility policy, as well as consider provisions for
accessibility in the 2012-2013 UN budget-cycle.

DESA – Discussion on women with disabilities, peace and development
On 20 October 2010, the Secretariat for the Convention on the Rights of
Persons with Disabilities (SCRPD) of the UN Department of Economic and
Social Affairs (DESA) in collaboration with the Permanent Mission of Mexico
and the Permanent Mission of Liechtenstein, held a panel discussion at UN
Headquarters entitled “Our Forgotten Sisters: Women and Leadership in Peace
and Development”. The event commemorated the 10th anniversary of UN
Security Council Resolution 1325. The discussions highlighted the role of
women with disabilities in promoting peace and development, particularly in
post-conflict situations. Panelists included representatives from Blue Law
International, Human Rights Watch, Women’s Refugee Commission, the Global
Partnership for Disability and Development and the Office of the Special
Adviser to the Secretary-General on Gender Issues and Advancement of Women
(OSAGI). The speakers shared evocative stories to urge for the inclusion of
women with disabilities in reconstruction and peace-building efforts. More
information:
http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?navid=13pid=1514#20oct10_panel.


DESA – Increased collaboration on implementation of the UNCRPD
Representatives from the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs
(DESA) and the Organization of American States (OAS) 

Re: [AI] Discrimination between Blind and Low-Vision Candidates.

2010-11-04 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Even MSJE has not identified these posts for blind.
So, they have a readymade excuse for denying these to blind.
Though identification of posts is not an exhaustive  reckonor for recruitment 
even at present, we can hardly expect to achieve employment to blind at present 
even through judiciary.

In Maharashtra this has been going on for ages.
Here we have even all posts of lecturers identified only for low vision, no no, 
partially sighted, except music.

So, it is in fitness of things that such a contagion extends to national level.

I have seen category of partially blind indicated even in disabilities 
certificates in Maharashtra.

Sometimes, certificates, as in AP, mention that they are not valid for legal 
purposes.

I know I am deviating from thread, but pardon me, I am confused, I don't know 
where we are going!!





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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Discremination between Blind and Low-Vision Candidates.

Hello,

There was an advertisement in the Anandabazar Patrika, a leading Bengali daily, 
on November 2 asking for applications for about 1000 jobs in the South-Eastern 
Railway. There are several posts like fitters, machinists, telecom technicians, 
etc. which have been reserved for low-vision candidates. I know, there are 
several totally blind fitters and machinists in Lilua and Kharagpur Railway 
workshops. Still these posts have been earmarked for low-vision applicants 
only. What is most significant is that there is no post for totally blind 
candidates in this advertisement. According to the ad, it should be available at
www.rrbkolkata.org
You can check the web site for details. But the link is not working yet.

I am seriously worried if totally blind candidates are going to be considered 
at all for jobs in future. I am not against the low-vision people. At least, 
they are more wanted than we are; aren't they lucky? We want employment for 
all, for blind people, low-vision people and for sighted people. We belong to 
the same society.

Blind Persons' Association has appealed to the Railway Minister, Miss Mamata 
Banerjee, today. I have asked them to appeal to the Chief Commissioner on 
Disabilities. They have asked me to find out if any relevant documents such as 
court order are available. So, if someone has any document, pleas mail a copy 
to me or to bpain...@gmail.com


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 9433464329
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Re: [AI] Unjustice shared

2010-11-08 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Eknath, where is the corrigendum?
I have been apprehensive about IDBI vacancies right from beginning.



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ekinath ekinath
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:45 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Unjustice shared

Dear Friends,

I thought i should share this

IDBI has after publishing 96 positions for asst mgr level has
backtracked and through corrigendum scrapped all the postions under
the excuse of non-identified. Does it mean before publishing the add
IDBI did not check it properly?

Importantly this happend after i met them and submitted the
application to remove an arbitrary clause of 60% less scribe. Friends,
it might be co-incidental but certainly raises doubts in mind.

I do not have much time to raise the issue or else i would have fought
against the matter.


rgds


--

Innocence of Child is God Talking

Student of JBIMS, batch 2011.

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Re: [AI] Reading Printed content - Scan Read without a computer!

2010-11-14 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Good development, however, what is the cost?


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BarrierBreak Team
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Reading Printed content - Scan  Read without a computer!

Hi All,



Do check out a video of Optelec Clear Reader+, a scan and read product that
is the size of a transistor! You can see the Video at



http://www.slideshare.net/BarrierBreak/optelec-clearreader



You can get in touch with us at BarrierBreak to see a demo of the same in
Mumbai!



Regards

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[AI] FW: (VIB) NCERT Books

2010-11-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


Friends
Here is url for easy download of NCERT books from class 1 to 12, if anybody 
requires.

This is important as the  NCERT site itself at least textbooks download section 
which was too complicated, is now altogether out of service, and so, the 
earlier link dump also which I have provided on this list now cannot work.
So,  this mirror hosted by an individual:


http://ncertbooks.prashanthellina.com/

Thanks
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[AI] Test

2010-11-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
Please reply on my ID whether messages are reaching AI or not.
It seems a copy of my mails to AI is also going to Dharoti sharma at NCPEDP, I 
don't know why.



With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert Frost

(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Cell: 9420397185
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[AI] Tracing history with net

2010-11-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Tracing history with the Net
A tool that helps to visit old web pages with ease

It is difficult to study/analyse a phenomenon without understanding its 
historical context. Net presents several means by which we can enrich our 
historical understanding. This edition of NetSpeak deals with this theme and 
introduces a tool that helps us visit old web pages with ease.
Historical reflections help us gain insights on almost every phenomenon one can 
think of - technological developments, development of economic systems, change 
in human values over time and so on.
Unlike in the past, thanks to the Net, doing historical research is no more a 
difficult task. Services meant for doing historical research on different 
subjects/themes are in place. Smarthistory (http://smarthistory.org/) and 
ITHistory (http://ithistory.org/about/about.php) are some such sites worth a 
visit.
The historical values of old movies are indisputable. Besides offering clues on 
the technological changes, these movies take us back in time to comprehend 
changes in a society's speech structure/story themes/values and the like.
Many of these old movies are now in public domain, available at various on-line 
archives (http://www.openculture.com/freemoviesonline) for free viewing/ 
download.
Critical Past (http://www.criticalpast.com/), the video archival service that 
hosts tens of thousands of historic video clippings, is yet another wonderful 
resource for retrospection.
Yet another innovative service worth a mention in this context is HistoryPin, 
which attempts to collaboratively recreate the digital history of the world. 
The service allows netizens across the globe to upload images (of old street 
surroundings) and pin them on the corresponding current street locations on the 
Google maps imagery with necessary comments. Once the service is populated with 
sufficient content, it might help us compare the current surroundings of our 
favourite streets with that of its past. In addition, the HistoryPin's 
promoters offer some ideas that might help the teaching community 
(http://www.historypin. com/schools-toolkit/).
Historical routes
Like any other phenomena, Web also has its historical roots. A few years ago, 
most of the web sites, even the ones from big companies, were just a pack of 
static plain HTML pages with a couple of graphics interspersed here and there. 
From that stage the evolution of the Web is undoubtedly phenomenal.
With the aid of fast changing web technologies, web masters modify the design 
and appearance of their sites endlessly. It is always fun to compare how your 
favourite site looks now as against the same a few years ago. Going back to 
past web pages of your favourite web site is not only amusing but it could be 
enlightening as well. Accessing previous versions of a web page would provide 
us insights regarding the changes in Web technologies. This could also provide 
you an opportunity to discover the humble past of a high-profile web site.
As mentioned in these columns long ago ( The Hindu dated November 22, 2001- 
http://goo.gl/41ZQG), web archival services such as Wayback machine help us 
access old web pages with ease. To access via Wayback machine, you just need to 
enter its URL on the service's input box. In response to your request, the 
service presents a list of links to older versions of the page being queried.
Of course, Wayback machine is not the lone source from where one can find past 
versions of a web page. Sites such as Wikipedia automatically keep the older 
versions of each of its pages. For instance, if you wish to visit the old 
version of a Wikipedia page, you just need to click on its 'View History' 
button.
Now, if you wish to retrieve the old version of a web site at a specific moment 
in time, you have to go to an online archive and enter its web address. Here is 
a better and elegant solution - the Firefox extension provided by Memento 
(http://ww w.mementoweb.org/).
Once installed, the extension places a date-slider that can be used to select a 
specific date to view the current page in its past shape. To access an old 
version of the current page, just set the target date and the extension will in 
turn fetch the relevant copy of the web page from an appropriate web archive.
Also, if this past web page, retrieved from an archive, has got a link, memento 
will try to make sure that you access the older version of this link (instead 
of its current version), subject to its availability. If you wish to know how 
Memento does this, view this video recording of the presentation available at: 
http://goo.gl/xJCK8.
J. MURALI
He can be contacted at jmur...@gmail.com


With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert Frost

(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Cell: 9420397185
o: +91 

Re: [AI] New PwD act draft

2010-11-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Hi Prashant
I think the draft will be made public only on November 30 after committee's 
meeting on 26 or so,  so it may not be prudent  to discuss it publicly as yet.


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:15 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] New PwD act draft

The draft is out for public scrutiny. Get it at
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/new%20draft%20PwD%20act.doc


Thanks,
Prashant
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Re: [AI] scribe eligibility clarification

2010-11-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Dear Mukesh
Your supervisor seems to be confused about minimum and maximum.
Do rectify this confusion.




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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 3:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] scribe eligibility clarification

Hello,
As you might be aware that I am pursuing my further studies of PGDBA
(HRM) from symbiosis center of distance learning, pune for the year
2009. very recently, I am planning to appear for my examinations for
this course and hence, arranged the writer at my end to write my
paper.

I have applied for the approval to my university to take the facility
of taking writer along with mentioned of  the educational
qualifications for my writer.

My writer is 12th class pass. Upon receiving my said request, the
evaluation head of my university replied with the following comments:

Dear Student,
The details mentioned under have been noted.

Please note, the minimum qualification of helper/scribe should be
Graduate.  The under graduate person can not be a writer/helper for
student to attempt
Post Graudate Examinations.
Kindly do the needful accordingly.

In this regard, I would like to know that is there any provision that
if we are appearing for the post graduate diploma we must take the
writer eligible who has passed graduate and not the undergraduate.
Because,to my best knowledge, we must take the writer for our
examination juniour grade for which the examination to be appeared
for. I.e. The educational qualifications of the scribe should be one
grade lesser
than the stipulated minimum eligibility  criteria required for the post and
The  scribe should possess marks less than the candidate but in no case
more than 60%  in his own academic stream.

I have judged the required capabilities of my writer such as, fluency
to read the English language, literacy of computer skills etc to
appear as my writer and found it to be efficient.

Now, since I have received the aforesaid comments to my surprise from
my university, I would like to know that can the undergraduate
candidate is disqualified to write the paper of post graduate
examination for  blind candidate by any rules?

Your kind cooperation in this regard would be highly solicited.

Thanking you,



--
Regards,
Mukesh jain
Email:
mukesh.jai...@gmail.com
Skype: mukeshja
Mob: 09977165123

Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them
master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. 

Helen Keller

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[AI] Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

2010-11-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
What I had long apprehended has come to pass.
Now, it seems totally blind would not get job even in financial sector.
a corrigendum  and a recently issued advertisement of IDBI and a notification 
of LIC clearly stipulate that only low vision candidates, or those visually 
impaired having impairment between 40 and 70% may apply.
They cite government guidelines in their support.
I am afraid list of identified jobs does not identify bank officers/clerks jobs 
for blind, but does so for Low vision.
This is despite technology and all.

So, the only recourse available is to compel the government immediately to 
identify these jobs for blind also.
Anyway, identification is due in 2010.
Don't know whether government would wait for new law which does away with 
identification altogether.

Friends, come up with suggestions and activities to claim back our work.



With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert Frost

(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Cell: 9420397185
o: +91 712 2806846
R: 2591349



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[AI] FW: Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

2010-11-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Mind you, IDBI is the bank where Mr. K. Ramakrishna a totally blind person had 
rose up to general manager.
I am reminded of my high school which refused admission to a totally blind girl 
immediately after I had passed out in matriculation from there standing second 
in general merit list of the region.
Refusal was on the ground that she would not be able to write her notebooks by 
herself

Fantastic.

On a related note, I do not  find working draft of new disability law up to the 
mark and worth raising a whole moment to have  new statute in place...
More on it later..


From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 4:47 PM
To: 'vib-in...@googlegroups.com'; 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

Friends
What I had long apprehended has come to pass.
Now, it seems totally blind would not get job even in financial sector.
a corrigendum  and a recently issued advertisement of IDBI and a notification 
of LIC clearly stipulate that only low vision candidates, or those visually 
impaired having impairment between 40 and 70% may apply.
They cite government guidelines in their support.
I am afraid list of identified jobs does not identify bank officers/clerks jobs 
for blind, but does so for Low vision.
This is despite technology and all.

So, the only recourse available is to compel the government immediately to 
identify these jobs for blind also.
Anyway, identification is due in 2010.
Don't know whether government would wait for new law which does away with 
identification altogether.

Friends, come up with suggestions and activities to claim back our work.



With thanks and regards


I turned to speak to God
  About the world's despair;
  But to make bad matters worse
  I found God wasn't there.

--Robert Frost

(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Cell: 9420397185
o: +91 712 2806846
R: 2591349



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Re: [AI] Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

2010-11-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Perhaps it is due to such blunders that axes tend to fall.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of daulat gaur
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:11 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

Hello sir
i want to talks 5 for new worzen.
Thanks and regard
link dgaur...@gmail.com
numbers 9413613665
9783798618
daulat  raj
jai bharat

On 11/25/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Friends
 What I had long apprehended has come to pass.
 Now, it seems totally blind would not get job even in financial sector.
 a corrigendum  and a recently issued advertisement of IDBI and a
 notification of LIC clearly stipulate that only low vision candidates, or
 those visually impaired having impairment between 40 and 70% may apply.
 They cite government guidelines in their support.
 I am afraid list of identified jobs does not identify bank officers/clerks
 jobs for blind, but does so for Low vision.
 This is despite technology and all.

 So, the only recourse available is to compel the government immediately to
 identify these jobs for blind also.
 Anyway, identification is due in 2010.
 Don't know whether government would wait for new law which does away with
 identification altogether.

 Friends, come up with suggestions and activities to claim back our work.



 With thanks and regards


 I turned to speak to God
   About the world's despair;
   But to make bad matters worse
   I found God wasn't there.

 --Robert Frost

 (Rajesh Asudani)
 Assistant General Manager
 Reserve Bank of India
 Nagpur
 Cell: 9420397185
 o: +91 712 2806846
 R: 2591349


 
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Re: [AI] Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

2010-11-25 Thread Asudani, Rajesh

Dear Subhash Jee
Glad that you  would take up the matter.
I opine that we would have to change identification in the list itself. For 
this, government has to be targeted.
Institutions have merely followed the list of identified jobs, maybe somewhat 
late, as a result some blind have been actually recruited.

I am enclosing all the relevant ads.
Here are links also:
for IDBI Notification and corrigendum visit:
http://www.idbi.com/currentopenings.asp
for LIC notification visit:
http://www.licindia.in/pages/employment_news_notification.pdf
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We would surely take it up. Could u send the link to the advertisement in 
question off the list?
Thanks

Subhash C Vashishth
Advocate
Advocacy Committee, AICB
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Subject: Re: [AI] Axe falls on totally blind in financial sector recruitment

Dear Rajesh sir,

But other banks are still recruiting visually challenged people.  For
example, Central Bank of India which has notified jobs now,and
Oriental Bank of Commerce which has very recently notified jobs, have
not imposed any rules like this.  Is it a case where individual
organisations are taking their own decisions?

Coming to identified jobs, I remember enquiry clerks and some other
similar job being identified.  Don't they include banking industry?

Just for another reference, we have Amilesh Kumar who got recruited as
AAO in LIC very recently.

I think we should immediately draft a letter and send it to the
Finance and HRD ministries, not for an immediate solution, but just
for making them aware of the current happenings.

Is there any NGO interested in this?  I think AICB who trained many
employees of PNB officially would be the right organisation.  This
doesn't mean others should not take this up.



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On 11/25/10, daulat gaur dgaur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello sir
 i want to talks 5 for new worzen.
 Thanks and regard
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 9783798618
 daulat  raj
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 On 11/25/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Friends
 What I had long apprehended has come to pass.
 Now, it seems totally blind would not get job even in financial sector.
 a corrigendum  and a recently issued advertisement of IDBI and a
 notification of LIC clearly stipulate that only low vision candidates, or
 those visually impaired having impairment between 40 and 70% may apply.
 They cite government guidelines in their support.
 I am afraid list of identified jobs does not identify bank officers/clerks
 jobs for blind, but does so for Low vision.
 This is despite technology and all.

 So, the only recourse available is to compel the government immediately to
 identify these jobs for blind also.
 Anyway, identification is due in 2010.
 Don't know whether government would wait for new law which does away with
 identification altogether.

 Friends, come up with suggestions and activities to claim back our work.



 With thanks and regards


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   About the world's despair;
   But to make bad matters worse
   I found God wasn't there.

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