subject:"Re\: \[AFMUG\] OT\: Corona\-fu \(was UBNT stock\)"

Sorry, the cruise ship resulted in them changing it to aerosolized in 
propagation...


On 2/25/20 8:02 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


Recirculating air would not be a vector, as it's been established this 
virus is not airborne, except by physical droplets. It's all about 
what/who you touch or get over-spray from nearby coughs and sneezes.



bp


On 2/24/2020 7:57 PM, Robert wrote:

Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp


On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise 
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe 
case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs 
.1 percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But you keep telling 
yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid 
while the long storage food supplies are bought up.    ( check on 
Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the 
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine 
can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning 
to look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not 
most other places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to 
the wrong things  (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, 
and that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from 
the start.  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than 
seasonal flu.  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in 
countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems than China, 
but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand 
soap, and stay off cruise ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best 
way to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies 
go on fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a 
few thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who 
are being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that 
the number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of 
the 9/11 attacks shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it 
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then 
suddenly that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at
a major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be
a major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising
for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done with it,
it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be
hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our
economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

bp



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Recirculating air would not be a vector, as it's been established
  this virus is not airborne, except by physical droplets. It's all
  about what/who you touch or get over-spray from nearby coughs and
  sneezes.


bp



On 2/24/2020 7:57 PM, Robert wrote:


  
  Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent
recirculation...
  
  On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince
wrote:
  
  

A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp



On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert
  wrote:


  
  Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the
cruise ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea
and a severe case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate
_by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and
oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel
safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage
food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's
still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers
are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
can do.   
  
  On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince
wrote:
  
  

[TINHATOFF]
It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's
  beginning to look like the trench/squat toilets common in
  China (and not most other places) is the major disease
  vector.
Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO
  deaths.
Contrast this to the latest
US-only flu data, with 29 million infections and
  16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the
  wrong things  (so what's new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp



On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken
  Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
Experts are starting to say it’s
  time to prepare for a pandemic, and that containment
  didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start. 
  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal
  flu.  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in
  countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems
  than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks,
  thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic
  bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise
  ships.
 
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
 
 
From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
  stock)
 

   It seems that
America's enemies know that the best way to have
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump
rallies go on fully unimpeded. 
  
 
  
  
A kill rate of 2% seems small
  as statistic, but that's still a few thousand
  currently dead, including many medical staff, who
  are being mourned by their friends and families.
  It's likely that the number of people killed by
  coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks
  shortly.
  
  
 
  
  
Most frightening is that with
  its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or
  have infected millions or much more, then suddenly
  that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.
  
  
 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55
  PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  You dont think releasing
something as hyped up as kungflu at a major
public gathering, especially a trump rally
wouldnt be a major terror succes

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof

I wonder how this company feels about it:

http://www.covid.com/shop.aspx

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

Covid-19

On 2/25/20 6:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? 

 

As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. I've 
attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for diagnosing a 
"regular" sickness that I had.



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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





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Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:58:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Remember - we aren’t really testing here in the U. S. Right now. 

All you have to look at are pneumonia deaths - which are high this year. 
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Covid-19

On 2/25/20 6:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus?

As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. 
I've attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for 
diagnosing a "regular" sickness that I had.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

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*Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:58:27 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Remember - we aren’t really testing here in the U. S. Right now.

All you have to look at are pneumonia deaths - which are high this year.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Interesting contradiction there, as they say clean your hands after
touching the vent as it's one of the most contaminated articles on the
aircraft, but that's where you get the cleanest air.. H... I
guess turn it on while you aren't sitting under it to start?

On 2/25/20 5:15 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/4345235/why-you-should-always-keep-your-air-vent-nozzle-open-on-a-flight/

On 2/25/20 8:10 AM, Robert wrote:
Nope, wrong. Almost all designs use compression off one of the
engines that actually compresses/heats the air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization

I was wrong about 80% its 50% and the recirc is hepa filtered. Who
wants to change those filters?

On 2/25/20 3:03 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
This is correct. Aircraft is at most 10% recycled air. They have
HEPA filters for the recycled air.

Turning the nozzle on above you and blowing it over you actually
creates a “cone of safety” that blows bacteria and virus away from you.

On Feb 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I read that they don't really recirculate the air. They have an
intake at the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure
outside the plane is low, but forward motion of the plane
compresses it to a higher pressure and the valve stops it from
getting too high.

Sounds like it would be safest in first class ;)

On 2/24/2020 10:57 PM, Robert wrote:
Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent
recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a
severe case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_
of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and oranges. But you
keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe. Keep drinking
the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought
up. ( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out
). Let's see what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and
see what modern medicine can do.

On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's
beginning to look like the trench/squat toilets common in China
(and not most other places) is the major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention
to the wrong things (so what's new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a
pandemic, and that containment didn’t fail, containment was
hopeless from the start. More communicable than SARS, more
deadly than seasonal flu. Still remains to be seen how it
plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare
systems than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide. Masks,
thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.
Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Colin
Stanners

*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

It seems that America's enemies know that the best
way to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump
rallies go on fully unimpeded.

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a
few thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who
are being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely
that the number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass
that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled
it could infect or have infected millions or much more, then
suddenly that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at
a major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt
be a major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be
advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were
done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone
would still be hid out in their house listening to their
propaganda. Our economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard

Those all appear to just be the normal common cold coronaviruses. This one
would be COVID-2019 or something like that.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus?
>
> As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. I've
> attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for diagnosing a
> "regular" sickness that I had.
>
>
>
> -
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
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> Remember - we aren’t really testing here in the U. S. Right now.
>
> All you have to look at are pneumonia deaths - which are high this year.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett

What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? 


As I said earlier, they are testing for some strains of coronavirus. I've 
attached a screenshot of results of mine from January for diagnosing a 
"regular" sickness that I had. 




- 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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Remember - we aren’t really testing here in the U. S. Right now. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Hoppes

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/4345235/why-you-should-always-keep-your-air-vent-nozzle-open-on-a-flight/

On 2/25/20 8:10 AM, Robert wrote:
Nope, wrong. Almost all designs use compression off one of the
engines that actually compresses/heats the air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization

I was wrong about 80% its 50% and the recirc is hepa filtered. Who wants
to change those filters?

On 2/25/20 3:03 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
This is correct. Aircraft is at most 10% recycled air. They have HEPA
filters for the recycled air.

Turning the nozzle on above you and blowing it over you actually
creates a “cone of safety” that blows bacteria and virus away from you.

On Feb 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I read that they don't really recirculate the air. They have an
intake at the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure outside
the plane is low, but forward motion of the plane compresses it to a
higher pressure and the valve stops it from getting too high.

Sounds like it would be safest in first class ;)

On 2/24/2020 10:57 PM, Robert wrote:

Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe
case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs
.1 percent for flu is apples and oranges. But you keep telling
yourself what makes you feel safe. Keep drinking the koolaid
while the long storage food supplies are bought up. ( check on
Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ). Let's see what the
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
can do.

On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning
to look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not
most other places) is the major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

[/TINHATOFF]

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic,
and that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from
the start. More communicable than SARS, more deadly than
seasonal flu. Still remains to be seen how it plays out in
countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems than China,
but it’s gonna spread worldwide. Masks, thermometers and
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets. Buy lots of hand
soap, and stay off cruise ships.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

It seems that America's enemies know that the best
way to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump
rallies go on fully unimpeded.

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then
suddenly that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Nope, wrong.    Almost all designs use compression off one of the 
engines that actually compresses/heats the air.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization

I was wrong about 80% its 50% and the recirc is hepa filtered. Who wants 
to change those  filters?


On 2/25/20 3:03 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
This is correct. Aircraft is at most 10% recycled air. They have HEPA 
filters for the recycled air.


Turning the nozzle on above you and blowing it over you actually 
creates a “cone of safety” that blows bacteria and virus away from you.


On Feb 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I read that they don't really recirculate the air.  They have an 
intake at the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure outside 
the plane is low, but forward motion of the plane compresses it to a 
higher pressure and the valve stops it from getting too high.


Sounds like it would be safest in first class ;)

On 2/24/2020 10:57 PM, Robert wrote:

Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp


On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise 
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe 
case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs 
.1 percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But you keep telling 
yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid 
while the long storage food supplies are bought up.    ( check on 
Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the 
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine 
can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning 
to look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not 
most other places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to 
the wrong things  (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, 
and that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from 
the start.  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than 
seasonal flu.  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in 
countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems than China, 
but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand 
soap, and stay off cruise ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best 
way to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump 
rallies go on fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a 
few thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who 
are being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely 
that the number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass 
that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it 
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then 
suddenly that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at
a major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt
be a major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be
advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were
done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone
would still be hid out in their house listening to their
propaganda. Our economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Matt Hoppes

This is correct. Aircraft is at most 10% recycled air. They have HEPA filters 
for the recycled air. 

Turning the nozzle on above you and blowing it over you actually creates a 
“cone of safety” that blows bacteria and virus away from you. 

> On Feb 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> I read that they don't really recirculate the air.  They have an intake at 
> the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure outside the plane is low, 
> but forward motion of the plane compresses it to a higher pressure and the 
> valve stops it from getting too high. 
> 
> Sounds like it would be safest in first class ;)
> 
>> On 2/24/2020 10:57 PM, Robert wrote:
>> Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...
>> 
>>> On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
>>>> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm 
>>>> pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage 
>>>> of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is 
>>>> apples and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel 
>>>> safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are 
>>>> bought up.( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   
>>>> Let's see what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what 
>>>> modern medicine can do.   
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>> [TINHATOFF]
>>>>> 
>>>>> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look 
>>>>> like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) 
>>>>> is the major disease   vector.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data, with 29 million infections 
>>>>> and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  
>>>>> (so what's new about that?).
>>>>> 
>>>>> [/TINHATOFF]
>>>>> 
>>>>> bp
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and 
>>>>>> that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  
>>>>>> More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still 
>>>>>> remains to be seen how it plays out in   countries with 
>>>>>> better (and worse) healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna spread 
>>>>>> worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic 
>>>>>> bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
>>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to 
>>>>>> have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully 
>>>>>> unimpeded. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
>>>>>> thousand   currently dead, including many medical 
>>>>>> staff, who are being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely 
>>>>>> that the number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 
>>>>>> 9/11 attacks shortly.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could 
>>>>>> infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% 
>>>>>> dead becomes unimaginable.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungf

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett

I read that they don't really recirculate the air.  They have an intake 
at the front and a relief valve at the back. Pressure outside the plane 
is low, but forward motion of the plane compresses it to a higher 
pressure and the valve stops it from getting too high.


Sounds like it would be safest in first class ;)

On 2/24/2020 10:57 PM, Robert wrote:

Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp


On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise 
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe 
case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 
percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But you keep telling 
yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while 
the long storage food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon 
what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers 
are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to 
look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most 
other places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to 
the wrong things  (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, 
and that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from 
the start. More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal 
flu.  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in countries with 
better (and worse) healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna 
spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem 
to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise 
ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way 
to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go 
on fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are 
being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the 
number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 
9/11 attacks shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it 
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly 
that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a
major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a
major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for
the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done with it, it
could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid
out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy
would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Remember - we aren’t really testing here in the U. S. Right now. 

All you have to look at are pneumonia deaths - which are high this year. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Steve Jones

Thats a good point. Maybe my terror bioweapon isnt any good. Over 250,000
people travelled by air when this thing was unmonitored. If it were going
to have been effective, it would have been

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 9:58 PM Robert  wrote:

> Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...
>
> On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm
> pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of
> 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples
> and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.
> Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought
> up.( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see
> what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
> can do.
>
> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> [TINHATOFF]
>
> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look
> like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places)
> is the major disease vector.
>
> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
>
> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data
> <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million infections
> and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so
> what's new about that?).
>
> [/TINHATOFF]
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that
> containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More
> communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be
> seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare
> systems than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers
> and quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and
> stay off cruise ships.
>
>
>
> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
>  It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have
> America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully
> unimpeded. 
>
>
>
> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few
> thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being
> mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the number of
> people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.
>
>
>
> Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could
> infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead
> becomes unimaginable.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major
> public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror
> success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the
> time they were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone
> would still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our
> economy would crumble
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> As a terror weapon it would be perfect
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to
> be over 30%.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Ken Hohhof

Vaccine progress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/drugmaker-moderna-delivers-first-coronavirus-vaccine-for-human-testing-11582579099

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 9:57 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp

 

On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:

Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm 
pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of 20% 
and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and 
oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep 
drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought up.( 
check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the 
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.   

On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look like 
the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) is the 
major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm> , with 29 million infections and 
16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so what's 
new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp

 

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off 
cruise ships.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 


 

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by their 
friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

 

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or 
have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead becomes 
unimaginable.

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and 
MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done 
with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out 
in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

 

bp

 

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be 
over 30%.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Robert


Very similar to an Commercial airliner with 80 percent recirculation...

On 2/24/20 8:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp


On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise 
ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe 
case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 
percent for flu is apples and oranges. But you keep telling yourself 
what makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long 
storage food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's 
still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers are in 
S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to 
look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most 
other places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the 
wrong things  (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, 
and that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the 
start.  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu. 
Still remains to be seen how it plays out in countries with better 
(and worse) healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna spread 
worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be 
magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way 
to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on 
fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are 
being mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the 
number of people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 
9/11 attacks shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it 
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly 
that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a
major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a
major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for
the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done with it, it
could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid
out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy
would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Mike Hammett

and I was clear. 




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And? 

On 2/24/20 11:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> I don't know if it was for this particular strain of corona virus, but 
> when I was sick in January, I was tested for multiple strains of corona 
> virus. 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
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> -------------------- 
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"  
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
> *Sent: *Sunday, February 23, 2020 3:04:09 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) 
> 
> THAT WE KNOW OF. 
> 
> Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you? 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones  <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the 
> guy banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes 
>  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: 
> 
> Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in 
> the U. S. Yet. 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert  <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the 
> cruise ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea 
> and a severe case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate 
> _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and 
> oranges. But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel 
> safe. Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage 
> food supplies are bought up. ( check on Amazon what's 
> still available vs. sold out ). Let's see what the numbers 
> are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine 
> can do. 
> 
> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 
> 
> [TINHATOFF] 
> 
> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's 
> beginning to look like the trench/squat toilets common 
> in China (and not most other places) is the major 
> disease vector. 
> 
> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO 
> deaths. 
> 
> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
> <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 
> million infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are 
> paying attention to the wrong things (so what's new 
> about that?). 
> 
> [/TINHATOFF] 
> 
> bp 
>  
> 
> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 
> 
> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for 
> a pandemic, and that containment didn’t fail, 
> containment was hopeless from the start. More 
> communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal 
> flu. Still remains to be seen how it plays out in 
> countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
> than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide. Masks, 
> thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic 
> bullets. Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise 
> ships. 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> *From:* AF  
> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of 
> *Colin Stanners 
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM 
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT 
> stock) 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
>  It seems that America's enemies know 
> that the best way to have America's economy crumble 
> is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 
>  
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but 
> that's still a few thousand currently dead, 
> including many medical staff, who are being

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)


And?

On 2/24/20 11:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't know if it was for this particular strain of corona virus, but 
when I was sick in January, I was tested for multiple strains of corona 
virus.




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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Sunday, February 23, 2020 3:04:09 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

THAT WE KNOW OF.

Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you?

On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the
guy banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in
the U. S. Yet.

On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the
cruise ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea
and a severe case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate
_by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and
oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel
safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage
food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's
still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers
are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
can do.

On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's
beginning to look like the trench/squat toilets common
in China (and not most other places) is the major
disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO
deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29
million infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are
paying attention to the wrong things  (so what's new
about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for
a pandemic, and that containment didn’t fail,
containment was hopeless from the start.  More
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal
flu.  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in
countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks,
thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic
bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise
ships.

__ __


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

__ __

__ __

*From:* AF 
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
*Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
stock)

__ __

 It seems that America's enemies know
that the best way to have America's economy crumble
is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded.


__ __

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but
that's still a few thousand currently dead,
including many medical staff, who ar

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Mike Hammett

I don't know if it was for this particular strain of corona virus, but when I 
was sick in January, I was tested for multiple strains of corona virus. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 3:04:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) 



THAT WE KNOW OF. 


Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you? 

On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 





Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the guy 
banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw 


On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 





Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S. Yet. 

On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: 




Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm 
pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of 20% 
and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and 
oranges. But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe. Keep drinking 
the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought up. ( check on 
Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ). Let's see what the numbers are in 
S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do. 


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 



[TINHATOFF] 
It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look like 
the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) is the 
major disease vector. 
Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths. 
Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data , with 29 million infections and 
16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things (so what's 
new about that?). 

[/TINHATOFF] 
bp
 
On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 




Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start. More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu. Still remains to be seen 
how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems than 
China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide. Masks, thermometers and quarantine 
don’t seem to be magic bullets. Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise 
ships. 

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy 


From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) 


 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 
 



A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by their 
friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly. 



Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or 
have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead becomes 
unimaginable. 




On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and 
MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done 
with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out 
in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble 



On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh. 
bp  

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



As a terror weapon it would be perfect 



On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be 
over 30%. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
A cruise ship is like a 5,000 seat petri dish.

bp



On 2/23/2020 11:05 AM, Robert wrote:


  
  Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the
cruise ship, I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and
a severe case percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by
WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But
you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep
drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are
bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold
out ).   Let's see what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday.
and see what modern medicine can do.   
  
  On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince
wrote:
  
  

[TINHATOFF]
It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's
  beginning to look like the trench/squat toilets common in
  China (and not most other places) is the major disease vector.
Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO
  deaths.
Contrast this to the latest
US-only flu data, with 29 million infections and 16,000
  deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things 
  (so what's new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp



On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Experts are starting to say it’s time
  to prepare for a pandemic, and that containment didn’t
  fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More
  communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu. 
  Still remains to be seen how it plays out in countries
  with better (and worse) healthcare systems than China, but
  it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and
  quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of
  hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.
 
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
 
 
From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
 

   It seems that
America's enemies know that the best way to have
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go
on fully unimpeded. 
  
 
  
  
A kill rate of 2% seems small as
  statistic, but that's still a few thousand currently
  dead, including many medical staff, who are being
  mourned by their friends and families. It's likely
  that the number of people killed by coronavirus will
  surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.
  
  
 
  
  
Most frightening is that with its
  virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or have
  infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2%
  dead becomes unimaginable.
  
  
 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM
  Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  You dont think releasing
something as hyped up as kungflu at a major
public gathering, especially a trump rally
wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and MSNBC
would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By
the time they were done with it, it could have
killed zero people, and everyone would still be
hid out in their house listening to their
propaganda. Our economy would crumble

 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14
  PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
   
  bp
  
   
  
On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM,
  Steve

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-24 Thread Adam Moffett

There's nothing wrong with being prepared for disasters.  There's 
nothing wrong with a calm and measured response either.  The two aren't 
even mutually exclusive.




On 2/23/2020 2:05 PM, Robert wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, 
I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case 
percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 
percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself 
what makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long 
storage food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's still 
available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers are in S. Korea 
NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to 
look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most 
other places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the 
wrong things (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and 
that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the 
start.  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu. 
Still remains to be seen how it plays out in countries with better 
(and worse) healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna spread 
worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be 
magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way 
to have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on 
fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being 
mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the number 
of people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 
attacks shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it 
could infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly 
that 2% dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a
major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a
major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the
terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done with it, it could
have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out in
their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

bp



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
I am way over 60. Almost a septuagenarian. 

You forgot baby shark 

do do dee do do
bp



On 2/23/2020 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I love the people who say it’s no big deal
  because it mostly kills people over 60.  Have things
  progressed from “OK Boomer” to “Curl up and die Boomer”?
 
Does that mean we need to vote for Mayor
  Pete because he’s the only candidate young enough to survive
  the culling of the herd?  It’ll be just Pete, baby Groot, baby
  Yoda, and baby Mr. Peanut left standing.
 
Yes, I’m over 60.  Not as old as Bernie,
  Biden, Bloomberg, or Trump though.  Or most of Congress. 
  Trump will be OK, isn’t he supposed to be a germaphobe? 
  Probably already washing his hands 20 times a today.  Which is
  recommended for both seasonal and Wuhan flu.
 
Cough … cough … cough
 

  
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Bill
  Prince
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:23 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
  

 
I lost my tin foil hat when I took my shower this morning. I
  ran around in a panic for almost 20 minutes until I found it.
{cough} ... {cough} ... {cough}
 
bp

 

  On 2/23/2020 1:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
wrote:


  

  
And here I
though my cough was from the black lung...
  
  

  
 
  
  

  From:
  Matt Hoppes 


  Sent:
  Sunday, February 23, 2020 2:04 PM


  To:
  AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 


  Subject:
  Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

  


   

  
  

  THAT WE KNOW
  OF. 


   


  Can’t have
  infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can
  you?


  
  On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:


  

  Its had
  over a month in the us, still zero
  transmissions outside the guy banging his
  infected wife... theyre both home and virus
  free now btw


   


  
On Sun,
Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
  
  

  
Exactly.
Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had
much time in the U. S. Yet. 
  
  

On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:
  
  

  Hmmm,
I don't think they used trench/squat
toilets on the cruise ship, I'm
pretty sure they don't use them in
S. Korea and a severe case
percentage of 20% and confirmed
death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1
percent for flu is apples and
oranges.   But you keep telling
yourself what makes you feel safe.  
Keep drinking the koolaid while the
long sto

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Steve Jones

Rotflmao"that we know of" hahaha

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 7:08 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I love the people who say it’s no big deal because it mostly kills people
> over 60.  Have things progressed from “OK Boomer” to “Curl up and die
> Boomer”?
>
>
>
> Does that mean we need to vote for Mayor Pete because he’s the only
> candidate young enough to survive the culling of the herd?  It’ll be just
> Pete, baby Groot, baby Yoda, and baby Mr. Peanut left standing.
>
>
>
> Yes, I’m over 60.  Not as old as Bernie, Biden, Bloomberg, or Trump
> though.  Or most of Congress.  Trump will be OK, isn’t he supposed to be a
> germaphobe?  Probably already washing his hands 20 times a today.  Which is
> recommended for both seasonal and Wuhan flu.
>
>
>
> Cough … cough … cough
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:23 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
> I lost my tin foil hat when I took my shower this morning. I ran around in
> a panic for almost 20 minutes until I found it.
>
> {cough} ... {cough} ... {cough}
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 2/23/2020 1:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> And here I though my cough was from the black lung...
>
>
>
> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 2:04 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
> THAT WE KNOW OF.
>
>
>
> Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you?
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the guy
> banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S.
> Yet.
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm
> pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of
> 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples
> and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.
> Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought
> up.( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see
> what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
> can do.
>
> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> [TINHATOFF]
>
> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look
> like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places)
> is the major disease vector.
>
> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
>
> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data
> <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million infections
> and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so
> what's new about that?).
>
> [/TINHATOFF]
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that
> containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More
> communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be
> seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare
> systems than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers
> and quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and
> stay off cruise ships.
>
>
>
> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
>  It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have
> America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully
> unimpeded. 
>
>
>
> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few
> thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being
> mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the number of
> people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.
>
>
>
> Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could
> infect or have infected millions or much

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof

I love the people who say it’s no big deal because it mostly kills people over 
60.  Have things progressed from “OK Boomer” to “Curl up and die Boomer”?

 

Does that mean we need to vote for Mayor Pete because he’s the only candidate 
young enough to survive the culling of the herd?  It’ll be just Pete, baby 
Groot, baby Yoda, and baby Mr. Peanut left standing.

 

Yes, I’m over 60.  Not as old as Bernie, Biden, Bloomberg, or Trump though.  Or 
most of Congress.  Trump will be OK, isn’t he supposed to be a germaphobe?  
Probably already washing his hands 20 times a today.  Which is recommended for 
both seasonal and Wuhan flu.

 

Cough … cough … cough

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:23 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

I lost my tin foil hat when I took my shower this morning. I ran around in a 
panic for almost 20 minutes until I found it.

{cough} ... {cough} ... {cough}

 

bp

 

On 2/23/2020 1:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

And here I though my cough was from the black lung...

 

From: Matt Hoppes 

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 2:04 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

THAT WE KNOW OF. 

 

Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you?


On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the guy 
banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw

 

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S. Yet. 


On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm 
pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of 20% 
and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and 
oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep 
drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought up.( 
check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the 
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.   

On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look like 
the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) is the 
major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm> , with 29 million infections and 
16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so what's 
new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp

 

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off 
cruise ships.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 


 

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by their 
friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

 

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or 
have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead becomes 
unimaginable.

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and 
MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done 
with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out 
in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
I lost my tin foil hat when I took my shower this morning. I ran
  around in a panic for almost 20 minutes until I found it.
{cough} ... {cough} ... {cough}


bp



On 2/23/2020 1:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  And here I though my cough was from the black lung...
  

   
  
From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 2:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
  stock)
  

 
  
  
THAT WE KNOW OF. 
 
Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing
  for them, now can you?

  On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  


  
Its had over a month in the us, still zero
  transmissions outside the guy banging his infected
  wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw
 

  On Sun, Feb 23,
2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
  
  

  Exactly. Give it a few more weeks.
It hasn’t had much time in the U. S. Yet. 
  
On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:

  
  
Hmmm, I don't think they used
trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm
pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea
and a severe case percentage of 20% and
confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1
percent for flu is apples and oranges.   But
you keep telling yourself what makes you
feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while
the long storage food supplies are bought
up.    ( check on Amazon what's still
available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what
the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and
see what modern medicine can do.   
  
  On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
  
  
[TINHATOFF]
It still after several weeks looks way
  overblown. It's beginning to look like the
  trench/squat toilets common in China (and
  not most other places) is the major
  disease vector.
Total cases in the US is only 35
  individuals, and ZERO deaths.
Contrast this to the latest US-only
flu data, with 29 million infections
  and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying
  attention to the wrong things  (so what's
  new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp



On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
Experts are
  starting to say it’s time to prepare
  for a pandemic, and that containment
  didn’t fail, containment was hopeless
  from the start.  More communicable
  than SARS, more deadly than seasonal
  flu.  Still remains to be seen how it
  plays out in countries with better
  (and worse) healthcare systems than
  China, but it’s gonna spread
  worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and
  quarantine don’t seem to be magic
  bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and
  stay off cruise ships.
 
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/co

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread chuck

And here I though my cough was from the black lung...

From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 2:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

THAT WE KNOW OF. 

Can’t have infections if you aren’t testing for them, now can you?

On Feb 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:

  Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the guy 
banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw

  On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S. 
Yet. 

On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert  wrote:

  Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, 
I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of 
20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples and 
oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep 
drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought up.( 
check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the 
numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.   

  On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to 
look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) 
is the major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data, with 29 million 
infections and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong 
things  (so what's new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and 
that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off 
cruise ships.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

   It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to 
have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully 
unimpeded. 

  A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by 
their friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

  Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could 
infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead 
becomes unimaginable.

  On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a 
major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror 
success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the 
time they were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone 
would still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our 
economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  
wrote:

  Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  
wrote:

  Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill 
rate needs to be over 30%.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Steve Jones

Its had over a month in the us, still zero transmissions outside the guy
banging his infected wife... theyre both home and virus free now btw

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 1:24 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S.
> Yet.
>
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm
> pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of
> 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples
> and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.
> Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought
> up.( check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see
> what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine
> can do.
>
> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> [TINHATOFF]
>
> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look
> like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places)
> is the major disease vector.
>
> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
>
> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data
> <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million infections
> and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so
> what's new about that?).
>
> [/TINHATOFF]
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that
> containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More
> communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be
> seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare
> systems than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers
> and quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and
> stay off cruise ships.
>
>
>
> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
>  It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have
> America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully
> unimpeded. 
>
>
>
> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few
> thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being
> mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the number of
> people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.
>
>
>
> Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could
> infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead
> becomes unimaginable.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major
> public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror
> success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the
> time they were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone
> would still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our
> economy would crumble
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> As a terror weapon it would be perfect
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to
> be over 30%.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Matt Hoppes

Exactly. Give it a few more weeks. It hasn’t had much time in the U. S. Yet. 

> On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, I'm 
> pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case percentage of 
> 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent for flu is apples 
> and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what makes you feel safe.   Keep 
> drinking the koolaid while the long storage food supplies are bought up.( 
> check on Amazon what's still available vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the   
> numbers are in S. Korea NEXT Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do. 
>   
> 
>> On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> [TINHATOFF]
>> 
>> It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look 
>> like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) is 
>> the major disease vector.
>> 
>> Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
>> 
>> Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data, with 29 million infections and 
>> 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so 
>> what's new about that?).
>> 
>> [/TINHATOFF]
>> 
>> bp
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
>>> containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
>>> communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
>>> seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare 
>>> systems than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers 
>>> and quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and 
>>> stay off cruise ships.
>>>  
>>> https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>  
>>>  It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
>>> America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully 
>>> unimpeded. 
>>>  
>>> A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
>>> currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by 
>>> their friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
>>> coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.
>>>  
>>> Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could 
>>> infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead 
>>> becomes unimaginable.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones  
>>> wrote:
>>> You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
>>> gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN 
>>> and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they 
>>> were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would 
>>> still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy 
>>> would crumble
>>>  
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> As a terror weapon it would be perfect
>>>  
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to 
>>> be over 30%.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Robert

Hmmm, I don't think they used trench/squat toilets on the cruise ship, 
I'm pretty sure they don't use them in S. Korea and a severe case 
percentage of 20% and confirmed death rate _by WHO_ of 2% vs .1 percent 
for flu is apples and oranges.   But you keep telling yourself what 
makes you feel safe.   Keep drinking the koolaid while the long storage 
food supplies are bought up.    ( check on Amazon what's still available 
vs. sold out ).   Let's see what the numbers are in S. Korea NEXT 
Sunday. and see what modern medicine can do.


On 2/23/20 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to 
look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other 
places) is the major disease vector.


Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm>, with 29 million infections 
and 16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong 
things  (so what's new about that?).


[/TINHATOFF]

bp


On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and 
that containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the 
start.  More communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  
Still remains to be seen how it plays out in countries with better 
(and worse) healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna spread 
worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to be magic 
bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise ships.


https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to 
have America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on 
fully unimpeded. 


A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few 
thousand currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being 
mourned by their friends and families. It's likely that the number of 
people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks 
shortly.


Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could 
infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% 
dead becomes unimaginable.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a
major public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a
major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the
terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done with it, it could
have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out in
their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp



On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a
bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

bp



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof

“So far, so good.”

 

- Steve McQueen character in The Magnificent Seven

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:19 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

[TINHATOFF]

It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning to look like 
the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not most other places) is the 
major disease vector.

Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.

Contrast this to the latest US-only flu data 
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm> , with 29 million infections and 
16,000 deaths. I think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so what's 
new about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp

 

On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off 
cruise ships.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 


 

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by their 
friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

 

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or 
have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead becomes 
unimaginable.

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and 
MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done 
with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out 
in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

 

bp

 

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be 
over 30%.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
[TINHATOFF]
It still after several weeks looks way overblown. It's beginning
  to look like the trench/squat toilets common in China (and not
  most other places) is the major disease vector.
Total cases in the US is only 35 individuals, and ZERO deaths.
Contrast this to the latest US-only
flu data, with 29 million infections and 16,000 deaths. I
  think we are paying attention to the wrong things  (so what's new
  about that?).

[/TINHATOFF]

bp



On 2/23/2020 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
Experts are starting to say it’s time to
  prepare for a pandemic, and that containment didn’t fail,
  containment was hopeless from the start.  More communicable
  than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be
  seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse)
  healthcare systems than China, but it’s gonna spread
  worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and quarantine don’t seem to
  be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off cruise
  ships.
 
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy
 
 
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Colin
  Stanners
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
 

   It seems that America's
enemies know that the best way to have America's economy
crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded.

  
 
  
  
A kill rate of 2% seems small as
  statistic, but that's still a few thousand currently dead,
  including many medical staff, who are being mourned by
  their friends and families. It's likely that the number of
  people killed by coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11
  attacks shortly.
  
  
 
  
  
Most frightening is that with its
  virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or have
  infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead
  becomes unimaginable.
  
  
 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM
  Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  You dont think releasing
something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a
major terror success? CNN and MSNBC would be
advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time
they were done with it, it could have killed zero
people, and everyone would still be hid out in their
house listening to their propaganda. Our economy
would crumble

 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM
  Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
   
  bp
  
   
  
On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve
  Jones wrote:
  
  

  As a terror weapon it
would be perfect

 

  
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020,
  8:11 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  Kill rate is far too low to be
considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs
to be over 30%.
   
  bp
  
   

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof

Experts are starting to say it’s time to prepare for a pandemic, and that 
containment didn’t fail, containment was hopeless from the start.  More 
communicable than SARS, more deadly than seasonal flu.  Still remains to be 
seen how it plays out in countries with better (and worse) healthcare systems 
than China, but it’s gonna spread worldwide.  Masks, thermometers and 
quarantine don’t seem to be magic bullets.  Buy lots of hand soap, and stay off 
cruise ships.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/23/21149327/coronavirus-pandemic-meaning-italy

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have 
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully unimpeded. 


 

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand 
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by their 
friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by 
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

 

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could infect or 
have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead becomes 
unimaginable.

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public 
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN and 
MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they were done 
with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would still be hid out 
in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy would crumble

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

 

bp

 

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to be 
over 30%.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Colin Stanners

 It seems that America's enemies know that the best way to have
America's economy crumble is to let the Trump rallies go on fully
unimpeded. 

A kill rate of 2% seems small as statistic, but that's still a few thousand
currently dead, including many medical staff, who are being mourned by
their friends and families. It's likely that the number of people killed by
coronavirus will surpass that of the 9/11 attacks shortly.

Most frightening is that with its virulence, if uncontrolled it could
infect or have infected millions or much more, then suddenly that 2% dead
becomes unimaginable.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major
> public gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror
> success? CNN and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the
> time they were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone
> would still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our
> economy would crumble
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> As a terror weapon it would be perfect
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs
>>> to be over 30%.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Steve Jones

You dont think releasing something as hyped up as kungflu at a major public
gathering, especially a trump rally wouldnt be a major terror success? CNN
and MSNBC would be advertising for the terrorists 24/7. By the time they
were done with it, it could have killed zero people, and everyone would
still be hid out in their house listening to their propaganda. Our economy
would crumble

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> As a terror weapon it would be perfect
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs
>> to be over 30%.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/22/2020 3:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were trying to say that too, saing
>> itay be transmittable by sex for 6 months blah blah blah.
>> South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats a religious group, which means a
>> lot of proximity to each other and well dispersed amongst the population.
>> Churches would be ideal places to unleash bioweapons, gets people from all
>> walks of life congregated and better for spread.
>> There mad a medical at the trump rally yesterday. I was thinking thats a
>> perfect place to contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all
>> over the country and comingle then disperse everywhere into every caste and
>> all types of neighborhoods and employers
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 12:33 PM Robert  wrote:
>>
>>> And latest from China is that people "cured" may still spread infection,
>>> but there is a good chance that the results may be from bad testing that
>>> they are "cured"...
>>>
>>> On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> CDC briefing from yesterday:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF   *On
>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good to hear.
>>>
>>> For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still
>>> probably the best place to be in cases like this
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The canary is ok at this time...
>>>
>>> On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>> > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
>>> > actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not
>>> an
>>> > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
>>> >
>>> > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the
>>> >> first time and then it's all over the second time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>>> >>
>>> >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
>>> >> this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or
>>> so,
>>> >> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and
>>> >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the
>>> second
>>> >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with
>>> >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
>>> >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
>>> >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
>>> >>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> >>>> whats the canary status?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert >> >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Bill Prince

Not for me. So far it has mostly been meh.

bp

On 2/22/2020 6:48 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:

  As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM
  Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon.
  Kill rate needs to be over 30%.

bp

On 2/22/2020 3:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were
trying to say that too, saing itay be transmittable by
sex for 6 months blah blah blah.
South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats
  a religious group, which means a lot of proximity to
  each other and well dispersed amongst the population.
  Churches would be ideal places to unleash bioweapons,
  gets people from all walks of life congregated and
  better for spread.
There mad a medical at the trump rally
  yesterday. I was thinking thats a perfect place to
  contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all
  over the country and comingle then disperse everywhere
  into every caste and all types of neighborhoods and
  employers

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020,
  12:33 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com>
  wrote:

   And latest from China is that people
  "cured" may still spread infection, but there is a
  good chance that the results may be from bad
  testing that they are "cured"...

On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

CDC briefing from
  yesterday:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html

From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was
  UBNT stock)

  Good to hear.

For all the complaints
  about our healthcare system, the US is
  still probably the best place to be in
  cases like this

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020,
  6:23 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
  wrote:

The canary is ok at
  this time...

  On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews
  wrote:
  > The pathology that I had seen talked
  about it causing heart damage 
  > actually.   The second infection
  triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an 
  > attack ) from the by products
  introduced in the first infection.
  > 
  > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes
  wrote:
  >> I have seen that as well...
  suspecting that the lungs get damaged the

  >> first time and then it's all over
  the second time.
  >>
  >> I'm not sure what you do about
  that?
  >>
  >> This could explain *tin foil hat*
  why China is going so crazy with 
  >> this.    Suppose for a moment
  that the virus was out in October or so, 
  >> and a first wave went around.  IF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Steve Jones

As a terror weapon it would be perfect

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 8:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate needs to
> be over 30%.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/22/2020 3:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were trying to say that too, saing
> itay be transmittable by sex for 6 months blah blah blah.
> South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats a religious group, which means a
> lot of proximity to each other and well dispersed amongst the population.
> Churches would be ideal places to unleash bioweapons, gets people from all
> walks of life congregated and better for spread.
> There mad a medical at the trump rally yesterday. I was thinking thats a
> perfect place to contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all
> over the country and comingle then disperse everywhere into every caste and
> all types of neighborhoods and employers
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 12:33 PM Robert  wrote:
>
>> And latest from China is that people "cured" may still spread infection,
>> but there is a good chance that the results may be from bad testing that
>> they are "cured"...
>>
>> On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> CDC briefing from yesterday:
>>
>>
>> https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to hear.
>>
>> For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still
>> probably the best place to be in cases like this
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The canary is ok at this time...
>>
>> On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
>> > actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not
>> an
>> > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
>> >
>> > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the
>> >> first time and then it's all over the second time.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>> >>
>> >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
>> >> this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so,
>> >> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and
>> >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second
>> >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>> >>
>> >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>> >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with
>> >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
>> >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
>> >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
>> >>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> >>>> whats the canary status?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert > >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
>> >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
>> >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
>> >>>> the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
>> >>>>> mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>> >>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Bill Prince

Kill rate is far too low to be considered a bio-weapon. Kill rate
  needs to be over 30%.

bp

On 2/22/2020 3:04 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:

  Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were trying
to say that too, saing itay be transmittable by sex for 6 months
blah blah blah.
South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats a
  religious group, which means a lot of proximity to each other
  and well dispersed amongst the population. Churches would be
  ideal places to unleash bioweapons, gets people from all walks
  of life congregated and better for spread.
There mad a medical at the trump rally
  yesterday. I was thinking thats a perfect place to
  contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all over
  the country and comingle then disperse everywhere into every
  caste and all types of neighborhoods and employers

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 12:33 PM
  Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

   And latest from China is that people "cured" may
  still spread infection, but there is a good chance that
  the results may be from bad testing that they are
  "cured"...

On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

CDC briefing from yesterday:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html

From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
  stock)

  Good to hear.

For all the complaints about
  our healthcare system, the US is still probably
  the best place to be in cases like this

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM
  Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
  wrote:

The canary is ok at this
  time...

  On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
  > The pathology that I had seen talked about it
  causing heart damage 
  > actually.   The second infection triggers
  fatal heart reactions ( not an 
  > attack ) from the by products introduced in
  the first infection.
  > 
  > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
  >> I have seen that as well... suspecting
  that the lungs get damaged the 
  >> first time and then it's all over the
  second time.
  >>
  >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
  >>
  >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why
  China is going so crazy with 
  >> this.    Suppose for a moment that the
  virus was out in October or so, 
  >> and a first wave went around.  IF this
  was a manufactured virus and 
  >> China knows what it does, then when it
  started going around the second 
  >> time they knew what the outcome would be
  if it wasn't stopped.
  >>
  >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
  >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll
  text...  Kinda figured with 
  >>> another 40 coming stateside from the
  cruise ship the gig is up... 
  >>> There is speculation that immunity is
  not a given after getting 
  >>> corona-fu and the second time you get
  it is what is causing the 
  >>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
  >>>
  >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:
  >>>> whats the canary status?
  >>>>
  >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Steve Jones

Remember the tail end of ebola.. they were trying to say that too, saing
itay be transmittable by sex for 6 months blah blah blah.
South koreas outbreak comcerns me, thats a religious group, which means a
lot of proximity to each other and well dispersed amongst the population.
Churches would be ideal places to unleash bioweapons, gets people from all
walks of life congregated and better for spread.
There mad a medical at the trump rally yesterday. I was thinking thats a
perfect place to contaminate, people show up 2 to 3 days early from all
over the country and comingle then disperse everywhere into every caste and
all types of neighborhoods and employers

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 12:33 PM Robert  wrote:

> And latest from China is that people "cured" may still spread infection,
> but there is a good chance that the results may be from bad testing that
> they are "cured"...
>
> On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> CDC briefing from yesterday:
>
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
> Good to hear.
>
> For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still
> probably the best place to be in cases like this
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
> The canary is ok at this time...
>
> On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
> > actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an
> > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
> >
> > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the
> >> first time and then it's all over the second time.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
> >>
> >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
> >> this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so,
> >> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and
> >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second
> >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
> >>
> >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
> >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with
> >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
> >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
> >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
> >>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>> whats the canary status?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert  >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
> >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
> >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
> >>>> the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
> >>>>> mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
> >>>>> should be okay
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
> >>>>> sure
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
> >>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
> >>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Robert

And latest from China is that people "cured" may still spread infection, 
but there is a good chance that the results may be from bad testing that 
they are "cured"...


On 2/22/20 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


CDC briefing from yesterday:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Good to hear.

For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still 
probably the best place to be in cases like this


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:


The canary is ok at this time...

On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
> actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions
( not an
> attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
>
> On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get
damaged the
>> first time and then it's all over the second time.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>>
>> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
>> this.    Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October
or so,
>> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus
and
>> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the
second
>> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>>
>> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text... Kinda figured with
>>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
>>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
>>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
>>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
>>>
>>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>> whats the canary status?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert
mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other
cases (
>>>>     the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for
example )
>>>>     they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn
much for
>>>>     the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
>>>>
>>>>     On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>     Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
>>>>>     mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com
<mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Spread through the air is fake news
>>>>>
>>>>>         You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>>>>>
>>>>>         If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands
often you
>>>>>         should be okay
>>>>>
>>>>>         They are doing research if it can spread by feces
but are not
>>>>>         sure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         There is a 14 day incubation process so they are
checking you
>>>>>         temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are
coughing or
>>>>>         spiting or showing any other symptoms
>>>>>
>>>>>         For a virus to spread you normally need to have at
least a
>>>>>         slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from
China
>>>>> or not
>>>>>
>>>>>         Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever
you would
>>>>>         never notice it unless someone told you
>>>>>
>>>>>         I think people saying you can get it through the air
came
>>>>>         from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
>>>>>         wearing a m

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof

CDC briefing from yesterday:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 9:56 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

Good to hear.

For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still probably 
the best place to be in cases like this

 

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

The canary is ok at this time...

On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage 
> actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an 
> attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
> 
> On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the 
>> first time and then it's all over the second time.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>>
>> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with 
>> this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, 
>> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and 
>> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second 
>> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>>
>> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with 
>>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up... 
>>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting 
>>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the 
>>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
>>>
>>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>> whats the canary status?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert >>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>  
>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> >> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
>>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
>>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
>>>> the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
>>>>> mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>  
>>>>> <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> >> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Spread through the air is fake news
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
>>>>> should be okay
>>>>>
>>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
>>>>> sure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
>>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
>>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms
>>>>>
>>>>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
>>>>> slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China 
>>>>> or not
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
>>>>> never notice it unless someone told you
>>>>>
>>>>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came
>>>>> from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
>>>>> wearing a mask
>>>>>
>>>>>  But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>>>>>
>>>>> It was not just in the air
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> >> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Steve Jones

Good to hear.
For all the complaints about our healthcare system, the US is still
probably the best place to be in cases like this

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 6:23 PM Robert Andrews  wrote:

> The canary is ok at this time...
>
> On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> > The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage
> > actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an
> > attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.
> >
> > On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the
> >> first time and then it's all over the second time.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you do about that?
> >>
> >> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with
> >> this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so,
> >> and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and
> >> China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second
> >> time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
> >>
> >> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
> >>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with
> >>> another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...
> >>> There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting
> >>> corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the
> >>> deaths...  That would be very bad.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>> whats the canary status?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert  >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
> >>>> the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
> >>>> they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
> >>>> the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>>> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
> >>>>> mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Spread through the air is fake news
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
> >>>>> should be okay
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
> >>>>> sure
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
> >>>>> temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
> >>>>> spiting or showing any other symptoms
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
> >>>>> slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China
> >>>>> or not
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
> >>>>> never notice it unless someone told you
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came
> >>>>> from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
> >>>>> wearing a mask
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was not just in the air
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert  >>>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles
> >>>>> than

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Robert Andrews

The canary is ok at this time...

On 02/17/2020 03:45 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage 
actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an 
attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.

On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the 
first time and then it's all over the second time.

I'm not sure what you do about that?

This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with 
this.Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, 
and a first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and 
China knows what it does, then when it started going around the second 
time they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.

On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with 
another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up... 
There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting 
corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the 
deaths...  That would be very bad.

On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.

On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
sure

There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
spiting or showing any other symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China 
or not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
never notice it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came
from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles
than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
>
https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles 

>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
    <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature
taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14
days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly
this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most
seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a
corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't
mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air
(not just droplets), which means the spread distance from
an infected person is much greater than the common 
cold/flu.

>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard
lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you
can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believ

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Matt Hoppes

Maybe. Heart Attacks can also be caused by pneumonia which puts an increasingly 
strain on the circulatory system trying to get oxygen around the system. 

> On Feb 17, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage actually.  
>  The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an attack ) from 
> the by products introduced in the first infection.
> 
>> On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the first 
>> time and then it's all over the second time.
>> I'm not sure what you do about that?
>> This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with this.
>> Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, and a first 
>> wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and China knows what it 
>> does, then when it started going around the second time they knew what the 
>> outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.
>>> On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with another 40 
>>> coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...   There is 
>>> speculation that immunity is not a given after getting corona-fu and the 
>>> second time you get it is what is causing the deaths...  That would be very 
>>> bad.
>>> 
>>>> On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>> whats the canary status?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert >>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
>>>>the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
>>>>they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
>>>>the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
>>>> 
>>>>>On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>>>>> 
>>>>>On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
>>>>>mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Spread through the air is fake news
>>>>> 
>>>>>You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>>>>> 
>>>>>If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
>>>>>should be okay
>>>>> 
>>>>>They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
>>>>>sure
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
>>>>>temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
>>>>>spiting or showing any other symptoms
>>>>> 
>>>>>For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
>>>>>slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not
>>>>> 
>>>>>Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
>>>>>never notice it unless someone told you
>>>>> 
>>>>>I think people saying you can get it through the air came
>>>>>from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
>>>>>wearing a mask
>>>>> 
>>>>> But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>>>>> 
>>>>>It was not just in the air
>>>>> 
>>>>>On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert >>>><mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>>>>> 
>>>>>On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>> China is actually doing a better job against measles
>>>>>than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Robert Andrews

The pathology that I had seen talked about it causing heart damage 
actually.   The second infection triggers fatal heart reactions ( not an 
attack ) from the by products introduced in the first infection.

On 02/17/2020 03:06 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the 
first time and then it's all over the second time.

I'm not sure what you do about that?

This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with this. 
   Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, and a 
first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and China 
knows what it does, then when it started going around the second time 
they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.

On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with 
another 40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...   
There is speculation that immunity is not a given after getting 
corona-fu and the second time you get it is what is causing the 
deaths...  That would be very bad.

On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.

On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
sure

There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
spiting or showing any other symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or 
not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
never notice it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came
from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles
than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles 

>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
    <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature
taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14
days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly
this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most
seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a
corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't
mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air
(not just droplets), which means the spread distance from
an infected person is much greater than the common 
cold/flu.

>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard
lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you
can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Matt Hoppes

I have seen that as well... suspecting that the lungs get damaged the 
first time and then it's all over the second time.

I'm not sure what you do about that?

This could explain *tin foil hat* why China is going so crazy with this. 
  Suppose for a moment that the virus was out in October or so, and a 
first wave went around.  IF this was a manufactured virus and China 
knows what it does, then when it started going around the second time 
they knew what the outcome would be if it wasn't stopped.

On 2/17/20 6:02 PM, Robert wrote:
Haven't asked since last time, I'll text...  Kinda figured with another 
40 coming stateside from the cruise ship the gig is up...   There is 
speculation that immunity is not a given after getting corona-fu and the 
second time you get it is what is causing the deaths...  That would be 
very bad.

On 2/17/20 1:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example )
they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for
the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.

On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and sanitize  your hands often you
should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not
sure

There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
spiting or showing any other symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
never notice it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came
from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was
wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles
than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
        mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature
taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14
days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly
this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most
seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a
corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't
mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air
(not just droplets), which means the spread distance from
an infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu.
>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard
lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you
can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>
>> when you go to the airport they check your temperature
even for
>> domestic before you get to the terminal and check
again before you

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Matt Hoppes

In China - The canary is dead elsewhere things do not seem so bad, 
just yet.


On 2/17/20 4:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:


Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases (
the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they
were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the
worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.

On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you
should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure


There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you
temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or
spiting or showing any other symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a
slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would
never notice it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came from
a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles
than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
        mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature
taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14
days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly
this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most
seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a
corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't
mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not
just droplets), which means the spread distance from an
infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu.
>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you
can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>
>> when you go to the airport they check your temperature
even for
>> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again
before you get
>> on the flight
>>
>> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature
before they let you
>> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>
>> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like
whale watching you
>> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that
you don't have
>> the virus
>>
>> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>
>> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police
installing metal
>> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to
quarantine at the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-17 Thread Steve Jones

whats the canary status?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM Robert  wrote:

> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the
> couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were
> getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But we
> have our fingers crossed for him.
>
> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> Spread through the air is fake news
>>
>> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>>
>> If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be
>> okay
>>
>> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure
>>
>>
>> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but
>> also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any
>> other symptoms
>>
>> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever
>> no one knows if that is fake news from China or not
>>
>> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice
>> it unless someone told you
>>
>> I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse
>> got infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask
>>
>>  But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>>
>> It was not just in the air
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert  wrote:
>>
>>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>>>
>>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United
>>> States.  We have become complacent.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy
>>> Steele 
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>> >
>>> > Hi Timothy!
>>> >
>>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
>>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before
>>> symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than
>>> stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
>>> >
>>> > Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus,
>>> but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
>>> >
>>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just
>>> droplets), which means the spread distance from an infected person is much
>>> greater than the common cold/flu.
>>> >
>>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>>> >
>>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>> >>
>>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
>>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>> >>
>>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>> >>
>>> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
>>> >> on the flight
>>> >>
>>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
>>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>> >>
>>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
>>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
>>> >> the virus
>>> >>
>>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>> >>
>>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
>>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
>>> >> hospital
>>> >>
>>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
>>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
>>> >>
>>> >>
&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Jones

I wonder, since I have a cough, if I can self quarantine for 14 days and be
protected under FMLA

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:23 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

> From an article I read this morning.  Glad I'm in FL
>
> The transcript of the call showed Nicholls believes weather conditions
> will be a key factor in the demise of the novel coronavirus. Referencing
> the SARS outbreak from 2002 and 2003, Nicholls said he thinks similar
> weather factors will also shut down the spread of the novel coronavirus.
> "Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature, and 3.
> Humidity," Nicholls said in response to a question about when he thinks
> confirmed cases will peak, the transcript showed.
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 10:59:02 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> Warning, this is an extremely left wing website, but the article seems to
> have a lot of good information and graphs, and other than criticizing a
> couple of politicians for promoting a conspiracy theory, the info seems to
> be non political.
>
>
> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/12/1918567/-Coronavirus-cases-reach-45-000-But-it-did-not-come-from-a-weapons-lab-and-yes-we-know-that
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Robert
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:28 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the
> couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were
> getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But we
> have our fingers crossed for him.
> On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
> Spread through the air is fake news
>
> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>
> If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be okay
>
> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure
>
>
> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but
> also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any
> other symptoms
>
> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever no
> one knows if that is fake news from China or not
>
> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice
> it unless someone told you
>
> I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse got
> infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask
>
> But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>
> It was not just in the air
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert  wrote:
>
> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>
> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United
> States.  We have become complacent.
> >
> >
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy Steele <
> timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> >
> > Hi Timothy!
> >
> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before
> symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than
> stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
> >
> > Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but
> so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
> >
> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets),
> which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater
> than the common cold/flu.
> >
> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
> >
> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
> >>
> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
> >>
> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
> >>
> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)


From an article I read this morning.  Glad I'm in FL

The transcript of the call showed Nicholls believes weather conditions will be a key factor in the demise of the novel coronavirus. Referencing the SARS outbreak from 2002 and 2003, Nicholls said he thinks similar weather factors will also shut down the spread of the novel coronavirus.
"Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature, and 3. Humidity," Nicholls said in response to a question about when he thinks confirmed cases will peak, the transcript showed.



--
Best regards,
 Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 10:59:02 AM, you wrote:





Warning, this is an extremely left wing website, but the article seems to have a lot of good information and graphs, and other than criticizing a couple of politicians for promoting a conspiracy theory, the info seems to be non political.
 
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/12/1918567/-Coronavirus-cases-reach-45-000-But-it-did-not-come-from-a-weapons-lab-and-yes-we-know-that
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
 
Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But we have our fingers crossed for him.
On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:




Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status
 
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote:




Spread through the air is fake news 
 
You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
 
If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be okay
 
They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure
 
 
There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any other symptoms
 
For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not
 
Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice it unless someone told you
 
I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse got infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask
 
 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
 
It was not just in the air
 
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:




Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu.
>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>
>> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
>> on the flight
>>
>> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
>> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>
>> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
>> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
>> the virus
>>
>> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>
>> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police in

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof

Warning, this is an extremely left wing website, but the article seems to have 
a lot of good information and graphs, and other than criticizing a couple of 
politicians for promoting a conspiracy theory, the info seems to be non 
political.

 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/12/1918567/-Coronavirus-cases-reach-45-000-But-it-did-not-come-from-a-weapons-lab-and-yes-we-know-that

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the couple 
who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were getting better 
and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But we have our fingers 
crossed for him.

On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Spread through the air is fake news 

 

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

 

If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be okay

 

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure

 

 

There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but also 
keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any other 
symptoms

 

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever no one 
knows if that is fake news from China or not

 

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice it 
unless someone told you

 

I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse got 
infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask

 

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

 

It was not just in the air

 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United States.  
> We have become complacent.
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >; Timothy Steele  <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before symptoms 
> occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than stopping the 
> folks who are most seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but so 
> is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), 
> which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater than 
> the common cold/flu.
>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>
>> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
>> on the flight
>>
>> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
>> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>
>> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
>> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
>> the virus
>>
>> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>
>> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
>> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
>> hospital
>>
>> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
>> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared
>> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young
>>
>> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with
>> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and
>> infect you
>>
>> in the U.S though there ar

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-11 Thread Robert

Seems to be getting better, but we are standing by. Other cases ( the 
couple who were transferred to SF Med center for example ) they were 
getting better and then abruptly took a turn much for the worse.   But 
we have our fingers crossed for him.


On 2/11/20 6:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you
should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure


There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp
but also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or
showing any other symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight
fever no one knows if that is fake news from China or not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never
notice it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a
nurse got infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> China is actually doing a better job against measles than
the United States.  We have become complacent.
>
>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Timothy Steele
    mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> Hi Timothy!
>
> I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking). 
 Since the
> person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days
before symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is
doing other than stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
>
> Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a
corona virus, but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean
they are all the flu.
>
> Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not
just droplets), which means the spread distance from an
infected person is much greater than the common cold/flu.
>
> This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>
> On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>>
>> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you
can't believe
>> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>>
>> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>>
>> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again
before you get
>> on the flight
>>
>> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before
they let you
>> walk in even if just to eat inside
>>
>> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas like whale
watching you
>> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you
don't have
>> the virus
>>
>> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>>
>> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police
installing metal
>> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
>> hospital
>>
>> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any
part of china
>> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not
that scared
>> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm
still young
>>
>> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not
help you with
>> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or
nurse and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-11 Thread Steve Jones

Who was it that had the pilot canary? What is their status

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 12:33 AM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> Spread through the air is fake news
>
> You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile
>
> If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be okay
>
> They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure
>
>
> There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but
> also keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any
> other symptoms
>
> For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever no
> one knows if that is fake news from China or not
>
> Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice
> it unless someone told you
>
> I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse got
> infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask
>
>  But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly
>
> It was not just in the air
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert  wrote:
>
>> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>>
>> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United
>> States.  We have become complacent.
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-----
>> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy Steele
>> 
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>> >
>> > Hi Timothy!
>> >
>> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
>> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before
>> symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than
>> stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
>> >
>> > Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus,
>> but so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
>> >
>> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just
>> droplets), which means the spread distance from an infected person is much
>> greater than the common cold/flu.
>> >
>> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
>> >
>> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
>> >>
>> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
>> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
>> >>
>> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
>> >>
>> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
>> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
>> >> on the flight
>> >>
>> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
>> >> walk in even if just to eat inside
>> >>
>> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
>> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
>> >> the virus
>> >>
>> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected
>> >>
>> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
>> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
>> >> hospital
>> >>
>> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
>> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared
>> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young
>> >>
>> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with
>> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and
>> >> infect you
>> >>
>> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources
>> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about there
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't
>> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to
>> >> live w

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Timothy Steele

Spread through the air is fake news

You need a projectile to hit you or touch the projectile

If you have good hygiene and  sanitize  your hands often you should be okay

They are doing research if it can spread by feces but are not sure


There is a 14 day incubation process so they are checking you temp but also
keeping an eye on you if you are coughing or spiting or showing any other
symptoms

For a virus to spread you normally need to have at least a slight fever no
one knows if that is fake news from China or not

Because it's so hot here if you had a slight fever you would never notice
it unless someone told you

I think people saying you can get it through the air came from a nurse got
infected through her eyes when she was wearing a mask

 But she was hit by a projectile by someone infected directly

It was not just in the air

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 1:22 PM Robert  wrote:

> Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..
>
> On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United
> States.  We have become complacent.
> >
> >
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy Steele <
> timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> >
> > Hi Timothy!
> >
> > I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
> > person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before
> symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than
> stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.
> >
> > Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but
> so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.
> >
> > Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets),
> which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater
> than the common cold/flu.
> >
> > This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.
> >
> > On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> >> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
> >>
> >> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
> >> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
> >>
> >> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
> >>
> >> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
> >> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
> >> on the flight
> >>
> >> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
> >> walk in even if just to eat inside
> >>
> >> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
> >> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
> >> the virus
> >>
> >> in bohol nurses are getting infected
> >>
> >> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
> >> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
> >> hospital
> >>
> >> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
> >> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared
> >> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young
> >>
> >> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with
> >> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and
> >> infect you
> >>
> >> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources
> >> are so high there is nothing to really worry about there
> >>
> >>
> >> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't
> >> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to
> >> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and the flu is not
> >> common here as its always hot so the immune system is not really ready
> >> for it
> >>
> >> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an
> >> issue in the U.S
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard  >> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Ki

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Robert


Anti-vaxers in CN pretty much are a non-issue..

On 2/10/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United States.  
We have become complacent.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles



-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy Steele 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Hi Timothy!

I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the
person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before symptoms 
occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than stopping the 
folks who are most seriously sick.

Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but so is 
the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.

Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), which 
means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater than the 
common cold/flu.

This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.

On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:

I'm living in asia right now (philippines)

they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe
what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing

we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary

when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get
on the flight

resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you
walk in even if just to eat inside

if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you
have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have
the virus

in bohol nurses are getting infected

U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal
bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the
hospital

as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china
hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over


I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared
of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young

if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with
this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and
infect you

in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources
are so high there is nothing to really worry about there


but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't
have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to
live with grandparents that can easily get sick and the flu is not
common here as its always hot so the immune system is not really ready
for it

it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an
issue in the U.S

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky,
 only... different.

 On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

 That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as
 opposed to what I expected from the headline.  Still
creepy.

 __ __

 *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
 *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 __ __

 This is concerning
 
https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird

s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/

 __ __

 On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun
 mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>
 wrote:

 A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.

 -Original Message-
 From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
 <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
 To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
         Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of
 magnitude
 more cynical than me.


 On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
  > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I
 essentially ignore all that stuff.  Life is too short.
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett
 mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  >>
  >> The thing drivin

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

China is actually doing a better job against measles than the United States.  
We have become complacent.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2019/12/27/how-china-is-winning-the-war-against-measles



-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 9:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Timothy Steele 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Hi Timothy!

I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the 
person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before symptoms 
occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than stopping the 
folks who are most seriously sick.

Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but so is 
the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.

Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), which 
means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater than the 
common cold/flu.

This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.

On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> I'm living in asia right now (philippines)
> 
> they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe 
> what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing
> 
> we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary
> 
> when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for 
> domestic before you get to the terminal and check again before you get 
> on the flight
> 
> resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you 
> walk in even if just to eat inside
> 
> if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you 
> have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have 
> the virus
> 
> in bohol nurses are getting infected
> 
> U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal 
> bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the 
> hospital
> 
> as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china 
> hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over
> 
> 
> I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared 
> of the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young
> 
> if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with 
> this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and 
> infect you
> 
> in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources 
> are so high there is nothing to really worry about there
> 
> 
> but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't 
> have proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to 
> live with grandparents that can easily get sick and the flu is not 
> common here as its always hot so the immune system is not really ready 
> for it
> 
> it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an 
> issue in the U.S
> 
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard  <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky,
> only... different.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof  <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> 
> That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as
> opposed to what I expected from the headline.  Still 
> creepy.
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:* AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> __ __
> 
> This is concerning
> 
> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-bird
> s-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/
> 
> __ __
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun
> mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>
> wrote:
> 
> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of
> magnitude
> more cynical than me.
> 
> 
> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>  > I am

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)


Hi Timothy!

I keep hearing about this happening (temperature taking).   Since the 
person can be contagious but a-symptomatic for up to 14 days before 
symptoms occur, I keep wondering what exactly this is doing other than 
stopping the folks who are most seriously sick.


Is this really just another flu strain though?  It's a corona virus, but 
so is the common cold -- that doesn't mean they are all the flu.


Now I hear this thing can be spread through the air (not just droplets), 
which means the spread distance from an infected person is much greater 
than the common cold/flu.


This is certainly some of the better news I've heard lately.

On 2/10/20 9:55 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:

I'm living in asia right now (philippines)

they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe 
what china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing


we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary

when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for 
domestic before you get to the terminal

and check again before you get on the flight

resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you 
walk in even if just to eat inside


if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you 
have to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have 
the virus


in bohol nurses are getting infected

U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal 
bars on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the hospital


as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china 
hong kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over



I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared of 
the virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young


if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with 
this yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and 
infect you


in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources 
are so high there is nothing to really worry about there



but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't have 
proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to live 
with grandparents
that can easily get sick and the flu is not common here as its always 
hot so the immune system is not really ready for it


it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an 
issue in the U.S


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky,
only... different.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as
opposed to what I expected from the headline.  Still creepy.

__ __

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

__ __

This is concerning

https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/

__ __

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun
mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca>>
wrote:

A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of
magnitude
more cynical than me.


On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
 > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I
essentially ignore all that stuff.  Life is too short.
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
 >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >>
 >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally
everything is a "conspiracy".
 >>
 >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and
nobody has the whole picture of what happened until more
time passes.  In the interim there's a lot of conflicting
information going around. People latch onto early bits of
information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go
of them.
 >>
 >> Coronavirus

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Timothy Steele

I'm living in asia right now (philippines)

they are going to extremes to contain the virus no you can't believe what
china is saying but I do believe what I'm seeing

we just took a vacation to cebu for our anniversary

when you go to the airport they check your temperature even for
domestic before you get to the terminal
and check again before you get on the flight

resorts and hotels have to check your temperature before they let you walk
in even if just to eat inside

if you want to go into a bigger crowded areas  like whale watching you have
to get all you vitals checked and get stamped that you don't have the virus

in bohol nurses are getting infected

U.S citizens in china post on social media of police installing metal bars
on doors of anyone's home that refuse to quarantine at the hospital

as I'm a foreigner I'm not allowed to fly in or out any part of china hong
kong or taiwan until the virus travel ban is over


I don't mean to scare anyone just sharing truths I'm not that scared of the
virus as its just a new strain of the flu and I'm still young

if I was older I would be scared as a flu shot will not help you with this
yet and the is a mask shortage so your own doctor or nurse and infect you

in the U.S though there are so few that have it and hospital resources are
so high there is nothing to really worry about there


but in asia where good hospitals are hard to find most houses don't have
proper showers nurses are out of masks its standard for kids to live with
grandparents
that can easily get sick and the flu is not common here as its always hot
so the immune system is not really ready for it

it is a very scary virus in asia but I don't see it being much of an issue
in the U.S

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:32 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky,
> only... different.
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as opposed to
>> what I expected from the headline.  Still creepy.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>
>>
>>
>> This is concerning
>> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun 
>> wrote:
>>
>> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>
>> I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude
>> more cynical than me.
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore
>> all that stuff.  Life is too short.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>> "conspiracy".
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
>> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go
>> of them.
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>> bunkers.
>> >>
>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's
>> said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>> >>
>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> >>>
>> >>> I had

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Mathew Howard

Oh, that's probably just a delicious snack! Kind of like beef jerky,
only... different.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 7:22 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as opposed to what
> I expected from the headline.  Still creepy.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
> This is concerning
> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun 
> wrote:
>
> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude
> more cynical than me.
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all
> that stuff.  Life is too short.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> >>
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go
> of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean
> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's
> said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >>
> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>>
> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>>
> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus
> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
> >>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

That looks like an actual product they bought in China, as opposed to what I 
expected from the headline.  Still creepy.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

This is concerning 
https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun mailto:sleb...@corebroadband.ca> > wrote:

A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude 
more cynical than me.


On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
> stuff.  Life is too short.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
>> picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a 
>> lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
>> information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
>> one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
>> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so 
>> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe 
>> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

What in the. 

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> This is concerning 
> https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun  wrote:
>> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>> 
>> I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude 
>> more cynical than me.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all 
>> > that stuff.  Life is too short.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> >> "conspiracy".
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim 
>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto 
>> >> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go 
>> >> of them.
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean 
>> >> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>> >>
>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
>> >> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information 
>> >> so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or 
>> >> maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>> >>
>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> >>>
>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
>> >>> particularly deadly.
>> >>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

This is concerning
https://breaking911.com/cbp-officers-at-va-airport-intercept-dead-birds-in-passenger-baggage-from-china/

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:00 PM Shayne Lebrun 
wrote:

> A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude
> more cynical than me.
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all
> that stuff.  Life is too short.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> >>
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go
> of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean
> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's
> said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >>
> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>>
> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>>
> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus
> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
> >>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Shayne Lebrun

A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude 
more cynical than me.


On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
> stuff.  Life is too short.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
>> picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a 
>> lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
>> information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
>> one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
>> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so 
>> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe 
>> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

So in the comic Pearls Before Swine, Chuck is Pig, and Steve is Rat?

Or maybe like the boss I had once who said he was a Tigger and I was an Eeyore?

 

Tiggers tend to get ahead in the world, because nobody likes an Eeyore.

Even if the Eeyores tend to be right more often than not.

(And when they’re wrong, usually it’s because things are even worse than they 
predicted.)

 

I liked Griffin in Men In Black 3.

He was a combination of optimist and pessimist.

But I guess you have to be an alien to see all the possible future timelines.

 

 

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thats what "they" want you to do

 

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:00 PM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
stuff.  Life is too short.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
> "conspiracy".
> 
> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
> picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a 
> lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
> information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.
> 
> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> 
> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> 
> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
> one's obviously a joke.right?)
> 
> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> 
> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe they 
> just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so 
> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe 
> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> 
> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> 
>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> 
>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude 
more cynical than me.



On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
stuff.  Life is too short.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
"conspiracy".

Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a lot 
of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.

Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong

Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war

Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
one's obviously a joke.right?)

Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.

China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe they 
just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so they're 
reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe rumors on 
Facebook aren't all true.

See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.




On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.

I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.

Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual infections. 
I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus appears to be 
more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats what "they" want you to do


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:00 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all
> that stuff.  Life is too short.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> >
> > The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> "conspiracy".
> >
> > Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go
> of them.
> >
> > Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >
> > Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >
> > Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean
> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >
> > Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >
> > China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe
> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so
> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe
> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >
> > See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>
> >> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>
> >> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus
> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Chuck McCown

I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
stuff.  Life is too short.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
> "conspiracy".
> 
> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
> picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a 
> lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
> information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.
> 
> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> 
> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> 
> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
> one's obviously a joke.right?)
> 
> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> 
> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe they 
> just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so 
> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe 
> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> 
> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> 
>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> 
>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I guess I'm not sure what the point is here.  Diseases really do spread 
according to statistically predictable patterns.  That's not evidence of 
anything.



On 2/10/2020 12:27 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

And here are the infections for the next few days:

image1.jpeg

On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:



You will note that the infections curve is starting to flatten.


bp


On 2/10/2020 8:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:


On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:


China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
information so they're reporting what they think is true at the 
time it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly 
following a very specific amount increase each day which is now 
predictable in advance.  They appear to be using a formula.


Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

And here are the infections for the next few days:



> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> You will note that the infections curve is starting to flatten.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 2/10/2020 8:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: 
>>> 
 China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
 they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information 
 so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or 
 maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true. 
>>> 
>>> Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly following a 
>>> very specific amount increase each day which is now predictable in advance. 
>>>  They appear to be using a formula. 
>> 
>> Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too. 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Ah.. The bagel & coffee break brake.


bp



On 2/10/2020 8:43 AM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  The johns hopkins graph levels every morning but
recovers trajectory as the day progresses. I think there is a
delay in calculations at some point
  
  
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:41
  AM Bill Prince  wrote:


  
You will note that the infections curve is starting to
  flatten.

bp



On 2/10/2020 8:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

 
  On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: 
   
China is hiding all the
  information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe they
  just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of
  all information so they're reporting what they think
  is true at the time it's said, or maybe rumors on
  Facebook aren't all true. 


Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are
oddly following a very specific amount increase each day
which is now predictable in advance.  They appear to be
using a formula. 
  
  
  Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too. 
  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Oh my God!! I didnt even realize that.  he is literally hitler. Bernie
created the kungflu. Thats why he honeymooned in russia, to collect genetic
samples

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
>
>
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is
> in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too
> Weve said too much
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
> >> won't let go of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >>
> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>>
> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>>
> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
> >>> particularly deadly.
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

we had a good run

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:51 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> If either of us commit suicide tomorrow then it wasn't a suicide.
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is
> in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too
> Weve said too much
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>>> >> "conspiracy".
>>> >>
>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>>> >> won't let go of them.
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong
>>> Kong
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>>> bunkers.
>>> >>
>>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>> >>
>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>>> >>> particularly deadly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Socialists are also communists, so don't be surprised if Coronavirus is 
genetically designed to kill Bernie.

We need to meme this and spread it on Facebook ASAP.

On 2/10/2020 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a 
Nazi.  So the Internet says.

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... 
russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the 
running too Weve said too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously
genetically designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99%
of infections are asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of
the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the
population so they can initiate another run at global
domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend,
carols husband Brad told her that he heard that this is what
brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming an
alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow
government of guess what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally
everything is a
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and
nobody has the
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.
In the interim
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around.
People latch
>> onto early bits of information that turn out to be
wrong and they
>> won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract
press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a
trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit
Mexican Lager (I
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our
survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. 
Really? Or
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient
feed of all
>> information so they're reporting what they think is
true at the time
>> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a
dozen actual
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big
deal. Novel
>>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS,
but not
>>> particularly deadly.
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So 
the Internet says.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

 

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said 
too much

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

 

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed 
to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously 
this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the 
population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors 
mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard 
that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming 
an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of guess 
what... Nazis.

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
>> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
>> won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
>> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
>> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
>>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
>>> particularly deadly.
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is
in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too
Weve said too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>> >
>> >
>> > bp
>> > 
>> >
>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>> >> "conspiracy".
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>> >> won't let go of them.
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>> bunkers.
>> >>
>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>> >>
>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> >>>
>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>> >>> particularly deadly.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.


On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically 
designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are 
asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to 
eliminate a majority of the population so they can initiate another 
run at global domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her 
friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard that this is what 
brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming an 
alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of 
guess what... Nazis.


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:


You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally
everything is a
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody
has the
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the
interim
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People
latch
>> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>> won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from
Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the
time
>> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen
actual
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>>> particularly deadly.
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

The johns hopkins graph levels every morning but recovers trajectory as the
day progresses. I think there is a delay in calculations at some point

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:41 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> You will note that the infections curve is starting to flatten.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
>
> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe
> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so
> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe
> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>
>
> Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly following a
> very specific amount increase each day which is now predictable in
> advance.  They appear to be using a formula.
>
>
> Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too.
>
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Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
> >> won't let go of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >>
> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>>
> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>>
> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
> >>> particularly deadly.
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
You will note that the infections curve is starting to flatten.

bp



On 2/10/2020 8:34 AM, Adam Moffett
  wrote:


  
  On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
  
  

China is hiding all the information
  about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe they just don't have a
  live real-time omniscient feed of all information so they're
  reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or
  maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
  


Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly
following a very specific amount increase each day which is now
predictable in advance.  They appear to be using a formula.

  
  
  Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too.
  
  
  

  

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On 2/10/2020 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:


China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly following 
a very specific amount increase each day which is now predictable in 
advance.  They appear to be using a formula.


Actual infections can be predicted by algorithms too.


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You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

I'm waiting for Godwin...


bp


On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
"conspiracy".


Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
won't let go of them.


Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong

Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war

Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)


Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.

China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.



On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.

I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.

Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
particularly deadly.








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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

the two in chicago recovered

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:28 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> China is just collecting more souls for the terracotta army. stop
> listening to the other far flung conspiracy theories, I know this to be
> fact because there is a whole pinterest board about it
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:26 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
>> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let
>> go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean
>> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe
>> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information
>> so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or
>> maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> > Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> >
>> > I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> >
>> > Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
>> > infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>> > Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>> > particularly deadly.
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Bill Prince


I'm waiting for Godwin...


bp


On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
"conspiracy".


Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim 
there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
won't let go of them.


Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong

Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war

Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)


Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.

China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.



On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.

I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.

Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
particularly deadly.






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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

China is just collecting more souls for the terracotta army. stop listening
to the other far flung conspiracy theories, I know this to be fact because
there is a whole pinterest board about it

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:26 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> "conspiracy".
>
> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim
> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto
> early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let
> go of them.
>
> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>
> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>
> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean
> that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>
> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>
> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe
> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information
> so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or
> maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>
> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >
> > I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >
> > Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> > infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
> > Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
> > particularly deadly.
> >
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China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information 
so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or 
maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


Well yes... except that the numbers being reported are oddly following a 
very specific amount increase each day which is now predictable in 
advance.  They appear to be using a formula.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Notice they removed the number of cases in each state and just changed 
it to yes/no hard to plan with that, eh?

On 2/10/20 11:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

Here in Illinois they are scare mongering. They announce that Champaign 
Urbana potentially has coronavirus, there are a couple PUI
But when you get far down into the articles  they make a point of 
skimming over the fact that they expanded the PUI criteria. eventually 
theyre just going to expand it to six degrees of kevin bacon so they can 
basically say everyone is a PUI and the entirety of the US is under 
observation. Its a joke and people are sheep

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:09 AM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:

I'm hoping that's the case... what's frustrating is the inability to
get
proper numbers and information from China... they appear to be using a
Sigmoid function to release their death and infection rates -- which of
course is totally bogus.

As much as I don't wish ill on anyone, the cruise ships may prove to be
vital in fully understanding what this virus is capable of.

I also wonder if some of "the worst Flu season in some time" isn't the
result of this thing spreading but not affecting us here in the U.S. as
much.  I just spoke with a doctor friend of mine yesterday who said she
and her husband had some kind of terrible chest illness for a week
or so
where they would just cough up a wet gunk.

On 2/10/20 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
 > Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
 >
 > I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
 >
 > Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
 > infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
 > Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
 > particularly deadly.
 >

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
"conspiracy".


Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
whole picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim 
there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto 
early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let 
go of them.


Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong

Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war

Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean 
that one's obviously a joke.right?)


Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.

China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information 
so they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or 
maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.


See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.



On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.

I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.

Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
particularly deadly.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/report-offers-insights-why-early-
coronavirus-cases-may-have-been-n1131986
Original article in JAMA requires a subscription.

It's so reassuring that many of the original cases were actually acquired in
the hospital.  OK, many were health care workers, so perhaps expected.  But
still, there's the old saying that if you aren't sick already you will be if
you go to a hospital.


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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:04 AM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.

I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.

Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus
appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

Here in Illinois they are scare mongering. They announce that Champaign
Urbana potentially has coronavirus, there are a couple PUI
But when you get far down into the articles  they make a point of skimming
over the fact that they expanded the PUI criteria. eventually theyre just
going to expand it to six degrees of kevin bacon so they can basically say
everyone is a PUI and the entirety of the US is under observation. Its a
joke and people are sheep

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> I'm hoping that's the case... what's frustrating is the inability to get
> proper numbers and information from China... they appear to be using a
> Sigmoid function to release their death and infection rates -- which of
> course is totally bogus.
>
> As much as I don't wish ill on anyone, the cruise ships may prove to be
> vital in fully understanding what this virus is capable of.
>
> I also wonder if some of "the worst Flu season in some time" isn't the
> result of this thing spreading but not affecting us here in the U.S. as
> much.  I just spoke with a doctor friend of mine yesterday who said she
> and her husband had some kind of terrible chest illness for a week or so
> where they would just cough up a wet gunk.
>
> On 2/10/20 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >
> > I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >
> > Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
> > infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
> > Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
> > particularly deadly.
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill

I thought this was good bathroom reading material on the subject, LOL

https://www.theepochtimes.com/footage-of-new-military-operated-coronavirus-hospital-in-wuhan-reveals-prison-like-environs_3225863.html?fbclid=IwAR12tIxf0_b-hjgP2mvEUJCz144xV7F2LhaKNAOlCXixDdGxU4vWMul5C80
 






  
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> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm hoping that's the case... what's frustrating is the inability to get 
> proper numbers and information from China... they appear to be using a 
> Sigmoid function to release their death and infection rates -- which of 
> course is totally bogus.
> 
> As much as I don't wish ill on anyone, the cruise ships may prove to be vital 
> in fully understanding what this virus is capable of.
> 
> I also wonder if some of "the worst Flu season in some time" isn't the result 
> of this thing spreading but not affecting us here in the U.S. as much.  I 
> just spoke with a doctor friend of mine yesterday who said she and her 
> husband had some kind of terrible chest illness for a week or so where they 
> would just cough up a wet gunk.
> 
> On 2/10/20 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)