Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium: eAlign for Android

2015-07-17 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Paul,

We just started working on it. I don’t have a date for you yet.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forumhttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com



On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Paul McCall 
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

Dear Cambium,

When will the Android app be available?  With 80% of us using Android, it would 
seem pretty important.

Thanks!

☺

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net



[AFMUG] Dear Cambium: eAlign for Android

2015-07-17 Thread Paul McCall
Dear Cambium,

When will the Android app be available?  With 80% of us using Android, it would 
seem pretty important.

Thanks!

:)

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net



Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium: eAlign for Android

2015-07-17 Thread David

Sweet...
thats great news


On 07/17/2015 08:14 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi wrote:

Paul,

We just started working on it. I don’t have a date for you yet.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com



On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:


Dear Cambium,
When will the Android app be available?  With 80% of us using Android, 
it would seem pretty important.

Thanks!
J
Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net





Re: [AFMUG] N splitters

2015-07-17 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We do it with great success. We get ours from L-Com. They show in stock.

http://www.l-com.com/bandpass-filter-rf-splitter-2-way-35-ghz-signal-splitter-n-female-connectors



On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Maybe the universe is telling you to stop doing that?

  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 9:36 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] N splitters

  Anybody know of and distros with decent splitters that arent on back
 order? We split 320 APs out to 2 antennas and all our vendors have them on
 back order til september

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-17 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi George,

By the Freerun fix, I mean this issue, where the Power Port shows Sync but the 
Sync Status still says searching.
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/279i18BB3380325BDEA1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1px=-1

This issue what you are reporting is still present where the software looks for 
the GPS Lock from any of the source and whichever it get first, locks it.
We will try to fix this in future releases.

Thanks,
Chitrang

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: 17 July 2015 10:35
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

450 APs still boot up using the on-board GPS on 13.4 release. Just updated an 
AP with a SyncPipe attached and it came right up on the on-board instead like 
13.2. So I guess that's not fixed.

I've mentioned this before. If you have on-board + power port, it will boot up 
using the power port. It's only when you have timing port  on-board. This 
started early in 13.2 builds with the GPS data bug (like Motorola binary on the 
timing port, aka CMM2 or SyncPipe). I know most of the story behind that. I 
could be wrong, but I'm going to say that NMEA data is preferred over Mot 
binary and that's why it comes up on the on-board.

This is very annoying, especially when you get an iGPS lock that sucks and you 
don't get time/date info for hours or days and all of the log entry times are 
stupid.


Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

2015-07-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I wonder how these are:

http://www.coriant.com/products/documents/DS_8602_Smart_Router_74C0007.pdf

On Thursday, July 16, 2015, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:

 Roughly 4k more or less depending on partner level, greed, and juni's
 need.

 It doesn't make sense everywhere, but if you add parts up, $2k cabinet,
 $1k CTM/CMM, $1k switch, etc it can be cheaper (not just simpler).
 Realistically I'd probably use the non-outdoor version and add to existing
 cabinets which takes a couple $k off the price.
 Though, to enable GPS or NAT/VPN features there are additional
 license/unlock fees.  Still not bad for a router that's temp hardened,
 MPLS-capable, and supported by a major vendor that knows how to do quality
 assurance, etc

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote:

 How much are those?

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@tapodi.net'); wrote:

 E.g. slap a Juniper ACX500-O-PoE on a pole, cable in the backhaul and
 AP, and you're done. No more cabinet, no more poe/sync injector,
 stand-alone switch, etc.







[AFMUG] Cambium PTP 700

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel Gerlach
 have i missed something..what is PTP 700?

i have seen it in the link planner..


Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

2015-07-17 Thread chuck
Sure.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:16 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

I just had a thought... would it be possible to get company logos printed on 
these?


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:59 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  The guys that make the film guarantee the UV protection for whatever it 
covers for greater than 2 years.
  Guys that use the film  for industrial wraps say that after 4 years, it may 
get a film on it and it will lose its sheen from the elements and discolor 
slightly but it does not crack or become brittle.
  Their words, not mine.

  They think we are good to 5+ years on this.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:02 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

  Do you have a black Hefty bag version for areas with icing?

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:00 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

  To keep all  your computing safe and without virus’

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 1:55 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

  ...let's stick with condom...


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
wrote:

I am not sure about 'condom' maybe 'diaphragm'   :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





  From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:38:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product


  You can call it the Cambium Condom.

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I like it! I'm guessing this is going to be relatively cheap?


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:28 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Should be good for 5+ years.  Depends on the base material.






Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

2015-07-17 Thread chuck
Thanks for the vote of confidence.

First option was too expensive for most folks.
And this design/method has much more flexibility.

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

Chuck you know I am interested in some of them. I would have bought the first 
option you came up with.

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:16 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

 

I just had a thought... would it be possible to get company logos printed on 
these?

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:59 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

The guys that make the film guarantee the UV protection for whatever it covers 
for greater than 2 years.

Guys that use the film  for industrial wraps say that after 4 years, it may get 
a film on it and it will lose its sheen from the elements and discolor slightly 
but it does not crack or become brittle.

Their words, not mine.

 

They think we are good to 5+ years on this.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:02 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

 

Do you have a black Hefty bag version for areas with icing?

 

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 

Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:00 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

 

To keep all  your computing safe and without virus’

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 1:55 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

 

...let's stick with condom...

 

 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

  I am not sure about 'condom' maybe 'diaphragm'   :)

   

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet  Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

   

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

   


--

From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:38:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

 

 

You can call it the Cambium Condom.

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

  I like it! I'm guessing this is going to be relatively cheap?

   

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:28 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Should be good for 5+ years.  Depends on the base material.

   

 

   

 

 


[AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Rory Conaway
I may retire the HoHo's.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/

Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the 
triumph of principles. - Ralph Waldo Emerson



Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-17 Thread George Skorup
My bad. I thought I read in the release notes that this was fixed. Maybe 
it was in the known issues section and I'm just stupid.


On 7/17/2015 1:17 AM, Chitrang Srivastava wrote:

Hi George,

By the Freerun fix, I mean this issue, where the Power Port shows Sync but the 
Sync Status still says searching.
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/279i18BB3380325BDEA1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1px=-1

This issue what you are reporting is still present where the software looks for 
the GPS Lock from any of the source and whichever it get first, locks it.
We will try to fix this in future releases.

Thanks,
Chitrang

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: 17 July 2015 10:35
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

450 APs still boot up using the on-board GPS on 13.4 release. Just updated an 
AP with a SyncPipe attached and it came right up on the on-board instead like 
13.2. So I guess that's not fixed.

I've mentioned this before. If you have on-board + power port, it will boot up 
using the power port. It's only when you have timing port  on-board. This 
started early in 13.2 builds with the GPS data bug (like Motorola binary on the 
timing port, aka CMM2 or SyncPipe). I know most of the story behind that. I could 
be wrong, but I'm going to say that NMEA data is preferred over Mot binary and 
that's why it comes up on the on-board.

This is very annoying, especially when you get an iGPS lock that sucks and you 
don't get time/date info for hours or days and all of the log entry times are 
stupid.




[AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Leary
While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by 
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a 
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them 
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a 
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business 
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course, 
we'll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest 
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is 
expected to attend.

There is no cost for this one day event. It'll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

Patrick Leary
Director, Business Development
Telrad
727-501-3735










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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
See, Homer was right, bacon is a vegetable.

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

I may retire the HoHo’s.  

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

 

Rory

 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net

 

“Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the 
triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

 


Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

2015-07-17 Thread chuck
They might.  But I may be the best value.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

Well, since the 450d SM is official now.. it's the same reflector as the 
Force110. And the same sub-reflector. The one I got to put together was like... 
wow, super easy, and they actually listened to us! Sub-reflector snaps into the 
radome, radome snaps onto the dish. So, Cambium would be wise to let us buy the 
radome/sub-reflector kit separately to retrofit our existing Force110's.


On 7/17/2015 10:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Thanks for the vote of confidence.

  First option was too expensive for most folks.
  And this design/method has much more flexibility.

  From: Brandon Yuchasz 
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:40 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

  Chuck you know I am interested in some of them. I would have bought the first 
option you came up with.

   

  Best regards,

  Brandon Yuchasz

  GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:16 PM
  To: af
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

   

  I just had a thought... would it be possible to get company logos printed on 
these?

   

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:59 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  The guys that make the film guarantee the UV protection for whatever it 
covers for greater than 2 years.

  Guys that use the film  for industrial wraps say that after 4 years, it may 
get a film on it and it will lose its sheen from the elements and discolor 
slightly but it does not crack or become brittle.

  Their words, not mine.

   

  They think we are good to 5+ years on this.  

   

  From: Ken Hohhof 

  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:02 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

   

  Do you have a black Hefty bag version for areas with icing?

   

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 

  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:00 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

   

  To keep all  your computing safe and without virus’

   

  From: Josh Luthman 

  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 1:55 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

   

  ...let's stick with condom...

   

   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
wrote:

I am not sure about 'condom' maybe 'diaphragm'   :)

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

 




  From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:38:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leaking possible new product

   

   

  You can call it the Cambium Condom.

   

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I like it! I'm guessing this is going to be relatively cheap?

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:28 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Should be good for 5+ years.  Depends on the base material.

 

   

 

   

   




Re: [AFMUG] NBE wallmount kit?

2015-07-17 Thread Jason McKemie
The mount has two screws of its own, but the actual radio is still held by
the single screw down the center, so yes.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Is the mount still held entirely by the screw down the center, and all
 the WMK does is keep it from rotating?

  *From:* Jason McKemie
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 12:26 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NBE wallmount kit?

 I've done it both ways, the wall mount kit does make me feel a bit better
 about it not rotating.

 On Friday, July 17, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com'); wrote:

 Has anyone been mounting NBE-5-16/19 Skittles directly to walls?
 Either with a single long screw as described in the instructions, or with
 the wallmount kit NBE-WMK?  Some of our distributors carry the WMK but not
 our local one.

 Do either of these methods work well?  The single screw seems dubious to
 me. I haven't seen a WMK to evaluate.  Is everyone just putting them on
 something like a J-pipe?  Seems a bit like overkill.




Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Stewart
If you have one of these in Ontario, Canada at some point I might be
interested FYI..

 

Paul

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

 

While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course,
we'll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is
expected to attend.

 

There is no cost for this one day event. It'll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

 

We look forward to seeing you there.

 

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

 

Patrick Leary

Director, Business Development

Telrad

727-501-3735

 













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Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really
kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of
leads. Not looking that way.

Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections
 off the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is
 probably near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year
 same as us, so the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches
 per day.

 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to
 see if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just
 slide it up and down.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about
 june 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs
 facing south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread SmarterBroadband
West Coast would be good.  Sacramento, San Francisco, Salt Lake City even Vegas?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

 

Not so unlikely as you might think.

 

Patrick Leary, Telrad

727-501-3735

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

 

If you have one of these in Hawaii I'll go ;-)

 

Actually Denver or San Diego would work.

 

-sean

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by 
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a 
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them 
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a 
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business 
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course, 
we’ll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest 
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is 
expected to attend.

 

There is no cost for this one day event. It’ll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

 

We look forward to seeing you there.

 

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

 

Patrick Leary

Director, Business Development

Telrad

727-501-3735

 











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Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I suspect the real issue is the 45lbs of mosquitos per cubic foot in the LOS 
path.

Can someone in California send me a couple of extra quarts of blood?  Er, wait 
- let’s leave out California...

Mark


 On Jul 17, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 
 Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
 field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
 max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
 crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.
  
 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
 if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are 
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.
  
 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
 it up and down.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing 
 south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade
  
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent domain 
to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am thinking Judge 
Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, the crops are 
resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That might work on the 
trees, too.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really kind 
of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of leads. Not 
looking that way. 

Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

  Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

  Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

  Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
it up and down.


  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit
because our logo is orange

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use
 eminent domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.
 I am thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.
 Wait, the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent
 Orange.  That might work on the trees, too.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was
 really kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch
 of leads. Not looking that way.

 Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections
 off the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is
 probably near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year
 same as us, so the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches
 per day.

 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to
 see if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just
 slide it up and down.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about
 june 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs
 facing south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Heskett
Howz about steamboat springs, CO ;-)

On Friday, July 17, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com
wrote:

 West Coast would be good.  Sacramento, San Francisco, Salt Lake City even
 Vegas?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Patrick
 Leary
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 11:35 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11



 Not so unlikely as you might think.



 Patrick Leary, Telrad

 727-501-3735



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Sean
 Heskett
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 2:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11



 If you have one of these in Hawaii I'll go ;-)



 Actually Denver or San Diego would work.



 -sean

 On Friday, July 17, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrick.le...@telrad.com'); wrote:

 While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by
 registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a
 session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them
 conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a
 working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business
 modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of
 course, we’ll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the
 latest information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our
 CEO is expected to attend.



 There is no cost for this one day event. It’ll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.



 We look forward to seeing you there.



 http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/



 Patrick Leary

 Director, Business Development

 Telrad

 727-501-3735











 
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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.


From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.

Mark

  On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:

  I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

  On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I may retire the HoHo’s.  




http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633



Rory



Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net



“Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but 
the triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson





Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Sean Heskett
If you have one of these in Hawaii I'll go ;-)

Actually Denver or San Diego would work.

-sean

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

  While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by
 registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a
 session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them
 conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a
 working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business
 modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of
 course, we’ll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the
 latest information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our
 CEO is expected to attend.



 There is no cost for this one day event. It’ll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.



 We look forward to seeing you there.



 http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/



 Patrick Leary

 Director, Business Development

 Telrad

 727-501-3735













 
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Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Leary
Not so unlikely as you might think.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

If you have one of these in Hawaii I'll go ;-)

Actually Denver or San Diego would work.

-sean

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Patrick Leary 
patrick.le...@telrad.commailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:
While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by 
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a 
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them 
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a 
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business 
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course, 
we’ll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest 
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is 
expected to attend.

There is no cost for this one day event. It’ll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

Patrick Leary
Director, Business Development
Telrad
727-501-3735










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Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Leary
We will Paul. Sooner rather than later. I'll keep you posted.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

If you have one of these in Ontario, Canada at some point I might be interested 
FYI

Paul


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by 
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a 
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them 
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a 
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business 
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course, 
we'll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest 
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is 
expected to attend.

There is no cost for this one day event. It'll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

Patrick Leary
Director, Business Development
Telrad
727-501-3735









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[AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing
south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see if 
there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
it up and down.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 16, 
im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Need the Wagner music too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QzJKCUekQ


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit because 
our logo is orange

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

  Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent 
domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am 
thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, the 
crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That might 
work on the trees, too.


  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

  Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really 
kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of leads. 
Not looking that way. 

  Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats

  On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off 
the field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably 
near max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so 
the crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.

Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are talking 
about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.

Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just 
slide it up and down.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade

Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing south, 
though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Bill Prince

I've seen a fair bit of the midnight chainsaw blight..

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 7/17/2015 12:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use 
eminent domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the 
signal.  I am thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full 
of Roundup.  Wait, the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone 
with Agent Orange.  That might work on the trees, too.




Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Leary
They just did Durango, CO.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

Howz about steamboat springs, CO ;-)

On Friday, July 17, 2015, SmarterBroadband 
li...@smarterbroadband.commailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:
West Coast would be good.  Sacramento, San Francisco, Salt Lake City even Vegas?

From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');]
 On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

Not so unlikely as you might think.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');]
 On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Formal Dallas Seminar Invitation - August 11

If you have one of these in Hawaii I'll go ;-)

Actually Denver or San Diego would work.

-sean

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Patrick Leary 
patrick.le...@telrad.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrick.le...@telrad.com');
 wrote:
While I have a number of you with slots held, please formalize it by 
registering here. I expect it to run until about 5PM. This will include a 
session about available 2.5 GHz licenses and the process for getting them 
conducted in person by Bob Finch. We also plan on doing a site visit to a 
working LTE customer site. Added to this seminar will also be some business 
modeling tools fleshed out with help of actual scaled WISPs. And, of course, 
we’ll have some technical content on the COMPACT LTE with the latest 
information. Another thing that makes this one special is that our CEO is 
expected to attend.

There is no cost for this one day event. It’ll run from about 10:30AM-5PM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.telrad.com/seminar-dallas/

Patrick Leary
Director, Business Development
Telrad
727-501-3735








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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Now you’ve ruined my whole day.  I’m still recovering from Jack-In-The-Box 
discontinuing the Bacon-Vanilla shake.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the 
marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, 
and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.)

I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it 
tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts 
and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they 
would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle.
On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.


From: Mark Radabaughmailto:m...@amplex.net
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.

Mark

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
I may retire the HoHo’s.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/

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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Simon Westlake
They'd be better off buying up all the bacon manufacturers and making 
bacon taste like seaweed.


On 7/17/2015 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Probably a beta release.  I’m sure the release candidate will taste 
just like bacon.

*From:* Simon Westlake mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 3:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes 
like bacon
I read about this last night and there were comments from people that 
had the marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very 
good marketer, and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the 
fact that it is salty.)


I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they 
say 'it tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix 
it with peanuts and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it 
tasted like bacon, they would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix 
it into peanut brittle.


On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it 
would be thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  
Sounds yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.
Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese. So we could have vegan 
bacon cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at 
Wendy’s.  They look very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.

*From:* Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net
*Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes 
like bacon
Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy 
greasy stuff.

Mark
On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I may retire the HoHo’s.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

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Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues

2015-07-17 Thread Charlie Galik
Hey AF,

Yes, correct there are no FSK RF changes, just an accidental Frame Calculator 
Web Page change. I have found the bug and this will be fixed in 13.4.1. Sorry 
about this accidental change.

For those that want more information: The AP starts actually receiving 
immediately before the “Max Range” time is allocated in the frame, for SMs that 
are at the max distance away. Even though the data from the SM’s won’t appear 
until later in the frame, this allows the AP to receive registration requests 
from SM’s that don’t know how far away they are.  In 13.3/13.4 the frame 
calculator page was accidentally changed to show this time. In 13.4.1 it will 
go back to the old time and be “AP Receive Data Start”. This extra time that 
was included in 13.3/13.4 does not need to be sync’d, so the bigger number can 
be used.  So use a 13.1.3 frame calculator page in the meantime. George, you 
were exactly right.

Craig, Thanks for pointing this out. Sorry for the delay, but I wanted to find 
the bug before I could answer with 100% certainty.

Ken, to answer your question I was in there changing code in 13.3 to be able to 
sync 5 ms frame with PMP 320 product. I enhanced the Frame Calculator Tool for 
OFDM to show what the times are for the antenna port of the radio, so more 
exact synchronizing could be done. There’s good parts and bad parts to having a 
common code base, and this is one of the bad parts. ☺

I would turn around and say where was our beta testers?!? We had a beta open 
for months! ☺ 13.4.1 beta anyone? ☺

Apologies again and we appreciate you guys and we appreciate your feedback.

Enjoy your day,

Charlie Galik
Principle Staff Software Engineer
Cambium Networks
Community Forumhttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 8:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues

Can you tell I was a HW engineer?  And then a PHB*?  Software was just a SMOP**.
Everything is easy when someone else has to do it.
And mistakes are obvious once someone has pointed them out.

--
* Pointy Haired Boss
** Small Matter Of Programming


From: Matt Mangriotismailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:01 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues

Oh Ken… you think this is so easy.
☺

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:43 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues

Why was someone even in there changing code?  And whatever happened to 
automated regression testing?

From: George Skorupmailto:geo...@cbcast.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:21 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues

I updated a 900 AP. Looking at /engineering.cgi on this 13.4 AP and a 13.1.3 
AP, the current frame configuration matches. The frame calculator is definitely 
broken. I see what the difference is now. The new calculator shows max range 
air delay as one-way, while the previous calculator shows round-trip air delay. 
Somebody forgot to do math somewhere. So the new calculator needs one-way air 
delay added to the AP's Rx Start value. Not the end of the world, but yes, 
confusing.
On 7/15/2015 5:04 PM, George Skorup wrote:
My guess is it's just the calculator page code that got mucked up, not the 
actual running RF operation/framing.

Go to one AP that is on 13.1.3 and another that's on 13.4. Log in and change 
the URL to /engineering.cgi and look at the Current Frame Configuration on 
both radios. They should match. If they don't then... uh oh. I don't have 
enough stuff updated yet to do this myself.
On 7/15/2015 3:47 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:
This case has now been sent up to upper level engineers.� I guess this might 
be a huge bug, no one can still tell me what calculator is the correct value or 
if the new software is even running the right time when you upgrade.� I would 
be careful upgrading radios if you need to time your 100 and 450 together until 
this gets resolved.��
�
Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 6:13 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 pmp450 sync calculator issues
�
WTF. So is it the new one or the old one that's wrong?

I just ran your dimensions on a 450 AP running 13.2.1. I got the same as your 
FSK on 13.1.3. Apparently something changed after 13.2/.1.
On 7/9/2015 2:34 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:
So I have a ticket open with cambium on this issue.� Have you guys noticed 
the fsk calculator on pmp100 radios with software 13.1.3 and lower give you 
different results than the fsk calculator on a 450 radio running 13.3?
I 

Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Did you contact their tech support?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

What is even more strange, is I seem to have exactly a 3mbps per tcp connection 
limit, when doing btest, I can get 3mbps @ 1 connection, 30 @ 10, 60 @ 20, 120 
@ 40, etc... Anyone ever seen this?



On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout 
t...@voltbb.commailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote:
The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the other 
direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks they were 
always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the radio!

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout 
t...@voltbb.commailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote:
I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported 500mbps 
mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test as well as 
btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was great until I 
upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem where the radios 
Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when doing btest between two 
CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.

Any ideas?




Re: [AFMUG] Af Digest, Vol 11, Issue 418

2015-07-17 Thread Chris Trout
For the TCP problem, we need more isolation testing to eliminate external path 
infrastructure, and we’ll work to replicate the problem here on our side with 
the same iperf commands when we receive them from you off list. This is not a 
known bug with any software version.


Cheers!
Chris Trout
Mimosa Networks






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Today's Topics:

   1. Cambium 13.4 (Matt Hopkins)
   2. Re: UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad? (TJ Trout)
   3. Re: Cambium 13.4 (George Skorup)
   4. Re: Cambium 13.4 (George Skorup)
   5. Re: UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad? (Rory Conaway)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:59:22 -0700
From: Matt Hopkins mhopk...@onlinenw.com
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4
Message-ID: 55a988ca.7070...@onlinenw.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; Format=flowed

I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in the 
AP even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the 
table and it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened 
on a 2.4 450 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to 
matter as some of the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. 
Traffic would not pass over the SM and if they had an additional VC for 
voice it wouldn't ever establish. I also saw that overall signal levels 
of SMs were 5 db (give or take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems 
that Lite APs (-APL) are not letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any 
other version for that matter. I am glad I only upgraded a handful of 
APs because I'm excited for the new CoA feature.
-- 

Matt Hopkins

Network Administrator

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:19:41 -0700
From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?
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yes but didn't make any progress
On Jul 17, 2015 3:56 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  Did you contact their tech support?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 3:40 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?



 What is even more strange, is I seem to have exactly a 3mbps per tcp
 connection limit, when doing btest, I can get 3mbps @ 1 connection, 30 @
 10, 60 @ 20, 120 @ 40, etc... Anyone ever seen this?







 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the
 other direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks
 they were always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the
 radio!



 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

   I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported
 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test
 as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was
 great until I upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem
 where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when
 doing btest between two CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!



 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.



 Any ideas?





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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:33:27 -0500
From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4
Message-ID: 55a990c7.3020...@cbcast.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; Format=flowed

I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. 
They all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are 
you also sure it's not a browser cache issue?

Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made

Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread George Skorup
What about pause frames? Are you getting any Rx or Tx pause frame counts 
on any interfaces?


On 7/18/2015 12:19 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
Even if I'm seeing full speeds in UDP? I checked both radios and both 
routers and they all say 1gbps full duplex


On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com 
mailto:but...@butchevans.com wrote:


On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 22:23 +, TJ Trout wrote:
 I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago
 reported 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios
 internal speed test as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP
 and UDP, everything was great until I upgraded to beta software
and I
 started seeing a problem where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all
 the same as prior but when doing btest between two CCR's I can get
 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same
problem.

 Any ideas?

The most common cause of this sort of symptom is a speed/duplex
mismatch on an ethernet port.  Check them all (both sides of each
link)
until you verify this is not the issue.

--
Butch Evans
Training and Support for WISPs
702-537-0979 tel:702-537-0979
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/






[AFMUG] Chicago says good bye to Motorola

2015-07-17 Thread Josh Luthman
No mention of Cambium.  Just talking batwings here.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/section/goodbye-moto

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Do you use RADIUS?I have seen that before with RADIUS but have not seen it 
to date on the 13.4 units we are running, but we don’t run RADIUS 
authentication currently

Mark


 On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Hopkins mhopk...@onlinenw.com wrote:
 
 This was not a browser cache issue. The APs that had the Registering issue 
 had anywhere from 9-65 SMs. Cambium support advised me to downgrade to 13.2.1 
 and said that it was a known issue.
 Matt Hopkins
 OnlineNW Support
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com mailto:supp...@onlinenw.com 
 http://onlinenw.com/onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com/
 On 7/17/2015 4:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:
 Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.
 
 On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
 I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. They 
 all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are you also 
 sure it's not a browser cache issue?
 
 Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
 available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.
 
 On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
 I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
 happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in the AP 
 even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the table and 
 it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened on a 2.4 450 
 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to matter as some of 
 the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. Traffic would not pass 
 over the SM and if they had an additional VC for voice it wouldn't ever 
 establish. I also saw that overall signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or 
 take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not 
 letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am 
 glad I only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
 feature.
 -- 
 Matt Hopkins
 Network Administrator
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com mailto:supp...@onlinenw.com 
 http://onlinenw.com/onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com/
 
 



Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 22:23 +, TJ Trout wrote:
 I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago 
 reported 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios 
 internal speed test as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP 
 and UDP, everything was great until I upgraded to beta software and I 
 started seeing a problem where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all 
 the same as prior but when doing btest between two CCR's I can get 
 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!
 
 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.
 
 Any ideas?

The most common cause of this sort of symptom is a speed/duplex
mismatch on an ethernet port.  Check them all (both sides of each link)
until you verify this is not the issue.

-- 
Butch Evans
Training and Support for WISPs
702-537-0979
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/


Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread TJ Trout
Even if I'm seeing full speeds in UDP? I checked both radios and both
routers and they all say 1gbps full duplex

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 22:23 +, TJ Trout wrote:
  I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago
  reported 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios
  internal speed test as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP
  and UDP, everything was great until I upgraded to beta software and I
  started seeing a problem where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all
  the same as prior but when doing btest between two CCR's I can get
  500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!
 
  I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.
 
  Any ideas?

 The most common cause of this sort of symptom is a speed/duplex
 mismatch on an ethernet port.  Check them all (both sides of each link)
 until you verify this is not the issue.

 --
 Butch Evans
 Training and Support for WISPs
 702-537-0979
 http://store.wispgear.net/
 http://www.butchevans.com/



Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Leary
At COSTCO you can buy packets of dried seaweed. They come in parchment-like 
form, about 2”x 4”. They are surprisingly tasty. BUT, your pets will go nuts 
for them. My Aussie and Weimaraner pooches will eat anything gently from my 
fingers….except these. They’ll damn near take off my hand for these. Oddly, my 
kids are the same, even my picky 9 year old son.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the 
marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, 
and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.)

I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it 
tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts 
and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they 
would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle.
On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.


From: Mark Radabaughmailto:m...@amplex.net
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.

Mark

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
I may retire the HoHo’s.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Simon Westlake
Yeah, my kids pound through that seaweed like it's candy. We buy a 
metric ton of it.


On 7/17/2015 3:22 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:


At COSTCO you can buy packets of dried seaweed. They come in 
parchment-like form, about 2”x 4”. They are surprisingly tasty. BUT, 
your pets will go nuts for them. My Aussie and Weimaraner pooches will 
eat anything gently from my fingers….except these. They’ll damn near 
take off my hand for these. Oddly, my kids are the same, even my picky 
9 year old son.


Patrick Leary, Telrad

727-501-3735

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes 
like bacon


I read about this last night and there were comments from people that 
had the marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very 
good marketer, and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the 
fact that it is salty.)


I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they 
say 'it tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix 
it with peanuts and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it 
tasted like bacon, they would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix 
it into peanut brittle.


On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it
would be thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy. 
Sounds yummy.


And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have
vegan bacon cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries
at Wendy’s.  They look very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a
Frosty.

*From:*Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net

*Sent:*Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes
like bacon

Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely
soggy greasy stuff.

Mark

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

I may retire the HoHo’s.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

*Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

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[AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread TJ Trout
I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported
500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test
as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was
great until I upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem
where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when
doing btest between two CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.

Any ideas?


Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread TJ Trout
What is even more strange, is I seem to have exactly a 3mbps per tcp
connection limit, when doing btest, I can get 3mbps @ 1 connection, 30 @
10, 60 @ 20, 120 @ 40, etc... Anyone ever seen this?



On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the
 other direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks
 they were always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the
 radio!

 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported
 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test
 as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was
 great until I upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem
 where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when
 doing btest between two CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.

 Any ideas?





Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread George Skorup
I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. 
They all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are 
you also sure it's not a browser cache issue?


Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.


On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in 
the AP even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in 
the table and it would take you to the SM like normal still. This 
happened on a 2.4 450 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't 
seem to matter as some of the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 
SNR. Traffic would not pass over the SM and if they had an additional 
VC for voice it wouldn't ever establish. I also saw that overall 
signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or take) worse on 13.4. 
Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not letting me roll 
back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am glad I only 
upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA feature.

--

Matt Hopkins

Network Administrator

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com





Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread TJ Trout
The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the
other direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks
they were always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the
radio!

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported
 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test
 as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was
 great until I upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem
 where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when
 doing btest between two CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.

 Any ideas?



Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Which Homer?  Greek or American
On Jul 17, 2015 10:55 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   See, Homer was right, bacon is a vegetable.

  *From:* Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 11:37 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon


 I may retire the HoHo’s.




 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633



 Rory



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 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

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[AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread Matt Hopkins
I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in the 
AP even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the 
table and it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened 
on a 2.4 450 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to 
matter as some of the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. 
Traffic would not pass over the SM and if they had an additional VC for 
voice it wouldn't ever establish. I also saw that overall signal levels 
of SMs were 5 db (give or take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems 
that Lite APs (-APL) are not letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any 
other version for that matter. I am glad I only upgraded a handful of 
APs because I'm excited for the new CoA feature.

--

Matt Hopkins

Network Administrator

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com



Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread TJ Trout
yes but didn't make any progress
On Jul 17, 2015 3:56 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  Did you contact their tech support?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
 *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 3:40 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?



 What is even more strange, is I seem to have exactly a 3mbps per tcp
 connection limit, when doing btest, I can get 3mbps @ 1 connection, 30 @
 10, 60 @ 20, 120 @ 40, etc... Anyone ever seen this?







 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the
 other direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks
 they were always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the
 radio!



 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

   I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported
 500mbps mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test
 as well as btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was
 great until I upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem
 where the radios Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when
 doing btest between two CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!



 I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.



 Any ideas?







Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread George Skorup

Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.

On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. 
They all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are 
you also sure it's not a browser cache issue?


Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.


On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in 
the AP even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in 
the table and it would take you to the SM like normal still. This 
happened on a 2.4 450 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't 
seem to matter as some of the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 
SNR. Traffic would not pass over the SM and if they had an additional 
VC for voice it wouldn't ever establish. I also saw that overall 
signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or take) worse on 13.4. 
Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not letting me roll 
back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am glad I 
only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
feature.

--

Matt Hopkins

Network Administrator

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com







Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

2015-07-17 Thread Rory Conaway
We ran into a similar problem on a unit that had been running for a couple 
months.  Make a couple changes and whammo, similar problem.  Rebooted, problem 
went away and I haven’t seen it since.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?


yes but didn't make any progress
On Jul 17, 2015 3:56 PM, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
Did you contact their tech support?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UDP throughput is fine, TCP is bad?

What is even more strange, is I seem to have exactly a 3mbps per tcp connection 
limit, when doing btest, I can get 3mbps @ 1 connection, 30 @ 10, 60 @ 20, 120 
@ 40, etc... Anyone ever seen this?



On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout 
t...@voltbb.commailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote:
The radios are set 75/25, one direction I can do ~450udp and ~40tcp, the other 
direction I can do ~120 udp and ~100 tcp, what gives? For 3 weeks they were 
always the same TCP/UDP it's almost like the firmware damaged the radio!

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, TJ Trout 
t...@voltbb.commailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote:
I have a set of Mimosa radios that when installed 3 weeks ago reported 500mbps 
mac rate and that was confirmed with the radios internal speed test as well as 
btest between two CCR's in both TCP and UDP, everything was great until I 
upgraded to beta software and I started seeing a problem where the radios 
Phy/Mac/Speed test are all the same as prior but when doing btest between two 
CCR's I can get 500 udp but only about 5-40 tcp!

I promptly downgraded software and I'm still seeing the same problem.

Any ideas?




Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread Matt Hopkins
This was not a browser cache issue. The APs that had the Registering 
issue had anywhere from 9-65 SMs. Cambium support advised me to 
downgrade to 13.2.1 and said that it was a known issue.


Matt Hopkins

OnlineNW Support

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com

On 7/17/2015 4:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.

On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. 
They all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? 
Are you also sure it's not a browser cache issue?


Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't 
made available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.


On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What 
is happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering 
in the AP even after they are registered. You could click on the SM 
in the table and it would take you to the SM like normal still. This 
happened on a 2.4 450 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't 
seem to matter as some of the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 
SNR. Traffic would not pass over the SM and if they had an 
additional VC for voice it wouldn't ever establish. I also saw that 
overall signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or take) worse on 13.4. 
Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not letting me roll 
back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am glad I 
only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
feature.

--

Matt Hopkins

Network Administrator

503.687.1030

supp...@onlinenw.com

http://onlinenw.com

onlinenw.com http://onlinenw.com









Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

2015-07-17 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc
Seen it brother.  We downgraded 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Hopkins mhopk...@onlinenw.com wrote:
 
 This was not a browser cache issue. The APs that had the Registering issue 
 had anywhere from 9-65 SMs. Cambium support advised me to downgrade to 13.2.1 
 and said that it was a known issue.
 Matt Hopkins
 OnlineNW Support
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com
 onlinenw.com
 On 7/17/2015 4:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:
 Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.
 
 On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
 I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. They 
 all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are you also 
 sure it's not a browser cache issue?
 
 Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
 available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.
 
 On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
 I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
 happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as registering in the AP 
 even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the table and 
 it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened on a 2.4 450 
 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to matter as some of 
 the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. Traffic would not pass 
 over the SM and if they had an additional VC for voice it wouldn't ever 
 establish. I also saw that overall signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or 
 take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not 
 letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am 
 glad I only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
 feature.
 -- 
 Matt Hopkins
 Network Administrator
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com
 onlinenw.com
 


Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel White
My kids love it too



Thank you,



Daniel White

 mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
Social:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn:  
https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon



At COSTCO you can buy packets of dried seaweed. They come in parchment-like 
form, about 2”x 4”. They are surprisingly tasty. BUT, your pets will go nuts 
for them. My Aussie and Weimaraner pooches will eat anything gently from my 
fingers….except these. They’ll damn near take off my hand for these. Oddly, my 
kids are the same, even my picky 9 year old son.



Patrick Leary, Telrad

727-501-3735



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon



I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the 
marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, 
and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.)

I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it 
tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts 
and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they 
would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle.

On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.



And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.



Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.





From: Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon



Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.



Mark



On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com  wrote:



I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net  wrote:

I may retire the HoHo’s.



http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6 
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633 
objectid=11482633



Rory



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Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Probably a beta release.  I’m sure the release candidate will taste just like 
bacon.

From: Simon Westlake 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the 
marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, 
and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.)

I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it 
tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts 
and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they 
would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle.


On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.

  And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

  Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.


  From: Mark Radabaugh 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

  Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.

  Mark

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  I may retire the HoHo’s.  



  
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633



  Rory



  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net



  “Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace 
but the triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson







Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Unless there is a security issue ☺

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

Probably a beta release.  I’m sure the release candidate will taste just like 
bacon.

From: Simon Westlakemailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:10 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the 
marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, 
and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.)

I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it 
tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts 
and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they 
would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle.
On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be 
thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.

Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan bacon 
cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s.  They look 
very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.


From: Mark Radabaughmailto:m...@amplex.net
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy 
stuff.

Mark

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
I may retire the HoHo’s.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/

“Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the 
triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson





Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon

2015-07-17 Thread Simon Westlake
I read about this last night and there were comments from people that 
had the marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very 
good marketer, and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the 
fact that it is salty.)


I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 
'it tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it 
with peanuts and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted 
like bacon, they would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into 
peanut brittle.


On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it 
would be thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy.  Sounds 
yummy.

And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon.
Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese.  So we could have vegan 
bacon cheese fries.  I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at 
Wendy’s.  They look very unhealthy.  And tasty.  Maybe with a Frosty.

*From:* Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net
*Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes 
like bacon
Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy 
greasy stuff.

Mark
On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

I can't imagine the texture is there, however.

On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:


I may retire the HoHo’s.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633

Rory

*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');*

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**

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Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Petermann
A drone with a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Im down with drones filled with agent orange. It makes it totally legit 
 because our logo is orange
 
 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 Internet is a basic human right now, so we should be able to use eminent 
 domain to condemn trees and crops that interfere with the signal.  I am 
 thinking Judge Dredd with a chainsaw and a sprayer full of Roundup.  Wait, 
 the crops are resistant to Roundup.  Maybe a drone with Agent Orange.  That 
 might work on the trees, too.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:54 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Ive got a guy at the AP right now verifying the connections, I was really 
 kind of hoping in the back of my mind we had just gotten a bad batch of 
 leads. Not looking that way.
  
 Our corn is hydroponic this year, farmers will be harvesting from boats
  
 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 Probably the same thing we’ve been dealing with in 5 GHz, reflections off the 
 field corn.  In our area the corn is starting to tassel and is probably near 
 max height.  I assume you have had tons of rain this year same as us, so the 
 crops are very juicy, and also have been growing inches per day.
  
 Try sending a guy out and moving the SM up and down +/- about 2 feet to see 
 if there is a sweet spot that gets you back your 20 dB.  Unless you are 
 talking about fades that only happen at sunup/sundown.
  
 Easiest at a location where the SM is mounted on a pole so you can just slide 
 it up and down.
  
  
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:20 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] 320 fade
  
 Is anybody else seeing an insane amount of fade on 320 APs since about june 
 16, im in central illinois, seeing it particularly strong on APs facing 
 south, though I dont know if that matters, we are talking 20db fade
  
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