[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110
I just put together my first Force 110... definitely a huge improvement over the 100, it's still not quite as simple as throwing together a Nano/PowerBeam, but not bad at all, I think it's actually easier to put together than a NanoBridge... and the fact that I didn't look at the instructions until I was done is a good sign. I'm not sure how much I like the crazy wire thing on the front, but I can live with that, and otherwise, it seems like a pretty good design. The fact that they used carriage bolts for the pole mount instead of a u-bolt makes me very happy... I suspect we're going to be putting a lot of these things up on towers for PtP links. One question... are these dual slant or Horizontal/Vertical polarity? I know it doesn't really matter much for ePMP, but since they are connectorized, it's likely they'll get used with other radios at some point.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110
I told them to make a snap-on radome with the sub-reflector integrated into it. That would provide less wind load and keep ice off of the feedhorn, plus speed up assembly. I'm not sure what the polarization is. I thought the Force100 was -/+45, so the 110 is probably the same, but there's no way to tell. On 12/8/2014 11:46 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: I just put together my first Force 110... definitely a huge improvement over the 100, it's still not quite as simple as throwing together a Nano/PowerBeam, but not bad at all, I think it's actually easier to put together than a NanoBridge... and the fact that I didn't look at the instructions until I was done is a good sign. I'm not sure how much I like the crazy wire thing on the front, but I can live with that, and otherwise, it seems like a pretty good design. The fact that they used carriage bolts for the pole mount instead of a u-bolt makes me very happy... I suspect we're going to be putting a lot of these things up on towers for PtP links. One question... are these dual slant or Horizontal/Vertical polarity? I know it doesn't really matter much for ePMP, but since they are connectorized, it's likely they'll get used with other radios at some point.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110
A radome would be nice, I hope they do come out with one. The Force100 was definitely slant, so yeah, I'm guessing these are too... but there's no way to tell by looking at them, as far as I can see. I guess it doesn't really matter a whole lot. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 I told them to make a snap-on radome with the sub-reflector integrated into it. That would provide less wind load and keep ice off of the feedhorn, plus speed up assembly. I'm not sure what the polarization is. I thought the Force100 was -/+45, so the 110 is probably the same, but there's no way to tell. On 12/8/2014 11:46 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: I just put together my first Force 110... definitely a huge improvement over the 100, it's still not quite as simple as throwing together a Nano/PowerBeam, but not bad at all, I think it's actually easier to put together than a NanoBridge... and the fact that I didn't look at the instructions until I was done is a good sign. I'm not sure how much I like the crazy wire thing on the front, but I can live with that, and otherwise, it seems like a pretty good design. The fact that they used carriage bolts for the pole mount instead of a u-bolt makes me very happy... I suspect we're going to be putting a lot of these things up on towers for PtP links. One question... are these dual slant or Horizontal/Vertical polarity? I know it doesn't really matter much for ePMP, but since they are connectorized, it's likely they'll get used with other radios at some point.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110
Hi, The Force 110 is a Horizontal Vertical. Dan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard via Af Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 A radome would be nice, I hope they do come out with one. The Force100 was definitely slant, so yeah, I'm guessing these are too... but there's no way to tell by looking at them, as far as I can see. I guess it doesn't really matter a whole lot. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 I told them to make a snap-on radome with the sub-reflector integrated into it. That would provide less wind load and keep ice off of the feedhorn, plus speed up assembly. I'm not sure what the polarization is. I thought the Force100 was -/+45, so the 110 is probably the same, but there's no way to tell. On 12/8/2014 11:46 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: I just put together my first Force 110... definitely a huge improvement over the 100, it's still not quite as simple as throwing together a Nano/PowerBeam, but not bad at all, I think it's actually easier to put together than a NanoBridge... and the fact that I didn't look at the instructions until I was done is a good sign. I'm not sure how much I like the crazy wire thing on the front, but I can live with that, and otherwise, it seems like a pretty good design. The fact that they used carriage bolts for the pole mount instead of a u-bolt makes me very happy... I suspect we're going to be putting a lot of these things up on towers for PtP links. One question... are these dual slant or Horizontal/Vertical polarity? I know it doesn't really matter much for ePMP, but since they are connectorized, it's likely they'll get used with other radios at some point.
[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
[AFMUG] EPMP force 110 installation
My guys assembled the Force 110 dishes and promptly threw away the instructions. I'm trying to hook up the radio now, which coax is connected to which lead on the radio? There is the black banded coax, and the grey banded coax. The cambium site is being less than usefull as it keeps requesting me to enter all info for marketing, even though I'm logged in. Google isn't being much help either.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
It's expected, yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Matt wrote: > Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
> It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yes. It's the AP hardware. Just a software tick disabling sync right now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2015 1:30 PM, "Matt" wrote: > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt wrote: > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the > Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks > Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > > > > Thanks, > > Sriram > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the > exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even > comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for > point-to-point. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > wrote: > > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync > capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a > software license. > > > > Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that > you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder > your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. > > > > "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the > Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks > Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > > > > Thanks, > > Sriram > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the > exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even > comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for > point-to-point. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > wrote: > > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
<mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with
sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of
sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I
don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never
enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP
sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d
radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110
PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE
port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to
disable sync functionality. The radio will still track
satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP,
the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does
have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has
it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has
stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware
update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler < john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to > enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – > that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to > enable that. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > (Cyber Broadcasting) > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Dude, for real, more licensing? > > On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync > capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a > software license. > > > > Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that > you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder > your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. > > > > "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the > Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks > Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > > > > Thanks, > > Sriram > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the > exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even > comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for > point-to-point. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > wrote: > > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Yes!! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler < > john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > >> The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you >> to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – >> that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to >> enable that. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup >> (Cyber Broadcasting) >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> Dude, for real, more licensing? >> >> On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >> >> No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync >> capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a >> software license. >> >> >> >> Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that >> you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder >> your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. >> >> >> >> "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >> >> Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio >> (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the >> Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS >> chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks >> Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The >> radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not >> allow sync. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sriram >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is >> the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even >> comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in >> software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for >> point-to-point. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt >> wrote: >> >> > It's expected, yes. >> >> Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> >> >> >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for >> frequency >> >> reuse? >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Do I have to put away my pitchfork?
bp
On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Yes!!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will
not need to purchase a license key to enable that.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to
Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to
allow enabling of sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports).
The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio
with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a
PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced
AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the
GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled
in software, but Cambium has stated that they are
planning to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary.
Do I have to put away my pitchfork?
bp
On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Yes!!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will
not need to purchase a license key to enable that.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to
Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to
allow enabling of sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet
ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and
GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not
a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the
synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync
disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that
they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler wrote: > The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to > enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – > that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to > enable that. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *George > Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Dude, for real, more licensing? > > On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com > > > wrote: > > No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync > capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a > software license. > > > > Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that > you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder > your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. > > > > "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com > > > wrote: > > Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the > Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks > Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > > > > Thanks, > > Sriram > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Mathew > Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the > exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even > comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for > point-to-point. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > wrote: > > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > ePMP Force 110 - Montagem <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4> > > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt wrote: > Any guess on latency when in this mode? > > > On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler > wrote: > >> The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you >> to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – >> that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to >> enable that. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup >> (Cyber Broadcasting) >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> Dude, for real, more licensing? >> >> On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >> >> No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync >> capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a >> software license. >> >> >> >> Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that >> you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder >> your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. >> >> >> >> "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >> >> Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio >> (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the >> Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS >> chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks >> Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The >> radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not >> allow sync. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sriram >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >> >> >> >> That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is >> the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even >> comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in >> software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for >> point-to-point. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt >> wrote: >> >> > It's expected, yes. >> >> Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. >> >> ePMP Force 110 - Montagem <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for >> frequency >> >> reuse? >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt wrote: > >> Any guess on latency when in this mode? >> >> >> On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler >> wrote: >> >>> The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you >>> to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – >>> that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to >>> enable that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup >>> (Cyber Broadcasting) >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>> >>> >>> >>> Dude, for real, more licensing? >>> >>> On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >>> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >>> >>> No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync >>> capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a >>> software license. >>> >>> >>> >>> Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that >>> you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder >>> your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < >>> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >>> >>> Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio >>> (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the >>> Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS >>> chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks >>> Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. >>> The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not >>> allow sync. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Sriram >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>> >>> >>> >>> That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is >>> the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even >>> comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in >>> software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for >>> point-to-point. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt >>> wrote: >>> >>> > It's expected, yes. >>> >>> Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. >>> >>> ePMP Force 110 - Montagem <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for >>> frequency >>> >> reuse? >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Matt is correct about the latency. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4> >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
I believe Cambium confirmed that on here less than a week ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:43:54 AM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
But still so fun... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 2:48:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary. Do I have to put away my pitchfork? bp On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler < john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com > wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com > wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com > wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J ) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt < matt.mailingli...@gmail.com > wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
> That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same > is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. > But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame > size is available. What is frame size now? > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: >> >> The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt wrote: >>> >>> Any guess on latency when in this mode? >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to >>>> enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – >>>> that >>>> is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to >>>> enable that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber >>>> Broadcasting) >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dude, for real, more licensing? >>>> >>>> On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync >>>> capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a >>>> software license. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that >>>> you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder >>>> your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio >>>> (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the >>>> Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS >>>> chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks >>>> Josh. >>>> I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio >>>> will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow >>>> sync. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Sriram >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM >>>> To: af >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is >>>> the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even >>>> comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in >>>> software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for >>>> point-to-point. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > It's expected, yes. >>>> >>>> Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. >>>> >>>> ePMP Force 110 - Montagem >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for >>>> >> frequency >>>> >> reuse? >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
So uh did no one else notice they put the Cambium logo on wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Matt wrote: > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
We will get sync over power too, right?
On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you
to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP
configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to
purchase a license key to enable that.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with
sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of
sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand
that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why
you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP
sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d
radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110
PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE
port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to
disable sync functionality. The radio will still track
satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP,
the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does
have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has
it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has
stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware
update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yup Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > We will get sync over power too, right? > > On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: > > The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to > enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – > that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to > enable that. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Dude, for real, more licensing? > > On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync > capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a > software license. > > > > Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that > you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder > your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. > > > > "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < > sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the > Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks > Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > > > > Thanks, > > Sriram > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > > > > That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the > exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even > comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for > point-to-point. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > wrote: > > > It's expected, yes. > > Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 > > > >> > >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency > >> reuse? > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
We'll see. I'll put my pitchfork down.. for now.
On 3/16/2015 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Yup
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
We will get sync over power too, right?
On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow
you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP
configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to
purchase a license key to enable that.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George
Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today
with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow
enabling of sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I
don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by
never enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable
PTP sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports).
The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with
Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m
using this going forward J) to disable sync
functionality. The radio will still track satellites and
provide coordinates but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a
PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP
and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS
antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning
to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Ah shucks. I'd just gotten it all polished up...
bp
On 3/16/2015 12:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary.
Do I have to put away my pitchfork?
bp
On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:
Yes!!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You
will not need to purchase a license key to enable that.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to
Cambium 2.0?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan
to allow enabling of sync through a software license.
Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.
"Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses
the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet
ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and
GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.
Thanks,
Sriram
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not
a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the
synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync
disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that
they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's expected, yes.
Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4
>>
>> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
>> reuse?
>
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
it's 5ms now. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt wrote: > > That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the > same > > is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about > 17ms. > > But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms > frame > > size is available. > > What is frame size now? > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? > >> > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt > wrote: > >>> > >>> Any guess on latency when in this mode? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler < > john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you > to > >>>> enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration > – that > >>>> is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to > >>>> enable that. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup > (Cyber > >>>> Broadcasting) > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM > >>>> To: af@afmug.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dude, for real, more licensing? > >>>> > >>>> On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>> Suite 1337 > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync > >>>> capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync > through a > >>>> software license. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM > >>>> To: af@afmug.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand > that > >>>> you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd > hinder > >>>> your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync > =) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>> Suite 1337 > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio > >>>> (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with > the > >>>> Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS > >>>> chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick > (Thanks Josh. > >>>> I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The > radio > >>>> will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not > allow sync. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Sriram > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM > >>>> To: af > >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is > >>>> the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it > even > >>>> comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in > >>>> software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable > sync for > >>>> point-to-point. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > It's expected, yes. > >>>> > >>>> Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. > >>>> > >>>> ePMP Force 110 - Montagem > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for > >>>> >> frequency > >>>> >> reuse? > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The radio takes its sync source from the built-in GPS receiver or over Ethernet from a CMM or CMM-like device. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP We will get sync over power too, right? On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. "Software tick" is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 >> >> Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency >> reuse? >
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP force 110 installation
Left to left, right to right. You don't cross cables. Also, it doesn't matter except in the event you do a single pol spectrum scan. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:39 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > My guys assembled the Force 110 dishes and promptly threw away the > instructions. I'm trying to hook up the radio now, which coax is connected > to which lead on the radio? > > There is the black banded coax, and the grey banded coax. > > The cambium site is being less than usefull as it keeps requesting me to > enter all info for marketing, even though I'm logged in. Google isn't being > much help either. > > >
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP force 110 installation
Oh be careful when you push the radio up, hold the cables down towards the dish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:43 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Left to left, right to right. You don't cross cables. > > Also, it doesn't matter except in the event you do a single pol spectrum > scan. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jan 15, 2015 10:39 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > >> My guys assembled the Force 110 dishes and promptly threw away the >> instructions. I'm trying to hook up the radio now, which coax is connected >> to which lead on the radio? >> >> There is the black banded coax, and the grey banded coax. >> >> The cambium site is being less than usefull as it keeps requesting me to >> enter all info for marketing, even though I'm logged in. Google isn't being >> much help either. >> >> >>
[AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?
I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP. This is the same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite. I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations. I change it to 120 and it accepts that. I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm limited to 10 registrations. Update before you deploy... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
We love epmp here we may start doing away with ubnt We have 20/20 fiber at one site. And we get full throughput with no issues On Jul 21, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are > getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that > they claim? > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are > getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that > they claim? > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
And Mimosa is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something > based on an 802.11n PHY. > > I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync > version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you > see my story about going from Beams to force110? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > >> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are >> getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that >> they claim? >> >> >> >> Josh Heide >> >> Network Engineer >> >> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >> >> (209)838-1221 x108 >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Yup http://www.epmpwireless.com/pdf/Force_110_PTP.pdf Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
No I did not do you got a link Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation with no retries. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync And Mimosa is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Force110-ptp-success-story/m-p/38263 If you have experience with NanoBeams and are looking to improve the link, absolutely read this story. The antennas are definitely a bit better but the radios are probably always going to be at least somewhat subjective - my experience on this link should help you decide on that. Note: The force110 ptp radios/GPS stuff isn't really relevant to the link itself. The sync only fixes self-interference. You could just as easily use the $100 force110 radios with the same results. I used ptp radios there for the extra metal shielding which is probably irrelevant, but I didn't want to climb again in the middle of the winter to save pennies. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Joshua Heide wrote: > No I did not do you got a link > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you > see my story about going from Beams to force110? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > > Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are > getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that > they claim? > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Thanks for the link :D Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Force110-ptp-success-story/m-p/38263 If you have experience with NanoBeams and are looking to improve the link, absolutely read this story. The antennas are definitely a bit better but the radios are probably always going to be at least somewhat subjective - my experience on this link should help you decide on that. Note: The force110 ptp radios/GPS stuff isn't really relevant to the link itself. The sync only fixes self-interference. You could just as easily use the $100 force110 radios with the same results. I used ptp radios there for the extra metal shielding which is probably irrelevant, but I didn't want to climb again in the middle of the winter to save pennies. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Joshua Heide mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: No I did not do you got a link Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:15 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
I’ve got links at 2.7 miles doing that with 40MHz channels and that’s with 50/50 rates with the B5’s and running 2 radios on the same pole, in and out. If I change it to 75/25, it’s even faster. This link is shooting to a rooftop with about 11 other Ubiquiti radios, sectors and PTP’s. I didn’t check the planetary positions. I’ve got some Cambiums I’ll also be testing today to find a lower cost backhaul that supports DFS and 10MHz channels. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation with no retries. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync And Mimosa is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
I figured if you hadn't read it you'd never find it so you're more than welcome =) I still can't get my head wrapped around how ePMP outperforms Ubnt when they're both Atheros chipsets, but I suppose other people had the same thing when it came to 10baseT and 100baseT still using the same cat5e! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Joshua Heide wrote: > Thanks for the link :D > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:58 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > > http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Force110-ptp-success-story/m-p/38263 > > > > If you have experience with NanoBeams and are looking to improve the link, > absolutely read this story. The antennas are definitely a bit better but > the radios are probably always going to be at least somewhat subjective - > my experience on this link should help you decide on that. > > > > Note: The force110 ptp radios/GPS stuff isn't really relevant to the link > itself. The sync only fixes self-interference. You could just as easily > use the $100 force110 radios with the same results. I used ptp radios > there for the extra metal shielding which is probably irrelevant, but I > didn't want to climb again in the middle of the winter to save pennies. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Joshua Heide wrote: > > No I did not do you got a link > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you > see my story about going from Beams to force110? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > > Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are > getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that > they claim? > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
ePMP doesn't do 10 MHz channels unless it's TDD, just a heads up. I think they are planning to do 10 Mhz wifi mode so you can replace devices on live links, but that's not coming for some time and doesn't mean that it will or will not play nice with Ubnt/MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I’ve got links at 2.7 miles doing that with 40MHz channels and that’s > with 50/50 rates with the B5’s and running 2 radios on the same pole, in > and out. If I change it to 75/25, it’s even faster. This link is shooting > to a rooftop with about 11 other Ubiquiti radios, sectors and PTP’s. I > didn’t check the planetary positions. I’ve got some Cambiums I’ll also be > testing today to find a lower cost backhaul that supports DFS and 10MHz > channels. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:31 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? > > > > Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM > in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation > with no retries. > > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > And Mimosa is... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > > Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something > based on an 802.11n PHY. > > > > I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync > version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. > > > > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > > 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you > see my story about going from Beams to force110? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > > Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are > getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that > they claim? > > > > Josh Heide > > Network Engineer > > Velociter Wireless, Inc. > > (209)838-1221 x108 > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for that, which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP link on 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps aggregate. I see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a little more. On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation with no retries. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync And Mimosa is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" mailto:j...@velociter.net>> wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
The best I've seen them do on a real link is around 110Mbps one direction testing between two Mikrotik routers... 220 aggregate may very well be possible in perfect conditions. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something > based on an 802.11n PHY. > > I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync > version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you > see my story about going from Beams to force110? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: > >> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are >> getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that >> they claim? >> >> >> >> Josh Heide >> >> Network Engineer >> >> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >> >> (209)838-1221 x108 >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day. Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel. But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number. Probably because there are so many ePMP variants. I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF? From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for that, which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP link on 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps aggregate. I see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a little more. On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation with no retries. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync And Mimosa is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
I thought that I had been told both ePMP radios had the same CPU, but somebody said that the GPS radios are supposed to be able to handle more PPS, so I'm not sure... I'm pretty sure they do have more RAM, so that may make the difference. But there are really only two variants - GPS and non-GPS. The PTP 110 is exactly the same hardware as the other GPS radio, it's just limited to 10 SMs. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day. > Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel. > But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number. > Probably because there are so many ePMP variants. > I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF? > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for that, > which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP link on > 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps aggregate. I > see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a little more. > > On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? > > Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM > in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation > with no retries. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync > > > And Mimosa is... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something >> based on an 802.11n PHY. >> >> I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync >> version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >> >> >> 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did >> you see my story about going from Beams to force110? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" < >> j...@velociter.net> wrote: >> >>> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are >>> getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that >>> they claim? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Heide >>> >>> Network Engineer >>> >>> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >>> >>> (209)838-1221 x108 >>> >>> >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Software limited to 10 SMs. You can (eventually, I don't think currently) get the software limit up with a key. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I thought that I had been told both ePMP radios had the same CPU, but > somebody said that the GPS radios are supposed to be able to handle more > PPS, so I'm not sure... I'm pretty sure they do have more RAM, so that may > make the difference. > > But there are really only two variants - GPS and non-GPS. The PTP 110 is > exactly the same hardware as the other GPS radio, it's just limited to 10 > SMs. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day. >> Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel. >> But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number. >> Probably because there are so many ePMP variants. >> I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF? >> >> *From:* George Skorup >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >> >> ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for that, >> which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP link on >> 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps aggregate. I >> see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a little more. >> >> On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? >> >> Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM >> in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation >> with no retries. >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >> >> >> And Mimosa is... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: >> >>> Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something >>> based on an 802.11n PHY. >>> >>> I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync >>> version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>> >>> >>> 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did >>> you see my story about going from Beams to force110? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" < >>> j...@velociter.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people >>>> are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput >>>> that they claim? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Heide >>>> >>>> Network Engineer >>>> >>>> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >>>> >>>> (209)838-1221 x108 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Have they confirmed that you will be able to get a key? I assumed they would eventually, but I hadn't heard anything about it... that would be very good news. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Software limited to 10 SMs. You can (eventually, I don't think currently) > get the software limit up with a key. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> I thought that I had been told both ePMP radios had the same CPU, but >> somebody said that the GPS radios are supposed to be able to handle more >> PPS, so I'm not sure... I'm pretty sure they do have more RAM, so that may >> make the difference. >> >> But there are really only two variants - GPS and non-GPS. The PTP 110 is >> exactly the same hardware as the other GPS radio, it's just limited to 10 >> SMs. >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >>> OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day. >>> Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel. >>> But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number. >>> Probably because there are so many ePMP variants. >>> I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF? >>> >>> *From:* George Skorup >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>> >>> ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for >>> that, which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP >>> link on 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps >>> aggregate. I see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a >>> little more. >>> >>> On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? >>> >>> Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for 256QAM >>> in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max modulation >>> with no retries. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>> >>> >>> And Mimosa is... >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: >>> >>>> Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something >>>> based on an 802.11n PHY. >>>> >>>> I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync >>>> version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>>> >>>> >>>> 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did >>>> you see my story about going from Beams to force110? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" < >>>> j...@velociter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people >>>>> are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput >>>>> that they claim? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Heide >>>>> >>>>> Network Engineer >>>>> >>>>> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> (209)838-1221 x108 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
They've said they will. Don't know price. Probably a major rev down the road. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 6:21 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Have they confirmed that you will be able to get a key? I assumed they > would eventually, but I hadn't heard anything about it... that would be > very good news. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Software limited to 10 SMs. You can (eventually, I don't think >> currently) get the software limit up with a key. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Mathew Howard >> wrote: >> >>> I thought that I had been told both ePMP radios had the same CPU, but >>> somebody said that the GPS radios are supposed to be able to handle more >>> PPS, so I'm not sure... I'm pretty sure they do have more RAM, so that may >>> make the difference. >>> >>> But there are really only two variants - GPS and non-GPS. The PTP 110 is >>> exactly the same hardware as the other GPS radio, it's just limited to 10 >>> SMs. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>>> OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day. >>>> Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel. >>>> But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number. >>>> Probably because there are so many ePMP variants. >>>> I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF? >>>> >>>> *From:* George Skorup >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>>> >>>> ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for >>>> that, which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile ePMP >>>> link on 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get 98Mbps >>>> aggregate. I see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do 200Mbps, maybe a >>>> little more. >>>> >>>> On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>> The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac? >>>> >>>> Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for >>>> 256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max >>>> modulation with no retries. >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>>> >>>> >>>> And Mimosa is... >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something >>>>> based on an 802.11n PHY. >>>>> >>>>> I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync >>>>> version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did >>>>> you see my story about going from Beams to force110? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" < >>>>> j...@velociter.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people >>>>>> are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput >>>>>> that they claim? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Heide >>>>>> >>>>>> Network Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> Velociter Wireless, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> (209)838-1221 x108 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
We've mostly been doing PTP and some small PtMP for camera networks with
ePMP. We were using all UBNT for the camera stuff. So we started a new
job that required an AP on a central site and 8 or 10 remote cameras
spread across five remote sites. All within a mile, so low power 5.2/5.4
was the best option. Bought a bunch of the new UBNT beam things and
found they only did 5.7. Ordered ePMP, because I'm not going to shit on
5.7 like everyone else does. The DVR sits behind a Force110 SM connected
to the AP at the tower. Three of the remotes are also on SMs connected
to the same AP and it has zero problems. Even our regular camera guys
said the video feeds were never this smooth on any of the UBNT networks.
Regular connectorized radio for the AP, not GPS. Nothing else special,
just bridging and flexible framing. Probably pushing 30-40Mbps of video
traffic. Methinks Cambium just knows how to do RF scheduling.
On 7/21/2015 5:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
OK, ignore me, I seem to be having a bad math day.
Also trying to grasp the concept of actually using a 40 MHz channel.
But I was also remembering an ePMP data sheet with a 150 Mbps number.
Probably because there are so many ePMP variants.
I assume the lesser model is limited by CPU, not RF?
*From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:02 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
ePMP is 64QAM. 256 would be nice, but there's always the PTP450 for
that, which of course is limited to 20MHz though. I have a 10 mile
ePMP link on 2' dishes running in the 5.1 band. 20MHz channel. I get
98Mbps aggregate. I see no reason why a 40MHz channel couldn't do
200Mbps, maybe a little more.
On 7/21/2015 1:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The answer you are looking for is 802.11ac?
Anyway, I guess I’m mistaken and 220M may be the right number for
256QAM in 40 MHz. Assuming the planets align and every sub is at max
modulation with no retries.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
And Mimosa is...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 21, 2015 2:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for
something based on an 802.11n PHY.
I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS
sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just
surprised/amazed.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance.
Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" wrote:
Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput
people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps
real world throughput that they claim?
Josh Heide
Network Engineer
Velociter Wireless, Inc.
(209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync
Mikrotik can get 200+ out of 40 MHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:19:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync Really, 220 Mbps in a 40 MHz channel? That’s a bunch for something based on an 802.11n PHY. I think the regular Force 110 spec sheet says 150M, does the GPS sync version really say 220M? I’m not disputing it, just surprised/amazed. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP force 110 gps sync 220 would be perfect. I've had nothing but great RF performance. Did you see my story about going from Beams to force110? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 21, 2015 1:51 PM, "Joshua Heide" < j...@velociter.net > wrote: Looking into these units. Wondering what kind of throughput people are getting with these. Are you getting the 220mbps real world throughput that they claim? Josh Heide Network Engineer Velociter Wireless, Inc. (209)838-1221 x108
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?
Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had been changed)? We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock themselves someday. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP. This is the > same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite. > > I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations. I > change it to 120 and it accepts that. I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm > limited to 10 registrations. > > Update before you deploy... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?
Yep Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 28, 2016 1:22 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had > been changed)? > > We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that > were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did > that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they > aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock > themselves someday. > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP. This is the >> same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite. >> >> I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations. I >> change it to 120 and it accepts that. I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm >> limited to 10 registrations. >> >> Update before you deploy... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> > >
