RE: Issues with Venmoe and Voiceover

[Robin Frost]

Hi sarai,

Do report this to them. When I’ve reported things to them in the past they’ve 
been very receptive to fixing things so it couldn’t hurt. Does it behave the 
same on all devices?

I have a different issue on Venmo I have one former Venmo friend who I can’t 
delete for love nor money as the saying goes hahahaha. When I click on them it 
gives me an error as though their profile contains nothing so there’s no remove 
or delete element to be rid of them. So I have to contact them myself. I’ll be 
happy to join you in reporting this issue to them as well.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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Subject: Issues with Venmoe and Voiceover

 

All :

Someone asked me to do a Venmo transaction for them since they don’t use it.

Looks like with Voice over, iOS 17.2.1, and Venmo version 10.32.07 you cannot 
type in a venmo user in the search field with VO running. Voiceover speaks and 
enters in letters and symbols that you are not typing.

You use to be able to dictate in the search field, but if you try, the 
information is blank in the search field.

Just an FYI.

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RE: editing an open Instacart order

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Yes adding them is fine it’s removing them should you subsequently want or need 
to do so that’s where the accessibility breaks down.

I am sorry I wasn’t clearer.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:16 PM
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Subject: RE: editing an open Instacart order

 

I can add shoppers to my favorites list. No issues on that one.

Didn’t know this was a thing. Ugg.

 

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Subject: RE: editing an open Instacart order

 

Hi,

Oh nooo is this issue back? A while back this was a very huge problem in the 
shopping cart and made managing one’s cart very difficult.

I’m very sorry. You might want to call and tell them and make them aware or 
post at them on x formerly known as Twitter. When I called today, I did make 
them aware of the issue with the heart pertaining to favorited shoppers and did 
express how nice it’d be to be able to report problems from within the app 
directly to that team.

I’m sorry you are dealing with this issue once again.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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Subject: RE: editing an open Instacart order

 

Didn’t work. I tapped On blueberries and another item popped up.

 

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Belville
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: editing an open Instacart order

 

if swiping doesn't work, you can double tap on the item and remove or change 
the quantity in your cart from within the item listing itself.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> 

On 1/7/2024 12:09 PM, William Outman wrote:

I am not sure about removing an item, but I did edit a quantity today in an 
Instacart order I just made on the phone.  

I was in my buy it’s again list and swiped on the item in question and changed 
an item quantity. 

Try removing the item from the cart before checking out. VoiceOver should read 
the list of items in your cart. See if there is a remove open there, or 
possibly delete; I haven’t done it so I don’t know for sure. 

Bill Outman 

 

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Hi all:

I needed to remove an item from an open Instacart order. I ended up having to 
use the computer, and not use Voiceover on my phone. I even tried screen rec 
with no luck. Is there a trick to this?

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RE: editing an open Instacart order

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Oh nooo is this issue back? A while back this was a very huge problem in the 
shopping cart and made managing one’s cart very difficult.

I’m very sorry. You might want to call and tell them and make them aware or 
post at them on x formerly known as Twitter. When I called today, I did make 
them aware of the issue with the heart pertaining to favorited shoppers and did 
express how nice it’d be to be able to report problems from within the app 
directly to that team.

I’m sorry you are dealing with this issue once again.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: editing an open Instacart order

 

Didn’t work. I tapped On blueberries and another item popped up.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: editing an open Instacart order

 

if swiping doesn't work, you can double tap on the item and remove or change 
the quantity in your cart from within the item listing itself.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com  

On 1/7/2024 12:09 PM, William Outman wrote:

I am not sure about removing an item, but I did edit a quantity today in an 
Instacart order I just made on the phone.  

I was in my buy it’s again list and swiped on the item in question and changed 
an item quantity. 

Try removing the item from the cart before checking out. VoiceOver should read 
the list of items in your cart. See if there is a remove open there, or 
possibly delete; I haven’t done it so I don’t know for sure. 

Bill Outman 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Hi all:

I needed to remove an item from an open Instacart order. I ended up having to 
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Re: editing an open Instacart order

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I echo that which the other posters suggested regarding this issue. I 
just wanted to add along with their thoughts that sometimes the cart is 
very very slow to update and I've found the best way to be sure that an 
item has truly been deleted if it seems to still be persisting in 
appearance is to back out of your cart and come back into it other wise 
you can think you're still deleting the errant item but end up deleting 
something you didn't wish to delete. I have done it more times than I 
can count I assure you.


So perhaps that will help. I wish they had a more direct way to 
communicate accessibility issues to their app developers. I also wish 
once a shopper was favorited those using Voiceover could access the 
"heart which signifies this favorited status in case one wishes to 
change it. It'd also be nice when scheduling with favorite shoppers if 
we could select them by name and I've attempted to communicate this and 
other accessibility concerns to them whenever they arise.


I am sorry for the inconveniences this app sometimes presents.

Take good care,

Robin


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I needed to remove an item from an open Instacart order. I ended up 
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RE: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or Alexa?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
You may have to delete and reinstall the app I can't think of anything else I'd 
try in such a situation. I hope you get it sorted quickly.
Best of luck.
Take care,
Robin


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2024 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google 
Assistant or Alexa?

Hi Robin,

I too always check that first and it is indeed still off.

So confused,

Beth
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2024, at 7:29 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi Beth,
> That is very strange since I was just in there yesterday and all seemed as it 
> usually had been.
> Sometimes when things behave in unexpected fashions these days the first 
> thing I check is to be sure screen recognition or describe images didn't 
> inadvertently get turned on in the given app by rotating to them on the rotor 
> and flicking up or down to be sure they're off.
> Let me know if that has any impact.
> Take good care,
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beth G
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google 
> Assistant or Alexa?
> 
> Hi Robyn,
> 
> I do appreciate your response. My boyfriend who is sighted was able to set up 
> favorites for me, which appeared was going to work well. However, when I went 
> to do my laundry last night, all I could see was button button button button, 
> and nothing was labeled when I opened the app. I am perplexed by this. I 
> closed and reopened it several times And tried tapping on dryer or appliances 
> and all I now keep seeing is unlabeled buttons. I don’t understand because on 
> Sunday of this week he had the favorites set up because we discovered the 
> same problem you reported about temperature control, and it worked OK.
> 
> Could we talk off-line  Since you have the same app and maybe we can 
> troubleshoot?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Beth
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I haven't an answer about the smart device platforms but did want to chime 
>> in regarding the statement that the app is not super accessible.
>> 
>> I respectfully disagree.  I use it weekly and while it's not perfect it is 
>> indeed quite usable when using VoiceOver on an iPhone.
>> 
>> Are there controls that need fixing? Absolutely there are. I.E. trying to 
>> change temperatures for some of the preset cycles is not working well with 
>> VoiceOver currently. But there are current tickets with Maytag's department 
>> that handles concerns related to their app. Many of us have made friends 
>> with them and whenever we call their techs are thorough in their willingness 
>> to hear what the concern is, log it accurately and escalate it accordingly, 
>> always with the proviso that they can't guarantee when they'll be addressed 
>> which is fair as it isn't in their control.
>> 
>> Having said all of that if one just wants to use any of the preset cycles as 
>> they are or can get some temporary on sight sighted assistance to go into 
>> the favorites area of the app to customize a favorite cycle to one's 
>> specifications, once done cycles can be chosen and executed within the app 
>> with no difficulty whatsoever. Further more the push notifications for cycle 
>> completion are flawless. Sometimes the reporting of time left in a cycle can 
>> be less than accurate I've seen it say one minute left when there's a good 
>> ten minutes left but that could just be how the machine and Maytag's web 
>> platform are communicating on the back end and again isn't difficult to work 
>> around for me at least.
>> 
>> all this to simply give another perspective and to urge another look at the 
>> main app for the appliances. Again it isn't perfect, very few things are but 
>> most on screen elements are labeled and do speak and execute properly 
>> without issue.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Take good care,
>> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 1/5/2024 12:38 AM, Beth G wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> The subject line says it. I was hoping I would not need to get a 
>>> voice assist device but the app is not super accessible. So, if I 
>>> do, which should I go with Alexa, or Google Assistant?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Beth.
>>> S

RE: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or Alexa?

[Robin Frost]

Hi Beth,
That is very strange since I was just in there yesterday and all seemed as it 
usually had been.
Sometimes when things behave in unexpected fashions these days the first thing 
I check is to be sure screen recognition or describe images didn't 
inadvertently get turned on in the given app by rotating to them on the rotor 
and flicking up or down to be sure they're off.
Let me know if that has any impact.
Take good care,
Robin



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google 
Assistant or Alexa?

Hi Robyn,

I do appreciate your response. My boyfriend who is sighted was able to set up 
favorites for me, which appeared was going to work well. However, when I went 
to do my laundry last night, all I could see was button button button button, 
and nothing was labeled when I opened the app. I am perplexed by this. I closed 
and reopened it several times And tried tapping on dryer or appliances and all 
I now keep seeing is unlabeled buttons. I don’t understand because on Sunday of 
this week he had the favorites set up because we discovered the same problem 
you reported about temperature control, and it worked OK.

Could we talk off-line  Since you have the same app and maybe we can 
troubleshoot?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I haven't an answer about the smart device platforms but did want to chime in 
> regarding the statement that the app is not super accessible.
> 
> I respectfully disagree.  I use it weekly and while it's not perfect it is 
> indeed quite usable when using VoiceOver on an iPhone.
> 
> Are there controls that need fixing? Absolutely there are. I.E. trying to 
> change temperatures for some of the preset cycles is not working well with 
> VoiceOver currently. But there are current tickets with Maytag's department 
> that handles concerns related to their app. Many of us have made friends with 
> them and whenever we call their techs are thorough in their willingness to 
> hear what the concern is, log it accurately and escalate it accordingly, 
> always with the proviso that they can't guarantee when they'll be addressed 
> which is fair as it isn't in their control.
> 
> Having said all of that if one just wants to use any of the preset cycles as 
> they are or can get some temporary on sight sighted assistance to go into the 
> favorites area of the app to customize a favorite cycle to one's 
> specifications, once done cycles can be chosen and executed within the app 
> with no difficulty whatsoever. Further more the push notifications for cycle 
> completion are flawless. Sometimes the reporting of time left in a cycle can 
> be less than accurate I've seen it say one minute left when there's a good 
> ten minutes left but that could just be how the machine and Maytag's web 
> platform are communicating on the back end and again isn't difficult to work 
> around for me at least.
> 
> all this to simply give another perspective and to urge another look at the 
> main app for the appliances. Again it isn't perfect, very few things are but 
> most on screen elements are labeled and do speak and execute properly without 
> issue.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Take good care,
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/2024 12:38 AM, Beth G wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> The subject line says it. I was hoping I would not need to get a 
>> voice assist device but the app is not super accessible. So, if I do, 
>> which should I go with Alexa, or Google Assistant?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Beth.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or Alexa?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I haven't an answer about the smart device platforms but did want to 
chime in regarding the statement that the app is not super accessible.


I respectfully disagree.  I use it weekly and while it's not perfect it 
is indeed quite usable when using VoiceOver on an iPhone.


Are there controls that need fixing? Absolutely there are. I.E. trying 
to change temperatures for some of the preset cycles is not working well 
with VoiceOver currently. But there are current tickets with Maytag's 
department that handles concerns related to their app. Many of us have 
made friends with them and whenever we call their techs are thorough in 
their willingness to hear what the concern is, log it accurately and 
escalate it accordingly, always with the proviso that they can't 
guarantee when they'll be addressed which is fair as it isn't in their 
control.


Having said all of that if one just wants to use any of the preset 
cycles as they are or can get some temporary on sight sighted assistance 
to go into the favorites area of the app to customize a favorite cycle 
to one's specifications, once done cycles can be chosen and executed 
within the app with no difficulty whatsoever. Further more the push 
notifications for cycle completion are flawless. Sometimes the reporting 
of time left in a cycle can be less than accurate I've seen it say one 
minute left when there's a good ten minutes left but that could just be 
how the machine and Maytag's web platform are communicating on the back 
end and again isn't difficult to work around for me at least.


all this to simply give another perspective and to urge another look at 
the main app for the appliances. Again it isn't perfect, very few things 
are but most on screen elements are labeled and do speak and execute 
properly without issue.


I hope this helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 1/5/2024 12:38 AM, Beth G wrote:

Hello all,

The subject line says it. I was hoping I would not need to get a voice
assist device but the app is not super accessible. So, if I do, which should
I go with Alexa, or Google Assistant?

Thank you,

Beth.
Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
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Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
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RE: some notifications are still going to my old i phone 8 and not my new i phone 14 pro.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Have you launched the apps in question on the new phone? Sometimes that’s 
enough to fix it. If not, turn off their notifications in settings and 
notifications and then when you launch the apps themselves, they might ask for 
permission to do so again. In theory this should just plain work but often it 
doesn’t.  It’s why many of us have taken to setting up as new and just manually 
downloading our apps again because then these permissions must ask and then set 
themselves right.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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i phone 14 pro.

 

Hello all I transferd from I clowd back up all of my data from my I phone 8 to 
my I phone 14. I didn’t remove anything from my I phone 8 yet but I have found 
that since doing that I found that some notifactions are going to my I phone 8 
and not my I phone 14. I checked all of the notifactations on each of the 
phones and they are all on and should be working. The apps that I am having 
ishues with are x formiley twitter and the braking news app. Each of those on 
each of the phones say show on the lock screen and then announcement is set to 
on and the description is banners, badges, sounds etc. what should I do to try 
to fix this? From Mich.

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Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

With this having been said, once iTunes goes away forever might anyone 
know how then one might sync ringtones from the Windows side of things?


Thanks so kindly and apologies if this was already covered and I missed it.

Take good care,

Robin


On 11/26/2023 12:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

But as a word of caution, if you rely on iTunes for backups or transferring 
files then don't install the Apple Music app because if you do iTunes won't 
work at all any more until you uninstall Apple Music.

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You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I was 
able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize
dialogue appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each
song over and over again. Why?

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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Perhaps this URL might help.

I believe here it is on Amazon's US site.


https://www.amazon.com/Anker-GaNPrime-PowerCore-Charger-Portable/dp/B09W2H224F


Take good care,

Robin


On 11/25/2023 3:17 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
It shows up here as the first entry when I search for Anker 733. I 
can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be available in the US. You 
could also look at a comapny called UGreen which produces similar 
chargers. Anker certainly isn't the only game in town.


Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind 
User

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Margaret Thomas 
 wrote:


Hi, Michael:

on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733 that you
mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker
numbers
for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733. Did I just
miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.

Many thanks,
Margaret


On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all
the
> time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops
charging the
> battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only
thing
> it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd
have to
> push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.
>
> Michael Feir
> Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
Blind User
>

http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1


> Mastodon: @mfeir@mstdn.social
> Twitter: mfeir
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>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B.  > wrote:
>
>     __
>     Hi Michael,
>     I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could
cause
>     premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit
of charge
>     it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank
every so
>     often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
>     somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.
>
>     Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>     - Original Message -
>     *From:* Michael Feir 
>     *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>     *Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
>
>     Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN
Prime
>     733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger
in one
>     handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I
know it'll
>     be full when I need it. It has folding plug prongs which let you
>     plug it directly into the wall socket or power bar. It has
two USB C
>     ports and a USB A port. You'd also need a Lightning to USBC
cable
>     which Anker makes.
>     I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives
audio beep
>     feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's
connected or
>     when it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm
covered
>     for a good eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me
through
>     around three or four days. More if I'm conservative.
>     If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much
bigger
>     power banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both
>     will easily fit in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning
>     cable, I would also suggest you get a spare USB C to USB C
cable.
>     That may be useful for other accessories like USB headsets,
>     emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You can always
charge other
>     power banks while you have electricity using the ports in
the 733
>     charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight discount
here in
>     Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is
true in the
>     US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll
>     hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.
>     Michael Feir
>     Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
>     Blind User
>

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Re: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications fixed

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

One annoyance I've noted is that when on the status line I can do a 3 
finger swipe down for Notification center on any icon but the battery 
level indicator. I don't know if there's some visual difference with 
this icon as opposed to the others that would account for this 
difference but so far this is my experience.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/25/2023 3:33 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Just updated both my IPHone and IPad to 17.1, and it’s so weird what I’m going 
to say: the Language rotor option isn’t there! On both my IPHone and IPad, I 
had to head on over to voiceOver rotor options, with the surprise that the 
Language option wasn’t checked! Thus upon checking it once again, it shows up 
as it should. So just so that you’ll can aware of this little annoyance.
What I’m loving the iOS17.1, though, is that apparently the VoiceOver 
Notification reading bug is fixed! I tested this by going into 
voiceOver/Verbosity/System Notifications, and within the Blocked Screen section 
of the Settings, checked “Don’t do Nothing”, and yes it worked! VoiceOver was 
speechless (not even the time as  did with the 17.0 cycle), of which I’m very 
happy! This is what I’d been expecting all along! What makes me happier is that 
I no longer have to turn off teh speech as before!
Oh and the update is sort of big! On my th Generation IPad it was around 900MB, 
and on this IPHone se 2nd Generation, the 17.1 updated cloked just a it over a 
GB”!Gera
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iOS 17.1 has resurrected the sounds of Westminster Chimes and in coming emails

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,

I'm glad to report that with the arrival of the official release of iOS 
17.1 Apple has addressed whatever was causing Westminster Chimes to not 
sound unless it was set to appear in notification center. It now works 
with the app developer's original configuration. I.E. the only thing 
turned on under notifications for the app is sounds. So no clutter in 
the notification center or lock screen for it. Note for those who want 
it to verbalize by speaking an alert instead of chiming you still have 
to have VoiceOver set to verbalize notifications which is a universal 
setting and will impact more than just the chimes apps. so embrace that 
as you see fit.


I'm also glad to report that the notification sounder for in coming 
emails has once again resurrected as well.


Happy chiming and alerting one and all.

Take good care,

Robin


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Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I haven't an exact date but it's been working here for a good few years 
here.


Happy ringing one and all.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/25/2023 12:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Thanks, figured it out. Not sure if this has always been possible, but I 
thought I even called Amazon once years ago and they said it would only work 
with an Echo with video.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Hi,

Refer to this site it should all anyone would need and more to get this going. 
I hope this helps.


https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017596112-Two-Way-Communication-with-Amazon-Echo-Devices#:~:text=Say%20%22Alexa%2C%20answer%20%5Bcamera,camera%20or%20doorbell%20name%5D.%22


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/24/2023 3:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Could you provide steps as to how you set this up in the Alexa app?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Hi,

I can tell my Echo Dot 5th gen to answer my front door and can then communicate 
with whomever is there through it with no trouble.  I could also do this with 
the 4th gen dots and the 4th gen regular Echo as well.
No screen needed.


Take good care,

Robin



On 10/23/2023 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Less good than one would expect, even if you tell your Echo Show to answer a 
doorbell ring, the microphone is still disabled so you would have to make sure 
the Echo Show's screenreader is turned on and then try to find the microphone 
button and enable it so you can talk to the person at the door.
If anybody has different information like how one can do all this by voice or 
if there is a setting where the microphone is on by default when you tell the 
Show to answer a doorbell call then I'd love to know how it's done.
I also find it silly that Amazon doesn't allow speakers without a screen to 
answer a doorbell call, I mean you could still use it as an intercom and us 
blind folks couldn't care less if there were video or not, but once again to my 
knowledge you can only link an Echo Show to a doorbell.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

I would like to know how it works with an Echo. When my son has some time off 
around Thanksgiving, we are going to set up my Show and my Dot.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Thanks, Sieghard.  Do you use it with the Alexa products?




Do you get any kind of a notification if a package is dropped off at your door 
and they don’t ring the doorbell?




We were also looking at a similar product made by Wyze, if anyone has any 
experience with that company.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App




I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don’t live in a 
place where it gets really cold like it does up here in Northwestern British 
Columbia you are probably fine with a battery-powered model. Having said this, 
if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are it would be a 
relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell hooked up.

The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to live view 
Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult to deal with and a 
situation where using a headset comes in handy. It also definitely takes 
practice if you want to be able to answer a doorbell press quickly enough so 
the persojn at your door hasn’t walked away. I always thought it must be an 
Apple limitation which doesn’t allow you to answer a Ring notification like a 
phone call evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the 
notification it connects you to your doorbell.




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App




Hi All,




We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the available models 
on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.




Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the

Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Refer to this site it should all anyone would need and more to get this 
going. I hope this helps.



https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017596112-Two-Way-Communication-with-Amazon-Echo-Devices#:~:text=Say%20%22Alexa%2C%20answer%20%5Bcamera,camera%20or%20doorbell%20name%5D.%22


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/24/2023 3:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Could you provide steps as to how you set this up in the Alexa app?


-Original Message-
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Frost
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Hi,

I can tell my Echo Dot 5th gen to answer my front door and can then communicate 
with whomever is there through it with no trouble.  I could also do this with 
the 4th gen dots and the 4th gen regular Echo as well.
No screen needed.


Take good care,

Robin



On 10/23/2023 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Less good than one would expect, even if you tell your Echo Show to answer a 
doorbell ring, the microphone is still disabled so you would have to make sure 
the Echo Show's screenreader is turned on and then try to find the microphone 
button and enable it so you can talk to the person at the door.
If anybody has different information like how one can do all this by voice or 
if there is a setting where the microphone is on by default when you tell the 
Show to answer a doorbell call then I'd love to know how it's done.
I also find it silly that Amazon doesn't allow speakers without a screen to 
answer a doorbell call, I mean you could still use it as an intercom and us 
blind folks couldn't care less if there were video or not, but once again to my 
knowledge you can only link an Echo Show to a doorbell.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

I would like to know how it works with an Echo. When my son has some time off 
around Thanksgiving, we are going to set up my Show and my Dot.

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Thanks, Sieghard.  Do you use it with the Alexa products?

   


Do you get any kind of a notification if a package is dropped off at your door 
and they don’t ring the doorbell?

   


We were also looking at a similar product made by Wyze, if anyone has any 
experience with that company.

   

   


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

   


I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don’t live in a 
place where it gets really cold like it does up here in Northwestern British 
Columbia you are probably fine with a battery-powered model. Having said this, 
if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are it would be a 
relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell hooked up.

The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to live view 
Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult to deal with and a 
situation where using a headset comes in handy. It also definitely takes 
practice if you want to be able to answer a doorbell press quickly enough so 
the persojn at your door hasn’t walked away. I always thought it must be an 
Apple limitation which doesn’t allow you to answer a Ring notification like a 
phone call evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the 
notification it connects you to your doorbell.

   


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
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Subject: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

   


Hi All,

   


We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the available models 
on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.

   


Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell, accessibility 
of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?

   


If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.  We have 
only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet familiar with 
these guys.

   


Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?

   


Thanks much,

Pam

   

   


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Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I can tell my Echo Dot 5th gen to answer my front door and can then 
communicate with whomever is there through it with no trouble.  I could 
also do this with the 4th gen dots and the 4th gen regular Echo as well. 
No screen needed.



Take good care,

Robin



On 10/23/2023 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Less good than one would expect, even if you tell your Echo Show to answer a 
doorbell ring, the microphone is still disabled so you would have to make sure 
the Echo Show's screenreader is turned on and then try to find the microphone 
button and enable it so you can talk to the person at the door.
If anybody has different information like how one can do all this by voice or 
if there is a setting where the microphone is on by default when you tell the 
Show to answer a doorbell call then I'd love to know how it's done.
I also find it silly that Amazon doesn't allow speakers without a screen to 
answer a doorbell call, I mean you could still use it as an intercom and us 
blind folks couldn't care less if there were video or not, but once again to my 
knowledge you can only link an Echo Show to a doorbell.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

I would like to know how it works with an Echo. When my son has some time off 
around Thanksgiving, we are going to set up my Show and my Dot.

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paekstr...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Thanks, Sieghard.  Do you use it with the Alexa products?

  


Do you get any kind of a notification if a package is dropped off at your door 
and they don’t ring the doorbell?

  


We were also looking at a similar product made by Wyze, if anyone has any 
experience with that company.

  

  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

  


I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don’t live in a 
place where it gets really cold like it does up here in Northwestern British 
Columbia you are probably fine with a battery-powered model. Having said this, 
if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are it would be a 
relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell hooked up.

The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to live view 
Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult to deal with and a 
situation where using a headset comes in handy. It also definitely takes 
practice if you want to be able to answer a doorbell press quickly enough so 
the persojn at your door hasn’t walked away. I always thought it must be an 
Apple limitation which doesn’t allow you to answer a Ring notification like a 
phone call evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the 
notification it connects you to your doorbell.

  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com   mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

  


Hi All,

  


We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the available models 
on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.

  


Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell, accessibility 
of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?

  


If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.  We have 
only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet familiar with 
these guys.

  


Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?

  


Thanks much,

Pam

  

  



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Re: not being notified of all text messages

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Hi,

Sadly I haven't a solution but I can confirm that I've experienced this 
also and you're right it's positively maddening and there seems to be no 
rhyme, reason or pattern of causality to it.


I know that doesn't help and I'm sorry but you're not the only one.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/22/2023 10:55 AM, Ryan Mann wrote:

I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my text 
tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone and the 
only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There does not 
seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and which ones I 
don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on either.  Why 
would this be happening?

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Re: Lock rotation in 15 Pro

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Hi,

It verbalizes a smidge differently in 17. It no longer says lock 
orientation which is what it is it just says lock or unlock so you can 
go right by it and easily miss it. Look again in control center just 
knowing it is the thing which you seek.  And rest assured in the latest 
public beta they've fixed how it verbalizes so soon when the new 
iteration of the OS comes out it'll once again look as it did.


but there we are. I hope that helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/22/2023 9:24 AM, William Outman wrote:

Did that and never found it.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2023, at 8:27 AM, 'JOHN RIEHL' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hi. You need to actually get into the control center by swiping up from the 
top of the screen. There’s another way to get into it but I don’t remember what 
it is. Don’t get into the settings control center under settings you need to 
actually get into the control center and flick right until you see the lock 
rotation, hope that helps John
John Riehl







Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2023, at 7:48 AM, William Outman  wrote:

Someone said lock rotation is in control center. I can’t find it.
Bill Outman

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Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?

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Hi,

I am not currently but have in the past. I've had 2 e-sims from the same 
and different providers.  I had no issues therein when I did have such a 
configuration.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/18/2023 1:21 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Is anyone currently using two eSIM cards on an iPhone?  You know, using one
telephone number as a primary and a second number as a secondary number?

If so, how is that working for you?

Also, If you do have 2 eSIM cards currently installed, are they from
different wireless providers?

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Re: Fastmail Issue

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Hi,

You can also access the profile via the QR code that appears on the page 
for generating app specific passwords via their web interface and 
settings and integrations tab. Once you select iPhone for device what 
you want it to access specifically and generate password the QR code 
will be on screen and i had no issue pointing my iPhone camera at it and 
grabbing it that way.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/13/2023 6:05 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Andrew,
   The app's interface is a bit funky but I did find the settings 
link. Nothing about  a profile.


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On 10/13/2023 1:07 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
When I installed fastmail app on my iphone, I found a link in the app 
“applications setings and guides” or something similar.  I tapped it 
and started reading through the various instructions and guides. One 
of them was on how to set up fastmail for iphone.  It’s there I found 
the link to download profile, which once installed generated the 
right password for fastmail.


Good luck

Andrew

On 13 Oct 2023, at 02:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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 I created the password. How would I do this QR code? Am 
assuming the profile is good to go, right?  The iPad is having the 
same problem.


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On 10/12/2023 6:47 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
Did you use the QR code to download the profile and let it set it 
up that way; or did you generate an app specific password as you 
did for your computer?
It seems to prefer the set up using the qr code and profile 
download on the phone. At least that's what's always worked here.

Take good care,
Robin
On 10/12/2023 7:48 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Decided to go with fastmail. Added my new account to Thunderbird 
on Windows, works fine.


Not on the iPhone. the IMAP/SMTP settings are good. But the first 
error was something like "password authentication is not 
supported". Both IMAP and SMTP have my password entered. Is this 
correct? If now, what should I check? Thanks.


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Re: Fastmail Issue

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Hi,

Did you use the QR code to download the profile and let it set it up 
that way; or did you generate an app specific password as you did for 
your computer?


It seems to prefer the set up using the qr code and profile download on 
the phone. At least that's what's always worked here.


Take good care,

Robin


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Decided to go with fastmail. Added my new account to Thunderbird on 
Windows, works fine.


   Not on the iPhone. the IMAP/SMTP settings are good. But the first 
error was something like "password authentication is not supported". 
Both IMAP and SMTP have my password entered. Is this correct? If now, 
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Re: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 15 Series

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I have both a 15 Pro and a 15 Pro Max and so far no activities have 
caused them to get any warmer than prior devices I've owned. I may 
perceive the warmth it exhibits during charging with the 240 watt USB-C 
cable with Apple's 30 watt charger to be slightly more so than other 
prior devices have exhibited but nothing that would cause me to be 
overly concerned and I am one who literally loathes when a device heats 
up so I would be prone to reacting to such a perception or reality.


Just chiming in with my experiences for the sake of sharing I'm not in 
any way seeking to minimize or invalidate the experiences of others 
merely reporting that which I've noted thus far.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/12/2023 2:11 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
same level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

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Re: Email Providers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

When I left GMail for the bulk of my email activities I went with a paid 
plan from www.fastmail.com. I know some balk at the idea of a paid email 
provider but the advantage is no ads, great support the few times I've 
needed to use it. Like GMail I can set up my rules server side and they 
sync across clients and devices and their web interface while not maybe 
the most intuitive is by and large accessible.


It behaves well whether i"m on a Windows based or apple based device and 
also gets along with groups.io which sometimes iCloud email tends not to do.


I hope that helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/10/2023 5:41 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Other than Gmail, are there any reliable email services? I am 
considering changing Internet providers and if I change, I will need 
to update many accounts currently associated with my Internet 
provider. Thanks.


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Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Robin Frost]

Hi Mark and all,

Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the 
annoying drag and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before 
or after others folders are inadvertently created against the user's 
will. It is really irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was 
set up as new so there's no corruption potentially from having restored 
from a backup.


I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though 
all is set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.


And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon,
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
problems discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
the 15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
those of us who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

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Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

[Robin Frost]

Hi Richard Lisa and all,

Yes, yes, and yes I'm part of your reporting party as I've written to 
him about this too.  I have it on my 15 Pro Max but my brand new 15 Pro 
running iOS 17.0.2 which is unique to 15's isn't having the issue.  It 
is positively maddening for all of us and I'm sure Winston as well since 
he can't reproduce it. And I too have uninstalled and reinstalled 
numerous times and so hate the thought of resetting anything oy.


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 12:08 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Greetings,

Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?

On my 13 pro, it won't open.

Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.

So, checking to see if others are having issues.

For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
VDScan shows up in the app switcher.


Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.

I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset 
network settings.


I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
Universe


My web site: https://www.turner42.com 

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Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

As I said it never occurred to me not to tap that button. It's still 
curious that some see it right away and others do not.


Still I'm glad it's back there.

Robin


On 7/10/2023 1:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


When searching in the App Store, what appears at the top of the screen 
are just suggestions based on what else people have searched on. It’s 
not actually performing the search in the App Store. If I don’t see 
what I’m looking for in the search suggestions then I’ll tap on the 
search button down at the right hand side of the keyboard.


--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2023 10:19 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

I actually tap the search button at the bottom of the screen it would 
never occur to me not to do such.


Robin

On 7/10/2023 12:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

When  you type in "Light Detector", do you then review the results
or do you actually tap the "Search" button at the bottom right of
the screen?

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:48 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

At least by my devices here in the USA it's definitely not the
first search result with or without quotes. I find that strangely
fascinating but can find no causality for why that is so. Still I
for one like having choices and backups in case one stops working
and the power to choose makes the world great.

Take good care,

Robin

On 7/9/2023 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

When I searched for "Light Detector" it was the first search
result.

Anyways, it sounds like ti does exactly the same as the Light
Detection channel fo seeing AI so for me having just one app,
Seeing AI, which can do what Light Dector does and so much
more is my preference.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
    <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 5:00 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

That's how I found it I searched for the developer instead of
its name and found it that way. Now that it's back those that
had it already might see it once again in their purchased
apps. I looked on the app's page to see if there was contact
info for its developer but alas there didn't seem to be any.
So while i"m glad for news of its return I'm still glad to
know of other options just in case it should disappear again
for any number of reasons not the least of which being that
one day it might not be compatible with an iOS update. Still
I'm glad to have it back in my toolbox of available tools for now.

Take good care,

Robin

On 7/8/2023 7:45 PM, Karen Poulakos wrote:

I’ve had this for several years.

Just checked the App Store.  It appears to be available,
but you have to hunt through lots of apps to find it. I
found it on “page 9 of 25.”  On my phone it was at the top
of the page.    You should hear “Light Dectector,
Utilities, 4 stars, 5 ratings.”  It says it’s version 1.4,
7 y ago,

The developer is Retina Italia Onlus

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Louise
Peyton
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:03 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

Hi, Karen:

I looked for a light detector app in the app store, but
found light detector apps for fingerprint scans.  How is
it represented in the app store?  Thanks.

Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com

<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Karen
Poulakos
*Sent:* Saturday, July 08, 2023 2:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

I didn’t realize until today that Seeing AI has a Light
Dectector.  That’s good to know.  However I have the app
called Light Detector, which I think may be the same one
Regina mentioned.  I really like that app, and use it
often.  It’s so easy!  You just tap the app, and it starts
working right away when it opens. No menus to deal with.

Karen P

*From:*viphone@

Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I actually tap the search button at the bottom of the screen it would 
never occur to me not to do such.


Robin


On 7/10/2023 12:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


When  you type in "Light Detector", do you then review the results or 
do you actually tap the "Search" button at the bottom right of the screen?


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:48 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

At least by my devices here in the USA it's definitely not the first 
search result with or without quotes. I find that strangely 
fascinating but can find no causality for why that is so. Still I for 
one like having choices and backups in case one stops working and the 
power to choose makes the world great.


Take good care,

Robin

On 7/9/2023 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

When I searched for "Light Detector" it was the first search result.

Anyways, it sounds like ti does exactly the same as the Light
Detection channel fo seeing AI so for me having just one app,
Seeing AI, which can do what Light Dector does and so much more is
my preference.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 5:00 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

That's how I found it I searched for the developer instead of its
name and found it that way. Now that it's back those that had it
already might see it once again in their purchased apps. I looked
on the app's page to see if there was contact info for its
developer but alas there didn't seem to be any. So while i"m glad
for news of its return I'm still glad to know of other options
just in case it should disappear again for any number of reasons
not the least of which being that one day it might not be
compatible with an iOS update. Still I'm glad to have it back in
my toolbox of available tools for now.

Take good care,

Robin

On 7/8/2023 7:45 PM, Karen Poulakos wrote:

I’ve had this for several years.

Just checked the App Store.  It appears to be available, but
you have to hunt through lots of apps to find it.  I found it
on “page 9 of 25.”  On my phone it was at the top of the
page.    You should hear “Light Dectector, Utilities, 4 stars,
5 ratings.”  It says it’s version 1.4, 7 y ago,

The developer is Retina Italia Onlus

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Louise Peyton
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:03 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

Hi, Karen:

I looked for a light detector app in the app store, but found
light detector apps for fingerprint scans.  How is it
represented in the app store?  Thanks.

Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Karen Poulakos
*Sent:* Saturday, July 08, 2023 2:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

I didn’t realize until today that Seeing AI has a Light
Dectector.  That’s good to know.  However I have the app
called Light Detector, which I think may be the same one
Regina mentioned.  I really like that app, and use it often. 
It’s so easy!  You just tap the app, and it starts working
right away when it opens.  No menus to deal with.

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 12:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi, I really think it’s sad that seeing AI ditched the Light
Detector. However, I found an app called Light Detector. It
works very well. You just open it and it starts the highest
loudest sound is that the light is on and then when you turn
it off, it goes down to a low level of sound. That’s all that
the app does. It’s called light detector. Hope that helps. On

Reggie alvarado

Jul 8, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Richard Turner
 wrote:



Hi Gradimir,

It looks like Seeing Assistant Home has had quite a bit of
good development since I first tried it several years ago.

I do have a question.  It took a lot of digging through the
tutorial to find the below section concerning the limitations
of the light version which I copied from the tutorial.

My question is, and I guess it 

Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

At least by my devices here in the USA it's definitely not the first 
search result with or without quotes. I find that strangely fascinating 
but can find no causality for why that is so. Still I for one like 
having choices and backups in case one stops working and the power to 
choose makes the world great.


Take good care,

Robin


On 7/9/2023 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


When I searched for "Light Detector" it was the first search result.

Anyways, it sounds like ti does exactly the same as the Light 
Detection channel fo seeing AI so for me having just one app, Seeing 
AI, which can do what Light Dector does and so much more is my preference.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 5:00 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi,

That's how I found it I searched for the developer instead of its name 
and found it that way. Now that it's back those that had it already 
might see it once again in their purchased apps. I looked on the app's 
page to see if there was contact info for its developer but alas there 
didn't seem to be any. So while i"m glad for news of its return I'm 
still glad to know of other options just in case it should disappear 
again for any number of reasons not the least of which being that one 
day it might not be compatible with an iOS update. Still I'm glad to 
have it back in my toolbox of available tools for now.


Take good care,

Robin

On 7/8/2023 7:45 PM, Karen Poulakos wrote:

I’ve had this for several years.

Just checked the App Store.  It appears to be available, but you
have to hunt through lots of apps to find it.  I found it on “page
9 of 25.”  On my phone it was at the top of the page.    You
should hear “Light Dectector, Utilities, 4 stars, 5 ratings.”  It
says it’s version 1.4, 7 y ago,

The developer is Retina Italia Onlus

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Louise Peyton
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:03 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

Hi, Karen:

I looked for a light detector app in the app store, but found
light detector apps for fingerprint scans.  How is it represented
in the app store?  Thanks.

Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Karen Poulakos
*Sent:* Saturday, July 08, 2023 2:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

I didn’t realize until today that Seeing AI has a Light Dectector.
That’s good to know.  However I have the app called Light
Detector, which I think may be the same one Regina mentioned.  I
really like that app, and use it often. It’s so easy!  You just
tap the app, and it starts working right away when it opens.  No
menus to deal with.

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 12:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi, I really think it’s sad that seeing AI ditched the Light
Detector. However, I found an app called Light Detector. It works
very well. You just open it and it starts the highest loudest
sound is that the light is on and then when you turn it off, it
goes down to a low level of sound. That’s all that the app does.
It’s called light detector. Hope that helps. On

Reggie alvarado

Jul 8, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Richard Turner
 wrote:



Hi Gradimir,

It looks like Seeing Assistant Home has had quite a bit of good
development since I first tried it several years ago.

I do have a question.  It took a lot of digging through the
tutorial to find the below section concerning the limitations of
the light version which I copied from the tutorial.

My question is, and I guess it is two questions, What is the cost
of the non-light version and how does one find that version?

I found nothing about in-app purchases in the app store or in the app.


Limitations of LITE version

LITE version of Seeing Assistant Home has several limitations,
such as:

 1. Lack of Dropbox support,
 2. Only 5 codes can be created,
 3. Only 10 characters can be embedded in QR code,
 4. Lack of voice commands,
 5. Magnifying glass and Light Detector can be used only 1 minute
every day.


Warnings and disclaimer

Seeing Assistant Home uses internet connection to work. If you are
not connected to WiFi network or do not have internet plan data
transfer might result in additional costs. Transition Technologies
is not responsible for any loss or additional cos

Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

That's how I found it I searched for the developer instead of its name 
and found it that way. Now that it's back those that had it already 
might see it once again in their purchased apps. I looked on the app's 
page to see if there was contact info for its developer but alas there 
didn't seem to be any. So while i"m glad for news of its return I'm 
still glad to know of other options just in case it should disappear 
again for any number of reasons not the least of which being that one 
day it might not be compatible with an iOS update. Still I'm glad to 
have it back in my toolbox of available tools for now.


Take good care,

Robin


On 7/8/2023 7:45 PM, Karen Poulakos wrote:


I’ve had this for several years.

Just checked the App Store.  It appears to be available, but you have 
to hunt through lots of apps to find it.  I found it on “page 9 of 
25.”  On my phone it was at the top of the page.    You should hear 
“Light Dectector, Utilities, 4 stars, 5 ratings.”  It says it’s 
version 1.4, 7 y ago,


The developer is Retina Italia Onlus

Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:03 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

Hi, Karen:

I looked for a light detector app in the app store, but found light 
detector apps for fingerprint scans.  How is it represented in the app 
store?  Thanks.


Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Karen Poulakos

*Sent:* Saturday, July 08, 2023 2:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: light detector

I didn’t realize until today that Seeing AI has a Light Dectector. 
That’s good to know.  However I have the app called Light Detector, 
which I think may be the same one Regina mentioned.  I really like 
that app, and use it often.  It’s so easy!  You just tap the app, and 
it starts working right away when it opens.  No menus to deal with.


Karen P

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado

*Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2023 12:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: light detector

Hi, I really think it’s sad that seeing AI ditched the Light Detector. 
However, I found an app called Light Detector. It works very well. You 
just open it and it starts the highest loudest sound is that the light 
is on and then when you turn it off, it goes down to a low level of 
sound. That’s all that the app does. It’s called light detector. Hope 
that helps. On


Reggie alvarado

Jul 8, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:




Hi Gradimir,

It looks like Seeing Assistant Home has had quite a bit of good 
development since I first tried it several years ago.


I do have a question.  It took a lot of digging through the tutorial 
to find the below section concerning the limitations of the light 
version which I copied from the tutorial.


My question is, and I guess it is two questions, What is the cost of 
the non-light version and how does one find that version?


I found nothing about in-app purchases in the app store or in the app.


Limitations of LITE version

LITE version of Seeing Assistant Home has several limitations, such as:

  * Lack of Dropbox support,
  * Only 5 codes can be created,
  * Only 10 characters can be embedded in QR code,
  * Lack of voice commands,
  * Magnifying glass and Light Detector can be used only 1 minute
every day.


Warnings and disclaimer

Seeing Assistant Home uses internet connection to work. If you are not 
connected to WiFi network or do not have internet plan data transfer 
might result in additional costs. Transition Technologies is not 
responsible for any loss or additional costs resulting when using 
Seeing Assistant Home.


Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin


My web site: https://www.turner42.com

On Jul 8, 2023, at 7:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:



Hello,

About light detector, see: Seeing Assistant Home. Application is free.

Seeing Assistant Home is an application developed by Transition
Technologies S.A. in order to support blind and visually impaired
people in everyday life. Seeing Assistant Home allows the users to
color recognition, detection of the light source and partially
visually impaired people to use electronic loupe. Allows the users
to scan and generate barcodes and QR codes. Seeing Assistant Home
has been developed in close co-operation visually impaired people
in order to address their needs as well as possible.

Features:

•scan a barcode format EAN-13/UPC-A, Code 128, Code 39 and QR code

•store scanned barcodes with dedicated description (label) in
private database

•generate both QR codes and ordinary barcodes (EAN-13)

•recognition of c

Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

My hero of the day you are. So help me at the beginning of the week it 
was literally nowhere to be found in the app store. I'm glad it 
reappeared. Thank you good sir.


Take good care,

Robin (who's happy to be informed of this)


On 7/8/2023 6:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Try this link for Light Detector:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/light-detector/id420929143




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi,

I thought the Light Detector app so named just Light Detector was 
gone from the app store. It may still reside on devices on which it'd 
been downloaded but if one updates or gets a different device when 
last I checked a few days ago it was gone from the app store.


Take good care,

Robin


On 7/8/2023 1:17 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
Hi, I really think it’s sad that seeing AI ditched the Light 
Detector. However, I found an app called Light Detector. It works 
very well. You just open it and it starts the highest loudest sound 
is that the light is on and then when you turn it off, it goes down 
to a low level of sound. That’s all that the app does. It’s called 
light detector. Hope that helps. On

Reggie alvarado

Jul 8, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




Hi Gradimir,

It looks like Seeing Assistant Home has had quite a bit of good 
development since I first tried it several years ago.


I do have a question.  It took a lot of digging through the tutorial 
to find the below section concerning the limitations of the light 
version which I copied from the tutorial.


My question is, and I guess it is two questions, What is the cost of 
the non-light version and how does one find that version?


I found nothing about in-app purchases in the app store or in the app.


Limitations of LITE version

LITE version of Seeing Assistant Home has several limitations, such as:

  * Lack of Dropbox support,
  * Only 5 codes can be created,
  * Only 10 characters can be embedded in QR code,
  * Lack of voice commands,
  * Magnifying glass and Light Detector can be used only 1 minute
every day.


Warnings and disclaimer

Seeing Assistant Home uses internet connection to work. If you are 
not connected to WiFi network or do not have internet plan data 
transfer might result in additional costs. Transition Technologies 
is not responsible for any loss or additional costs resulting when 
using Seeing Assistant Home.


Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin


My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Jul 8, 2023, at 7:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić 
wrote:



Hello,

About light detector, see: Seeing Assistant Home. Application is
free.

Seeing Assistant Home is an application developed by Transition
Technologies S.A. in order to support blind and visually
impaired people in everyday life. Seeing Assistant Home allows
the users to color recognition, detection of the light source
and partially visually impaired people to use electronic loupe.
Allows the users to scan and generate barcodes and QR codes.
Seeing Assistant Home has been developed in close co-operation
visually impaired people in order to address their needs as well
as possible.

Features:

•scan a barcode format EAN-13/UPC-A, Code 128, Code 39 and QR code

•store scanned barcodes with dedicated description (label) in
private database

•generate both QR codes and ordinary barcodes (EAN-13)

•recognition of colors

•detection the light source

•electronic loupe

•Dropbox integration

and fully operational by voice commands!

Make sure to check the tutorial on
http://seeingassistant.tt.com.pl/en/home/home-tutorial/

to learn how to use our software.


Seeing Assistant Home on the App Store:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeing-assistant-home/id625146680


Best,

Gradimir


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: light detector

The Light detector is still there for me.
Double tap on Menu, then settings, then Reorder channels.
Make sure Light says selected, if it doesn't, double tap it so
it is selected and it will be there.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in
touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent
Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 6:38

Re: light detector

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I thought the Light Detector app so named just Light Detector was gone 
from the app store. It may still reside on devices on which it'd been 
downloaded but if one updates or gets a different device when last I 
checked a few days ago it was gone from the app store.


Take good care,

Robin


On 7/8/2023 1:17 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
Hi, I really think it’s sad that seeing AI ditched the Light Detector. 
However, I found an app called Light Detector. It works very well. You 
just open it and it starts the highest loudest sound is that the light 
is on and then when you turn it off, it goes down to a low level of 
sound. That’s all that the app does. It’s called light detector. Hope 
that helps. On

Reggie alvarado

Jul 8, 2023, at 11:04 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:




Hi Gradimir,

It looks like Seeing Assistant Home has had quite a bit of good 
development since I first tried it several years ago.


I do have a question.  It took a lot of digging through the tutorial 
to find the below section concerning the limitations of the light 
version which I copied from the tutorial.


My question is, and I guess it is two questions, What is the cost of 
the non-light version and how does one find that version?


I found nothing about in-app purchases in the app store or in the app.


Limitations of LITE version

LITE version of Seeing Assistant Home has several limitations, such as:

  * Lack of Dropbox support,
  * Only 5 codes can be created,
  * Only 10 characters can be embedded in QR code,
  * Lack of voice commands,
  * Magnifying glass and Light Detector can be used only 1 minute
every day.


Warnings and disclaimer

Seeing Assistant Home uses internet connection to work. If you are not 
connected to WiFi network or do not have internet plan data transfer 
might result in additional costs. Transition Technologies is not 
responsible for any loss or additional costs resulting when using 
Seeing Assistant Home.


Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin


My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Jul 8, 2023, at 7:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:



Hello,

About light detector, see: Seeing Assistant Home. Application is free.

Seeing Assistant Home is an application developed by Transition
Technologies S.A. in order to support blind and visually impaired
people in everyday life. Seeing Assistant Home allows the users to
color recognition, detection of the light source and partially
visually impaired people to use electronic loupe. Allows the users
to scan and generate barcodes and QR codes. Seeing Assistant Home
has been developed in close co-operation visually impaired people
in order to address their needs as well as possible.

Features:

•scan a barcode format EAN-13/UPC-A, Code 128, Code 39 and QR code

•store scanned barcodes with dedicated description (label) in
private database

•generate both QR codes and ordinary barcodes (EAN-13)

•recognition of colors

•detection the light source

•electronic loupe

•Dropbox integration

and fully operational by voice commands!

Make sure to check the tutorial on
http://seeingassistant.tt.com.pl/en/home/home-tutorial/

to learn how to use our software.


Seeing Assistant Home on the App Store:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeing-assistant-home/id625146680


Best,

Gradimir


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: light detector

The Light detector is still there for me.
Double tap on Menu, then settings, then Reorder channels.
Make sure Light says selected, if it doesn't, double tap it so it
is selected and it will be there.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 6:38 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: light detector


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Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:06 AM
Subject: light detector

I noticed that the light detector that was in Seeing AI is gone.
Is there an alternative?
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Re: Mesh router accessibility

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

From an accessibility standpoint I had an easy time both with the 
TP-Link range as well as the Eero range.


The TP-Link has an easy to use web interface to get it set up with its 
range extenders being set up through its iOS app which also is accessible.


The Eero was set up completely via its iOS app and it was fine.

As to whether either could be configured remotely i.e. when not on their 
network I can't say with ultimate certainty.


I hope that helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 6/29/2023 9:03 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all:

I need to get my parents a Mesh router for their home. All they own 
are ipads and iPhones. I’m going to be the one configuring and keeping 
it up. So looking for something accessible.. and easy for them who are 
not high tech to handle if I’m not around. Suggestions?


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Re: Rumble

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

You got further than did I I couldn't even get videos to play in there.

Take good care,

Robin


On 6/21/2023 9:31 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:

Hi all, can any one tell me how to either rewind or fast forward on the rumble 
app? Thanks.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: CVS Pharmacy Spoken Rx for iOS and Android

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I just wanted to jump in and maybe add some clarity and hopefully not 
make things more confusing.


CVS Mail order stopped providing ScripTalk labels as well as Braille as 
of March. I received a phone call about it and was given the option to 
switch to SpokenRX for the long term medications I got via mail order or 
take them elsewhere.  I chose to do the latter and move to Accessible 
Pharmacy who are still providing ScripTalk labels and Braille.


I'm still signed up for CVS SpokenRX so if I ever need to get anything 
at the local CVS in an emergency I can maybe hope to get a label on it.


As to the question about what the labels look like and reinventing the 
wheel.


If you've ever felt a ScripTalk label i.e. a circular sticker affixed to 
the bottom of a pill bottle or the side of a box SpokenRX labels will be 
just like them. And if you've ever held the SpokenRX physical reader 
machine and thought this looks very similar to the ScripTalk reader 
you'd be correct.  Apparently SpokenRX platform from CVS is fueled by 
ScripTalk by Envision America so it is largely the same thing.  In fact 
while the original ScripTalk reader machine can't read CVS SpokenRX 
labels the CVS reader can also do ScripTalk labels.  So should you take 
your prescriptions elsewhere you are not required to return the machine 
and it will work with ScripTalk labels.


Now back to the original question, no I never did have an easy time 
getting the spokenRX labels to read in the CVS app and always found it 
more cumbersome and more steps than just launching the ScripTalk app and 
hitting full or quick scan and getting the job done and that along with 
the convenience of Braille labels is why I switched to another pharmacy.


I hope that helps in some way.

Take good care,

Robin


On 1/22/2023 7:48 PM, ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com wrote:

I use the Mail order portion of CBS.  They offer Script Talk and Braille.  
Wonder why the stores don't offer it?
Tammy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: CVS Pharmacy Spoken Rx for iOS and Android

Just a curiosity question.  I wonder why CVS doesn't use the ScriptTalk system? 
 Seems like they are re-inventing the wheel. JMO God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:51 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: CVS Pharmacy Spoken Rx for iOS and Android

Here is a New York Times article from September 2021  about the Spoken RX and 
other services for the disabled that pharmacies are providing.
There should be a listen button that allows you to hear the article read. Feel 
free to share this link as you see fit, it should allow access without counting 
against your free articles for the month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/health/blind-pharmacies-access.html?unlocked_article_code=ZtKIF-To0lKtTGyNrN7bqGxLhuXWvNFfl8ECjecYKRwjT7utleOK_ku9-7V-dD2bjT299KRobLv8MeMgPy21Sc2lttQbr40oIKDtWaBStewA2ipD5bjEelPvHVGJqzx0p5O5Q6oVlqer-plUshMbBhixVxb61UxyiLoBH5QT2ODdhsLgkAM-Ij5H56UggVWUq8EQm2Wi6YXaR_qPWljB7ZmT6Yg8c_ue9fN-ceUxUEc46g-lgaIZNe1HdzQstYL2X4bGIVfPen_I0uyl8afELI_YoLdb2UYxTIj2QFIGnXL0WCeEzllPUHQQ3LpQ90zrysbjAaDiPIwY68AwsGjzlA&smid=share-url

The article says a label is attached to the bottom of the pill bottle. The 
reader is made by En-Vision America. Also, when the medications reminder 
feature of the current IOS was released, I read that it reads a specialized bar 
code on the bottle that has some information. I tried to get my iPhone to read 
this code but did not have any luck and just put my one medication reminder in 
manually. Did anybody have success with scanning their bottles into the health 
app?


On Jan 22, 2023, at 5:39 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi Mark,

In accordance to Google, the CVS Spoken Rx uses RFID, radio frequency 
identification, to read a tag on your bottle.  I also found this Youtube video 
going over the program that you can check out.  The gentleman doing the video 
is also blind.

https://youtu.be/DtuY2YMjRFw

Hope this helps.

Chris



On Jan 22, 2023, at 2:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Question:  Has anyone got the CVS Spoken Rx feature working?

The day after I posted the podcast transcription to the group, I went to my 
favorite local CVS pharmacy and informed the head pharmacist that I wanted to 
be enrolled in the Spoken Rx program.

He told me that he had attended the training sessions on this and that he would 
enroll me in the program.  I was heartened to learn that two other CVS 
customers had also recently made such a request.

A couple of days later, I received an SMS that my prescription starting with the letter 
"S" was ready for pickup.  This baffled me as SMS notifications always include 
the first 3 letters of a medication name, not just one.

When I arrived at the store, I was told that the Spoken Rx reader

Re: Apple Music Classical

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I wasn't indicating it was right or wrong I was merely asking to gain a 
better understanding in case I'd missed something.


In my former set up with a pair of speakers oriented as you described I 
never had any issues with both speakers being connected with the voice 
assistant. It actually did remarkably well responding from the speaker 
to which I was closest or happened to be facing towards.



One can't learn if one doesn't ask.

As for the Hey sonos assistant I had gotten it to start radio stations 
in the past on a Sonos roam hence my surprise when it suddenly seemed 
less able to execute such functionality.


I hope that clarifies.

Robin


On 4/4/2023 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos 
voice assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good 
job with actual Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping 
speakers, changing volume and so on and that is fine.


As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when 
I recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I 
moved from one room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for 
the voice assistant as well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a 
better way to go as it might be confusing if both microphones listen 
and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet apart which is pretty 
standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if one speaker 
listens.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued 
so will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive 
to requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup 
wizard as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair 
does it merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker 
or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if 
anyone figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin

On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far
that it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a
certain song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for
is to group or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and
also changing volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.

As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in
the Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto
requesting specific music.

*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been
spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And
of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV
but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout
her home and she is very happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
 wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least
for now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that
an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in
the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until
it will be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple
Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a
Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from 
your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing
it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a
big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would
imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical
if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the
Sono

Re: Apple Music Classical

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so 
will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to 
requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup wizard 
as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair does it 
merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker or can 
you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that 
it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain 
song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for is to group 
or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and also changing 
volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.


As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work 
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in the 
Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto 
requesting specific music.


*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled 
by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the 
voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone 
who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very 
happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for
now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an
Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the
works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will
be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music
Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos
surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it
from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big
difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would imagine
that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were
available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Tai Tomasi
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to
play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best
workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play
from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
 wrote:

I am happy with the new classical music app for the most
part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality
is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum
enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or even
instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the
weekend.

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off
the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did
call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.

First, the app is not currently a supported service of the
Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my
residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to
be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.

Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad
free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no
plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.

I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I
do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is
a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so
fa

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I'm sorry from further reading you didn't get the resolution you 
wanted.  I've found that sometimes if the app misbehaves it's best to 
disable all notifications I've set within the app and then re-enabling 
them being careful to be sure my designated place for them when required 
is set. It wouldn't cost anything but a bit of time and effort to give 
that a go if you haven't already.


Take good care,

Robin


On 12/18/2022 11:26 AM, Kathy Blackburn wrote:


This is helpful and encouraging. I will contact him.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

On Dec 18, 2022 10:06 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:

If you submit feedback from within the app's settings area it'll
create an email message beginning with information from the app
regarding its configuration for you after which you can add your
comments regarding the difficulty.  I have found the app's
developer to be extremely responsive in a prompt and timely manner
so don't hesitate to reach out to him. I've no doubt you'll get a
prompt answer and hopefully a good result therein.

Take good care,

Robin


On 12/17/2022 5:16 PM, Kathy Blackburn wrote:

I was going to try that next; thanks for the confirmation.
I've done the app re-installation and restored purchases.
We'll see if it works later this evening.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

On Dec 17, 2022 1:15 PM, Vicky Collins
 <mailto:vcollins5...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really should have
looked there. For, if I had, I would have found this thread:


https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

*From: *Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
*Sent: *Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PM
*To: *VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *Re: I no longer receive notifications from
Weather Gods app

Hi,

Another thing to try is choosing the Pause Notifications
button, then choosing the one to resume.

Best,

Anna

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky Collins
 <mailto:vcollins5...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>

> Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the
very bottom of the list of settings in the app, there is a
Feedback and Help button which brings up an option to
compose an email message when double tapped on.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn
 <mailto:kblac...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

>>

>> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.

>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky
Collins 
<mailto:vcollins5...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking
about restore purchases in the WeatherGods app.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn
 <mailto:kblac...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons
labelled Purchased, Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem
Gift Card or Code, Send Gift Card by Email, Add Money to
Account, Set Up Family Sharing, and Personalized
Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so the list
of recently updated apps appears below those buttons. At
the bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not
finding restore purchases.

>>>>

>>>> Kathy Blackburn

>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky
Collins 
<mailto:vcollins5...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my
account, restore purchases? I lost my notifications as
well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is what did
it for me to bring them back.

>>>>>

>>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>>

>>>>>>>

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Robin Frost]

If you submit feedback from within the app's settings area it'll create 
an email message beginning with information from the app regarding its 
configuration for you after which you can add your comments regarding 
the difficulty.  I have found the app's developer to be extremely 
responsive in a prompt and timely manner so don't hesitate to reach out 
to him. I've no doubt you'll get a prompt answer and hopefully a good 
result therein.


Take good care,

Robin


On 12/17/2022 5:16 PM, Kathy Blackburn wrote:


I was going to try that next; thanks for the confirmation. I've done 
the app re-installation and restored purchases. We'll see if it works 
later this evening.


Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

On Dec 17, 2022 1:15 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:

I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really should have looked
there. For, if I had, I would have found this thread:

https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification

Sent from Mail 
for Windows

*From: *Anna Dresner 
*Sent: *Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PM
*To: *VIPhone Mailing List 
*Subject: *Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

Hi,

Another thing to try is choosing the Pause Notifications button,
then choosing the one to resume.

Best,

Anna

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky Collins
 wrote:

>

> Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the very
bottom of the list of settings in the app, there is a Feedback and
Help button which brings up an option to compose an email message
when double tapped on.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn
 wrote:

>>

>> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.

>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins
 wrote:

>>>

>>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about
restore purchases in the WeatherGods app.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn
 wrote:



 Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled
Purchased, Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code,
Send Gift Card by Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family
Sharing, and Personalized Recommendations. My apps are all up to
date, so the list of recently updated apps appears below those
buttons. At the bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not
finding restore purchases.



 Kathy Blackburn

 kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins
 wrote:

>

> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account,
restore purchases? I lost my notifications as well, and I am
thinking the restore purchases is what did it for me to bring them
back.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn
 wrote:

>>

>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to
check settings. Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though.

>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner
 wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the
app, they started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t
already.

>>>

>>> Best,

>>> Anna

>>>

>>>

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn
 wrote:



 Actually, my subscription is current, but the
notifications still don't come.



 Kathy Blackburn

 kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie
Downey  wrote:

>

> HI Kathy,

>

> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from
Weather Gods also but no longer does.

>

> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2

>

> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this
feature now or that is how it appears.

>

> It's too bad!

>

> Debbie

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn

> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather
Gods app

>

> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one
in the morning and another in the evening, and additional ones in
the event of severe weather. My iPhone

Re: Accessibility of Qardio Arm?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Just to clarify the first cancel button does in fact cancel things it's 
that second one that people might miss as I did that seems to do the trick.


Take good care,

Robin


On 12/3/2022 5:30 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

No, Pressing the next button which also says cancel does not stop it from 
saving it in the history. It just take longer to show up in history. I bet if 
you go back in to history it will be there.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
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Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Qardio Arm?

Hi,

I was just in the app this morning and strangely after taking a reading and 
getting the results there was no next button only a cancel button which of 
course when hit caused your reading not to be saved in history.  I didn't have 
the time to play to see if turning on screen recognition would yield the more 
expected next button that let you proceed with your saving result and then the 
done button or not. I was just curious if anyone else had encountered this new 
seeming glitch with accessibility.

Take good care,

Robin


On 12/3/2022 7:37 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:

We use qardio arm and find it very accessible.  VoiceOver speaks the
readings without a problem, and you can go to the history to email
results.  The email is a .csv file.  I always send it to myself,
because it shows all the readings from the beginning of our use of the
device; then I select what I want and print it for the doctor.  I
don't remember if we needed sighted help setting it up, but I don't
think so.  Pairing wasn't bad, as I recall.  We have had it for at
least three years, though, so I may have forgotten.
At 05:52 PM 12/2/2022, you wrote:

Hi, Group.
I plan to purchase Qardio Arm (Blood pressure monitor.) May I know
how accessible is it?
I would like to hear from someone who has used it, please?
Thanks!

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Re: Accessibility of Qardio Arm?

[Robin Frost]

Hi Julian and all,

Yes it does indeed thank you.  Guess I'd been a bit lax in checking 
readings so hadn't noticed the change till this morning. It didn't help 
my reading either hahaha.


Thanks so much for the tip I appreciate you letting us all know.

Take good care,

Robin


On 12/3/2022 12:55 PM, Julian wrote:

Hi robin,

As of several updates ago, the button that you press to go to the next screen 
is mislabeled. If you look for the button on the lower part of the screen that 
used to be the next button, even though it says cancel, double tap it anyway 
and that will take you to the next screen Where you then look for the done 
button on the upper right to save it to your history. Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 3, 2022, at 10:13 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I was just in the app this morning and strangely after taking a reading and 
getting the results there was no next button only a cancel button which of 
course when hit caused your reading not to be saved in history.  I didn't have 
the time to play to see if turning on screen recognition would yield the more 
expected next button that let you proceed with your saving result and then the 
done button or not. I was just curious if anyone else had encountered this new 
seeming glitch with accessibility.

Take good care,

Robin



On 12/3/2022 7:37 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
We use qardio arm and find it very accessible.  VoiceOver speaks the readings 
without a problem, and you can go to the history to email results.  The email 
is a .csv file.  I always send it to myself, because it shows all the readings 
from the beginning of our use of the device; then I select what I want and 
print it for the doctor.  I don't remember if we needed sighted help setting it 
up, but I don't think so.  Pairing wasn't bad, as I recall.  We have had it for 
at least three years, though, so I may have forgotten.
At 05:52 PM 12/2/2022, you wrote:

Hi, Group.
I plan to purchase Qardio Arm (Blood pressure monitor.)
May I know how accessible is it?
I would like to hear from someone who has used it, please?
Thanks!

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Re: Accessibility of Qardio Arm?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I was just in the app this morning and strangely after taking a reading 
and getting the results there was no next button only a cancel button 
which of course when hit caused your reading not to be saved in 
history.  I didn't have the time to play to see if turning on screen 
recognition would yield the more expected next button that let you 
proceed with your saving result and then the done button or not. I was 
just curious if anyone else had encountered this new seeming glitch with 
accessibility.


Take good care,

Robin


On 12/3/2022 7:37 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
We use qardio arm and find it very accessible.  VoiceOver speaks the 
readings without a problem, and you can go to the history to email 
results.  The email is a .csv file.  I always send it to myself, 
because it shows all the readings from the beginning of our use of the 
device; then I select what I want and print it for the doctor.  I 
don't remember if we needed sighted help setting it up, but I don't 
think so.  Pairing wasn't bad, as I recall.  We have had it for at 
least three years, though, so I may have forgotten.

At 05:52 PM 12/2/2022, you wrote:

Hi, Group.
I plan to purchase Qardio Arm (Blood pressure monitor.)
May I know how accessible is it?
I would like to hear from someone who has used it, please?
Thanks!

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Re: help venmo payment

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I sent a payment Monday and it went through. What I'm not certain of is 
if the app has updated between then and now so that might not help your 
situation.
I'm sorry but as of Monday the payment did go through.  What I can't 
make work is under more there's a button to view all of your friends on 
Venmo and

that button will not work for me with VoiceOver.

Take good care,
Robin


On 11/26/2022 2:20 PM, sari.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Help!

Someone sent me a Venmo request. I chose pay. Then send and it won’t 
go through. Is it a voiceover thing?


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Re: help venmo payment

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I sent a payment Monday and it went through. What I'm not certain of is 
if the app has updated between then and now so that might not help your 
situation.
I'm sorry but as of Monday the payment did go through.  What I can't 
make work is under more there's a button to view all of your friends on 
Venmo and

that button will not work for me with VoiceOver.

Take good care,
Robin


On 11/26/2022 2:20 PM, sari.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Help!

Someone sent me a Venmo request. I chose pay. Then send and it won’t 
go through. Is it a voiceover thing?


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Re: ring app issues

[Robin Frost]

Hey Sieghard,

Once you invoke the hamburger menu are you saying VoiceOver is reading 
the various options including settings properly?


As it only does so here when screen recognition is on. Other wise we 
have unlabelled buttons and blankness just VoiceOver clicks under iOS 
16.1 and the latest version of the Ring app.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/25/2022 12:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


No issues here with Ring and iOS 16, make sure he doesn't have screen 
recognition enabled as this can certainly have the effects you describe.


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Of *sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

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*Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* ring app issues

Hi all:

I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no 
issues with Ring and Voiceover.


A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same 
version will not read anything but the hamburger menu with Voiceover. 
He’s Reinstalled the Ring app. We are trying to figure out if this is 
on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m suspecting Apple.


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Re: ring app issues

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

No I haven't had contact with any one person more than once sadly.

I've contacted both @Amazon and @Ring via email and Twitter via dm and 
have explained the issue at length for months now to no avail as of this 
writing.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/24/2022 9:26 PM, sari.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


I am having no issue. Just spent $250 in Ring equipment so will be 
pissed if accessibility breaks. Do you have a feedback contact?


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2022 7:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: ring app issues

Hi Sarai,

I hesitate to post because I always like to be helpful rather than 
muddying the waters. I can replicate that which your friend reports 
though in my case things got worse once in the hamburger menu and as 
your friend says screen recognition helps but is by no means a full 
solution. I had the issues in iOS15 not just 16 so I don't know that 
it's fair to say it's an Apple issue for if it were it would seem to 
me to be more endemic or system wide rather than app specific. This is 
just my opinion but the Ring app as a whole seems to be regressing in 
terms of accessibility. I've reported these issues to both Amazon and 
Ring so they are known issues and so far no fixes have seemed to be 
forth coming. Speaking strictly for myself in light of this I've begun 
exploring other options that might better serve my use case scenario.


I'm sorry I can't offer any solutions and as I said I hope I haven't 
muddied the waters further. But sometimes it is a comfort to know that 
others can replicate the issues one is experiencing. I wish your 
friend the best of luck should they choose to contact Ring and Amazon 
to join the politely reporting issues advocacy party. 😀


Take good care,

Robin

On 10/24/2022 7:54 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all:

I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no
issues with Ring and Voiceover.

A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same
version will not read anything but the hamburger menu with
Voiceover. He’s Reinstalled the Ring app. We are trying to figure
out if this is on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m suspecting Apple.

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Re: ring app issues

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sarai,

I hesitate to post because I always like to be helpful rather than 
muddying the waters. I can replicate that which your friend reports 
though in my case things got worse once in the hamburger menu and as 
your friend says screen recognition helps but is by no means a full 
solution. I had the issues in iOS15 not just 16 so I don't know that 
it's fair to say it's an Apple issue for if it were it would seem to me 
to be more endemic or system wide rather than app specific. This is just 
my opinion but the Ring app as a whole seems to be regressing in terms 
of accessibility. I've reported these issues to both Amazon and Ring so 
they are known issues and so far no fixes have seemed to be forth 
coming. Speaking strictly for myself in light of this I've begun 
exploring other options that might better serve my use case scenario.


I'm sorry I can't offer any solutions and as I said I hope I haven't 
muddied the waters further. But sometimes it is a comfort to know that 
others can replicate the issues one is experiencing. I wish your friend 
the best of luck should they choose to contact Ring and Amazon to join 
the politely reporting issues advocacy party. 😀


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/24/2022 7:54 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all:

I’m running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I’m having no 
issues with Ring and Voiceover.


A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same 
version will not read anything but the hamburger menu with Voiceover. 
He’s Reinstalled the Ring app. We are trying to figure out if this is 
on Apple’s end or Ring’s.? I’m suspecting Apple.


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VoiceDream Scanner issue

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

I am having an issue with voiceDream Scanner as I said.  I launch it, I 
get one successful scan and then after discarding the result all 
subsequent scans will give an error that says "can not record ok 
button." I also note that the typical something is in view tone doesn't 
sound either. I tried deleting and redownloading the app to no avail.


I'm running it on an iPhone 14 Pro Max running iOS 16.0.2 I believe 
we're at now.



Can anyone else replicate this problem and is there a known fix for it?

Thanks for any light you could shed on this for me.

Take good care,

Robin


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Re: Notification Center problem resolved...

[Robin Frost]

Hi Holly and all,

thanks so much for this tip while it is definitely not a fix and I do 
hope people continue to report this as a bug or an annoying design 
change to restore previous behavior I am grateful for the work-around 
and am so glad you shared it with us all as it makes life in iOS 16 much 
more tolerable and productive.


Thanks once again Holly it and you are appreciated.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2022 4:20 PM, Holly wrote:
Well, I found an answer to the notification bug of not being able to 
open a notification with a double tap on the lock screen.
I remembered that with the latest update, when I got a reminder, the 
‘more’ option which would show up with a one finger flick up was not 
showing up in 16, but someone said to do a single finger triple tap to 
see the options to mark as completed, etc..
Well, I thought I would try that with a text message, and when I did a 
single finger triple tap on the notification, the messages app opened 
and put me in the reply field.
I will try this again with the next text I get, but it has worked 
twice now.

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Re: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Interesting find about the rotor thanks for that. I'm not Richard but 
yes I did pre-order one. 😀


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/19/2022 2:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Could you give a specific example which I could reproduce regarding 
the paste permission prompt?


Here is one I just tried:

1. I was on my home screen with focus on the Facebook app and 
Voiceover said: Facebook, 1 new item


I did a 3-finger quadruple tap and Voiceover said "Facebook, 1 new 
item copied to clipboard.


I then started a new text message and when I was in the message field 
I turned the rotor, swiped up to "Edit" and then flicked down to "Paste".


I double tapped and "Facebook, 1 new item was pasted into the message 
field without any prompts for paste permissions etc.


If you reproduce these steps and also don't get the prompt let me know 
a scenario where you do get it so I can reproduce it.


By the way, have you already preordered a Sub Mini 😂🎁

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2022 11:39 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

I wonder if you have a setting that is allowing you to avoid those 
messages.


I don’t get enough text messages to be bothered by the extra step, but 
the pasting one is a real PITA.


That, or since Apple isn’t seeing it internally, you are just one of 
the lucky ones.


Richard

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thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard


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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2022 11:09 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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Interestingly enough I deleted several text messages which had just 
phone numbers, i.e. they were not in my contacts, and I never received 
the prompt to report them as junk and so far I have not seen the paste 
permission message even though I pasted bits of text into a Facebook 
post and text message earlier this morning.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Donna Casteen

*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2022 7:56 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

And why you are writing Apple about the annoying copy & paste message, 
Please include the annoying Report as Junk iMessage prompt that pops 
up when a contact is not in a person's contact list. There are just 
some phone numbers that I choose not to save or that come from 
multiple different numbers but the same business.


Donna



I have not found one yet and I’m finding this quite irritating as
I do a fair amount of pasting…

I will write Apple Accessibility, and I suggest anyone else do the
same that find this feature annoying. accessibil...@apple.com

Richard

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Pasting Permission in iOS16?

Hi, Group.

Since I have upgraded to iOS16, Voiceover asks for my permission
for pasting text in an edit field whenever I paste text. Is there
a settings anywhere that I can check/uncheck in order to prevent this?

Thanks!

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

If vibrate with sounds was on wouldn't that allow the device to vibrate 
along with the sound emitted?


If not it's disappointing because those who are deaf blind should have 
equal access to this as well.


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/8/2022 10:25 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
things coming out in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.

Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
models over the years.

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
iPhone 14 pro max.

On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
the
A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
and
13 Pro/Pro Max.
Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

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Robles
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
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Sent from my iPhone

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Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
Chime
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Reply-To: tech...@groups.io

 From the Tech-VI list owner:
The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
chime
during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
iPhone
users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
am
pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
source
link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
my
PC
the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
earbuds
or
who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

Original
Source


Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
More
specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
sound
every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
accessibility
features.

Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
part
of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
is
not available for other iPhone models.


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Re: Bluetooth Speakers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

And technically speaking they are in fact bluetooth speakers so not sure 
why it'd not be considered a valid answer to the original question.



Take good care.

Robin


On 7/6/2022 1:35 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:
The Sonos Roam which works on either Bluetooth or WiFi is $189. The 
Sonos Roam SL which does not have A L E X A is $159.

Merv



On Jul 6, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

 I have a power bank with USB charging capabilities, so I would 
imagine the Sonos Portable speaker would charge with that? I’m afraid 
to ask, but how much does that portable speaker cost?


On Jul 6, 2022, at 11:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I would second this. We have one that we use out on the deck, and 
it’s super portable. The only thing I would add is that it does not 
come with any kind of power supply. It only comes with a USB cord. 
So if you want to have a way to charge it other than by connecting 
it to a computer, you’ll need to purchase that separately.

Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Nichole Keck' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


 Well, the Sonos roam is actually very portable.  It probably is 
more than what you’re looking for, but just in point of fact, it is 
portable.  For someone who already uses Sonos in their home, it’s a 
nice complement to devices you already have.  I know this may not 
be the original intent, but I wanted to point it out for others who 
might find this information helpful and are reading this thread.


Nicki,
Sent from my wonderful MacBook Air!
My husband and I have a WhatsApp group to discuss Mac audio 
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 If interested, contact me privately.


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On Jul 6, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


   Exactly. I'm not into "smart" speakers. Just a Bluetooth 
speaker that will work with Mac of iPhone/iPad. And is easily 
moved around.


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On 7/6/2022 8:10 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

I don’t think Sonos uses bluetooth.
Sonos is a wireless sound system, and doesn’t really compare to 
an individual bluetooth speaker.

- Brad -
On Jul 6, 2022, at 09:59, Herbie Allen  
wrote:
Are they plugged into a serge protector? Also, I believe this 
original thread had to do with Bluetooth speakers for the Mac 
which is not the same as a smart speaker experience. Can Sonos 
function as actual Bluetooth speakers?
On Jul 6, 2022, at 09:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Yeah, well, hope yours don’t all blow at the same time.  Let me 
tell you replacing that many involves a hefty price tag.  And I 
will say that when my husband posted our experience to the Sonos 
user list, we very quickly learned that we aren’t the first 
people that that has happened to.

Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 6, 2022, at 7:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via 
MacVisionaries  wrote:


I absolutely love the sound and quality of my Sonos S1 Gen 2 
speakers. We have four pair of them plus a Sonos Beam plus a 
Sonos Roam. Everything works well together. We use a 
combination of Lady A and Hey Sonos to do everything we want to 
do and have been using Sonos for years. We have the apps on our 
iPhones, iPads and windows machines. The only issue I have is 
that the Mac app is not accessible at this time.

Merv


On Jul 6, 2022, at 9:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


HI ET,

I would strongly advise against using Sonos speakers, or at 
least Sonos 1s.  They sound great, but they are hiccuppy with 
Siri - if there’s ever a room that doesn’t play when I tell it 
to, it’s always a room with a Sonos..  Also, about four weeks 
ago, all our four Sonos1s fried at the same time.  I assume we 
had some kind of power surge during the night while we slept, 
but the only place that it was evident was these four 
speakers.  All other appliances were fine, including our Sonos 
Amp and our Sonos Move.  None of our clocks needed to be 
reset, or anything like that. in fact were it not for the 
Sonos, we would never have known the power surge had even 
happened.  None of them was more than two years old.  My 
husband read online about how you can take them apart and 
replace the fuse, so thought he’d give it a try.  When he 
opened up the Sonos, he found that both the fuse and the 
capacitors were fried, as in brown.  It is our feeling that 
there is some kind of design flaw in the Sonos 1s that renders 
them susceptible to this, since none of our other Sonos 
speakers were damaged.  We’re so ticked off that we’ve decided 
to just replace the failed Sonos with the new HomePods when 
they come out.

Cheers,
Donna

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Hi all,
I'd like to get

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

However, it is sometimes helpful to know what the visual symbols or cues 
are so that if a sighted person you know asks for help you can translate 
things into that which they would interact with and understand. I find 
knowing such helpful and intriguing in that context.


Take good care.

Robin


On 4/4/2022 6:53 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

This is why I am a believer in teaching VO separat from visuals. This way, you 
learn how VO  interprets things and you don’t have to worry about differences.


On Apr 4, 2022, at 14:45, Steve Matzura  wrote:

My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out 
something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access shortcuts in 
a different order than the symbols are presented on the screen. For instance, 
in Mail, for Forward (on the Message menu) VO says Command-Shift-F, while the 
graphic shows the symbol for Shift first, then the pinwheel-like symbol for 
Command, then the F. In the thirteen years I've used VO with MacOS, starting 
with Leopard and then Snow Leopard, I've never known or noticed this. In fact, 
I've never bothered to learn the shapes of the graphic symbols for Shift (which 
I think is an up-pointing arrow), Command (the pinwheel), Option (which I think 
is a wavy line or lines), or Control (which I don't know at all). Would 
appreciate some confirmation and claraification on those. But isn't it 
interesting that VO reads them in a different order, which means it's not 
really reading anything at all--it's just reading the text from a symbols 
dictionary for certain things.


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Re: Ring video doorbell

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Yes you can use the app to speak to someone outside though sometimes it 
takes a few more seconds than I'd like to open the app and get to the 
right button. But I also wanted to mention that if you had an Amazon 
Echo you can use newer models to say wake word answer front door or 
wherever you have your bell set up and speak through it as well. Some 
find this method quicker if at home. When done you can say wake word end 
call and there you are.


I hope that helps.

Take good care.

Robin


On 3/26/2022 9:17 AM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Does the ring Doorbell app allow you to speak to the person outside the door so 
that you can find out who it is before you open the door? Just wanted to make 
sure before I bought one.
Thanks very much.
Terrie Terlau

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Subject: Re: Ring video doorbell

My husband and I have a Ring Doorbell and a few spotlight cams. He is sighted, 
so he set up the various camera sensitivities, but I have had no problems using 
the app.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

Yes

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2022, at 10:15, Rafał Marzec  wrote:

Hey everyone
I’ve got a question about Ring video doorbell and their app
accessibility Has anyone using it?

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Re: questions regarding subscriptions for two weather apps, Weather Gods and The Weather Channel

[Robin Frost]

Hi Vicky,

I think as you do I appreciate the time developers put into these apps 
and I realize that not everything worth having is free thus I have no 
problem supporting their efforts to either get multiple types of alerts 
in Weather Gods or to go ad free in The Weather Channel app. Of course 
this doesn't apply to anyone beyond myself I'm just stating that I'm 
willing to do so and the reasons why therein.


Take good care.

Robin (who just got a weather alert now as we speak matter of fact)

☺️

On 3/26/2022 10:23 AM, Vicky Collins wrote:
I do understand what you’re saying, but then  I also like getting all 
the weather alerts.


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:


Personally, I think that there is so much info available about the 
weather that I can't see paying for that kind of info.
When I was a kid I wanted to set up a weather station in the back 
yard.  I recall my dad saying that if you want to know the weather, 
look out the window.

Andy

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*Subject:* questions regarding subscriptions for two weather
apps, Weather Gods and The Weather Channel

First, if memory serves, I purchased Weather Gods a few years ago
and thus was grandfathered into things that are subscription
based now. But I’m still a little confused when I look around in
my account and look at all the various subscriptions and
features. Best I can tell from looking around, we who are
grandfathered into having the features for free have the Premium
plan as the $2.99 monthly and the $29.99 yearly plans both appear
to be grayed out for purchase. However, it looks like the
extended forecast is available for us to purchase but for $1.49
monthly and no yearly plan. Does this look right to those of you
who are also on this older plan? If this were an additional
subscription, although I would prefer a yearly plan, I was kind
of thinking of getting the subscription rather than putting money
in the Tip Jar, although I guess one could do both.

Second, when I look at the subscription choices for The Weather
Channel in my account on the app store, I see Premium Pro Monthly
for $4.99, Premium Pro Annual $19.99, Premium Pro Annual $29.99,
The Weather Channel Premium one month $.99, The Weather Channel
Premium one year $9.99. Does anyone know what’s actually offered
with each of these subscriptions? I first used the few days trial
offered over a year ago, and then I subscribed to the $29.99
version a couple of months ago. I wonder if maybe some of these
options were previously offered but not anymore? Oh, I did also
check the subscription info from pressing enter on my Apple ID in
settings and going to subscriptions that way, and while they were
shown in a slightly different order, the same options were there.

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Re: Can't dictate on my new iPhone Pro Max

[Robin Frost]

        Hi Esther,

Open settings, general and keyboards and near the bottom of the list of 
all choices on that screen you'll find dictation.  Once turned on here 
the button should appear on all edit fields for you.


I hope that helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 3/13/2022 9:51 AM, Esther Levegnale wrote:

Hi, everyone,

As noted in the subject line, I am not able to use the dictate feature 
on my phone.  Any thoughts?  Also, when I am reading my emails, it 
says something about header and footer.  Can't recall the exact words 
right now, but I would like to have that feature eliminated.


Thanks very much.

Esther

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Re: Question about the CVS Pharmacy App and Spoken RX

[Robin Frost]

Hi Dennis and all,

I agree with you. Frankly I'm surprised that ScripTalk as a platform 
wasn't bought up by one of the larger pharmacies in the USA considering 
that it is Envision America's only offering now that I know of I wonder 
how viable it'll remain going forward.  Like you and Anita I do prefer 
it over the CVS RX solution still I think options are good and when one 
has to get something in a pinch if it happens to be at a CVS at least 
there is some solution offered if one needs it. But I agree if one isn't 
into geeky stuff or tinkering with apps as Anita said the CVS does seem 
to be the lesser option. Still I'm glad that they too offer a similar 
reading station as ScripTalk does.


Take good care.

Robin


On 12/23/2021 1:33 AM, Dennis Long wrote:


The CVS one absolutely needs work.  Why they didn’t use the script 
talk is beyond me.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Gadget Girl

*Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2021 10:25 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Question about the CVS Pharmacy App and Spoken RX

Hi there.

If you have not already taken a look at the FREE ScripTalk program, 
You owe it to yourself to check it out. The FREE ScripTalk App and 
FREE Talking Prescription Label Program is through En-Vision America 
who discontinued the ID Mate Talking Barcode Scanner line to focus on 
their ScripTalk Products.


I (and others) found the CVS Talking RX App very cluttered and 
confusing. I took a look at it sometime ago, but decided to stay with 
ScripTalk who has been around longer than the CVS App/Talking RX 
Program. Additionally, the ScripTalk App is non-cluttered and easy to 
use. Moreover, I also have the FREE Loaner ScripTalk Station Device, 
which is also Portable and suitable for Travel, should someone wish 
not to use the ScripTalk Smartphone App, such as some Seniors, etc.


Although I have become an Advocate for Emphasizing Accessible 
Prescription Solutions for Individuals who may have Low-Vision, Print 
Impairments, Blindness, and other Disabilities at the Pharmacy 
Counter, I truly believe in the ScripTalk Program and have been using 
it for Years now. In fact, I got my Pharmacy signed up, and other 
People in the Community use the Program too. I have heard many 
complaints about the Talking RX with similar complaints I had.


I recently did a feature of En-Vision America's ScripTalk Program on 
my new YouTube Channel, Sightless Living. If anyone would like to hear 
about the FREE ScripTalk Program and FREE App, you can See/Hear it 
here: How Do Blind People Take Medication Safely, Independently, and 
With Surety?


https://youtu.be/OY9AC1A3bYU

Best regards,

Anita 🧑🏽‍🦯



    On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Robin Frost 
wrote:



Hi,

Oh dear utilities? I don't even see that. Across the bottom the
only tabs I have currently are:

Home, Show card, account and find store 4 of 4. When I explore the
rest of the screen either by swiping or literally exploring with
one fingertip I'm not seeing utilities, tools or anything that
says spoken rx.

I used to be a smart person ah well.

🤣

Take good care,

Robin

On 12/22/2021 7:02 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

Its buried under utilities i think.



Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro



    On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Robin Frost
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Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds you all happy and well.

I was reading this page about the CVS Spoken RX audible
prescription label platform

https://www.cvs.com/content/pharmacy/spoken-rx?nis=3

and it says the following:

It says:

"Go to the app's Pharmacy section and tap the Spoken Rx icon.
When prompted, hold your tagged prescription within 4
inches of the phone.
The app will scan your tag and start reading the Rx name
and instructions out loud."

I haven't anything to scan but was hoping I could at least
find my way to the icon in the pharmacy section to which
they make reference and I can't seem to spot it anywhere
using VoiceOver. Is it just me? Can anyone else
successfully locate this icon or element and point me to it?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Take good care and enjoy all there is to celebrate this
season.

Robin

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Re: Question about the CVS Pharmacy App and Spoken RX

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Well that sure is not intuitive but I found my way there. Once I tap on 
Pharmacy which I thought I was already in because the home screen has 
many pharmacy referencing things it was under the tools heading least i 
think it was a heading.


Sure wish there were a quicker way to get there but I'm glad I could 
finally follow the path to get there.


Thanks everyone for your help.

Take good care.

Robin


On 12/22/2021 7:02 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

Its buried under utilities i think.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro


On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds you all happy and well.

I was reading this page about the CVS Spoken RX audible prescription 
label platform


https://www.cvs.com/content/pharmacy/spoken-rx?nis=3

and it says the following:

It says:

"Go to the app's Pharmacy section and tap the Spoken Rx icon.
When prompted, hold your tagged prescription within 4 inches of the 
phone.
The app will scan your tag and start reading the Rx name and 
instructions out loud."


I haven't anything to scan but was hoping I could at least find my 
way to the icon in the pharmacy section to which they make reference 
and I can't seem to spot it anywhere using VoiceOver. Is it just me? 
Can anyone else successfully locate this icon or element and point me 
to it?


Thanks in advance for any help.

Take good care and enjoy all there is to celebrate this season.

Robin


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Re: an Instacart question

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Yes I've noticed this along with the fact that now you can't always read 
the replacement item a shopper has picked during shopping or when rating 
an order. I too used to report things that broke in relation to 
accessibility only to see them fixed in short order. However, this is no 
longer the case. I've been complaining about the replacement thing for a 
good 4 months to no avail.


I've tried tweeting at them politely to perhaps reach someone directly 
responsible for app design to no avail.


Sorry I haven't better news but you definitely have company in misery.

Take good care.

Robin


On 12/20/2021 2:32 PM, Lisa Belville wrote:


Yes, I too have noticed this with the past few updates.  It only 
happens in the chat area of the app and makes having a detailed 
conversation with a shopper impossible.



As far as responsiveness goes, yes, sad, but true.  A few months ago I 
gave them a poor review specifically due to the deteriorating 
accessibility.  Ironically, one of the issues I mentioned, that of the 
correct number of stars being spoken when rating a delivery experience 
was corrected soon after that review.  I would like to think that tiny 
review had something to do with it, but I'm probably deluding myself.  





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
On 12/20/2021 10:19 AM, i...@michaelhingson.com wrote:


I have been using the Instacart app for more than two years with a 
great deal of success. However, in the last five months I notice 
that, when chatting with a shopper, the screen refreshes every ten to 
twelve seconds. This means that if I am reading a fairly long message 
from the shopper, the screen refreshes before I complete it and after 
screen refresh I need to start over reading.


Anyone else notice this? Instacart has been unresponsive in 
acknowledging the issue and Apple says they have never seen it.


I should say that this issue occurred with my iPhone XS Max and now 
happens also with my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Any thoughts are appreciated.


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Re: Question about the CVS Pharmacy App and Spoken RX

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Oh dear utilities? I don't even see that. Across the bottom the only 
tabs I have currently are:


Home, Show card, account and find store 4 of 4. When I explore the rest 
of the screen either by swiping or literally exploring with one 
fingertip I'm not seeing utilities, tools or anything that says spoken rx.


I used to be a smart person ah well.

🤣



Take good care,

Robin


On 12/22/2021 7:02 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

Its buried under utilities i think.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro


On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds you all happy and well.

I was reading this page about the CVS Spoken RX audible prescription 
label platform


https://www.cvs.com/content/pharmacy/spoken-rx?nis=3

and it says the following:

It says:

"Go to the app's Pharmacy section and tap the Spoken Rx icon.
When prompted, hold your tagged prescription within 4 inches of the 
phone.
The app will scan your tag and start reading the Rx name and 
instructions out loud."


I haven't anything to scan but was hoping I could at least find my 
way to the icon in the pharmacy section to which they make reference 
and I can't seem to spot it anywhere using VoiceOver. Is it just me? 
Can anyone else successfully locate this icon or element and point me 
to it?


Thanks in advance for any help.

Take good care and enjoy all there is to celebrate this season.

Robin


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Question about the CVS Pharmacy App and Spoken RX

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds you all happy and well.

I was reading this page about the CVS Spoken RX audible prescription 
label platform


https://www.cvs.com/content/pharmacy/spoken-rx?nis=3

and it says the following:

It says:

"Go to the app's Pharmacy section and tap the Spoken Rx icon.
When prompted, hold your tagged prescription within 4 inches of the phone.
The app will scan your tag and start reading the Rx name and 
instructions out loud."


I haven't anything to scan but was hoping I could at least find my way 
to the icon in the pharmacy section to which they make reference and I 
can't seem to spot it anywhere using VoiceOver. Is it just me? Can 
anyone else successfully locate this icon or element and point me to it?


Thanks in advance for any help.

Take good care and enjoy all there is to celebrate this season.

Robin

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Re: strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Microsoft was having an outage only impacting #iOS it isn't just you. 
Hopefully a fix will be forth coming soon. Just wait it out and it 
should resolve shortly.


Take good care.

Robin


On 12/15/2021 9:37 PM, R Van Lant wrote:


/I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced 
this. My resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a 
primary Outlook email account that I sync to the native mail, calendar 
and contacts apps on my iPhone SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also 
check this account via outlook on my laptop.  I have not changed the 
password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got an error message 
when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to re-enter my 
password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter 
the passwords.  The heading said that my account was not 
authenticated.   With both accounts, I attempted to enter my correct 
password, but it would come back with the same screen saying that my 
account was not authenticated.  I went to outlook.live.com on my 
laptop to validate that I was using the correct password and was, 
indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the 
secondary email account is not really needed on my phone, I figured 
I’d just delete that account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I 
did that my primary email account suddenly no longer needed to be 
authenticated and synced again.  All this happened within the last 90 
minutes, based on the time stamp for the previous email update.   I’m 
glad to have my primary email and such working, but bothered that I 
was not having success in authenticating.    Have any of you been 
prompted for passwords, even if you didn’t’ change it? Anything I 
could have been doing wrong? /


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Re: [all-audio] Exact Audio Copy Question

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

No you were correct that's exactly what I was asking. I was just curious 
if anyone had a sample of what to put in there and I was also trying to 
find out why though I set it to rip at 320kbps it wasn't obeying the 
setting to do so. In the end I may go for a different option that seems 
to be working better for me.


Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/10/2021 11:47 AM, John Covici wrote:

In the filename tab, you can put a string with things like
album\artist ... and those directories will be created with those
names -- otherwise I am not sure what you are asking.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 09:57:55 -0500,
Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,

Yes I see its menu option but what I was asking specifically was
exactly what string of code to put in that area to make it do
that which I was seeking or in the configuration wizard where it
gives you naming choices which in the list box would do what I
want? So far I haven't hit upon the right one. I always try a bit
of experimentation before coming to the list to ask questions so
this isn't laziness rather it's truly asking so I can learn.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/10/2021 6:09 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think if you go into the menus and select eac options,  and go into
the filename tab, you will see what you need.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 02:05:44 -0500,
Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

A while back during a discussion of cd rippers, someone
recommended Exact Audio copy. Now that I'm trying it I am left
with one burning question that I hope some kind soul will help me
figure out.

I am trying to get the program when ripping a cd to create the
structure observing the convention of creating artist folder,
album title folder into which to place the individual tracks.

Its default configuration is simply ripping the tracks into the
currently designated folder.

If anyone could provide the string of code needed to accomplish
this and tell me where to put it within the program I'd be very
grateful.

I do hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Take good care.

Robin














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Re: [all-audio] Exact Audio Copy Question

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Yes I see its menu option but what I was asking specifically was exactly 
what string of code to put in that area to make it do that which I was 
seeking or in the configuration wizard where it gives you naming choices 
which in the list box would do what I want? So far I haven't hit upon 
the right one. I always try a bit of experimentation before coming to 
the list to ask questions so this isn't laziness rather it's truly 
asking so I can learn.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/10/2021 6:09 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think if you go into the menus and select eac options,  and go into
the filename tab, you will see what you need.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 02:05:44 -0500,
Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

A while back during a discussion of cd rippers, someone
recommended Exact Audio copy. Now that I'm trying it I am left
with one burning question that I hope some kind soul will help me
figure out.

I am trying to get the program when ripping a cd to create the
structure observing the convention of creating artist folder,
album title folder into which to place the individual tracks.

Its default configuration is simply ripping the tracks into the
currently designated folder.

If anyone could provide the string of code needed to accomplish
this and tell me where to put it within the program I'd be very
grateful.

I do hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Take good care.

Robin









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[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

A while back during a discussion of cd rippers, someone recommended 
Exact Audio copy. Now that I'm trying it I am left with one burning 
question that I hope some kind soul will help me figure out.


I am trying to get the program when ripping a cd to create the structure 
observing the convention of creating artist folder, album title folder 
into which to place the individual tracks.


Its default configuration is simply ripping the tracks into the 
currently designated folder.


If anyone could provide the string of code needed to accomplish this and 
tell me where to put it within the program I'd be very grateful.


I do hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Take good care.

Robin



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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I wanted to mention that I thought they'd made it possible to use older 
models with the newer Honeywell Home app too that app is quite 
accessible by and large I'd say and yes you can mark the unit for the 
most necessary icons you'd need to interact with  in an emergency. I 
have the Lyric t6Pro here.


Some of their newer thermostats are also home kit compatible.

Just last night for some reason no matter what I did in the Honeywell 
app I'd change temperature it'd recognize the change and then put it 
back to what it'd been and this is with no scheduling in use.  Whether 
the temperature really wasn't changing or VoiceOver was just having some 
sort of fit I don't yet know as I didn't have any sighted folk handy at 
the time. However, I could just pop into the Home app and change my 
temperature and it took hold and I was glad to have an alternative.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/3/2021 6:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I'm sure my model is not available. It was put in by the guy who 
installed our AC unit.
I'm not home so I cannot give you the model number, but yes the app 
controls all the features.

Very nice.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." -- Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Thanks Richard,
Which Honey well do tyou have? There are quite few of them. Does the 
app control all the features of the thermostat?

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort 
(tcc) app which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on 
my own, but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,



Richard
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with it." -- Jane Wagner





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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed 
on this list countless number of times. From the past discussions I 
understood that both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably 
accessible thermostats. However, each company makes several models 
which makes it hard to determine which model is the most 
accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, 
and because of this, some models are no longer available while 
newer models are being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get 
your opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, 
honeywell or nest, and which model? Does the installation need a 
technician or it can be done by any handyman?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Hmm interesting I turned all off but sounds including notification 
center and it seems to be fine here I didn't want to see it in 
notification center so gave it a go. Perhaps others can report how it's 
working for them.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/3/2021 9:49 AM, Donna Casteen wrote:

The developer of the westminster Chime app gave me an update. Here is what he 
said:

From: J Luther Barnhart
Date: November 1, 2021 at 1:38:53 PM PDT
To: J Luther Barnhart
Subject: Westminster Chimes and iOS 15


I just submitted a new build of Westminster Chimes to the App Store!

This address the problem of the chimes not playing in iOS 15. Now we just have 
to wait for Apple to approve it.

Part of the problem was that the previous version was not registering for 
anything other than Sounds. That no longer works. Apple wants the end user to 
have total control over their notification experience. So, by default, 
Westminster Chimes will show Banners, and show on the lock screen.

For the best experience, I suggest that you go into Settings > Westminster Chimes 
> Notifications, and turn off “Show in Lock Screen” and “Banners”. Leave 
“Notification Center”  and “Sounds” turned on.

Thank you for your patience, and for your business!

J Luther Barnhart
jlut...@luthersoft.com

Donna


Hello,

I have tried everything to stop it but I cannot either.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 2 Nov 2021, at 18:47, Maria Campbell  wrote:

How do I get Voiceover to stop talking when the chimes go off? Thanks.



Maria Campbell
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On 11/2/2021 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello friends,

For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for compatibility 
with iOS15.

I’ve updated but not tried it yet.

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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Again I don't have this scale but do have their blood pressure monitor 
and if it's any indication set up  was easy as can be and was 
accessible. There was one point at which I had to briefly turn on screen 
recognition to find a register button. But that was the only momentary 
hurtle.


It connects to the phone via bluetooth. You mentioned wi-fi I didn't 
read the documentation for the scale but thought it connected the same 
way but perhaps I'm wrong.  If it does however you shouldn't have any 
issues. When you first open the app it'll ask you which device you have, 
walk you through setting up an account with them and then there's 
usually a tutorial walking you through set up and first usage.


I hope that helps.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 6:28 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
Perhaps they could comment further.

I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
might fit the bill.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM,deblewi...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.

The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
other options.

I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is
that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported
a while.

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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale? 
Perhaps they could comment further.


I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite 
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it 
might fit the bill.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu 
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App 
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to 
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.


The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought 
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time 
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or 
other options.


I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome. 
Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is 
that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported 
a while.


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Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I was so excited when a friend brought me this news this morning.  all 
is working well on my 2 devices and I'm very pleased. As such I took the 
time to email the app's developer at


supp...@luthersoft.com

and tweet to him


@luthersoft


to express my gratitude for its restoration. I also suggested that he 
put a tip jar in its settings area or on his site if he didn't want to 
give Apple a cut so people could contribute to its up keep should they 
see fit to do so. I was one of the first to report its trouble while 
iOS15 was still in beta so I also wanted to be one to express gratitude 
for its restoration to its chiming glory. It makes my heart glad to be 
an appreciative and grateful person. If anyone feels likewise do join me 
in letting him know. I'm sure it can be quite meaningful to a developer 
to not just hear when things break but also when things are going well 
and are being enjoyed.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello friends,

For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for compatibility 
with iOS15.

I’ve updated but not tried it yet.

Malcolm Parfitt



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Re: Problem ending a workout on Apple Watch

[Robin Frost]

Hi Paul,

I know exactly what you are experiencing.  I find that once I flick to 
page 1 exploring around the upper part of the watch screen gets me to 
the pause and end workout area but if I touch the lower part of the 
screen I more times than not run into the music starting and stopping 
stuff with which I do not want to deal. Perhaps that'll help.


Take good care.

Robin


On 10/18/2021 11:26 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I am running Watch OS 8.0.1 on my Apple Watch SE.

I have problems ending a workout such as Outdoor Walk or Core Exercise. Before 
upgrading to Watch OS 8 when I had finished the workout I used to go to the 
appropriate workout and flick down to get to page 1 and then double tap the end 
button. That resulted in a summary of the workout showing duration, average 
heart rate, calories and so on. I then pressed the done button to get back to 
the watch face.

Since upgrading to Watch OS 8 I can no longer reliably get to the page where I 
can end the workout. Instead flicking down gets to a page about playing the 
next music track which does not work because the watch is not set up to play 
music. Note that I do not want to play any music anywhere during the workout. I 
do not know why the workout now wants to play music.

Any thoughts on why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?

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Re: Smart Thermostat Related Question

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Yes they didn't offer much in the way of help. And I did try your 
suggestion as I recall you having mentioning it previously and sadly in 
the case of this unit it did not yield the same result.


Take good care.

Robin


On 10/15/2021 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Have you talked to their tech support? I only have a T5, but all I 
have to do if it disconnects which happens maybe once a year if not 
less is to pull the main unit off the wall cradle and stick it back on 
and it reboots it and then it also reconnects.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* October 15, 2021 4:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Smart Thermostat Related Question

Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

My question regarding smart thermostats people might be using is this.

If the thermostat loses WI-fi connectivity have you found that some 
models just have an easier time re-establishing connectivity once 
again after having been lost?


I have a Honeywell Lyric t6 Pro and while by and large its iOS app is 
accessible when using VoiceOver I find that if it drops its WI-fi 
connection rather than just reconnecting it forces you to go through 
the set up WI-fi process all over again. And while technically now 
that I've applied a tactile marker for the temperature icon in center 
of the units screen and the app is accessible through this process it 
is reporting an error with setting up WI-i. Thus it remains offline.


I have other sorts of smart devices which can seamlessly reconnect if 
nothing has changed with network name and password with no issue. As 
such I was wondering if any of the smart thermostats seem to have an 
easier time doing this than my current model does.


Thanks for any and all thoughts.

Take good care.

Robin

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Smart Thermostat Related Question

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

My question regarding smart thermostats people might be using is this.

If the thermostat loses WI-fi connectivity have you found that some 
models just have an easier time re-establishing connectivity once again 
after having been lost?


I have a Honeywell Lyric t6 Pro and while by and large its iOS app is 
accessible when using VoiceOver I find that if it drops its WI-fi 
connection rather than just reconnecting it forces you to go through the 
set up WI-fi process all over again. And while technically now that I've 
applied a tactile marker for the temperature icon in center of the units 
screen and the app is accessible through this process it is reporting an 
error with setting up WI-i. Thus it remains offline.


I have other sorts of smart devices which can seamlessly reconnect if 
nothing has changed with network name and password with no issue. As 
such I was wondering if any of the smart thermostats seem to have an 
easier time doing this than my current model does.


Thanks for any and all thoughts.

Take good care.

Robin

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Re: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed start time.

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hey Richard and others,
How on earth do you get big Ben to work? I bought it, installed
  it set its notifications as it asked and nothing doing here. I
  miss having my quarter hours chimed if it does that. As I said
  here it's doing a bunch of nothing making me kind of sorry I
  bought it.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/4/2021 10:23 AM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I think it needs to be either running all
the time in the app switcher, or something.  I gave up on it
and am hoping something else comes along.
 
I like Big Ben, but it does kind of take
over your world when it is gonging the hours as they get
larger and larger.
 
 

   
   
  Richard
  “Reality is the leading cause of stress
  for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
   
  My Web site:
  https://www.turner42.com
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
  Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:17 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed
  start time.
  

 
Hi.
 
I’m trying to get Voice Clock to work with
  no stop time. What I mean is I have it start at midnight, and
  it stops at 11:59 p.m., essentially going 24 hours a day. When
  it’s working, it works great. Problem is it stops at the
  indicated time, but it doesn’t start back up. The only way I
  can get it working is to open the app, and it works again
  until the next night.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Larry and all,
Yes that would fix it for me
temporarily but then it'd stop working again. However, as I said
it's been playing nice since the arrival of iOS15.0.1 here
anyway.
Take good care.
Robin

  


On 10/4/2021 6:19 AM, Larry Smith
  wrote:


  
  If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that
  problem. That’s what worked for me and two others who was
  experiencing that issue.
  

  
On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost <robin...@fastmail.com>
  wrote:


  
  Hi,
  I might be late to the
party here so if someone else mentioned this already
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with
iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my
13 Pro Max but is working on another device running a
beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a
fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
  Take good care.
  Robin
  
  
  On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel wrote:
  
  

  My post pointed out
my experience and apart from that I was asking about
bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize
anything.
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: October
2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I
find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  Obviously, one size does not fit all. 
Many of us did in fact find annoying bugs in 15. 
That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked
phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem
before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri
might be a big problem to people with typing
issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of some
just because they don't affect you.
   
  Maria Campbell
  lucky1i...@gmail.com
   
  All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
  --Edmund Burke
  
On
  10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
  
  

  I
can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also
have to weigh how much a particular bug may
impact you against any new features you want to
take advantage of in IOS 15.
   
  
--
Christopher
  (AKA CJ)
Chaltain
  at Outlook
  
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday,
October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I
find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  The
subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear
what major bugs people are dealing with because
I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have
been resolved" etc.
  I
would encourage people also mention what device
they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
   

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I actually thought this was a new
feature rather than a bug but I could be wrong. Interestingly
however, it doesn't always happen. There seems to be no
discernible pattern to when audio messages give you the
attachment designation and then give you the seemingly new audio
listening screen featuring a play button and a time scrubber
element which I find rather helpful for reviewing such messages.
As I said sometimes it appears and sometimes the audio messages
simply play with a double tap on them and I haven't a clue as to
what governs this. I've also noticed that when either recording
or listening to one of these messages if you have auto lock set
to a timed interval such as 5 minutes in my case whether
recording an audio message or listening it's as if the device
doesn't recognize that you're doing something and it'll lock
itself thus either ending your recording rather unceremoniously
or stopping your playback. It's very strange indeed.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/4/2021 2:32 PM, Feliciano Godoy
  wrote:


  
  I am using iPhone 11 with iOS 15.0.1
  since iOS 15, when sending an audio message that is over
three minutes the receiver is getting it as an audio file
attachment rather than an iMessage audio message

The interesting part is that it is displaying as
  if it were to be sent as an iMessage audio message. The send
  via SMS When Internet is not available setting is turned off
  on my settings/messages.


As a voiceover screen reader user, I have
  reported this to Apple Accessibility. They were not able to
  replicate the issue, but we are working together as they are
  asking me several questions. I encourage everyone that is
  experiencI encourage everyone that is experiencing this issue
  to report to Apple. 
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  On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel  wrote:

  


  




  The subject sort of says it. I am
curious to hear what major bugs people are dealing with
because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been
resolved" etc.
  I would encourage people also mention
what device they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since
that of course is not a bug but a new feature and there
will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as
it was.
   
  Also, before you mention the issue
where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the name of an app
in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I
read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility
> Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
  If somebody knows of a good reason
why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to hear it and
while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should
read the app names even with this turned on, turning it
off is a fix/work-around for now especially if it
doesn't have any other consequences.
   
  Another issue which was mentioned
when Applevis released their warning prior to the iOS 15
release about the bugs they experienced or heard about
is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick
through your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how
many people have this problem. As I said above, I use an
iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried
it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11
Pro and it also works fine.
   
  Next is the share sheet, once again
no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently some people
say they are having problems.
   
  Lastly, one problem I do come across
is that Voiceover mispronounces certain things, here are
two sample phrases which contain the name

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Richard and all,
Thanks for replying it's greatly
appreciated.  I tried that and even tried resetting all settings
which brought its own fun and didn't impact the situation for
long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it
seems that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll
take it for as long as it lasts.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
  Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and
see if it works.
  


  
  
  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are
in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
    
  
  
  
  
  

  

  website:
   www.turner42.com
  
  
  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


  On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else
  mentioned this already pardon the repetition.  My most
  significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to
  wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another
  device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device
  specific and a fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
  Weitzel wrote:


  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience
  and apart from that I was asking about bugs others
  experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the
  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the
  more significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did
  in fact find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying
  haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my hey
  Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a
  biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases
  removed from hey Siri might be a big problem to people
  with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the
  problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
  encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also have
  to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you
  against any new features you want to take
  advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17
  PM
  To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the
  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are
  the more significant bugs you still
  experience?
  

 
The
  

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned
  this already pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue
  with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13
  Pro Max but is working on another device running a beta version so
  hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on the horizon.
  One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience and apart
  from that I was asking about bugs others experience, I am not
  trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact
  find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items
  discovered was terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the
  locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem before. 
  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big
  problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing
  the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in
  IOS 15. In addition, you also have to weigh how much a
  particular bug may impact you against any new features you
  want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  viphone@googlegroups.com
  
 On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
The
  subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major
  bugs people are dealing with because I sometimes see
  statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until
  some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I
  would encourage people also mention what device they use,
  my current phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be
  specific instead of saying something "I don't like the new
  Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new
  feature and there will always be things maybe one would
  wish had stayed as it was.
 
Also,
  before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't
  sometimes say the name of an app in the app switcher when
  you flick left, try the fix I read about and posted: go to
  Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
  Motion.
If
  somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should
  be on I'd like to hear it and while I don't necessarily
  disagree that Voiceover should read the app names even
  with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
  for now especially if it doesn't have any other
  consequences.
 
Another
  issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their
  warning prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they
  experienced or heard about is the one where the Wallet app
  crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am
  very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As
  I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never
  happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover
  on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
 
Next
  is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for
  me, but appare

Re: [all-audio] Need Recommendations for CD Ripping Software Other Than iTunes

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps someone might have mentioned this but I believe Exact Audio Copy
accesses databases that work though one of them is a paid option I believe.

https://www.exactaudiocopy.deI hope this helps.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:39 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Need Recommendations for CD Ripping Software Other Than
iTunes

Hi,

 

As the subject line says, I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good CD
ripping software that can also access CD information (such as album titles,
song titles, artist, etc.) from online services? I'd prefer not to use
iTunes at this time.

 

Thanks.

 

Yours Sincerely,

Kelly John Sapergia

Show Host, Production Director, Webmaster

The Global Voice Internet Radio

http://www.theglobalvoice.info

 

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RE: wondering about A new future in IOS 15

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps they're referring to the voice isolation setting for the mic mode when 
on facetime or other calls which appears in control center. This has nothing to 
do with VoiceOver however but it's all I could think that they meant.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: wondering about A new future in IOS 15

Could you explain this? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: September 22, 2021 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wondering about A new future in IOS 15

hi is there the new voice over iceolation future in IOS 15 where only you can 
hear your voice over?

And if so where do you find and and where what does it all do?

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RE: Instacart 7.93.0 issues Don't Update.

[Robin Frost]

Hi Arnold and all,
I just encountered the change in rating and I will report the issue to them as 
well. I took a chance and figured out the sequence in which the stars were in 
but I agree it isn't as easy as the picker. Further when requesting a refund 
the elements for choosing account credit or credit to original method of 
payment don't report their change in status when you select one so you have to 
hope you've gotten it right. Please join me in politely reporting these things 
to them.  It's been my experience that once reported things are addressed 
quickly. Here's hoping that continues. During my delivery today items that 
needed replacing still did report properly though I can't verify which version 
of the app is installed I haven't found that just yet.
Take good care.
Robin


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Schmidt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Instacart 7.93.0 issues Don't Update.

Hopefully it is just me, but I don't think so. After updating, I could not read 
what she needed to replace, it just said elipsis, I got that figured out 
another way. But when I tried to rate my order, it just said star rather than 
telling me how many stars it was. Finally, when I found a text field to send 
them a message about it, not only would braille screen input not work in it, 
when I wanted to correct something, I could not edit it. I do hope they get my 
message and fix this stuff. It is still useable, but not like before. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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Inquiring About Blood Pressure Monitors that interface with iPhones

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I know this has been covered before but in the world of tech things can and 
often do change over time. As such I was curious what if any blood pressure 
monitors that work with iOS apps anyone might be using? Which ones and why? Can 
they be set up independently how accessible are their apps and how accurate do 
you find their measurements to be? Thanks in advance for all replies.
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Re: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
I can still search for a place and place an order but I agree it
  has degraded in its ease of use over the past few months and I'm
  genuinely not sure they care sadly. I and another person I know
  did politely and with as much detail as we could provide report it
  to them for what it's worth.
Take good care.
Robin


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I used DoorDash some months ago and found
  it very accessible. Now it is almost unusable. Has this been
  the experience of anyone else?
 
  
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Caller ID Related Question for Verizon Fios Subscribers

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everybody,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

I myself am an Xfinity Voice subscriber for my home phone line. And one 
of the neat features they had was an Xfinity Connect app for iPhone 
through which you could access a log of prior calls in and outgoing as 
well as push notifications for caller ID in real time. They're also just 
rolling out a feature whereby a caller name will be preceded by a [v] to 
indicate that the number is verified to be from the one calling.


This was very helpful since so many talking caller ID units have been 
discontinued or don't allow you to review things after the fact. Sadly 
Xfinity is discontinuing the app that facilitates this feature for the 
blind. As such out of curiosity I was wondering if Verizon FIOS offered 
anything such as this feature for their voice customers.


If you are an xfinity customer who finds this feature valuable please 
join me in letting them know as they may not have realized how necessary 
this is for blind people especially when call spoofing and spam calls 
are so prevalent.



Take good care.

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Re: New Sonos product about to be announced

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
Sonos does have an email announcement thing to which you can
  subscribe. Since I've purchased directly from them I believe i saw
  its option to subscribe during check out.
I believe it might also be found once you log into your Sonos
  account at their site under your profile even if you hadn't
  purchased from them and have only set up your Sonos account when
  you set up speakers.
I got an email touting the new speaker today but had also seem
  whispers about its eminent arrival in the tech press via Twitter.

Take good care.
Robin


On 3/6/2021 1:09 PM, Richard Turner
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Sieghard,
Are you on some special Sonos list?
I didn’t get any announcement about this
  event.
I’d be interested since I could be
  available at that time to listen.
 
 

   
  Richard
   
  Ralph's
  Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
  object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
   
   
  My
  web site,
  www.turner42.com
   
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: New Sonos product about to be announced
  

 
Hi,
 
Thought I mention this and maybe generate a
  bit of excitement among all of the Sonos fans on this list:
 
Sonos - Join us for a special event
To show our gratitude for your support over
  the years, we’d like to invite you to join us for an exclusive
  first look at the latest addition to the Sonos system.
Tuesday, March 9, 2021
1:00 PM PT 
You’re the reason we get to continue
  innovating, and we’re so excited to share this next step
  forward with you. Keep an eye out for a link to the event.
 
I assume I won't get the link until Monday
  or maybe even Tuesday morning, but I'm sure curious and I was
  really hoping it would finally be a Sonos headset, but based
  on what The Verge has discovered a headset seems to be finally
  in the works, but this event will be for a smaller more
  affordable portable speaker which is meant to compete with
  speakers like the UE Boom 2 and Bose Soundlink Revolve:
 
Sonos confirms March 9th product
launch, hints at smaller portable speaker 
 
Here another article from the Gear Patrol:
 
Sonos Has Something New Coming.
Here's What We Know So Far
 
 
Enjoy,
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Re: a Reliable Weather App

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
I'm way behind in list mail so if others have mentioned this I
  beg your pardon in advance.
I have loved Weather Bug for many years but its most recent 2
  updates have significantly broken accessibility and I've told them
  so via feedback within the app itself and via Twitter.
In short the broken accessibility is most noticeable in its "now"
  summary screen where VoiceOver is now unable to find much of
  anything to voice and on their cards order screen which is where
  one could reorder the order in which the elements of the now
  summary would appear as you swiped through them on screen.
Richard to find the remove ad thing again tap the menu button in
  the top left corner of the screen and with a bit of moving about
  it'll appear again near the settings element on the screen.
  However, sadly even with ads gone the accessibility issues remain.
I did get a response to them acknowledging my submission but not
  indicating when a fix might appear.
I hope that helps.
Take good care.
Robin


On 1/28/2021 3:20 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Well, Weather bug has so many ads it is
  difficult to navigate.
I flicked by something about removing ads,
  but cannot easily find it again.
This one will take lots of patience and
  since I already have a couple other apps that work great for
  my location, I would not recommend this without paying
  whatever it asks for to remove ads.
 
 

   
  Richard
   
  Ralph's
  Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
  object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
   
   
  My
  web site,
  www.turner42.com
   
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: a Reliable Weather App
  

 
This is from asking Siri to find weather
  bug on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/us/app/weatherbug-weather-forecast/id281940292
  

   
  

  Richard


   


  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at
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with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd
listened to what my mother told me when I was young."


  "Why, what did she tell you?"


  "I don't know, I didn't listen."


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Guide To The Galaxy

  
  

  
  

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Re: Two questions relating to sonos Products

[Robin Frost]

  
HI,
Oh that's a riot I did exactly that emailed the CEO this
  morning.  We'll see if it goes anywhere. Maybe I'll contact
  support as well for fun.
Thanks for letting me know.
Yes I was curious what Sieghard would think of my idea of being
  able to have users access some form even if truncated of the logs
  just to discern what component might be causing some connectivity
  issues when they spring up from time to time.
As for me this morning I think the culprit was an Amazon Echo too
  close by when I took it out of the mix all brightened for Sonos
  connectivity.
Thanks again everyone for all responses.
Take good care.
Robin


On 2/3/2021 11:45 AM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I
went to the contact page and used the link:
 
Want
to email our CEO, Patrick Spence, directly? Click here
 
He forwarded my note to a support person.
I was able to ask several follow-up
  questions by replying to that email.
 

  Sieghard has also had good results
calling them.
  Call
800-680-2345
  HTH,
  Richard
   
  Ralph's
  Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
  object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
   
   
  My
  web site,
  www.turner42.com
   
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
      On Behalf Of Robin Frost
  Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Two questions relating to sonos
  Products
  

 
Hi Richard sorry for the stray reply I didn't mean to send it
  privately. My apologies.
did you initiate support through
  a web form or an email address?
  Interestingly you can actually duplicate favorites in My Sonos
  between stations that appear in Sonos Radio and Tune In I did
  that to compare to see if there was any difference and there
  is not.  I've already written to TuneIn themselves but will
  contact Sonos as well. As I said i"m curious how you initiated
  your contact. I'm assuming everything starts with web forms
  these days.
  Robin

  On 2/3/2021 8:17 AM, Richard Turner
wrote:


  I cannot help with the second question as
I am quite new to Sonos.

  
I noticed that the TuneIn issue is that
  Sonos is tied to the regular TuneIn not even the TuneIn
  pro app.
  
  
I have TuneIn Pro from the days when
  they would let you record shows even without paying for
  premium. So, my long list of favorite stations are in
  TuneIn Pro. When I got the Sonos speakers, none of those
  favorites were there.
  
  
I downloaded the regular TuneIn, added
  a few favorites, and wala, they showed up on Sonos. 
  
  
And yes, it seems that Sonos Radio
  either overlaps with TuneIn, or actually moves them from
  TuneIn into the Sonos favorites.
  
  
I do not have TuneIn Premium, but if I
  were you I would use airplay to send TuneIn to the
  speakers to avoid the ads.
  
  
Or, if you didn't, ask Sonos what is
  going on. I found after writing the executive, who
  forwarded my question to someone in support, they were
  quite fast in replying to my questions when I just replied
  to the support email.
  
  
 

  
Richard
  
  
 
  
  
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at
  times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock
  with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
  asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd
  listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
  
  
"Why, what did she tell you?"
  
  
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
  
  
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's
  Guide To The Galaxy
  


      
 

Re: Two questions relating to sonos Products

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi Richard sorry for the stray reply I didn't mean to send it
  privately. My apologies.
did you initiate support through a web form or an email address?
  Interestingly you can actually duplicate favorites in My Sonos
  between stations that appear in Sonos Radio and Tune In I did that
  to compare to see if there was any difference and there is not. 
  I've already written to TuneIn themselves but will contact Sonos
  as well. As I said i"m curious how you initiated your contact. I'm
  assuming everything starts with web forms these days.
  Robin
  

On 2/3/2021 8:17 AM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  I cannot help with the second question as I am quite new to Sonos.
  I noticed that the TuneIn issue is that Sonos is tied to the
regular TuneIn not even the TuneIn pro app.
  I have TuneIn Pro from the days when they would let you
record shows even without paying for premium. So, my long list
of favorite stations are in TuneIn Pro. When I got the Sonos
speakers, none of those favorites were there.
  I downloaded the regular TuneIn, added a few favorites, and
wala, they showed up on Sonos. 
  And yes, it seems that Sonos Radio either overlaps with
TuneIn, or actually moves them from TuneIn into the Sonos
favorites.
  I do not have TuneIn Premium, but if I were you I would use
airplay to send TuneIn to the speakers to avoid the ads.
  Or, if you didn't, ask Sonos what is going on. I found after
writing the executive, who forwarded my question to someone in
support, they were quite fast in replying to my questions when I
just replied to the support email.
  


  Richard
  
  
  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when
I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse,
and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I
really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I
was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  On Feb 3, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  




  Hi,
  I hope this finds all happy and
  well.
  My first question has to do with
  listening to radio stations via Sonos. I’m curious why
  it is that when searching for a station many often
  have entries appearing under “SonosRadio” as well as
  “TuneIn.” There doesn’t seem to be any advantage of
  picking one over the other though for a while it
  seemed that picking the Sonos Radio entry got you
  fewer ads before a Tune In stream started though this
  is now not the case. On a related note I do subscribe
  to Tune In Premium which seems to suppress  ads when
  listening via their app on my iDevice but there
  doesn’t seem to be a way to sign into one’s Tune In
  premium account via Sonos.
  Strangely when summoning Tune In
  stations via an Apple HomePod Mini I haven’t had any
  ads before a stream starts yet and I haven’t a clue
  why.
  Secondly I know that some on this
  list participate in sonos beta testing and some have
  been long time users and are much more knowledgeable
  than I myself am thus I pose this question.
  In the good old days Sonos used to
  have a support feed on Twitter through which you could
  find instant help almost any time of the day. Through
  that you could run a diagnostic check provide the
  number generated and some kind soul would quickly comb
  through the resulting log file and help you get to the
  root of the issue. Now that this is no longer
  available you’re left to call their support line or
  use the forums. All that having been said I’m
  wondering if there is a means by which users could run
  a diagnostic and access the resulting information for
  instance if having drop-outs to discern which speaker
  is the one having connectivity issues? If such means
  currently do not exist perhaps those who participate
  in betas or have more contac

Two questions relating to sonos Products

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I hope this finds all happy and well.
My first question has to do with listening to radio stations via Sonos. I'm 
curious why it is that when searching for a station many often have entries 
appearing under "SonosRadio" as well as "TuneIn." There doesn't seem to be any 
advantage of picking one over the other though for a while it seemed that 
picking the Sonos Radio entry got you fewer ads before a Tune In stream started 
though this is now not the case. On a related note I do subscribe to Tune In 
Premium which seems to suppress  ads when listening via their app on my iDevice 
but there doesn't seem to be a way to sign into one's Tune In premium account 
via Sonos.
Strangely when summoning Tune In stations via an Apple HomePod Mini I haven't 
had any ads before a stream starts yet and I haven't a clue why.
Secondly I know that some on this list participate in sonos beta testing and 
some have been long time users and are much more knowledgeable than I myself am 
thus I pose this question.
In the good old days Sonos used to have a support feed on Twitter through which 
you could find instant help almost any time of the day. Through that you could 
run a diagnostic check provide the number generated and some kind soul would 
quickly comb through the resulting log file and help you get to the root of the 
issue. Now that this is no longer available you're left to call their support 
line or use the forums. All that having been said I'm wondering if there is a 
means by which users could run a diagnostic and access the resulting 
information for instance if having drop-outs to discern which speaker is the 
one having connectivity issues? If such means currently do not exist perhaps 
those who participate in betas or have more contacts at Sonos could join in 
requesting such if they too feel it'd be a valuable resource for users to be 
able to access even if only an abbreviated log file just highlighting the 
component having issues..
I did email the CEO's email address for whatever that is or isn't worth with my 
thoughts.
Take good care.
Robin

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Re: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
This poster stole my thunder I was gonna post and say wait till
  you hear the sub but since he got here first I'll just say I
  resisted it for ages because I didn't want to spend the money and
  I thought that I'd not be able to move it into place due to my
  petite size and its weight. But Sieghard and others said try it
  and you won't regret it.  I did as thankfully Sonos offered a
  Klarna payment plan and oh my stars does it give a new facet to
  the experience. I wonder if the store Richard went to had a sub on
  display if so give it a listen you will love it too.
My only Sonos related question of late is when you search for
  stations it shows stations often in both sonos radio and Tune in
  but when you play a station from sonos radio you still sometimes
  hear the tune in intro sounder anyway so one wonders what the
  purpose is of having both listings.


Take good care and happy listening one and all.
Robin


On 1/10/2021 9:14 PM,
  dfibr...@gmail.com wrote:


  
  
  
  
Richard.
 
At some point, you may want to save up and
  get the sub gen 3. I have it paired with a sonos beam and 2
  1sl speakers and it sounds amazing through my TV and into my
  computer.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Richard
  Turner
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 6:07 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer
  

 
We don’t want to completely break the bank
  just yet.
 
The way our living room is set up, I’m
  thinking the sound bar will do a great job.
 
It should be here in a couple more weeks.
 
 

   
  Richard
   
  Ralph's
  Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
  object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
   
   
  My
  web site, www.turner42.com
   
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer
  

 
Richard,
 
I’m pretty sure those of
us with Sonos already 
Arent’ surprised,
And yeah the price is
the biggest issue with sonos and of course other products
from other manufacturers. 
 
But great choice
although I myself would have put some sonos 1 speakers in
your lounge / living room area as rear speakers from your
sound bar.
 
I find they do give a
great surround feature to the sound bars etc.

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 6:36 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer
  

 
Hello all,
This is a very long email, so be
prepared, or just go ahead and hit delete.
 
I have to say, I was a huge sceptic
concerning the Sonos system.  I was under the impression
that they were all too expensive.
Then, my wife and I had someone come in
from a local audio store to give us an estimate and
suggestions on how best to get audio in our kitchen and two
office spaces.
We have a 1923 house that has lath and
plaster construction which is difficult to deal with if you
start talking about cutting holes into the ceiling or walls,
so I was hoping for either a wired method that could go
through the floors or something wireless.
After he spent about 30 minutes with us
and looking at various options, he came down to recommending
a Sonos amplifier and 3 remote Sonos One speakers for the
other rooms.
The amplifier would allow us to keep our
current receiver and wired bookshelf speakers and have TV
sound everywhere, etc.
I might have gone with that except for
two things.  They wanted to charge about $350 for
installation and after consulting with Sieghard from this
list, I realized that I could do the installation easily
with the app and that a Sonos sound bar would make more
sense for the living room than the 

Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

It should be noted that this app is no longer supported by its maker 
who's been bought out by another company. Thus no new in app purchases 
will go through.


The Weather Channel offers lightning alerts as does Storm Shield though 
the latter is a paid subscription but it is very similar to Weather 
Radio right down to the alert sound. Sadly no existing weather apps that 
I know offer the lightning all clear alert that weather radio alert used 
to feature but there are options for lightning alerts in general as I've 
indicated above. I hope that helps.


Take good care.

Robin


On 1/1/2021 9:42 AM, Wren Langley wrote:

Hi,
Thank you for the instructions. I did what you said, and when I got to purchase 
the lightning alert I double tapped on it and all I would say is loading 
product from App Store then it didn’t go any further. Your instructions were 
great.

Any other thoughts? Thanks. I hope I can figure this out because I do really 
like this app.

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:

Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has been 
$4.99 per year.

Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will need 
to be registered.

When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list of your 
saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If you continue 
swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does not take you to the 
bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read down the list again. So,  
place your finger in the lower left corner (about a half inch from the Bottom). You 
should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when swiping to the right, You should hear: 
Purchase Lightning, Add Location, Share, Settings, and Play Audio. selecting 
Purchase Lightning will take you to the Option you are looking for. My subscription 
is still active until next year so my screen displays, 'Lightning Alert Switch 
Button On' and my subscription's Expiry Date. If the subscription has expired, it 
generally would show options to purchase Lightning Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the 
Restore option is to move an active Subscription to a new Device. Once purchased, 
be sure to go to Settings to turn on your preferences for the App, such as 
Lightning & National Weather Service (NWS) Alerts. Note, the 'Back Button' is 
at the top left corner. Hope this helps.

Best,
Anita


On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time I 
try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Happy new year,
God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
That's what I figured but hope springs eternal so I thought I'd
  ask.
I've even witnessed Aira agents having trouble finding and then
  reading them once found.
Ah well.
Take good care.
Robin

On 12/26/2020 7:06 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  In a word, no. 
  Nless the manufacturers decide to standardize where they are,
 I doubt this will be possible without sighted assistance. 
  


  Richard
  
  
  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when
I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse,
and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I
really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I
was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  On Dec 26, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
So were you able to grab any use by dates in the end?
Robin


On 12/23/2020 5:41 PM, Richard
  Turner wrote:


  
  
  
Hi Shane and all,
I was experimenting with the
Smart scan mode on some items in the kitchen.\A0 I
was trying to figure out if there was any way to get
expiration dates reliably.
\A0 
I had a half gallon jug of milk
on the counter and as I was moving the camera
around, a couple of times it said Ten dollars\2026
there is nothing around there that says ten dollars
or looks like a ten dollar bill.
\A0 
I was then on the other side of
the kitchen testing it on can labels and comparing
to Seeing AI, when it again said ten dollars, a
couple of times.
\A0 
I double checked with my wife and
we do not have any ten dollar bills lying around or
anything with those words on it.
\A0 
Just thought you might like to
know.
\A0 
\A0 
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Re: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
So were you able to grab any use by dates in the end?
Robin


On 12/23/2020 5:41 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi Shane and all,
I was experimenting with the Smart scan
mode on some items in the kitchen.  I was trying to figure
out if there was any way to get expiration dates reliably.
 
I had a half gallon jug of milk on the
counter and as I was moving the camera around, a couple of
times it said Ten dollars… there is nothing around there
that says ten dollars or looks like a ten dollar bill.
 
I was then on the other side of the
kitchen testing it on can labels and comparing to Seeing AI,
when it again said ten dollars, a couple of times.
 
I double checked with my wife and we do
not have any ten dollar bills lying around or anything with
those words on it.
 
Just thought you might like to know.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard, in the U.S.
 
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  like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from
  Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space,
  that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when
  I was young."
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Re: Groups.io ?? no email

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
I'm reading reports that the google outage of yesterday was
  larger than first reported and many gmail users are still being
  impacted and are thus bouncing on numerous email list types of
  groups. This could sadly mean the original poster might not see my
  message either if they're not receiving email. But I just wanted
  to let them know it isn't just them and it isn't just this group. 
  Not sure how the outage specifically impacted Google groups but it
  definitely did impact gmail youtube and other services.
Take good care.
Robin


On 12/15/2020 5:53 PM, Simon A Fogarty
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Yeah
I am on a number of lists through groups.io  and there were
a number of folks yesterday having this issue,
 
But
there appears to be no issues today so I’m guessing it is
all back up and working.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2020 5:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Groups.io ?? no email
  

 
Hi all,
Likely cause is failed Google services which
are being restored. Several Groups.IO group owners
(including I) are investigating and sending messages and/or
bounce probes to affected members.
Cheers,
Joseph
 

  
From: 
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On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Groups.io ?? no email
  

 
Hi 

 
Grouips.io just bounced all my own groups so
there are problems at this time.
 

  
Van: 
  viphone@googlegroups.com 
Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 december 2020 16:17
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Groups.io ?? no email
  

 
I’d write the owner of
the specific groups where you are not receiving email and
make sure you are subscribed.
I assume you have
checked your spam/junk folders.
 
 

   
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I am not receiving any
emails from Groups.io on either Outlook or WLM. Is this my
problem or theirs?
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RE: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
An addendum to my earlier call for more to join me in reporting this broken 
accessibility.  While it can be done within the app it can also be done via 
email as both methods end up at the same place. I know some might be more 
comfortable composing emails on their pc’s and the like so I’ll provide the 
email address just in case people would prefer to do that. I believe when this 
is done from within the app it includes information such as your model of 
phone, operating system and current version of the Bible app in use so if 
submitting be sure to include this for their information and edification as 
well. 😂
The email address to which to write would be:
h...@youversion.com<mailto:h...@youversion.com>
Best of luck getting their attention.  Here’s hoping for a fix.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App


Hi Kliph and all,

Sorry to hear that but glad for company in the misery at least.  Please kindly 
join me in reporting it to them.  If more than one person reports it perhaps 
someone will care to take notice.

Take good care.

Robin


On 12/15/2020 9:53 AM, 'Kliph' via VIPhone wrote:
I have the same problem on my iPhoneProMax also, but not my iPadPro 11 inch.  
Its weird.
Are you a Believer or a Christian, need encouragement to stay in the word, 
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On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi,
I hope this finds all happy and well.
I write today because I’m having the strangest issue with an edit field within 
this app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in the talk it over 
area I am finding that the edit field for entering your thoughts activates just 
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t activate no matter 
what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the 
operating system and the same version of the You Version Bible app.
I am wondering if those who are smarter than I am or who are perhaps code 
writers might know what might make an edit field not responsive on a specific 
model of device as opposed to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as 
much information as I can so that when I report that it is still broken perhaps 
if I give them something meaningful with which to work they might be less 
likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 😂
In all seriousness if anyone can add to my understanding of this issue or offer 
a work-around it’d make me ever so happy.
Thanks in advance.
Robin



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Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi Mickey,
Yes that is the correct app as I stated in my first message.
When in that app if you select one of their bible plans often
  times after the daily reading there's a "talk it over" section
  where you can post your thoughts on the reading for that day.  It
  is this specific edit field that is failing for me at least when
  VoiceOver is in play.  It worked just fine on my 11 Pro Max or at
  least would respond to the double tap and hold which isn't the
  standard gesture for activating an edit field but that did work. 
  However, on that 12 Pro Max nothing works for me.  I know someone
  who somehow can get his to work with much trial and error but by
  me nothing but removing VoiceOver from the mix yields any result.
Take good care.
Robin


On 12/15/2020 11:43 AM, Mickey Quenzer
  wrote:


  
  

  Hello Robin:
  are you talking about the Bible
app from  youversion?
I’m trying to find the exact location so I can look at the
edit field on my 10 S max. So if you could give some
specific guidelines like which tab it isin  I’m assuming
it’s in one of the tabs where you communicate with people of
course but it’s hard for me to find the exact spot you’re
talking about.
  Let me know and I’ll be glad to
help.
  
  




  
  
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  From:
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  behalf of Shirley Baker 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:21:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You
  Version Bible App
 
  
  I have this problem using the 6S plus phone. I’ve
only been able to make the double tap and hold gesture work 1 or
2 times. It shouldn’t have to be that difficult to use, in my
opinion.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  






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Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi Richard and all,
I thought about contacting Apple but feared that they'd dismiss
  it as not being their problem since it's specific to an app that
  isn't theirs but couldn't hurt maybe I'll try that.  As far as I
  am aware all settings are the same on both devices by me.  Both
  were set up as new. I've tried it with screen recognition and
  image recognition turned on and off just for fun and it had no
  impact whatsoever.  If there are any other settings that might be
  relevant you think I should check let me know.
It's my totally uneducated opinion that this might not be an
  Apple thing specific to the 12 Pro Max as it hasn't manifested
  with any other edit field throughout the OS or within this app
  itself.  For instance the edit field in their search or discover
  tab works just fine it's just this one edit field in this one
  area. 

So the mystery just gets stranger and stranger.
Take good care.
Robin


On 12/15/2020 10:05 AM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I don’t’ have comparable devices to test
  on, but is there any difference in the new settings on the
  device with the problem like the Image description or screen
  recognition?
If those new settings are the same on both,
  then it sounds like a 12 pro max issue and perhaps a screen
  recording sent to Apple would help?
Or having them do a screen share and gather
  the diagnostic information to help them nail this one down.
 
 
 

   
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has this to say on the subject of flying.
  There is an art, it says, or rather, a
knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw
yourself at the ground and miss."
  --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe
and Everything, p.59
   
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From: 'Kliph' via VIPhone
   
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You
  Version Bible App
  

 
I have the same problem on my iPhoneProMax
  also, but not my iPadPro 11 inch.  Its weird.

  
Are you a
Believer or a Christian, need encouragement to stay in
the word, struggle with the Bible or prayer?  Then com
join are family of believers.  We take prayer requests,
have friendly discussions about the Bible, even
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bible study sometimes.  Subscribe  here

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  On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Robin
Frost <robin...@outlook.com>
wrote:

 

  
Hi,
  
  
I hope this finds all happy and
well.
  
  
I write today because I’m having
the strangest issue with an edit field within this
app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one
is in the talk it over area I am finding that the
edit field for entering your thoughts activates just
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but
simply won’t activate no matter what I do on an
iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version
14.3 of the operating system and the same version of
the You Version Bible app.
  
  
I am wondering if those who are
smarter than I am or who are perhaps code writers
might know what might make an edit field not
responsive on a specific model of device as opposed
to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as
much information as I can so that when I report that
it is still broken perhaps if I give th

Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi Kliph and all,
Sorry to hear that but glad for company in the misery at least. 
  Please kindly join me in reporting it to them.  If more than one
  person reports it perhaps someone will care to take notice.
Take good care.
Robin


On 12/15/2020 9:53 AM, 'Kliph' via
  VIPhone wrote:


  
  I have the same problem on my iPhoneProMax also, but not my
  iPadPro 11 inch.  Its weird.
  
Are you a Believer or a
  Christian, need encouragement to stay in the word, struggle
  with the Bible or prayer?  Then com join are family of
  believers.  We take prayer requests, have friendly discussions
  about the Bible, even read bible plans together, and even
  a conference room bible study sometimes.  Subscribe  here
  
  committed-walk-with-christ+subscr...@groups.io
  So if you believe Christ died and rose for our sins, then come
  join our family of believers! Doesn't matter what
  your religion is, as long as you believe in Jesus! 
  
  

  On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Robin Frost <robin...@outlook.com> wrote:
  
  

  Hi,
  I hope this finds all happy and well.
  I write today because I’m having the
  strangest issue with an edit field within this app. 
  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in
  the talk it over area I am finding that the edit field
  for entering your thoughts activates just fine with a
  double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t
  activate no matter what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max. 
  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the operating
  system and the same version of the You Version Bible
  app.
  I am wondering if those who are
  smarter than I am or who are perhaps code writers
  might know what might make an edit field not
  responsive on a specific model of device as opposed to
  being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as much
  information as I can so that when I report that it is
  still broken perhaps if I give them something
  meaningful with which to work they might be less
  likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 😂
  In all seriousness if anyone can add
  to my understanding of this issue or offer a
  work-around it’d make me ever so happy.
  Thanks in advance.
  Robin
   
   



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Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

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Hi,
I reported it to them back in August when it first surfaced for
  me then it got better and now it's broken again.  So they are
  aware of it or at least the volunteers that seem to answer emails
  are I assure you. As to whether that information actually reaches
  their app developers is any guess.
Take good care.
Robin


On 12/15/2020 9:51 AM, Mickey Quenzer
  wrote:


  
  

  Hey Robin:
  You might want to report this to
you version so they can look at what’s going on.
  I haven’t seen that situation
where the edit field works for some models but not others. I
don’t have other models to test with. You might also let
accessibility from
Apple know about it
too. Sorry you’re having so much trouble!




  
  
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RE: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
That used to work for me too but now that won’t even work on my 12 Pro Max.  I 
wish it did.
Now I have taken to finding the edit field’s approximate screen location hover 
over it, toggle VoiceOver off with the power button tap on the field and it 
activates then I can turn VoiceOver back on and type into it. I wish double tap 
and hold still worked for me as it used to once upon a time.
Take good care.
Robin


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

Hi,

I have this same problem. How I get around it is do a double tap and hold on 
the edit field and then it will work. I don’t know hwy this happens, but that 
is how i fix it.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Dec 15, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi,
I hope this finds all happy and well.
I write today because I’m having the strangest issue with an edit field within 
this app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in the talk it over 
area I am finding that the edit field for entering your thoughts activates just 
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t activate no matter 
what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the 
operating system and the same version of the You Version Bible app.
I am wondering if those who are smarter than I am or who are perhaps code 
writers might know what might make an edit field not responsive on a specific 
model of device as opposed to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as 
much information as I can so that when I report that it is still broken perhaps 
if I give them something meaningful with which to work they might be less 
likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 😂
In all seriousness if anyone can add to my understanding of this issue or offer 
a work-around it’d make me ever so happy.
Thanks in advance.
Robin


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Trouble with an edit field in the You Version Bible App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I hope this finds all happy and well.
I write today because I’m having the strangest issue with an edit field within 
this app.  Specifically in the bible plans area when one is in the talk it over 
area I am finding that the edit field for entering your thoughts activates just 
fine with a double tap on an iPhone 12 mini but simply won’t activate no matter 
what I do on an iPhone 12 Pro Max.  Both phones are running version 14.3 of the 
operating system and the same version of the You Version Bible app.
I am wondering if those who are smarter than I am or who are perhaps code 
writers might know what might make an edit field not responsive on a specific 
model of device as opposed to being universally broken. I’m trying to gather as 
much information as I can so that when I report that it is still broken perhaps 
if I give them something meaningful with which to work they might be less 
likely to swat me aside like an annoying fly. 😂
In all seriousness if anyone can add to my understanding of this issue or offer 
a work-around it’d make me ever so happy.
Thanks in advance.
Robin


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