Re: Urgent: CMDB class delete

2006-05-09 Thread Michiel Beijen

Murtuza,

Please check this with Remedy: it looks much like
SW00234571  Application-Generate-GUID command generates guids with the
special character [ and server is not able to interpret the value
properly. Instead of [, # is used henceforth in generating GUID.

The thing is this bug is fixed in the latest patch of AR Server 5.1.2!
If what you say is true it should also be fixed in AR System 6.3. I
did not see this SW defect mentioned in any of the release notes for
the AR 6.3 patches.

Regards,
Michiel

On 4/13/06, Murtuza B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi James,

Well my class is stuck in delete pending for a very different reason.
When I created my class, it got generated with a classID that has a square
bracket '[' in it. This causes all searches on the class to fail since [
is a special sql character. So even if you delete the class, the class
manager is unable to find the class for deletion.
The only workaround accd to Remedy is to delete everything manually and
recreate the class hoping it won't get the [ this time.

Regards,
Murtuza.

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:17:22 -0700, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Murtuza:

Check your error logs and look for 65280 failures in the Recon Engine.  I
had that problem until I applied patch 002 for CMDB 1.1.

James McKenzie


On 4/12/06, Murtuza B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello listers,

 We added a class to the CMDB and later had to delete it.
 But this class has got stuck in Delete Pending.

 I will have to manually delete the class ( all related stuff)
 now as per Remedy Support's reply to my ticket.
 But they have not yet given me information on what to delete.

 Can anyone help me with a list of forms that one has to delete the
entries
 from to get rid of the class completely ??

 This is what I could figure out. Anything else ?

 OBJSTR:Pending
 OBJSTR:Class
 OBJSTR:ClassLocale
 OBJSTR:AttributeDefinition
 SHR:SchemaNames
 The BMC_Classname_ form
 The BMC  AST join forms.

 Regards,
 Murtuza.

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How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread Puneet MALIK
Hello All,

I have forgot password of configuration tool.. How can I reset the password 
again?
We are running remedy on UNIX boxes.

Thanks  Regards
Puneet Malik

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Re: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread Michiel Beijen

Puneet,

what 'configuration tool' are you trying to use?
If you forgot your Admin password please refer to arcache and arreload
in the manuals.

Kind regards,
Michiel
The Netherlands

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I have forgot password of configuration tool.. How can I reset the password 
again?
We are running remedy on UNIX boxes.

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Re: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread Puneet MALIK
Hello Michiel,

By configuration tool I mean midtier configuration tool which we can access
machine/port name/arsys/shared/config/config.jsp

Thanks  Regards
Puneet Malik

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Puneet,

what 'configuration tool' are you trying to use?
If you forgot your Admin password please refer to arcache and arreload in
the manuals.

Kind regards,
Michiel
The Netherlands

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 I have forgot password of configuration tool.. How can I reset the 
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 Thanks  Regards
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Re: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread Sam Rx
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Puneet,
 If you are trying to reset the password of Mid Tier configuration then please get the default password string from other Mid Tier's config.properties file (value for arsystem.password). put that in the 
config.properties file on the MT and restart the web server 
This will reset the password to arsystem which is the default password for mid tier.

(this is tested on my Mid Tier on windows, this should hold true for unix too).


Thanks,
Sam
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Re: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread Puneet MALIK
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Hello 
Sam,

Thanks a 
lot.

Puneet

  
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  Sam RxSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:51 PMTo: 
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  configuration tool** 
  Puneet,
   If you are trying to 
  reset the password of Mid Tier configuration then please get the default 
  password string from other Mid Tier's config.properties file (value for 
  "arsystem.password"). put that in the config.properties file on the MT and 
  restart the web server 
  This will reset the password to arsystem which is the default password 
  for mid tier.
  
  (this is tested on my Mid Tier on windows, this should hold true for unix 
  too).
  
  
  Thanks,
  Sam
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  Puneet,what 
'configuration tool' are you trying to use?If you forgot your Admin 
password please refer to arcache and arreload in the 
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Hello All, I have forgot password of configuration tool.. 
How can I reset the password again?  We are running remedy on UNIX 
boxes. Thanks  Regards Puneet 
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Re: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

2006-05-09 Thread abdul . ghani
Hi Puneet

To reset aradmin ARS dbuser password You can comment out line
something similar to

Db-password: i+wkl4GoZXIIhTK66rZzK6haCvFwP7NZE5UF

in ar.conf and restart ARS Service. System will come up with default
password AR#Admin#.


Best Regards

Abdul Ghani MF
Pune,India

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:30 PM
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Subject: How to Rest Password for configuration tool

Hello All,

I have forgot password of configuration tool.. How can I reset the
password again?
We are running remedy on UNIX boxes.

Thanks  Regards
Puneet Malik


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Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Barber
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All,

I'm looking at how to stop wildcard searches on our database - ie. checking for a percentage sign in the summary or description when they perform a search.

I've setup an AL, which checks for 'Summary' LIKE %%%, which I didn't particularly expect to work, and it doesn't. How do I check for wildcards in workflow?

I did suggest that we get FTS, but that didn't go down too well ... finances won't allow it.

Thanks,

Dave
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Flashboard Issue | Remedy Management

2006-05-09 Thread Mudit Chaudhry
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Hi Listers,
We are working on to upgrade our helpdesk 5.5 to the version helpdesk 6.0. Now we are facing a major issue with flashboards displayed on the Remedy Support and Remedy Management consoles. The flashboards displayed there by Default display the tickets assigned to an Individual (that is withField Console View – Myself). However we need to have it display tickets assigned to the Group (Console View – Group). To achieve this we have tried several workflow changes but to no use. 

Now we would like to know what would be the right approach to address this. Has anyone done this? If so it would be great if you can share your experience.

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Re: Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Mike White
I heard the same thing in What's New ARS 6.x last year (04/05).  Apparently
FTS was a 3rd-party product.  Cost went up so Remedy dropped it.  OK as of
6.0.1 (which we run), but apparently not included with ARS 6.3.  I've heard
rumors that an alternative is available with ARS 7.x.

Mike White
Office:  813-978-2192
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FTS is no longer supported from what I understand.


James McKenzie





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All,

I'm looking at how to stop wildcard searches on our database - ie.
checking for a percentage sign in the summary or description when they
perform a search.

I've setup an AL, which checks for 'Summary' LIKE %%%, which I didn't
particularly expect to work, and it doesn't.  How do I check for
wildcards in workflow?

I did suggest that we get FTS, but that didn't go down too well ...
finances won't allow it.

Thanks,

Dave
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v7 Compatability Matrix

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Worts
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Anyone else seen that the v7 compatability
matrix is out.

http://supportweb.remedy.com/Rem/IssuesAndSolutions/CompatibilityMatrix/AR_System_7_0_Compatibility-Matrix_v1_0.htm

Although it does say that v5.1.2 is
still supported. Is that because v7 has not been officially release yet?

Mike.

Michael Worts
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ITIL Service Manager Certified
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Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

2006-05-09 Thread Michiel Beijen

Yes, probably.

AR 7 Administrator and What's new courses are also listed on the Remedy website:

http://www.bmc.com/education/servicemgmt/

Regards,
Michiel

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Anyone else seen that the v7 compatability matrix is out.

http://supportweb.remedy.com/Rem/IssuesAndSolutions/CompatibilityMatrix/AR_System_7_0_Compatibility-Matrix_v1_0.htm

Although it does say that v5.1.2 is still supported. Is that because v7 has
not been officially release yet?

Mike.

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 IGS, Business Consulting Services
 ITIL Service Manager Certified
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Re: Pager Notifications.

2006-05-09 Thread Carl Reenus

Ha, what an ass!



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Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400

Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
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Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Pager Notifications.

:-) Hi list,
:-)
:-)
:-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager. Email 
:-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and for pager 
we :-) should use Send Page or Run Process option to create pager :-) 
notification through command line statement to send a page or run an :-) 
executable.

:-)
:-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to be given 
:-) in the Send Page or Run Process for the pager notification.

:-)
:-) Thanks in  advance. :o)
:-)
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Flashboards

2006-05-09 Thread David Yearsley
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I know this question has been ask before, but I cannot find the answer. We are looking at Flashboards again, have a quote, but I have not been able to find if you need one License for Flashboards or if you need a license for each server? What is the best way to license Flashboards?

Thanks
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Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
I have heard the same thing recently, too.  I see no mention of it on
the Support site as of a few minutes ago, though.  ARS 7 has some cool
new stuff, but it's not a major rewrite.  ITSM 7, on the other hand...

Rick

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Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Rumor has it that ARS 7.0 is to be released today. I heard this at a
ColumnIT event and was not told it was under NDA so I guess it is now
public knowledge.


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:17 AM
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Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Yes, probably.

AR 7 Administrator and What's new courses are also listed on the Remedy
website:

http://www.bmc.com/education/servicemgmt/

Regards,
Michiel

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 Anyone else seen that the v7 compatability matrix is out.

 http://supportweb.remedy.com/Rem/IssuesAndSolutions/CompatibilityMatri
 x/AR_System_7_0_Compatibility-Matrix_v1_0.htm

 Although it does say that v5.1.2 is still supported. Is that because
 v7 has not been officially release yet?

 Mike.

  Michael Worts
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  IGS, Business Consulting Services
  ITIL Service Manager Certified
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Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

2006-05-09 Thread Ford, St John
There is a line in the FTS statement of direction document for v7.0 that
states general availability of v7.0 as mid-May 2006.

Regards, 
StJohn 

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From: Reiser, John J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 May 2006 14:38
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Rumor has it that ARS 7.0 is to be released today. I heard this at a
ColumnIT event and was not told it was under NDA so I guess it is now
public knowledge.


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:17 AM
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Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Yes, probably.

AR 7 Administrator and What's new courses are also listed on the Remedy
website:

http://www.bmc.com/education/servicemgmt/

Regards,
Michiel

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 Anyone else seen that the v7 compatability matrix is out.

 http://supportweb.remedy.com/Rem/IssuesAndSolutions/CompatibilityMatri
 x/AR_System_7_0_Compatibility-Matrix_v1_0.htm

 Although it does say that v5.1.2 is still supported. Is that because 
 v7 has not been officially release yet?

 Mike.

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Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

2006-05-09 Thread Reiser, John J
I think they said ITSM 7 was 60-90 days away. 


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
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I have heard the same thing recently, too.  I see no mention of it on
the Support site as of a few minutes ago, though.  ARS 7 has some cool
new stuff, but it's not a major rewrite.  ITSM 7, on the other hand...

Rick

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Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Rumor has it that ARS 7.0 is to be released today. I heard this at a
ColumnIT event and was not told it was under NDA so I guess it is now
public knowledge.


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: v7 Compatability Matrix

Yes, probably.

AR 7 Administrator and What's new courses are also listed on the Remedy
website:

http://www.bmc.com/education/servicemgmt/

Regards,
Michiel

On 5/9/06, Michael Worts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Anyone else seen that the v7 compatability matrix is out.

 http://supportweb.remedy.com/Rem/IssuesAndSolutions/CompatibilityMatri
 x/AR_System_7_0_Compatibility-Matrix_v1_0.htm

 Although it does say that v5.1.2 is still supported. Is that because
 v7 has not been officially release yet?

 Mike.

  Michael Worts
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  IGS, Business Consulting Services
  ITIL Service Manager Certified
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Does Init-Form: have no effect on Mid-Tier?

2006-05-09 Thread Ben Chernys
Hi Folks,

ARS 6.03.00 patch 013
Mid Tier Version 6.03.00 patch 013 
Web Server Information Microsoft IIS ServletExec/5.0p06 
Operating System Name Windows 2000 
Java Version 1.4.2_03 


Question:  Does the ar.comf Init-Form have no effect on the Mid-Tier?  

If no effect, is there any way to launch a hidden form - ie fire a form through 
an AL on the Home form or login.jsp so that nothing is visible to the user?

Cheers
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Re: Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Barber
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How in gods name did I miss that Muchas gracias, senor!

Regards

Dave

(feeling somewhat embarrassed at missing what was staring at me right in the face)
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According to the Docs (pg 672 ... The wildcards appendix in the BasicGuide for 6.3) you would use something like 
'Summary' LIKE [%]% 
to look for a string that starts with the % sign.

Fred




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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:38 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Restricting SearchesAll,


I'm looking at how to stop wildcard searches on our database - ie. checking for a percentage sign in the summary or description when they perform a search.

I've setup an AL, which checks for 'Summary' LIKE %%%, which I didn't particularly expect to work, and it doesn't. How do I check for wildcards in workflow?

I did suggest that we get FTS, but that didn't go down too well ... finances won't allow it.

Thanks,

Dave
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ARSPerl on HPUX

2006-05-09 Thread Yelizaveta Adlivankina
Thanx to previous messages on ARSList, we were able to get ARSPerl 
installed on HPUX without a problem. However, now any script that I try to 
run seem to return no entries found. When running logs against our server, 
it looks like no select statements are coming through, which leads me to 
believe that the scripts are not resolving the ars_LoadQualifier call 
correctly. Even when passing an empty string into the function, while 
querying against a form with over 10,000 entries, it still returns empty. 
Did anyone come across anything like this? Was the installation incomplete? 
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Shareware : The LOL Tool

2006-05-09 Thread W Scott Russell
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I would like to see a tool like the one you described.

Scott
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Hello list, 
We are running with a server group here and I needed a quick way to be being able to display the available floating licenses, without having to check each server.
If anyone might be interested something like that, just drop me a mail and I'm going to forward a copy. Suppose it's a rare requirement, but perhaps there is 0-1 other peeps who might have an use for that as well.

It runs with v6.3 - the screenshot version runs with hardcoded values for login and server names. The forwarded one will have text fields for that.
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Re: DDE to MS Project

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Klein
Hello,
   I'm brand new to this list and pretty new to Remedy, since February 
06. I would also love more info intergrating MS Project to Remedy.

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Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

2006-05-09 Thread Lai, Canhai
Claire,

Thank you for your suggestion! That is a clever solution but it is a
little more involving.


Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilton, Claire E Ms NGB-ARNG
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Instead of having an attachments field you could make a form to hold
your attachments.  Then you can use workflow to do what you are saying.


Thanks,
Claire 

Claire Tilton
SRA Contractor
Remedy Developer
703.607.7412

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lai, Canhai
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to make an attachment pool read only

Hi All,
 
Is there a way to make an attachment pool read only?
 
The permission tab on an attachment pool doesn't do the job I will like.
With no permission, the attachment pool disappear altogether. What I
want is READ-ONLY: they can see file list and display all files, but
they will not see Add, Delete buttons for any selected attachment.
 
Any suggestion is appreciated!
 
 
Kevin


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Re: ARSPerl on HPUX

2006-05-09 Thread Carey Matthew Black

Yelizaveta,

I do not have anything to directly try to help your problem, but there
is likely a better list for you to post this question.
(arsperl-users@arsperl.org)

So I will cross post this for you in this response. You might want to
watch that list for a response.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.


On 5/9/06, Yelizaveta Adlivankina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanx to previous messages on ARSList, we were able to get ARSPerl
installed on HPUX without a problem. However, now any script that I try to
run seem to return no entries found. When running logs against our server,
it looks like no select statements are coming through, which leads me to
believe that the scripts are not resolving the ars_LoadQualifier call
correctly. Even when passing an empty string into the function, while
querying against a form with over 10,000 entries, it still returns empty.
Did anyone come across anything like this? Was the installation incomplete?
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Does Init-Form: have no effect on Mid-Tier?

2006-05-09 Thread Carey Matthew Black

Ben,

To my knowledge (and v7 might change this) the Mid-Tier completely
ignores this setting.

But.. on the Mid-Tier you have a Home Page and a Preference server
to use too. So you should be able to achieve the same thing with those
features.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.


On 5/9/06, Ben Chernys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Folks,

ARS 6.03.00 patch 013
Mid Tier Version 6.03.00 patch 013
Web Server Information Microsoft IIS ServletExec/5.0p06
Operating System Name Windows 2000
Java Version 1.4.2_03


Question:  Does the ar.comf Init-Form have no effect on the Mid-Tier?

If no effect, is there any way to launch a hidden form - ie fire a form through 
an AL on the Home form or login.jsp so that nothing is visible to the user?

Cheers
Ben Chernys

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Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

2006-05-09 Thread Rudi Funk

Hi,
think you can set the field properties of the attachement pool.
On tab attach field you can define the display label. If you delete a 
label, the function is no more available.

Rudi


Lai, Canhai wrote:


Hi All,

Is there a way to make an attachment pool read only?

The permission tab on an attachment pool doesn't do the job I will like.
With no permission, the attachment pool disappear altogether. What I
want is READ-ONLY: they can see file list and display all files, but
they will not see Add, Delete buttons for any selected attachment.

Any suggestion is appreciated!


Kevin

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Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

2006-05-09 Thread Scott Parrish
If there are certain people who should be able to add/delete/save and others
who should not, it is easiest to remove the add/delete/save lables from the
attachment pool, then add the functionality using buttons and the special
Run Process command for each action. 


Scott Parrish
IT Prophets, LLC
(770) 653-5203
http://www.itprophets.com

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lai, Canhai
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Claire,

Thank you for your suggestion! That is a clever solution but it is a little
more involving.


Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilton, Claire E Ms NGB-ARNG
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Instead of having an attachments field you could make a form to hold your
attachments.  Then you can use workflow to do what you are saying.


Thanks,
Claire 

Claire Tilton
SRA Contractor
Remedy Developer
703.607.7412

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lai, Canhai
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to make an attachment pool read only

Hi All,
 
Is there a way to make an attachment pool read only?
 
The permission tab on an attachment pool doesn't do the job I will like.
With no permission, the attachment pool disappear altogether. What I want is
READ-ONLY: they can see file list and display all files, but they will not
see Add, Delete buttons for any selected attachment.
 
Any suggestion is appreciated!
 
 
Kevin


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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Warren Baltimore
**
Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little more helping. Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not they have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).

On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Preach it, brother!I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there couldonly one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantialcontributors like Phil.But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get awake-up call with a clue-by-4.
** DISCLAIMER **This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters tothis list.This is not telling newbies Go away.This is not anattempt to scare anyone away.My stated comments are my own.
Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.2) You try to fix it yourself.3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have beentried.6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.
The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantialeffort to help themselves.It is intended to be an aid to, not asubstitute for, learning how to do your job.While we were all newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with theproduct, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of thisorganization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skillsand initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bagwith a map, a knife, and a flashlight.Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.
Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying tohelp others by trying to help yourself first.Sergeant-at-Arms:Haul these miscreants away...:)Rick-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd CaldenSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Pager Notifications.Carl,Do you mean that physically or verbally ?In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhapsthat
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking atamanual once in awhile.There are more then a few listers that have atendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
selfhelp on their sideYOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?Doh !!Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materialsnow?My .02
Regards...Gidd-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Pager Notifications.Ha, what an ass!From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Pager Notifications.Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400Got a manual?Ever read it?Been to training?We have, try it.-Original message-
From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon,8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400To: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Pager Notifications.:-) Hi list,:-):-):-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager.Email
:-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and forpager we :-) should use Send Page or Run Process option to createpager :-) notification through command line statement to send a page or
run an :-) executable.:-):-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to begiven:-) in the Send Page or Run Process for the pager notification.
:-):-) Thanks inadvance. :o):-):-) Thanks:-):-) Malli:-):-):-):-):-):-):-) DISCLAIMER::-) This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use
of:-) the intended recipient/s and may contain material that isCONFIDENTIAL:-) AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by othersor:-) copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents
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Remedy Opportunities

2006-05-09 Thread Keith Bunescu
Good Afternoon to you All, 

Turing SMI is a Leading Global Provider of IT Service Management and 
Infrastructure Management Solutions. 
For your Information Turing SMI are a Platinum sponsor of the BMC User 
World in San Francisco in August 2006; as an organization we are looking 
forward to meeting many of you there and do feel free to drop by the 
stand. 

As part of our ongoing Global expansion, Turing SMI will be looking to 
hire a number of individuals for certain positions over the coming weeks, 
post that I will keep you updated on another wave of recruitment that we 
will be undertaking across EMEA, USA and Singapore. 

Presently, I am looking for several positions in the US.

(1) Pre Sales Consultant, BMC Remedy ITSM Arena (Permanent)

(2) 2 x Remedy ARS / ITSM Consultants - (Permanent)

(3) Junior Remedy Consultant - Ideally 12 month’s development experience. 

Many thanks for your time, I appreciate it. Do feel free to discuss in 
confidence. 

Regards, 

Keith Bunescu
US Resource Manager
Direct Line: 1-312-235-3133
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


James Richardson. 
EMEA Resource Manager
Direct Line: 01189 256459
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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View question...

2006-05-09 Thread Rusconi, Ignacio (I.)
Title: View question...
**






 When I import a FORM to production all the data in the Production FORM is deleted


 but what happen if I import a view of a form? 


 Do this delete any data from the form?


Thanks


ARS 5.01 

SQL SERVER 2000






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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Carl Reenus
Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I first 
started.




From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700

Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little more
helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not they
have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.

While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Ha, what an ass!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400

Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
-Original message-
From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Pager Notifications.

:-) Hi list,
:-)
:-)
:-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager.
Email
:-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and for
pager we :-) should use Send Page or Run Process option to create
pager :-) notification through command line statement to send a page or

run an :-) executable.
:-)
:-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to be
given
:-) in the Send Page or Run Process for the pager notification.
:-)
:-) Thanks in  advance. :o)
:-)
:-) Thanks
:-)
:-) Malli
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-) DISCLAIMER:
:-) This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use

of
:-) the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is
CONFIDENTIAL
:-) AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others
or
:-) copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of 

Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

2006-05-09 Thread David Sanders
Unfortunately, I don't think this stops people adding/replacing attachments
using drag-and-drop

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Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Parrish
Sent: 09 May 2006 16:40
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only


If there are certain people who should be able to add/delete/save and others
who should not, it is easiest to remove the add/delete/save lables from the
attachment pool, then add the functionality using buttons and the special
Run Process command for each action.


Scott Parrish
IT Prophets, LLC
(770) 653-5203
http://www.itprophets.com

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lai, Canhai
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Claire,

Thank you for your suggestion! That is a clever solution but it is a little
more involving.


Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilton, Claire E Ms NGB-ARNG
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Instead of having an attachments field you could make a form to hold your
attachments.  Then you can use workflow to do what you are saying.


Thanks,
Claire

Claire Tilton
SRA Contractor
Remedy Developer
703.607.7412

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lai, Canhai
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to make an attachment pool read only

Hi All,

Is there a way to make an attachment pool read only?

The permission tab on an attachment pool doesn't do the job I will like.
With no permission, the attachment pool disappear altogether. What I want is
READ-ONLY: they can see file list and display all files, but they will not
see Add, Delete buttons for any selected attachment.

Any suggestion is appreciated!


Kevin


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Re: View question...

2006-05-09 Thread Frank Caruso
**
No it will not. Also, in version 6 you can import a form and retain the data.I always find it comforting to test these scenarios in development. Create test forms and play around with how ARS handles importing.
On 5/9/06, Rusconi, Ignacio (I.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**










 When I import a FORM to production all the data in the Production FORM is deleted


 but what happen if I import a view of a form? 


 Do this delete any data from the form?


Thanks…


ARS 5.01 

SQL SERVER 2000






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Re: Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Mike White
10-4.  RTFM.  I shouldn't have offered I heard a rumor without first
checking the compatibility matrix for this yet-to-be-released version.  I'm
a little too busy at the moment to do the necessary research.  Should stay
quiet unless armed with all the facts.  No doubt - the compatibility matrix
is a good read.  It's where I start when considering an upgrade.  I'll
check into 7 later this summer.

Mike White
Office:  813-978-2192
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



   
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Mike,

Now that today we see a v7 compatibility matrix on Support web.

BMC Remedy Full Text Search v7 (5) {-- superscript 5}
  (on a v7 server only)
(5) Please see the Statement of Direction on Supportweb for more
information

So, it looks like it will be available in v7. But what the feature
set/cost will be I have no clue yet.

And may other changes too. :)
A good read indeed.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.


On 5/9/06, Mike White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I heard the same thing in What's New ARS 6.x last year (04/05).
Apparently
 FTS was a 3rd-party product.  Cost went up so Remedy dropped it.  OK as
of
 6.0.1 (which we run), but apparently not included with ARS 6.3.  I've
heard
 rumors that an alternative is available with ARS 7.x.

 Mike White
 Office:  813-978-2192
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 Dave:


 FTS is no longer supported from what I understand.


 James McKenzie





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 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: 5/9/2006 2:37 AM
 Subject: Restricting Searches


 **
 All,

 I'm looking at how to stop wildcard searches on our database - ie.
 checking for a percentage sign in the summary or description when they
 perform a search.

 I've setup an AL, which checks for 'Summary' LIKE %%%, which I didn't
 particularly expect to work, and it doesn't.  How do I check for
 

Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Tim Widowfield
Amen, Brother Warren.

One of the reasons I stay subscribed to the ARSLIST is the anti-RTFM nature
of the group.  I can't tell you how many times I've been stuck on some non-ARS
problem at 3:00 AM, and forced myself to search through old Usenet articles.  I
invariably come across the most irritating types of messages known to
humankind, namely:

1.  Some bozo who says, What do you want to do THAT for?  (None ya bizness!)

2.  Some fool who writes, It's clearly explained in the manual.  (Maybe I
don't HAVE the manual.)

3.  Some jerk who posts an incomplete fragment of the code and says, This
ought to work.  (Of course it doesn't work.)

4.  Some waste of protoplasm who shouts, You posted this question in the wrong
group!

5.  Some mouth-breather who says, I've wondered the same thing myself.  Let me
know if you ever figure it out.  (Thanks for chiming in.)

6.  Some heartless villain who points me to a book that I can buy for $49.95. 
(How very Microsoftian.)  

Seriously, sometimes I wonder why I stay in IT.

--Tim

--- Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little more
 helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not they
 have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).
 
 
 On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
  only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
  actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
  contributors like Phil.
 
  But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
  wake-up call with a clue-by-4.
 
  ** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
  this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
  attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.
 
  Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.
 
  1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
  2) You try to fix it yourself.
  3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
  4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
  tidbit of information that might help with that process.
  5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
  tried.
  6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
  7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.
 
  The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
  effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
  substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
  at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
  there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
  who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
  list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
  product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.
 
  Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
  organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
  display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
  and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
  with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.
 
  Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
  help others by trying to help yourself first.
 
  Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)
 
  Rick
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 
  Carl,
 
  Do you mean that physically or verbally ?
 
  In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.
 
  While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
  should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
  manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
  tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
  self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !
 
  Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!
 
  Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materials
  now?
 
  My .02
 
  Regards...Gidd
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 
  Ha, what an ass!
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
  Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400
  
  Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
  -Original 

Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Mayfield, Andy L.
I have taken the admin course for 4.5 and can figure out most of the
simple things, but I am by no means a programmer and struggle at times
getting new features to work. I have always found this list to be very
helpful; the most helpful thing there is actually. I have access to the
manuals online from the Remedy website, but frequently have no idea
where to even begin looking. So I must admit I often try the list before
scouring pdf's, but I have always found folks here to be a great help.

I have actually wished someone would ask a question simple enough that I
could offer an answer (-:


Andy L. Mayfield
System Operation Specialist
Alabama Power Company
Office: 8-226-1805


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first 
started.


From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700

Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little
more
helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not
they
have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get
a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all
newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain
experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to
learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.

While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference
materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Ha, what an ass!


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400
 
 Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
 -Original message-
 From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 

Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
Training I can certainly understand - sometimes employers are too cheap
to send their people to training.  How was it that you were without
manuals?  Were you unable to download them?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first started.


From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700

Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little
more
helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not
they
have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get
a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all
newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain
experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to
learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.

While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference
materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Ha, what an ass!


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400
 
 Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
 -Original message-
 From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Pager Notifications.
 
 :-) Hi list,
 :-)
 :-)
 :-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager.
 Email
 :-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and for
 pager we :-) should use Send Page or Run Process option to create
 pager :-) notification through command line statement to send a page
or

 run an :-) executable.
 :-)
 :-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to
be
 given
 :-) in the 

Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
Ah, Andy, you're alright!  As I stated earlier, so are about 98% of the
rest of the posters.

Sorry if I seemed a little harsh on the other 2% - none of whom are
first time offenders - but sometimes nice don't feed the bulldog.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mayfield, Andy L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

I have taken the admin course for 4.5 and can figure out most of the
simple things, but I am by no means a programmer and struggle at times
getting new features to work. I have always found this list to be very
helpful; the most helpful thing there is actually. I have access to the
manuals online from the Remedy website, but frequently have no idea
where to even begin looking. So I must admit I often try the list before
scouring pdf's, but I have always found folks here to be a great help.

I have actually wished someone would ask a question simple enough that I
could offer an answer (-:


Andy L. Mayfield
System Operation Specialist
Alabama Power Company
Office: 8-226-1805


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first started.


From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700

Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little
more
helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not
they
have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get
a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all
newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain
experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to
learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.

While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference
materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl 

Time/Resource Management Software

2006-05-09 Thread Rosa, Tony
Is anyone aware of any Time Tracking/Resource Management software
applications that are written in ARS?

I have looked at Project Remedies' ActionProgram Manager and am
looking for alternatives for comparison purposes.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Alert Tool errors

2006-05-09 Thread Blodgett, Jamie
HELP!!  This may seem trivial, but I have several users that are getting this 
error and I'm at a loss . . .

I have multiple users that are getting the following error when trying to open 
records from the Alert List:
Cannot find the CLSID for AR System User's COM object. Return error code is 
0x800401f3. Make sure that the correct version of AR System User has been 
installed. 

The Alert tool works fine (giving appropriate alerts, displaying alert list, 
etc.).  It's just when they attempt to go to the record from the alert list.


Now, I've seen the thread regarding 'laziness', so here's what I HAVE tried:
1)  I've tried KB 11455, but it didn't work.
2)  Tried uninstalling, manually deleting all 'left-overs' and reinstalling.


There aren't any specific differences between these users (i.e. they're not 
even on the same support teams, different software, etc.).

Server Environment:
HPUX 11i
Oracle 8.1.7
ARS 5.0.1 (yes, we are unsupported, but have started our upgrade to 6.3 project)

Client Environment:
NT 5.0 bld 2195 SP4
Remedy Client 5.1.2 patch 1238
Remedy Alert 5.1.2

If anyone has had this and have additional ideas . . . my user base is in AUS 
and I'm in the US, so I can't phycially touch their PCs, but I did remote in 
and everything looks fine.


Thanks!!!

Jamie Blodgett
Rinker Materials Corp.
Remedy Application Support  
Office: 561-803-6125
Cell: 772-708-4821



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Re: Alert Tool errors

2006-05-09 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
It sounds like the Alert tool can't find the User tool in the Registry.
Was the User tool and Alert tool installed with an Admin account on the
local PC?

Also, Since you are on patch 1238 of the User Tool,  Patch 1340 fixed
some problems with the Com/OLE object of the User Tool. You might want
to bump the local PCs to a newer User/Alert tool.

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blodgett, Jamie
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Alert Tool errors

HELP!!  This may seem trivial, but I have several users that are getting
this error and I'm at a loss . . .

I have multiple users that are getting the following error when trying
to open records from the Alert List:
Cannot find the CLSID for AR System User's COM object. Return error
code is 0x800401f3. Make sure that the correct version of AR System User
has been installed. 

The Alert tool works fine (giving appropriate alerts, displaying alert
list, etc.).  It's just when they attempt to go to the record from the
alert list.


Now, I've seen the thread regarding 'laziness', so here's what I HAVE
tried:
1)  I've tried KB 11455, but it didn't work.
2)  Tried uninstalling, manually deleting all 'left-overs' and
reinstalling.


There aren't any specific differences between these users (i.e. they're
not even on the same support teams, different software, etc.).

Server Environment:
HPUX 11i
Oracle 8.1.7
ARS 5.0.1 (yes, we are unsupported, but have started our upgrade to 6.3
project)

Client Environment:
NT 5.0 bld 2195 SP4
Remedy Client 5.1.2 patch 1238
Remedy Alert 5.1.2

If anyone has had this and have additional ideas . . . my user base is
in AUS and I'm in the US, so I can't phycially touch their PCs, but I
did remote in and everything looks fine.


Thanks!!!

Jamie Blodgett
Rinker Materials Corp.
Remedy Application Support  
Office: 561-803-6125
Cell: 772-708-4821



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Re: View question...

2006-05-09 Thread Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor
**



Hi, Ignacio.

It looks like you said that you are on ARS 5.01. I 
believe in that version, importing on top of an existing form will blow the data 
away. I think version 6.x was the first version to prevent that from 
occurring.Someone please correct me if I'm 
wrong.

Because of an unfortunate, previousserious data loss 
incident, I was still doing the traditional export all data/import all data up 
until ARS 5.1.2. I think I attempted to import a view in 5.01. I 
don't think it turned out so pretty.

ARS 6.3 will allow one to import a form def on top of an 
existing one withoutblowing away the data. I still can't help but 
have this overkill method of exporting at least the previous day's data; 
depending on when the last backup ran.

In your dev/playground environment.
I would export the form definition AND all the data in the 
form to be on the safe side. Import the new view. See what 
happens. If it fails, import your backup definition. Import the 
data.

Hope that helps,
Michelle


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank 
CarusoSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:49 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: View question...
** No it will not. Also, in version 6 you can import a form and 
retain the data.I always find it comforting to test these scenarios 
in development. Create test forms and play around with how ARS handles 
importing. 
On 5/9/06, Rusconi, 
Ignacio (I.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ** 
   When I 
  import a FORM to production all the data in the Production FORM is 
  deleted 
   but what 
  happen if I import a view of a form? 
   Do this 
  delete any data from the form? 
  Thanks 
  ARS 5.01 SQL 
  SERVER 2000 __20060125___This posting 
  was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Frank CarusoSpecific Integration, Inc.Senior Remedy 
Engineerwww.specificintegration.com703-376-1249 
__20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ 

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opinions please - build vs buy

2006-05-09 Thread John.A Simpson-contr
BMC/Remedy HelpDesk  Change vs ???

background...

TRW Automotive has been using ARS since 1997, all custom/homegrown
HelpDesk  change management. We have one production server, one test
server and one development server. 41 fixed and 63 floats in
production.

My boss's boss, has asked us to evaluate, how much to continue just
buying ARS fixed and floats and 'rolling our own', (my words not hers),
vs buying and then modifying/configuration of an off-the-shelf
HelpDesk and Change Management.

I am asked to compare 3 systems, BMC/Remedy HelpDesk/Change, one other
ARS based solution (Enterprise Service Suite?) plus one additional
non-ARS based solution.


I am hopeful I will get some very helpful opinions/recommendations...



John A. Simpson
TRW Automotive 
Information Systems Program Office
Remedy Global Technical Lead
Fenton MI USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
810-750-2547

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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Carl Reenus
We did not have a support contract at that time, so no I was not able to 
download the manuals.





From: Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:02:02 -0700

Training I can certainly understand - sometimes employers are too cheap
to send their people to training.  How was it that you were without
manuals?  Were you unable to download them?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first started.


From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700

Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little
more
helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not
they
have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get
a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all
newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain
experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to
learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.

While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference
materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Ha, what an ass!


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400
 
 Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
 -Original message-
 From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Pager Notifications.
 
 :-) Hi list,
 :-)
 :-)
 :-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager.
 Email
 :-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and for
 

Re: OT- Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Sanford, Claire
OK, you guys keep throwing my name into this... So I feel like I should
at least make some comment...

Here it is. 

If you are a consultant, someone who bills another company for your
time, regardless of where you are from and what your background is...
You should know your stuff, you should know far more than the basics and
you should have read the manuals/pdfs at some point in your Remedy
career. 

If you are an employee of a company, you hopefully have access to
manuals and pdf files and Remedy support.  Hopefully, when you took the
job as Remedy Admin/Developer, you took the time to read the manuals.  

I have asked many questions on this list over the years.  I will confess
that 1 out of 10 times, I may not have read the manual fully or didn't
fully understand the concept before asking the question.  BUT, I never
presented myself to my employer or anyone else as being an expert, so I
think it is ok.

Where Phil is concerned, I have hired Phil as a consultant and have
learned a lot from him over the years.  Both for a fee and for FREE.
What he gives to the Remedy community in invaluable.  The same goes for
Rick.  I've never hired him (he lives to far away), but have learned a
lot from him too!  Then there is Gidd.  Never hired him, but any time I
have ever asked him a question either on or off the list, I get an
insightful answer!

All that being said... There are some people on this list that are
consultants, that appear not to have been trained properly and appear
not to have bothered reading the manuals/pdf files or the ARSList FAQ.
They do no give any indication of who they are and where they work
(Identify yourself), they do no give any indication of their environment
(Identify your system) and they ask some very basic questions.  Heck, I
can even answer some of them.

This is a fantastic community.  We share all kinds of information.
Humor.  Life events and more.  Sometimes things touch a nerve or rub one
of us the wrong way and threads like this go one until Dan shuts it
down... Oh Dan??? 

So, before you ask what an Active Link is or how to do a Push Fields
action, read the manual/pdf. 

That is my .02 



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:24 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Lazy posters

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?  

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point. 
 
While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including 

Re: opinions please - build vs buy

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Woyton
John, 

There are a *ton* of potential constraints here - functionality, budget, plans
for ITIL implementations, etc. Probably too large to provide a precise
recommendation.

In general, this issue almost always boils down to the question how large is
the gap between what I need and what I can buy?.

If there's a close match between the ITSM suite and your business needs, then
buy.

If the ITSM suite provides *more* than what you need and you don't plan on
implementing the extra features, then build.

If what you need exceeds or varies considerably from what the ITSM suite
provides, then you need to do a bit more analysis to determine if using ITSM
as a starting point is more cost-effective than building from scratch.

A few other items of note - don't forget to include the maintenance costs of
application licenses when doing your comparitive budgets. If you're planning
on a 4 year production run, for example, add 4 years worth of maintenance on
application licenses to the budget when considering a custom build.

Also, a custom app will almost always be closer to your exact needs than the
out of the box products. The question comes into play when considering how
mature your support processes are. In some cases, customers prefer a tool that
already implements better (best?) practices since it can impose some order on
poorly implemented process. If your business processes and rules are
well-defined and understood, using an out of the box product may be too
restrictive and require significant customizations that will exceed the cost
of a custom solution.

Also consider maintainability. Granted, ARS source isn't hard to reverse
engineer to figure out how a custom bit of programming works. This does,
however, introduce some support cost to the mix since technical support for
custom workflow doesn't apply to business logic usually. In other words, if it
works as it was designed, and the design just happens to suck, don't expect
Tech Support to bail you out. :)

Lastly, many of the stock engines are fairly easy to implement in custom apps
- SLA, Approval, etc. While not precisely drop in solutions, they can beef
up custom functionality quite a bit with a minimum of hassel.

Ultimately, if you've already invested in the system and it fits your needs,
don't monkey with it. If the custom apps you're using now don't provide
everything you need or want, then start with what those needs and wants are
and evaluate from there.

Hope this helps!

-Chris Woyton

John.A Simpson-contr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BMC/Remedy HelpDesk  Change vs ???
 
 background...
 
 TRW Automotive has been using ARS since 1997, all custom/homegrown
 HelpDesk  change management. We have one production server, one test
 server and one development server. 41 fixed and 63 floats in
 production.
 
 My boss's boss, has asked us to evaluate, how much to continue just
 buying ARS fixed and floats and 'rolling our own', (my words not hers),
 vs buying and then modifying/configuration of an off-the-shelf
 HelpDesk and Change Management.
 
 I am asked to compare 3 systems, BMC/Remedy HelpDesk/Change, one other
 ARS based solution (Enterprise Service Suite?) plus one additional
 non-ARS based solution.
 
 
 I am hopeful I will get some very helpful opinions/recommendations...
 
 
 
 John A. Simpson
 TRW Automotive 
 Information Systems Program Office
 Remedy Global Technical Lead
 Fenton MI USA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 810-750-2547
 
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Re: OT- Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Woyton
On balance, I agree with Claire completely - consultants *should* know their
stuff up and down.

As to basic questions on the list, however, I disagree to the extent that
participation is optional. As an alternative to RTFM - if someone asks a
super-basic/lazy question of the list and no one responds, it tends to force
them to look elsewhere if the answer is important at all.

Sometimes a polite response of Server Config Guide - pg 48 is enough to get
the point across. Barring that, questions that push the boundaries of laziness
should be met with silence, IMHO, and not scolding. If you don't want to
answer a question, then don't. Whoever asked will eventually get a clue that
effort is expected on their part first before coming to their peers. Better
this than souring a newbie on the list and driving away someone who could be a
valuable resource.

My $.02. :P

-Chris

Sanford, Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, you guys keep throwing my name into this... So I feel like I should
 at least make some comment...
 
 Here it is. 
 
 If you are a consultant, someone who bills another company for your
 time, regardless of where you are from and what your background is...
 You should know your stuff, you should know far more than the basics and
 you should have read the manuals/pdfs at some point in your Remedy
 career. 
 
 If you are an employee of a company, you hopefully have access to
 manuals and pdf files and Remedy support.  Hopefully, when you took the
 job as Remedy Admin/Developer, you took the time to read the manuals.  
 
 I have asked many questions on this list over the years.  I will confess
 that 1 out of 10 times, I may not have read the manual fully or didn't
 fully understand the concept before asking the question.  BUT, I never
 presented myself to my employer or anyone else as being an expert, so I
 think it is ok.
 
 Where Phil is concerned, I have hired Phil as a consultant and have
 learned a lot from him over the years.  Both for a fee and for FREE.
 What he gives to the Remedy community in invaluable.  The same goes for
 Rick.  I've never hired him (he lives to far away), but have learned a
 lot from him too!  Then there is Gidd.  Never hired him, but any time I
 have ever asked him a question either on or off the list, I get an
 insightful answer!
 
 All that being said... There are some people on this list that are
 consultants, that appear not to have been trained properly and appear
 not to have bothered reading the manuals/pdf files or the ARSList FAQ.
 They do no give any indication of who they are and where they work
 (Identify yourself), they do no give any indication of their environment
 (Identify your system) and they ask some very basic questions.  Heck, I
 can even answer some of them.
 
 This is a fantastic community.  We share all kinds of information.
 Humor.  Life events and more.  Sometimes things touch a nerve or rub one
 of us the wrong way and threads like this go one until Dan shuts it
 down... Oh Dan??? 
 
 So, before you ask what an Active Link is or how to do a Push Fields
 action, read the manual/pdf. 
 
 That is my .02 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:24 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: OT: Lazy posters
 
 Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
 only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
 actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
 contributors like Phil.
 
 But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
 wake-up call with a clue-by-4.
 
 ** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
 this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
 attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.
 
 Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.
 
 1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
 2) You try to fix it yourself.
 3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
 4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
 tidbit of information that might help with that process.
 5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
 tried.
 6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
 7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.
 
 The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
 effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
 substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
 at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
 there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
 who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
 list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
 product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of 

ARSLIST web site not up

2006-05-09 Thread Lammey, Peter A.
Title: ARSLIST web site not up
**






I have attempted to navigate to the ARSList.org site but I get this error:


HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)


And I am taken to a Page Cannot be Displayed window.

Is the site down temporarily because of issues or is it down for good?

It seems that this site has been down for some time now.


Thanks

Peter Lammey

ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management

860-766-4761




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Re: ARSLIST web site not up

2006-05-09 Thread Reiser, John J
Title: ARSLIST web site not up
**



Peter,
There appears to be a link problem.
When the URL changes, add an "s" to the word archive or go 
to www.wwrug.organd choose the ARSlist 
link


John J. ReiserSoftware Development AnalystRemedy 
Administrator/DeveloperLockheed Martin - MS2The star that burns twice as 
bright burns half as long.Pay close attention and be illuminated by its 
brilliance. - paraphrased by me



From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lammey, Peter 
A.Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:54 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: ARSLIST web site not 
up
** 

I have attempted to navigate to the ARSList.org site 
but I get this error: 
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not 
found.Internet Information Services (IIS) 
And I am taken to a Page Cannot be Displayed 
window. Is the site down temporarily because 
of issues or is it down for good? It seems 
that this site has been down for some time now. 
Thanks Peter 
Lammey ESPN MIT Technical Services  
Applications Management 860-766-4761 
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it___ 
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Re: ARSLIST web site not up

2006-05-09 Thread Lammey, Peter A.
Title: ARSLIST web site not up
**



Thanks.
That seems to be the issue.
Thanks Peter Lammey ESPN MIT Technical Services  
Applications Management 860-766-4761 



From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John 
JSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:59 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: ARSLIST web site not 
up
** 

Peter,
There appears to be a link problem.
When the URL changes, add an "s" to the word archive or go 
to www.wwrug.organd choose the ARSlist 
link


John J. ReiserSoftware Development AnalystRemedy 
Administrator/DeveloperLockheed Martin - MS2The star that burns twice as 
bright burns half as long.Pay close attention and be illuminated by its 
brilliance. - paraphrased by me



From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lammey, Peter 
A.Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:54 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: ARSLIST web site not 
up
** 

I have attempted to navigate to the ARSList.org site 
but I get this error: 
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not 
found.Internet Information Services (IIS) 
And I am taken to a Page Cannot be Displayed 
window. Is the site down temporarily because 
of issues or is it down for good? It seems 
that this site has been down for some time now. 
Thanks Peter 
Lammey ESPN MIT Technical Services  
Applications Management 860-766-4761 
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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
Ah.  Well, I can sure sympathize with you then.  Learning Remedy isn't
hard when you have some means of reference, but it is pretty daunting
when you don't.

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

We did not have a support contract at that time, so no I was not able to
download the manuals.



From: Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:02:02 -0700

Training I can certainly understand - sometimes employers are too cheap
to send their people to training.  How was it that you were without
manuals?  Were you unable to download them?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first started.


 From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700
 
 Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a
little
more
 helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or
not
they
 have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).
 
 
 On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
 only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
 actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
 contributors like Phil.
 
 But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to
get
a
 wake-up call with a clue-by-4.
 
 ** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
 this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
 attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.
 
 Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.
 
 1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
 2) You try to fix it yourself.
 3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
 4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's
some
 tidbit of information that might help with that process.
 5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
 tried.
 6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
 7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.
 
 The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
 effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
 substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all
newbies
 at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain
experience,
 there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
 who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
 list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with
the
 product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.
 
 Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
 organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here
-
 display to the rest of my professional community that I had the
skills
 and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper
bag
 with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to
learn.
 
 Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying
to
 help others by trying to help yourself first.
 
 Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 
 Carl,
 
 Do you mean that physically or verbally ?
 
 In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point.
 
 While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps
that
 should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at
a
 manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have
a
 tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do
any
 self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !
 
 Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!
 
 Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference
materials
 now?
 
 My .02
 
 Regards...Gidd
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
 
 Ha, what an ass!
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 

Re: Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Carey Matthew Black

Rick,

Or

My first thought was that it is a signal that you might be getting
CMDB as part of the shared part of ITSM. (Even if you have no plans
on using it.) But that is just a guess.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.



On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Was just looking through that document.  Noticed that the CMDB isn't
mentioned.  Since there would be some compatibility issues with that and
ITSM, I found that omission curious.

Rick


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Re: OT- Lazy posters / Insensitive responders

2006-05-09 Thread Timothy Powell
And on the topic of driving away someone who could be a valuable
resource

Sometimes responders get blasted by other responders for not posting the
best technical answer. Let's remember that not all listers have been to the
latest delta class or the PTnT class or (insert class of choice here) that
we just went to. They might be a couple of versions behind us and might not
yet have that knowledge of what the latest and greatest rev can do. They may
have limited knowledge of a 3rd party integration. Or knew somebody who knew
somebody who tried something. Heck, they just may not be as bright. Whatever
the situation, it doesn't matter. When somebody posts a question and they
get a response from a person who is version/training challenged, let's take
that into consideration. If that response was:

1) One of several possible ways to get the job done (even if not the best
approach)
2) Appropriate for the version the responder is on (even though there are
more efficient ways to do it now)

Then don't chop them off at the knees. You have somebody trying to help and
they then get publicly humiliated by somebody that wants to pump up their
ego/image. When that happens, I doubt we'll get many more posts from that
responder. We might try responding with a that's one way to do it, but I
found this works better approach vs. a That's NOT the way to do it and I
can't believe you even posted it approach.

I've seen that type of thing happen before and thought the mention of it fit
into the overall tone of this thread.

Regards,
Tim Powell

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Woyton
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- Lazy posters

On balance, I agree with Claire completely - consultants *should* know their
stuff up and down.

As to basic questions on the list, however, I disagree to the extent that
participation is optional. As an alternative to RTFM - if someone asks a
super-basic/lazy question of the list and no one responds, it tends to force
them to look elsewhere if the answer is important at all.

Sometimes a polite response of Server Config Guide - pg 48 is enough to
get the point across. Barring that, questions that push the boundaries of
laziness should be met with silence, IMHO, and not scolding. If you don't
want to answer a question, then don't. Whoever asked will eventually get a
clue that effort is expected on their part first before coming to their
peers. Better this than souring a newbie on the list and driving away
someone who could be a valuable resource.

My $.02. :P

-Chris

Sanford, Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, you guys keep throwing my name into this... So I feel like I should  at
least make some comment...
 
 Here it is. 
 
 If you are a consultant, someone who bills another company for your  time,
regardless of where you are from and what your background is...
 You should know your stuff, you should know far more than the basics and
you should have read the manuals/pdfs at some point in your Remedy  career. 
 
 If you are an employee of a company, you hopefully have access to  manuals
and pdf files and Remedy support.  Hopefully, when you took the  job as
Remedy Admin/Developer, you took the time to read the manuals.  
 
 I have asked many questions on this list over the years.  I will confess
that 1 out of 10 times, I may not have read the manual fully or didn't
fully understand the concept before asking the question.  BUT, I never
presented myself to my employer or anyone else as being an expert, so I
think it is ok.
 
 Where Phil is concerned, I have hired Phil as a consultant and have
learned a lot from him over the years.  Both for a fee and for FREE.
 What he gives to the Remedy community in invaluable.  The same goes for
Rick.  I've never hired him (he lives to far away), but have learned a  lot
from him too!  Then there is Gidd.  Never hired him, but any time I  have
ever asked him a question either on or off the list, I get an  insightful
answer!
 
 All that being said... There are some people on this list that are
consultants, that appear not to have been trained properly and appear  not
to have bothered reading the manuals/pdf files or the ARSList FAQ.
 They do no give any indication of who they are and where they work
(Identify yourself), they do no give any indication of their environment
(Identify your system) and they ask some very basic questions.  Heck, I  can
even answer some of them.
 
 This is a fantastic community.  We share all kinds of information.
 Humor.  Life events and more.  Sometimes things touch a nerve or rub one
of us the wrong way and threads like this go one until Dan shuts it  down...
Oh Dan??? 
 
 So, before you ask what an Active Link is or how to do a Push Fields
action, read the manual/pdf. 
 
 That is my .02 
 
 
 
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 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL 

Re: Restricting Searches

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
Matt,

That was my first thought, too - maybe they were assuming that it was
bundled with ITSM in some way.  But since CMDB 2.0 will have a different
CDM than 1.2, I think there will be some compatibility issues with those
two versions and ITSM 6 and 7, and that bears detailed listing for
clarity of compatibility.

The other dynamic is that if they plan on offering CMDB as a standalone
product (not sure on that), it would mean that it surely should have its
own line item on the Matrix.

Maybe they're still working out the compatibility issues with CMDB, and
will update the matrix when they've got it all nailed down.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Restricting Searches

Rick,

Or

My first thought was that it is a signal that you might be getting CMDB
as part of the shared part of ITSM. (Even if you have no plans on
using it.) But that is just a guess.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.



On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was just looking through that document.  Noticed that the CMDB isn't 
 mentioned.  Since there would be some compatibility issues with that 
 and ITSM, I found that omission curious.

 Rick


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Re: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
The problem is that we, as a list, are very accommodating of newbies, as
we should be.  Someone will answer just about any question.
Unfortunately, while most learn and begin asking more advanced
questions, a very few do not.  We've tried hinting, we've tried offline
contacts, and they just don't seem to get it.  Oh, well, not everyone
gets to be an astronaut.  

If you want to make the point that I could just ignore those posters or
posts, you're right, I could.  I have for a long time.  I don't condemn
anyone who chooses to offer help to those posters, I simply question
whether true help is being given, or whether we're only enabling them to
continue poor work habits and in the end, be less valuable to their
employers than they could be.

My hope is that all of that small group to whom Phil and I were talking
decide to knuckle down and really learn how to be good ARS developers.

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:58 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Lazy posters

Asking questions that are so fundamental or basic is a waste of
everyone's time and implies a laziness or a mill-type of person placed
in a position they don't belong in.

Wouldn't you consider your response a giant waste of time as well?
Why not just ignore the question if you are on too high of a pedestal to
answer?
That seems like less of a waste of time to me.



From: Tom Mutaffis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:41:48 -0400

I couldn't agree more with both Gidd's and Rick's statements. There are

manuals, Remedy courses / website assets and archived news items that
would 
answer 99.9% of the questions asked by a certain small segment of
people 
associated with this news group. I've belonged to this list, albeit
very 
quietly, for quite a few years and have yet to ask a question. Why... 
Because I feel it is essential to work through problems to develop
one's 
skill set. I've found, when in a real jam, that using Remedy support
assets 
or simply review the archives answers my question. It's a very rare 
situation when one of the aforementioned support assets does not answer
a 
given question.

I read all the newsgroup messages on a daily basis as well since I feel
I 
can learn by watching or monitoring real problems or available
support 
related tools to provide myself with knowledge related to issues I may
not 
have run into or potentially a better way of dealing with a given 
task/issue. This process of working through and/or using already
existing 
assets is what keeps us all on top of our trade. 

Phil said it strongly but what he said Got a manual?  Ever read it?
Been 
to training?  We have, try it is 100% on target. Gidd's and Rick's 
statements are equally 100% on target. The question is... Does that
very 
small segment get it. Probably not...

Tom

Thomas J. Mutaffis
Remedy  Consultant/Administrator/Developer
Simplexity Inc.




- Original Message - From: Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: OT: Lazy posters


Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get
a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have
been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore
organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do 

Re: OT- Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, thanks for asking Claire,

I have decided not to shut down the discussions because it is going
rather well.

A number of very valid opinions have been raised, without, even Phil's
really going over the line of reasonable.

Well, okay, the one guy calling Phil an ass, but I'm getting used to
someone being like that each week.

The long winded points I want to make are:

(the first was my fourth, but decided it is the most important)

4) If you are a Consultant, remember your future clients probably read the
list,
   and will see whether you are worth hiring or not. Enough said.

1) Everyone gets to ask ignorant questions.
   This particular one was asked by a Consultant,
   or at least he works for an off shore consulting firm.
Even he can ask those ignorant questions, we don't have to answer them,
and personally I would not. Not that it was the simplest question I have
seen a consultant ask.

But I don't want to prevent a question now or then from anyone no
matter how simplistic and/or slightly off topic(how do I get a list of
Cities in Canada,US;
is Mexico next on his list of simple web searches?)

2) The record was 40 such questions in two days. People on the list
answered them all. The responses were: Installation Guide Page 5, 23, .
Basics Guide page 8, 12 ...
I tried to stop them politely at around 15 questions by calling her up
and suggesting she try reading the manual and that I had noticed
some frustration on the part of the list (10 emails from folks directly
to me at that point). She screamed at me about how dare I suggest she
do that, and she will post the questions if she wants to.

She asked the next bunch, and to the best of my knowledge she is now
a consultant asking simiiarly bad questions, but answered in more advanced
manuals.

3) If you aren't a Consultant, ask away, and we will help. All of us,
(I am an independant consultant now, but wasn't when I created this list)
were employees with too few resources and time at some point in our careers.

Some of us are consultants with the same issues, so be reasonable, try to
read first, but by all means, if you need our help, that is why the list
exists.

 Daniel
p.s. Claire, you getting to BMC UserWorld this year?
p.p.s. The list of session topics and tutorials is now out, and registration
is open



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: May 9, 2006 14:35
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- Lazy posters


OK, you guys keep throwing my name into this... So I feel like I should
at least make some comment...

snip

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Re: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Tom Mutaffis
I don't believe I personally attacked a single individual in my response. I 
will, however,  now waste a moment to respond to your direct attack on 
myself.


I am a consultant and have been for many years. We all start at the same 
point. At one point or another we're given or assigned to a new product 
involving the process of learning. Since I am paid as a consultant it is my 
responsibility to learn the product utilizing the time honored method of 
studying. That may mean working 8 hours at a site and then spend another 3 
or 4 off-the-clock to ensure I am giving value to my client. By doing it 
the hard way, meaning studying, I can in a fairly short period of time 
become extremely comfortable with the given product. This may mean that a 
task performed when first introduced to the product may have taken a day or 
two can then be performed in 1 or 2 hours because I actually understand the 
product and invested the time to hone my skills.


I suppose we all have different methods of approaching tasks. Some have 
others do the work for them, never invest time using the available tools and 
never add value to their job skills. They will always have a large 
dependency on others to accomplish their job. Being on top means a major 
investment not only in your specific skill but also understanding all the 
peripheral aspects such as networking, server management, other useful 
languages, etc. which allows quick and useful responses to not only 
development but troubleshooting that always accompanies a skill such as 
Remedy. One does have to know where the problem might lay and who the owner 
might be and then have a willingness to assist since the real goal is to 
provide the client with the best possible service one can. To understand the 
clients business in order to assist or guide in business rules used for 
development to help in providing specifications for hardware and network 
requirements. Then providing useful designs, with options and offering 
accurate timelines along with benefits and consequences to not only your 
ideas but the client who typically has a minimal understanding of the 
benefits and limitations of the system and designs.


My approach has always been to give a given project everything I have in 
order to meet the clients goals and project deadlines. This often means 
investing a lot of time initially simply understanding the clients 
environment, then dealing with the often introduced new ideas mid-way 
through the project while still meeting the clients deadline. A 12 hour day 
for the first few weeks and most certainly as the project deadline 
approaches is not uncommon. When new ideas are introduced I also try to 
associate a potential cost regarding the initial deadline which sometime is 
not moveable.


The fact is there are plenty of assets associated with learning almost any 
development environment. It whether one wishes to make the investment and 
add value to one's self. As a consultant I consider it essential if you're 
going to give your client and placement agency what each needs for success. 
Success is shared amongst all.


By no means do I consider myself high on the pedestal as you say. I simply 
feel that as a consultant I should know how to do my job as best as humanly 
possible. Regarding waste of time. Well... I don't think anyone has a 
problem when a person has a problem and states they have tried various means 
to find a solution. However, in recent months there has been a notable 
increase of posts by several who quite obviously haven't taken the time to 
utilize a single resource other than writing to the news group with 
questions that are sometimes as simple as walking the tabs in the Server 
Information dialog or looking at the included help files. This is a waste 
of time for those who actually read each post on a daily basis and when 
select individuals repeatedly do such things it does cause statements such 
as Phil's, Gidd's, Rick's, Susan and Claire to be made. There are some in 
this group such as the aforementioned along with several others who are 
invaluable in what they give. I've never thanked them personally since I am 
typically quite but I will take this opportunity to say thank you now for 
helping me to make myself better in my job and more useful to my clients.


As far as your concerned Carl... I think each and every one of the responses 
made regarding this has been on the line of offering insight, perspective 
and method. Something I think you might learn from.


Tom

Thomas J. Mutaffis
Remedy  Consultant/Administrator/Developer
Simplexity Inc.







- Original Message - 
From: Carl Reenus [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Lazy posters



Asking questions that are so fundamental or basic
is a waste of everyone's time and implies a laziness or a
mill-type of person placed in a position they don't belong in.

Wouldn't you 

Re: Web server instability

2006-05-09 Thread Brian Goralczyk
**
No, we aren't setting the ARTCPPORT variable. Admittedly, I am weak on the tomcat version. I will look up some info on it. But any feedback anybody else that has experienced this problem would be appreciated.As for versions

PROPERTY
VALUE

Mid Tier Version
6.03.00 patch 013

Installation Directory
/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31/webapps/arsys

Web Server Information
Apache Tomcat/4.1.31

Operating System Name
Linux

Java Version
1.4.2Thanks,Brian GoralczykOrbitz.comOn 5/8/06, 
George Barsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**
Did you try to set the ARTCPPORT variable (i.e. export ARTCPPORT=12345) in the Tomcat start up script? That did it for us a while ago and I think that it's not yet resolved in patch 13.George

On 5/8/06, Brian Goralczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
**
Now don't yell at me...but we are run ARS 6.3.0 and Midtier 6.03.00 patch 013. It does happen during the day, but heavy load is relative, and if this server considers this heavy load, I certainly don't. We rarely have more than 50 concurrent users on the server, and I know less than half are using the mid-tier.
On 5/6/06, George Barsan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
**
Hi Brian,Please specify the ARS/Midtier version and patch set you're using .. Does it happen during business hours - probably under heavy load?
GeorgeOn 5/4/06, 

Brian Goralczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




**
All,Looking for some ideas or at least a common knowledge of this issue.We are running a mid-tier installation using tomcat and it keeps crashing every few days. I have logging turned on, but I am not finding anything spectacular in the logs to explain why it is blowing up.
Also, when it does die, and I restart it, the flashboards seems to act lost. We have one that the query line is 'Assigned To' = $USER$ and everytime it refreshes it pulls back a different users records. Is it very odd.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.And for the record, the mid-tier and flashboards app are on the same machine, which is a different machine than the AR app.Thanks again,





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Re: View question... solved

2006-05-09 Thread Rusconi, Ignacio (I.)
**



problem solved.
thanks


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank 
CarusoSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:49 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: View question...
** No it will not. Also, in version 6 you can import a form and 
retain the data.I always find it comforting to test these scenarios 
in development. Create test forms and play around with how ARS handles 
importing. 
On 5/9/06, Rusconi, 
Ignacio (I.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ** 
   When I 
  import a FORM to production all the data in the Production FORM is 
  deleted 
   but what 
  happen if I import a view of a form? 
   Do this 
  delete any data from the form? 
  Thanks 
  ARS 5.01 SQL 
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Re: View question...

2006-05-09 Thread Rusconi, Ignacio (I.)
**



thanks, Michelle, you were right.. when you said "I 
dont think it turned out so pretty"!!! jajaj this is a 
mess
maybe 1 work hour or 2



From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucero, Michelle 
- IST contractorSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:59 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: View question...
** 

Hi, Ignacio.

It looks like you said that you are on ARS 5.01. I 
believe in that version, importing on top of an existing form will blow the data 
away. I think version 6.x was the first version to prevent that from 
occurring.Someone please correct me if I'm 
wrong.

Because of an unfortunate, previousserious data loss 
incident, I was still doing the traditional export all data/import all data up 
until ARS 5.1.2. I think I attempted to import a view in 5.01. I 
don't think it turned out so pretty.

ARS 6.3 will allow one to import a form def on top of an 
existing one withoutblowing away the data. I still can't help but 
have this overkill method of exporting at least the previous day's data; 
depending on when the last backup ran.

In your dev/playground environment.
I would export the form definition AND all the data in the 
form to be on the safe side. Import the new view. See what 
happens. If it fails, import your backup definition. Import the 
data.

Hope that helps,
Michelle


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank 
CarusoSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:49 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: View question...
** No it will not. Also, in version 6 you can import a form and 
retain the data.I always find it comforting to test these scenarios 
in development. Create test forms and play around with how ARS handles 
importing. 
On 5/9/06, Rusconi, 
Ignacio (I.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  ** 
   When I 
  import a FORM to production all the data in the Production FORM is 
  deleted 
   but what 
  happen if I import a view of a form? 
   Do this 
  delete any data from the form? 
  Thanks 
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Engineerwww.specificintegration.com703-376-1249 
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orphaned field on form view

2006-05-09 Thread Jim Ashton
Hello.

Has anyone encountered the situation of having an orphaned or lost 
field on a form view?  I have a web (fixed fields) view of the AST:Asset 
form (SchemaID 191 in my arschema table on SQL Server) which is supposed to 
have a Search Bar form action field (FieldID 1005), but which I cannot find 
anywhere on the form, either in the view in which it is supposed to be 
located or in any other view.

The field does exist in the field table.
The query select * from field where schemaid=191 and fieldid=1005 yields 
one record with a field name of Search Bar

The field does NOT exist in the field_dispprop table, which I understand 
contains field label data, among other things.  I assume this may have 
something to do with why it is not visible in the Find Field drop-down 
list, which is (as far as I know) the only way to locate a field on a form.

Ideally, if it is not possible to locate this field, I would like to remove 
it entirely and attempt to recreate it, but I haven't been able to find a 
way to do this either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Jim Ashton

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Re: orphaned field on form view

2006-05-09 Thread John Hanson
The field may be hidden from all views.  In the admin tool, you should
be able to add the field to a view by going into Form - Current View -
Fields In View and then adding Search Bar to that view's field list.

HTH,
John

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ashton
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: orphaned field on form view


Hello.

Has anyone encountered the situation of having an orphaned or lost 
field on a form view?  I have a web (fixed fields) view of the AST:Asset

form (SchemaID 191 in my arschema table on SQL Server) which is supposed
to 
have a Search Bar form action field (FieldID 1005), but which I cannot
find 
anywhere on the form, either in the view in which it is supposed to be 
located or in any other view.

The field does exist in the field table.
The query select * from field where schemaid=191 and fieldid=1005
yields 
one record with a field name of Search Bar

The field does NOT exist in the field_dispprop table, which I understand

contains field label data, among other things.  I assume this may have 
something to do with why it is not visible in the Find Field drop-down

list, which is (as far as I know) the only way to locate a field on a
form.

Ideally, if it is not possible to locate this field, I would like to
remove 
it entirely and attempt to recreate it, but I haven't been able to find
a 
way to do this either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Jim Ashton


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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Adam Konkle
Title: Message
**



Warren,

tongue-in-cheek
Is the 
following website helpful?
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
/tongue-in-cheek

I've actually had lots of help from this list, even 
when I've asked whatfeel to me to be 1+1 type 
questions.
I'm glad that the list is here, and to whomever it was 
(sorry - this thread is long, and I missedwho commented about it) that 
said that they gain a lot of knowledge from just reading about the problems 
otherpeopleare having, and watchingthe list help solve them 
... I concur.

So... erm... can someone help me self-apply 
the clue-by-4? It's a little difficult to do for 
oneself.

A.

-Original Message-From: 
Warren Baltimore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 
May 09, 2006 8:57 AMSubject: Re: OT: Lazy 
posters
** 
  Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little 
  more helping. Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or 
  not they have a manual (or for that matter any experience with 
  ARS).
  On 5/9/06, Rick 
  Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  Preach 
it, brother!I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there 
couldonly one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to 
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and 
substantialcontributors like Phil.But Phil and Gidd are right, 
and it's high time for some people to get awake-up call with a 
clue-by-4.** DISCLAIMER **This does NOT apply to about 
98% of the posters tothis list.This is not telling newbies 
"Go away".This is not anattempt to scare anyone 
away.My stated comments are my own.Here's the 
progression, for those apparently new to such processes.1) You 
encounter a problem with a Remedy product.2) You try to fix it 
yourself.3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).4) You read 
the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some tidbit of 
information that might help with that process.5) Repeat steps 2-4 at 
least until the most apparent solutions have beentried.6) You 
contact Remedy Support and/or the list.7) You (probably) receive help 
from Remedy Support and/or the list. The ARSList is here to help 
people who have first made a substantialeffort to help 
themselves.It is intended to be an aid to, not asubstitute 
for, learning how to do your job.While we were all newbiesat 
some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain 
experience,there are a few people, including several from an offshore 
organization,who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic 
questions to thelist instead of taking the time to read the manuals 
provided with theproduct, and to actually grow their skills beyond that 
of newbie.Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of 
thisorganization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here 
- display to the rest of my professional community that I had the 
skillsand initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper 
bagwith a map, a knife, and a flashlight.Remedy isn't THAT 
hard to learn. Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those 
who are trying tohelp others by trying to help yourself 
first.Sergeant-at-Arms:Haul these miscreants 
away...:)Rick-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd 
CaldenSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: 
Pager Notifications.Carl,Do you mean that physically or 
verbally ?In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a 
good Point.While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, 
perhapsthat should be preceded by the requestor's research 
including looking atamanual once in awhile.There 
are more then a few listers that have atendency to ask a question and 
then wait for the reply and not do anyselfhelp on their 
sideYOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !Claire, chime in here if I 
am to far out in left field?Doh !!Has Remedy stopped 
shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materialsnow?My .02 
Regards...Gidd-Original Message-From: 
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Carl 
ReenusSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: 
Pager Notifications.Ha, what an ass!From: " [EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: 
Re: Pager Notifications.Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 
-0400Got a manual?Ever read it?Been 
to training?We have, try it.-Original message- 
From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Mon,8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: 
Pager Notifications.:-) Hi 
list,:-):-):-) SLA have 2 notification one is 
"Email" and the other is "Pager".Email:-) Notification 

Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Nicoll, Alan
What about those of us who only get that blinding flash of inspiration as 
soon as we click send?

Nick

On Tue, 9 May 2006 08:23:46 -0700, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
contributors like Phil.

But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
wake-up call with a clue-by-4.

** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
this list.  This is not telling newbies Go away.  This is not an
attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.

Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.

1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
2) You try to fix it yourself.
3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
tidbit of information that might help with that process.
5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
tried.
6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.

The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.

Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.

Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
help others by trying to help yourself first.

Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Carl,

Do you mean that physically or verbally ?  

In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point. 
 
While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
self  help on their side  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ! 

Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!

Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materials
now?

My .02

Regards...Gidd

 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.

Ha, what an ass!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400

Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
-Original message-
From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Pager Notifications.

:-) Hi list,
:-)
:-)
:-) SLA have 2 notification one is Email and the other is Pager. 
Email
:-) Notification can be created using Send Alert or Email and for 
pager we :-) should use Send Page or Run Process option to create 
pager :-) notification through command line statement to send a page or

run an :-) executable.
:-)
:-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to be 
given
:-) in the Send Page or Run Process for the pager notification.
:-)
:-) Thanks in  advance. :o)
:-)
:-) Thanks
:-)
:-) Malli
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
:-)
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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://listserv.rbugs.com/archives/arslist.html

as asked earlier today.

We'll ignore that the Subject has nothing to do with the question,
which in a way makes the subject accurate: Lazy posters
don't change the Subject line.

But I digresss.

I think this discussion is now becoming repetitive,
so unless someone has something NEW to add,
let us move on to new topics.


... Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Grant
Sent: May 9, 2006 16:55
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters


Another resource that I have used for years is the ARList Archieve. For some
reason, as of late it seems to be out of commission. Does anyone know how to
get to it?? The old archieve could be found here:

http://listserv.rbugs.com/archive/arslist.html

Russ Grant
San Diego, CA

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How to reach the ARSlist Archives

2006-05-09 Thread Susan Palmer
**
Currently the following url will get you to the archives. A great place to search for issues you may be having and to find previously provided solutions.

http://listserv.rbugs.com/archives/arslist.html

Susan
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Re: Read attachments into Remedy

2006-05-09 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
**



It looks like what you need to know is how those other 
programs are storing the attachments. Once you have the attachments from 
those other programs saved as regular files you can use workflow (or a program 
with anAPI call)add them to Remedy. Inside Remedy the Run 
Process action for workflow is 
PERFORM-ACTION-ADD-ATTACHMENT field_ID 
[file_name]

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sri 
sriSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:17 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Read attachments into 
Remedy
** ** 
Dear All,

I am using ARS 6.3 with SQL server as back end Database 
server
We are using PVCS and Bugzilla for version tracking and bug tracking 
purposes.
We are not integrating it. But we are writing same flow in QM 5.6. 
Challenge is- We are required to migrate the data from these environments into 
Remedy. PVCS is using MSQL server where as Bugzilla uses MYSQL as 
database.
We can write separate APIs to read the respective fields and store in the 
QM form. But we are not able to read the attachment files which are stored by 
those tools. At DB level I can see some special characters along with the data 
in those respective attachment columns
Is any possibility to read those and have as an attachments in ARS as 
well?

Regards
Sri

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Re: ARSLIST web site not up

2006-05-09 Thread Mayfield, Andy L.
How can you not like Microsoft (-: 


Andy L. Mayfield
System Operation Specialist
Alabama Power Company
Office: 8-226-1805


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARSLIST web site not up

**=20
Yep.
And when I get a chance go to the machine room and fix the url
I will.=20
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The fact that I have to go to a machine room to do this will give you
a hint that there is a much longer story behind it and it involves, as =
usual,
power failures and microsoft, I am not fond of either!
=20
.. Daniel
p.s. and going to the machine room is minimally a 3 hour process since
it is not where I am and under tight securlty and scheduling to get in
p.p.s. and I still don't know where the extra s comes from

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) =
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: May 9, 2006 14:59
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARSLIST web site not up
=09
=09
**=20
Peter,
There appears to be a link problem.
When the URL changes, add an s to the word archive or go to =
www.wwrug.org and choose the ARSlist link
=20
=20

John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -
paraphrased =
by me
=09
=09

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARSLIST web site not up
=09
=09
**=20

I have attempted to navigate to the ARSList.org site but I get
this =
error:=20

HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)=20

And I am taken to a Page Cannot be Displayed window.=20
Is the site down temporarily because of issues or is it down for
good?=20
It seems that this site has been down for some time now.=20

Thanks=20
Peter Lammey=20
ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management=20
860-766-4761=20

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Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

2006-05-09 Thread Lai, Canhai
Hi Rudi,

I did try to set the permission on the individual attachment but this
didn't seem to work.

Thanks!


Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rudi Funk
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to make an attachment pool read only

Hi,
think you can set the field properties of the attachement pool.
On tab attach field you can define the display label. If you delete a
label, the function is no more available.
Rudi


Lai, Canhai wrote:

Hi All,
 
Is there a way to make an attachment pool read only?
 
The permission tab on an attachment pool doesn't do the job I will
like.
With no permission, the attachment pool disappear altogether. What I
want is READ-ONLY: they can see file list and display all files, but
they will not see Add, Delete buttons for any selected attachment.
 
Any suggestion is appreciated!
 
 
Kevin

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Re: OT: Lazy posters

2006-05-09 Thread Júlio Verne Gonçalves
I do agree a lot that self-learning exercise makes a hell lot of difference
to mind and body and, for this sake, to ARSList as well. However I would
like to draw attention to some simple facts:
- Language: AR is sold in lots of places around the world, and believe, not
everyone speaks English. Yes, of course English is the preferred language!
What to say?!
Plus not everyone knows what clue-by-4 means. And ROFL?
- Money: lots of us, posters from all over the world, do not get our
salaries in dollars. So, think in terms of applying yourself versus money
you get to it. Sense of achievement? Yes! I find it beautiful the capacity
of some to dedicate to something for so long, but what about other basic
needs? 
- Time: the invaluable time. If you have it and want to answer, do it! If
not, just ignore the question! I suppose it will make the poster (better
still, their employer) spend some money in a proper course.

Please understand that I am putting some time here to try and say that
everyone has their reasons to ask and to complain. Like Scott Parrish, I do
see value in all comments.

Well, use the list to ask simple questions, answers them, vent your spleen
or just read them like a lot of us do.

Enough said!

PS: for the achronyms and abbreviations, see www.stands4.com and by the way
(or BTW) I found it with the help of super Google.

Júlio 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Grant
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 6:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Another resource that I have used for years is the ARList Archieve. For some

reason, as of late it seems to be out of commission. Does anyone know how to

get to it?? The old archieve could be found here:

http://listserv.rbugs.com/archive/arslist.html

Russ Grant
San Diego, CA


From: Susan Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:06:11 -0500

I have always been amazed at how patient many of the responders are to
posters.  Especially when you can tell that there is no way any attempt to
look in the manuals or the arslist archives was done.

It is hard to sometimes find what you're looking for in the pdf's, much 
less
the knowledge base on the support site.  But if you are taking the time to
just read these postings, whether they actually apply to something you're
doing at the time, you get a feel for the 'lingo' and maybe it will help in
your searches and education.

Of course the people that are lazy are not reading this, they are just
looking for someone to do their work basically.  What is really scary, is
that some of them are consultants!

Thanks to all the patient responders!

Susan


On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ah, Andy, you're alright!  As I stated earlier, so are about 98% of the
rest of the posters.

Sorry if I seemed a little harsh on the other 2% - none of whom are
first time offenders - but sometimes nice don't feed the bulldog.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mayfield, Andy L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

I have taken the admin course for 4.5 and can figure out most of the
simple things, but I am by no means a programmer and struggle at times
getting new features to work. I have always found this list to be very
helpful; the most helpful thing there is actually. I have access to the
manuals online from the Remedy website, but frequently have no idea
where to even begin looking. So I must admit I often try the list before
scouring pdf's, but I have always found folks here to be a great help.

I have actually wished someone would ask a question simple enough that I
could offer an answer (-:


Andy L. Mayfield
System Operation Specialist
Alabama Power Company
Office: 8-226-1805


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters

Exactly!  I was without a manual or training for several weeks when I
first started.


 From: Warren Baltimore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: OT: Lazy posters
 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:56:41 -0700
 
 Personally, I'd rather like to see a little less scolding and a little
more
 helping.  Nobody knows what this person's situation is, whether or not
they
 have a manual (or for that matter any experience with ARS).
 
 
 On 5/9/06, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
 only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
 actually contribute something before insulting longtime and
substantial
 contributors like Phil.
 
 But Phil and Gidd are right, 

Homepage link

2006-05-09 Thread Sarah lake
Hi 

I copied a form asset to testasset. Asset form had entry point name so now 
my test asset is also showing up on homepage. I cleared the entrypoint 
lable still my testasset is showing up on homepage ---Help 

thanks in advance 
Sarah 

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Re: USING BUSINESS TIME CALCULATIONS

2006-05-09 Thread Gidd Calden
Malli,
 
Please remember to use the Subject Line..
 
Here you go !
 
Check out the educational viewlet on our website for this:
 
USING BUSINESS TIME CALCULATIONS
 
http://www.buoyantsolutions.net/Community.html
 
HTH
 
 
Regards...Gidd
 

  _  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mallikharjunudu_Chidella
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 


** 
Hello List

i am just building an Remedy workflow which has to calculate the time needed
between Status Changes. The Business Times have to be subtracted.

and result has to be in min 

the following syntax does not work correctly on an activeLink: 

$PROCESS$ @@: Application-Bus-Time-Diff $TIMESTAMP1$ $TIMESTAMP2$

 
can Anybody share the experience of the same.
 
 
Cheers
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Re: Excel with ARS Functions?!?

2006-05-09 Thread Tim Widowfield
Adam,

You've run into the COM/Automation/ActiveX (or whatever else MS is calling it
this month) interface to the native Windows client, Remedy User.  You can do a
search in the Registry, where you'll notice Remedy.User.1 is related to a
LocalServer32 that points to something like C:\PROGRA~1\ARSYST~1\aruser.exe. 
That's the User Tool.  (Once upon a time it was called the User Tool, which
you'll still hear some of the greybeards.)

If you have any of the COM browsing utilities from Visual Studio, you can see
the functions supported under the Automation interface to aruser.exe.  I
sometimes use the nifty COM browser that comes with ActiveState Perl to do the
same thing.  It's pretty nice and free, too.

To see how they work, you can check out the Remedy C API Guide.  In version
6.3, you'll find a discussion in Chapter 6: AR System Automation.  They have a
few rather lame VB examples that give you some idea as to how you might use it.
 Beware:  The Automation libraries are very limited and can be a tad brittle. 
That is, they're easy to break, and the error messages from the COM interface
may not point you in the right direction.

HTH.

--Tim


--- Adam Konkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Listers,
 
 I just found something odd while trying to work on some functions in
 Excel... I have a category of Functions called Remedy.User.1
 
 They look like the Remedy API Calls, but I have no idea what they are,
 or where they came from.  In a cell in Excel, click the fx button next
 to the formula bar.  Then select the Category Drop-Down.  At the bottom
 of the list is Remedy.User.1
 
 Server: ARS5.0.1 on NT4/MSSQL7 (Yes, it is being upgraded)
 Client: WUT5.0.1 on Windows 2K Server / Citrix
 Other Apps: Excel 2002 SP3 on SAME Citrix connection.
 
 This is something that rather piques my interest, since I have a user
 that wants to format their printouts of individual records from within
 one in-house forms using Excel (we ported her DB from Excel to Remedy,
 and haven't gotten the printout right yet)
 
 Can someone point me to the manual that I need to read to understand how
 to make these functions REALLY work? (Points to OT: Lazy Posters thread)
 
 Thanks in Advance!
 
 Adam Konkle
 Systems Support
 EComm
 P:604-215-4991
 F:604-215-5001 
 

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Re: Excel with ARS Functions?!?

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Woyton
Adam, 

What you've found is sort of an accident. In the Add-ins for your Excel
installation, the COM library for the AR System User Tool was added somehow.
It's not really designed for use as a library of Excel functions so using it
from the fx menu probably won't get you any satisfying results.

However, it can be used in Excel Macros as an Automation Server. You might
want to refer to the section in the API Guide about Automating Remedy User
or something similar to that. It explains what all the methods do and provides
some samples in VB. VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) is the language of MS
Office Macros and just about any sample code in VB is applicable to VBA so you
can try the samples out in Excel if you want.

If you have some specific ideas of what you want to do with it and have
questions, feel free to post them and I'll be happy to help you set them up.

-Chris Woyton

Adam Konkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Listers,
 
 I just found something odd while trying to work on some functions in
 Excel... I have a category of Functions called Remedy.User.1
 
 They look like the Remedy API Calls, but I have no idea what they are,
 or where they came from.  In a cell in Excel, click the fx button next
 to the formula bar.  Then select the Category Drop-Down.  At the bottom
 of the list is Remedy.User.1
 
 Server: ARS5.0.1 on NT4/MSSQL7 (Yes, it is being upgraded)
 Client: WUT5.0.1 on Windows 2K Server / Citrix
 Other Apps: Excel 2002 SP3 on SAME Citrix connection.
 
 This is something that rather piques my interest, since I have a user
 that wants to format their printouts of individual records from within
 one in-house forms using Excel (we ported her DB from Excel to Remedy,
 and haven't gotten the printout right yet)
 
 Can someone point me to the manual that I need to read to understand how
 to make these functions REALLY work? (Points to OT: Lazy Posters thread)
 
 Thanks in Advance!
 
 Adam Konkle
 Systems Support
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