[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get where you are coming from. Do you live here? Own property here? you haven't been here is several months? if you haven't been here is several months, whats your gripe and what do you care? you sound like one of those freaks on APP boards curiously bent on badmouthing AP. You obviously haven't been enjoying it here. i have, and i am not alone. I am sorry AP isn't bringing you pleasure or a return or whatever you are looking for. i moved here because i love it. still do, with all its imperfections. i am more in love all the time. that doesn't mean i don't think the budget should be looked at etc..but love is more in spite of than because of. come down. ill meet you for a tea, drink, tour of our beautiful unfinished little city. Yes you are wrong... if you search the group archives you would see that i visited AP several months ago after being subjected to all the positive hype about how its been rebuilt,restored,remade, blah,blah,blah. What a huge disapointment.. i posted my thoughts about how could so little have been done in 6 or 7 years...i wrote about the horrible treatment of the bandshell building and how cheap the container buildings and monotonous stucco looked. There is something seriously wrong down there and the locals seem to be blind to it...the popular chants being 'its better than it was' and 'so much has improved in the last year' or 'give it time'. I think you all need to get out and go someplace where real redevelopment happens, it doesn't take years, glorify shipping containers, stucco over historic buildings or drive the town into financial ruin. Last i heard the entire beachfront was supposed to be done by Memorial day, it wasn't, then i heard Labor Day... it it all done ??? == Gab, Your missing a very significant aspect of Asbury Park. Many people have never been here yet follow the news and care about the City. Its reasonable to have expectations based upon the news hype thats put out. Most likely you have not followed the workings here as long as others who may not even live here ? By all accounts this entire redevelopment should be completed by now. Thats what the public was/is told. Is it any wonder that a visitor is disappointed by shipping containers, vacant lots, monotonous architecture and little to show for all the hype? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would argue that a big part of the reason we are in this mess is that citizens don't talk about politics enough. I have no gripe against MM (and my posts will illustrate that..i am usually complaining about the complaining). However public officials are another story. And NJ has a good history that begs for more citizen participation and judgmental comments. Any elected official who understands they are there to SERVE their constituents doesn't mind criticism. And again with our history, they should even be open to blatant citizen suspicion. But I have nothing to gain from any AP power brokers. That gives me some freedom in this respect. = Its a 'small town mentality' in a place with 'big City problems'. Go against the flow and your invites to parties will dry up. You'll be un-invited to participate on committees, etc... ... excommunicated... exiled... and eventually... locked up. Sure you want to keep asking questions about local politics ?? Guess its safe in your case, go for it. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
I understand that people with lots of expectations and inflexibility are going to be disappointed and dissatisfied a lot. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
Werner, did you just tell me I won't be invited to join in the reindeer games? thankfully i didn't care about that in HS, certainly not going to care about it now. I think there is a middle ground somewhere between being a gadfly and being a silent susan. I always get a little twitchy when someone suggests that the power brokers be left alone and not criticized. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, did you just tell me I won't be invited to join in the reindeer games? thankfully i didn't care about that in HS, certainly not going to care about it now. I think there is a middle ground somewhere between being a gadfly and being a silent susan. I always get a little twitchy when someone suggests that the power brokers be left alone and not criticized. LOL, OK so lets talk about how the City Leaders have performed in planning and the state of the City budget. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
first i would like to see it in a form that is accessible to non wonks. it is total greek to me in its current state. i would think the city or the budget committee would make it accessible to citizens in a way that is easily comprehensible. only one person expressed any desire to talk about it. maybe a way to look at it is...doesn't really matter what has happened in the past, or who did what. but just...what do we have? what do we need and how can citizens help? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, Sometimes we disagree, but your last 2 posts were terrific and spot on. They were focused on your knowledge and history rather than telling someone they were stupid or ignorant. Keep up the informational and well thought out posts and we will all be better for it. Dan S. Thank you, However, I have never called anyone in the group stupid. Please don't perpetuate that myth by attributing it to me. Have I called folks Ignorant? Yes, in the defined 'lacking knowledge in a subject' context. I'm under a LOT of stress due to this City, but will try to stay calm. its always best for folks to have the most information possible. Thanks again - Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And they replaced YOU, with that FAUX Hysterical Society? They don't know what you know in your pinky finger! Dunceville! LOL, Thanks, that made me laugh. The illegal handling of an official City position (Local Historian) during the Weldon days continues. Thats about 8 years now without official representation for the City's historic and cultural assets. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Deal or No Deal ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Werner, nice job stating the facts as related to AP. there are many reasons whey AP is where it is today as you have stated. thankfully MM has come along as the third party contractor, they have accelerated the development in the very short time they have been involved. = I understand your position, but the facts remain that this redevelopment is a failure. All timelines have been missed, revenue streams (to the City) have not materialized. The City (public) continues to lose ground under pressure from the 'developers. On the face of it, it LOOKS ok but one needs to examine below the surface. Hope you look a bit deeper now that you are a property owner here. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
I've always had a fear of unknown animals. When O was growing up, everyone on my block had a dog or a cat! Pets weren't regulated like they are now, or trained to be people friendly. I've seen many a mad dog on the streets of New Orleans, back in the 50's and it wasn't pretty. No, I respect people who have pets and actually LOVE them, but it makes me sad, because I can't have one and jealous, too! My daughter had 2 gray cats and a very tiny dog, named Louie, who I love! I could have the finest clothes I own on and I'll let Louie jump all over me! I've know Louie, since he was brought home as a pup, no bigger than my hand and my hands are small! I can't stand to be around an animal that has been tortured, because I think of wanting to torture the owner! I cry at the drop of a hat, so I'd rather give money for food and care. I'm that kind of person. I've cared for 5 children most of my adult life, so trust me, I've had my puppies! No, my litter! I've been a coach for 12 years back in the late 70's and all of the 80's and kids have been my forte. Some people are good with animals but I was good with kids. Not one or two but all of the kids who I coached or hung around my house are professionals or good tradesmen, clerical workers, etc. I believe that children should have a happy childhood, surrounded by good food, clean clothes and a warm place to sleep. With 5 kids, I could offer good food, overnight lodging, (there was always room for 1 more), thoughtful counseling instead of preaching and lots of hugs. You'd be surprised what kids tell you, when they know you genuinely care! Oh well, some people are good animal handlers; I'm not! I'd get too involved. I don't know how to let go, but thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would argue that a big part of the reason we are in this mess is that citizens don't talk about politics enough. I have no gripe against MM (and my posts will illustrate that..i am usually complaining about the complaining). However public officials are another story. And NJ has a good history that begs for more citizen participation and judgmental comments. Any elected official who understands they are there to SERVE their constituents doesn't mind criticism. And again with our history, they should even be open to blatant citizen suspicion. But I have nothing to gain from any AP power brokers. That gives me some freedom in this respect. The Doggy Yappy Hour was one of the most joyful experiences in AP I have had (though I have many). Sharon, the reasons you gave for not going are precisely why you should go. 100 percent surround sound joy. I have a 15 YO Lab mix who will probably not be around in a month, so I didn't bring her, but what sweetness it was to be there. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter
LOL, you are past crazy-funny! The dog must be something! Does he talk with his eyes? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: The best thing to do is to go out and pee on a tree. There are a couple things men can do better then a woman. Even though Blaze was neutered he still goes out every morning and pees on trees and every now then, given the opportunity, tries to hump something. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter
Why do you have to explain this? If everyone allegedly believes in equality then everyone is the same. Unfortunately this is not the case today for some reason everyone things that they have more rights than everyone else. They don't want equality they want more rights than everyone else. I would like an explanation of why affirmative action still exists? Almost two generations have passed since this came into being and people still can't get ahead with just what they have. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:08 AM I also know you are not less worth than me because I am a man and you are a woman. I never said that. Do not try to make it appear thats the way I feel by implying that I think I'm better than people beacuse of their gender or preference. Just as its allowed to have the parade thats held in Asbury to celebrate pride every year, I am allowed to take pride in myself for being who I am every day, and I don't have to be a woman or a gay man for it to be acceptable to have pride in myself. Nor do I get offended when I see others being proud of who they are. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... wrote: its no problem to me. i know i am not worth less than a man. but you and your pride are going to get upset a lot. and john is going to play you again and again and again and again and tommy...i agree with John's disdain for the disease that is the current repub party AND i think he's being silly. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
I have never in my life been attacked by a cat. I don't really think cats have any use for people except for food. --- On Sat, 10/11/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:52 AM I've always had a fear of unknown animals. When O was growing up, everyone on my block had a dog or a cat! Pets weren't regulated like they are now, or trained to be people friendly. I've seen many a mad dog on the streets of New Orleans, back in the 50's and it wasn't pretty. No, I respect people who have pets and actually LOVE them, but it makes me sad, because I can't have one and jealous, too! My daughter had 2 gray cats and a very tiny dog, named Louie, who I love! I could have the finest clothes I own on and I'll let Louie jump all over me! I've know Louie, since he was brought home as a pup, no bigger than my hand and my hands are small! I can't stand to be around an animal that has been tortured, because I think of wanting to torture the owner! I cry at the drop of a hat, so I'd rather give money for food and care. I'm that kind of person. I've cared for 5 children most of my adult life, so trust me, I've had my puppies! No, my litter! I've been a coach for 12 years back in the late 70's and all of the 80's and kids have been my forte. Some people are good with animals but I was good with kids. Not one or two but all of the kids who I coached or hung around my house are professionals or good tradesmen, clerical workers, etc. I believe that children should have a happy childhood, surrounded by good food, clean clothes and a warm place to sleep. With 5 kids, I could offer good food, overnight lodging, (there was always room for 1 more), thoughtful counseling instead of preaching and lots of hugs. You'd be surprised what kids tell you, when they know you genuinely care! Oh well, some people are good animal handlers; I'm not! I'd get too involved. I don't know how to let go, but thanks! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... wrote: I would argue that a big part of the reason we are in this mess is that citizens don't talk about politics enough. I have no gripe against MM (and my posts will illustrate that..i am usually complaining about the complaining) . However public officials are another story. And NJ has a good history that begs for more citizen participation and judgmental comments. Any elected official who understands they are there to SERVE their constituents doesn't mind criticism. And again with our history, they should even be open to blatant citizen suspicion. But I have nothing to gain from any AP power brokers. That gives me some freedom in this respect. The Doggy Yappy Hour was one of the most joyful experiences in AP I have had (though I have many). Sharon, the reasons you gave for not going are precisely why you should go. 100 percent surround sound joy. I have a 15 YO Lab mix who will probably not be around in a month, so I didn't bring her, but what sweetness it was to be there. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter
Yeah, petty, huh? The country is going to hell in a handbasket and the nit-pickers have turned this group into a pardon the pun, Bit*h-Fest! I saw another article in the Press on 50 drug arrests. Still not all the names but 50 looks impressive! Why can't law enforcement get the suppliers? The same kind of law enforcement that decimates a community of their next generation, instead of educating and rehabilitating them, is a make-jobs for those who'd rather reinforce the myth that minorities are the root of all societies ills! Incarcerate them instead of educating them! This defeats the Voting Rights Act and appears to be a way of perpetuating a mind-set, that says, these people aren't our kind! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't make me create a group called AP non-stop high school level arguments --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: look arcman...i was just noticing a linguistic issue. that's all. i have no idea what you think of woman and i don't really care. i don't say that with any animosity. my point in all of this is that there is no reason to be proud of being anything when you know that we are all human beings. if you want to extend that to all sentient beings, groovy. i think its obvious we could use more humility than pride right about now. those with the biggest egos fall the hardest. and get played by instigators. what was it tommy...everything that came from a star we are ALL made of.no reason for pride or shame..we are all just stardust. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
I really think you should publish! You impress me as being someone who really cares for the City, didn't want the publicity, but garnered it, after the way you were kicked to the curb! Very disgraceful! Like the Bushes, this City seems to not care for intellectuals; you know, people who actually KNOW something? The scientific world both you and I emerged from, makes us all the more curious, to present FACTS, instead of the fairy tale being dished out to an unknowing public. New people wouldn't KNOW that Asbury Park has a Master Plan, its original design and what it's founder, whose probably rolling over in his grave, would be more sympathetic, if they actually KNEW the History! The commercial aspects of Asbury Park were its' boardwalk, amusements like the Palace and the Swan boats, the City Pool, the movie theatres, all gone except the Baronet and Paramount, (Is the Savoy intact), were the draw to weary city dwellers and North Jerseyans. I only have to say that I live in Asbury Park, anywhere I go and the questions come like a flood! I only say positive things but I wished Asbury had kept a Carousel, its' symbol and draw! Hey, I can go anywhere and have cocktails, but when I think of the boardwalk, I see the monorail, the teacup rides, miniature golf, Madam Marie and the kitschy stores and candy shops! I keep my memories locked up in this tiny head; of my children who thought Asbury Park for kids, was a little bit of heaven and of this place being Coney Island, south! All I know is, I moved here from a very large city, to what I thought was a piece of New England, only to learn this is a Mid-Atlantic State! Looks like New England in November, especially 11 stories up, where I am; a little bit of Heaven. Kudos, Werner, for making us remember why we're here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: And they replaced YOU, with that FAUX Hysterical Society? They don't know what you know in your pinky finger! Dunceville! LOL, Thanks, that made me laugh. The illegal handling of an official City position (Local Historian) during the Weldon days continues. Thats about 8 years now without official representation for the City's historic and cultural assets. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
Hi Mike---If you ever think cats have no use for people except for food you need to experience a heartbreaking encounter with three little senior cats we just took into our sanctuary. They lived at Phillips Seaview Towers with their owner, a woman who had her leg amputated. She cherished these girls, giving them her heart and soul. At the untimely age of 50 something she passed away a few weeks ago. Luckily a wonderful Russian woman who lives there, Olga, got in contact with us the day before they were going to be taken away to be euthanized. They are with us now and are the sweetest, most adorable cats you would ever want to meet. We call them The Golden Girls! Ellen Carroll has been nice enough to ask Don Stine to do a story for us in The Coaster next week to make people aware of the need to plan for your pets in case of health or economic crisis. Of course The Golden Girls will be featured as we would love to find a loving home for them. To get back to the point, when Tabitha, Noelle and Pumpkin came to us they did not care about food. They were grieving for a love lost and all they wanted was comfort and a warm body to snuggle against. They are doing better now but still only want to be loved!!! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:07:59 -0700Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury I have never in my life been attacked by a cat. I don't really think cats have any use for people except for food.--- On Sat, 10/11/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: On AsburyTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:52 AMI've always had a fear of unknown animals. When O was growing up,everyone on my block had a dog or a cat! Pets weren't regulated likethey are now, or trained to be people friendly. I've seen many amad dog on the streets of New Orleans, back in the 50's and itwasn't pretty. No, I respect people who have pets and actually LOVEthem, but it makes me sad, because I can't have one and jealous, too!My daughter had 2 gray cats and a very tiny dog, named Louie, who Ilove! I could have the finest clothes I own on and I'll let Louiejump all over me! I've know Louie, since he was brought home as apup, no bigger than my hand and my hands are small! I can't stand tobe around an animal that has been tortured, because I think of wantingto torture the owner! I cry at the drop of a hat, so I'd rather givemoney for food and care. I'm that kind of person. I've cared for 5children most of my adult life, so trust me, I've had my puppies! No,my litter! I've been a coach for 12 years back in the late 70's andall of the 80's and kids have been my forte. Some people are goodwith animals but I was good with kids.Not one or two but all of the kids who I coached or hung around myhouse are professionals or good tradesmen, clerical workers, etc. Ibelieve that children should have a happy childhood, surrounded bygood food, clean clothes and a warm place to sleep. With 5 kids, Icould offer good food, overnight lodging, (there was always room for 1more), thoughtful counseling instead of preaching and lots of hugs.You'd be surprised what kids tell you, when they know you genuinelycare! Oh well, some people are good animal handlers; I'm not! I'dget too involved. I don't know how to let go, but thanks!--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Gabrielle Obregabrielleobre@ ... wrote: I would argue that a big part of the reason we are in this mess is that citizens don't talk about politics enough. I have no gripe against MM (and my posts will illustrate that..i am usually complaining about the complaining) . However public officials are another story. And NJ has a good history that begs for more citizen participation and judgmental comments. Any elected official who understands they are there to SERVE their constituents doesn't mind criticism. And again with our history, they should even be open to blatant citizen suspicion. But I have nothing to gain from any AP power brokers. That gives me some freedom in this respect. The Doggy Yappy Hour was one of the most joyful experiences in AP I have had (though I have many). Sharon, the reasons you gave for not going are precisely why you should go. 100 percent surround sound joy. I have a 15 YO Lab mix who will probably not be around in a month, so I didn't bring her, but what sweetness it was to be there. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional
[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same kind of law enforcement that decimates a community of their next generation, instead of educating and rehabilitating them, Asbury has at least received the money for educating their population, with minimal local tax money going towards that effort. How it's been squanderd is another story. Talk about inefficiences in a system, here is a classic example. To those kids that made it through and their families a big round of applause. As you well know, the repsonsibility starts in the home. If the police have to make some arrests they are doing their job. And that's regardless of color. Hopefully the school system will evolve after all these years. If not then start holding open public hearings and the state of the business - that is the Business of Public Education and how money is allocated. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
There appears to be huge contradiction in your concerns. On the one hand you write about discussing the City budget and questioning political leadership. On the other you don't care about redevelopment timelines. They are in essence the same topic, how do you reconcile separating them in your Asbury Park view? Werner I guess I just care about different things than you do. I have no problem with the progress of the Boardwalk. If its been slow due to shady dealings thats one thing. But if its simply red tape, financial situations, permits unplanned for I can understand that. and while it may provoke an eyeroll when there are boards across a new staircase, in the big picture i just cant get too upset about it. is the city communicating about the failure to meet the timelines? I think in general, any leadership in government should always be questioned. And it would be great if citizens were willing to talk more freely and intelligently about decisions and people in power and not based on any personal affiliation or benefit. It would be great if governments fostered citizen participation...meetings filmed, documents easily accessible and free of charge (PDF). My concern about city dealings comes from being a NJ citizen all my life and witnessing some pretty mediocre behavior coming from the dais. Ultimately what is beginning to bother me more is not the behavior of leaders, but that of citizens. Long discussion, but we are basically trained to be unquestioning workers and consumers. its what our public education was created to do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Interesting AP Press Letter
this is the last thing i will post on this thread. if John had called Arcman Shaniqua instead of Dolores or whatever name he called him, people would have freaked out...or that is my guess anyway. i know this is not the place to discuss linguistics, but it is hardly petty to discuss our language and what it reflects about how we view one another. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, petty, huh? The country is going to hell in a handbasket and the nit-pickers have turned this group into a pardon the pun, Bit*h-Fest! I saw another article in the Press on 50 drug arrests. Still not all the names but 50 looks impressive! Why can't law enforcement get the suppliers? The same kind of law enforcement that decimates a community of their next generation, instead of educating and rehabilitating them, is a make-jobs for those who'd rather reinforce the myth that minorities are the root of all societies ills! Incarcerate them instead of educating them! This defeats the Voting Rights Act and appears to be a way of perpetuating a mind-set, that says, these people aren't our kind! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Please don't make me create a group called AP non-stop high school level arguments --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: look arcman...i was just noticing a linguistic issue. that's all. i have no idea what you think of woman and i don't really care. i don't say that with any animosity. my point in all of this is that there is no reason to be proud of being anything when you know that we are all human beings. if you want to extend that to all sentient beings, groovy. i think its obvious we could use more humility than pride right about now. those with the biggest egos fall the hardest. and get played by instigators. what was it tommy...everything that came from a star we are ALL made of.no reason for pride or shame..we are all just stardust. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: John Hamilton Convicted
I am unable to locate this story. I looked at the asbury radio site and could not find a mention. From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 6:36:19 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: John Hamilton Convicted Oak, I read it this morning in disbelief! He's a disabled veteran and wanted nothing from no one! He helped ordinary people and was the voice for the voiceless. My 2 cents! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I didn't even know he was being re-tried. Whew... I feel so much safer now on the street. Time to start arresting wall st analysts, auditors, writers, tv show hosts, stock brokers etc. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
In a message dated 10/11/2008 11:04:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Mike---If you ever think cats have no use for people except for food you need to experience a heartbreaking encounter with three little senior cats we just took into our sanctuary === Thanks, Debbie. Interesting piece here about changing attitudes regarding men and cats: Sorry, Fido, It’s Just a Guy Thing October 5, 2008 from _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/fashion/05cats.html?ref=stylepagewanted=all_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/fashion/05cats.html?ref=stylepagewanted=all) IF you ask Adam Fulrath who is the love of his life, he will barely blink an eye before responding: Parappa. Mr. Fulrath, a 37-year-old design director at Time Out New York, keeps five photographs of Parappa, a shorthaired, bicolored, mixed-breed cat, on his desktop. He knows that it might be considered a little weird that a grown man would be so enamored with his kitty, but Mr. Fulrath, who is into video games and comic books and calls himself a “straight, geeky guy,” doesn’t care. “She’s my primary relationship,” he said. Mr. Fulrath is one of a growing number of single — and yes, heterosexual — men who seem to be coming out of the cat closet and unabashedly embracing their feline side. To that end, they are posting photographs and videos of their little buddies on YouTube and on Web sites like _menandcats.com_ (http://menandcats.com/) , and Twittering about them to anyone who will listen. Indeed, it seems that man’s best friend is no longer a golden retriever, but a cuddly cat named Fluffy. This movement, such as it is, is in direct contrast to the most notable in the recent spate of reports about the relationship between a man and a cat, which were far darker; they focused on a young actor who was recently on trial in New York City for killing his girlfriend’s cat — he said it attacked him — only to have a jury decide after several days that it could not reach a verdict. If it had been a little less violent, that case might have been more in line with what the world seems to expect of men and cats. The image of the crazy spinster cat lady persists, and plenty of people do wonder about a guy with a cat. As a writer on _adventuresofacitygirl.blogspot.com_ (http://adventuresofacitygirl.blogspot.com/) put it: “Single men and cats are like a burger and broccoli. Separately they are okay, but together it just seems off.” But those who see a growing link between men and cats see that attitude (not to mention the cat slaying) as old-fashioned. Clea Simon, who wrote “The Feline Mystique: On the Mysterious Connection Between Women and Cats,” said: “I do think it has become more acceptable for men to own cats — partly for practical reasons, like the growing realization that they’re better city pets, and partly the whole acceptance of our cross-gender traits that men crave intimacy, too.” Stacy Mantle, the founder of _Petsweekly.com_ (http://petsweekly.com/) , a magazine for pet lovers, said that men are becoming more “cat literate” because they themselves are evolving. “It’s the unevolved members of the species who tend toward abuse of cats — and oftentimes, women and children,” said Ms. Mantle, who owns 18 cats. Although there are no hard (or soft) statistics (it is rare to find an owner, man or woman, walking a cat in public), it seems that single, heterosexual male cat owners are on the rise. Over the last few years Sandra DeFeo, an executive director at the Humane Society of New York, said she had seen an increase in the number of single, straight men who are adopting cats. Carole Wilbourn, a cat therapist (yes, really) in Manhattan, said that the number of her single, straight male clients has risen about 25 percent over the last five years. When the Web site _PetPlace.com_ (http://petplace.com/) asked its readers, “ Do Real Men Own Cats?” almost 84 percent of respondents said “yes.” “Only intelligent, aware, caring men love cats,” one reader said. And in a 2005 survey by Cats Protection, an animal welfare agency in the United Kingdom, the majority of the 790 people who responded said it was cool for a guy to own cats. This line of thinking does not surprise cat lovers, many of whom believe that only pillars of virility and masculinity would dare to own one. They are quick to point out other well-known macho cat owners: _Ernest Hemingway_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/ernest_hemingway/index.h tml?inline=nyt-per) , _Mark Twain_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/samuel_langhorne_clemens/index.html?inline=nyt-per) , Victor Hugo and _Marlon Brando_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/marlon_brando/index.html?inline=nyt-per) , who reportedly found a stray cat on the
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
In a message dated 10/11/2008 1:05:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be great if governments fostered citizen participation...meetings filmed, documents easily accessible and free of charge (PDF). My concern about city dealings comes from being a NJ citizen all my life and witnessing some pretty mediocre behavior coming from the dais. Ah yes. Thread here a while back about having public municipal meetings accessible one of the local access cable channels. What stands in the way of that happening? **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Garden State Film Festival
We are asking filmmakers to submit a short film illustrating the theme, Must be Something in the Water! which will kick off the opening night of the festival in the historic Paramount Theater in Asbury Park. The winning entry will be announced in this newsletter in March, the month before the festival. What makes GSFF and AP the perfect fit? Asbury Park brings to mind the joy of the boardwalk, its history as a cultural mecca, its artists and art lovers, top notch restaurants and its jazz and rock 'n roll heritage. Add a film festival to this vibrant mix and it's a natural or as the theme explains: Must Be Something in the Water! http://www.gsff.org/challenge2009.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If its been slow due to shady dealings thats one thing. But if its simply red tape, financial situations, permits unplanned for I can understand that. Maybe it WAS shady dealings. Secret deals with coffee truck vendors and kicking dog walkers off a thoroughfare one doesn't own sounds pretty shady. I think in general, any leadership in government should always be questioned. And it would be great if citizens were willing to talk more freely and intelligently about decisions and people in power and not based on any personal affiliation or benefit. It would be great if governments fostered citizen participation...meetings filmed, documents easily accessible and free of charge (PDF). My concern about city dealings comes from being a NJ citizen all my life and witnessing some pretty mediocre behavior coming from the dais. Ultimately what is beginning to bother me more is not the behavior of leaders, but that of citizens. Long discussion, but we are basically trained to be unquestioning workers and consumers. its what our public education was created to do. You're right, which is why AP and the shore in general is ripe for an alternative press. The Ledger thinks Jersey ends at the Raritan, the Press has been utterly useless for ten years now, and the Coaster seems well-intentioned but not given to much in the way of investigative reporting. A weekly, like the City Paper in Philly or the Boston Phoenix, would give writers the opportunity to fully explain, magazine style, issues pertaining to a particular aspect of city life - so instead of just reporting what was discussed at a council meeting, the paper would give a complete background, like Maureen does as AsburyRadio.com, and really explain why this matters to the person reading, whether they're a doctor on Grand Ave. or a tattoo artist on Main. Find out whether its red tape or shadiness that's keeping things in limbo. Find out why so and so was indicted or why someone was suddenly fired for no apparent reason. Education, redevelopment, crime, social issues, health issues, everything could be covered. And then you round it out with arts coverage. Make it free so you can pump circulation to attract advertisers while also encouraging people who don't normally read the news to do so. They pick it 'cause Method Man's on the cover, but they keep reading and find out why MM missed YET another deadline and then maybe they get pissed off enough to go to the next council meeting. I know, another pipe dream. It can't hurt to imagine. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The oldest and most significant historic element of Asbury Park is the City plan. The design and layout of the streets and public spaces form the framework, the defining character and feel, of the City. Open spaces, view corridors, parks, street arrangements, etc, all contribute to how a developed area is interpreted. History question for you, relating to that point. Why is it that the grid pattern covers about 3/4 of the city, but then between Heck, Ridge, Asbury and Prospect, things get more acute angled and Five Points looking. Why wasn't the pattern extended all the way out to Ridge? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, another pipe dream. It can't hurt to imagine. The SIMPLIEST way to get started is the Internet. Create a blog. Advertise and market the blog your site. Have writers submit their stuff. Easier said then done. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Hateful Posting
I read the recently hateful posts in this group with disdain. Life is too short to be hateful. On the evening of Sunday, October 12th, on the 5th Avenue Beach in Asbury Park, a ceremony will be held to commemorate a victim of hate: http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss If the word hate is in your vocabulary, or if you use words to inflict hateful consequences, you might like to attend the ceremony. Erase Hate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
In a message dated 10/11/2008 6:51:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, another pipe dream. It can't hurt to imagine. The SIMPLIEST way to get started is the Internet. Create a blog. Advertise and market the blog your site. Have writers submit their stuff. Easier said then done. = Overfeeding on Information...media diet has swollen to nearly unmanageable proportions _http://tinyurl.com/4cy8cw_ (http://tinyurl.com/4cy8cw) **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
Was that crime about hate or drugs? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read the recently hateful posts in this group with disdain. Life is too short to be hateful. On the evening of Sunday, October 12th, on the 5th Avenue Beach in Asbury Park, a ceremony will be held to commemorate a victim of hate: http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss If the word hate is in your vocabulary, or if you use words to inflict hateful consequences, you might like to attend the ceremony. Erase Hate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
I wasn't there, I wasn't in the courtroom; so, I can not definatively answer your question. Would erasing hate ruin anything though? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that crime about hate or drugs? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: I read the recently hateful posts in this group with disdain. Life is too short to be hateful. On the evening of Sunday, October 12th, on the 5th Avenue Beach in Asbury Park, a ceremony will be held to commemorate a victim of hate: http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss If the word hate is in your vocabulary, or if you use words to inflict hateful consequences, you might like to attend the ceremony. Erase Hate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Overfeeding on Information...media diet has swollen to nearly unmanageable proportions That's why people have to learn how to find trusted sources of information. What those trusted sources are is another issue. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't there, I wasn't in the courtroom; so, I can not definatively answer your question. Would erasing hate ruin anything though? If there is enough hate crimes in the world to necessitate a gathering against it, wouldn't it be easy to find an exemplar that was definitively just about hate and nothing else? Otherwise it feels a bit misleading. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
