[AsburyPark] Re: Holdings - Players ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone generate a summary of who-has-what in regards to the Oceanfront redevelopment ? In the formative years there were many LLCs created by APartners. Things have gotten more complex today making it virtually impossible to determine who we, the public, are actually dealing with. Perhaps if enyone with knowledge of the subject were to post a larger combined summary could be created. I'll start with mentioning MDSASS, APartners, Metro, Paramount, Smoked Fish, MMno idea what $$ or percentages are involved. Werner = No Replies - Someone must have some info ? I'll try starting this again. - Asbury Partners - $21M initial investment == Smoked Fish LLC == MDSASS == Oceanfront Acquisitions LLC == Cherokee - Paramount Homes - Madison Marquette == Asbury Partners - Metro Homes - Westminster Communities == Madison Marquette (buyout) - Asbury/Madison LLC == Asbury Partners == Madison Marquette - Stone Pony ??? == Asbury/Madison LLC ??? Additions, Corrections, Numbers ??? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One of Madison Marquette's Parent Fund's Funders
Very perceptive Maureen. Didn't know that. S. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't look now, but one of the funds Anselm of Madison Marquette told me is a big investor in Capital Guidance, which owns MM, now faces billions in losses, according to today's Wall St. Journal. See 'Alpha' Bets Turn Sour. Apparently, PERS, the Pennsylvania State Employees Retirement System used a strategy called, portable alpha to finance investments of $9.2 billion in hedge-funds. Now PERS could be forced to make cash payments of $2.5 billion or more to Wall St. trading partners, according to the Journal. Last month Anselm and I argued over whether Capital Guidance is a hedge fund or not. At that time I was concerned that MM's investments here could be in trouble if Capital Guidance were a hedge fund and found its credit lines had dried up, since hedge funds are highly leveraged. Anselm insists Capital Guidance isn't a hedge fund. But the PERS situation is another matter. PERS may have to liquidate some of its investments to shore up its losses. Let's hope Capital Guidance has them locked in for couple of years. Anyone want ot venture forth on this one? Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Accuracy or Fiction ?
Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
The picture was taken in California. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
WONDERFUL! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Yes I recall that's how Ed got in. I'm not sure what the law says with respect to timing though. Just wondering aloud, I'm curious whether they can appoint if the vacancy occurs within a certain amount of time before an election. I'll check it out. I'm available. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
Very poetic! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I found out: Because AP is non-partisan, the City Council members have 30 days from the resignation to fill the seat. If they don't fill the seat, it stays vacant until May's election. If AP was a partisan town, the political party would put up 3 names for the council to choose from. If the council didn't act in 30 days, the party could fill the seat from the 3 names. So it will be up to Kevin, Jimmy, John, Ed to determine if they want to fill the seat or leave it vacant. I say fill it to the rim with Amy Quinn or Michael Brim. How's that for poetry! Or how about: Time to sail with Paul Vail. Or maybe: Here we go with Mario! Or: The future is heaven with Maureen Nevin! Who are you folks interested in seeing take that seat? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Accuracy or Fiction ?
photo is reverse image. -Original Message- From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 7:21 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Accuracy or Fiction ? Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..
You are Off the Hook! LOL! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/2/2008 2:20:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote:... How about a compromise of these two perspectives? From the monologues in one of my favorite films: [addressing the camera] There's an old joke - um... two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, Boy, the food at this place is really terrible. The other one says, Yeah, I know; and such small portions. Well, that's essentially how I feel about life - full of loneliness, and misery, and suffering, and unhappiness, and it's all over much too quickly. And this I thought of that old joke, y'know, the, this... this guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, Doc, uh, my brother's crazy; he thinks he's a chicken. And, uh, the doctor says, Well, why don't you turn him in? The guy says, I would, but I need the eggs. Well, I guess that's pretty much now how I feel...; y'know, they're totally irrational, and crazy, and absurd, and... but, uh, I guess we keep goin' through it because, uh, most of us... need the eggs. Scheduled for a rerun this weekend: http://tinyurl.com/6pk9gr Happy Holidays, Mario **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40v anityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION?
Food for thought! Good thought, too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fun with numbers. Read this article from Chicago. Link at the end, Then call me. I'm playing the lottery tonight. Chicago has the same problem Asbury has. But AP doesn't have Oprah Obama nor Hillary - nor the Cubs. How much ARE they worth. Here's how you look at it and I'm sure Dan can add to it. A parking space is land. That is real estate. Land in a valued location is worth money. Land that can generate money is worth MORE money. http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0227950220081202 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner Photoshop. units missing off bandshell? airbrushed the smoke. AND...what's the building behind the smoke extended onto the beach - is that CH lit up? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: photo is reverse image. -Original Message- From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 7:21 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Accuracy or Fiction ? I'll second that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The picture was taken in California. == Brap - Wrong ! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: photo is reverse image. Ding, Ding, Ding - Correct ! One drink of your choice. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was created by Push (pushhere.com) the orlando florida company responsible for theasburyboardwalk.com Being stuck down there by Mickey Mouse, they don't realize how bored we are here in NJ with no life, to pick through everything we know about the boardwalk and the history. Me included. Maybe if the firm was located in Asbury Park with its legenday arts and music... people woudln't be tough with artistic creativity... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: The accuracy is, if you were trying to sell Wesley grove, do you really want to show a picture of the exterior? Look at the original concept for WG, then what was built. Then the concept colors for what was built were not used. Its a bland exterior that can be spruced up a bit with some color. Not that expensive... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was created by Push (pushhere.com) the orlando florida company responsible for theasburyboardwalk.com ... Maybe if the firm was located in Asbury Park with its legenday arts and music... people woudln't be tough with artistic creativity... Maybe if APartners/MM employed or looked to someone with extensive knowledge of Asbury Park that had the City's image as a priority they would have a better product. Artistic creativity is one thing.. Displaying a 'real view' backwards is another. Never mind that the view is from a perspective from nowhere near Wesley Grove. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The accuracy is, if you were trying to sell Wesley grove, do you really want to show a picture of the exterior? Look at the original concept for WG, then what was built. Then the concept colors for what was built were not used. Its a bland exterior that can be spruced up a bit with some color. Not that expensive... === Lego Block architecture, 100% lot coverage... Not at all what was envisioned by the grand Planning meetings. The diagonal roads through the blocks were supposed to remain as pedestrian/view corridors to the Lake. People have short memories... Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner Have we decided where to meet? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
I was certain you wouldn't understand the reference. Or perhaps you do and don't want to buy me a drink since I was first. Don't worry about it you can buy the next guy a drink. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: The picture was taken in California. == Brap - Wrong ! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
Thanks Michael! I owe my knowledge to Ed Johnson. I remembered his being appointed, but the dates were fuzzy. I googled and discovered that Ed has a great web site http://www.edjohnson.org/ that gave the dates along with his background. I really like his This is what I said link that gives his opinions and actions on different issues. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was certain you wouldn't understand the reference. Or perhaps you do and don't want to buy me a drink since I was first. Don't worry about it you can buy the next guy a drink. == First to answer California ... OK The only thing I'll be buying you is a ticket to your upcoming Attorney Ethics Hearings. Yes, that was 'Personalizing' Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner Have we decided where to meet? === Guess its your call - you're the instigator. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/43204 Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Proof that Nancy Shields Reads This
Tommy, Keady also has his own blog and his own Yahoo Group. The notices that he puts on this board he also sends via his own. It is possible that Nancy Shields subscribes to all three. I got the notification from Councilman Keady's yahoo group in my work email before I read about it anywhere else. That said, it doesn't mean that I don't have hopes that you're work is being acknowledged. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Replacement 4 Stepping Down from City Council
JW: As one of those who supported you, I will miss your counsel. Take care and may God Bless you in your future endeavors. BTW: what is the process for your replacement, sp election or appt., and by whom? There should be many who'd like to know and I'm thinking I'll apply too as one of the forgotten ones from the north west side, lol Changazi Ms Changazi Presents: IYour ssues and answers MSP TV 77 Real Life Documentaries on MSP TV 77 Watch MSP TV 77 on Cablevision Tue 9:30pm Questions, Comments, Suggestions, 732-776-5324,H; 732=337-4999,C; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a Small Fee, It's Practically FREE! --- On Tue, 12/2/08, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Stepping Down from City Council To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:06 AM Friends of Asbury Park: I sent the following memo to Mayor Sanders and my City Council colleagues this morning. For those of you who have supported me over the past three and a half years, I thank you and will be ever grateful for that support. For those of you who at times disagreed with my policy decisions, I also thank you, because I know that you did so out of your love for Asbury Park, and I deeply respect that. I look forward to serving all you in the remaining weeks of 2008. I hope this finds you well and enjoying this beautiful day. Peace, JWK _ _ _ To: Mayor Kevin Sanders From: Councilman Jim Keady Re: Stepping down from City Council Date: December 2, 2008 Mayor Sanders, It has been my distinct pleasure to serve the City of Asbury Park and its citizens for the past three and a half years. However, due to increased personal and professional demands on my time, I will be stepping down from my position on City Council effective December 31, 2008. I look forward to participating in my two remaining City Council meetings on December 3, 2008 and December 17, 2008. Beyond these, I wish you, Deputy Mayor Bruno, Councilman Johnson, Councilman Loffredo, City Manager Reidy and all the City employees the best of luck as you continue the important and exciting work of revitalizing our wonderful community. I hope this finds you well. Peace, James W. Keady Councilman, City of Asbury Park _ _ ___ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Rockwell/AsburyPark/Xanadu
While doing some research I came across a page of comments about the new Xanadu complex being built in the Meadow Lands. Designed by the Rockwell Group, the same architect engaged for our beachfront who is responsible for the 'Containers' I thought the following comment was rather connected. Posted by mcjasper on 09/11/08 at 11:54AM I am a recent graduate from Manhattan College and while driving down to my parents house at the shore many weekends would drive past the mall. I must say as a civil engineer, if I were the engineer of this building I would take a wet noodle and beat the architect. How any architect could think this is a good look is beyond me. It would have looked ugly in the 1970's when these colors were in style. Thank God I decided to move out of NJ and now live in Tampa, FL. Now I will not have to deal with an ugly mess called a mall like all you northern Jersey folk. P.S. stop coming down to the shore and cluttering up my beaches!!! http://blog.nj.com/jerseyblogs/2008/04/xanadu_too_ugly_for_the_meadow.html I continue to be concerned about the direction of architecture chosen for the beachfront and think that the Rockwell Group is an inappropriate match for the job at hand. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions
Something struck me as odd; calling Howard Zinn an American hater! WHAT? As though disagreeing with this fascist government, hating America? What happened to the First Amendment? I'm so glad that my generation QUESTIONS authority, small a! Most times the authority you disagree with is one, corrupt, two, hiding the truth or three, in bed with someone! Capice? Just open the Press and you'll either read that someone in the Bush Administration is hiding something, committed a crime/treason/torture/wire-taps/conspiracy, etc. Name your situation, it's all there! Then read about corrupt NJ politicians, who not only abound here in Monmouth County, but the other 20 counties as well! I rest my case! Good piece Mario. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, John. And I could go on about the need for serious professional journalism and a citizenry with enough media literacy to sort through all media including bloggers. Instead I posted my subjective thoughts about some local blogging to the politics group here: http://tinyurl.com/5oukwo In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:19:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes! Let's just have everyone in an information ghetto, where they only read what they want to hear by people who already agree with them! Perfect! On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:46 AM, justifiedright wrote: Yet triCityNews has just passed the 70 page mark. Better business model - better journalism model. The future of journalism is journalists telling you upfront what their political affiliations are. It's just more trustworthy. The fastest growing news delivery format in America is partisan blogs. The old format of make-believe objectivity is dying. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Any thoughts of selling the rights to
I agree! If you meter the oceanfront, meter ALL of the commercial downtown, like it used to be! Asbury Park, is BACK and the City is missing out on revenue, experiencing a budget shortfall and this is one way of alleviating the debt. What are the City fathers and the Council doing? Resting on their elbows? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Future parking revenues? As in the cases I mentioned yesterday, some munis are selling (leasing) the rights to future parking revenues. Looks like the going rate is about 25,000 per spot for a 75 year period. Additional kickers are bumps for a share of overtime fines. So if AP had 1200 spaces along the ocean, that would amount to about $37 millon paid upfront The parking spaces on the street are an asset. When the esperana was being sold, they were giving one spot. Additional spot was I think about $30k. I think dan came up with an appraisers method of justifying that cost. So how about it - should the city look into leasing the rights to parking in the city? Oceanfront spots higher then downtown and main (if it all).. Be nice not to see employees and owners of the businesses not taking up the ocean ave spots.. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rockwell/AsburyPark/Xanadu
Zanadu is a complete eyesore. But, even if we question the look of the pavilions, isn't it far too late for a change of direction? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While doing some research I came across a page of comments about the new Xanadu complex being built in the Meadow Lands. Designed by the Rockwell Group, the same architect engaged for our beachfront who is responsible for the 'Containers' I thought the following comment was rather connected. Posted by mcjasper on 09/11/08 at 11:54AM I am a recent graduate from Manhattan College and while driving down to my parents house at the shore many weekends would drive past the mall. I must say as a civil engineer, if I were the engineer of this building I would take a wet noodle and beat the architect. How any architect could think this is a good look is beyond me. It would have looked ugly in the 1970's when these colors were in style. Thank God I decided to move out of NJ and now live in Tampa, FL. Now I will not have to deal with an ugly mess called a mall like all you northern Jersey folk. P.S. stop coming down to the shore and cluttering up my beaches!!! http://blog.nj.com/jerseyblogs/2008/04/xanadu_too_ugly_for_the_meadow.html I continue to be concerned about the direction of architecture chosen for the beachfront and think that the Rockwell Group is an inappropriate match for the job at hand. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
Thought I was in for a feel-good read. Until I came across the reference to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Guess I'm not thick-skinned. Feel free to educate this guy via the comment box or letters link. Anyone get what he means by horizontally inclined? = From Duke University's The Sandbox - Recess at http://tinyurl.com/6m3ccxPosted: 12/4/08 We New Jerseyans have thick skin about most offenses to the Garden State. (Just to be clear: It doesn't smell like garbage, I don't find it ironic that our state nickname invokes beauty and if New Jersey is the armpit of America, our glob of a country sure is horizontally inclined.) We'll tolerate most barbs, but don't you dare demean Bruce Springsteen, because The Boss is ours. He's stitched himself into the fabric of New Jersey, and by this point he's as culturally ingrained as diners, Tony Soprano and the neon lights on the boardwalk's tilt-a-whirls down the shore. It doesn't matter that Springsteen became rock and roll's future by yearning to leave New Jersey and find himself on the open road, to quit the boardwalk scene and pull out of a town full of losers, because even though he left... well, he never really did. He still plays rollicking shows in Giants Stadium on every tour and, with the E Street Band, awes crowds with rumbling sets that include the same hits from those iconic 1970s albums. The state's true poet laureate is now a revered social critic, and his music reflects his age and political activism-and from a selfish standpoint, it's simply not as fun to blast the new stuff and sing along even though you can't hear your own voice, because it's not that type of music anymore. There are no more Thunder Roads for Springsteen to find, only 41 shots for him to riff on. Except, that is, for about one month every year, when radio stations hide Born in the U.S.A. or The Rising and pull out a dusty track that hasn't been played in 11 months. Roy Bittan starts by tickling the piano to conjure bells, and the crowd roars in hysterical approval. Clarence Clemons does his best impersonation of Santa Claus and then, beautifully, Springsteen comes in with the simple words we've all memorized on the notes we all know are coming, yet somehow feel fresh every year: You better watch out/You better not cry/Better not pout/I'm telling you why. Then it's the crowd's turn, a reincarnation of the call-and-response Springsteen uses in all of his live shows now. It doesn't matter if you're in the car alone or if you're surrounded by thousands at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park; you yell, Santa Claus is coming to town! as loud, as hoarsely and with as much holiday fervor as you can. Max Weinberg ratchets up the percussion, Miami Steve croons in the background, Clarence solos on the sax-it's familiar, but invigorating. It's the best Christmas song of all time, because it captures the spirit of the holiday season. Find the bells and let loose. Embrace the company of others. And for goodness sake, fuhgeddabout the Jersey sneer, and be thankful the state is, indeed, not a glorified parking lot. We have, after all, given even the naughtiest of you the gift of Springsteen. = Happy Thankshallowistmas **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this: http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/ Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner photo is inverted. the view is actually looking south along the water and thus the water should be on the left of the photo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I was in for a feel-good read. Until I came across the reference to Asbury Park as a town of losers. It's the impression. Mario you've been here long enough to have seen it all. Look at the newest loser - the epseranza site and the offices of partners/mm. One last eyesore as well as the eyesores the Phoneix and MK and remainder of the Met. Erase those eyesores one way or another and ocer the pilings for now on Wesley Grove that never got built. For next summer, clean off what was the east portion of the casino and deck it with railings. Get the big 20 x40 garbage cans off the boardwalk. then head over to the west side and show something for real on Springwood. There are winners and losers still in town. Not a town full of losers though. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
Mario, Neither Cohen nor Springsteen ever refer to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Obviously he's referring to the lyric from Thunder Road, which never specifies a particular town. (though given its references to dusty beach roads and windblown hair [hard to imagine on snail paced Ocean Avenue], it's likely he had some town in southern Ocean County in mind.) Cohen, like Springsteen, is using it as a metaphor for any small town in America from which a young, creative person would want to escape. Yes, he specifies a boardwalk scene, but again, that could be Point, Seaside, Wildwood, whatever. He's talking about the shore in general, and you shouldn't take it as a slight. It's just a college kid writing about how everyone can get into Bruce's version of Santa Claus is Comin' to Town, which is true (until about the 10th time they play it ;). As to what he meant by horizontally inclined, I guess he was imagining the US as a person lying on his stomach, arms (New England) outstretched. Of course, one then wonders what metaphor he'd use for the south of Texas. The main thrust of his essay seems to be that --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I was in for a feel-good read. Until I came across the reference to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Guess I'm not thick-skinned. Feel free to educate this guy via the comment box or letters link. Anyone get what he means by horizontally inclined? = From Duke University's The Sandbox - Recess at http://tinyurl.com/6m3ccxPosted: 12/4/08 We New Jerseyans have thick skin about most offenses to the Garden State. (Just to be clear: It doesn't smell like garbage, I don't find it ironic that our state nickname invokes beauty and if New Jersey is the armpit of America, our glob of a country sure is horizontally inclined.) We'll tolerate most barbs, but don't you dare demean Bruce Springsteen, because The Boss is ours. He's stitched himself into the fabric of New Jersey, and by this point he's as culturally ingrained as diners, Tony Soprano and the neon lights on the boardwalk's tilt-a-whirls down the shore. It doesn't matter that Springsteen became rock and roll's future by yearning to leave New Jersey and find himself on the open road, to quit the boardwalk scene and pull out of a town full of losers, because even though he left... well, he never really did. He still plays rollicking shows in Giants Stadium on every tour and, with the E Street Band, awes crowds with rumbling sets that include the same hits from those iconic 1970s albums. The state's true poet laureate is now a revered social critic, and his music reflects his age and political activism-and from a selfish standpoint, it's simply not as fun to blast the new stuff and sing along even though you can't hear your own voice, because it's not that type of music anymore. There are no more Thunder Roads for Springsteen to find, only 41 shots for him to riff on. Except, that is, for about one month every year, when radio stations hide Born in the U.S.A. or The Rising and pull out a dusty track that hasn't been played in 11 months. Roy Bittan starts by tickling the piano to conjure bells, and the crowd roars in hysterical approval. Clarence Clemons does his best impersonation of Santa Claus and then, beautifully, Springsteen comes in with the simple words we've all memorized on the notes we all know are coming, yet somehow feel fresh every year: You better watch out/You better not cry/Better not pout/I'm telling you why. Then it's the crowd's turn, a reincarnation of the call-and-response Springsteen uses in all of his live shows now. It doesn't matter if you're in the car alone or if you're surrounded by thousands at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park; you yell, Santa Claus is coming to town! as loud, as hoarsely and with as much holiday fervor as you can. Max Weinberg ratchets up the percussion, Miami Steve croons in the background, Clarence solos on the sax-it's familiar, but invigorating. It's the best Christmas song of all time, because it captures the spirit of the holiday season. Find the bells and let loose. Embrace the company of others. And for goodness sake, fuhgeddabout the Jersey sneer, and be thankful the state is, indeed, not a glorified parking lot. We have, after all, given even the naughtiest of you the gift of Springsteen. = Happy Thankshallowistmas **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new- dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups
[AsburyPark] C-8 part 2....1 year later
Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
The sad fact is that it is virtually impossible to get a loan to do almost anything at the current time for even the most creditworthy of borrowers. Real Estate is on the lower end of the health spectrum at the moment. I have no specific knowledge here but my guess is that this project is going nowhere for a while until the health of the lending market improves considerably. So the update would be that it is in limbo for quite some time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad fact is that it is virtually impossible to get a loan to do almost anything at the current time for even the most creditworthy of borrowers. Real Estate is on the lower end of the health spectrum at the moment. I have no specific knowledge here but my guess is that this project is going nowhere for a while until the health of the lending market improves considerably. So the update would be that it is in limbo for quite some time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Didn't the ESP shut down this month last year? Has anybody heard any updates about it fate, or plans to restart building? It's starting to be a real slap in the cities face that there's another derelict structure on the same exact location as the last one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Number of parking spots anyone?
If someone knows the actual number of parking spots in town and the number of spots in the lots that MM paved, i will take some time and do a real world analysis with numbers and assumptions that i think make sense. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
Ok. Cohen gets a pass because he's a college kid. The metaphor is, as you say, obvious in the context of the song. Not so obvious in the kid's paragraph where everything is literal not fugurative: It doesn't matter that Springsteen became rock and roll's future by yearning to leave New Jersey and find himself on the open road, to quit the boardwalk scene and pull out of a town full of losers, because even though he left... well, he never really did. He still plays rollicking shows in Giants Stadium on every tour and, with the E Street Band, awes crowds with rumbling sets that include the same hits from those iconic 1970s albums. With some more experience, he'll learn to proofread for ambiguity and possible misinterpretations. === In a message dated 12/4/2008 11:44:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Neither Cohen nor Springsteen ever refer to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Obviously he's referring to the lyric from Thunder Road, which never specifies a particular town. (though given its references to dusty beach roads and windblown hair [hard to imagine on snail paced Ocean Avenue], it's likely he had some town in southern Ocean County in mind.) Cohen, like Springsteen, is using it as a metaphor for any small town in America from which a young, creative person would want to escape. Yes, he specifies a boardwalk scene, but again, that could be Point, Seaside, Wildwood, whatever. He's talking about the shore in general, and you shouldn't take it as a slight. It's just a college kid writing about how everyone can get into Bruce's version of Santa Claus is Comin' to Town, which is true (until about the 10th time they play it ;). As to what he meant by horizontally inclined, I guess he was imagining the US as a person lying on his stomach, arms (New England) outstretched. Of course, one then wonders what metaphor he'd use for the south of Texas. The main thrust of his essay seems to be that **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Number of parking spots anyone?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone knows the actual number of parking spots in town and the number of spots in the lots that MM paved, i will take some time and do a real world analysis with numbers and assumptions that i think make sense. = If you are so inclined, contact: Brian Grant City Engineer 732-502-5713 He could probably give you the numbers immediately. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? = It would actually be better to include the Esperanza site in the parking discussion. The part that is built is the proposed parking levels. It could be finished as such rather easily forming the base of a future tower expansion should the economy warrant. The City could exercise Eminent Domain, take the site, make it public property and then lease the rights to operate it as Parking with some commercial uses perhaps. Thank you for the thought, I see myself in your post Several terms come to mind: - Selective Enforcement - Malicious Prosecution I've been photo documenting various sites for years. It's clear that there is some 'Personalizing' going on. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof that Nancy Shields Reads This
In a message dated 12/4/2008 8:35:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tommy, Keady also has his own blog and his own Yahoo Group. The notices that he puts on this board he also sends via his own. It is possible that Nancy Shields subscribes to all three. I got the notification from Councilman Keady's yahoo group in my work email before I read about it anywhere else. That said, it doesn't mean that I don't have hopes that you're work is being acknowledged. Oh, it's being acknowledged all right: 1. By Dan Jacobson's Message from the Publisher in today's triCityNews. Despite Dan's facetious reference to Hugo Chavez, he fairly pays homage to JK's philosophies, grounded in the most liberal tenets of the Catholic Church. Then Dan J. explains why he wouldn't endorse JK for elected office and comments that our council incumbents would be wise to take note of what Keady represented in appointing a successor. 2. And by me here asburypolitics : Message: Man with the Muck-Rake http://tinyurl.com/5oukwo **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Number of parking spots anyone?
I left a detailed message, hopefully he returns my call --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: If someone knows the actual number of parking spots in town and the number of spots in the lots that MM paved, i will take some time and do a real world analysis with numbers and assumptions that i think make sense. = If you are so inclined, contact: Brian Grant City Engineer 732-502-5713 He could probably give you the numbers immediately. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Number of parking spots anyone?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left a detailed message, hopefully he returns my call Good going. I want a cut ): The number, in talking to someone else again today, is $25k per spot adjusted over the years. fines range from $12 to $36 for overtime parking. In your numbers, you should also account for: the psossiblity that a spot can be used for MORE then 24 hours - car turnover. This is why pay stations are better (for the spot owner) as with a meter - you hunt for a meter with time vs a pay station is related directly to your car (in this scenario even without stubs in windshield). Also, look at long branch - free parking at Pier V for two hours. And they ticket and it's not well signed. Once those spots are filled - valet from $10-$20 (mostly $10 this year) and not sure what the garage rates were. Also, the ESP would of had 200 public spots if I recall. needless to say, there's room at N. Beach and Wesley until they sell some more units... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 part 2....1 year later
Perhaps the ESP could be repurposed into being an urban paintball game, with a special area similar to Shoot the Geek in Pt. Pleasant, but in the AP version, the geek could be wearing a Dean Geibel mask. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt cwpvt@ wrote: It's been a year, can't the City force them to remove what is there if they are not going to use it? Or hire someone to remove it and bill the owner. I would assume that if they can arrest someone for a porch, they can have the owner (who is still in business) fined until it's gone. The same thing with the Metropolitan, why is that hulk still standing. I would have to assume they removed the good part, because they were afraid that someone was going to force them to restore it. If I remember correctly, the city sent an engineer over who said it was unsafe, or that was the excuse anyway! Wouldn't the remains qualify the same way? === == It would actually be better to include the Esperanza site in the parking discussion. The part that is built is the proposed parking levels. It could be finished as such rather easily forming the base of a future tower expansion should the economy warrant. The City could exercise Eminent Domain, take the site, make it public property and then lease the rights to operate it as Parking with some commercial uses perhaps. Thank you for the thought, I see myself in your post Several terms come to mind: - Selective Enforcement - Malicious Prosecution I've been photo documenting various sites for years. It's clear that there is some 'Personalizing' going on. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] dinner for friends of revision theatre
FOR ALL THE FRIENDS OF REVISION THEATRE RESTAURANT PLAN B IS OFFERING A PRE-POST THEATRE 20% DISCOUNT ON DINING BRING YOUR TICKET TO SCROOGE IN ROUGE AND RECEIVE YOUR DINNER DISCOUNT ADDITIONALLY IF YOU PURCHASE YOUR THEATRE TICKETS ON LINE AT REVISIONTHEATRE.ORG AND PUT IN PLANB IN THE DISCOUNT CODE, YOU WILL RECEIVE 10% OFF YOUR THEATRE TICKET. REMEMBER WE ARE OPEN ON FRIDAY UNTIL 10PM AND SATURDAY UNTIL 11PM FOR DINNER AND OR DESSERT. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
WE? I want to Barf! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I was in for a feel-good read. Until I came across the reference to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Guess I'm not thick-skinned. Feel free to educate this guy via the comment box or letters link. Anyone get what he means by horizontally inclined? = From Duke University's The Sandbox - Recess at http://tinyurl.com/6m3ccxPosted: 12/4/08 We New Jerseyans have thick skin about most offenses to the Garden State. (Just to be clear: It doesn't smell like garbage, I don't find it ironic that our state nickname invokes beauty and if New Jersey is the armpit of America, our glob of a country sure is horizontally inclined.) We'll tolerate most barbs, but don't you dare demean Bruce Springsteen, because The Boss is ours. He's stitched himself into the fabric of New Jersey, and by this point he's as culturally ingrained as diners, Tony Soprano and the neon lights on the boardwalk's tilt-a-whirls down the shore. It doesn't matter that Springsteen became rock and roll's future by yearning to leave New Jersey and find himself on the open road, to quit the boardwalk scene and pull out of a town full of losers, because even though he left... well, he never really did. He still plays rollicking shows in Giants Stadium on every tour and, with the E Street Band, awes crowds with rumbling sets that include the same hits from those iconic 1970s albums. The state's true poet laureate is now a revered social critic, and his music reflects his age and political activism-and from a selfish standpoint, it's simply not as fun to blast the new stuff and sing along even though you can't hear your own voice, because it's not that type of music anymore. There are no more Thunder Roads for Springsteen to find, only 41 shots for him to riff on. Except, that is, for about one month every year, when radio stations hide Born in the U.S.A. or The Rising and pull out a dusty track that hasn't been played in 11 months. Roy Bittan starts by tickling the piano to conjure bells, and the crowd roars in hysterical approval. Clarence Clemons does his best impersonation of Santa Claus and then, beautifully, Springsteen comes in with the simple words we've all memorized on the notes we all know are coming, yet somehow feel fresh every year: You better watch out/You better not cry/Better not pout/I'm telling you why. Then it's the crowd's turn, a reincarnation of the call-and-response Springsteen uses in all of his live shows now. It doesn't matter if you're in the car alone or if you're surrounded by thousands at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park; you yell, Santa Claus is coming to town! as loud, as hoarsely and with as much holiday fervor as you can. Max Weinberg ratchets up the percussion, Miami Steve croons in the background, Clarence solos on the sax-it's familiar, but invigorating. It's the best Christmas song of all time, because it captures the spirit of the holiday season. Find the bells and let loose. Embrace the company of others. And for goodness sake, fuhgeddabout the Jersey sneer, and be thankful the state is, indeed, not a glorified parking lot. We have, after all, given even the naughtiest of you the gift of Springsteen. = Happy Thankshallowistmas **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Cut and Run
Looks like Gabrielle is ready for syndication based on her Cut and Run (about cosmetic surgery) column in triCityNews today. A good read, Gabrielle. My favorite is paragraph 6, about dumping coming full circle. :-) I think you're the first to publish narci quest. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Accuracy or Fiction ?
the picture is backwards. showing a crowded beach in front of saltwater cafe, but no conv hall/paramount going north In a message dated 12/4/2008 7:21:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have a look at this: _http://www.wesleygrhttp://wwwhttp_ (http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/) Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Accuracy or Fiction ?
You mean south. California. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the picture is backwards. showing a crowded beach in front of saltwater cafe, but no conv hall/paramount going north In a message dated 12/4/2008 7:21:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have a look at this: _http://www.wesleygrhttp://wwwhttp_ (http://www.wesleygroveasbury.com/) Notice an obvious error? Drink at the meet and greet to the first correct answer. Werner **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Hanukkah Dinner at Restaurant Plan B
Hanukkah At Restaurant Plan B Please join us on Sunday, December 21st At 6pm For a traditional Hanukkah dinner and the lighting of the Menorah $18.00 per person Not including tax and gratuity Includes Brisket Vegetable of the day Latkes Homemade apple sauce Dessert Coffee or Tea Reservations Suggested Restaurant Plan B 705 Cookman Ave. Asbury Park, NJ 07712 732-807-4710 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Meet on First Saturday
The fireworks start at 8 p.m. Anybody who wants to meet and put a face to the names come on over to Market in the Middle at 5 p.m. RSVP so I'm not sitting there by my lonesome. If you're shy you can email me privately jennifernjca at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Meet on First Saturday
Tim McLoone Concert on the Boardwalk at 5pm... Convention Hall Tree Lighting at 6pm, Helen Pike, Dan Wolff, Ruth Ruth Abramowitz, Stan Goldstein, Jean Mikle and Peter Lucia at The Asbury Galleria at 7pm, fireworks at 8pm. I'll run like HELL for the Trolley and hope to see you still there at Market in the Middle! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fireworks start at 8 p.m. Anybody who wants to meet and put a face to the names come on over to Market in the Middle at 5 p.m. RSVP so I'm not sitting there by my lonesome. If you're shy you can email me privately jennifernjca at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Meet on First Saturday
They make a great martini. I'll still be there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim McLoone Concert on the Boardwalk at 5pm... Convention Hall Tree Lighting at 6pm, Helen Pike, Dan Wolff, Ruth Ruth Abramowitz, Stan Goldstein, Jean Mikle and Peter Lucia at The Asbury Galleria at 7pm, fireworks at 8pm. I'll run like HELL for the Trolley and hope to see you still there at Market in the Middle! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ wrote: The fireworks start at 8 p.m. Anybody who wants to meet and put a face to the names come on over to Market in the Middle at 5 p.m. RSVP so I'm not sitting there by my lonesome. If you're shy you can email me privately jennifernjca at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: BeachCam Status
I have been trying to post for many hours the great news that the BeachCam has been operational since 3:20pm today. The camera has been re-aligned and now has a terrific view. It may well be a new camera. I will not post the URL to the camera in this message as I suspect that the URL is the reason that my posts are not making it to the group. Go to the City's webpage and click on City Cams, then BeachCam (you may have to hold you Ctrl key down if you have a pop-up blocker on a PC) Enjoy - and thanks for that cam! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The BeachCam Status for November 2008 are in - and it's not pretty. See the graph here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg My intent is not really to be critical, if I can help to get that camera operational and reliable - I am willing! Glenn = Your negativity is not welcome here, if you have nothing good to say get out. You don't even live here and your post insults everyone who is optimistic about Asbury Park. I really enjoy that camera, its fun, if you can't just enjoy it the way it is don't look at it. Visitors keep coming to it and no one else is complaining. LOL :-) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
