RE: [AsburyPark] This is an absolute outrage
I'm wondering where they got the number 28 from? They were in sets of 3, and there are 9 groups of windows. That makes 27, unless there is a single one that belongs elsewhere. Anyone know? Very sad that this happened. I hope the culprit is caught, the panels are intact, and can be replaced asap. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of arcman210 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:09 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] This is an absolute outrage http://asburyparksun.com/vintage-copper-panels-stolen-from-convention-hall/ This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. I've been wondering about this for a long time, and now we find out this. Under whose watch was something like this allowed to happen? 28 copper panels don't just go missing. There needs to be a serious investigation. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: This is an absolute outrage
Ah, I see now. Thanks for clarifying :) They must be HUGE panels if one panel fits under 3 windows. In that case, taking into consideration the historical value, I would think that their value would be much, much more than $100k! Keeping my fingers crossed for a good outcome~ Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of arcman210 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:23 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: This is an absolute outrage They're from the three sides of the buildings (north, south, and east). Each group of three windows would have been one panel. The north and south side each have 9 window bays, and I'm assuming the ocean side would have 10 bays (not commonly seen or photographed). Where were these panels stored when they were taken down? And why weren't they put back up when the work was done? They've been down for well over a year, maybe two (the article says MM claims they were stolen in late 2011), and I can't tell you the last time I've seen workers doing anything on that area of Convention Hall (or any part of CH for that matter). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: I'm wondering where they got the number 28 from? They were in sets of 3, and there are 9 groups of windows. That makes 27, unless there is a single one that belongs elsewhere. Anyone know? Very sad that this happened. I hope the culprit is caught, the panels are intact, and can be replaced asap. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of arcman210 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:09 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] This is an absolute outrage http://asburyparksun.com/vintage-copper-panels-stolen-from-convention-hall/ This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. I've been wondering about this for a long time, and now we find out this. Under whose watch was something like this allowed to happen? 28 copper panels don't just go missing. There needs to be a serious investigation. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
No, but for each person who feels comfortable and happy buying that one cup of coffee, most are going to come back another time and spend more $, bring friends or business associates, etc. It will keep the place in business if you keep the people happy without sacrificing all the profits, and encourage them to make it a comfortable place where they can meet people for coffee, lunch, etc., word of mouth is also the best advertising, so that person with the single cup of coffee who stays an hour may end up sending multiple others. Just my 2 cents Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dfsavgny Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today No I do not and I did not mean my comment to be personal to you, so if thats how you took it, no insult meant. But the hard facts are that buying a single cup of coffee and staying a long time is not going to keep that place in business. The simple fact of the matter whether you or anyone else like's it or not is that the parking spaces on Cookman were filled most of the time. And now that they are not during the week is sort of pretty good proof that they were from folks just parking their cars there because it was free and not because they were in the stores. In fact, I've been in the stores with no one in them and all the spots on Cookman were occupied. So nothing lost by the stores because those people are not parking there anymore. Will some people who went to stores on Cookman not go there because of paid parking Maybe a few, but I do not think that will make or break the stores there. They have larger obstacles to overcome. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joey Schweigert joeybearnj@... wrote: dfsavgny - Do you own a business in town? Let me know which it is so I don't waste your time. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today
What I'm not understanding here is that it was just pointed out that during the day, Mattison Ave is completely empty. So, there seems to be plenty of parking at the current time. I can see that the parking that is available will fill up quickly as businesses grow, and there should be plans in the works to accommodate that, but it seems perfectly reasonable to park on Mattison to grab a cup of coffee, or whatever... is it just that people are insisting to park directly in front of whatever business they're frequenting? Maybe I am missing the point here, I did overlook some posts in the beginning of this discussion, sorry if I overlooked something of importance~ Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dfsavgny Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:44 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today And if there are NO PARKING SPOTS and they dont walk, take a cab or ride a bike, they will never go to get that first cup of coffee? That's the entire point of this discussion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: No, but for each person who feels comfortable and happy buying that one cup of coffee, most are going to come back another time and spend more $, bring friends or business associates, etc. It will keep the place in business if you keep the people happy without sacrificing all the profits, and encourage them to make it a comfortable place where they can meet people for coffee, lunch, etc., word of mouth is also the best advertising, so that person with the single cup of coffee who stays an hour may end up sending multiple others. Just my 2 cents Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dfsavgny Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Downtown paid parking went into effect today No I do not and I did not mean my comment to be personal to you, so if thats how you took it, no insult meant. But the hard facts are that buying a single cup of coffee and staying a long time is not going to keep that place in business. The simple fact of the matter whether you or anyone else like's it or not is that the parking spaces on Cookman were filled most of the time. And now that they are not during the week is sort of pretty good proof that they were from folks just parking their cars there because it was free and not because they were in the stores. In fact, I've been in the stores with no one in them and all the spots on Cookman were occupied. So nothing lost by the stores because those people are not parking there anymore. Will some people who went to stores on Cookman not go there because of paid parking Maybe a few, but I do not think that will make or break the stores there. They have larger obstacles to overcome. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joey Schweigert joeybearnj@ wrote: dfsavgny - Do you own a business in town? Let me know which it is so I don't waste your time. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] A Bit of History...
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!!! The big question now, is: are these two amusements still being stored? Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Ferris Wheel could be installed along the boardwalk, and the original Palace carousel could be installed in the Carousel House at the Casino? Wow. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wernerapnj Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:27 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] A Bit of History... or... Missed Opportunities... 1888 Carousel House and Palace Recent History By G. DOROTHY SABATINI June 8, 2004 In the summer of 1998, a hundred years after the carousel house within the Palace Amusements building was constructed, a story broke of its eminent demolition. A vast curiosity caught hold of some prior residents and visitors to the Jersey Shore regarding this 1888 treasure. Due to a quote in an article about the pending demolition, Asbury Park Historical Society founder, Werner Baumgartner, was contacted by a number of individuals who were interested in doing whatever they could to help save one of the last pieces of the history of Asbury Park. Greg Raymer, of Colorado, was one of the interested parties. In speaking with Baumgartner, he said he had been in contact with the Mississippi theme park owners who purchased the Ferris wheel from Henry Vaccaro. According to Raymer, the park was closing and selling the Ferris wheel. It was being sold for $5,000 and the theme park had a possible purchaser willing to pay $4,000. Raymer was a frequent visitor to the shore area, and especially to Asbury Park. He loved the shore so much that he created a Jersey Shore themed pizza restaurant in Colorado. On a trip to the theme park in Mississippi where the Ferris wheel and carousel were being dismantled and sold, he made a videotape of the still-standing Ferris wheel, which he forwarded to Baumgartner. The Ferris wheel, along with the original carousel, had been sold to the park in 1989. Raymer said because the park was closing, the items needed to remove by October 30, 1998. Another interested party, a Long Branch resident, who contacted Baumgartner after he heard the Ferris wheel was up for sale, said he was willing to donate $2,500 to the historical society for the repurchasing of the Ferris wheel because he would like to see Asbury Park have a part of its history returned. In the meantime, an unnamed benefactor, who had serious resources, came forward and contacted Baumgartner about saving the Ferris wheel, and possibly the Palace Amusements building itself. Baumgartner showed the videotape Raymer made to this businessman and he became very interested in preserving these historical landmarks of Asbury Park. The, aforementioned, benefactor sent representatives to the site to assess what needed to be done in order to dismantle and pack up the Ferris wheel for transport. After which Mr. Benefactor began serious negotiations with the owner, Mr. Williams, to purchase the wheel. Williams informed him he also had the original carousel up for sale. At the time, the benefactor did not want any publicity interfering in the situation, so he asked Baumgartner not to reveal his name, until he was able to secure the purchases. Williams and Mr. Benefactor agreed on a purchase price for both items. Mr. Benefactor wanted to store them at one of his properties in Monmouth County until he could find a suitable place to erect them in Asbury Park where they belonged. Of course, the most suitable place would be the Palace Amusements Building. Though the fate of the building was still precarious, Mr. Benefactor was also considering negotiating with Mr. Carabetta (owner at the time), and the City, regarding purchasing the building. During the first week in December 1998, Mr. William Sitar, the CEO of Sitar Company, came forward and announced that his efforts of the previous several months to bring Asbury Park's Ferris wheel, and carousel, back to New Jersey had finally paid off. It took four tractor-trailers to load all the parts, and within a week the convoy arrived in Tinton Falls with the items, where they have been stored on the site of one of Mr. Sitar's properties, the Twin Brooks Golf Center. Through the combined efforts of these individuals, William Sitar, owner of a large real estate company, as well as other businesses in NJ, Gregory Raymer, owner of the Boardwalk Cafe and Pizzeria, a Jersey Shore themed business in Colorado, Werner Baumgartner, historian, and founder of the Asbury Park Historical Society, the original Ferris Wheel and carousel, which once stood inside the Palace Amusements building for almost 100 years returned to the Jersey Shore, after ten years in a Mississippi Theme Park. Speaking of the wheel, it isn't really a Ferris wheel. The original carousel pavilion, a 100 foot square structure part of the Palace Amusements building, was built to house
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
Isn't that where the original Ferris wheel was? Trying to remember... Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Put a Ferris wheel in the empty space between 1st and 2nd Ave. It would have a great view, especially during Stone Pony Summer Stage shows, and it would look great in photos of the same. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@... wrote: I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
I think that the art aspect is wonderful, but why limit a city that's always been so diverse with just one thing? Let's not pigeonhole Asbury - rather, let's embrace its diversity, and utilize that. As for the question earlier about where the Revision would relocate to, there are a few ideas, but the first one is that if the Casino is rebuilt as it was supposed to be, there would be plenty of room to move it inward some, perhaps the area where the old fun house was? Or, better yet, it could use another building that is currently empty - last I checked, there was still nothing in the old Hitching Rail / Higgenbottom's Pizza Pub building adjacent to the Pony, that is longer and narrower but I think roughly the same square footage as the Carousel House. Also, aren't the upstairs areas of Convention Hall still not being used? Just a few thoughts! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:29 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... In business one of the key determinants of success is focusing on something specific and doing it extremely well. having a few rides will just be an eyesore and a half baked attempt at luring some families in. in my humble opinion i think they need to keep going with the art and music scene as far as they can take it. An adult playground so to speak. Pick a vision (werner has done a good job detailing why music and entertainment make sense), stick to it and then don't veer from the course. Focus and build. I agree with art, music, beerfests etc... I had a bunch of friends down and they loved the beerfest. Spent a bundle at the beer fest, ate at pops and then probably spent a few hundred in Porta. All good for the town. Let's not despair at this point. Look at what is happening on Cookman. Art focused, keep it going. Dan --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...
I've been all for having rides back on the boardwalk again. The investors don't seem to care what people are asking for, though. But I agree, a Ferris wheel would be a nice start, also some kiddy rides too. Just my two cents :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day?
There are no lifeguards on most SC beaches. The few beaches that do have lifeguards are state parks so they require an admission fee. My thought on this has always been that it's great to have the lifeguards and charge a fee, but that residents of that county (or at least that town) should not have to pay. JMHO, Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Iannucci Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:36 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day? I don't need the boardwalk (and its overpriced overhyped restaurants) to enjoy the beach, nor do I need a lifeguard as I am qualified myself. Which leads me to my next question, and maybe I am beating a dead horse here--why does New Jersey continue to put up with beach fees? No other state in the entire country charges for beaches unless they are part of a state park. And every state I know provides lifeguards, beach maintenance, etc. as part of their state budget. In the most densely populated state in the country, there is no excuse for this except poor budgeting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Oysterfest
That depends upon the email interface being utilized. If you cannot do it that way, you can go directly to the message in the Yahoo website for the group and use the drop down to select the individual when replying. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:55 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Oysterfest You can click on the beginning of the email address (mikeh@...) and it brings up a direct email interface. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: your email doesnt come through in your post. I thought it was better in 2010 as well. The food was terrible and I am sorry we did not go to the beach instead. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike H mike_hollemans@ wrote: Good Morning_ I am a regular reader of this board although I do not responds to much unless it's within my area of expertise or specific to our business (The Passion Group.) I would like to welcome everyone's feedback regarding the past Oysterfest and ask that you send it directly to me at mikeh@ if you would like a response. An when I ask for all feedback, I mean it. I am very curious why people thought 2010 was better than 2011. I am also very interested in what you would do to make the event better in 2012. I am willing to discuss all aspects of Oysterfest (i.e. Location, Vendors, hours, etc..) with the exception of the financials as that is between The Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce and The Passion Group. Someone is correct, there is a much smaller Guinness Oysterfest in Redbank, done in the White Street municipal parking lot later on this month. Like I said, I would like all feedback.good, bad and ugly so that if the Chamber elects to use the Passion Group to produce the Oysterfest in 2012 I can use that feedback to make positive changes. Thanks! Mike Hollemans Logistics Director The Passion Group Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Power
I had just moved from Asbury to OG the winter that we had the huge Nor'easter, I think '91 or '92... I can't say for Asbury, but I know that we were the only ones who didn't leave OG during a mandatory evacuation, and the power was out on my block for 6 weeks. The side of OG near Broadway was back up faster, I was on Pitman so not too far from Asbury, and we were the last ones in the county to get back up and running. I think that all of Asbury was out for at least a week or so, though. I remember that even Seaview Mall in Ocean was out for around a week, their emergency generator came on for a bit but then failed. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vinnie Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:09 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Power According to jcpl website there are 5500 ppl without power in AP right now. Has there been this type of outage before? New to both asbury and jcpl - wondering if there's any way to guestimate this as I sit here with no hot water and idle sump pumps that need some juice before my furnace goes under, Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?
Is this group really that bent on color now? I don't understand why this is an issue... I also thought that this group was not only for people who currently live in Asbury Park, but anyone who has concerns about it and loves the town. Since we're posting online, and don't see one another (unless anyone knows another outside of this group), we don't see what one another look like, which really shouldn't matter. So, here's me. I currently live in Charleston, SC I grew up on Unami Ave in Wanamassa, just a few blocks from the Sunset Bridge. I spent much of my youth at or near the Asbury boardwalk. I lived as a young adult in Asbury, at 301 Sunset (the beige/brown house on the corner of, I think, Webb) I have always loved the character and architecture of Asbury Park, and have always greatly wished for it to become safe and restored to its original beauty I miss Asbury Park, and wish that it were safe (and affordable) for me to move back there. I still think of this area as home Oh, and for those of you who are really particular about what color someone's skin is, I happen to be white. Personally, I could care less what your skin looks like as long as you are a decent person. That's me. Anything else you want to know, please ask. I'm on this group because I care about this city. I miss it, too. Namaste~ Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramona Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:21 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown? Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot? No it was attributed to you. I was answering the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about Springwood Ave, and about the job program. It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it counts ... with those that need help. I didn't think I was ranting I was answering all the assumptions. As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of the comments about white vs. black etc I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted! Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. Let me help you out. I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. I have lived and worked in town since 2005. I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a reference. I am raising 2 children here. Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. Long Branch Thornton's are my relatives too but I am not that close with them. As for my mindset that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I won't let it stop me from doing my part in moving Asbury Forward. Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again. Ramona Thornton --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@... wrote: #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me! Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the success of raising your family) are well taken. Once again, it's that be ready...cause trouble is waiting.. That's the scary part - for lack of better words. So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents. What are the REAL issues? - Is it housing - quality of life - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept ... Employment: - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and surrounding employers. For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural. - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of commerce? How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $ or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour. That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200 kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour? - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go, what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers? Can they come back and talk to other kids What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a $90 million budget. (as for employment programs
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...
I still like the idea someone had on here awhile back. Make the assistance - section 8, welfare, food stamps, etc, contingent on the kids having acceptable grades. Also make it contingent upon the parents attempting to get work or better their lives in some way. If the pattern is broken, the problem will gradually be reduced, if not eliminated. The trouble is that it's passed down from one generation to the next, in rapid succession since a generation in this area is often 14-16 yrs. Stop rewarding teens for having babies, too. -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fancypaaantz Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:12 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, so again you are still talking about the concentration of poverty/segregation. Here is the head start for Bergen County, it is in a couple of spots, none in the Northern part of the county and it runs from 845-345. That does not cover a lot of time for employment. http://www.bergencap.org/headstart.html --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. because that's not fair. some notes: NJ Department of Human Services Division of Family Development offers parents financial assistance to pay for some of the costs of child care. Parents must be income eligible and involved in a work, training or school related activity. - ecipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families may be able to receive assistance with child care expenses while participating in an approved work activity and also may be eligible for Transitional Child Care for up to 24 months after discontinuing TANF. HEAD START The Head Start Program in Monmouth County is administered by Acelero Learning. Acelero Learning Monmouth County Head Start provides child care for eligible children at several locations in Monmouth County. The program includes education, health screenings and nutritious meals. Home based services and a summer program are also available. Head Start also provides extended hours for working families. Families receiving TANF are automatically eligible for Head Start programs. I think they get around $6 million, Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...
If they don't get decent grades (or at least passing), the family loses the funding. We are paying billions of dollars in tax money for assistance programs for people who could care less about improving themselves, all they are doing is passing the same problem on to the next generation. There are, of course, exceptions - people who have fallen upon hard times and are doing the best that they can. That is exactly what the programs are designed for. But the vast majority that are on welfare or other government programs do not even try to better their situations. Laws need to be changed so that if they want the assistance, they earn it. If they don't want to make the effort, they lose the assistance and are on their own to figure it out. -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dfsavgny Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:01 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... dont have to be good grades but improvement and trying. when there is an incentive perhaps parents will make be involved and that is what is missing. A vicious cycle. As a liberal I acknowledge some of the failures of the Great Society and the welfare system. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: then if the kids don't get good grades - then what? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Asbury Park (was RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me)
Hey, Oakdorf, I grew up on Unami... don't know your age, or even your name, but maybe we knew each other :) I went to Ocean, class of '88. On another note, I could care less about race as well. I grew up so close to the Asbury bridge, spent lots of time on and near the boardwalk growing up, always went to the Asbury beach when I was a kid. I loved the architecture from the time I was tiny, everything from the façade of Convention Hall, the copper of the Casino, to the big Victorian homes not far from the beach. As a young adult, I lived at 301 Sunset, first in a small second floor apartment, and then in the larger 1st floor apartment. And yes, we had both white and black (and a Hispanic family briefly when I first moved in) residents in the building, and we all got along just fine. I live in SC now, moved for work some years back, and would love to go back to NJ. I looked into it a couple of years ago, but I cannot begin to afford it. One alternative would have been to live in Asbury, since it's cheaper. Why didnt I? The crime. I realize that if the crime were eradicated, then it probably would no longer be remotely affordable. But it's far too scary as it is, and I dont want to have to live with that fear day to day. I'm a single woman, disabled, and not as able to defend myself as I was at one time. And these days, they don't just beat you up, they all have guns, even the kids. I miss Asbury. I joined this group because of that. I would really like to see something done to make it a nice place again. I remember when I was a kid, my friend's great grandmother used to tell us stories about Asbury Park when she was a newlywed and moved there with her husband. This would have been in the 19-teens or so. I dont remember the specifics of what she told us, really wish I'd recorded all she had to say! But, I do remember the general feeling of all she described. What a fabulous place. And it can be, again. FYI, racism is awful here in Charleston. Worse than anywhere else I've ever lived. It's one of the many reasons I want to get away from here. Here, all the whites hate the blacks, and the blacks hate the whites... or if it isnt outright hatred, at the very least they ignore one another... it is crazy. I dont see why we can't just all get along. We're all people. I have no idea, unless someone brings it up, what color anyone on this board is. For all I know, some of you could be green with pink polka dots. I could care less. What I do care about, is Asbury Park, and as long as everyone is busy squabbling about what color they are, nothing will change. I realize that since I'm not a current resident there, there's not a lot I can do to help, but I'd like to if the opportunity arises. Those of you who are current residents have much more power in this, because you're the ones electing the city officials. There are solutions, it's just a matter of finding them, and seeing that they get implemented. So, you all are also on here because you care about this city. I am guessing that I'm not the only one who lives afar, but it sounds like plenty of you are locals and have more pull with city officials. Let's drop the color remarks, and put our heads together, come up with some ideas, and do all we can to get them implemented! And by all means, please do let me know if there is anything I can contribute despite not having been a resident for several years. Thanks, and Namaste~ Jenni PS - if you're not familiar with Namaste, it means something like this: The divine spark within me bows to the divine spark within you, because it recognizes its sameness Let's look at the sameness rather than differences :) -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:24 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me sharon you always have great input and you managed to raise good kids - with your husband from what you've shared with us through the years. So I want to share something with you as a whitey... I always tell people I grew up in AP. Why? Little kid we lived on wanammasa point rd, then we moved away - then back to wanamassa. My grandmother moved from our house to 2nd Ave then to Asbury Towers when it was ready. So we grew up all around AP. In wanamassa (colonial terrace) we we had to successful Asbury Park african american businessmen on our street. when my father went off to africa for work (not making that up) in my teens... these two men were there for me to make sure I stayed out of trouble and listened to my mother. So time goes on and I have kids. For the past probably 9 years, and now in the summers, my son's best friend stays with us. African American. Nothing funnier then when my summer neighbors see him walking out of my house and me walking in and him saying hi dad. So he left a few days ago and hopefully does well in U
RE: Asbury Park (was RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me)
No, her name was Michele Lepore. I can't remember her grandmother's name now, but it was her paternal grandmother's mother. So this woman had a different last name. She lived on Sunset Ave, close to the Wanamassa bridge, on the south side of the street. I can't remember the exact house now, but it was probably only about 4-5 houses, maybe 6, down from the beach. And I think I remember correctly in that it was prior to 1920 that she moved there. She was quite elderly when I knew her in the early 1980s, probably in her 80s, and she had married as a teen. They honeymooned in Asbury, and then moved there within a year or so because they loved it so much. I forget where they had moved from. :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cbrianwatk...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:52 PM To: AsburyMessageboard Subject: Re: Asbury Park (was RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me) Who was your friend with the great grandmother? Was her name Pam Linda or Colleen? Could be my grams She moved into AP in 1920 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jenni je...@lowcountrybunny.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:46:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Asbury Park (was RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me) Hey, Oakdorf, I grew up on Unami... don't know your age, or even your name, but maybe we knew each other :) I went to Ocean, class of '88. On another note, I could care less about race as well. I grew up so close to the Asbury bridge, spent lots of time on and near the boardwalk growing up, always went to the Asbury beach when I was a kid. I loved the architecture from the time I was tiny, everything from the façade of Convention Hall, the copper of the Casino, to the big Victorian homes not far from the beach. As a young adult, I lived at 301 Sunset, first in a small second floor apartment, and then in the larger 1st floor apartment. And yes, we had both white and black (and a Hispanic family briefly when I first moved in) residents in the building, and we all got along just fine. I live in SC now, moved for work some years back, and would love to go back to NJ. I looked into it a couple of years ago, but I cannot begin to afford it. One alternative would have been to live in Asbury, since it's cheaper. Why didnt I? The crime. I realize that if the crime were eradicated, then it probably would no longer be remotely affordable. But it's far too scary as it is, and I dont want to have to live with that fear day to day. I'm a single woman, disabled, and not as able to defend myself as I was at one time. And these days, they don't just beat you up, they all have guns, even the kids. I miss Asbury. I joined this group because of that. I would really like to see something done to make it a nice place again. I remember when I was a kid, my friend's great grandmother used to tell us stories about Asbury Park when she was a newlywed and moved there with her husband. This would have been in the 19-teens or so. I dont remember the specifics of what she told us, really wish I'd recorded all she had to say! But, I do remember the general feeling of all she described. What a fabulous place. And it can be, again. FYI, racism is awful here in Charleston. Worse than anywhere else I've ever lived. It's one of the many reasons I want to get away from here. Here, all the whites hate the blacks, and the blacks hate the whites... or if it isnt outright hatred, at the very least they ignore one another... it is crazy. I dont see why we can't just all get along. We're all people. I have no idea, unless someone brings it up, what color anyone on this board is. For all I know, some of you could be green with pink polka dots. I could care less. What I do care about, is Asbury Park, and as long as everyone is busy squabbling about what color they are, nothing will change. I realize that since I'm not a current resident there, there's not a lot I can do to help, but I'd like to if the opportunity arises. Those of you who are current residents have much more power in this, because you're the ones electing the city officials. There are solutions, it's just a matter of finding them, and seeing that they get implemented. So, you all are also on here because you care about this city. I am guessing that I'm not the only one who lives afar, but it sounds like plenty of you are locals and have more pull with city officials. Let's drop the color remarks, and put our heads together, come up with some ideas, and do all we can to get them implemented! And by all means, please do let me know if there is anything I can contribute despite not having been a resident for several years. Thanks, and Namaste~ Jenni PS - if you're
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
I've been reading bits and pieces of this thread. And, of course, I no longer live in Asbury, even though I do love the place so much! One thing that has come to mind. I remember when I rented an apartment in Asbury, many moons ago, that before I could move in, an inspector had to come out and give an approval for a c/o. The place was approved fine, but it occurred to me that if this was still being enforced - and being enforced on the west side just as much as the east - that it would force out the slum lords, which would in turn force out many of the tenants who instigate the crimes. Does anyone on here know if this is still a requirement, or if it is at all being enforced? Generally speaking of course, if the landlord takes pride in the property and keeps it fixed up, it attracts a better class of resident. Just my two cents! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. 1. In general, there seems to be some crime problems in Asbury. 2. For some reason, people just can't grasp the concept of cameras. Meanwhile, Hinge pointed out that cameras on private citizens house caught the carjacking helping the police to a suspect. Maybe some lawyer will sue the camera guy for invading the suspects privacy because they didn't have a sign warning of cameras. the city HAS to install cameras in many parts of town. 3. Asbury has an image problem. It doesn't take a consultant to tell you that. Yes, it's come a long long way via private monies invested into businesses and homes. And there are those who wills say - who gives a shit if someone's afraid, let them go to avon instead... 4. The police and courts have their hands full. 5. And of course, the billions in fed and state aid that AP gets in one form or another. Please, tell me where it goes. I read the budgets and audit reports. Good night. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
No, race has nothing to do with it, and wealth doesn't always either. When I was a landlord (a house in MD that I co-owned), I was extremely cautious about who I rented to. I wanted references, and wanted to ensure that their previous dwellings were left in good shape, that they were not trouble in any way. Now I am sure that there are people who commit crimes that also are very nice tenants, but I think that is not common. It would seem that if the landlords have to fix the place up, they would be very concerned about it being kept nice, so would be more inclined to screen applicants carefully. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:45 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night as a landlord, you can get he place ready for a co and pass - then the tenant moves in. Sometimes you get good tenants - and sometimes not, And that doesn't matter rich or poor nor by race. And the system doesn't make easy to evict a tenant either. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge gang of kids leaving fireworks last night needed a police escort
Ah, I see! Thanks for clarifying! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:38 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge gang of kids leaving fireworks last night needed a police escort I don't think it's illegal, but on the day I mentioned, the surf was really turbulent and strong. It started out with lifeguards who were still near the beach warning the group not to swim, and they yelled back at the lifeguards. That's when the PD were called in and it just went downhill from there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: Sorry to be so out of the loop, but it's really illegal these days to swim after 5pm Is it the same at all the beaches now? Why on earth are they doing that?? Thanks for the update. I miss home, but many of the changes really sadden me. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:02 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge gang of kids leaving fireworks last night needed a police escort Apparently there was also a recent stabbing on the boardwalk. About a week ago, I saw some gang members get arrested for swimming after 5 pm and then mouthing off to the police office who was trying to get one of them out of the water. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: None of the kids in this city use sidewalks, I see it everyday during the school year This incident from last night happened last year too for the latter part of the summer, and fights broke out several times, for an outsider it was scary for sure Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:39:10 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge gang of kids leaving fireworks last night needed a police escort I agree, especially after what I saw last night. It was surreal, and this group of kids was out of control. And what's up with such a huge group walking right down the middle of 1st? Have they not heard of sidewalks? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: yes. similiar events every wed fireworks. ive heard bw storeowners dont wabt to stay open for the wed fireworks. i think they are counterproductive on wed night and are inviting trouble. the wed firework need to stop. lets pressure MM --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Did anybody see the huge gang of kids being escorted all the way to the west side of AP last night at 10 pm? There were more than 100 rowdy kids being followed by multiple police cars and cops on foot. Very loud. Apparently there were also lots of bloods gang members in the group as well. They basically shut down 1st Ave. I've never seen anything quite like it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] On social issues...
I am pretty sure that if DIFS is called, they will do something. I've heard of them running investigations and removing children from the home for less. Worth a try! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cbrianwatk...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:42 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] On social issues... I see the exact thing from 4 houses in my immediate area, its disgusting I feel terrible for the kids Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:38:56 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] On social issues... The other day over by 6th at this building I'm trying to sell - the house next door - not sure how many people live there - but they are constantly screaming at the kids - not normal either - more like you f'in tis and fi'n that... I asked the building owner's son about their neighbor - he said those kids have never heard a nice word come out of any of the adults mouth. So what chance do these kids have? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] City Council Approves 16 block Beachfront Revamping....
NO! Haven't we lost enough of the city's architecture??? Clearly this is going in the wrong direction. Every time I see the rotting skeleton that was once the gorgeous Casino, it makes me sick to my stomach. Enough of this, why is no one valuing the architecture that has defined much of the character of the city??? Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] City Council Approves 16 block Beachfront Revamping This has gone on around every 10-15 years in AP - Aug, 1962: The city council took the first step toward a community renewal plan that would redevelop sixteen blocks paralleling the beach. Most of this resorts hotels, motels and guest houses are in this sector the program, which would change the city's skyline practically the entire length of the boardwalk, follows a master plan previously adopted by Mayor thomas Shebell and council. City Manager Kendall Lee said the Philadelphia firm of Walker and Murray had been authorized to prepare and application for apreliminary study for the federally aided project. The study would cost $30,000 with the city paying $10,000. the area to be redeveloped runs eight blocks from Asbury Ave north to eighth ave and bisected by the Sunset Lake Mall. The master plan recommends the demolition of many buildings dating from the turn of the century. the asbury park housing authority, the city's redevelopment agency, would acquire the properties, raze them, and sell the land to private builders for new construction. The federal government would pay 75 percent of the difference between the cost of the land to the housing authority plus clearance charges and the price private builders would pay for the cleared site. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: City Council Approves 16 block Beachfront Revamping....
I saw that, but thought you were saying that it is being brought up again! You said it's happened about every 10-15 yrs, so I thought we were at that time again. Hopefully not!!! Thanks, Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:21 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: City Council Approves 16 block Beachfront Revamping Jenni - that was from an article in 1962. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: NO! Haven't we lost enough of the city's architecture??? Clearly this is going in the wrong direction. Every time I see the rotting skeleton that was once the gorgeous Casino, it makes me sick to my stomach. Enough of this, why is no one valuing the architecture that has defined much of the character of the city??? Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] City Council Approves 16 block Beachfront Revamping This has gone on around every 10-15 years in AP - Aug, 1962: The city council took the first step toward a community renewal plan that would redevelop sixteen blocks paralleling the beach. Most of this resorts hotels, motels and guest houses are in this sector the program, which would change the city's skyline practically the entire length of the boardwalk, follows a master plan previously adopted by Mayor thomas Shebell and council. City Manager Kendall Lee said the Philadelphia firm of Walker and Murray had been authorized to prepare and application for apreliminary study for the federally aided project. The study would cost $30,000 with the city paying $10,000. the area to be redeveloped runs eight blocks from Asbury Ave north to eighth ave and bisected by the Sunset Lake Mall. The master plan recommends the demolition of many buildings dating from the turn of the century. the asbury park housing authority, the city's redevelopment agency, would acquire the properties, raze them, and sell the land to private builders for new construction. The federal government would pay 75 percent of the difference between the cost of the land to the housing authority plus clearance charges and the price private builders would pay for the cleared site. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: how do I get off this group?
Or, if you're receiving regular emails, there's an unsub link at the bottom of each one! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: how do I get off this group? Edit membership above this message. Then scroll down to leave group --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Bader rjb1166@... wrote: I have written emails requesting to be removed and still here I am. Does anybody know how to get off this group? Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour....
What they do here in Charleston, SC, is to put meters on all the spaces, BUT the spaces that are in residential streets have either one hour or two hour limits on them. The meter maids go around and chalk the tires so they'll know if the same cars are still there. It's not a great solution, but does deter some of the tourists from parking there. I think they could do MUCH better, though. When I lived in Asbury, it was a ghost town (late 80s), so parking was never an issue even 2 blocks from the beach. But, I recall what a nightmare it was for me when I lived in Ocean Grove (1st block from the beach). On most summer evenings, after a long day at work, I usually had to park anywhere from 3-10 blocks from my house, and that was after spending a lot of time driving around looking for a spot. Of course there are no driveways where I was, so the street was the only option. That was the main reason why I left that town, otherwise I loved living there. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cbrianwatk...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour Damn straight a trip to the council meeting is in order, it makes ZERO sense, and its basically screwing the resident I'm gonna work on getting some other cities residential parking guidelines together to give to our council Who double dips on their own residents? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:55:50 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour I just checked the city website. Zero mention of resident spaces, just zones in which your permit is valid. So basically, we pay $30 to hopefully be able to find a space somewhere on our respected blocks. Total bullshit in my opinion. Sounds like a trip to a council meeting is in order. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: What a debacle Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:46:19 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour Not to my knowledge, unless they plan on putting up signs and changing the numbers to Resident in front of my house. Basically there are 3 houses and one apt building on my block. The apt. has parking in the rear, but we three houses are basically screwed. How is that fair? Not only that, but the people on Bergh (who don't have to pay) are going to lose their spaces to the visitors and employees that don't want to pay for their passes. Amazingly poor planning in my opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: You mean to tell me these spots are NOT residential only? So basically they are looking to Double Dip on residents? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:30:55 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour This weekend provided me a look at how I'm going to get screwed if I pay for the $30 resident parking pass. On Sat, all of the new numbered spaces both in front of my house, up and down the 200 block of 1st, and on Bergh between AP Ave. and 2nd were filled. I went out for a few hours to do some major home and grocery shopping, and came home to no place to park. What's the value for me if there aren't Resident Parking Only spaces on my block? Major fail in my opinion. There's no way I'm paying $30 to maybe park in front of my year round home. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, M. filecabinet768@ wrote: The sign should have read: Do to the incompetence of out city officials and poor planning, there will be no charge for parking If it truly was a gift from the mayor and city counsel, the money should come out of their pockets or pension. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: I am the biggest proponent of paid parking for AP. I still think it was a smart move. More cars were taken down to the beach because of free parking holiday. Maybe some who hadn't gone down did, saw what they like and will come back again and pay for it. Gives a step back to those who criticized the doubling of the fees. I put the lock on my beach locker. Fantastic. All chairs, umbrellas and such stored there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: cheapest paid
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour....
FYI, the city of Chicago has a similar system, with the kiosks and numbered spaces. BUT, many, but not all, residents have resident-only parking on their streets, or part of those streets. It seems that they do this for the streets where residents have limited parking available, and also where there are businesses close by that are likely to cause others to want to park in front of their homes. The city has a system where you pay a small amount each year for a city sticker that goes on your car. Everyone living in the city is required to have one, but for those areas that are mandated resident only, the city sticker shows what section of the city you live in, so they can tell if you live across town but want to park there to go to the restaurant around the corner, etc. Seems like this might be a good approach for Asbury to take. JMHO! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 2fast4u Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:26 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: How NOT to make a few thousand dollars an hour I'm with YOU on this one! All of those posting about what a good thing paid parking is, DON'T live, where you live. You're paying property taxes up the keester and add insult to injury by forcing residents on your block to PAY to park in front of your home, not vacation home; your year round domicile. Those that make these arcane rules don't live near YOU! What would it cost to have resident only parking along that area? What a greedy bunch at City Hall. Okay, don't all of you knock each other down to flame me! I'm with YOU, Hinge. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: This weekend provided me a look at how I'm going to get screwed if I pay for the $30 resident parking pass. On Sat, all of the new numbered spaces both in front of my house, up and down the 200 block of 1st, and on Bergh between AP Ave. and 2nd were filled. I went out for a few hours to do some major home and grocery shopping, and came home to no place to park. What's the value for me if there aren't Resident Parking Only spaces on my block? Major fail in my opinion. There's no way I'm paying $30 to maybe park in front of my year round home. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, M. filecabinet768@ wrote: The sign should have read: Do to the incompetence of out city officials and poor planning, there will be no charge for parking If it truly was a gift from the mayor and city counsel, the money should come out of their pockets or pension. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] OPEN HOUSE -TODAY
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RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Just outside of Asbury, in the 70s / early 80s?
That's it! Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:40 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Just outside of Asbury, in the 70s / early 80s? also emerson's steak house. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: how about paul samperi's. But I think there might of been another one as well. it was torn down for a medical building. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Just outside of Asbury, in the 70s / early 80s?
Hi, slightly off topic as this was just outside of city limits, but does anyone remember a restaurant from the 70s and early 80s on the Asbury Circle called Gallagher's? Got into a conversation with a friend who also grew up in the area, I am trying to remember when it closed but especially what it was called in the earlier 70s when it was under another name. I can't remember what (if anything) is in that spot now, but if you're leaving Asbury via Asbury Ave, when you enter the circle it was on the right before the diner (if that's still there) and before you can veer onto 35 north. Anyone remember??? Thanks! Jenni [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park blaze sends firefighter to hospital
Has anyone heard an update on Jason's condition? I never knew him very well, but we went to school together so I did know him years ago... haven't seen him since high school but hope that he is ok! Thanks, Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asburyp...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asburyst...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:46 AM To: asburypark...@yahoogroups.com; AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park blaze sends firefighter to hospital Asbury Park blaze sends firefighter to hospital _By NANCY SHIELDS and CHARLES WEBSTER_ (mailto:shie...@app.com) • STAFF WRITERS • January 10, 2011 ASBURY PARK — Firefighter Jason Fazio, seriously burned in a midmorning fire on Main Street, was in critical condition at the St. Barnabas Burn Center in Livingston Monday afternoon, city officials said. Fazio, 41, acting captain of the truck company on the shift, went into the 400 Main St. building which contains 12 second-floor apartments and stores on the first floor at the corner of Main Street and Bangs Avenue, across from the city post office. No one was home in the one apartment that was gutted in the fire. Related * _Asbury Park Fire_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=B3Dato=20110110Kategori=MULTIMEDIA02Lopenr=101100801Ref=PH) Fazio was in a room in that apartment, which flashed over from the heat. He dove out of the second story apartment to save himself, Fire Chief Kevin Keddy said. Fazio suffered fractured bones secondary to his burns, Keddy said. Fire officials said they were waiting for medical authorities at the burn center to give an assessment of Fazio's conditions. Earlier reports were that it was at least second-degree burns, Mayor Ed Johnson said. Fazio's injuries happened on his 41st birthday. He was hired as a firefighter in 1994. The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office, the county Fire Marshal's Office, and state Division of Fire Safety, were all investigating the fire Monday. The cause of the fire was still being determined. This is a big puzzle we're putting together and until we put all the pieces together, we aren't going to have all the answers,'' said Garrett Giberson, the city fire official, said. One apartment next to the gutted apartment also was damaged from the fire as well as a first-floor restaurant. In all, families from four of the apartments went to hotels, or homes of friends or relatives Monday night, said Leo B. Pratte, chief disaster and logistics officer for the American Red Cross, Jersey Coast Chapter. Residents from all of the apartments who were home Monday were housed and given food by the Red Cross at the nearby City Hall Council Chambers. Our immediate concern is for the health and well being of Jason and for the comfort of his family and safety and safe lodgings of the apartment residents,'' Johnson said. (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoomSite=B3Date=20110110Category=NEWSArtNo=110110242Ref=AR) Fire burns on Main Street in Asbury Park Jan. 10, 2011 (SPECIAL TO THE PRESS: TOM BERG) Steve Herman, Asbury Tower, 1701 Ocean Ave Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Fwd: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY
Ah, did not realize that it had been enclosed--it's been years since I've been on the beach in Asbury :) Thanks for the info! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asburyp...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gg...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:42 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Fwd: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY Because it is not as simple as you think. The bulked on the beach side is much thicker and would take longer to access. Cutting holes on the top is faster and the holes are also used for venting purposes just like a chimney. Hope this answerers your question. Garrett Giberson 1507 4th In a message dated 7/27/2010 11:20:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, je...@lowcountrybunny.com writes: Why couldn't they access it directly from the beach? Seems simpler than cutting holes in the boards... Jenni -Original Message- From: _asburyp...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_asburyp...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of _asburyst...@aol.com_ (mailto:asburyst...@aol.com) Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:00 PM To: _asburyp...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [AsburyPark] Fwd: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY from the other list Reply-to: _asburypark...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:asburypark...@yahoogroups.com) To: _asburypark...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:asburypark...@yahoogroups.com) Sent: 7/27/2010 7:42:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY Had a small fire under the boards at Fifth Avenue this evening. I am not ruling out improperly discarded smoking materials as the cause. Thank goodness for the quick response of our fire department. This could have been a disaster for the boardwalk. As you can see they had to cut several holes in the boardwalk to expose the underside to extinguish the fire and also to gain access underneath. Garrett Giberson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Fwd: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY
Why couldn't they access it directly from the beach? Seems simpler than cutting holes in the boards... Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asburyp...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asburyst...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Fwd: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY from the other list Reply-to: asburypark...@yahoogroups.com To: asburypark...@yahoogroups.com Sent: 7/27/2010 7:42:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: [AsburyParkGLH] Fire At FIFTH AND BOARDWALK TODAY Had a small fire under the boards at Fifth Avenue this evening. I am not ruling out improperly discarded smoking materials as the cause. Thank goodness for the quick response of our fire department. This could have been a disaster for the boardwalk. As you can see they had to cut several holes in the boardwalk to expose the underside to extinguish the fire and also to gain access underneath. Garrett Giberson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
