Re: [AsburyPark] Flixster ???
SPAM! On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:39 PM, marioa...@aol.com wrote: Anyone else here getting invitations from flixster using name(s) from this group? I was suspicious, did a quick check, and I think it's one of those sites that commandeers a person's address book and sends viral emails. I block all such domains, but I've noticed an up tick in new ones lately. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Plugging Plogs ( Mazel tov, Evelyn! )
Calm down, Mary. On Jan 4, 2009, at 8:56 PM, justifiedright wrote: Out of 2,150,000 hits on Google, it comes up on the first page: http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/nj_plog_shuns_web_and_thrives.php Thanks for the recognition, Columbia School of Journalism --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In 2004, linguistlist.org was asked What is a Plog? and Did Amazon invent this word? from http://tinyurl.com/9ud3eb Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 02:01:48 EDT Reply-To: American Dialect Society Subject: Plog (Amazon's personalized blog) Did Amazon invent this word? [1] (AMAZON.COM) The PlogService provides a personalized blog for each Amazon.com customer. (TRADEMARKS) Word Mark PLOG Goods and Services IC 038. US 100 101 104. G S: DELIVERY OF MESSAGES BY ELECTRONIC Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 78201834, Filing Date January 9, 2003 Published for Opposition June 1, 2004 Owner (APPLICANT) Amazon.com, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE P. O. Box 81226 Seattle WASHINGTON 981081226, Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL, Live/Dead Indicator LIVE [2] (GOOGLE GROUPS) Re: OT - Some credit to republicans ... ll call, a plog of his daily activities. Plog = Blog + politics. A live web cam in his/her office. Sort of like Cspan, 24/7. And ... alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers - Dec 29, 2002 by Michael-NC From Welcome to the IT Jargon Acronyms resource center ! http://tinyurl.com/7xm52c This section contains an explanation of new acronyms and terminology, very often created by analysts and vendors to give you the impression that there is a new and interesting development. Plog - A plog is 1. A Web-based tool used by colleagues to keep tabs on group projects. 2. An Amazon trademark, which will presumably be used to sell more books. Plog: The Virtues of Chitchat - Making I.T. Work - Michael Schrage - codirector of the MIT Media Lab's eMarkets Initiative - says internal Web logs, or plogs (project logs), could be the best thing to happen to project management. But nothing is perfect... And from the BlogOh!Pedia Chapeau Blog Awards: A plog is a blog that combines polling, politics and blogging. Plogging is engaging in all three activities in one blog site. Coined by VoteAmerica.com http://tinyurl.com/5cmgnt And then there's Evelyn Plog who is one of the lucky ones who found true love not once, but twiceShe found her second chance at love husband Johnny, 3 years ago, through an online dating site. (NBC2 News Online - Spike in Internet dating ) Mazel tov, Evelyn! I wondered what to call such information: Inquiring Minds Log, = IMLog; or Curiouser and Curiouser Log = CCLog or 2CLog: Both got Thumbs- Down from my private emailers. Follow-Up Log = FULog or FLog: My private emailers really liked this one. I'll check with my word coinage attorney. ;-) **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Blastocytes are not children. On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one and have spent lots of time around them. I don't wish to discuss abortion with you here. thats not why people come here. They don't come here to discuss male abuse of power either but you brought it up. And yes you said mostly men abuse power over others, which is completely belied by the 45 million dead children. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Ads...papers etc...
No one's missing your elementary points. Or reads TCN. On Jan 3, 2009, at 2:56 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: I had(ve) an ad on the Internet. Basically cost me nothing. That right there is DJ's point, in case others on this board missed it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of maturity. On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news for a while, or jump on some anti depressants. whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some mantra meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and light or thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya know, anything positive. I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer, more armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men) abuse their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic things. and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted runts while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality. i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its supposed to be survival of those who cooperate. there are good things happening in the world. whats that story about the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you feed with your attention? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: Be careful about doing anything about it. You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jerseyshorej...@... writes: What would you have me do about it? On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: so what are you gonna do about it? In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Shock and awe. On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:42 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: humans (mostly men) abuse their power over others Abortion [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Crime on the increase?
Another fallout from The Bush Era. http://tinyurl.com/9agym6 On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Allan Peterson wrote: After reading a few articles in the press and a few posts on the boards, looking like there has been an increase in crime. We all need to keep our eyes open. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Discretionary killings: http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/ On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:23 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: one of the saddest stories of abortion i know involved a woman who got pregnant and her boyfriend bullied her into aborting. Are you suggesting that one story should be what we judge, and not the 45 million discretionary killings? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
I had no participation. Never voted for Bush and if you think acknowledging the disaster of the Bush years is whining, well... that's you. On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: Does being mature include whining that there is nothing to be done, and denying our own participation? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of maturity. On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news for a while, or jump on some anti depressants. whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some mantra meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and light or thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya know, anything positive. I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer, more armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men) abuse their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic things. and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted runts while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality. i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its supposed to be survival of those who cooperate. there are good things happening in the world. whats that story about the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you feed with your attention? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Be careful about doing anything about it. You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jerseyshorejohn@ writes: What would you have me do about it? On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: so what are you gonna do about it? In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Fess up..Which One of You Was It ;-)
Cutting edge? You're joking. On Dec 31, 2008, at 5:52 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw light...@... wrote: The offensive thing is having people who have never seen TCN treat it in the same manner as the NY Times or Washington Post. It is nothing like a real paper. It's not even like a real city weekly. It is what it is and it is successful at it. Just don't call it a newspaper... Not only is triCityNews a newspaper, it's an advanced form of one. Cutting edge. If you look around, it represents where the rest of news delivery is heading in print, the airwaves and the radio waves. Finally the news industry is catching up to our legal system for truth-finding - letting stakeholders in the news stories or their advocates present their resepective sides, with the public deciding what is truth rather than having a Dan Rather tell you what truth to believe. Read my column. It's where news delevery has been going and it is accelerating toward that. About time. triCity is leading the way. Happy New Year. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
It's not playing the victim. He stole two elections. Those are the facts. http://tinyurl.com/9q4xds http://tinyurl.com/ogrhq What's playing the victim about that? What would you have me do about it? Threaten to poison a sitting Supreme Court judge like mAnnThrax Coultegeist? http://tinyurl.com/4sxw7u On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: nice way to play the victim JJ. so what are you gonna do about it? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
IOW: Liberal media, my a$$ On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:43 AM, marioa...@aol.com wrote: Response here http://tinyurl.com/6sj3x8 Message 1404 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asburypolitics/message/1404 In a message dated 12/30/2008 11:29:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jerseyshorej...@earthlink.net writes: Never On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new- dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] My Homage To Dan J
Easier, when there's no rebuttal, huh? On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, justifiedright wrote: http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/12/30/deseno_tricitynews/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Fess up..Which One of You Was It ;-)
Now we have to read Fox comments, too? On Dec 30, 2008, at 9:40 PM, justifiedright wrote: Someone left this post over at Fox: Comment by TillieFromAP December 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm That Tri City News doesn't have news in it, just provincial blather and ads. You really can't compare that to a city daily. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Never On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Evangelical Christians have long been a base for the Republican Party. But polling data and anecdotal evidence suggest that younger evangelicals voted for Barack Obama at double the rate they did for the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry. http://www.northjersey.com/politics/Leaving_the_GOP_fold.html On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
To me Conservative means PUTTING EVERYTHING ON PLASTIC AND MAKING
OTHER PEOPLE PAY THE BILL WHEN IT COMES DUE. Nice work, if you can
get it.
http://tinyurl.com/7xjl5c
Oh, yeah, that and fraud, visions of monarchy, and a reckless
disregard for separation of powers.
Closeted homosexual activity in airport bathrooms is on the list
somewhere, too.
On Dec 28, 2008, at 9:01 AM, sharon_b283 wrote:
Mario,
I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
Klansman/separatist/bigoted/segregationists/skinhead, that make all
citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
of this beloved City.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@...
wrote:
Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
STUFF!
From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@...
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/
states
rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I
call
myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
--- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
wrote:
Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You
really
have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that
way?
Probably not. Not politically correct!
These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
_ _ __
From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ ..
To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with
reality or
pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to
reality
and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40
years
ago. They are not nor will they ever be again.
= = =
Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol'
Scottish
black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that
things are
not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your
sentiments
was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments
such as
these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak
English
and can complete a
sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe
Bush
should have
selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have
represented
the US much
betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your
families, cross
paths with the
people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing
you will
see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of
whining
about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about?
Blacks
are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way
ticket
is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that
most of
the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the
ideals we've
always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us.
=
_ _
From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
misanthropes posting here, always
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew
The Internet has surpassed newspapers as the main source for national and international news for Americans, according to a new survey. http://tinyurl.com/89b3yw Television, however, remains the preferred medium for Americans, according to the survey by the Washington-based Pew Research Center for the People the Press. Seventy percent of the 1,489 people surveyed by Pew said television is their primary source for national and international news. Forty percent said they get most of their news from the Internet, up from 24 percent in September 2007, and more than the 35 percent who cited newspapers as their main news source. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew
We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem! On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN - All Paper, No News
http://tinyurl.com/7uc4wb On Dec 23, 2008, at 3:47 PM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: As I said, the Pennysaver. Is that just a NY term? I'll answer my own question. It is not a NJ thing. There appears to be no NJ Pennysaver. Pennysavers are coupon periodicals (not newspapers) for specific communities. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
One day of world-wide attention, and only through the NYTimes and the internet. Otherwise, generally spent in obscurity with no web presence or clout of any kind. Most people would not describe the NYTimes as a failing paper. Hysterical? Whatever. On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:02 PM, justifiedright wrote: This is hysterical! New York Times, Gannett, etc. all failing, and the business model of the mighty triCityNews in AP is getting world-wide attention today as the place to go for how to make all work. Hysterical! How about some of the quotes? Double digit profitable. Dan is funnier than hell. Regarding the web: Why would I do something that would destroy my business? Or the Christmas party with 3.5 employees. Ha! The irony though is that he does seem to be way ahead of the curve here. Costs cut to the bone. Not taking risks - going with what works. The Wall Street guys and the auto companies should take note. triCityNews is about 75 pages now. That has to be the most pages of any paper published on a Thurday in the State (I'm guessing). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Congrats to TCN. Yes congrats, but YAWN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
And what's truly hysterical is a particular participant on this board championing a business for eschewing the internet, when he himself would shrivel up and die without it. No, this was just another opportunity for a Far Right Conservative to take another feeble swipe at their favorite bête noire: The New York Times, better known as The Paper of Record. Can we have another link to that Foxy Blog, again? On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: The best part of the TCN being 72 pages is that I hardly ever run out of paper to use for cleaning up dog poo. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: One day of world-wide attention, and only through the NYTimes and the internet. Otherwise, generally spent in obscurity with no web presence or clout of any kind. Most people would not describe the NYTimes as a failing paper. Hysterical? Whatever. On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:02 PM, justifiedright wrote: This is hysterical! New York Times, Gannett, etc. all failing, and the business model of the mighty triCityNews in AP is getting world-wide attention today as the place to go for how to make all work. Hysterical! How about some of the quotes? Double digit profitable. Dan is funnier than hell. Regarding the web: Why would I do something that would destroy my business? Or the Christmas party with 3.5 employees. Ha! The irony though is that he does seem to be way ahead of the curve here. Costs cut to the bone. Not taking risks - going with what works. The Wall Street guys and the auto companies should take note. triCityNews is about 75 pages now. That has to be the most pages of any paper published on a Thurday in the State (I'm guessing). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Congrats to TCN. Yes congrats, but YAWN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
Are you talking about the newspaper and it's viability or the new building they just built? Nevermind. The NY Post is a much better business model and when I say business model, I mean it in the Conservative/Republican sense of corporate welfare Think-Tankery) http://www.journalism.org/node/6757 Murdoch originally bought this New York tabloid in 1976 from long- time owner Dorothy Schiff, who had made it arguably the most liberal newspaper in the country. The editorial slant shifted under Murdoch, but ultimately his TV interests conflicted with the Posts ownership. FCC rules barred one company from owning a TV station and newspaper in the same city and Murdoch had purchased local TV station WNYW. So he sold the paper. In 1993, with the Post apparently on the brink of shutting down, Murdoch offered to buy it back if the FCC granted him a waiver. Several New York politicians fought for Murdoch, including then Governor Mario Cuomo who was often skewered on its editorial pages. A frothy mix of gossip, grit, and conservative ideology, the paper, with a current circulation of about 690,000 is estimated to lose millions each year, so many that it seems unlikely most publicly traded corporations would justify sustaining it. (A 2005 Business Week story put that number between $15 and $30 million a year.) It is the one U.S. daily Murdoch currently owns. Ahem. On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:00 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Most people would not describe the NYTimes as a failing paper. Ahem... Times Co. to borrow against building By Richard Pérez-Peña Published: December 8, 2008 The New York Times Company plans to borrow up to $225 million against its mid-Manhattan headquarters building, to ease a potential cash flow squeeze as the company grapples with tighter credit and shrinking profits. The company has retained Cushman Wakefield, the real estate firm, to act as its agent to secure financing, either in the form of a mortgage or a sale-leaseback arrangement, said James Follo, the Times Company's chief financial officer. The Times Company owns 58 percent of the 52-story, 1.5 million- square-foot tower on Eighth Avenue, which was designed by the architect Renzo Piano, and completed last year. The developer Forest City Ratner owns the rest of the building. The Times Company's portion of the building is not currently mortgaged, and some investors have complained that the company has too much of its capital tied up in that real estate. The company has two revolving lines of credit, each with a ceiling of $400 million, roughly the amount outstanding on the two combined. One of those lines is set to expire in May, and finding a replacement would be difficult given the economic climate and the company's worsening finances. Analysts have said for months that selling or borrowing against assets would be the company's best option for averting a cash flow problem next year. Standard Poor's recently lowered its credit rating on the Times Company below investment grade, and Moody's Investors Service has said it was considering a similar move. Times Company stock, which has lost more than half its value this year, closed on Friday at $7.64, down 30 cents. More Articles in Business » A version of this article appeared in print on December 8, 2008, on page B2 of the New York edition. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
Rupert Murdoch's 2007 purchase of Dow Jones Co. placed him along side the likes of Sam Zell, who bought Tribune Co., and Bruce Toll, who bought the Philadelphia Inquirer, on the list of tycoons placing big (potentially contrarian) bets on newspapers. Richard Greenfield of Pali Capital Inc. had a dim assessment of News Corp.'s acquisition in a Thursday note. Greenfield called it stomach churning to listen to [News Corp.] management indicate that reported operating income actually suffered from the acquisition of Dow Jones and observed that News Corp. would have created more value for investors by donating $5.7 bn to charity than buying DJ. On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:43 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: It is the one U.S. daily Murdoch currently owns. Ahem. Murdoch also owns the Wall Street Journal. Double Ahem. Facts matter. Not sure where you are going anyway. The point of the Times article is that other print is failing while TCN thrives. How does pointing out another paper that is not doing well (if you are right) detract from the point? Doesn't that support the point? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
Facts DO matter: The NYTimes is a globally respected daily newspaper, including a massive Sunday edition and dozens of stand- alone pull-out magazines and The TCN is a free weekly supermarket handout. And you're ridiculously comparing the two. Hysterical! On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:43 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: It is the one U.S. daily Murdoch currently owns. Ahem. Murdoch also owns the Wall Street Journal. Double Ahem. Facts matter. Not sure where you are going anyway. The point of the Times article is that other print is failing while TCN thrives. How does pointing out another paper that is not doing well (if you are right) detract from the point? Doesn't that support the point? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
Hysterical! On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:30 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Facts DO matter: The NYTimes is a globally respected daily newspaper, including a massive Sunday edition and dozens of stand- alone pull-out magazines and The TCN is a free weekly supermarket handout. And you're ridiculously comparing the two. Hysterical! You are right John I shouldn't compare them. TCN is way better. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] AP playing for Championship
Not that any of you conservative bigots ever know what you're talking about, but... On Dec 5, 2008, at 12:52 PM, justifiedright wrote: Not that any of you white liberals always blabbering about how much you love Asbury Park because of the diversity will actually go, but here is the game info anyway: AT RUTGERS STADIUM ASBURY PARK (10-1) vs. METUCHEN (8-3) Saturday, 10 a.m. DIRECTIONS TO THE GAME: Route 18 North into New Brunswick and over the Lynch Memorial Bridge. Proceed on Route 18 to the Campus Road exit ramp on the right. Follow Campus Road and make first onto Sutphen Road. Rutgers Stadium will be on the left. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
Go away. On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:32 PM, justifiedright wrote: Just taking you all to task. Elected officials aside, my sons and I were the only white family at last year's championship game and we don't even live in Asbury. I posted here about the Asbury/Howell Pop Warner game last month which was labelled nationally as the game of the week. I was happy for Asbury Park because they had a ton of people show up. But as I looked across the field I noticed not one white person showed up to support the kids. So if anyone laments that the surrounding suburbs for some reason don't know that Asbury Park is a place of such wonderful diversity, blame the white liberals that live there. The black people of Asbury certainly showed up for the kids. Merry Christmas. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2008 12:52:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not that any of you white liberals always blabbering about how much you love Asbury Park = A model of Christian charity, joy, kindness, self-restraint and peace-keeping. Keeping Christ in Christmas? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
Please try to sop yourself. On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:45 PM, justifiedright wrote: Mario drive down DeWitt Avenue Saturday night and take note of the color of the faces. Then go Downtown and take note of the color of the faces. Asbury Park may have diversity but it sure as hell doesn't have integration. But you just tell yourself whatever you need to, so that you feel better about yourself. You libs are good at that. Segregation is the issue that's firing me up lately. Asbury Park is segregated worse than I've ever seen it. Monmouth County has segregationist policies and it shows. New Jersey may as well be in the antebellum south it's so segregated. So fuck off, latte sipping liberal in denial who dares question my moral authority. Go pretend all is well as you drive past Asbury's state sponsored segregated high school that you couldn't care less about. Go raise money to save Trees whales and polar bears like a 21st Century liberal should. I'll be at the game. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:32:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just taking you all to taskI looked across the field I noticed not one white person showed up to support the kids. So if anyone laments that the surrounding suburbs for some reason don't know that Asbury Park is a place of such wonderful diversity, blame the white liberals that live there. = A model of logic and a reasonable conclusion. Not. Linking attendance at a game to an indictment of anyone's commitment to diversity is absurd. Those of us who live in Asbury Park don't need to prove anything. Especially about diversity: We live it. And after your smear campaign against one of our councilmen, lampooning his stance on social justice, you don't have the moral authority to take any of us to task. Take yourself to task; retract the malicious overstatements in your blog. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new- dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
And never personalizing. Isn't that special? On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: This is all a pretty good example of why the Republican party means virtually nothing in this country now. You spew the word liberal like it's a dirty word, and use it as an insult. In doing so, you just turn the attention on yourself, rather then those you chose to negatively judge. More good work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario drive down DeWitt Avenue Saturday night and take note of the color of the faces. Then go Downtown and take note of the color of the faces. Asbury Park may have diversity but it sure as hell doesn't have integration. But you just tell yourself whatever you need to, so that you feel better about yourself. You libs are good at that. Segregation is the issue that's firing me up lately. Asbury Park is segregated worse than I've ever seen it. Monmouth County has segregationist policies and it shows. New Jersey may as well be in the antebellum south it's so segregated. So fuck off, latte sipping liberal in denial who dares question my moral authority. Go pretend all is well as you drive past Asbury's state sponsored segregated high school that you couldn't care less about. Go raise money to save Trees whales and polar bears like a 21st Century liberal should. I'll be at the game. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:32:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ writes: Just taking you all to taskI looked across the field I noticed not one white person showed up to support the kids. So if anyone laments that the surrounding suburbs for some reason don't know that Asbury Park is a place of such wonderful diversity, blame the white liberals that live there. = A model of logic and a reasonable conclusion. Not. Linking attendance at a game to an indictment of anyone's commitment to diversity is absurd. Those of us who live in Asbury Park don't need to prove anything. Especially about diversity: We live it. And after your smear campaign against one of our councilmen, lampooning his stance on social justice, you don't have the moral authority to take any of us to task. Take yourself to task; retract the malicious overstatements in your blog. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new- dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
When you press a button called publish, it's published. Why did you think you could keep your pathetic droolings hidden from comment here, just because you post it elsewhere, to shield us all from what you knew were inflammatory slander and lies? Seems someone doesn't really get how the InterWebs and their Tubes work. On Dec 5, 2008, at 6:05 PM, justifiedright wrote: If you knew no one here would appreciate it, why bring it here? Just being argumentative? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How classy, blame the messenger for your own vile opinions. Nice, it just keeps getting better today... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2008 4:54:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ writes: == The smear on JK was all personalizing. Dan J and Ed Johnson had enough class to avoid any bile in their comments about JK's resignation. Call it personalizing if you want. I see it as objectifying the abject content of your posts. Except I didn't post it here. Jack did. You commented on it. I knew no one here would appreciate so I was respectful and left it alone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] TWO IN A ROW: Bishops win second state football title
WhooHoo! On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:52 PM, asburyparknet wrote: Asbury Park defeated Metuchen 42-14 today to earn their second straight Central Jersey Group I football championship. The Bishops led all the way in the game, which was played at Rutgers Stadium. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
Please stop your pathetic Judge Judy level courtroom bs. . On Dec 6, 2008, at 6:38 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you press a button called publish, it's published. Why did you think you could keep your pathetic droolings hidden from comment here, just because you post it elsewhere, to shield us all from what you knew were inflammatory slander and lies? Seems someone doesn't really get how the InterWebs and their Tubes work. John I need your help here because you are telling me two different things. You objected when I linked my columns here. So, I respected that you didn't want them here, and I stopped. Now you are telling me that not posting them here is an attempt to keep them hidden, so I should put them here. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Justified Right spews venom toward Jim Keady
I really wish you hadn't reprinted this toilet mold of an opinion. On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote: Posters note - please take notice of the ludicrous moment when JR calls JK A Bill Ayers wannabe. He also seems to refuse to acknowledge the good work that JK does in trying to prevent child labor over seas, and puts him down because he's trying to make a difference in the world. Finally, he refers to JK as A constant attention prostitute Seems to be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. Amazing stuff To call Jim Keady liberal doesn't draw the picture. He's a leftist. And he just quit his elected position as Councilman in Asbury Park, 6 months shy of the end of his term. Despite his claims of undying commitment to the poor of Asbury Park during his campaign, Keady now says he is too busy for them. He runs a non-profit dedicated primarily to complaining about the Nike company, who he thinks are slave traders or something (see picture). His company Educating for Justice fights other windmills around the world too, but more troubling is that he travels the country where colleges allow him to give seminars to students about the evils of capitalism. A Bill Ayers wannabe. Even in a City that just voted 9 to 1 Democrat, Jim Keady is alarmingly left. I've been to speeches by him where audience members yelled Communist in response to his words. From the dais he would read excerpts from books by such notorious America-haters as Howard Zinn, while he tried to end long held Asbury Park traditions like the Columbus Day Landing. Bringing condescension to new lows, the thirty-something gen-Xer felt he needed to counsel every person he spoke to as if they needed it, often handing out reading lists to people to improve themselves when in fact the people he was speaking to were on a higher moral plane than him. A constant attention prostitute, he sought out media whenever possible and was noted for sandbagging fellow councilmembers with surprise grandiose pronouncements designed for no other purpose than to make himself look relevant. His gaffes in his short career were many. He got caught overstating the amount of gang members in Asbury Park by 12x the real number and met the wrath of the business community. He played the liberal victimology card and ended up with nothing but a bad beat on the hand. He got caught entering the High School without permission to play make believe Dr. Phil by counseling students, even though he isn't qualified to do so. He was taken to task by the President of the Board of Education for it. He was on the failed side of an effort to build in a residential community a Shelter run by a company notorious for housing child molesters. The Shelter would have been a few blocks from a grammar school. Keady always voted no on Eminent Domain issues as if he were righteous, but likely because he knew there were three votes for yes to pass the measures. That theory was proved true when he was asked to help write a plan to develop Springwood Avenue. He wrote the City's power of Eminent Domain into the plan. Here are a list of his accomplishments as City Councilman: 1. 2. 3. Good Riddance, Lefty. DLTDHYITAOTWO. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions
Yes! Let's just have everyone in an information ghetto, where they only read what they want to hear by people who already agree with them! Perfect! On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:46 AM, justifiedright wrote: Yet triCityNews has just passed the 70 page mark. Better business model - better journalism model. The future of journalism is journalists telling you upfront what their political affiliations are. It's just more trustworthy. The fastest growing news delivery format in America is partisan blogs. The old format of make-believe objectivity is dying. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gannett eliminates positions at New Jersey newspapers December 3, 2008 . Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions at its six newspapers in New Jersey due to declining advertising revenues and the severe economic downturn afflicting the state and the nation. The company began notifying the affected employees Tuesday at the Daily Record, the Asbury Park Press in Neptune, the Courier-Post in Cherry Hill, the Home News Tribune in East Brunswick, the Courier News in Bridgewater and the Daily Journal in Vineland. The economic downturn we are facing is severe and is expected to last throughout next year, said Thomas M. Donovan, president and publisher of the Asbury Park Press and vice president of Gannett's East Newspaper Group. We have reduced expenses significantly throughout this year. But, unfortunately, as we looked ahead to economic forecasts for 2009, it became clear that we needed to make further reductions. Employees who were laid off received severance benefits commensurate with their years of service. Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: You've turned me around over the years ;-) Is that what the kids are calling it these days? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
They do all the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, justifiedright wrote: Yes - Christmas Trees. You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture take part fully in the American tradition of Christmas, without the religious part of the celebration. They wouldn't dream of casting an insult by changing the name of Christmas. Better to be inclusive and be part of the American holiday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New One
Every time i accidently click through to FAUX NOISE, I have to boil my laptop in tomato juice and bury it in the backyard for a week! On Nov 24, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: Why are you trying to start yet another post that has nothing to do with AP? We have a political group for this. Use it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better link: http://tinyurl.com/6zw3gg --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/24/tdeseno_1124_bailout/ #more -3443 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Gay parades do let straight people march. EHarmony wasn't specifically a straight services until confronted with gay clients. Your parallels are forced. Dating in and of itself, is not straight or gay. Nazi parades proscribe their meaning in there name and function. As does Kwanzaa. As does Vegan. Dating per se, does not. (Sidebar: Why is The Right so obsessed with NAMBLA? They mention this group more than anyone else.) On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: John, Sometimes you have to look not at the case facts, but the precedent instead. Sometimes a good result to a sympathetic underdog can actually mean a lot of undesired results for others. That's the part that is awful. At play here is a less often spoken of part of the 1st Amendment (but no less important): Freedom of Association. Should the Pride Parade be forced by the Government to let NAMBLA march? Should we force the Kwanzaa ceremony to open itself up to people of European descent (the services and celebrations are; taking part in the ceremony is forbidden)? Nazi's can march in Skokie in their own parade, but should the government force Jews to allow Nazi's to march in their parade? Should a vegan restaurant, open to the public, be forced to serve food I desire more than vegan? When private people want to get together with like minded people privately, the government shouldn't interfere. Sometimes the bigger picture gets lost when we start rooting for a sympathetic underdog. Also lost here is eHarmony spent much time and money doing research on the compatibility of men and women. They made themselves knowledgable in the field. They haven't studied male/male compatibility (while I'm sure some of it transfers, aren't there also some unique issues?). It's like ordering a heart surgeon to do brain surgery. He doesn't know the field. I thought the goal was to keep others and the government out of gay bedrooms. Why insist eHarmony come in? I did a post at www.justifiedright.com --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
GayPatriot is a self-hating conservative, so of course he agrees with you. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:43 PM, justifiedright wrote: Actually, the reason eHarmony attorney Ted Olson gave for the settlement was the uncertainty of outcomes when you go to trial or words to that affect. That's being forced. It's like putting a gun to someone's head to sign a contract, and after he signs, it, saying Well I he chose to do it rather than getting shot, so he settled. We didn't force him. He could have chosen to get shot. GayPatriot agrees with me: http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/20/eharmony-forced-to-provide- same-sex-dating-services/ By the way: California just certified a Class Action Lawsuit by gays in that state against eHarmony. Since eHarmony is already providing the new service, that suit is going to be about money. eHarmony wouldn't find them boyfriends, so they should get paid money. Good grief. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2008 3:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes the courts go beyond fair and reasonable. From Above the Law dot com (This site provides news and gossip about the professionâs most colorful personalities and powerful institutions, as well as original commentary on breaking legal developments.): Of course, the state isn't forcing eHarmony to do any of this. Ah, the beauty of settlements: better informed than voters, less annoying than judges. === From what I can gather: Since eHarmony disassociated itself from James Dobson's Focus on the Family a while ago, they decided on the settlement rather than testing in the courts. They weren't forced. Looks like they just made a pragmatic choice. Founder Neil Warren has wanted to broaden his company's commercial appeal and grow out of the conservative community in which it started. He's been reconsidering since 2005. In the meantime, he said, We have to get real civil with one another. http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/feature/2005/06/10/warren/ **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/ 10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/? optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
No: They are GAYdate by name. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:56 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Citing GayPatriot as agreeing with you doesn't move the conversation along, either. On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:23 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GayPatriot is a self-hating conservative, so of course he agrees with you. We were actually having a nice discussion, and I was enjoying actually doing that with you. Why go to name calling and allegations of prejudice? Just doesn't move the discussion along at all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Go for it. On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:24 PM, justifiedright wrote: So John you think the law turns on what one puts in the name? So if I opened an bar called White's Only that would be OK? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: They are GAYdate by name. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:56 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
...it's reckless of the government to force him to sell the product to two people he has not studied how to help. Oh, please. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
Has The Right abandoned the Socialist charge and moved on to the Fascist charge (mostly exemplified by the Bush Administration, which is the closest America has gotten to fascism)? Will the next imagined charge be Marian Invasion? Andromeda Strain? On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:25 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IF the merchants were so concerned about people paying to park or the developer was, you'd think they print out a couple of signs or wraps around the meters...free parking courtesy of The City of Asbury Park ends March 1 or whatever date and be sure to double the rate from .50 to $1 when it kicks in again. AND ADD FEES TO TICKETMASTER EVENTS... AND A $5.00 PER ROOM TOURIST TAX I'm gonna disagree with you on that, Oak. Right now the American people are getting whooped by Fascist bialouts - (Fascism = socializing business losses through government while keeping profits privatized. It's not Socialism - it's Fascism). Government and business converting your money to their uses with nothing back to you. That's Fascism. Were it socialism, something would at least be coming back to you (redistributing). Maybe Asbury would be better off advertising a bailout backlash or a bailout for people. No beach fees. No parking fees. Half the sales tax (UEZ). No hotel room tax. No tourist taxes whatsoever. Free outdoor concerts. Free entertainment in the green spaces (like Werner once pointed out - jugglers, acrobats, mimes, strongest man in the world types [note: saw a guy in AP with that show when I was a kid], etc.) Asbury Park - where you spend your money on yourself. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:38 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has The Right abandoned the Socialist charge and moved on to the Fascist charge (mostly exemplified by the Bush Administration, which is the closest America has gotten to fascism)? No John, not the whole Right; just me. No. I'm seeing it everywhere. But you're usually right in step. \ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Endorsing SOS HRC
If we can't comment, why are you posting it here? If it's not AP related, why is it on the board? These and other questions... On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:22 PM, justifiedright wrote: Please don't comment here because it isn't AP related. Hope you enjoy nontheless. http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/17/tdeseno_1117/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Endorsing SOS HRC
We know it's there. On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:31 PM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just so my friends (who I know don't read over there) will know it's there. you have friends? ;J) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Endorsing SOS HRC
And a HazMat suit. On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:49 PM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the link, but my Internet Security Pro set off all sorts of bells and whistles. Something about a web threat -- a website masquerading as legitimate. Threat successfully quarantined. ;-) ;-) You need to wear a condom to read conservative blogs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
WAHHH! On Nov 12, 2008, at 3:04 PM, justifiedright wrote: Mr. Keady, your rhetorical game is clear. Your entire post is personalizing about you and me. You speak in laudatory terms about yourself and malign me. The issue, however, is again completely ignored. Your Apostles can yell Bitch Slap and Oh Snap all they wish, but neither of them will address the issue either. I judge you on positions you take. I have supported some of those positions at times, and quite publicly. But your ledger is one sided. You'll never credit the times I've supported you, and you will personalize against me when I disagree with a policy. So I'll state the issue again, on the sliver of hope that you or one of your Apostles will dare address it: I understand that you object to Columbus Day and Kwanzaa on the basis that you think the City should not expend public resources on either. My disagreement with you aside, at least you are consistent. My complaint about you is this: You put your lengthy public stance on the record each year against Columbus Day, which is reported in the paper, on the basis that Columbus did bad things, and you insist that information should be taught that day. You do not put a lengthy public stance against Kwanzaa on the record. You do not insist insist that as people celebrate that week, they should teach about the disgusting crimes of Ron Karenga - Kwanzaa's founder. It is on that ISSUE that you suffer hypocrisy. The different treatment is about votes, no matter how much you deny it. I take it I don't have to respond to the probing, thoughtful analysis of the issue provided by your Apostles in the form of Bitch Slap and Oh Snap. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Deseno: You wrote: The reason is you fear no loss of votes over Columbus, so you let your bigotry toward that cultural identification fly in public. You fear loss of votes over Kwanzaa, so you make your objection to Kwanzaa only in the proverbial smokey back room. While you may make political decisions based on vote calculations and encourage those you support to do the same, I do not. I have always and will continue to do my homework on an issue, ask relevant questions regarding that issue, then vote my conscience. If you want someone who changes his mind based on which way the political wind is blowing and how it might impact votes, I am not your guy. If you want someone like that, you may want to continue to support your party's most recent Presidential candidate. It is clear that more than once in my tenure on City Council I have upset some of my most strident supporters for decisions I have made from the dais. I was not elected to make sure that I keep everyone happy. I was elected to try and execute the platform on which I ran, to be a responsible steward of taxpayer dollars, and to uphold the laws of our nation, our state and our city, and this what I have done to the best of my abilities. Mr. Deseno, you have never, nor do I imagine you will ever, be a supporter of mine. And believe me, I do not mind that as I find your politics short-sighted and self-serving, your tactics intellectually barbaric, and your demeanor two-faced at best. Having said that, I hope you enjoy the rest of the day. Peace, Councilman Jim Keady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Here Is An Asbury Park Discussion!
No, they don't. On Nov 10, 2008, at 10:41 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I got lucky, I go both ways - since I married a nice german catholic girl. SO it's Christmas and Hanukkah. Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on your wife's catholicism and her Christmas holiday. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Here Is An Asbury Park Discussion!
VICTIM! On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:54 PM, justifiedright wrote: I guess I spoke to soon. I just read Councilman Keady's last post, apparantly written as I was writing the one below. It appears my culture, my family and me are all being singled out by Councilman Keady. So much for the new unity and the politics of inclusion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Is there some importance to what Mario and Keady think about Kwanzaa and Christmas that I am not aware of? It was important to me what Keady thought, because I believed he was singling out the Columbus Celebration (and by extention my family and I since we did partake in it for years). Now that I know he is against public resources going to all such celebrations, I certainly feel a little better about it as I now know I'm not being singled out. I do wish he would oppose the rest of them from the dias with as much vigor as he does the Columbus celebration. Then I'd be certain I wasn't singled out. Would seem more fair. As for the importance of Mario's thoughts on the matter, I was accused by two other members of using a strawman against him (misrepresenting his views). So I went on a tear trying get him to say what his views actually are. If he has not said what they are, I really could not have misrepresented them. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
VICTIM! On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:41 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Deseno, I never ceases to amaze me how someone like yourself, who makes their living in a profession that demands factual basis for argument, has such a disdain for accurate and truthful statements. Mr. Keady, must you start off personalizing? Speaking of, I note that twice you remark about my grammar in the post below. I've said many times I post here for leisure. I have jobs where grammar and spelling are important, and this isn't one of them. Also when I come across someone not to my own standard for grammar, never would I take him or her to task for it in public. I treat people with dignity and respect. Since it appears important to you though, should you ever wish to engage in a contest where proper grammar in writing is the score, just let me know when and where the game begins. Now on to substance. You said this: You wrote: So you don't think the City should expend any money on cultural events. I never said this. Please go back to my previous email and document where I made this statement. I was clear about religious and pseudo- religious events. I also was clear about why I took issue with a specific cultural event, Columbus Day. Oh I see, Mr. Keady. You hide your objection to Kwanzaa on quasi- religious. So you disagree with many on this board (as well as Ron Karenga's Kwanzaa website) that it is neither religious nor a replacement for religion. Fear not though - the folks on this board who see you in Messiah-like fashion will not score their disagreement against you. They will just use it as an excuse to rail at me at the mere thought of having to disagree with you. Religious vs Cultural aside, I understand you to stand against he City's expenditure of funds for Kwanzaa. As I understand you, the reason you go public on the dais against Columbus Day and not Kwanzaa is that you feel the full story about Columbus is not told. You think of him poorly. Let's put aside that I've alerted you to all the bad information we have about Columbus came from his arch-rival, De Bobadilla, whose claims were debunked back in his own time (yet resurrected today by those who wish American history was bad). We can argue that again next October. Right now I'm interested in your excuse for bashing just my culture as opposed to others. You say it is because we don't teach the bad parts of Columbus. Well, Ron Karenga the founder of Kwanzaa, was convicted of kidnapping and torturing two minority women, beating them with cords, putting hot irons in their mouths and making them drink detergent. A shocking display of misogyny, cowardice, power, lack of compassion and inhumane action (WWJD?). If your excuse for railing against Columbus each year is we should include his bad story in our Columbus celebration, why do you not rail with equal vigor that we include Dr. Karenga's horribleness in the Kwanzaa celebration? Please tell me you have some legitimate excuse to clear up this glaringly hypocritical position? Oh by the way - the Catholic Church financed much of Columbus' trip. Did you rail against the church when we were trying to become a Deacon? As I shared in my earlier email, I do not support the City's expending of any tax-dollars on Christmas, so, your above question to me is moot. Then what about your thoughts on the private entity, the Chamber, making a decision to excise the name Christmas from their celebration while still using trees with lights, stars, wrapped presents and Santa Claus? Do you support the co-opting of culture and changing its name? On a more personal level, as a fellow Christian, I do not think that we need the State to edify (by celebrating Christmas) our counter- cultural commitments to following the Good News of a radical, itinerant preacher from Galilee (Jesus). When it comes to this, I think the sage advice of St. Francis of Assisi is worthy of consideration. Francis said, Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words. I seem to recall denying Jesus 3 times before the cock crows being a bad thing too. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy. On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:09 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whaa I'll recall these sage words the next time you fell strongly about treatment of you by someone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Christmas is German. On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy. As an American taking part in the Columbus Day celebration whom Keady calls liars, certainly. He was talking about me. As a Christian listening to a non-profit declare the word Christmas as bad, certainly. It's my identity and culture under attack. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Christianity destroyed my Irish culture in Ireland, so... whatever. On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Jersey Shore John wrote: Christmas is German. On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy. As an American taking part in the Columbus Day celebration whom Keady calls liars, certainly. He was talking about me. As a Christian listening to a non-profit declare the word Christmas as bad, certainly. It's my identity and culture under attack. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
VICTIM! On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:02 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He didn't just ask a candidate a question. Are you really going to pretend to be that naïve to cover for another Right Wing hypocrite? Go ahead. Fool yourself, if you must. He was a plant. A set up. A stooge. A clacker. An operative. Everyone knows it now, so you can just stop with the charade. It's looking very, very pathetic, desperate and insulting to the other members of this board. With the exception of one line, this whole post is personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Sexy Ideas
The failure of liberalism? Seriously: Get help. On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is another one about the different between liberals and conservatives. Please please please watch so we can better understand one another in our community. http://tinyurl.com/5mwc73 Gabbi one of the very few areas he made sense was in the discussion of entropy. It's a scientific law and inescapable, and really showed the failings of liberalism in practically denying its existance and refusal to do anything to make corrective rules for it. The rest was what I would expect to hear from a college liberal, to college liberals. It was grounded in bias and prejudices; I ground my statement in his mistatements about conservatives. The part where he flashed GWB on the screen with the quote you are either with us or aginst us - try replacing that with GWB's extraordinarly work fighting AIDS all over the planet, highly acclaimed by activists around the globe. Do that and the speaker's matrix fails. Conservatism has already reached the ying and yang to where he asks the liberals to eventually end up - he simply doensn't wish to concede that. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Live in your victimhood. You seem to love it there. On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:30 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VICTIM! No, simply pointing out again that instead of analyzing issues you attack the person. That behavior makes any discussion unpleasant and unnecessary. Try limiting yourself to issues and not conclusions about people. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] New Prez First Speech
She was a huge tarot card reader and horoscope/wacko spiritualist follower. Let the reality begin. On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:33 AM, justifiedright wrote: Factual inaccuracy and a swipe at Nancy Reagan, who is recovering from the same calamity as his recently deceased grandmother. Oh let the uniting and healing begin! Good grief. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Does the World Have a New Attitude To Us?
Porn: Republican values. On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:39 AM, justifiedright wrote: Italian politics are fun. They even have a porn star in the legislature: BRUSSELS (Reuters) Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, under fire at home for describing U.S. President-elect Barack Obama as suntanned, said on Friday he saw no need to apologize. At a news conference, Berlusconi was brusque with an American journalist who suggested he should say sorry for the remark on Thursday. Visiting Moscow, he described the man elected to be the first black U.S. president as handsome, young and also suntanned. His center-left opponents called the comment racist; Berlusconi responded by saying they were imbeciles without any sense of humor. At Friday's news conference after a European Union summit, the reporter asked: Prime Minister, do you realize that your comment on Obama is offensive to the United States? Why don't you apologize? Berlusconi responded: Give me a break! You have just put yourself on that list of people (imbeciles) I mentioned yesterday! When the reporter pressed for an answer on why Berlusconi did not deem it necessary to apologize, the prime minister, clearly irritated, said: Why (should I)? You should apologize to Italy! He then walked out of the room. Berlusconi's latest gaffe was on the front pages of most Italian newspapers on Friday. Berlusconi never fails to live up to our worst expectations, said an editorial in the Rome daily La Repubblica. Berlusconi, who prides himself on being a friend of outgoing U.S. President George W. Bush, is famed in diplomatic circles for making sometimes inappropriate quips. On his first meeting with Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen in 2002, Berlusconi complimented him with the words: Rasmussen is not only a great colleague, he's also the best- looking prime minister in Europe. He added: He's so good looking, I'm even thinking of introducing him to my wife. He sparked a minor diplomatic incident in 2005 by suggesting he had wooed Finnish President Tarja Halonen to ensure her backing for Italy to host the European Food Safety Authority. I had to use all my playboy tactics, even if they have not been used for some time, he said, prompting Helsinki to call in the Italian ambassador to explain the comments. (Writing by Philip Pullella, editing by Mark Trevelyan) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
VICTIM! On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, It's proof that you are an attention whore, because you refuse to post this in the political forum where there's less then 20 members, so you post it here so you can have an audience of more then 400. Personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
Thank you. On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote: Actually, It's proof that you are an attention whore, because you refuse to post this in the political forum where there's less then 20 members, so you post it here so you can have an audience of more then 400. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good grief. GOOD GRIEF Working on the campaign!!! Filing reports with his version of reality! While drunk Nope. Can't beat hope. Not with media in the tank. Enjoy the new world order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOXlo1npmY [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Here Is An Asbury Park Discussion!
Because government has never supported culture. On Nov 8, 2008, at 9:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: I've uploaded a new file to the Group. Find it here: http://tinyurl.com/62shsz If anyone can't open it, it is City Letterhead sent to businesses about taking part in the City's Kwanzaa celebration, sent from our official Kwanzaa Celebration Coordinator. Love to hear your thoughts on this: Is it an impermissible government expenditure for violating the establishment clause? Is it a permissible expenditure in furtherance of supporting a cultural holiday? Lots of other questions can be presented. Would love to get councilman Keady's thoughts on it all. I hope for a well reasoned and lively discussion with no personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
No drinkers in the Republican party. This beyond lame and desperate. You really need to tae a break. For about 6 generations. On Nov 8, 2008, at 9:21 AM, justifiedright wrote: Good grief. GOOD GRIEF Working on the campaign!!! Filing reports with his version of reality! While drunk Nope. Can't beat hope. Not with media in the tank. Enjoy the new world order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOXlo1npmY [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
As Paul Begala said on Bill Maher last night: 80% of Republicans want Palin to run in 2012, but 100% of Democrats do. On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:36 AM, asburycheech wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good grief. GOOD GRIEF Working on the campaign!!! Filing reports with his version of reality! While drunk Nope. Can't beat hope. Not with media in the tank. Enjoy the new world order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOXlo1npmY Good grief indeed! Honest to God, is this the crap that we'll all have to put up with until the next election in four years??? I thought the man-child haters in this group would have the decency to have their heads explode last Tuesday night so we could all give it a rest. No such luck. I guess we'll all have to grin and bear it until 2012 when the future of the Republican Party, sassy Sarah, will head the ticket. I hope so. She, like herpes, is the gift that keeps on givin'. Yes, 2012, when every electoral vote except those of soon to be independent Alaska, where they elect convicted felons and idiots, will go to President Obama, the first person actually to be elected in 12 long years. You betcha. Frank Get Over It D'Alessandro [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
No need to. The more you push this personalizing meme, the sadder it gets. On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:03 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Live in your victimhood. You seem to love it there. Personalizing. Not even an attempt to address an issue. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Prez First Speech
False: I refer to it as the world's worst-kept secret that President Reagan relies on astrology. Astrologer Sydney Omarr 1988 http://tinyurl.com/7qkbk Reagan became noted as being one of the few governors to actually sign astrology legislation when on August 30, 1974, as Governor of California, he signed legislation which became Chapter 583, and added Section 50027 to the government Code, relating to astrology. The legislation removed Sacramento licensed astrologers from the category of fortune tellers, thus allowing them to practice their trade for compensation. According to Reagan's former Chief of Staff Donald Regan, the prime source of astrological direction inside the Reagan White House was being provided by San Francisco star gazer Joan Quigley. In his book For the Record Regan stated that Nancy Reagan planned almost all presidential travel, press conferences, and even the president's cancer surgery based on information she was receiving from Quigley. Regan made his stunning revelation concerning the use of astrology after being forced out of the White House by Nancy Reagan. It was a revelation that upset many inside and outside the White House including another prominent astrologer Jean Dixon. Dixon, an astrologer who became nationally prominent for her prediction of the assassination of President John Kennedy, was once an astrological advisor to Reagan. Dixon had gained the favor of the future president by predicting in 1962 that he would become Governor of California, and later President of the United States. She was always gung ho for me to be President, said Reagan. She was dropped by Nancy in 1976, when she stated that Reagan would not gain the presidency that year. Nancy figured that Dixon had lost her powers of prediction. Joan Quigley was quickly picked up by Nancy as the next seer, even though she too predicted that 1976 would not be the year for Reagan. In 1988, when the astrology scandal broke at the White House, Dixon sent Reagan a copy of an New York Times editorial she had just written supporting the use of astrology. I would shoot a few people if I were you for talking, she wrote in an attacked handwritten note to the President. The astrology news was announced, mysteriously and coincidentally, on almost the same day as the death of Carroll Righter. Righter, a prominent Hollywood astrologer, was rumored to have been President Reagan's favorite astrologer during a long 45 year relationship. Reagan even admitted in his 1965 autobiography Where's the Rest of Me that he and Righter were friends, and that he and Nancy read Righter's column regularly. As to your Hillary misinformation: Imaginary conversations are not seances: The woman described by Bob Woodward as a spiritual adviser to first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton disputed several of Woodward's published assertions Sunday night . http://www.cnn.com/US/9606/24/clinton.houston/ Jean Houston, interviewed at the Newark Airport by CNN, said that Mrs. Clinton did indeed have imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt at Houston's suggestion. (But) that was maybe four minutes out of hours and hours of conversation, she said. In his new book The Choice, Woodward wrote that Houston, co-director of the Foundation of Mind Research, urged Mrs. Clinton to write It Takes a Village, and assisted extensively in rewrites. Houston said that she did help edit the book, but that Mrs. Clinton wrote that book entirely. Houston said she made the suggestion to hold the imaginary conversations with Mrs. Roosevelt and others to focus her busy mind on issues that surrounded the book. That was it, Houston said. No spooks. No seances. Nothing. She's the least psychic person I've known, and I'm a close second. ... I don't have a psychic bone in my body. You are so full of gutter BS talking points it's utterly astounding. You want to stop the personal attacks? Stop lying. On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:06 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She was a huge tarot card reader and horoscope/wacko spiritualist follower. Let the reality begin. But it was Hillary Clinton who used to hold seances to speak with Eleanor Roosevelt, not Nancy Reagan. THat's why the joke fell flat. Facts matter, Mr. Obama, facts matter. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
I AM A VICTIM! On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:07 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VICTIM! Personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
Idiocy. On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:08 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really need to tae a break. For about 6 generations. Personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] And another...
It stinks. On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:32 PM, justifiedright wrote: Love to know your thoughts: http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/08/tdeseno_1108/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Proof Of Media In the Tank for Obama
US voters want the Republican Party, which took a beating in this week's general elections, to embrace progressiveness and work with Democratic president-elect Barack Obama to get America back on track, a poll showed Friday. http://tinyurl.com/65h5mc On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Jersey Shore John wrote: As Paul Begala said on Bill Maher last night: 80% of Republicans want Palin to run in 2012, but 100% of Democrats do. On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:36 AM, asburycheech wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good grief. GOOD GRIEF Working on the campaign!!! Filing reports with his version of reality! While drunk Nope. Can't beat hope. Not with media in the tank. Enjoy the new world order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOXlo1npmY Good grief indeed! Honest to God, is this the crap that we'll all have to put up with until the next election in four years??? I thought the man-child haters in this group would have the decency to have their heads explode last Tuesday night so we could all give it a rest. No such luck. I guess we'll all have to grin and bear it until 2012 when the future of the Republican Party, sassy Sarah, will head the ticket. I hope so. She, like herpes, is the gift that keeps on givin'. Yes, 2012, when every electoral vote except those of soon to be independent Alaska, where they elect convicted felons and idiots, will go to President Obama, the first person actually to be elected in 12 long years. You betcha. Frank Get Over It D'Alessandro [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Prez First Speech
On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:03 PM, justifiedright wrote: I guess it's Barack and me vs. you. Once again, mischaracterizing the situation to your advantage, to make you feel better. Pretending people are agreeing with you when they most certainly aren't. You need that, now. Go for it. As far as the real world: It'll never be Barack and you versus me. Not with the kind of swill you write. Not in a million years. Which may be the next time the Republicans gain any semblance of power. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] And another...
Love to know your thoughts: http://tinyurl.com/55qtfj On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:32 PM, justifiedright wrote: Love to know your thoughts: http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/08/tdeseno_1108/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Prez First Speech
Because at this point in time, the request of civility from The Right after 8 years of Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, Beck, and the rest of that barnyard could not be a bigger joke. Piles and piles of Right Wing talking points? You're better than that. On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:13 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:03 PM, justifiedright wrote: I guess it's Barack and me vs. you. Once again, mischaracterizing the situation to your advantage, to make you feel better. Pretending people are agreeing with you when they most certainly aren't. You need that, now. Go for it. As far as the real world: It'll never be Barack and you versus me. Not with the kind of swill you write. Not in a million years. Which may be the next time the Republicans gain any semblance of power. All personalizing. All about me. Not one word analyzing that Obama apologized. Just personalizing. The problem is I think you are better than that. I'm certain you have the mental hardiness to handle a conversation where you make no conclusions about the other writer. Why not try it? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
The actual intent behind Senator Obama's misstatement is easy to discern without the need to invoke an obscure international organization. He was trying to express the thought that in all the time he had spent on the campaign trail so far in 2007-08, he had visited all (48) of the states in the continental U.S. save for one (i.e., one left to go, excluding Alaska and Hawaii), but in his weariness he slipped up and started off with fifty instead of forty. (Note the long pause in the video clip between the words fifty and seven.) http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:45 AM, sharon_b283 wrote: So watch the videotapes of her interviews on CBS! Dumb as a post! 3 colleges in 4 years, for a liberal arts degree! I never ran for office, because I put my kids and their education, first! I am traditional in that regard. So smarty-pants, YOU run and kick Corzine out! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think you are smarter, than run for governor. Let's see how far you can get. It's very easy to call people you don't like names, however, it's a lot classier to admit what they have accomplished and just move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: I saw her go rouge, lavender and beige. It didn't help. She's an empty suit dress. On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:12 PM, justifiedright wrote: I have to agree Dan. What was attracting people to Obama was a positive message of hope (leave aside that no one knows how that translates to policy). Hope was carrying the day. I thought right away to combat hope with negativity was the wrong way to go. It was also contrary to what has worked for McCain over the years. I'd give anything to switch careers and go in to political consulting. McCain needed to craft his own hopeful message with a bit of policy sprinkled in. Not that I would have ignored the Ayers issue. Ayers did the same thing Bin Laden did. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Probably the biggest chord she struck was her promise to advocate for kids with disabilities. Another lie: Sarah Palin Slashed Special Needs Education by 62% For those of you who seem so enamored with Gov. Sarah Palin, it might be worth noting that she oversees the budget for the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools in Alaska. These funds provide supplementary educational services to students with severe disabling conditions and the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. The resident school where the child would normally be placed does not have the resources to provide an adequate educational program. Without the supplementary services the child’s needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases. The Annual budget for 2007, which preceded Gov. Palin was $8,265,300. The Annual budget for 2008, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000. The Annual budget for 2009, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000. This is a cut in special needs services to children in Alaska of 5,109,300 , or 62%. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
...but I understand she has been invited to every talk show in America right now (most are probably looking to make themselves feel better after the way she's been treated). No. It's like having William Hung on your show. She's a freak act from the side show tent now. Plus, when it mattered: For the first time ever, we have a vice presidential candidate who has been shielded from the press to the extent that she has not held a single, full-length press conference at which reporters are permitted wide-ranging leeway to ask questions on policy issues, campaign developments, personal and professional qualifications of the candidate, etc. The closest we probably will come is this set of fluff questions and answers from a brief question and answer period aboard Palin's campaign plane. I guarantee that the reporters were told that they risked being shut off completely once again if they strayed from the approved list of topics or attempted to press her on any of her responses. http://alaskapoliticsblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/day-53-of-no-palin- press-conferences.html Why does Palin hate the First Amendment? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Palin's ignorance of NAFTA and Africa were not, however slips of the tongue On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:18 AM, justifiedright wrote: John I think the point is that of course, everyone knows Obama knows there are 50 states and not 60. Certainly he made a tired slip of the tongue. Follow anyone with a Camera for 2 years and you'll catch them in a slip of the tongue. The problem is sometimes the media targets someone as stupid, and will take any slip of the tongue as proof of stupidity. For some reason, they were looking for any slip by Palin as proof of stupidity. They did the same to Dan Quale. There are a great deal of stupid quotes on the net attributed to him he never said. Go check out the video of the Potato incident. The teacher handed Quayle the spelling words on index cards. You see them right in his hands. On the index card, potato was spelled with an e. Honestly, if I'm sitting there with a misspelled index card handed to me by the teacher, I'm going to go by what was on the card. I think almost anyone would. The media can ruin anyone once they decide to tell a story and stay with it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The actual intent behind Senator Obama's misstatement is easy to discern without the need to invoke an obscure international organization. He was trying to express the thought that in all the time he had spent on the campaign trail so far in 2007-08, he had visited all (48) of the states in the continental U.S. save for one (i.e., one left to go, excluding Alaska and Hawaii), but in his weariness he slipped up and started off with fifty instead of forty. (Note the long pause in the video clip between the words fifty and seven.) http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:45 AM, sharon_b283 wrote: So watch the videotapes of her interviews on CBS! Dumb as a post! 3 colleges in 4 years, for a liberal arts degree! I never ran for office, because I put my kids and their education, first! I am traditional in that regard. So smarty-pants, YOU run and kick Corzine out! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 mark07712@ wrote: If you think you are smarter, than run for governor. Let's see how far you can get. It's very easy to call people you don't like names, however, it's a lot classier to admit what they have accomplished and just move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: I saw her go rouge, lavender and beige. It didn't help. She's an empty suit dress. On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:12 PM, justifiedright wrote: I have to agree Dan. What was attracting people to Obama was a positive message of hope (leave aside that no one knows how that translates to policy). Hope was carrying the day. I thought right away to combat hope with negativity was the wrong way to go. It was also contrary to what has worked for McCain over the years. I'd give anything to switch careers and go in to political consulting. McCain needed to craft his own hopeful message with a bit of policy sprinkled in. Not that I would have ignored the Ayers issue. Ayers did the same thing Bin Laden did. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Oh. You quote FOX CONSTANTLY (almost exclusively, now that you're a content provider- how unbiased!) and have the NERVE to deride someone's news source? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: Nice job quoting Daily Kos. The reduction was done by the man she defeated, Murkowski. Here's the real story, staight from Alaska: Gov. Sarah Palin and state lawmakers have gone ahead with an overhaul of Alaska's school funding system that supporters predict will provide much-needed financial help to rural schools and those serving students with disabilities. The plan, enacted in the recently concluded session of the legislature, is based on recommendations issued by a legislative task force last year. It will phase in a greater flow of money to districts outside of Anchorage, Alaska's largest city, over the next five years. Advocates for rural and remote schools have lobbied for years for more funding, in particular noting the higher fuel, transportation, and other costs associated with providing education in communities scattered across the vast state. A second part of the measure raises spending for students with special needs to $73,840 in fiscal 2011, from the current $26,900 per student in fiscal 2008, according to the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development (emphasis added). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the biggest chord she struck was her promise to advocate for kids with disabilities. Another lie: Sarah Palin Slashed Special Needs Education by 62% For those of you who seem so enamored with Gov. Sarah Palin, it might be worth noting that she oversees the budget for the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools in Alaska. These funds provide supplementary educational services to students with severe disabling conditions and the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. The resident school where the child would normally be placed does not have the resources to provide an adequate educational program. Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases. The Annual budget for 2007, which preceded Gov. Palin was $8,265,300. The Annual budget for 2008, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000. The Annual budget for 2009, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000. This is a cut in special needs services to children in Alaska of 5,109,300 , or 62%. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Let the Censorship Begin
Or alien, for that matter... On Nov 7, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: Allowing the government to outlaw words is pretty insane. It will never change how people feel about immigrants. Just a noose for everyone to hang themselves on because we are more afraid of hurt feelings than loss of freedom. BUT...I agree that there is no such thing as an illegal person and people coming to this country in hope of something better are looked down upon. and therefore a term that simply describes someone's citizen status has been turned into a slur by hateful, fearful egocentric and ethnocentric people. that's what needs to change. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Why would you disagree? Allow government to outlaw words? Allow judges the power of prior judicial restraint of speech which has been disallowed since the passing of the bill of rights? Gee, I don't. What could possibly go wrong? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
No source except all the guys from the McCain camp who, i guess, you don't believe anymore... On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:00 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Palin's ignorance of NAFTA and Africa were not, however slips of the tongue If you believe that to be true, then yes. There is no source that we can identify that says it is true. Since you brought it up, Obama twice asked the UN Security Council to sanction Russia. Since he did it twice, that too is not a slip of the tongue. It does mean that he knows not even the most basic tenant of UN policy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
That's not the source. He just reported it, but I wouldn't expect you to know the difference. I am so not on your team. (Why do Right Wingers online constantly try to claim people are agreeing with them, when no one is?) On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:18 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No source except all the guys from the McCain camp who, i guess, you don't believe anymore... Actually the only source is Carl Cameron of Fox News, who I guess you believe now. Welcome to the team, John! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Let the Censorship Begin
Tommy should just get up on a cross and get it over with. On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:27 PM, fancypaaantz wrote: Please stop with the personalizing nonsense. I did not express an opinion positive or negative about what the court did, I was just pointing out that you mischaracterized the article, I assume, to start another inflamatory discussion thread. I have honestly had enough of this board and these discussions. Have fun! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Women Who Post Here
On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:41 PM, justifiedright wrote: If he had asked Olympia Snowe he wouldn't have even come in second in the race. Another thing you have no way of knowing or proving. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] The Women Who Post Here
In a message dated 11/7/2008 11:19:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is sometimes the media targets someone as stupid, and will take any slip of the tongue as proof of stupidity. For some reason, they were looking for any slip by Palin as proof of stupidity. . Then she obliged them over and over and over. Proving to the US and the world: She just wasn't ready, and most likely never will be. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Uh Oh! Someone didn't get the Bush Monumental Global Disaster memo!
You. Get ready as they UNcook the books and we see REALLY how bad the economy is. Great job, George! Really. Heckuva job! On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:31 PM, justifiedright wrote: BAGHDAD Two Iraqi insurgent groups called on President-elect Barack Obama to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan and abandon the war on terror, an Internet monitoring service reported Friday. Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, self-styled head of the Al Qaeda front group the Islamic State of Iraq, said in a speech posted on an extremist Web site that it would be better for you and us to withdraw your forces and return to your homes, according to the SITE Intelligence Group that monitors militant Web sites. Al-Baghdadi blamed the global financial crisis on the wars launched in Muslim countries and said he was issuing the call on behalf of my brothers in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Chechnya, SITE said. The U.S. military says al-Baghdadi is an actor who provides a voice for Al Qaeda in Iraq propaganda. In a separate statement, the Mujahedeen Army, a Sunni insurgent group, urged Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq or face days that will be more difficult than the nightmare experienced by his predecessor. According to SITE, the statement said both Democrats and Republicans share attitudes hostile to Muslims and both support Israel, which means there will be little change in U.S. policy in the Middle East. The one who won the presidential election won the approval of the Jewish lobby, which controls, to a large extent, the administration of American foreign policy, the Mujahedeen Army statement said. The Islamic State of Iraq purports to be an umbrella organization of religious extremist groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq. The Mujahedeen Army emerged in late 2004 and has distanced itself from al-Qaida because of opposition to the terror movement's attacks on Shiite civilians. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
One of the most interesting things about Joe the Plumber, currently enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, is that he has an unpaid judgment against him from St. Charles Mercy Hospital for about $1200. http://tinyurl.com/6gqpz8 I find it interesting that a pretty healthy guy (he works full time as a plumber, even if hes not licensed) and an ambitious one too (he wants to buy a business that makes $250,000, though its not clear if thats gross or net) has such a bill. Does he have health insurance? If so, for what does he owe this prodigious amount? If not, what care might he have possibly purchased that cost ONLY $1200? On Nov 7, 2008, at 7:18 PM, sharon_b283 wrote: Joe The Plumber, was a Welfare Queen! Colmes of Faux News questioned him and he said yes, I used the system, but didn't abuse it! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Fu5hwy3JyIM Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think you are smarter, than run for governor. Let's see how far you can get. It's very easy to call people you don't like names, however, it's a lot classier to admit what they have accomplished and just move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
He didn't just ask a candidate a question. Are you really going to pretend to be that naïve to cover for another Right Wing hypocrite? Go ahead. Fool yourself, if you must. He was a plant. A set up. A stooge. A clacker. An operative. Everyone knows it now, so you can just stop with the charade. It's looking very, very pathetic, desperate and insulting to the other members of this board. On Nov 7, 2008, at 10:20 PM, justifiedright wrote: What amazes me is that you know about his credit report at all. The man asked a candidate a question. Don't any every to that again. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the most interesting things about Joe the Plumber, currently enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, is that he has an unpaid judgment against him from St. Charles Mercy Hospital for about $1200. http://tinyurl.com/6gqpz8 I find it interesting that a pretty healthy guy (he works full time as a plumber, even if he's not licensed) and an ambitious one too (he wants to buy a business that makes $250,000, though it's not clear if that's gross or net) has such a bill. Does he have health insurance? If so, for what does he owe this prodigious amount? If not, what care might he have possibly purchased that cost ONLY $1200? On Nov 7, 2008, at 7:18 PM, sharon_b283 wrote: Joe The Plumber, was a Welfare Queen! Colmes of Faux News questioned him and he said yes, I used the system, but didn't abuse it! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Fu5hwy3JyIM Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 mark07712@ wrote: If you think you are smarter, than run for governor. Let's see how far you can get. It's very easy to call people you don't like names, however, it's a lot classier to admit what they have accomplished and just move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
Yeah. Racism is hysterical. Ha. Ha. On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Rock Musician wrote: Well first ting Obama be doin, be intraduecin Ghettonomicsto merica. Plan be dis 1) learn how to fist... man you aint noin where the mans hand was bifore you be shackin it so fist it. 2) Tax everybody .. ya know i be here now so fuc~ everybody just tax da shit outta anyone workin. 3) give the money to my illegal aunt an her friends. 4) get da rest of da money to my terrorist budies. 5) get the terrorists the locations of all merican nuc weapons sites. 6) dis arm Mericans, to make a takeover easyier. 7) teach any hard worker to bend over and give his or her backdoor away to anyone i say. 8) start advertizin for da new Merican language. somin like dis ... And you to can learn to read my new plan for Merica. Just send check or money order to Bamaphonics . unless you be on welfare den you get it for free das right free. Well, Can we joke around or its this going to offend someone. Really its only a kiddding lighten up fun. From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:23:11 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's ridiculous. From what I understand, that money is going to be used to improve healthcare, improve our energy independence and responsibility, fix our broken education systems and on and on. . Let's get back to Asbury Park related topics. money does not fix a broken education system (all the time) There. That's Asbury related. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Bye
Thanks to Bush On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:51 AM, Rock Musician wrote: They better open ... come the new year they will be outta business. From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:26:44 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Bye Don't leave now the new Outlet stores open next week. --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [AsburyPark] Bye To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 3:40 PM After the past week or so on this list, I don't think we need to spend any more of our liberal, tolerant, interracial tourist money in AP. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Bruce Raises Money For Troops
What a horrible network. On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:20 AM, justifiedright wrote: What a great guy! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,447745,00.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] World View Of America Rising Already
Love the Hiding of The Fox Link Trick. Sorry. I refuse to believe FOX Noise printed the best article on any subject, especially a political one. They are now more irrelevant than ever. On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:39 PM, justifiedright wrote: Really great article on what people around the world are saying. Best column I've read post-election. http://tinyurl.com/56l5dh [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Is Africa a country or a continent? Who are the NAFTA signatories? Palin doesn't know and doesn't care. On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, sharon_b283 wrote: John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw her go rouge, lavender and beige. It didn't help. She's an empty suit dress. On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:12 PM, justifiedright wrote: I have to agree Dan. What was attracting people to Obama was a positive message of hope (leave aside that no one knows how that translates to policy). Hope was carrying the day. I thought right away to combat hope with negativity was the wrong way to go. It was also contrary to what has worked for McCain over the years. I'd give anything to switch careers and go in to political consulting. McCain needed to craft his own hopeful message with a bit of policy sprinkled in. Not that I would have ignored the Ayers issue. Ayers did the same thing Bin Laden did. You just couldn't win with that as priority one at this moment in time. Were it November 4, 2002, 2003 or 2004 perhaps. Once the Market crashed on September 15 McCain needed to talk about nothing but money. Whomever is punching Palin in the nose today from the McCain camp should never be hired again. Even if anything they said was true, you take that sort of thing to the grave. You never turn on the guy you were working for. I don't think anything they are saying about Palin is true anyway. It was clear in every speech she was on the message they put her on. I saw her go rouge once when she disagreed about the Michigan pullout. She was right. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: We don't loathe them! They're both Dumb and Dumber! She IS a pig wearing lipstick and he's just a PIG! Palin is a woman. Somehow, she made it to the top. Somehow, she can't be a total idiot. I don't think she is an idiot at all. I think she is cunning and a tough politician. I disagree with her politics and personal choices of how she campaigns. She is certainly getting the short end of the stick from the McCain campaign. He chose her but they are now blaming her for their loss. It was McCain's campaign to lose and he did. But my problem with her and McCain is the negative tone of their campaign. Each of us makes a personal choice. Theirs was to listen to the Rove and Bush people that parchuted into their campaign. They are out again and don't give two hoots about Palin or McCain. even hear that it was Palin's own idea to go after the AYers thing. Shame on them all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Testing Him Already
Thanks George and Condi! Great Legacy! Great Work! On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:52 PM, justifiedright wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5kkjnc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Amazing Grace
Being locked in a box by Religious Right Wing Zealots and NeoCon Fascists. Didn't you know? Who was that cool guy who gave the concession speech and where has he been throughout the election? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
